I even remember that before this episode came out there already was a skit in the internet, fanart, of this scene just using images from manga and with YouSeeBigGirl bgm. I was at some point ahead in the manga just not completely caught up so I didn't mind the spoiler but it was cool.
@@CarterAndrusBro how does it feel finally being able to interact with the comments without worrying about S4 spoilers?? Manga's still complete though, so beware
@@earthing3696 No lol. The world was only scared of Paradis because of Eren, not Eldians on Paradis. And they had a right to be especially since the rumbling actually happened in the end.
I find it so ironic when Falco said to Eren "You tricked me, and here i respected you..." That is exactly how Eren felt back when Reiner and Bertholdt betrayed them.
There is a reason why eren waited for tybur to finish his line “Declare War on paradise with the world forces” he told and signified that the ones starting this war were the world and the marley while Eren is just fighting back from Paradise’s side which is a helpless undeveloped nation .
Fun fact, when episode 5 "Declaration of War" aired it blew up so fast that the #declarationofwar started trending on twitter with 100's of thousands of tweets and the people who don't watch anime actually thought a war had started in real life
9:28 Reiner just sat there, because he wanted to be judged. That's why he was remembering what Bertholdt said to them about the old guy who confessed before comitting suicide. Reiner's guilt has been eating him from the inside out.
which is why he tried killing himself but he couldn't... this show is on another level... i have group of friends who watch this anime.. and sometimes once the topic starts, god it's 4am and we still wouldn't stop talking...
@@theeddytor3490 i had this once with naruto but we were doing drugs lol. spend the whole night opening another tab in the naruto wiki to check out something we already know about
@Loz We all know that. Reverse card is just a funny joke. Also Eren didn't "take the bait" he just did what he was always planning to do. They both won this round as you said. but ultimately Willy underestimated Eren and Paradis which led to where we are now. It was for the most part a silly plan in retrospect
I mean it's for sure a good episode but i can think of several other (imo) better episodes than this one, that don't have action or have very little action. 3x18, 3x20, 4x20, 4x21, 4x28.
The parallels in episode 5 are out of this world. We saw Eren's face light up and change when Willy mentioned that he doesn't want to die "because i was born into this world". Those are the exact same words Carla told Keith Shadis when he asked what was special about Eren back in Season 3. The parallel of it now being Reiner begging for mercy and not being able to do anything, while Eren finds himself in the same position that Reiner found himself in back in s1. As Eren said himself "i keep moving forwards until i destroy my enemies". He has no other choice but fight for Paradis's freedom and most importantly his own freedom.
It’s literally my favourite part of this episode when Eren heard Willy saying „because I was born into this world“ and he immediately blinks bc it’s literally his character based phrase
There's a lot of ways to interpret it too. Most people think that eren's eyes reacted in that way because he's heard/experienced those words before, but another way to look at it is eren reacted that way because he's seen the future. He knows willy says that and when it's confirmed he reacts that way. I mean throughout the entire show, eren slowly comes to accept his fate by reaffirming occurences. For example, when sasha died, he asked what she said, and connie confirmed she said "meat." Another PRIME example is when Mikasa says they're family instead of admitting her love for him, that was his breaking point. While the first option could be right (eren just solely reacting to those words because he's heard them before) there's other ways to look at it. The more I've watched this show (especially the new Season 4 part 3 ep) I've realized that eren is a slave to his own fate, throughout the show he's begging and looking for another path, but everything just confirms that this was the only way
@Evan Bell Eren doesn't see everything, zeke confirmed that, so idk if he heard those words before. I've heard other ppl say, and I agree, that Eren was thinking maybe the future was changing and willy could understand him, but the declaration of war was the last time Eren believe that was possible.
That conversation between Reiner and Eren and the declaration of war happening simultaneously is probably one of my favourite scene from this episode, even more so than the end epic transformation.
@@kartikeytyagi2330 As i said "most importantly his own freedom". And i didn't want to say it because it's a spoiler but he is fighting for his friends aswell. We literally learn that in a few episodes from this one now
This episode was what made me realize that this is genuinely the BEST show I’ve EVER watched. Everything about it was just so on point, every word, every action, the meaning it has, it’s perfect. What I’d do to watch this episode for the first time again
The fact that Eren reaches out for Reiner is so subtly beautiful in my opinion. As Eren mentioned, he sees himself the same as Reiner. He could've just transformed right there when Reiner was on his knees. But he helped him get up. Because now he knows what Reiner felt while killing all those people. As these videos are recorded ahead of time so there's no spoiler issue anymore. Eren has already seen and felt himself massacring the world. He knows how agonising it is even before committing the act. That's why he can relate to Reiner. Though it won't feel like that to Reiner, but Eren still thinks of Reiner in the same way. The older brother figure. That's why he chatted with him for so long before attacking. He kind of misses their friendship deep down. Only those two can understand one another. The sin of commiting genocide against their wishes. Eren helping Reiner up after that chat is letting Reiner know that he isn't alone and someone is there for him. But at the end of the day, both have different goals and the must fight. Like Bertholdt said, "you are my precious comrades. I also intend to kill you."
I interpreted that scene a slightly differently, at this point eren knows he is going to destroy the place , kill a lot of people, innocent or otherwise, it's his first act of violence against people who he knows are innocent. So he is not only showing empathy to Reiner, he is trying to justify to himself what he is about to do, He wanted Reiner to tell him they had no other choice, he was practically pushing him to say it, so that he can justify that he doesn't have any choice either. Eren looks shocked when Riener tells him that there was a way, they could have turned back after Marcel was eaten.
Another detail to point out: that whole stage play was set inside the internment zone which means the building that Eren just decimated was full of Eldian families
“You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight (2008). The greatest moral dilemma of humanity.
