This Electric Semi is a Million-Dollar Idea! Edison Motors at Fully Charged LIVE Canada

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  • Sandy meets the team from Edison Motors to discuss the specs and development process for their electric logging truck.
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  • @burgers8
    @burgers8 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +608

    Chace is the perfect example of a humble Canadian who is whip-smart with deep knowledge in his particular field. No flash, all function.

    • @petermclennan6781
      @petermclennan6781 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Totally. No bullshit, just openness and honesty. I hope they get filthy rich.

    • @MichaelHBallard
      @MichaelHBallard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed!!@@petermclennan6781

    • @strengthaxlesystem
      @strengthaxlesystem 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      he's no terdreau that's for sure

    • @ForTheBirbs
      @ForTheBirbs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Not wrong. His emotional reaction to Sandy's praise says it all

    • @vaibhavdlv
      @vaibhavdlv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yeah, guy talks the trade, does not spear warm air, is humble on his legs. Much respect!

  • @JustinBarkewich
    @JustinBarkewich 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +569

    As an Older trucker, I love the nostalgia mixed with modern technology, I hope Edison does well in Canada and the U.S. Market.

    • @TeamBehrens
      @TeamBehrens 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      They have a great TH-cam channel. Walks u through the whole project

    • @BDZ559
      @BDZ559 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Me to!!!!! 🎉

    • @jaydenrodger117
      @jaydenrodger117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly the best advertising they could do is get a bunk for the bitch bring it to a nasty block and get it loaded right up with logs and record everything, battery and fuel usage

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You know they will. They've already guaranteed that they will make sure to never over-supply the market.

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      As a modern hotrodder
      This is literally a restomod truck taken to its logical conclusion

  • @Gundog55
    @Gundog55 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +297

    I got a kick out of how he reacted to Sandy’s stamp of approval. He was happy as could be as well he should of been.

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      I was so stunned, words can’t describe how honoured I was that Sandy Munro liked what we did

    • @Gundog55
      @Gundog55 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@EdisonMotors It showed! You guys should be very proud of your efforts! We need more industry that uses your “Keep it simple” attitude.

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@EdisonMotorsyou guys rock! Very nice presentation and I love the attention to detail and the design philosophies with the cat generator, cable wraps as west indicators, switch costs, etc.

  • @turbokadett
    @turbokadett 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    Fantastic! So refreshing to see a company with a mindset of "In the unlikely event this part breaks, you can replace it for a couple of bucks and two screws". It's an attitude that fleet operators want but so rarely get from OEMs. I wish Edison Motors the very best, products like this deserve to succeed.

    • @0783155
      @0783155 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I wish they would get that at management level. I hear and see the exact same through my job but before you get the mindset of a big OEM changed years go by. And then you speak with the Purchasing dept. again and need to save again on every damn bolt or make a proper plan on why they need to be so strong. Aaargh. It's an endless loop.
      I also started as a young aspiring engineer but 15 years of HD vehicle quality & test engineering later I am just like the rest of them...

    • @freemandryden2275
      @freemandryden2275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and being s*****d by «consultant» pirate friends-of-the-Government and shameless colluding politicians!

  • @geogmz8277
    @geogmz8277 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    This is a more practical use of electrification than what most companies are doing... And makes all the sense of the world in his application.

    • @Tron-Jockey
      @Tron-Jockey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They're using LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate) batteries which have less energy than more typical ternary Li-ion like NCA and NMC (NCA and NMC employ nickel and cobalt which can have significant environmental, humanitarian and safety issues). LFP avoids all these issues and offers 2x to 3x the life of NCA and NMC. The only drawback to LFP is about 35% less energy storage capability. However, the newest version (due to start manufacture in 2024) is LMFP which adds manganese to the cathode. LMFP offers a substantial increase in energy density over standard LFP. LMFP has a gravimetric energy density of 240 Wh/kg and a volumetric energy density of 525 Wh/l which are close to NCA and NMC. They can also last up to 4000 full charge cycles (NMC and NCA are typically good for only 1500 charge cycles).LMFP could allow Edison to offer a version of this truck with battery only or give the existing truck about 30% more range.

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@Tron-Jockey edison could actually offer a very functional all electric version of this already, they would have competitive range at lower speeds compared to the rest of the market. Being that this truck is designed for almost exclusively offroad use, that low speed thing isn't a detriment. If they take full advantage of the electric semi weight break in the U.S. it's even better.

    • @frenchonion4595
      @frenchonion4595 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@admiral_peck7834 The issue with all electric is the battery weight reducing load weight. With hybrid, the battery can be much smaller

    • @morosis82
      @morosis82 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@frenchonion4595the Cat generator doesn't weigh nothing. If you can get the range you need out of the equivalent extra weight in batteries then you'd be better off with that.
      The great part is I reckon these guys will have it modular so you can either slot in the generator, or the extra batteries, depending upon your use case.

