I mean he'd be like "Interesting, that guy's got the same last name as us and my son who got executed before he could have a 2nd kid, could be a distant relative"
Can't believe people call Eren's character an "Edgelord." No, edgy cringe guys are ones without explanation for the actions that they are able to do along with starting perfect from the jump. Eren was anything BUT perfect in episode 5 of season 1. Yes he has an unhinged personality trait but he clearly shows empathy and remorse in a few actions he does
Gabi kills Sasha. Levi gets Blown up. Eren’s head get shot off. Hanji dies. Eren Impregnates Historia. Survey Corps gets poisoned with Zeke’s Titan fluid mixed with wine🍷.
Eren shaking Reiners hand I think was Eren saying: “I understand why you had to do what you did. I respect you in a way because now We’re the same. But now I have to do what I have to do!”
Eren basically said: I thought you were a villain because I wasn't in your shoes, now I understand, we're the same. Don't take this personally but I'm destroying your hometown too
He literally pulled the uno reverse card on Reiner when Reiner also pulled him up from the ground in one of the flashbacks this season. Definitely shows how these two are very similar in many ways.
@@damester13 yeah when Eren kept blaming himself for not being as strong as Mikasa and Reiner, to which Reiner responded back that just keep moving forward and kill all those titans.
I like how eren did this because i think if he just came and destroyed marley, reiner might have felt guilty that eren was getting revenge for them destroying the wall and lying to them for years. His mental health might have been way worse
Reiner: “No Eren you can’t transform there’s too many innocent lives around.” Eren: “Human Lives? Is that some type of boomer joke I’m too young to understand?”
Technically Willy didnt lie in his speech, there was an uprising against King Fritz's rule and the Founding Titan was stolen and is in the hands of Eren. Its all about perspective and because they see King Fritz as the good guy, naturally they would think anybody who overthrew his rule would be seen as the bad guys.
Yeah they probably heard the word "stolen" and got a negative connatation from it, but that's basically what Grisha did. He just ran up on them and ate Frieda 😂
I don't get why you need to say technically, what he said (after saying the truth is a little different ofc) was 100% true. Grisha stole the power and gave it to Eren and now Eren has the ability to end the world if he wills.
But it wasn't like they suddenly didn't trust/hate Eldians when they heard the Founding was taken. They still hated and mistreated them wrong for ages.
I know! It always struck me as ridiculously sad that Bertholdt worked so hard to get his mission over with so he could see his dad before he passed away, but he never got the chance. Ouchhh
yeah... considering there were so many ppl with differently working brains... one of them had to know who Hoover is... Most reactors are watching S4 after a break, and so have forgotten the details. Or they are clouts.
Peace was an option that's why Eren didn't straight up just kill everyone once they got to Marley, he was waiting to listen to what Willy was going to declare. Eren gave them a chance unlike Reiner who never listened to Eldians before destroying the Walls and causing mass Genocide and then regretting what he had done years later after he learned Eldians aren't demon's they're just humans trying to survive.
@@LonexCyborg Reiner was a brainwashed child, he didn't know better. Thats the point of highlighting Eren's previous statement of "I'll make you guys die in the most painful way possible.", Eren didn't know better to not blame them. The ones at fault are those in Marley who ordered the attack on Paradis, not the kids who were used as weapons of war. I'm not saying Eren shouldn't have attack here because he understood everything though.
The cut on his hand was used kind of like a gun pointed at Reiner. Titan shifters always create a wound to activate their transformation so Eren was letting Reiner know to relax or I’m going ham
I thought titan shifters automatically transformed when hurt. So he can control when he wants to transform. Because his hand was cut, he could transform when he so chose to?
@Undying Uzumaki does he need the cut for that though? Remember season 1 when eren goes to reach a spoon on the floor but couldn’t get it, but then turns his arm into a Titan to grab it, there was no cut there, just his will to grab the spoon. Maybe founding Titan just needs the will? Also dont spoil
The way Eren's eye lights up and he cracks a smile when Willy says : "because I was born into this world" was so good and so sad ,it's the same line he said in season 1, it's the same for Paradise Island, they were born into this world so why is this world rejecting their right to live, this story is amazing
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 no that's a different one , she basically said he's special just by virtue of being born, but in season 1 when eren lost consciousness and armin tried to wake him to lift the boulder, armin asked eren about why he wants to go to the outside world, and in his dream eren responded "because I was born into this world"
The trick is falco witnesses their conversation but at the same time he is a countermeasure for reiner to not transform if anything happens, same for the people in the building.
He wasn't even a countermeasure, he just wanted Falco to understand why the things that were about to happen were going to happen. This later changes Falco's mindset as Eren already could tell Falco was smart enough to understand the other side of things unlike Gabi.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 i know thats why i added falco witnesses their conversation. But think anout it even tho Reiner’s mind was totally of at that moment he would at least have a chance to partially stop Eren from going berserk.• spoilers from here for anime onlys• We see Reiner later in the story wanting to stop Eren even with that mindset.
@@kalebdickerson268 I think its actually pretty tame. I had one that was crazier for about 3 months before it got took down lol the cartoon pics are easier to keep up
The reason Eren is there talking to Reiner is to convince himself that what he's about to do is just and he has no choice, the same way Reiner did back then.
the reason eren pulled up reiner was the parallels between them. reiner told eren when eren was kneeling on the floor to keep pushing forward. and now eren pulls up reiner and tells him he's going to keep pushing forward.
