Why Toyota Engines are Reliable

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  • @pfmcdermott1
    @pfmcdermott1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +867

    The lack of introductory music/animation/delay is wonderfully refreshing. He goes right into substance. Thank you!!

    • @danwake4431
      @danwake4431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      WHATS UP GUYS

    • @andregonzales04
      @andregonzales04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Love it, I hate when videos have long ass intros and don't actually start content until like 5 minutes in hahha

    • @s4nder86
      @s4nder86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recommend the SponsorBlock addon to block that kind of filler content.

    • @pipedup
      @pipedup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boomer

    • @yihertz
      @yihertz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah I hate some annoying intros. if I want that I would watch television

  • @MuscatelTom
    @MuscatelTom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +783

    That toothbrush probably never imagined itself tearing engines apart and being a pointer

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Im an airplane mechanic.
      You'd be amazed how usefull, and commonly used, toothbrushes are in the field. 😂
      They're small so you can get almost anywhere with them, have firm but delicate plastic bristles, so you can use them on just about any material. Overall a great tool for any mechanic.

    • @GreenDriveIndia
      @GreenDriveIndia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same thoughts here,. We need to use toothbrush more places.,..

    • @ImNotADeeJay
      @ImNotADeeJay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That toothbrush has been around

    • @andycapp8843
      @andycapp8843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It was his wife’s, I understand he replaced it later after giving it a rinse.

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *taptap*
      *TAPTAPTAP*
      Me: "GIMME THAT! 🤬"

  • @russofamerica
    @russofamerica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I'm not a car nut, but I totally appreciate the density of information being dispensed here, and the slick editing that makes it pass so quickly. Great job, sir.

  • @JoveRogers97
    @JoveRogers97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I really appreciate how you narrate your actions and call things by name. It makes it easy to track what you're doing.
    "Now I'm going to remove a bunch of 12-mm bolts that hold this water pump on" vs. "Let's remove this."

  • @logon235
    @logon235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Thank you for sparing us from showing the unbolting of every bolt. It's amazing how extensive the technology tree for building a car engine. If society ever breaks down, we're not going to be making any of these for a long long time.

    • @domothepilot
      @domothepilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      even though the sound of the impact driver is highly satisfying when removing a bolt, i agree =)

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If the Greenies have their way, that'll be true anyway.

    • @logon235
      @logon235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KutWrite it will be replaced by other technologies, other supply chains. The real question is whether there would be enough jobs to replace the old ones.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@logon235 There never are, when technologies improves. But new jobs open up. Example: When cars took over from carriages. Buggy whip companies went out of business unless they adapted. But car parts needed to be made, repair stations, gas stations, etc.

    • @logon235
      @logon235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KutWrite and the electric cars or whatever, maybe flying cars will require the same. Petrol stations could be replaced by charging stations or something else entirely.

  • @H8er-Maker
    @H8er-Maker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +554

    So they can make a piece of plastic that doesn't melt sitting against cylinder walls but the door handles will become dust from sunshine...

    • @psycho3324
      @psycho3324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Sarcasm ikk but.
      Heat i would say may not affect thermoset plastics as much as the UV exposed cheapo ABS plastics they use for door handles.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Good call

    • @madunwerkstatt3093
      @madunwerkstatt3093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      They use different kind of plastic polymers on engine parts, generally able to withstand engine heat and repeated heat cycle without any deformation. On the otherside, ABS plastic is known to "evaporate" it's binding polymer if you keep it under direct sunlight and thus turned into dust-like appearances.
      Generally ABS is more forgiving to be painted rather than thermoplastics used inside engine compartment.

    • @rondhole
      @rondhole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The newer Camry has better plastics on the handle. The pre-2002 are notorious for becoming brittle. My Prius 2006, Sienna 2004, and Corolla 2016 has no issue on the plastics. Probably they find out how to make it better. In all newer Toyota engines, they have spacer from thermoplastic plastic or rubber inside the water jacket, that's why it reaches almost 40% thermal efficiency, the highest in the world.

    • @t.s.racing
      @t.s.racing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Too funny, the outside door handles on my Matrix break easier than a month old pretzel.