    • @dukeleather
      @dukeleather 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're missing the biggest point. You don't need to plug this thing in. You don't need a grid system to accommodate charging. The generator is constantly topping up your batteries so extra batteries just aren't needed. @@morosis82

  • @nooneyouknow7036
    @nooneyouknow7036 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +195

    I love the mindset behind this truck. Today's trucks have so many parts made of plastic. They have been designed to save the manufacturer costs and time during assembly. That's good for them, but you're stuck with a cheaply built truck that costs you more than the manufacturer saved in both expense and time. The CEO here gets it, he was a trucker before he was a truck builder. I feel confident that he will succeed. The only reason truckers buy today's truck is because there isn't any other choice.

    • @1südtiroltechnik
      @1südtiroltechnik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Which parts do you mean?
      On the outside sure, Metal is often better but on the inside it is not necessery since what Forces has it to take?

    • @nooneyouknow7036
      @nooneyouknow7036 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      @@1südtiroltechnik I have owned trucks going back to 1979. Trucks inside and out from that era were made to last and be easy and inexpensive to repair. Go back and listen to the exchange surrounding the dimmer switch. The CEO was trying to explain his logical choice to Sandy, and Sandy was worried about dirty boots. Mount a boot brush to the step... problem solved. Sandy is an engineer and I value his expertise, but his POV, his business is advising large OEMs on how to make things cheaper, easier, and faster. The CEO mentioned plastic air lines. OEMs like plastic air lines because they can be used together with quick connect fittings and save 15 mins on the assembly line. Quick connect fittings will begin to leak before the truck expires. There are probably 100 of these fittings on a truck, many that are impossible to get to without disassembling components to get at them. An air leak anywhere on the truck can have you put "out-of-service" on the side of the road and the truck either has to be towed or repaired right there before the truck is allowed to be moved. These fittings are an ongoing headache for truck owners. Many hours and much expense to maintain them. 15 mins to the good of the OEM...15 years of grief and expense for the truck owner. Modern trucks are increasingly built with proprietary vital parts instead of the off-the-shelf parts of yesterday. If you're operating in a remote location or you break down in one, you won't find these parts at the closest truck parts distributor and you will, like the OEM explained will be multiple times more expensive and you will most likely have to wait days and pay expediting fees to get the part shipped to you...why, because it somehow benefits the OEM, either faster assembly or more profits from parts sales. Truck cabs take a beating because the suspension has to be designed to handle heavy loads. Truck cabs sit over a solid front axle that usually have stacked leaf springs. That is not going to be a plush ride! Plastic interior parts: plastic HVAC ducting and actuators, plastic dashboards, plastic gauges rattle and break down before the truck expires... again, proprietary, over-priced replacement parts. Unless you have experienced what I'm describing, you may find it hard to get your mind around. This CEO understands! Truck owners understand. OEMs are too busy looking to barely out-do each other while extracting as much as possible from their customers.

    • @i-love-comountains3850
      @i-love-comountains3850 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@nooneyouknow7036
      I love that Chace and company specifically mentioned that they want to build the truck using parts that are available at any truck shop, repair shop, farm eqx shop, or local auto parts store. Absolutely phenomenal planning. These guys are gonna blow the heavy vocational market clean out of the water!

    • @jacobmotes7497
      @jacobmotes7497 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@Luca-gj4yi plastic air lines for one. In my short 2 years trucking, I was out of commission and missing loads because a stupid air line had a hole rubbed in it 4 or 5 times.

    • @bent1208
      @bent1208 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@nooneyouknow7036heck, based on what you’re saying, these guys could make a diesel truck just the same and probably sell out just because of how it’s built.

  • @Xsiondu
    @Xsiondu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    HOLY SMOKES SANDY MUNRO SAID THE EDISON TRUCK WAS THE BEST THING HE SAW AT THE SHOW!!! So proud of those guys.

  • @oldretireddude
    @oldretireddude 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +336

    Wonderful video. So happy to see the fruits of Edison's hard work recognized by people whose opinions matter.

    • @Tron-Jockey
      @Tron-Jockey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True but Edison worked with DC and DC motors. Edison's nemesis, Nikola Tesla, invented the 3-phase AC motor technology that modern EV's use.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Tron-Jockey the comment obviously refers to the work of Edison Motors, not Thomas Edison.
      The "Edison" name for the company is basically a bad joke intended as a shot at Tesla (the car company, not the person), and unrelated to the technology used in the truck. They may eventually regret it; for now it's just slightly amusing and the source of some confusion.

  • @tianjohan4633
    @tianjohan4633 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +233

    What a humble CEO. I wish them a bright future.

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup. So much BS and hot air from the Silicon Valley/Vulture capitalists. I wish them Edison the best.

  • @mikepetersen5024
    @mikepetersen5024 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    Sandy should go up and drive with an Edison Truck and film it. That would make a good adventure video.

    • @ElDJReturn
      @ElDJReturn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I'd love to see that happen! I feel like Sandy wanted to drive it off right there!

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "An Edison truck"? There's only one; they're standing in front of it, and it is not ready for anyone else to drive.