Sure, but... there is a big but.. even if they do not declare the war, Eren could still destroy the world. As Willy knows that Paradis people have already infiltrated Marley. So he knows they are here to war, so at least Willy tries to recruit the whole world to join him and fight against Eren. It's like, if we are going to die anyway, we might just die fighting. Justified move imo.
it makes sense why they would attack tho seeing how they could literally activate the rumbling at any time and could hold the world hostage and recreate the eldian empire (which was grisha and the restorationists plan from the beginning) so it would make sense why the world would want to fight back instead of being enslaved again for another 2000 years.
I felt like this was more of Eren justifying his action to someone that knows the full history. To anyone else outside of the main cast, this looks like Eren has been planning an attack this whole time. In Eren's eyes this is almost a pre-emptive strike. To him, Marely's culture of indoctrination would have always ended in Paradis always being attacked. To protect "his" people the would take the war the enemy. It's an example of the more complex paradox of leadership. Attack an enemy in their home because there is a high chance of an attack on your lands. OR wait till the attack comes, possibly killing many of your people but you are justified in your reaction.
I found Eren's talk more of him empathizing with Reiner rather than trying to justify what he is about to do. Like he wanted to explain to Reiner that he finally understands him being that they are now the same having both spent time eating, sleeping and interacting with the enemy. Basically like, "You know what? I was really mad at you, I wanted to kill you. But now that I've grown up and invaded your hometown like you did mine, I really get it now, we are the same. You had no other choice than to keep pushing forward to protect the world, just like I'm going to keep pushing forward to protect MY world".
I mean, this isn't even a pre-emptive strike. He waited until a formal declaration of war was made to do anything. Sure, what he actually did immediately *was* a series of increasingly severe war crimes, but in terms of the ethics of war right up until the end of this season Eren still had a better moral highground than the United States has held at any point in the last fifty years.
To be honest, the marly is the one who broke the deal first, they been sending titans to paradise island for years... And remember the deal.. Don't bother them, so basically eren is just doing what supposed to happen if they broke the deal... THE RUMBLING BEGINS HERE!
"marly is the one who broke the deal first, they been sending titans to paradise island for years" wait what was the deal again? is there a deal where if marley bothers them, they will send in the rumbling? i don't quite remember the deal but i do remember about King Frits promise to not bother the other people. this is weird, cuz if that was the deal than thats weird cuz King Fritz himself stated that if Marley grow strong and decided to take the founding titan or his life, he will accept it. this means that if Marley send an army to capture the founding titan, to kill or whatever, King Fritz will not fight back, he will accept it cuz he believe the sins of the eldiens were so grave that they could never atoned for it. so basically King Fritz doesn't mind if his eldien people got killed by the marley cuz he thinks it is justified for the horrible things that had happen in the past pretty dumb of King Fritz. this is why Eren fight, because King Fritz ideology is stupid cuz why does the eldien that got nothing to do with the past eldien should die as well?
That would be like saying “the nazis did unjust warcrimes. So im gonna flatten the entire country until no german woman, man or child is left alive.” Nothing that happened was ever justice.
@@IXSICNESS Watch the next episode preview and you'll see why he's still alive. The Warhammer Titan is seen transforming......i hope you can piece it together now, I don't want to spoil it for you. I hate spoilers.
Willy: This person is able to destroy the world because the vow of renouncing war does no longer apply on him. The Normies: "That dude probably made that up. Time will tell if you think it was a lie XD Long live Willy Tybur. Truly a man who gave his life to prove his point to the entire world.
People give willy alot of shit but I respect him alot he was right about everything in his speech and he is right saying eren should be eliminated. He is a threat to the entire world and willy is the only one with the balls to declare war to try and beat paradis
@@sedlyholmes3722 Eren needs someone with royal blood to activate past memories, but needs someone with royal blood and is also a titan shifter to use the power of the funding titan
I got confused about it while reading Manga too but I don't understand how people got confused while watching Anime because Voice was so different from Armin
Mappa did such a great job adapting this part of the manga. The animation, art, voice acting and soundtrack were all top tier in this episode. Cannot wait for next week's episode.
“Eldians we’re good before” did he even watch the fucking show the founding titan can see all past and when king Fritz got the founding titan he felt so bad he’d rather just have all his people perish I think that pretty much proves the complete opposite
Gabi kills Sasha. Levi gets Blown up. Eren’s head get shot off. Hanji dies. Eren Impregnates Historia. Survey Corps gets poisoned with Zeke’s Titan fluid mixed with wine🍷.
About the nurse that was taking the names of the corpses in S1. She wasn't uninterested per se, it was more that she's seen so many corpses now she's essentially dead inside. Its a horrifying experience if you think about it.
I mean Willy isn’t wrong that Eren poses a massive threat to the rest of the world, he does that’s a fact. But they do kinda twist and leave out now them destroying the walls definitely helped in getting Eren to where he is (I mean Grisha was going after them anyway) And if I had to chose between Marley’s or Grisha’s story I’d chose Marley. Just because Fritz wanted peace doesn’t mean all previous kings did. I feel the actual truth is a mix of the 2 and not 1 or the other since that’s usually how the real world works, bias is a thing and both sides take part (I mean Grisha legit made his up because Pictures kinda looked like what he believed)
All the things Willy said were true. Most of them were confirmed in season 3 (like the vow renouncing war and Uri telling Kenny that he wanted to create a paradise). The thing I see that most people have a problem with is how Willy "bent" the story to make Eren seem like a bad guy. Eren is a bad guy for Marley and the entire world (he even said in at the end of season 3 "when we kill all our enemies, will we finally be free?"). Willy just proved that the king of the wall was a pacifist. What would he think of a man that kills the pacifist and takes "the switch for the nuclear weapons" but to think that he is a threat
It's true that titans were terrorizing people due to their sheer strength, but Eren being a danger actually was false, as Eren was only committed to destroying his enemies. So if Willy never declared war, they would all be safe. It's literally Willy's fault that it came to this.