  • @BryanChance
    @BryanChance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    It seems like Toyota design their engines to be well lubricated; a sensible thing to do. Thanks for your awesome videos.

  • @kimmer6
    @kimmer6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    I would like to travel back in time to 1930 and set my laptop on Henry Ford's desk and play this video for him.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      That would be cool to see his reaction

    • @thetreblerebel
      @thetreblerebel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      The world would be driving nothing but Model Ts from the early 20th century ....

    • @sk8punk318
      @sk8punk318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@thetreblerebel no shit. He’s he just wants to show the improvement in Automotive technology

    • @listerine-pr5lt
      @listerine-pr5lt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Just by seeing your laptop technology you will cause Henry a heart attack and there won't be any chance to review Toyota engine.

    • @johnw4067
      @johnw4067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@speedkar99 He would be shocked to see how junky the new Fords are and how excellent the new Toyotas are in comparison.

  • @faeterov..
    @faeterov.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    Sometimes I wonder if this channel is a subliminal ad from the toothbrush brands to get me to change mine.

    • @pesomistic7656
      @pesomistic7656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I thought about that before, but he mentioned in a prior video he just likes to use his wife's toothbrush for dirty jobs like a real man do. I wonder how many times he slipped one back into the bathroom after a job.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      No

    • @faeterov..
      @faeterov.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@speedkar99 just joking my man. Love your videos.

    • @sergiykud
      @sergiykud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@faeterov.. i dunno man....i keep getting ads about products by "Brother" brand

    • @agapitometuerzo1506
      @agapitometuerzo1506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @JundaComputersGmbH
    @JundaComputersGmbH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    Speedkar99: Toyota engines are reliable
    Scotty Kilmer: That's right my grandson!
    😂😂😂

    • @Mohapi_Tau
      @Mohapi_Tau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wonder if Scotty still does things like engine rebuilds.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Im not related or associated. But I do drive Toyotas

    • @JundaComputersGmbH
      @JundaComputersGmbH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm a Toyota fanboy too! I love my old 2001 Toyota Corolla! I plan on joining the million mile Lexus/Toyota club with it!

    • @mplsfarmer
      @mplsfarmer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Mohapi_Tau Scotty admitted in one video before leaving Houston that he isn’t working as much on cars anymore because he doesn’t need to. He is semi-retired and picks and chooses the type of jobs he’s willing to do. That’s pretty normal for a guy who looks like he’s in his 70s.eventually as newer types of vehicles are manufactured, Scotty’s knowledge them will decrease because he won’t be able to keep up with all the new information about them. But who can keep up with all the variety of vehicles available today?

    • @Mohapi_Tau
      @Mohapi_Tau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mplsfarmer that seems to be reasonably true, especially that I haven't seen him tear down an engine, on any of his videos. Plus on some of his videos I've heard him complain about many of the modern cars, especially luxury cars, that manufacturers are building them to become too complicated for regular mechanics to work on them.

  • @carinapowered995
    @carinapowered995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The toothbrush is his trademark, that what distinguishes him from the rest, he is very knowledgeable, that goes without saying. I Enjoy you shows a lot.

    • @deanthompson9238
      @deanthompson9238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Without the toothbrush you might think it was chrisfix with a different voice

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taptap *fking* TAP

  • @g2skinny
    @g2skinny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dude I’m a mechanic for 25 yrs love your videos

    • @richmahogany1
      @richmahogany1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      i'm an alcoholic and I love his videos!

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks! Share on your network to spread the knowledge

  • @uhtred7860
    @uhtred7860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    "You can see how simple the timing chain setup is" shudders at the thought of an Audi 4.2 V8 timing chains setup.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Boy the Audi would make for a great coffee table

    • @uhtred7860
      @uhtred7860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@speedkar99 There certainly a lot going on with all those chains :-)

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Porsche with an IMS

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      But seriously... any single head engine is going to have a simple setup.
      _UNLESS_ it uses a pushrod design. That’s part of why GM and Dodge continue to use pushrods in the 21st century. One chain that’s far simpler than this one.
      Too bad about the roller lifters and cylinder deactivation, though.