This episode is so wild, that when anime randomly came up at work the one time, my general manager and I both got hyped over just the memory of the episode. He went from a boss to feeling like one of the boys. This show does wild shit like that.
Will never get over just how beautiful the writing is. That conversation between Reiner and Eren is one of my favourite scenes ever. It is so well done. Eren realising he and Reiner are the same, but have to do what he has to. Nothing was going to stop him from that. Even the most recent episode we see what lead him to this. It's all just so epic 😩
They look so into it. Like they remember the plot and names and stuff which means theyre actually paying attention to it and seem excited to watch a new episode everytime
11:07 Hypocrisy of Willy Tybur "But I do not wish to die. And that is because I was born into this world". Eren always believed that Freedom is everyone's birth right and now Marley just wants to wipe out Paradis and take away their right to even live. Marley and the Tybur family just without any question deemed people of Paradis as evil and believed that they should be wiped out before they get chance to get the power to defeat others. That is why Eren's eyes widened in this scene. Marley talks about saving the world but in reality they just want to steal the power of founding titan and ice burst stone resources. Marley wanted to maintain their absolute power throughout the globe. After when the technology had advanced enough, Marley would commit their own genocide over the Eldians enslaved in Marley as they would have lost their use.
About the discussion at the end, in my opinion, them stating they wouldn't start the rumbling would have no affect whatsoever. Everyone learned about the rumbling in this episode, so then, why were the Eldians treated like trash before? Why are they called devils? How would they even prove they wouldn't unleash the rumbling? It was just one of the many excuses the outside world hides behind to hate on the Eldians and make their lives hell. They are afraid of what they can't understand and can't even comprehend that THEY are the ones turning these poor people into titans. Who the heck thinks Eldians would want to turn into pure titans or turn their own people into them? Paradis here is fighting to survive, because they have no other choice, because the world has already made up its mind, because nothing they could say would change their approach, and because they declared war first with a representative from everywhere around the world. And Eren feels he has no choice but destruction, that it's either Paradis or the rest of the world, because he has not been able to see one glimpse of hope for their future all those years. And it hurts me.😭😭
What people learned was that the rumbling threat was a lie but they did know about it. For a hundred years the world had to live in the fear that at any moment thousands of colossal titans could be unleashed to flatten the world. In our world even the super closed off and dangerous country that is North Korea make you feel like it can be reasoned with because they keep contact with the rest of the civilisation. Paradis was completely closed off, of course people would start to feel paranoid when the last message for a 100 years from a super dangerous nation is a threat. Add to that the previous 1800 years of atrocities from them and the 100 years from Marley and it's completely understandable. No matter how nice you are towards Eldians, no matter how much you or they themselves think of them as friends and allies, you only need the whims of a single king to have them transform into giant man-eating monsters.
Seeing this episode and the exchange between Eren and Reiner, makes the little speech Bertholdt made before that epic final transformation with Appleseed playing in the background, even more meaningful. “That’s right. Nobody’s in the wrong. There was just nothing we could do. Because this world… *is just that cruel* . “ God I love this show so much.
Something I noticed, when Reiner says 'kill me', Eren replies "we are the same" That has a whole different meaning now, after we see S4 part 3 part 1, doesn't it?
So really pay attention to Tybur's speech. It's not just the fact that Eren is unpredictable. They need a scapegoat they need an enemy for the world to hate. He's using the island devils and Eren as a misdirect so people will forget that he just told them that the Tyburs and Marley have lied to them this whole time. This whole time they thought the Tyburs and Marley banned together to chase King Fritz and his followers to the island when it was really King Fritz who wanted peace and came up with this plan for Marley and the Tyburs with the false hero Helos. Right after he revealed that people in the audience started questioning whether or not the people on the island are devils, meaning if he had just taken accountability for it all there could be a peaceful talk but instead he chose to pretend to take accountability while gaining sympathy because they have been fighting against a lunatic named Eren who is unpredictable and stole the female titan and colossal from them and wants to stomp the world out. He did a political switcharoo. Yeah i lied to you BUT there are actual BAD GUYS over there so it's not like we're completely wrong for trying to fight them.
Total political switcheroo indeed. It's the pivot from "We didn't do that" to "We did that cause the alternative was worse." If any conspiracy about JFK or 9-11 etc. ever turns out to be true, it's exactly how the CIA will respond.
2:07 lmao I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did but just look at these two.😂 2:04 The difference between behavioral pattern of Cannon & Carter and McKay & Brig over here is just... lol. Carter and Cannon thinking that guard leading Pieck and Galliard was Armin? Thank goodness it wasn't just me.😭👏🏼
Being back in the office makes it hard to watch these in the mornings... but better late than never! So excited to see how far yall have come in this series. ❤️ Attack on Titan is one of the best shows ever... at least in my opinion lol
Another interesting detail I just realized about this episode that helps to foster debate and confusion: Eren begins his transformation BEFORE the declaration of war, but it's timed such that he actually completes the transformation and starts his attack AFTER the declaration of war. Therefore, anyone watching can debate whether Eren did or did not properly wait for a formal declaration of war before launching a pre-emptive counterattack. Eren is surely taking the initiative here, but whether or not he is justified according to international politics is riiiiiight on the border of what's permissible.