    • @Digital-Dan
      @Digital-Dan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@brianb-p6586 To be more generous, quoting the Tesla point of view (Elon's, not Nikola's), "Prototypes are easy; production is hard." One hopes they can manufacture these for an adequate profit.

    • @bbeen40
      @bbeen40 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@brianb-p6586That's Topsy, their SECOND truck.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @bbeen40 Edison has only built one truck. Before this prototype (which they call "Topsy"), they converted an old truck (which they call "Carl"). They didn't build Carl - it's a Kenworth. And Carl isn't a functional truck, because the powertrain components can't handle real work. Carl is a conversion project using parts salvaged from a Tesla car, like many other other hobbyist projects; while Edison Motors calls it a "concept truck", it is not an Edison truck, and not a prototype of their design.

  • @patreekotime4578
    @patreekotime4578 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    This guy has real know-how. Love that they put real hoses on the hydraulics. Steel switch gear. The wigwag. The Westinghouse brake cracked me up. This is how heavy duty stuff should be.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Hydraulics always have "real hoses". The excessively stiff and heavy hoses that Chace pointed out are being used for air, for which relatively flimsy tubing is often used.

    • @RENO_K
      @RENO_K 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@brianb-p6586yeah if a hydraulic line bursts it'll be a bad bad day

  • @loaffloaff
    @loaffloaff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    So cool to see subject matter experts electrifying niche markets to find a win-win scenario.

  • @ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt
    @ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    If the Edison Motors truck was one of the best things Sandy saw at _Fully Charged Live Canada,_ I can confirm that this interview was the highlight of the show for Chace and the entire Edison team. Thanks so much to Sandy, Rob and Grace for this wonderful interview and video. We look forward staying touch as the company progresses from prototype debut to initial production and beyond.

  • @CoastalAutoReactionCAR
    @CoastalAutoReactionCAR 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    It was an absolute honour to be invited to help finish this project. Looking forward to the next big innovation we are working on!

  • @jamesengland7461
    @jamesengland7461 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    These guys know the truck engineering with an old- school depth that really impresses me.

  • @TKevinBlanc
    @TKevinBlanc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Love how Chace quoted him in metric tons, rounded it off to pounds, and Sandy recalculated it to imperial tons.

  • @impc8347
    @impc8347 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    I am super impressed with how Chase is so young but so knowledgeable about everything trucking and now everything about making hybrid electric trucks. Congrats to the Canadian team.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Knowledgeable about trucking logs, yes, but "everything about making hybrid electric trucks"? 🤣

    • @basstrammel1322
      @basstrammel1322 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@brianb-p6586 He has a university education, I don't remember quite in what field, but somewhat relatable. Anyways, his co-founder Eric is the expert on making the trucks hybrid.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @basstrammel1322 Chace apparently has a degree in economics. Eric seems like a nice guy, and arranges solar power installations, but doesn't know anything about hybrid trucks; his video about their truck is cringeworthy.

    • @basstrammel1322
      @basstrammel1322 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianb-p6586 I just took it from their site.
      "He has become a respected industry leading expert on solar, batteries and hybrid power generation and was able to help apply those idea’s into the chassis of a semi truck."

  • @ElDJReturn
    @ElDJReturn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    That's a damn fine truck. Even more impressive they built it in 6 months.

  • @simonthebroken9691
    @simonthebroken9691 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thank you for showing Edison off. I love this idea. I drive for our heavy industrial building crew. I want this truck. Soo sick of being the slowest thing on the road, tired of shifting as well. It takes me four shifts to get thru a typical intersection, doing 10 mph, max. Looking forward to the peace & quiet. Can't get here soon enough.

  • @foreverinteriors
    @foreverinteriors 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I don't think I have ever seen an interview with two more honest-sounding guys. Bravo!!

  • @ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt
    @ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    4:15 - (Clarification) Topsy's batteries are LiFePO4 (lithium iron phosphate). This chemistry is widely considered among the safest, while maintaining high specific energy and affording fast recharge times.
    The 1912 Detroit Electric coach uses a Nickel-Iron chemistry with a potassium chloride electrolyte.

  • @OweEyeSea
    @OweEyeSea 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thoroughly enjoyed how down to earth this guy is. Wish I had a need for a logging truck so I could give him some business.

  • @EnerGeezerSquirrel
    @EnerGeezerSquirrel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    A rubber / silicon cup over the hi-beam switch would cost little to implement and could be slipped on - off more quickly than swapping out the switch even if only held by 2 bolts. (plus wiring contacts) Keeps gunk out, is flexible, adds slip-resistance to the button, and can be made of a coloured substance to make it "day-glo" visible.
    As easy as putting on and taking off a condom! 😉

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      That’s a good idea! Thanks

    • @jonathanellis8737
      @jonathanellis8737 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That is probably cheaper than fabricating a simple lever and moving the switch further back near the fire wall. Keeps the switch easier to reach for replacement as well

    • @Agnemons
      @Agnemons 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The problem with that is you usually take off a condom AFTER you have been screwed
      If you take it off before hand then you are doubly screwed.