    • @bujin5455
      @bujin5455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@speedkar99 It's a sad deal when a motor makes a better coffee table than an engine. LOL

  • @chriskappert1365
    @chriskappert1365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That twincam setup looks just like my
    80s Alfa 2 liter engine did .
    When maintained good and gently warmed up while cold ,
    it was INDESTRUCTABLE .

  • @trcs3079
    @trcs3079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Typical wear and tear, nothing major, relatively clean, well maintained and overall solid.
    That toothbrush will have many years of use!

  • @doktornorton859
    @doktornorton859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Long time viewer here. Just wanted to say I'm so proud of how far your channel has come. Hope you hit 1 million by the end of the year!

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks. Please share on your network so we can hit that soon!

  • @chuckycheese84
    @chuckycheese84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I used to have a 2013 Camry (bought new) with that exact same engine! I put approx 115,000 miles on it before trading it in for a new car. That engine still ran like the day i bought it.
    Aside from the usual (tires, oil, coolant and tranny fluid), I didn't have to spend a penny on repairs

    • @piggy310
      @piggy310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      115k is barely broken in in a Toyota.

  • @boydguie8129
    @boydguie8129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Wow,. It's nice to see my Camry engine all torwn apart. Nice work.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Awesome!

    • @davidorama6690
      @davidorama6690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Camrys are as boring as batshit yet one of the best cars money can buy.

    • @tacomas9602
      @tacomas9602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidorama6690 the new ones are stupid comfortable too

  • @Culumbu
    @Culumbu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Someday I will make my own video tearing down the engine of my old Toyota, this thing has been working for 40 years and still running like nothing happened inside it

    • @alenparker3056
      @alenparker3056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to hear, good luck!

    • @leancove9662
      @leancove9662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wats the milage?

    • @Culumbu
      @Culumbu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leancove9662 precisely I don't know, I got this car ten years ago, I had driven for 40000 miles (65000 km), but the odometer only reads until 100k km, son certainly I don't know how many times it made a full turn, with me, only one

  • @johnkenneally4662
    @johnkenneally4662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This same type of motor is in my 2010 Camry. Best car I ever owned. Great job explaining the parts and operation of this engine. 210K miles and still going strong.

  • @stephenhunt6253
    @stephenhunt6253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good stuff! One thing I liked about the old 3RZ-FE is that it had an easily accessible/replaceable timing chain tensioner (accessed *without* having to remove the timing cover).

  • @toyotatacomaguy23
    @toyotatacomaguy23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a 2016 Camry le with this engine, 70k miles no issues, I currently have a 2013 rav4 limited with this engine and it has 170k miles, burns some oil not much but no other issues except for that, very reliable engine. and the vvt rattle is pretty harsh on cold starts.

  • @genxiong2695
    @genxiong2695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Amazing this guy knows almost every part of the engine. I'll be like where's the dipstick?

    • @balanjoseph8196
      @balanjoseph8196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      6:41 there it is

    • @HoweDoYouDo1999
      @HoweDoYouDo1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think, I just done found the reason why people do not change the oil in these things. 😂

    • @theusedblink
      @theusedblink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, hes brilliant!!

    • @rodneyh7693
      @rodneyh7693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He is using the toothbrush of knowledge, thats why.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some new cars don't have one--oil level is displayed on the dashboard infotainment screen (along with tire pressures).

  • @sydneyNemesis101
    @sydneyNemesis101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    European car brands should learn from this, instead of broken timing guides, leaking gaskets, plastic parts near heat

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. Simple and easy to work on

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toyotas don't seem to leak often, whereas the Euro cars I've had would tend to have annoying leaking issues or things that need fixing.

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny, as many of the Toyota engines (including small Diesels) for EU market are build in Poland, Wałbrzych engine plant, and most of them are N/A in Northern America.
      www.toyotapl.com/about-us

    • @riccccccardo
      @riccccccardo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RennieAsh I agree I experienced leaks with my b7 Audi and poor chain guide quality.

    • @riccccccardo
      @riccccccardo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pliedtka yes but always built to Japanese standards in eu 😊

  • @whoguy4231
    @whoguy4231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Simplicity and elegant design is what I was taught in engineering for reliability. Thanks for the strip down.