OMG I will never forget THE RAGE that was going on in Twitter. Everyone was going feral tweeting #declarationofwar that other people thought WW3 started and started asking who Eren was HAHAHAHHAA
Honestly, you guys are some of the first and only people I‘ve seen that seem to really understand this scene and also Eren and Reiners motivations in general. Some people think they had no choice (which is true to some extent) but really, they wanted to do what they did. Eren gives Reiner an out but he “confesses“ nontheless and Eren lets him know that he will do the same thing. They are so incredibly well written and these commentarys by you are really entertining :)
"Im the same as you" is so cool because the whole convo eren is trying to bait Reiner to admit why he destroyed the wall, at first he says to save the world, but after some pushing he admits its because he wanted respect and to be a hero, now Eren says as he though he's the same as Reiner because Eren isn't doing the rumbling to save everyone on the island, its cuz he was disappointed in the outside world and wanted it to be like armins book, that's what was revealed in newest ep, at least that's what I take from it...
one of the best written episodes in aot history. the parallels of eren and reiner, tybur retelling the tale, eren revealing his current power. AHAJSHSJSH I CNAT GET ENOUGH OF AOT AND I'VE WATCHED IT OVER 3 TIMES NOW
@@mohammedgargum9603 Payback and revenge can still make you the bad guy depending on your view of justice. Is it really justified to be slaughtering innocents and brainwashed people? To some people yes, to others no. This is pretty much how wars start.
@@mohammedgargum9603 in this context Eren is the bad guy, to Gabi and co at least. They don’t know what happened within the walls, we do, hence we’re on Eren’s side. Though at this point it’s post-Ramzi, he had already resolved to smite the world including all the innocents outside Marley.
@@mohammedgargum9603 The "they initiated and attacked first" doesn't really work. This is a war that's been going on for over 2,000 years. There will never be an end if they always goes with the "but they did it first", just accept that people from the past were pigshit and educate everyone to not be like them
Pretty savage how Eren waited until the official declaration before transforming, as if to say, “You asked for this now. We are officially enemies. And I keep moving forward, to destroy my enemies.”
LMAOOOOOOOO that sudden realization that the episode was about to end was so hilarious XD also btw the best cut ive seen of this was a clip where they made eren smile and it was actually a hilarious thumbnail
From the first chapter they show you how traumatized Eren is by the death of his mother, and this is seen until the end, and that trauma turns into an even greater hatred for all the friends he is losing over time in front of him. from his eyes helplessly. Then finding out that those titans are actually people forced to become those monsters by people outside the island is another reason to hate them even more. Unfortunately, the humans never wanted to reach an agreement, they simply decided to eliminate them all, something that Eren again cannot let go. You can't let them rule over your life again, that once again take away your options, your freedom. I get it, unfortunately his friends don't..
even though we only had few marley-centric episodes, it's enough to be able to empathize with its people especially the eldians trapped in liberio. because imagine if we went straight to eren attacking them in s4 without knowing what we know now, we'd just be blindly cheering him on because we would see this as revenge for what they all went through in paradis.
@@cupuacu4life13 Gabi is an amazing character who is so similar to Eren except she chose to give up on her hate. If you are hating on a brainwashed kid then idk what to even tell you
It's hilarious... from rewatching this, I just realized. AoT and GoT have so many parallels, but AoT just really succeeds by really following the narrative. Eren going mad and burning the world down is pretty much exactly Daenerys' Mad Queen path, but literally the whole show is about this one moment where Eren is so ready to forgive, but everything that's happened to him and that's happening politically won't let him. He only has one real choice, kill them all. He can't give up, he can't just lay down and die so everyone continues to be oppressed or used as a war tool.
Absolutely! Danearys' path to madness felt rushed, and it ruined her character for me. Though there were subtle hints coming to it, the execution transitioning her to madness was done in such a way her actions felt unjustified. I absolutely hated the last season as a result and ruined one of the best characters in fiction for me. Eren's decision felt so justified you just can't help feeling tempted to support his actions even though through a wide scope, it is a terrible action. The tragic path of Eren was set up and executed so perfectly, that we cannot fathom with the thought of disliking Eren though his actions are so despicable. He is the perfect embodiment of love and hate at the same time. All his actions are justified for the love and hope for his people yet the hate and dolm for the world for persecuting and taking away the freedom of his people.
Btw, last episode I remember you guys said something about how much of the show Isayama thought of before writing it, the answer is ALL of it, he said he had the whole show thought up, dudes an absolute genius
That's what it's about: Not having villains or heroes. Everyone is fighting for their prospects. That's why this show is so good, it's so realistic like in our world. Everyone is fighting for their own point of view
Can I just say that as reactors, you guys are so great! You don't pause mid episode (or very rarely do) which ruins the pacing, you are so into it that you can remember your thoughts at end, you keep genuine reactions during the episode and speculation and discussion strictly after. It makes watching with you guys such a treat! Genuinely looking forward to seeing your reactions to the rest of this season!
It's too late now because you're so far ahead but people often fail to note that while Marleyan's are present at this event including their top military leaders as well as other prominent people from nations across the world this entire thing is actually taking place inside the Liberio Internment Zone so it is primarily Eldians in the surrounding area including everyone in that building that Eren just destroyed.
Attack on Titan isn't a perfectly written story (nor does it have to be; a work of art is only as perfect as its creator), but it's still easily one of my favorite stories of all-time. The sheer and raw emotional impact it delivers... My jaw is constantly dropping. I will FOREVER geek over this fucking anime man
this episod one of my favorit. pumping up the scene and Eren's last words before becoming a titan - it kills me. and the voiceover of this moment in my native language has been stuck in my head for a very long time
This episode of AoT has so many parallels with the GoT episode Winds of Winter. Despite being one of the few good GoT episodes after S4, AoT pulls it off even better and in 1/3 of the runtime. Eren’s ‘entrance’ to Marley is built up with the same level of tension and intrigue in GoT that culminated in Cersei blowing up the Sept of Baelor and those due to sentence her. While being one of the first times we question Eren’s moral compass for the killing of innocents, the sequence of events that unfold to reveal the malevolent scheme at hand have such a righteous tone to them that feels so much more impactful than Cersei’s vengeful retribution arc. By the end of GoT we learn Cersei will burn a lot of things to the ground, Jon Snow has a queen and knows nothing (like some weird allegory on the life of a worker ant), and some punk kid’s story of succumbing to paralysis later combined with psychic abilities is apparently peak compelling storytelling (while somehow weirdly also being completely derivative of Professor X or Mr Glass in Unbreakable). AoT engaged with similar plot devices, but as an anime was yet so much more relatable, on what it had to say about things like inter-generational trauma, ethnic persecution and history’s cyclical nature.