    • @DavidHalko
      @DavidHalko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@EdisonMotors- you can probably put an old school dash mounted toggle switch in parallel with the on-floor high beam switch… so a broken floor switch can still be bypassed until the shift is over, from a safety perspective

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@DavidHalko And then wire them like two-way switches so that you don't need to remember which one you had on.

  • @themisterchristie
    @themisterchristie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I've been following Edison Motors since January 2022 and am very impressed with how far they have come in such a short time. Nice to see someone designing a truck for the industries where reliability and serviceability are more important than sleek looks. This also would be an impressive truck on the highway.

    • @charleswillcock3235
      @charleswillcock3235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Good to see a product without built in obsolescence.

    • @themisterchristie
      @themisterchristie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@charleswillcock3235 yeah, that's one of Chace's big things, no planned obsolescence. He managed to keep from going on a rant about that.

    • @martinhicks6020
      @martinhicks6020 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      One thing that Sandy didn't ask about was the cost savings on brake wear because of regenerative deceleration. Could be considerable in reducing downtown and parts.

    • @themisterchristie
      @themisterchristie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@martinhicks6020 he did mention it, sort of, when he talked about the regen braking and how he rarely uses the brakes in the Lightning. Implied, more like.
      @ 3:39 and 17:28 he implies the savings on brakes

    • @martinhicks6020
      @martinhicks6020 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree that the advantage of regenerative braking was discussed with regard to fuel savings, but I was hoping for more indication of actual cost savings from reductions in downtime and parts over the life of the vehicle.

  • @WestCoastWheelman
    @WestCoastWheelman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    "The cheapest part of buying a truck is buying a truck"
    Sandy pls tell this to every boss I've ever had

  • @nelsondoan8271
    @nelsondoan8271 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Incredible! Designed and built by extremely talented users!!!!!
    As long as they keep out HR, MBA’s, and the type of engineer that slaps everything in so you can close the hood with no consideration for the guy who owns and maintains…they should have a bright future!!!!!

    • @MarkRose1337
      @MarkRose1337 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      They could have made the hood lower by dropping the generator into the frame rails, but decided to keep it higher to make it easier to service. They've had a lot of input from mechanics.

    • @Xsiondu
      @Xsiondu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Every decision was made to keep operating cost and maintenance low. From the top to bottom everything was purchased at the local parts shop that could be. Even the power control system is essentially standard off the shelf inverters, converters, and switching gear.

    • @kevinmccubbin2385
      @kevinmccubbin2385 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      These boys definitely do not want 'HR' ...😂

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarkRose1337I hope the regeneration absorb enough under massive loads since there’s no Jake Brake.

    • @MarkRose1337
      @MarkRose1337 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TamagoHead It can hold back more than a Jake brake

  • @canosouped
    @canosouped 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Couldn’t be more proud of these boys and this truck build. What they did inside of a year puts every other manufacturer to shame.

  • @andrewradford3953
    @andrewradford3953 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Wow! A prototype built in 6 months, and built really well. Even at 25% more cost than a standard truck, saving $120,000 a year in fuel, soon wipes that out and puts money in the bank.

    • @morosis82
      @morosis82 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      That's just fuel too. Sounds like this thing will stay in service longer and have less downtime and less to maintain.

    • @everettwalker9141
      @everettwalker9141 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These electric vehicles talk about how much money they save on fuel but dont ever say how much they spend on electricity.

    • @morosis82
      @morosis82 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@everettwalker9141 that saving is generally inclusive of electricity.
      The Tesla Semi that PepsiCo have been running apparently does about 1.7kWh per mile, so assuming electricity is 0.20/kWh (California) that would be $340/1000 miles. A similar diesel truck uses about 7.25mpg, at $6.40/gal (again in Cali) for a cost of $885/1000 miles. See
      So if you put 100k miles a year on the vehicle that's about $54,500 a year just in fuel savings, for a semi operating in California.
      In BC where these guys operate it's $2/litre and 0.12/kWh I believe, so that would be $1015 of diesel vs $205 in electricity. That's about $80k per 100k miles savings.
      These logging trucks would have a much different duty cycle though, would be interesting to see how much electricity they use given that EVs typically perform even better at low speeds.

    • @andrewradford3953
      @andrewradford3953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@everettwalker9141 $4.50/100km

    • @dalel3608
      @dalel3608 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@morosis82 Especially with the near extinction of purpose built "off road trucks", everything now is just a highway truck with a lift kit, easily broken junk.

  • @ShaneShepherd
    @ShaneShepherd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    That just looks AWESOME! If I were a loving company owner I'd be calling to get my name on the list for my next order! Love the blend of the new and the old. Also,love the attention to detail regarding reduction of maintenance issues, ease of repair, and the old style quality components.

  • @barryamorris
    @barryamorris 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Making trucks that last the test of time is a rare thing these days.