Once the king made a vow renouncing war.. all the royal bloods inheriting the founding titan were bound to that will.. even if they were pro war before getting the powers the vow would override that desire and they will become peaceful!
This was the best episode in all of the show not just anime. The build up to the transformation. Eren waiting for them to confirm war upon paradise to attack....ooh perfect.
The cut in erens hand was a threat to Reiner that he could transform at anytime. He didn’t need to bite or cut himself because he had already done that step.
at around 23:44 I think Marketa was confused about how Grisha got the founding titan and it wasn't from the owl (Eren Kruger) but from the Reiss family. Grisha got the attack titan from the owl. So essentially he passed on two intelligent titans to Eren, the attack titan (from the owl) and the founding titan (from the Reiss family)
Hearing Atˈæk 0N Tάɪtn play in a theatre full of people from all over the world is the large scale equivalent of hearing the Rains of Castamere played in a wedding banquet.
I enjoy there reaction especially Navi she especially seems to catch a lot especially the thing with Pieck probably passing a message to that group. This is a very sad story..I feel for both Eren and Reiner both doing the same thing to protect there family and friends. The diplomatic approach it's an interesting question that's going to be explained further down the line.
Eren just said: "Oh you guys want war? I will give you war" It's like Eren wanted to hear what Willy had to say and his decision will depend on that And just to help you remember, the titan transformstion needs 3 conditions: 1- You have to be completly healed, if you miss a single finger you can't transform until it regenerates, if you remember Hannes died because Eren couldn't transform because he didn't completly heal himself. 2- You have to hurt yourself or suffer damage of some sort, the fastest thay every holder of one of the nine titans uses to transform is cutting their hands. 3- You need to transform at will, you can't transfrom by just hurting yourself.
Holding Reiner's hand had nothing to do with anything except acknowledging that he has no choice and has to do what he has to do just like Riener had to do. It was to close the parallels they've been drawing between Eren and Reiner for the past 2 episodes. The cut on Erens's hand was to have something to hold against Reiner. Incase Reiner started something, he would be able to transform immediately instead of having to cut himself or bite his thumb off.
To be fair, the simple fact Eren and company have infiltrated the country for years in preparation to crumble it, only proves Willy’s point that Eren is a problem that they needed to stop.
if the Tybur family were not dumbfucks and had not allowed Marley to oppress eldians and had not allowed Marley to invade Paradise island. they wouldn't be in this situation
Willy was actually wrong. Eren's group infiltrated to gather information and see what it was like first, which is when they realized these people were similar. In fact, without spoiling, they never would've attacked if Willy hadn't declared war.
Yes as if they were not the ones fucking things up by sending the titans to Paradias and treating the eldians like trash... Eren is not doing this for fun
How is Colossal one of the 9 if we learned this episode there are multiple Colossal Titans? Like I thought one of the 9 had to be a unique type of Titan but apparently the walls are made of Colossal Titans.
17:40 eren picked up reiner to parallel the scene in episode 3 this season when reiner picked him up and told him to move forward. he did it to show that that was the moment where he realized that they were the same since they both choose to move forward for their own reasons.
Eren made his palm bleed to threaten Reiner to a conversation. Remember once he cuts himself he can transform at will at any point and Reiner doesn't want Falco to get caught up in it.
I started watching it when it came out in 2013 (I was still a kid at the time) and I'm alive to see this Masterpiece being adapted for animation to this day, which is an extremely heavy and complicated story to deal with that has no cliché elements. that I would instantly guarantee a profit from all the massive majority of series and anime that comes every year, is undoubtedly a privilege that I will carry for the rest of my life ...
Like, the Royal family just seemed to believe that they could never make up for all of their sins that they did to masses of people, and if this was their end, then so be it. But then you got folk like Eren saying "do I not matter? do my friend's lives not matter? should it just end because the rest of the world fears our existence?!" And they gonna want to act like the victims of this attack, even though they all just gave an applause in agreement of full blown attacking this island of people who's been tormented by Titan's for a century. Like nah, y'all going down!
I just want to say that this is the best discussion I've seen of them recently, compared to others from different reactions. It just exposes that they are really enjoying this show.
The people in the audience and building: "Wow. That titan looks really realist- OH FUCK-"
"they are really putting up the efforts this year"
Wow the Production Quality is really good... Is that CGI 🤣
I'm imagining this in Abridged Cell voice XD
my nigga Eren pulled a Final Destination
@@FantasyVitor oh cute, he named it OH SHIT!!
Eren’s grandpa hearing his last name as enemy number one.
Him: ayo wtf
lmfaoo
Imagine when he realizes the man he was talking to at the hospital was his grandson the whole time 💀
Send him to Paradis
@@davidyodo24 I doubt he would want to live there.
I mean he'd be like
"Interesting, that guy's got the same last name as us and my son who got executed before he could have a 2nd kid, could be a distant relative"
Wow, the play's special effects are even better the Avatar Ember Islands. Did you see how realistic the titan effect was.
They even have the scar on the right side
@@austin9568AuraMasterDX 🤣🤣
Audiences: Willy is that part of the play?
The Audience be like: wait a minute, it looks so Real now....
*I N 3 D*
Willy: Declares war on Paradis
Eren: “Oh yeah its gamer time”
First Blood!
fuckin spawncamper
Hey, he waited for the match to start. Fair's fair.