I was sooooo hyped when this episode came out!! 🤣 Before watching it, i have to rewatch from the beginning just to refresh all heartache and badass moments.
I could watch an entire 4 hour movie of just Eren and Reiner having a talk in a single room❤️ Make sure the next upload's a triple feature guys.........it has to be.
9:19 eren tried to make reiner understand his point, but reiner kept answering what eren didn’t want to hear, so eren kept asking questions to hear the answer he wanted from reiner, so that reiner could understand him
2:20 They were so shocked how eren, falco and reiner got to that basement. Because you guys didn't watch the hidden scene in the end credits of Episode 4 before going to episode 5.
when you guys upload the whole reactions, you should do a compilation of every ''to be continued...'' I want to see how many angry Nooo and coushin punches theere were xd
I remember people who don't know aot freaked out when "Declaration of War" was trending on Twitter 😂
those were good times lmaooo
@@jem9490 still remembered those "YouSeeBIGGIRL" meme for that declaration of war moment
@@distrillbe1928 I remember this 😂 people complaining about the choice of music for that scene
yeah remember that
I even remember that before this episode came out there already was a skit in the internet, fanart, of this scene just using images from manga and with YouSeeBigGirl bgm. I was at some point ahead in the manga just not completely caught up so I didn't mind the spoiler but it was cool.
Reiner : Just kill me!
Eren : No!
Willy : I do not wish to die!
Eren : No!
Man's just denying wishes out here
😂😂😂
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idk why i laughed so hard hahahahaha
Eren: ask and you shall never receive 💀
"Eren is the bad guy"
"No"
And the morality argument starts. I love this show
Oh yes, this is just the beginning of the conversation between cannon and I 😂😂😂
Spoiler!
Eren was right! the ending was stupid and it was all for no reason.. ahhhh!!!
@@CarterAndrusBro how does it feel finally being able to interact with the comments without worrying about S4 spoilers??
Manga's still complete though, so beware
@@earthing3696 No lol. The world was only scared of Paradis because of Eren, not Eldians on Paradis. And they had a right to be especially since the rumbling actually happened in the end.
Very reminiscent to Game of Thrones. Gray characters. Love it.
I find it so ironic when Falco said to Eren "You tricked me, and here i respected you..."
That is exactly how Eren felt back when Reiner and Bertholdt betrayed them.
bro i see you in many reaction channels its crazy
There is a reason why eren waited for tybur to finish his line “Declare War on paradise with the world forces” he told and signified that the ones starting this war were the world and the marley while Eren is just fighting back from Paradise’s side which is a helpless undeveloped nation .
@@cirqueyeagerist5641 fighting back and literally genocide is completely opposite.
SO CRAZY, this shows narrative is just too good
@@Soullxc i am everywhere 🌚
Fun fact, when episode 5 "Declaration of War" aired it blew up so fast that the #declarationofwar started trending on twitter with 100's of thousands of tweets and the people who don't watch anime actually thought a war had started in real life
Lmao, I remember this. It even made into our local television news that trending hashtag hahaha
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh my gosh 😂😂😂 that is literally insane
I remember this.. saw a few news articles
its too trending, even Russian trying to make it irl 💀
9:28 Reiner just sat there, because he wanted to be judged. That's why he was remembering what Bertholdt said to them about the old guy who confessed before comitting suicide. Reiner's guilt has been eating him from the inside out.
which is why he tried killing himself but he couldn't... this show is on another level... i have group of friends who watch this anime.. and sometimes once the topic starts, god it's 4am and we still wouldn't stop talking...
@@theeddytor3490 That's wholesome
@@theeddytor3490 i had this once with naruto but we were doing drugs lol. spend the whole night opening another tab in the naruto wiki to check out something we already know about
@@kriegnes that’s slightly less wholesome
So true, he is unbelievably traumatized from his experiences.
Marley: "We shall declare war on Eren Yeager."
Eren: "And I took that personally."
😂😂
Fastest Uno reverse card in history
Willy: Declares war on Paradis
Eren: OK cool *proceeds to attack*
There is a reason why people likes to call him attack Titan more than founding Titan
Eren: Uno reverse card
@Loz We all know that. Reverse card is just a funny joke.
Also Eren didn't "take the bait" he just did what he was always planning to do. They both won this round as you said. but ultimately Willy underestimated Eren and Paradis which led to where we are now. It was for the most part a silly plan in retrospect
Willy: declares war on Paradis
Eren: ok. *my turn.*
@@nocandy4u3 r/woosh
Arguably the best episode of the series while having no action sequence in the entire episode.
Truly a masterpiece.
Two brothers, memories of the future, from you 2000 years ago, final chapters 1 part 3 is better.
I mean it's for sure a good episode but i can think of several other (imo) better episodes than this one, that don't have action or have very little action. 3x18, 3x20, 4x20, 4x21, 4x28.
@@CGRADT hero (3x17) is in my opinion the best 20 minutes of anime ever made
4×20 laughs in freedom
@@tj778 Midnight Sun is even better than Hero, imo
Tybur: “Because I was born into this world!”
Eren: “Heyyyy that’s my line :( get ate”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Eren inherited the line from eating Tybur.