  • @davefenton102
    @davefenton102 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I stumbled across Edison Motors youtube channel when they were in the early stages of building Topsy. It has been truly great to watch it develope and become a reality, and be done in time for their deadline of presenting it at this show.
    Great work indeed, I hope you are all ridiculously proud of your achievements.

  • @themonsterunderyourbed9408
    @themonsterunderyourbed9408 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    "Hmmm... who is the opposite of Tesla that's involved with electricity? EDISON!!"
    *Edison motors is born*

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, that's the origin of the name. It is at least as stupid as all of the names used by people who have no right to use the name: Tesla, Nikola, Edison..,

    • @themonsterunderyourbed9408
      @themonsterunderyourbed9408 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@brianb-p6586 Faraday future.

  • @men2dewy
    @men2dewy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I would say they put more thought into the design details than what is found on many mass produced vehicles.

    • @bmad1386
      @bmad1386 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mass produced vehicles right now are literally just copy cats of each other, where more and more of the vehicle is made from the cheapest possible materials.

  • @__--JY-Moe--__
    @__--JY-Moe--__ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    nice ride! sound like a new generation power wagon! reminds me of Mack way back when.. good luck Team!
    my Grampah loved logging! the inside looks super👍nice presentation, congrats!

  • @anthonyhall9453
    @anthonyhall9453 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Munro Live please revisit Edison Motors and take it for a logging drive in the mountains of BC. Would love to hear Sandy's assesment after experiencing it in performing its intended purpose.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Look for that next year, perhaps.

  • @joebullwinkle5099
    @joebullwinkle5099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Absolutely fantastic to see a vehicle like this being designed and manufactured back in North America, not - You know where!

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ditto. India penalized electric scooters/moped makers who abused tax incentives by using sub assemblies from we know where.

  • @robbieward7026
    @robbieward7026 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've been following Edison Motors for over a year now on social media. In a world where greed tends to be the norm, It's been so inspiring to see this project go from developing the concept to into finishing the production prototype the way this has.
    It's so common to see someone start a project for noble reasons, just to see them abandon their vision and morals just a quickly because an opportunity for a quicker pay day presented itself. I have no doubt that dozens of those opportunities presented itself in the time it took to get this truck from It's consception, all the way to this EV show but his words, ethics and vision has stayed rock solid.
    The only thing that makes me sad is that I'm too poor to monetarily contribute to it's continued development and success.

  • @davidkendall2272
    @davidkendall2272 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Excellent episode and well worth the viewing IMHO. I wish Edison well and hope they sell a ton of trucks!

  • @southport3399
    @southport3399 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Another awesome, inspirational story from the Munro Live team! Congrats to Chase & team for taking on the risks & challenge of providing an innovative solution for a niche industry that the existing big players have no motivation to provide. Clearly no MBA mindset engaged here 😁 - the "design by truckers for truckers" is evident with their robust design decisions for addressing the costly downtime scenarios that poor quality/failure prone design decisions made by the big players who place a higher importance on the value of the revenue stream that service & spare parts provides. I wish Chase & the Edison Motors every success for their future!

  • @canadianthought
    @canadianthought 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    These guys put their blood sweat and years into this. And they brought a squirrel with them lol. You can't make this stuff up - love the Edison crew.

    • @jonathanellis8737
      @jonathanellis8737 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That made me laugh so much. It's chipmunk approved.😆

    • @catsaregovernmentspies
      @catsaregovernmentspies 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chase almost broke his arm putting an axle in. Talk about a hands-on CEO.

  • @DS-zs4ge
    @DS-zs4ge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Great video, great truck!
    Have a look at the Edumper (also called Emining): a 100 tons heavy duty offroad dump truck, rebuilt Komatsu. Going fully loaded downhill the quarry, it produces more electricity than it consumes returning uphill empty. It's pure electric, no combustion engine. During the night some of the excess electricity stored during the day in the battery is discharged to the power grid.

    • @jonathanellis8737
      @jonathanellis8737 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That is peak efficiency some of the loggers might get there.

  • @mglmouser
    @mglmouser 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Heavy mining industries have been doing this for a couple of years now. With ginormous ben loaders, they go up mountains, load up and regenerate going down. These vehicles save on brakes and engine maintenance as well as never have to recharge them/ It’s brilliant. Applying this to the logging industry is just a no-brainer. 😊

  • @draco_2727
    @draco_2727 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This guy put a smile on my face, he was very proud of what he and the team built because it is functional and will last. It was meant to make the driver happy and the company by extension.

  • @capnkirk5528
    @capnkirk5528 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    For those of you new to Edison, don't be fooled by Chace ... he has run his own business and is university-educated in (I believe) economics. Edison - stealing Tesla's ideas - makes MORE than just the truck and have a good business in solar light towers and other solar power solutions. This is a different startup approach than a Tech approach, here's hoping that they are successful. There is a massive market opportunity and these guys DO know what they're doing.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chace shows zero educational background or professional qualifications in his LinkedIn profile... only his experience as owner of SEI Logistics (the solar trailer company) and CEO of Edison Motors. Any rational professional lists relevant background in their LinkedIn profile. There was a mention in one video that he has a university degree... in history. I don't think there is anyone in the company with technical qualifications; Eric has some qualifications in investment services.
      I'm not criticizing Chace for a lack of education or technical qualifications. He doesn't claim them and others shouldn't claim them for him.