  • @therock649
    @therock649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the way you explain to us, easy, short, no music, no introduction@understood
    Thanks
    Following you from arab middle east🌹

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks from Canada
      Short and to the point is how it's gotta be

  • @LoiceLabs
    @LoiceLabs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got my '99 2E corolla engine tear down last week because of broken conrod bearing. So while the mechanic is tearing it apart i was watching your videos. Glad he put it back to normal after replacing the bearing and cleaned my engine. Now feels like i have a brand new car. Reborn engine 😂 even though it has more than 200k milage on it.

  • @briansansone
    @briansansone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man...the switch from American engines, to Japanese engines is eye opening. A VVT doesnt mess around. VVT is fascinating. I wonder how far we are from individual, independent, valve control? Like the Freevalve. Seems like Toyota already has very tuned control over valve timing. The next step must be the ultimate control over a combustion engine; a computer controlled, independent valve train....Cool

  • @mikecarignan7002
    @mikecarignan7002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 2018 rav ,2.5,very interesting breakdown,love all that tech talk.I like your delivery speed.easy to follow

  • @sk8punk318
    @sk8punk318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I had the trusty 2ZV-FE(2.5L V6 DOHC 160 hp/tq) on my 1990 Lexus ES250. Had 275k miles on original engine and it was still running strong but some kids vandalized my car and it got totaled out :( RIP ES250 5MT.

  • @VoodooBoot
    @VoodooBoot ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel. Together with I Do Cars, it’s my favorite engine channel. No promo, no bullshit, no intro, pure knowledge.

  • @hotchinahk
    @hotchinahk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for the this engine review, I own a rav4 with this engine for 10 years still running strong.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many miles and any issues?

    • @hotchinahk
      @hotchinahk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@speedkar99 It has 150000 k on it now and the engine and gear box still no issues, I change oil every 5000 k on engine and 20000 k on gear box.

    • @njsongwriter
      @njsongwriter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have a 2009 RAV4 with this engine and less than 55,000 miles on it. Actually ours is a RAV2 cause it's not 4WD. I also change the oil every 5,000 miles and I've done three drain and fills for the ATF.

  • @mrcrtking
    @mrcrtking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still got my 1991 3S-GTE turbo engine, just finished a rebuild and was very happy to see there was very minimal wear, mine was starting to use oil alot, turned out to be all valve oil seals were cracked and 8 oil return holes on oil control rings on all 4 pistons were full up of waxy stuff, the control rings were also solid and didn't really move, thank god for the oil squirters! ended up stripping down, washing entire engine with chemicals to remove the waxy stuff from holes gallerys etc, new piston ring set, light hone out, new main bearings as 1 had worn slightly through coating, 2 new thrust washers, new big end bearings, I polished the crank and cam bearings, used plastigauge to size replacement bearings, stuck whole lot back together with new seals and gaskets, its literally going back in the MR2 this week, hopefully will last another 30 years, legendary engines, now got a 3S-GE to put in a Caterham so that's up next for clean & rebuild if needed.

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I think the oil squirters are primarily for cooling where there's no water jacket. That's why the middle cylinders have more than the outer ones.

    • @beerustheblack2846
      @beerustheblack2846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Open deck design... I'm sure they cool the bottom of the piston but they are also much better than relying on splash lubrication alone

    • @kiwidiesel
      @kiwidiesel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The oil squirters are purely for cooling the underside of the piston crown and skirt.

    • @socmonki
      @socmonki ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the 2 middle pistons get hotter than the 2 outer, being as they are central in the stack and don't benefit from having the extra cooling the outer pistons do. extra oil to help cool them down is a no brainer.

  • @Fred-F4
    @Fred-F4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video on a great engine! My Rav4 after 8 years drives like new, phenomenal performance with basic maintenance.

  • @ther1kid
    @ther1kid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You do such a good job at these videos. These are exactly the details I want to study. Well done on the whole channel.

  • @craigiefconcert6493
    @craigiefconcert6493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. This dude is like a mechanical engineer and a mechanic combined. Really great video. Genius level. Damn!