@@groaningwolf wait FR???
@@aight_lol no
The parallels in episode 5 are out of this world. We saw Eren's face light up and change when Willy mentioned that he doesn't want to die "because i was born into this world". Those are the exact same words Carla told Keith Shadis when he asked what was special about Eren back in Season 3. The parallel of it now being Reiner begging for mercy and not being able to do anything, while Eren finds himself in the same position that Reiner found himself in back in s1. As Eren said himself "i keep moving forwards until i destroy my enemies". He has no other choice but fight for Paradis's freedom and most importantly his own freedom.
It’s literally my favourite part of this episode when Eren heard Willy saying „because I was born into this world“ and he immediately blinks bc it’s literally his character based phrase
There's a lot of ways to interpret it too. Most people think that eren's eyes reacted in that way because he's heard/experienced those words before, but another way to look at it is eren reacted that way because he's seen the future. He knows willy says that and when it's confirmed he reacts that way. I mean throughout the entire show, eren slowly comes to accept his fate by reaffirming occurences. For example, when sasha died, he asked what she said, and connie confirmed she said "meat." Another PRIME example is when Mikasa says they're family instead of admitting her love for him, that was his breaking point. While the first option could be right (eren just solely reacting to those words because he's heard them before) there's other ways to look at it. The more I've watched this show (especially the new Season 4 part 3 ep) I've realized that eren is a slave to his own fate, throughout the show he's begging and looking for another path, but everything just confirms that this was the only way
@Evan Bell Eren doesn't see everything, zeke confirmed that, so idk if he heard those words before. I've heard other ppl say, and I agree, that Eren was thinking maybe the future was changing and willy could understand him, but the declaration of war was the last time Eren believe that was possible.
That conversation between Reiner and Eren and the declaration of war happening simultaneously is probably one of my favourite scene from this episode, even more so than the end epic transformation.
@@kartikeytyagi2330 As i said "most importantly his own freedom". And i didn't want to say it because it's a spoiler but he is fighting for his friends aswell. We literally learn that in a few episodes from this one now
This episode was what made me realize that this is genuinely the BEST show I’ve EVER watched. Everything about it was just so on point, every word, every action, the meaning it has, it’s perfect. What I’d do to watch this episode for the first time again
In my opinion. there is nothing that can come close to this story and there never will be
The fact that Eren reaches out for Reiner is so subtly beautiful in my opinion. As Eren mentioned, he sees himself the same as Reiner. He could've just transformed right there when Reiner was on his knees. But he helped him get up. Because now he knows what Reiner felt while killing all those people. As these videos are recorded ahead of time so there's no spoiler issue anymore. Eren has already seen and felt himself massacring the world. He knows how agonising it is even before committing the act. That's why he can relate to Reiner. Though it won't feel like that to Reiner, but Eren still thinks of Reiner in the same way. The older brother figure. That's why he chatted with him for so long before attacking. He kind of misses their friendship deep down. Only those two can understand one another. The sin of commiting genocide against their wishes. Eren helping Reiner up after that chat is letting Reiner know that he isn't alone and someone is there for him. But at the end of the day, both have different goals and the must fight. Like Bertholdt said, "you are my precious comrades. I also intend to kill you."
I interpreted that scene a slightly differently, at this point eren knows he is going to destroy the place , kill a lot of people, innocent or otherwise, it's his first act of violence against people who he knows are innocent. So he is not only showing empathy to Reiner, he is trying to justify to himself what he is about to do, He wanted Reiner to tell him they had no other choice, he was practically pushing him to say it, so that he can justify that he doesn't have any choice either. Eren looks shocked when Riener tells him that there was a way, they could have turned back after Marcel was eaten.
@@satyanarayanbera7659 Except he wasn't really shocked. He's experienced that exact moment God knows how many times
@@satyanarayanbera7659 "eren knows hes going to" dude. he can literally just go home and not do any of it lol.
Am i reading all of that?...
@@JabariJabs you should
Another detail to point out: that whole stage play was set inside the internment zone which means the building that Eren just decimated was full of Eldian families
The fact this episode isnt a reaction to 5 and 6 is the real evil LMAO
“You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight (2008).
The greatest moral dilemma of humanity.
2:23 McKay and Brig's "oh it's happening" "here it comes" face...
fucking love them both covering their smiles 😭😭
This episode is fantastic. The penny dropping for Reiner and Falco, the tension that builds to an inevitable conclusion. The declaration of war.
Guys you're KILLING me. I need to see 3 episodes per video, I NEED MORE REACTIONS. AHHHHHH!
This episode is so wild, that when anime randomly came up at work the one time, my general manager and I both got hyped over just the memory of the episode. He went from a boss to feeling like one of the boys. This show does wild shit like that.
Haha my manager literally has a Colossal Titan profile pic in our company social net
He's a cool guy tho
Woa I wish I had that cool boss.
I love the fact that Willy's final word "War" is timed with Eren's titan roar, so epic.
12:22 Oh stop it Cannon, i've heard you say that like 100 times during this show 🤣🤣
😂😂😂 this shows ability to just continually make us say this just goes to show how great it is
@@StudioGek Those were my exact toughts when making the comment 🤣
hey man it just continues!!
Will never get over just how beautiful the writing is. That conversation between Reiner and Eren is one of my favourite scenes ever. It is so well done. Eren realising he and Reiner are the same, but have to do what he has to. Nothing was going to stop him from that. Even the most recent episode we see what lead him to this. It's all just so epic 😩
The fact that the whole Twitter and world was in Chaos when this ep came out and #declarationofwar was on trend 😂
The hype at the end of this episode is like the best one in the whole show. It give me goosebumps after watching it twice before.
