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Here Is EXACTLY What It Takes to EV-Swap an Old Ford Truck & Turn It Into a Tesla: Chargezilla Ep.2
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- (www.legacyEV.com , www.101motors.com , www.ridefox.com) Here Is Exactly What It Takes to EV-Swap an Old Ford Truck & Turn It Into a Tesla: Chargezilla Ep.2
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Check out the www.LegacyEV.com website for more details. The battery cost is around $23,000 for 78+ kWh capacity Tesla packs. The two motors are about $10,000 together. The other components bring the total component price near $40,000.
I'd much rather have this EV conversion than the new ones made in factories today. Excellent build! Enjoy it!
That’s what I’m looking for!!! Thanks!!! Hopefully they can do it on my 2006 Dodge Ram 2500!!!
You would have been $$$$ ahead converting it to anything else, including a 3.5 PowerBoost.
using a 3.5 PowerBoost.... Would not be a TFL-EV conversion? Would it Einstein?
@@markjeepingful I'm hoping to be able to do that to a square body Chevy maybe my 94 but I think I would rather have a extended cab
At first I thought this was stupid, but now I want to do this to my '69 F100! I bet this thing drives 100% better with the new weight distribution and lower center of gravity, not to mention the new leafs and Fox shocks.
We have at least two more Chargezilla episodes coming soon.
It won't be cheap to convert.
Enjoy
@@TFLEV i assume there was a rubber insert placed in the fittings connecting the 2 motors. Can you show this?
Thanks
@@golfish8589 conversions never are.... and the price was posted in the comments...
I can only imagine this conversion cost a fortune, but it was really cool to see it done. Thanks for sharing some of the process with us.
$40,000
@@Boznaniacthats less than a new truck lmao
Half the price of a ugly Tesla! I'm sold 😂
One counterintuitive thing about EVs is that they are not more complicated than internal combustion vehicles. In fact they are drastically _simpler_ than ICE vehicles, especially in terms of moving parts: They typically have less than 1/10th as many parts, no pulleys, no alternators, no starter, very few hoses (just moderate temperature low pressure cooling hoses for the electrical components), no transmission (other than a single gear for forward and reverse)* and *significantly* less heat generated overall.^ That last one translates into more efficiency (more than double even the very best ICE engines) and more longevity for the under the hood components.
I hope to see a lot more of these types of conversions for classic cars and trucks in the coming years.
* Some EVs like the Porsche Taycan have a 2 speed transmission but this is rare.
^ You can generally drive an EV for over an hour, pop the hood and not have to worry about having your eyebrows blasted off your face.
Man, how tempting is it to buy a junk body and take it to these guys instead of buying a new vehicle
How much would you think that would run me? Reduce reuse and recycle right
I keep waiting for someone to buy one of the kit muscle cars like a Shelby or an old hot rod and use electric instead of an ICE.
Or, even better, think of the possibilities of using kit car bodies, or even real steel repro bodies of cool classic stuff, as opposed to the usual fiberglass.. Mated with something like a Chevy E-crate..? 😮 Seems almost limitless the kinda crazy stuff that one may be able to cook up, y'know..?
Let's not call these old bodies junk! Gold compared to the junk body of Tesla garbage. Cars today are so ugly it's ridiculous. Rivian and the Tesla truck are the stupidest things I've ever seen.
70 grand in parts plus labor ?. for a 150 mile range ? not cool in the slightest
Sorry yall get negative press on this. I appreciate the concept and information. I also appreciate bone stock restorations. It doesn't have to be one or the other in my book. Super cool. Thanks
When talking about the coupler, let's not miss the opportunity to say "Love Joy connector".
This is better than a dual motor Tesla since you can send all the torque to one axle from both motors with the transfer case, whereas the torque in the front motor on a Tesla can't be sent to the rear.
This is cool but very frustrating. You’re going through all this work and money, but you’re not blasting, repairing, and painting the frame, cab, or bed? It doesn’t make sense. It’s easy to do these things when everything is apart, and impossible once it’s put back together. This is crazy!