If someone tries to take away my freedom then I'll take theirs
@@mysteryace2129 take my freedom? I‘ll take your life
Eren: “We’re the same.🤔”
Reiner: “In what way? we’re both victims of circumstances type of way or we’re both mass murderers type of way?”
Eren: *yes*
BOTH
He meant both, he meant more of like a "now you reap what you sow"
Same Reason you did... Because i have no other choice
LMFAOOOOO
Can't believe people call Eren's character an "Edgelord." No, edgy cringe guys are ones without explanation for the actions that they are able to do along with starting perfect from the jump. Eren was anything BUT perfect in episode 5 of season 1. Yes he has an unhinged personality trait but he clearly shows empathy and remorse in a few actions he does
Falco was like: "You guys are bestfriends right?😃"
Also Falco: ...right? 😳
@@varunnagrare4912
Eren: ⚡
Reiner and Falco while Eren’s transforming: 😧
Falco when when he realizes what he did:🥲
😂😂😂
Poor Falco, he's just trying to be a good person but now realizes that he was an accomplice to the most dangerous man in the world 💀💀.
BAAHHHHHHHHAAAA💀😭😭😭
Imagine you help this veteran you trust deliver mail from him and help him out. Turns out it was Bin Laden and you just helped 911 happen like damn...
@@wokie.3204 oof thats tough 😭
@@wokie.3204 Not even 9/11 more like launch a nuke to start WW3
@@maxwellsope1080 well he did pop a building so..
"he is making a threat"
"no, hes just saying "dont do anything stupid""
* eren is making a threat *
":o"
Don't do anything stupid CHIZAR. Not a threat btw.
Gabi kills Sasha. Levi gets Blown up. Eren’s head get shot off. Hanji dies. Eren Impregnates Historia. Survey Corps gets poisoned with Zeke’s Titan fluid mixed with wine🍷.
he's also saying that so he can't turn into a titan and kill his own people but eren can do that because it's not his people.
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Attack on Titan misheard lyrics ft Donald Trump
@@erenjaeger2191 imagine commenting spoilers to get attention
Willy: I DECLARE WAR
Eren: *aight bet*
Eren: he said it not me!
Eren shaking Reiners hand I think was Eren saying:
“I understand why you had to do what you did. I respect you in a way because now We’re the same. But now I have to do what I have to do!”
Eren basically said: I thought you were a villain because I wasn't in your shoes, now I understand, we're the same. Don't take this personally but I'm destroying your hometown too
"A man have to do what a man does"
He literally pulled the uno reverse card on Reiner when Reiner also pulled him up from the ground in one of the flashbacks this season. Definitely shows how these two are very similar in many ways.
@@damester13 yeah when Eren kept blaming himself for not being as strong as Mikasa and Reiner, to which Reiner responded back that just keep moving forward and kill all those titans.
I like how eren did this because i think if he just came and destroyed marley, reiner might have felt guilty that eren was getting revenge for them destroying the wall and lying to them for years. His mental health might have been way worse
"I just keep moving forward... *_until my enemies are destroyed"_*
- Eren _"The Rebel Against Peace"_ Jaeger
More like Rebel for peace. His entire race will be eradicated if he doesn't fight.
SUSUME
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Attack on Titan misheard lyrics ft Donald Trump
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 PepeLaugh HE DOESNT KNOW
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 On the other hand... You know what happens.
Reiner: “No Eren you can’t transform there’s too many innocent lives around.”
Eren: “Human Lives? Is that some type of boomer joke I’m too young to understand?”
Damn lol lol 😂
Haha titan go brrrrr
Eren understands they're innocent humans, he just knows that he also has a job to do
@@mustardyboi4187 that doesn't make it right...
"Innocent lives deez nuts"
Technically Willy didnt lie in his speech, there was an uprising against King Fritz's rule and the Founding Titan was stolen and is in the hands of Eren. Its all about perspective and because they see King Fritz as the good guy, naturally they would think anybody who overthrew his rule would be seen as the bad guys.
Yeah they probably heard the word "stolen" and got a negative connatation from it, but that's basically what Grisha did. He just ran up on them and ate Frieda 😂
also the eldian empires killing of that many people is true also
I don't get why you need to say technically, what he said (after saying the truth is a little different ofc) was 100% true. Grisha stole the power and gave it to Eren and now Eren has the ability to end the world if he wills.
@@annaairahala9462 how I seriously understand both parties now
But it wasn't like they suddenly didn't trust/hate Eldians when they heard the Founding was taken. They still hated and mistreated them wrong for ages.
EVERYONE IN THIS ANIME IS LITERALLY INFLUENCED BY THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM AND THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES. It's Beautiful how oddly realistic it is.
Ikr
Isn’t this how all animes should be
Eren: I forgive you.....
Also Eren: Imma still destroy you
Those aren't contradictory statements tho
No harsh feelings bro XD.
Reiner: What?
Eren: At least it is not personal anymore
Kinda Like Bert :3
i know you guys are just joking but you guys understand the story here right? just like Reiner, you guys understand why Eren do that right?
They're the first people ive seen that actually acknowledge the fact that bertholdts dad had passed away when Reiners mom and Annie's dad were talking
I know! It always struck me as ridiculously sad that Bertholdt worked so hard to get his mission over with so he could see his dad before he passed away, but he never got the chance. Ouchhh
yeah... considering there were so many ppl with differently working brains... one of them had to know who Hoover is... Most reactors are watching S4 after a break, and so have forgotten the details. Or they are clouts.
Reminds me when Moblit sacrificed for Hange most of reactors I watched didn't even recognized him.