Missing that end credit scene before this is tragic
@@kingkazma30 i mean 😭 they've seen it now so i don't see the point in crying about it but to each their own ig
@@baekhyunbuttersmyeggrolls8273 yeah, but still, it's tragic.
I think it's better this way, personally.
They look so into it. Like they remember the plot and names and stuff which means theyre actually paying attention to it and seem excited to watch a new episode everytime
11:07 Hypocrisy of Willy Tybur "But I do not wish to die. And that is because I was born into this world".
Eren always believed that Freedom is everyone's birth right and now Marley just wants to wipe out Paradis and take away their right to even live. Marley and the Tybur family just without any question deemed people of Paradis as evil and believed that they should be wiped out before they get chance to get the power to defeat others. That is why Eren's eyes widened in this scene.
Marley talks about saving the world but in reality they just want to steal the power of founding titan and ice burst stone resources. Marley wanted to maintain their absolute power throughout the globe. After when the technology had advanced enough, Marley would commit their own genocide over the Eldians enslaved in Marley as they would have lost their use.
exactly, I was so angry with the Tybur family
"I feel like Eren's the bad guy"
"NO!"
AOT debates in a nutshell 😂
About the discussion at the end, in my opinion, them stating they wouldn't start the rumbling would have no affect whatsoever. Everyone learned about the rumbling in this episode, so then, why were the Eldians treated like trash before? Why are they called devils? How would they even prove they wouldn't unleash the rumbling? It was just one of the many excuses the outside world hides behind to hate on the Eldians and make their lives hell. They are afraid of what they can't understand and can't even comprehend that THEY are the ones turning these poor people into titans. Who the heck thinks Eldians would want to turn into pure titans or turn their own people into them? Paradis here is fighting to survive, because they have no other choice, because the world has already made up its mind, because nothing they could say would change their approach, and because they declared war first with a representative from everywhere around the world. And Eren feels he has no choice but destruction, that it's either Paradis or the rest of the world, because he has not been able to see one glimpse of hope for their future all those years. And it hurts me.😭😭
What people learned was that the rumbling threat was a lie but they did know about it. For a hundred years the world had to live in the fear that at any moment thousands of colossal titans could be unleashed to flatten the world. In our world even the super closed off and dangerous country that is North Korea make you feel like it can be reasoned with because they keep contact with the rest of the civilisation.
Paradis was completely closed off, of course people would start to feel paranoid when the last message for a 100 years from a super dangerous nation is a threat. Add to that the previous 1800 years of atrocities from them and the 100 years from Marley and it's completely understandable.
No matter how nice you are towards Eldians, no matter how much you or they themselves think of them as friends and allies, you only need the whims of a single king to have them transform into giant man-eating monsters.
Seeing this episode and the exchange between Eren and Reiner, makes the little speech Bertholdt made before that epic final transformation with Appleseed playing in the background, even more meaningful.
“That’s right. Nobody’s in the wrong. There was just nothing we could do. Because this world… *is just that cruel* . “
God I love this show so much.
Something I noticed, when Reiner says 'kill me', Eren replies "we are the same" That has a whole different meaning now, after we see S4 part 3 part 1, doesn't it?
For real though. Eren out here really pulling a Lelouch :(
Exactly 😭
4:29 they've all assumed the 'I must concentrate' position lol
So really pay attention to Tybur's speech. It's not just the fact that Eren is unpredictable. They need a scapegoat they need an enemy for the world to hate. He's using the island devils and Eren as a misdirect so people will forget that he just told them that the Tyburs and Marley have lied to them this whole time. This whole time they thought the Tyburs and Marley banned together to chase King Fritz and his followers to the island when it was really King Fritz who wanted peace and came up with this plan for Marley and the Tyburs with the false hero Helos. Right after he revealed that people in the audience started questioning whether or not the people on the island are devils, meaning if he had just taken accountability for it all there could be a peaceful talk but instead he chose to pretend to take accountability while gaining sympathy because they have been fighting against a lunatic named Eren who is unpredictable and stole the female titan and colossal from them and wants to stomp the world out. He did a political switcharoo. Yeah i lied to you BUT there are actual BAD GUYS over there so it's not like we're completely wrong for trying to fight them.
Total political switcheroo indeed. It's the pivot from "We didn't do that" to "We did that cause the alternative was worse." If any conspiracy about JFK or 9-11 etc. ever turns out to be true, it's exactly how the CIA will respond.
Yhea I hate the Tyburs more than anyone in the story
2:07 lmao I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did but just look at these two.😂
2:04 The difference between behavioral pattern of Cannon & Carter and McKay & Brig over here is just... lol.
Carter and Cannon thinking that guard leading Pieck and Galliard was Armin? Thank goodness it wasn't just me.😭👏🏼
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I thought it was Armin as well 🥲
I thought it was Armin too. The only thing throwing me off was the height, I knew there was no way Armin grew that tall😆
I think every reactor I've watched has thought it was Armin. Despite the height and voice being utterly wrong 😆
Jackson is just so chill though 😂😂😂😂
Season 4 has to be one of the best seasons of anime. The story, the animation, and the music. The soundtrack in this show is just on another level.
Being back in the office makes it hard to watch these in the mornings... but better late than never! So excited to see how far yall have come in this series. ❤️ Attack on Titan is one of the best shows ever... at least in my opinion lol
So many elements, themes, motifs, and parallells exploding in this episode's climax. One of the most well constructed scenes I've ever seen.
when this episode aired and the hashtag "Declaration of War" trended. Everyone was in shambles 😭😭😭
the hashtag "declarationofwar" was trending on Twitter when this aired and non watchers were so worried lol
Favorite episode, favorite chapter, and it’s literally just a conversation.