Stop being a hater, it's for sale, that's for the next person to do, or not, fine something else to complain about 😂
@@norrisabram9577 I’m not complaining. I’m commenting. Which is what the COMMENT SECTION is for.
This is a very cool build, in my humble opinion. I can't wait to see what it's capable of. Great video and thanks for doing this guys
Thank you for watching.
Yeah for sure. Talk about breathing new life into an old truck. Maybe someone can convince Tommy to electrify a Citroen 2CV
@@TFLEV I was hoping the motors and inverters were going to be liquid cooled like the batteries, very much looking forward to see how they do under load and hot weather! Super luv this content!!!
Capable of 85 miles before charging
@@mabelpup8502 yeah, it's just interesting to me to see where everything is at right now. It's kinda like a benchmark.
I just want to throw some kudos to the editors. BGM selection was on point and volume never felt intrusive. It took away nothing and, in some places, added everything. Good work guys, keep it up.
Interesting build. There are some EPS systems that could work in this truck.
The only thing I see that I would definitely change is that original single chamber master cylinder on the brakes. A split system is much safer.
Let us keep talking. I'm sure we can come up with another $40K worth of things you can do to it. 😄
Magnificent work guys. Wow. Definitely need to add A/C if you're gonna use it in the summer. Great work!!
So mesmerized by helper springs on shocks. lmao
They used a chisel to remove rusted bolts? People use spray penetrant first.
Spray penetrant ain't going to do shit for a bowl that is truly locked up 😂😂. I'm guessing you never gotten to a problem where you actually needed a tap and die set😂shh. The adults are talking
Love all of these arm chair experts.
"No touching" Love the Arrested Development quote, Andre!
Pretty cool transformation, I wonder what was the net change in total weight and how did the center of gravity shift?
The NPRD shifter (instead of PRND) would probably drive me nuts every time. (And may be illegal?) Otherwise, this is amazing!
Andre you should use the hatchet handle as a shift lever for the transfer case! Enjoyed the build!
Heck yea!
You can tell where the oil was leaking onto the frame barely any rust
Loving the build!
Don’t understand why these videos haven’t been super popular, maybe video length or something??
The only thing I wish was done different was to completely restore the body too. That forest Service green would have been amazing to see as a fresh paint job. Of course, it’s all $$$$$.
Looking forward to seeing this crush some off road courses, keep up the awesome content.
Just takes money... lots and lots of it
I did a build similar to what is being done here, but I added a carpenters rack with a 1.1 KW solar array that gave me between 15 and 25 miles of free solar driving per day here in Old Town, Maine. You might consider adding one.
Thank you for the feedback. 1.1 kW of solar a very big array.
you should upgrade those old leaf springs to parabolic springs they offer a far smother ride.
You should swap out those parabolic springs with airbags. Much smoother ride😂
@@ClaytonBigsby01 yea i had that idea to till i seen how much BS red tape you have to go through at least here in Australia.
Hey - abt 2.4 miles/kWh. About like the LIghning Pro (though not as fast or at same speed). Should be able to do a LOT of work at a ranch with that battery capacity!! Nice.
Oh Man! I have a dead, yet sentimental, '77 ford long bed that I worked on with my old man that I would love to bring back to life with this with. It is just an undesirable 2wd v6 long bed farm truck rotting away so I always thought what is the point but to resurrect it as AWD EV? very tempting. Would even love a Hybrid. I gotta find out if there are any options in a budget for me. thanks for sharing!
Super fun video but really surprised once everything was off - why not repaint it ? Next to impossible once all that stuff is on
That’s exactly what I thought! It doesn’t make sense!
"Are ya holdin it" guy works like me but he's more selective with his words. Lol
I wish I had the $100+K to throw at a project like this over here in Australia; get myself an old International and 'update' ... thanks for the video, great build
Cool EV truck! If you want it to keep working long-term, make sure all of those copper bus bars are in waterproof enclosures and get nickel plated! Might end up with some corrosion issues down the road otherwise.