"because i was born into this world." recurring quote in this series everytime shit hits the fan🤯
"Until I destroy my enemies". Peace was never an option
Peace was an option that's why Eren didn't straight up just kill everyone once they got to Marley, he was waiting to listen to what Willy was going to declare. Eren gave them a chance unlike Reiner who never listened to Eldians before destroying the Walls and causing mass Genocide and then regretting what he had done years later after he learned Eldians aren't demon's they're just humans trying to survive.
Well, it was. But Willy said no.
Willy marked himself as an enemy by declaring war. So no but yes
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 indeed, it's clear that Eren had a slight hope of things turning out differently, but reality is cruel.
@@LonexCyborg Reiner was a brainwashed child, he didn't know better. Thats the point of highlighting Eren's previous statement of "I'll make you guys die in the most painful way possible.", Eren didn't know better to not blame them. The ones at fault are those in Marley who ordered the attack on Paradis, not the kids who were used as weapons of war. I'm not saying Eren shouldn't have attack here because he understood everything though.
The cut on his hand was used kind of like a gun pointed at Reiner. Titan shifters always create a wound to activate their transformation so Eren was letting Reiner know to relax or I’m going ham
I thought titan shifters automatically transformed when hurt. So he can control when he wants to transform. Because his hand was cut, he could transform when he so chose to?
@Undying Uzumaki does he need the cut for that though? Remember season 1 when eren goes to reach a spoon on the floor but couldn’t get it, but then turns his arm into a Titan to grab it, there was no cut there, just his will to grab the spoon. Maybe founding Titan just needs the will?
Also dont spoil
@@askechadd2473 he did have a cut when he reached for the spoon, just bandaged up.
@@cursedexistence7369 no, that cut would’ve healed by then right? What episode I’ll go rewatch
@Undying Uzumaki I mean that’s what I thought. But again that spoon thing in season 1 was at a time I don’t think he was cut
Willy: I declare war to Paradis!
Eren: That's my cue!
Eren with the fastest "challenge accepted" ever. Willy hadn't even finished the sentence.
The way Eren's eye lights up and he cracks a smile when Willy says : "because I was born into this world" was so good and so sad ,it's the same line he said in season 1, it's the same for Paradise Island, they were born into this world so why is this world rejecting their right to live, this story is amazing
I thought his mom was the one who said that?
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 no that's a different one , she basically said he's special just by virtue of being born, but in season 1 when eren lost consciousness and armin tried to wake him to lift the boulder, armin asked eren about why he wants to go to the outside world, and in his dream eren responded "because I was born into this world"
This episode translated so fucking well from manga to screen...Im SOOO fucking happy....10/10
They better be. They kept us waiting like 1.5 years for this
Too bad they fucking censored Willy getting smashed on stage by Eren with a huge dust cloud.
@@War_Maker I thought he crushed him with his hand? Why and how would he pick him up and throw him if he stomped him?
Wished they used the unreleased fanmade soundtrack tho
@@Dave_of_Mordor 3 years..
Willy: I proclaim to the enemy forces of Paradis, A declaration of war!
Eren: War it is, bitch!
The trick is falco witnesses their conversation but at the same time he is a countermeasure for reiner to not transform if anything happens, same for the people in the building.
Eren is smart as fuck
He wasn't even a countermeasure, he just wanted Falco to understand why the things that were about to happen were going to happen. This later changes Falco's mindset as Eren already could tell Falco was smart enough to understand the other side of things unlike Gabi.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 yeah, he knew Falco is kindhearted and capable of understanding the truth if he listened to their conversation
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 i know thats why i added falco witnesses their conversation. But think anout it even tho Reiner’s mind was totally of at that moment he would at least have a chance to partially stop Eren from going berserk.• spoilers from here for anime onlys• We see Reiner later in the story wanting to stop Eren even with that mindset.
Willy declared war and Eren answered it back immediately
"I think we were born this way...... I just keep moving forward". I felt that in my soul
Ayo that pfp tho
Wtf lmao
Your pfp is insane my guy.
@@kalebdickerson268
I think its actually pretty tame. I had one that was crazier for about 3 months before it got took down lol the cartoon pics are easier to keep up
Bruh that pfp😂 🍆
“Bruh this episode is taking too long!”
Felt like 5 minutes to me lol. Still was awesome nonetheless.
The contradiction of a 30 minute episode, feeling like 5 minutes and still being excruciatingly long lol
The reason Eren is there talking to Reiner is to convince himself that what he's about to do is just and he has no choice, the same way Reiner did back then.
the reason eren pulled up reiner was the parallels between them. reiner told eren when eren was kneeling on the floor to keep pushing forward. and now eren pulls up reiner and tells him he's going to keep pushing forward.
Suraj: YouSeeBIGGIRL is the song when shit's about to go down.
Titanfolk: HA! SEE! He said it!!!
Reiner: Eren, why did you came here?
Eren: *To give the biggest "NO U" in anime history.*
Everyone in the audience: ayo that titan kinda getting a lil close don't you thi-"
Willy: "I proclaim to the enemy forces of Paradis, A declaration of war!"
Eren: *Allow me to introduce myself*
"I want us to declare war against Eren Yaeger, the one man who holds the power to wipe out all human life."
Yes, big brain move there Mr. Willy
He's declaring war against a man who could possibly lead to global genocide. What could possibly go wrong?
Exactly. What did u expect?
Yea man, let's provoke the guy who can kill everyone with ease. Makes sense 😂
Sure, but... there is a big but.. even if they do not declare the war, Eren could still destroy the world. As Willy knows that Paradis people have already infiltrated Marley. So he knows they are here to war, so at least Willy tries to recruit the whole world to join him and fight against Eren. It's like, if we are going to die anyway, we might just die fighting. Justified move imo.
it makes sense why they would attack tho seeing how they could literally activate the rumbling at any time and could hold the world hostage and recreate the eldian empire (which was grisha and the restorationists plan from the beginning) so it would make sense why the world would want to fight back instead of being enslaved again for another 2000 years.