Eren wasted no time attacking Marley after they declared war on Paradis💀
lol
i have never been more excited to see a reaction series ever
11:11 After hearing I WAS BORN INTO THIS WORLD,EREN'S facial expressions changes a little
Every time i rewatch this episode... it just gets better. What a masterwork...
That is the beauty of this show, how it made you think about who’s bad and good. Attack on Titan is a masterpiece♥️
Fastest response to a declaration of war I've ever seen.
Eren had the "Auto accept" mode on
Another interesting detail I just realized about this episode that helps to foster debate and confusion: Eren begins his transformation BEFORE the declaration of war, but it's timed such that he actually completes the transformation and starts his attack AFTER the declaration of war. Therefore, anyone watching can debate whether Eren did or did not properly wait for a formal declaration of war before launching a pre-emptive counterattack. Eren is surely taking the initiative here, but whether or not he is justified according to international politics is riiiiiight on the border of what's permissible.
“This has to be rated one of the best episodes already I know it” at 4:50 couldn’t be more true
OMG I will never forget THE RAGE that was going on in Twitter. Everyone was going feral tweeting #declarationofwar that other people thought WW3 started and started asking who Eren was HAHAHAHHAA
Honestly, you guys are some of the first and only people I‘ve seen that seem to really understand this scene and also Eren and Reiners motivations in general. Some people think they had no choice (which is true to some extent) but really, they wanted to do what they did. Eren gives Reiner an out but he “confesses“ nontheless and Eren lets him know that he will do the same thing. They are so incredibly well written and these commentarys by you are really entertining :)
"Im the same as you" is so cool because the whole convo eren is trying to bait Reiner to admit why he destroyed the wall, at first he says to save the world, but after some pushing he admits its because he wanted respect and to be a hero, now Eren says as he though he's the same as Reiner because Eren isn't doing the rumbling to save everyone on the island, its cuz he was disappointed in the outside world and wanted it to be like armins book, that's what was revealed in newest ep, at least that's what I take from it...
one of the best written episodes in aot history. the parallels of eren and reiner, tybur retelling the tale, eren revealing his current power. AHAJSHSJSH I CNAT GET ENOUGH OF AOT AND I'VE WATCHED IT OVER 3 TIMES NOW
so proud of you guys for reaching till here, im here with you guys in this journey and y'all are just killing it too good! love you guys❤️ 100k soon!
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12:38 "I feel like in this context, Eren is the bad guy for sure."
"No! No he's not!"
Oh Carter you sweet innocent child...
In this particular context yes he’s not the bad guy, I see it as an eye for an eye because they initiated and attacked first and that’s just payback
He’s not fuck marleyns
@@mohammedgargum9603 Payback and revenge can still make you the bad guy depending on your view of justice. Is it really justified to be slaughtering innocents and brainwashed people? To some people yes, to others no. This is pretty much how wars start.
@@mohammedgargum9603 in this context Eren is the bad guy, to Gabi and co at least. They don’t know what happened within the walls, we do, hence we’re on Eren’s side. Though at this point it’s post-Ramzi, he had already resolved to smite the world including all the innocents outside Marley.
@@mohammedgargum9603 The "they initiated and attacked first" doesn't really work. This is a war that's been going on for over 2,000 years. There will never be an end if they always goes with the "but they did it first", just accept that people from the past were pigshit and educate everyone to not be like them
The things studio gek is about to see is going to be my favorite reactions again probably. (I know they already up to date)
These next few videos 👀🍿
Pretty savage how Eren waited until the official declaration before transforming, as if to say, “You asked for this now. We are officially enemies. And I keep moving forward, to destroy my enemies.”
The next 2 episodes are arguably my favorite of the entire series. It's like watching a football game lol
LMAOOOOOOOO that sudden realization that the episode was about to end was so hilarious XD also btw the best cut ive seen of this was a clip where they made eren smile and it was actually a hilarious thumbnail
From the first chapter they show you how traumatized Eren is by the death of his mother, and this is seen until the end, and that trauma turns into an even greater hatred for all the friends he is losing over time in front of him. from his eyes helplessly. Then finding out that those titans are actually people forced to become those monsters by people outside the island is another reason to hate them even more. Unfortunately, the humans never wanted to reach an agreement, they simply decided to eliminate them all, something that Eren again cannot let go. You can't let them rule over your life again, that once again take away your options, your freedom. I get it, unfortunately his friends don't..
even though we only had few marley-centric episodes, it's enough to be able to empathize with its people especially the eldians trapped in liberio. because imagine if we went straight to eren attacking them in s4 without knowing what we know now, we'd just be blindly cheering him on because we would see this as revenge for what they all went through in paradis.
but isayama could have just not made that piece of sht gabi
Gabi gang!
@@cupuacu4life13 u mad gabi’s just better ahh
@@cupuacu4life13 Gabi is an amazing character who is so similar to Eren except she chose to give up on her hate.
If you are hating on a brainwashed kid then idk what to even tell you
@@jungkookwillbethedeathofme whatever 'just better' means anyway
I'm sure I'm not the only Brit that gets to enjoy this when it comes out at lunch time every day 😂 Best part of my work day
It's hilarious... from rewatching this, I just realized. AoT and GoT have so many parallels, but AoT just really succeeds by really following the narrative. Eren going mad and burning the world down is pretty much exactly Daenerys' Mad Queen path, but literally the whole show is about this one moment where Eren is so ready to forgive, but everything that's happened to him and that's happening politically won't let him. He only has one real choice, kill them all. He can't give up, he can't just lay down and die so everyone continues to be oppressed or used as a war tool.