It was pretty cool to see this truck at the Overland Expo in Loveland, Co a few months ago. The only reason I went to the Expo was because TFL said they would be there to meet folks in one of their Podcast. Also, because my overland trip with my new 2021 F-150 XLT FX-4 Powerboost from Maryland to Colorado/Utah schedule lined up pretty good for a diversion. Anyway, never got to meet anyone from TFL because they were not there the last day, which was a bummer. However, seeing and touching Chargezilla was a special connection for me with TFL because I enjoy watching TFL's truck videos. Also, got to see the Ford Lightning TFL drove to Alaska. I wasn't expecting either Truck to be at the EXPO. Sorry for the ramble. I enjoyed this video - thanks!
I have that on my 1988 Chevrolet Suburban I also put them on a 94 Pontiac Montana that I was using as a tow vehicle for my welding machine
Completely unprotected high voltage electrical connections? I would not touch anything built by this company. Plexiglass cover is not going to stop humidity from getting to the connections under the hood or on the motor. Driving in the rain could result in electrical arcs and the connections will corrode faster than the truck body is rusting.
I agree. It seemed like some very crucial features are just exposed to elements and road debris. Why would you put the battery cooling fans at the bottom? They're gonna suck up all the road grit and fail eventually and then bye bye batteries.
isn’t legacy ev the same company rich rebuilds worked with to build his side by side utv? his batteries blew up at the car show or something
Agree they probably gave him a discount so they cut a corner or two but they should have gone all out!
They clearly stated the exposed high voltage contactor box stuff under the hood was going to have a plexiglass surround to protect it
All the other connections are the weather rated type of stuff, and the fan facing down, I believe the fan on that unit is designed to be exposed to the road essentially
As for Rich, the fire with his side by side was caused by him improperly installing the batteries from legacy EV, the batteries themselves were fine
Somebody doesn’t work with electricity and it shows 🙄
Man,,, life is great when you have a 2 post lift!! Only thing better is a second lift for the frame and chassis as you work on it!! 😂😂
Steering box-steering box-steering box-The gear box is the one on the back of the motor 😂😂- if you can’t cut it out - cut it off -👍👍-
Very cool. I’ll wait on the Edison hybrid conversion for mine but this would be fun to have for short range playing.
This is very cool. I just bet the price is out of range for most regular people.
Many companies are chasing the wealthy at the top of the food chain leaving the 90% behind. The top 10% of the population has 90% of the money. Don't quote me on that cus I think the equation is worse than that.
It really depends, if your already trying to make the horsepower and torque numbers this truck puts down it will be cheaper with the EV conversion, plus less maintenance and more reliability. And I'm a die hard Ford Small block guy, I thought EVs were going to be shit a few years ago lol
Andre has been a very busy man. Good video as always.
Thank you for watching.
Do those front leaf springs look a bit flat or it's just me ?
Brings me back to my hi school days when I did my first 428 swap in to my 1972 f250.
Curious about maintenance. Can motors and batteries be swapped out without needing to remove cab and box?
That’s a kool truck. I personally don’t care for that EV swap but to each his own. I would’ve put a nice 351 or 460 in it. Guess I’m just oldskool. An Australian Barra engine swap would be killa too👍🏾👍🏾
Ford sells crate electric motors with conversion kits for old Fords. Are they too expensive?
I wonder if the cost would become lower once there is a standardized process and components so let's customization needed? Say someone made a complete kit for the 57 Chevy since there are so many of those could it end up being half as costly as this perhaps?
I think that's the point of doing these random conversions. If you remember in the video, they mentioned a couple times "we did the same thing in the Bronco". So, it seems like they are looking to streamline the process.
Several people have commented on the cost of this particular conversion. However, I don't think they are looking at the big picture. All R&D is done with a hefty price tag. But the point of doing these is not to do it cheaply as possible. Its to find out if it IS possible. Once they start to standardize, I'm sure in a few years the costs will come down.