  • @buddyrevell4329
    @buddyrevell4329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man, you can see one of the reasons for Toyota reliability in all the engineering detail involved with the lubrication system.

  • @terp8373
    @terp8373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I watched this video a few times, and it had major influence on my decision to buy a RAV4, which I just got this past week. Thanks Speedkar99 -- your vids are a public service.

    • @piggy310
      @piggy310 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great choice bro

  • @aros007z
    @aros007z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow you are very knowledgeable on these Toyota engines....you would make a great teacher!
    Wait a minute, you are a great teacher. Thanks!

  • @mickdove700
    @mickdove700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Toyota Aurion with a 2grfe v6. I've Just hit half a million kilometres and it still runs perfect. I've thrashed this car regularly since owning it!

  • @olafzijnbuis
    @olafzijnbuis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This engine must have very reliable seals for the 5 large horizontal sealing surfaces.
    Most engines have only three: valve cover, cylinder head gasket, and sump.
    No doubt they use excellent materials. I own a 1982 Honda CBX-1000 6-cylinder motorcycle that doesn't leak.
    Nice video!

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are right. Not a design I'd prefer but hey it works

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@speedkar99 would you prefer to not have the balance shafts and their complexity? Also why no thrust washers?

    • @malachy1847
      @malachy1847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@speedkar99 The Honda 'K' series engine is the Standard that all Engines should be judged by there a Bullet Proof design that has stood the test of time... still to this day folks are coming up with mad ways of fitting the likes of serious Turbos and superchargers onto same, to drop into retro or modified cars and getting really mad horse power out of same... [Got a local main Honda dealer to change out my 2006 Honda CRVMK11 [K20 ] Water pump as the Mechanical Seal failed that was over ten years ago that job cost 220 Euro including Parts, Labour and Taxes...can't be bad to that price...Great strip down and Upload First rate...

    • @piggy310
      @piggy310 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@malachy1847 meh ..my Accord engine burned oil and the vvt war very hard in the timing chain that it was a cascading failure.

  • @JAMESWUERTELE
    @JAMESWUERTELE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m new to the 1GR-FE would be super rad to see a tear down. I hope to keep the wife’s 2020, and my 2021 going for a long long time.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would like to teardown any GR engine.
      I have the 2GR in my Lexus GS

    • @elonsus9747
      @elonsus9747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a great engine. Been around for a longgg time. You will have many trouble free years with it.

  • @Healthliving1967
    @Healthliving1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty simple answer here-well designed, made from quality materials, and assembled by hand with care and precision.

  • @kirknelson156
    @kirknelson156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a 90 toyota pickup with the 22R-E, 2.4L, I put over 400K on it over 19 years, other than basic maintenance, i replaced the alternator twice, 1 starter motor, and the radiator once. Used to pull a 3500lbs travel trailer with it and it was still running fine when I sold it. best vehicle I've ever owned.

    • @ianspeckmaier9565
      @ianspeckmaier9565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please tell me, what was your experience towing? I have an 89 with a 22re and it feels absolutely gutless.

    • @kirknelson156
      @kirknelson156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianspeckmaier9565 Mine was pretty good, its a small engine to be sure and it doesn't make much torque until you get the RPM's up, I don't remember at what RPM the power kicked it, but without your trailer get it up to about 10 put it in 2nd and hit the gas, I think around 3K you will fell a good increase in power. I used to wind mine up to 6k regularly and in fact you can get it up to 60 MPH in 2nd get. I used to hold 55 in 2nd climbing mountains if 3rd wasn't doing the job. don't hesitate to let the gearing do the work for you. keep in mind my little truck was well maintained, I always changed oil after 3000 miles and if not on the button but within a couple hundred. Plugs, wires, cap and rotor were also maintained. Buy the time I sold mine it was 19 years old and well over 400k on original engine, not going to say it wasn't getting tired, it was. still ran and drove it around town, it was past its prime for towing, if I still needed it to I think a rebuild would have been the best bet, don't know how many miles you got on yours or how well its been taken care of. but those are things to consider. do a compression test, that will tell you if its still up to the task or needs a bit of care first. I've said many times, that little 90 toyota is the best vehicle I ever owned. best of luck to you and your little truck :-)

    • @kirknelson156
      @kirknelson156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh and one more note, back when I was using it for pulling the national speed limit was still 55, to go over 60 had to take it out of 5th and use 4th, to hit 70 needed to use 3rd. Don't think I'd use it to pull anything with a lot of wind resistance today. with speed limits up to 80 in places you need a bigger engine for like a travel trailer, its not the weight its the wind resistance. My trailer was 2 foot wider than my truck, its like pulling a brick wall.