    • @MarkRose1337
      @MarkRose1337 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chace got a Bachelor of Arts with a major in economics from Thompson Rivers University.

    • @samjubilee6593
      @samjubilee6593 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@brianb-p6586Chace and his business partner bought their 1st logging truck (it was sitting in a field, if I recall correctly) for $4000. Overhauled and rebuilt it; ran it for years. Made $$ and bought more trucks.
      Point being, they certainly learned a lot repairing that 1st logging truck, and have only gotten more knowledge and experience since then. (Chace also drove logging trucks before they owned that 1st truck.)
      If Elon Musk does not care about education as much as problem solving ability...
      Also: R G LeTourneau started out as a construction contractor. He kept building his own equipment because he came up with better designs than what he could afford to buy, so he built his own. He never went past 8th grade, but was a naturally skilled designer/builder, and was a legendary crazy hard worker. Reading his book "Mover of Men and Mountains", he said he had a hard time figuring out if he was a construction contractor or a heavy equipment manufacturer.

  • @barryfastcars25
    @barryfastcars25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This concept is absolutely the future of trucking. Huge power and torque, single gear, and a diesel generator running at peak efficiency keeping the batteries topped up. This needs to be made for overland trucking!!

    • @donswier
      @donswier 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👍On a MUCH smaller scale, our i3 REx (94k miles, trouble-free) has me convinced that series hybrid is perfect for this application, too.

  • @jamesmedlar8760
    @jamesmedlar8760 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m so glad you mentioned Nikola Tesla when talking about the Westinghouse air brake pedal. Good for you Monroe, you’re a good man.

  • @barryamorris
    @barryamorris 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope Munro and associates tie up with Edison to help build a truly remarkable truck for the 21st century. Both simple in design and build, and loved by truckers alike.

  • @claudenormandeau9211
    @claudenormandeau9211 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I hope Chase Barber realizes just how big of an endorsement he received from Sandy Munro. Well deserved Chase. looking forward to seeing more of your products.

  • @SmokeyBear464
    @SmokeyBear464 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It seems like these guys really know their stuff and wanna build something that’ll last a long time. That’s super refreshing to see in a company. If they ever build a smaller truck I’ll be buying one!

    • @keithmills778
      @keithmills778 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're working on a retrofit hybrid system for pickup trucks.

  • @VedaSay
    @VedaSay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That's an excellent effort! The right technology deployed to the right place. Huge respect for the Edison Motors team for the efforts.

  • @gotthumbs2235
    @gotthumbs2235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not sure if this was answered by an earlier comment but an Electric Front Drive axel is an option as well as a triple rear axels. With Chases trucks, they are typically custom spec-ed by the buyer.
    Also, another idea Chase has is putting electric drive axels on the trailer to help with steep grades/muddy roads/snow traction as well as added regen-motors for the batteries.
    Another flexible option is for generator motors that use different fuels if they wanted something other than a diesel engine. Propane, Gas, Hydrogen Fuel Cell, etc.
    A lot of these things have been discussed on the Edison YT Channel during the build process.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no driven front axle option because there no product yet. They have talked about a driven front axle, but haven't built a prototype of a truck with one yet, and haven't allowed for one in the design.
      There is no "typical" buying process for something that no one has been able to purchase yet.
      The idea of driven trailer axles, or even specifically electrically driven trailer axles, is not new. Edison people have talked about it, but have not done anything about it. That's true of alternative engine and fuel types, and various other ideas... they're just obvious ideas, not part of the reality of this truck or company.

  • @brokenmarbles5264
    @brokenmarbles5264 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Been following these guys since day one, common sense build that we can wrench on💪❤️

  • @eugeneputin1858
    @eugeneputin1858 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    That regen idea is actually killer, of course if youre leaving from a higher point to a lower point every single time. Could charge up batteries up every single time.

    • @danmoyer4650
      @danmoyer4650 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's like when I had to walk to school. Up-hill both ways.

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    🙋‍♂️THANKS SANDY,CHACE ,NIGEL AND ALL THE MUNRO TEAM , FOR SHARING THIS INTERESTING STORY 🧐💚💚💚

  • @jarrodvsinclair
    @jarrodvsinclair 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I wounder what the cross over is between munro live and Edison motors viewers. I am betting its pretty high. I have been following bith for year and am super excited to see this. Cause wait until Edison has a proper factory and can have sandy out again

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I follow the Edison Motors channel (and many of the people here should too) and I'm here, so the answer is at least one.