It's in our best interest to invest in conversions. Not everyone can afford a brand new Tesla, or F150 Lightning, so its paramount companies like this work to keep costs down. Eventually, conversions will become more commonplace. And will save a lot of vehicles from going to the scrap heap.
@@shawnwaldrop3702 I envision or you could say fantasize about some junkyard with a lot of the classic 50s 60s and 70s cars having a combined junkyard and EV conversion shop
the see through lighted box is the sickest thing ive ever seen
Awesome video! I love this kind of content, can't wait for more!
Much more is coming soon.
🤣🤣🤣
I'd like to convert my wifes 4WD 89 Isuzu Trooper to electric front wheel drive. No rear drive! And with the hubs on the front I could flat tow it behind my RV by dialing out the hubs when we want to tow it. Im sure she'd run the wheels off it running to town. The body and frame have been restored and are waiting for the engine to get rebuilt.
They were great SUV's in their day, but the heads liked to blow gaskets.
I’m working on the math for an 87 trooper keeping 4wd. Trying to figure out gear reduction for direct drive to transfer case. Got any tips?
Enough room there for a frunk.
Awesome build- but those gauges and window on the floor are hideous
Man I would've spent time fixing all the rust before slapping all that in there...
I have a 1968 F100, all original. 68k original miles. I think I may do this conversion.
Quiero poner a mi camioneta f350 año 1966 esa máquina eléctrica exelente diseño felicitaciones sigan enviando más proyectos
Awesome truck can’t wait to see it off-road
I think this would actually be fun to take a more modern truck. Maybe even a first, or even better, a second generation lightning and electrify it.
Ummm, it sounds like you want to turn an EV (lightning) into an EV?
@@DionVlmfao no, he said 2nd gen lightning.
They can afford to convert it to electric but chose to leave the single circuit master cylinder alone...
I have an Pulsar Engine that is only called an engine because it is spinning at 20,000 RPM that I am working on and it is all electric, and able to reduce these battery packs and lowering the vehicle weight. And that will be built around mid - 2024. And from there, I should be able to produce enough power to immediately remove any requirement for recharging.
With the old green color I wonder if it was an old US Forest service truck?
Can’t wait to see this perform on the ranch.
If you don’t get too crazy with the four wheeler, it’s got a really good set up. But if you do any rock crawling, I would put a skid plate underneath that that battery that would not move.
That is exactly my thought!
I'd put a plate below the plastic radiator fans also. Too east to throw a rock up at them.
Typical shop told the customer we have been working on it we have most of the bolts out. Hadn't even started on it. seemed a little lost on how to take a simple old truck apart.
That is a very cool truck
Why doesn't the truck have a floor under the batteries? Trucks are supposed to have a floor.
$60-$80k.
That's the cost.
When it burns to the ground due to an inferior build and protection of the battery?
"Priceless."
Pump those numbers a tickle, most people want power brakes, power steering, heater and A/C!
6:20 Thats pretty typical for old trucks, I myself am the proud owner a 79/8/6 F1-350 Ranger camper special 😂
This shop really needs to hire an electrical engineer to at least look over there wiring, because when this burns down and hurts someone I can guarantee the people suing will. Lots of those connections go way past ignorance to almost criminal.
Electrical engineer wouldn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the application of his trade 😂. Now what you need is an electrician specializing in DC
Just found a 76 f250 no engine no transmission for 1200 on marketplace. Looked it up on TH-cam and people have done the ev conversion, am i about to embark on a new adventure???
Don't know the size of the original gas tank, but all that work and $40,000.00 to replace it with a 6.3 gallon tank!!! But 2.17 miles per kilowatt hour equals about 26.92 miles per gallon, that ain't so bad. But it can only go about 169 miles on a charge, that ain't so good.
It would be interesting to see how it compares to Edison Motors EV conversion kit.
"pixie dust and unicorn fart swap" there I fixed the title.
Could you please elaborate on how this setup is controlled? Do the 2 motors need to be synchronized? And how? Also what numbers were used for the component selection (hp, torque, rpm, etc., especially in comparison with stock)....and is this an AWD vehicle now? And if front and rear driveshafts are running at same speed, would there not be a serious problem at asphalt?