    • @ianspeckmaier9565
      @ianspeckmaier9565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kirknelson156 Awesome appreciate you sending all that that's exactly how mine drives too. I just rev it out and when I get halfway up the power band she seems to have a lot more juice.

  • @robertgraham5486
    @robertgraham5486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m changing my oil tomorrow

  • @zerotrace000
    @zerotrace000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody makes a better video on the breakdown of engines! Bravo speedkar99!

  • @microcolonel
    @microcolonel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The record of these is excellent, the record so far with Dynamic Force engines is impressive for how much more is involved in hitting those efficiency targets. I get excellent mileage on mine.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It sure is amazing how complex it is. Waiting on long term reliability data to see how it'll hold up

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@speedkar99 I’d say from what I’ve heard so far is they are even more reliable. The electric water pumps are more reliable than the old leaky belt driven one on this engine. The dynamic force engine is durable enough to run on 0w16 oil. Most people will probably be better off switching to 0w20 after the warranty is done.

  • @nathanneumann5083
    @nathanneumann5083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 2007 Camry. I bought it brand new. I have had over 20 brand new cars of Ford, Chrysler, GM and Kia in 50 years of servicing my own cars. This Toyota was the only car that started using oil at 30,000 miles. About a quart per oil change which was 3500 miles. First heard it was the valve guide seals then it was low tention rings. So much for their reliability!

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  ปีที่แล้ว

      They're reliable but oil is just part of the running costs on these 😟

    • @231mac
      @231mac ปีที่แล้ว

      There are tons of articles on that series engine showing that it's the oil control rings. It was a _design_ issue; Toyota is still one of the most reliable automakers.

  • @backroadssidetrips
    @backroadssidetrips 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That toothbrush is very reliable too. LOL.

    • @solluna2155
      @solluna2155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colgate 👍👌

    • @jimwatchyyc
      @jimwatchyyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s also made by Toyota!

  • @Brsrafal
    @Brsrafal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Owned Toyotas over 300k never engine issues i do chsnge oil 3k conventional 5k synthetic trans fluid i keep original. Great video amazing explanation.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. And yes 3K is the ideal for oil changes....not 10K like they suggest

  • @thomaschai5486
    @thomaschai5486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! Would love to see tear down of the 2AZ-FE engine in the future

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's not a good example of a Toyota motor haha

    • @brayancrespo1517
      @brayancrespo1517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@speedkar99 Please do so, Ive been wanting this for so long! I still have my solara since your solara videos

    • @Mr_pai_pai
      @Mr_pai_pai 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The black sheep of the Toyota engines

  • @callmebackfriday2
    @callmebackfriday2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lot of information in this video. Thanks so much for making it.👍 Learn a lot of the car I am driving.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are welcome. Glad you could learn something

  • @nasedo3129
    @nasedo3129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like the looks of this engine. Sure a lot more sensible than that BMW inline six we looked at a while ago.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know right! Not nearly as complicated and still will out last it.

    • @Enthusiastlist
      @Enthusiastlist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean the BMW engine makes significantly more power in all fairness.

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're rich get BMW, if you want something to get you from point A to B Toyota is a better choice

  • @michaelbenardo5695
    @michaelbenardo5695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have a 2010 Toyota Avalon that was given to us by my Brother-In-Law. It was his wife's car. We have the oil and filter changed every 3000 miles without fail, we don't floor it, we don't drive it much over 70 MPH, yet at only about 76,000 miles, it has a bad piston pin. So much for Toyotas being so fantastic.