Absolutely! Danearys' path to madness felt rushed, and it ruined her character for me. Though there were subtle hints coming to it, the execution transitioning her to madness was done in such a way her actions felt unjustified. I absolutely hated the last season as a result and ruined one of the best characters in fiction for me. Eren's decision felt so justified you just can't help feeling tempted to support his actions even though through a wide scope, it is a terrible action. The tragic path of Eren was set up and executed so perfectly, that we cannot fathom with the thought of disliking Eren though his actions are so despicable. He is the perfect embodiment of love and hate at the same time. All his actions are justified for the love and hope for his people yet the hate and dolm for the world for persecuting and taking away the freedom of his people.
Btw, last episode I remember you guys said something about how much of the show Isayama thought of before writing it, the answer is ALL of it, he said he had the whole show thought up, dudes an absolute genius
That’s literally insane!
That's what it's about: Not having villains or heroes. Everyone is fighting for their prospects. That's why this show is so good, it's so realistic like in our world. Everyone is fighting for their own point of view
Watching their anticipation build has been so satisfying to see 😭
This episode solidified its position as peak anime
Seasons 2 to 4 for the most part are peak TV
declaration of war still is one of my favorite episodes to this day
Can I just say that as reactors, you guys are so great! You don't pause mid episode (or very rarely do) which ruins the pacing, you are so into it that you can remember your thoughts at end, you keep genuine reactions during the episode and speculation and discussion strictly after. It makes watching with you guys such a treat!
Genuinely looking forward to seeing your reactions to the rest of this season!
Eren waiting for Willy to finish his speech by starting war against devil's of island right after eren spills the first blood it's so Epic
I feel the exact same way you guys feel and I’ve already seen it more than I can count! Lmao best anime ever
Another absolute slammer, always a ball watching y’all reaction videos!
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It's too late now because you're so far ahead but people often fail to note that while Marleyan's are present at this event including their top military leaders as well as other prominent people from nations across the world this entire thing is actually taking place inside the Liberio Internment Zone so it is primarily Eldians in the surrounding area including everyone in that building that Eren just destroyed.
Watching these reactions every morning before work, perfect timing for the upload. Cant wait to see your guys reaction season 4 pt 3.
Babe wake up studio gek just dropped a new video
HAHA love this😂😂😂😂😂😂
The tension is THICC! Masterfully done episode.🙏
I'm in "Eren is the bad guy" camp so I was happy to see one of the bois immediately come to that conclusion too lol
This ep blew up twitter
Attack on Titan isn't a perfectly written story (nor does it have to be; a work of art is only as perfect as its creator), but it's still easily one of my favorite stories of all-time. The sheer and raw emotional impact it delivers... My jaw is constantly dropping. I will FOREVER geek over this fucking anime man
this episode combined with the next one was one of my favorite parts of the show
Marley: this is a declaration of war!"
Eren: surprise b***!
Tybur declared war on Paradis Island and Eren answered immediately😂
Whoa I'm early 😍
I feel like Carter's the lead vocalist in a boyband with his outfit standing out among the boys. 🥰
this episod one of my favorit. pumping up the scene and Eren's last words before becoming a titan - it kills me.
and the voiceover of this moment in my native language has been stuck in my head for a very long time
The end morality arguments are only gonna get so much better haha
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Oooh I’ve been waiting for you guys to get to this episodes. The next one is just 🔥 🔥🔥
This episode of AoT has so many parallels with the GoT episode Winds of Winter. Despite being one of the few good GoT episodes after S4, AoT pulls it off even better and in 1/3 of the runtime.
Eren’s ‘entrance’ to Marley is built up with the same level of tension and intrigue in GoT that culminated in Cersei blowing up the Sept of Baelor and those due to sentence her. While being one of the first times we question Eren’s moral compass for the killing of innocents, the sequence of events that unfold to reveal the malevolent scheme at hand have such a righteous tone to them that feels so much more impactful than Cersei’s vengeful retribution arc.
By the end of GoT we learn Cersei will burn a lot of things to the ground, Jon Snow has a queen and knows nothing (like some weird allegory on the life of a worker ant), and some punk kid’s story of succumbing to paralysis later combined with psychic abilities is apparently peak compelling storytelling (while somehow weirdly also being completely derivative of Professor X or Mr Glass in Unbreakable). AoT engaged with similar plot devices, but as an anime was yet so much more relatable, on what it had to say about things like inter-generational trauma, ethnic persecution and history’s cyclical nature.
I was sooooo hyped when this episode came out!! 🤣 Before watching it, i have to rewatch from the beginning just to refresh all heartache and badass moments.
I could watch an entire 4 hour movie of just Eren and Reiner having a talk in a single room❤️
Make sure the next upload's a triple feature guys.........it has to be.
Yooo what up, makes my mornings so fun. Thx for uploading
Yessir!! Thank you for this comment
9:19 eren tried to make reiner understand his point, but reiner kept answering what eren didn’t want to hear, so eren kept asking questions to hear the answer he wanted from reiner, so that reiner could understand him
“plss let them.. it would be so sick if they join together”
eren” sike! transform*
That moment when it finally clicked what Eren meant by "I am the same as you, and I come for the same reasons as you" fuuuck I got chills.
i wish this was a double episode reaction waiting a week after this episode killed me this was an amazing episode
2:20 They were so shocked how eren, falco and reiner got to that basement. Because you guys didn't watch the hidden scene in the end credits of Episode 4 before going to episode 5.
Get your ODM gear ready! There is more action thriller coming up. But seriously the suspense was at its climax. An Absolutely legendary Anime 💯
Fun fact, Willy Tyburs last words "Boku no Sensou" is the title of the intro for this part of the season
11:43 my favourite scene. Eren's grand entrance
i always loved the fact eren pops up literally the second willy declares war on paradise 😂
when you guys upload the whole reactions, you should do a compilation of every ''to be continued...'' I want to see how many angry Nooo and coushin punches theere were xd