  • @wild_lee_coyote
    @wild_lee_coyote 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Everyone seems to think tucking is only the semis you see driving down the road. And when you hear about electric trucks you think of a larger version of an electric car. There is a whole separate industry that is about heavy hauling. Where as Tesla is looking at all electric, aerodynamic, short range bespoke rig that will have to be replaced in 10 years, Edison is designing a truck that will last 3 score or more years (that’s 60 years for those who’s don’t want to convert in your head). The Edison truck is flexible, rugged, and repairable. Right to repair for Edison motors means a fault code has plain English on the problem and part numbers if a replacement is needed, without ever leaving the cab of the truck. Don’t need a diesel, swap out the generator for a LMP or hydrogen powered one, add a fuel cell, or just add more batteries for all electric. Old school reliability and longevity coupled with modern technology and unbeatable torque and power of an electric axle. Edison is going to change the trucking industry the same way diesel electric trains replaced steam locomotives.

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I saw a show about a huge electric dump truck used in mining at the top of a mountain and it was also getting enough regen going down to charge the battery. Great application when you can use gravity as a fuel.

    • @snookmeister55
      @snookmeister55 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tesla Semi has a third motor for additional regen. The energy used going uphill is replaced during regenerative braking downhill.

  • @lanwickum
    @lanwickum 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What they did in 6 months under a fabric shed says something in itself about their company and understanding of the product.

  • @indyjons321
    @indyjons321 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't think I've ever wanted to see a company succeed more in my life, than Edison Motors.

  • @Sampuranfish7
    @Sampuranfish7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome to see the innovation coming from guys who actually work for a living.

  • @craigruchman7007
    @craigruchman7007 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It’s a game changer when you go up the mountain with no load and then use the mass of the logs to change the batteries on the way down.

  • @yorkchris10
    @yorkchris10 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The design made me think immediately of the Vancouver built Hayes logging trucks. There's bound to be some steam punk loggers in BC.

  • @berthogendoorn2133
    @berthogendoorn2133 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congrad's to Edison on a truck well done, my son who is a red seal mechanic loves to keep up on your tech, he has inherited some of my efficiency drive, now that I am on my 4th EV car! he keeps me updated on the Edison TH-cam channel!

  • @dsa420meh7
    @dsa420meh7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    having watched chase "Edison motors" on youtube since the beginning and even his funny tiktoks couple years back, it's amazing how fast this came to being a working concept. really shows how big Corp have too much red tape

  • @MikesTropicalTech
    @MikesTropicalTech 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    How did Sandy end up on an episode of Letterkenny? :^) Nice design and build.

    • @aslurmyfrog
      @aslurmyfrog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To be fair.... I had that same thought!

  • @wildweav
    @wildweav 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dang, now that thing is HEAVY DUTY!

  • @eoghanfla6343
    @eoghanfla6343 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope this company does really well. I am always drawn to the boxy look. I love the way he started by saying, I’m the CEO I guess, like he was embarrassed to have a corporate title. Well done guys, you’ve done an amazing job.

  • @Voidroamer
    @Voidroamer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the humbleness of this ceo is refreshing!

  • @ThePhilosophyOfNature
    @ThePhilosophyOfNature 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The idea is genius! I wish them luck.

  • @pierredelecto7069
    @pierredelecto7069 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The original trucks when he was talking about .8 liters per km converts to 3 miles per gallon.

  • @formytots0128
    @formytots0128 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks Sandy and the Edison team for this video. Designed from basic first principles concept and lessons learned from other trucks. Great job designing this truck. Another CEO like Elon and RJ who knows the details of their products. This will lead to a very successful company.

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Elon Musk is a hype man, not an engineer. He can sell the public and shareholders on a product, but he's shit at actually designing things. Where his companies (which have been legion) actually do well is where Elon steps back to leave his engineers to do the job he pays them for, instead of micromanaging. I don't get that vibe from Chace. He's much more down to earth instead of head-in-the-clouds like Musk.

  • @JSDudeca
    @JSDudeca 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Missed was the wear and the combustion efficiency of the diesel generator; because it’s decoupled from the drivetrain, it can work in optimal performance ranges giving lower pollution and longer lifetime. Also the swap out cost would be dramatically lower.

  • @jackcoats4146
    @jackcoats4146 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great to see some equipment most of us never see.

  • @sleekblackroadster
    @sleekblackroadster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seen these guys on my TH-cam shorts feed for a while. Looking good.

    • @SiisKolkytEuroo
      @SiisKolkytEuroo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can disable shorts with some apps or browser plugins

  • @JRs-Garage
    @JRs-Garage 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would love to see Sandy get a chance to drive that beast of a truck! And see how it compares to the other electric trucks he’s driven!!

  • @brianb-p6586
    @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    After the show, the guess of 25,000 to 26,000 pounds @10:30 was replaced by an actual weight of 12,580 kg or 27,730 lb. That means that the extra weight allowance (various values depending on jurisdiction) is appropriate.

  • @MikeCasey311
    @MikeCasey311 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sandy, this was one of your more interesting and informative videos. ❤

  • @johnlucas2037
    @johnlucas2037 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    This makes too much sense. If I was a logger I would buy this truck.