  • @jamescaley9942
    @jamescaley9942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Engines design is like entropy: always tending to ever more complexity. We await to see how reliable the new Toyota dynamic force engines are.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I took a deep dive into those in my Corolla Camry RAV4 mechanical Reviews. They are quite complicated for a conservative company like Toyota. Hopefully they last as long as their predessesor

    • @johndelong5574
      @johndelong5574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Entropy tends toward simplicity,unless you are a biologist but they dont need physics

    • @iankemp2627
      @iankemp2627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@po18guy What's your point? Simpler engines are also far less fuel-efficient and far more polluting. Complexity exists for a good reason.

    • @duaneafields
      @duaneafields 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iankemp2627 wrong. we are talking reliability here, not fuel and emissions. complexity sucks.

    • @duaneafields
      @duaneafields 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @po18guy correct.

  • @tomkathylindstrom7047
    @tomkathylindstrom7047 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the piston toss at the end. nice touch

  • @motorv8N
    @motorv8N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great tear-down - thanks! Bonus is that I now see for the first time how those oil filters with reusable housings work. Can you do their 3.5 V6 sometime please! 😎

  • @god-son-love
    @god-son-love 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was looking for the effect of not changing engine oil. This disassembly gives me good ideas.

  • @2t_mxrider
    @2t_mxrider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The current gen A25A-FKS 2.5L engine inherited a lot from this design, including more plastic parts lol

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The A25A is another wonder in itself...lots of new tech. See my Corolla / Camry reviews for that.

    • @2t_mxrider
      @2t_mxrider 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@speedkar99 Thanks man, watched most of your videos, keep'em coming! The new 2.5 Toyota engine is pretty good aside awful noise during acceleration and lack of low end torque and most of hp coming up high rpm.

    • @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
      @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@speedkar99 the dynamic force motors are insane in what they bring to the table hut the complexity scares me. I currently drive an 07 matrix with the 1ZZ-FE and it's got a cracked manifold seal (according to the local mechanic, not sure if it's true), bad engine mounts, and a few other minor issues but at nearly 200K miles most of these issues I honestly think I can just overlook until the rest of the car falls apart (been this way for a while - car has had a hard life, especially with the previous owners who I know). Im not sure if these new engines will be capable of running into the ground like this. I certainly hope they retain the legendary reliability.

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife now that you know why don't you replace the seal yourself?

    • @elkofcanada5003
      @elkofcanada5003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife I hope so. I guess people were hesitant to DOHC and EFI and VRIS etc, new tech is always scary lol. I hope my Corollas M20A-FKS runs for hundreds of KM lol!

  • @jimpie231
    @jimpie231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow.....I’m impressed! Good job, no baloney! Thank-you very much! Lots of detail! Jim
    PS.....have a 2017 Toyota RAV4.

  • @YamiPheonix531
    @YamiPheonix531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Quite impressed that this 2.5L 4 cylinder in-line engine can pull a heavy Toyota RAV4 and additional towing capacity. Engineering has come a long way. Congrats Toyota.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it's quite powerful if you think back 15-20 years ago what a 2.5 was rated it

  • @TruthSeekerAll
    @TruthSeekerAll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The knowledge that this guy spits out is truly incredible!

  • @ofeliawotsits6080
    @ofeliawotsits6080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That balancing system is the most interesting thing. It would be interesting to know how much longevity that gives to the engine, though, quite how one can do that I don’t know.

  • @CalgarGTX
    @CalgarGTX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A car magazine (yeah they still exist) in my country recently made a top 10 + dishonorable mentions of car manufacturers they get the most complaints from (actual mechanical issues and associated warranty coverage), I drive Toyota and I thought 'Thats weird they have everybody except Toyota in there'
    The next week a reader asked why they forgot to score Toyota and they answered they get so few complaints from either warranty coverage or even actual issues it was statistically insignificant so they didn't include them at all..

  • @riccccccardo
    @riccccccardo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is why I just bought my 1st Japanese car a Lexus 450h mk4 😊 had enough of the unreliability of audi and German cars.