I felt like this was more of Eren justifying his action to someone that knows the full history. To anyone else outside of the main cast, this looks like Eren has been planning an attack this whole time. In Eren's eyes this is almost a pre-emptive strike. To him, Marely's culture of indoctrination would have always ended in Paradis always being attacked. To protect "his" people the would take the war the enemy. It's an example of the more complex paradox of leadership. Attack an enemy in their home because there is a high chance of an attack on your lands. OR wait till the attack comes, possibly killing many of your people but you are justified in your reaction.
Eren honestly didn't do anything until Willy declared war. Once that happened he had no choice but to attack.
I found Eren's talk more of him empathizing with Reiner rather than trying to justify what he is about to do. Like he wanted to explain to Reiner that he finally understands him being that they are now the same having both spent time eating, sleeping and interacting with the enemy. Basically like, "You know what? I was really mad at you, I wanted to kill you. But now that I've grown up and invaded your hometown like you did mine, I really get it now, we are the same. You had no other choice than to keep pushing forward to protect the world, just like I'm going to keep pushing forward to protect MY world".
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 correct
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 nah he was gonna attack anyway even if Willy didn't declared a war
I mean, this isn't even a pre-emptive strike. He waited until a formal declaration of war was made to do anything. Sure, what he actually did immediately *was* a series of increasingly severe war crimes, but in terms of the ethics of war right up until the end of this season Eren still had a better moral highground than the United States has held at any point in the last fifty years.
Willy: I declare war!!
Eren: Bitch no need to tell me twice
Eren: Show time
To be honest, the marly is the one who broke the deal first, they been sending titans to paradise island for years... And remember the deal.. Don't bother them, so basically eren is just doing what supposed to happen if they broke the deal... THE RUMBLING BEGINS HERE!
"marly is the one who broke the deal first, they been sending titans to paradise island for years" wait what was the deal again? is there a deal where if marley bothers them, they will send in the rumbling? i don't quite remember the deal but i do remember about King Frits promise to not bother the other people.
this is weird, cuz if that was the deal than thats weird cuz King Fritz himself stated that if Marley grow strong and decided to take the founding titan or his life, he will accept it. this means that if Marley send an army to capture the founding titan, to kill or whatever, King Fritz will not fight back, he will accept it cuz he believe the sins of the eldiens were so grave that they could never atoned for it. so basically King Fritz doesn't mind if his eldien people got killed by the marley cuz he thinks it is justified for the horrible things that had happen in the past pretty dumb of King Fritz.
this is why Eren fight, because King Fritz ideology is stupid cuz why does the eldien that got nothing to do with the past eldien should die as well?
That would be like saying “the nazis did unjust warcrimes. So im gonna flatten the entire country until no german woman, man or child is left alive.” Nothing that happened was ever justice.
Marley did not know about the truth of King Fritz, only the Tyburs did.
@@bigmanbarry2299 You are mistaken. The Marlyns symbolises the Nazis. Eldians are Americans with the nukes
Been waiting all day and love the background intro music
Eren’s character development tho..
Willy Tybur: *declares war*
Eren: *And I took that PERSONALLY*
He died the first two seconds he declared war💀😭
@@neda.abdulrahmanI wouldn't be so sure about that......
@@FavourJaiyeola are you dumb?
@@FavourJaiyeola i mean we saw his crushed corpse expelling copious amounts of blood. If he isnt dead the show loses some points
@@IXSICNESS Watch the next episode preview and you'll see why he's still alive. The Warhammer Titan is seen transforming......i hope you can piece it together now, I don't want to spoil it for you. I hate spoilers.
Willy: This person is able to destroy the world because the vow of renouncing war does no longer apply on him.
The Normies: "That dude probably made that up.
Time will tell if you think it was a lie XD
Long live Willy Tybur. Truly a man who gave his life to prove his point to the entire world.
Shhh
People give willy alot of shit but I respect him alot he was right about everything in his speech and he is right saying eren should be eliminated. He is a threat to the entire world and willy is the only one with the balls to declare war to try and beat paradis
im pretty sure the vow was shown in s3 lmao
Effectively a spoiler, stupid.
@@abysswalker6449 Eren wouldn't of been a threat if they didn't knock hole in the wall, they were minding their own business. So Eren is right.
Willy: I want war
Eren: Ok here’s war
Willy:
👁 👁
👄
This is funny because much like the emojis above, Willy’s face most probably is wrecked now
Just remember that Eren has both the attack titan and the founding titan.
But he still needs zeke to use the founding powers
edit: or others who are royal blood
Marketa forgot about that, but I think everyone else remembered.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 yeah
@@sedlyholmes3722 Eren needs someone with royal blood to activate past memories, but needs someone with royal blood and is also a titan shifter to use the power of the funding titan
@@ventoc7274 not quite true. Dina was not a ‘Titan shifter’ yet Eren used her to control pure titans
People see blonde hair: Armin 100%
goodness gracious
I got confused about it while reading Manga too but I don't understand how people got confused while watching Anime because Voice was so different from Armin
@@knightofenigma it doesn’t look like Armin, it doesn’t sound like Armin, but damn near every reaction I’ve seen has people thinking it’s Armin lol
@@Bestjamesbond To be fair how many important characters from the island in their squad have blonde hair?
@@xavion15 three, two now. None of which look like that character lol
To be fair, only Historia and Armin are blonde. Plus there's a timeskip too.