    • @pauldesi
      @pauldesi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      One point missed here is that this EV Truck design is much much much more realistic even for everyday trucking. Saves on fuel and saved on wear and tear of the diesel engine since in this application, the engine runs at a steady rpm as it is only used to recharge the battery. Unfortunately that was let well covered here.

  • @pcspecialistpdx
    @pcspecialistpdx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the late 70s and early 80s, I only had to walk out the door of my house to see logging and even did some on my own property. Really impressed with Edison Motors. If I were a truck driver, I'd want to be driving an Edison.

  • @timothypryor7952
    @timothypryor7952 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been following edison motors for a while, it's nice to see how other professionals see the project.

  • @-LightningRod-
    @-LightningRod- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    "It's pretty damn Good!"
    Sandy Munro, September 29, 2023

    • @Mr7O5
      @Mr7O5 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Money was made that day based on that statement

    • @-LightningRod-
      @-LightningRod- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Mr7O5
      i think MrMunro's opinion is solid gold friend.
      It was fascinating to me , to see MrMunro's process when evaluating Chase's truck, ..i felt like i could "hear" the gears change in Munro's head as he adjusted his advice to a 'fledgling" Company capable of building "Tens" and possibly "Hundreds" of trucks, when he listed to Chase describe some features.. MrMunro is a "MONSTER" when it comes to production in the Millions hired by Companies that make Billions.
      As i say it was fascinating to watch this ,.."Braintrust" switch gears.

  • @JohnSiler
    @JohnSiler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    GM really dropped the ball by killing Voltec. It was the absolute best of both worlds. This, is a supersized industrial version of Voltec. I love it!

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They're both hybrids, but other than that, no. The Voltec system is far more sophisticated than this straightforward series hybrid.

    • @JohnSiler
      @JohnSiler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brianb-p6586 Voltec was also series hybrid architecture. Motor under the hood was a generator powering an electric drive.

  • @christopheredginton6242
    @christopheredginton6242 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video Sandy. All credit to these guys and this amazing truck. Hope they sell loads of them.

  • @richardpoole2729
    @richardpoole2729 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was a lovely boost for Edison from Sandy Munro! Well done!

  • @Yahoo886
    @Yahoo886 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love the innovative thought these guys put into this truck….saving carbon fuel burn is awesome

  • @PhiTonics
    @PhiTonics 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    EV's and flannels baby!😂🙌

  • @williammthiyane1104
    @williammthiyane1104 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Apart from the impressive retro-modern aesthetics, this is the most transparent, logical and relevant way to infuse diesel and electric propulsion technology into vehicles whilst offering simplicity and value to the customer.
    Thank you

  • @max_power8510
    @max_power8510 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the kind of person I would invest in. You can tell his number one priority is to provide a quality and durable truck. I like how he went over the corrosion issues and wear issues when using alternate designed frames and plastic versus metal components. It will be a good world if we can have Tesla and Edison existing together again.

  • @johnodonnell5342
    @johnodonnell5342 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It wood powered! The weight of the wood is used to recharge the batteries. And at the end of the trip, you still have the wood.

    • @donswier
      @donswier 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everything is solar powered!
      - Sun makes trees grow
      - Sun creates wind energy
      - Sun fills dams with rain it causes
      - No sun, no oil! 🌞

  • @1944chevytruck
    @1944chevytruck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What an Awesome video.... those young Canadian men are Geniuses!

  • @bref5532
    @bref5532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never been a trucker, let alone a logging truck, but this was super interesting. Thanks.

  • @creativecraving
    @creativecraving 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a knowledgeable intervierer! I really enjoyed this. He gave Chase a great chance to show off his truck and dive deep into everything. This is the best look I've gotten into their concept.

  • @vancity2349
    @vancity2349 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very cool. Wishing you the best of success Edison! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @felipeperez9822
    @felipeperez9822 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Awesome work guys !

  • @Werdna12345
    @Werdna12345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:00 I’ve been following Edison motors in TH-cam for awhile it’s the first time I’ve heard of application of regening with a full load down the mountain. That makes it a no brainier

  • @Zeesneakyninja
    @Zeesneakyninja 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad to see sandy in this thing, I’ve been following this build for a while now.

  • @user-lo4er8wy9l
    @user-lo4er8wy9l 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like these guys, best of luck to them.

  • @CondoreComputing
    @CondoreComputing 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been following Edison for awhile so to see Sandy praise it is really cool.

  • @waitemc
    @waitemc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a truck+trailer mechanic for 25 years this is how Ive neen wanting to build a truck . Everthing is spec'ed perfectly. Keeping that power surge threw all the shifting, enginge rpm up down ect is were this will shine. Just the wear on the frame constantly twisting throughout 18 shifts and this one twists up 1 time till you hit road speeds . The gen set just runs a 1 rpm . Beautiful

  • @adog4180
    @adog4180 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Edison motors is building things like these were built back in the day. It is funny Edison motor builds a truck so you don’t have to replace the truck with a new one. The one truck to last after your kids have their kids.