It was green, now fully green, I will try to do this to my 78 ford
That is the model with the different newer style cab & previous older model bed. I think only one year did this ever happen.
I am a TFL fan. You guys do an awesome job. Your adventures and honest reviews for all things EV reinforced my thoughts on EVs...which is they are not practical, or useful, unless you drive short distances and have zero risk of ever having to haul ass away from danger (hurricane). Give me a diesel engine in a truck that can pull some weight.
Wrap it up I'll take it. Thanks for sharing
It is scary to think they did not even know what overload shocks were. The way there talking i think it's the first time any of them has pulled an old truck apart. What away to jack up the hours on disassembly costs .
I wonder if I can find a way to make it work for a gen 1 or gen 2 crv. That is actually what led me to this vid. I know suvs are closer to trucks then anything else or old school ones unless you wanna bring station wagons to the chat. There was one guy who did ev convert a 1st gen (98) but it was far from complete. I wanna go for just getting parts I would need. Ideally I would be able to have almost the same range as a built up EV by Having the 2 batterie method. If there's any products recomended to buy I apreciate it. But the purchasing wont be done until a year down. Im in trade school still.
When is it up for sale?? I’m ready to put in the 1st and last bids!
We are targeting late January 2023 in Scottsdale.
It’s not high voltage kabels it’s high amp cable, how thicker the wire more amp is gonna flow in to it
Nice build, curious to see what would happen if it were driven in some deep water
It’s so funny watching people deal with rust. That never have before. I would of had that truck apart twice as fast.
Explain
@@PuJolsLol Probably use a torch, lightning quick!
@@PuJolsLolrust locks up anything that moves or tightens. So it's very hard to get a part loose that's rusted shut . But there are a variety of ways of dealing with locked up parts
Sad to see the 300 I6 go? pfft, Make a GenSet out of it! and put in the bed of the truck, for extended run.... ! lol,
I keep getting kicked out of all my mudding spots for my truck being to loud this would be awesome
I hope this series goes well it’s a cool idea
Hello 👋 I have a 68 Ford short bed bump side ,needs all of that done to it How much money 💰, I live in Texas
Odd that they took the cab off and didn't align it with the box when they put it back on.
how are you guys doing heating and cooling?
This is pretty cool. Can I ask, what something like this cost and is it available for everyday folks to purchase?
The internal combustion engine has sent millions to the grave. No sadness to melt down a disease for all time!
it literally improved billions of peoples lives. unless you like staring at the rear end of an ox or horse.
Go hug a tree
An EV pollutes more in making, maintenance, and operation in a few years more than this truck has in its entire lifetime. Do actual research before spewing your Greenpeace propaganda BS. May actually learn something.
The steering column and gearbox are a single unit on the 61-64 2wd and 61-66 4wd
We learned the hard way.
You guys honestly should of went away those those non shackle leaf springs and put shackle ones on it. Also should of gotten rid of that closed knuckle low pinion Dana 44.
100%
I'd like to see the following items included in this build:
dual master cylinder power brakes
E-power steering
E-heater
E-A/C
Super Duty axles FTW
How much did this operation cost in money?
I keep seeing elect vehicle programs but I don’t know anyone that can afford to do the project that are being shown ?
Is this motor splashproof IPxx? It looks so open and the connections also rot away if there is enough moisture. But by the way, a great project. Thumbs up from germany
Very interesting build. I would be curious as to the cost of that build. Broke down with all the parts cost and the labor costs separated. Very cool classic ford
Nice build.
Interesting truck the cab is mid 60s your bed is late 50s or early 60s so it's likely a older truck frame and bed with a newer cab since it has the earlier style motor mounts and divorced transfer case.
A single motor is easier and less complicated. What is the point of the dual motor?
It’s packaging in this case, and balancing power per dollar.
I see a volga in the background!
Don't see any way to shift the transfer case?
(Not that you'd want to go off road in it, I would be skeered to get all that stuff wet 😬)