Mappa did such a great job adapting this part of the manga. The animation, art, voice acting and soundtrack were all top tier in this episode. Cannot wait for next week's episode.
“Eldians we’re good before” did he even watch the fucking show the founding titan can see all past and when king Fritz got the founding titan he felt so bad he’d rather just have all his people perish I think that pretty much proves the complete opposite
He is in denial. Give him a few episodes.
Gabi kills Sasha. Levi gets Blown up. Eren’s head get shot off. Hanji dies. Eren Impregnates Historia. Survey Corps gets poisoned with Zeke’s Titan fluid mixed with wine🍷.
The whole plot of the show is confusing to begin with lol 🤷🏻♂️I’m honestly not surprised to why many reactors aren’t grasping the story.
@@Jcall9 That point is pretty simple to understand though.
@@Jcall9 yeah thats god teir writing
I think the handshake is Eren saying "I forgive you, Reiner but I still have no choice but to do this."
Every episode after this one will be epic
Yasssssss
Like the last lyric of this season opening song...
"war.........war.........war........."
@@putralazialista1071 lol its *monster not "war"
Erin: " I understand why you did everything you did, and get it... But im bout to F your world up."
S1: “I’ll kill ALL the Titans!!!”
S4: “Until ALL my enemies are defeated, I will push forward”
Eren Yeager for best character development.
Declaring war to Eren, and he was right there.
So intense
About the nurse that was taking the names of the corpses in S1. She wasn't uninterested per se, it was more that she's seen so many corpses now she's essentially dead inside. Its a horrifying experience if you think about it.
I mean Willy isn’t wrong that Eren poses a massive threat to the rest of the world, he does that’s a fact. But they do kinda twist and leave out now them destroying the walls definitely helped in getting Eren to where he is (I mean Grisha was going after them anyway)
And if I had to chose between Marley’s or Grisha’s story I’d chose Marley. Just because Fritz wanted peace doesn’t mean all previous kings did. I feel the actual truth is a mix of the 2 and not 1 or the other since that’s usually how the real world works, bias is a thing and both sides take part (I mean Grisha legit made his up because Pictures kinda looked like what he believed)
All the things Willy said were true.
Most of them were confirmed in season 3 (like the vow renouncing war and Uri telling Kenny that he wanted to create a paradise).
The thing I see that most people have a problem with is how Willy "bent" the story to make Eren seem like a bad guy. Eren is a bad guy for Marley and the entire world (he even said in at the end of season 3 "when we kill all our enemies, will we finally be free?").
Willy just proved that the king of the wall was a pacifist. What would he think of a man that kills the pacifist and takes "the switch for the nuclear weapons" but to think that he is a threat
It's true that titans were terrorizing people due to their sheer strength, but Eren being a danger actually was false, as Eren was only committed to destroying his enemies. So if Willy never declared war, they would all be safe. It's literally Willy's fault that it came to this.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 But they do not know that, do they? Willy knows that Paradis people are already here,. So he thinks they are here to attack
Once the king made a vow renouncing war.. all the royal bloods inheriting the founding titan were bound to that will.. even if they were pro war before getting the powers the vow would override that desire and they will become peaceful!
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 its going to be a very interesting season for you my friend.
Tybur: I declare war on the devils on Paradise Island!
Eren: First casualty coming right up!
Eren being as omniscient as can be in this show, made sure to wait until war was claimed to justify his moves.
Smart man. I'd do the same.
indeed, and there's a reason why he seems "omniscient", but I'm not gonna spoil it now
Eren transforming when he picked up that spoon wasn’t a chemical reaction. Remember it was about having a clear goal in mind?
Willy: Let's have a war
Eren: Oh no! Anyway...
This was the best episode in all of the show not just anime.
The build up to the transformation. Eren waiting for them to confirm war upon paradise to attack....ooh perfect.
Everyone theorizing about the soldier who trapped pieck and porkie has me rolling
In the manga comment if i remember they call him old version jean or connie, and they even call tybur is armin and miss azumibito is mikasa.
@@Blast4slayer lol
idk why they think armin can shoot up a whole foot because of some titan powers and sound like a woman but oh well
@@lekans7037 what do you mean, obviously Armin is a terrific actor 😂😂😂
The cut in erens hand was a threat to Reiner that he could transform at anytime. He didn’t need to bite or cut himself because he had already done that step.
Reiner a man broken for the sins he has committed. Eren a man molded by the sins he is going to commit.
Eren did nothing wrong
Eren and Reiner are both prisoners to fate, one knows and accepted it the other doesn't.Still, Eren has the most freedom in the world.
@@Dave_of_Mordor
You seem to don't understand Eren at all.
@@Sunkcostfallecy I got 2 people agreeing with me and none with you
at around 23:44 I think Marketa was confused about how Grisha got the founding titan and it wasn't from the owl (Eren Kruger) but from the Reiss family. Grisha got the attack titan from the owl. So essentially he passed on two intelligent titans to Eren, the attack titan (from the owl) and the founding titan (from the Reiss family)
Marley's military backbone all in the same place?
It would be a shame if some big bad Eren came moving forward
"Anyone can become a God or a Devil. All it takes is for someone to claim that to be the truth". This makes so much sense now WOW!
Its only legendary episodes after this one
As if this episode isn't legendary
@@MandatoryFruit 😂
@@MandatoryFruit it was, but the next ones will be insane
@@PapiChuIo [Manga Spoilers for those who haven't read it]
I'm so hype for the nut cracker
@@MandatoryFruit also spoilers
Rip to 2 of my favourite characters 😭😭😭
The audience be like " That boulder coming towards us is so realist- Urggh"
Hearing Atˈæk 0N Tάɪtn play in a theatre full of people from all over the world is the large scale equivalent of hearing the Rains of Castamere played in a wedding banquet.
I love the tension during these episodes... in any show... where the whole episode is like water boiling up and when it explodes... is beautiful
I enjoy there reaction especially Navi she especially seems to catch a lot especially the thing with Pieck probably passing a message to that group. This is a very sad story..I feel for both Eren and Reiner both doing the same thing to protect there family and friends. The diplomatic approach it's an interesting question that's going to be explained further down the line.
Woow first video i watch with the new editing. Its so good, the new design in general looks real good
My man was the first to die in his own war.
He shook his hand because he genuinely respects and feels sad for him
The blood on his hand was cause he injured himself ahead of time to be able to transform at any moment.
Eren just said: "Oh you guys want war? I will give you war"
It's like Eren wanted to hear what Willy had to say and his decision will depend on that
And just to help you remember, the titan transformstion needs 3 conditions:
1- You have to be completly healed, if you miss a single finger you can't transform until it regenerates, if you remember Hannes died because Eren couldn't transform because he didn't completly heal himself.
2- You have to hurt yourself or suffer damage of some sort, the fastest thay every holder of one of the nine titans uses to transform is cutting their hands.
3- You need to transform at will, you can't transfrom by just hurting yourself.
Willy: Declares war agains Eren
Eren: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move
They gonna feel so dumb when they realize
realize what?
Reiner "I keep moving forward as a warrior"
Eren "I keep moving forward to destroy my enemies"
Nahid mentions North Korea a lot and I'm beginning to question his sources.
haha xD
When Reiner sees Eren...
Me: in that momment he knew that he fck up.
That vogel I'm kafig mix was dope when you guys were discussing ❤❤❤
Holding Reiner's hand had nothing to do with anything except acknowledging that he has no choice and has to do what he has to do just like Riener had to do. It was to close the parallels they've been drawing between Eren and Reiner for the past 2 episodes. The cut on Erens's hand was to have something to hold against Reiner. Incase Reiner started something, he would be able to transform immediately instead of having to cut himself or bite his thumb off.
Perfect episode, suspense was masterful with it just being great dialog.
To be fair, the simple fact Eren and company have infiltrated the country for years in preparation to crumble it, only proves Willy’s point that Eren is a problem that they needed to stop.
Well they infiltrated Erens country first. So both are kind of bad.
if the Tybur family were not dumbfucks and had not allowed Marley to oppress eldians and had not allowed Marley to invade Paradise island. they wouldn't be in this situation
Willy was actually wrong. Eren's group infiltrated to gather information and see what it was like first, which is when they realized these people were similar. In fact, without spoiling, they never would've attacked if Willy hadn't declared war.
Just infiltrating is not evil in ANY way. "Oh you stepped foot on this continent, so you are evil and have to die!"
What? No way, dood
Yes as if they were not the ones fucking things up by sending the titans to Paradias and treating the eldians like trash... Eren is not doing this for fun
My heart was going as fast as that Midnight Train the entirety of the episode man.
Just to correct you, its not 7 its 9 titans: Founding, Attack, Female, Armored, Collosal, Beast, Cart, Jaw and War Hammer
How is Colossal one of the 9 if we learned this episode there are multiple Colossal Titans? Like I thought one of the 9 had to be a unique type of Titan but apparently the walls are made of Colossal Titans.
@@SparaticSpartan those colossal titans are made by king Fritz they cant change back into human and cant do nuke, they are not same
@@SparaticSpartan That is a forced transformation, not a transformation by one of the 9. They're all collossal, MINDLESS titans.
17:40 eren picked up reiner to parallel the scene in episode 3 this season when reiner picked him up and told him to move forward. he did it to show that that was the moment where he realized that they were the same since they both choose to move forward for their own reasons.
Eren made his palm bleed to threaten Reiner to a conversation. Remember once he cuts himself he can transform at will at any point and Reiner doesn't want Falco to get caught up in it.
I started watching it when it came out in 2013 (I was still a kid at the time) and I'm alive to see this Masterpiece being adapted for animation to this day, which is an extremely heavy and complicated story to deal with that has no cliché elements. that I would instantly guarantee a profit from all the massive majority of series and anime that comes every year, is undoubtedly a privilege that I will carry for the rest of my life ...
Willy: I declare war on the devils of Paradis!
Eren: Cowabunga it is.
Willy: Peace was never an option
Eren: I agree
Like, the Royal family just seemed to believe that they could never make up for all of their sins that they did to masses of people, and if this was their end, then so be it. But then you got folk like Eren saying "do I not matter? do my friend's lives not matter? should it just end because the rest of the world fears our existence?!" And they gonna want to act like the victims of this attack, even though they all just gave an applause in agreement of full blown attacking this island of people who's been tormented by Titan's for a century. Like nah, y'all going down!
I just want to say that this is the best discussion I've seen of them recently, compared to others from different reactions. It just exposes that they are really enjoying this show.
Kakashi sensei you should use your sharingan instead of talk no jutsu
Like his student 😂
Is the dubber of willy is the same dubber of kakashi?? Wtf i knew it haha
@The Normies yeah this whole episode was just crazy!!!!
Eren only decided to transform after hearing the declaration
They go too deep with the shaking hand lmao 😂
I going to keep moving forward until all my enemies are destroyed
I kept checking to see when you guys would upload! My heart was racccinngggg this episode!
Willy : declared the war by speech to be formal. Eren : declared the war by hand shaking to be formal 😂