    • @vj8452
      @vj8452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All cars are reliable. It's the owner

    • @riccccccardo
      @riccccccardo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vj8452 not true in my case I owned an Audi A4 2.0 TFSI b7 Quattro for 5 years no money spared looking after it and it was super unreliable almost £1000 a year in repair bills. Also suffered oil chain pump failure due to known manafactor non serviceable part failure which cost me thousands to fix. Audi Uk told me to jog on at first until I took it to court.

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vj8452 only people who dont get their hands dirty say that.I wouldn’t have a business specializing in European vehicles then if thats the case😎

    • @riccccccardo
      @riccccccardo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Anomize23 repair and prosper ££££ my friend 🤣🤣🤣

  • @davedeath77
    @davedeath77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    had a 2010 rav4 4wd 212000 no problems at all! with 2 front accidents! I was HORRIBLE with my oil changes too, stayed nice and strong. just got a new to me 2018 rav4 awd, gonna treat this one better!

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice. Please take care of it. Should last you a while.

  • @jonathangrubmeyer9104
    @jonathangrubmeyer9104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this video. Very educational.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you found it helpful. Please share on your network

  • @rt2255
    @rt2255 ปีที่แล้ว

    Designed by very good engineers, that truly understand their job.

  • @fogogin
    @fogogin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can you do a video on the Toyota 22R/RE engine? It was a bombproof piece of machinery.

    • @RealityIsTheNow
      @RealityIsTheNow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Legendary engine. I had an old toyota pickup in high school, well over 350,000 miles...ran perfectly. Out mudding around I was routinely pulling broken full size Fords and Chevys out of the muck.

    • @hotchinahk
      @hotchinahk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RealityIsTheNow I own a corona station wagon for 15 years with 22 re injection motor in it, simple and reliable engine.

    • @pryme2013
      @pryme2013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dual row timing chain with metal guides in a small four is way overbuilt!

    • @timjohnun4297
      @timjohnun4297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pryme2013 Nice problem to have, although I don't get why this engine needs balance shafts. Literally millions of 4 cylinder engines around that run just fine without them

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Old but good. Also hard to find now lol

  • @tsfullerton
    @tsfullerton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the table stand at the end; very creative.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I make them when done tearing down the engines

  • @B61zz13
    @B61zz13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great teardown. The design looks super simple, compared to some of the other engines you've showcased on your channel. My 2AR-FE Camry is still running just fine at 180,000 miles.

    • @piggy310
      @piggy310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mine is ready to hit 270k.. Runs like it did in 2010.

  • @IAmNoeyes
    @IAmNoeyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Knowing about engines helps . Such a nice video

  • @autooutlet1563
    @autooutlet1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love these engines my mom has a 2007 with 210k miles it’ll run no matter what but does consume a lot of oil through the oil control rings I believe

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's probably the older 2AZ

    • @mr.boostang2064
      @mr.boostang2064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In other words, it's a bad engine that is still on the road with +200k miles lol gotta love how tough Toyotas can be.

    • @autooutlet1563
      @autooutlet1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mr.boostang2064 no not really the engine is really well built besides the faulty piston rings

    • @jimpie231
      @jimpie231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that engine was recalled by Toyota. My friend had a 2007 Scion tC with a 2.5 L (2AZ-FE) and he got a letter from Toyota (he was second owner) and took it in. Toyota changed the oil, put taped locks on drain plug in pan, on dip stick and on oil fill cap. Told him to drive it 1100 miles and then bring it back. They then decided it was using too much oil and they rebuilt the engine. It had 67,000 miles when this was done. It now has around 120,000 miles and does not use any oil. I guess Toyota knew what they were doing. Good luck.....Jim

    • @autooutlet1563
      @autooutlet1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimpie231 thanks for the advice maybe I’ll use a magnetic drain plug but she’s going to be selling it soon anyways. The consumption slowed down after doing spark plug seals and higher quality oil but once it breaks down the oil is consumed like crazy.

  • @bkdexter79
    @bkdexter79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your ability to break the engine down and explain everything minute detail is very educational. It seems to sum it up to excellent lubrication and heat control. Yes?

  • @Skillzpatchi
    @Skillzpatchi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you sir are a tru hero keep up the good job

  • @JulioOrtiz-ub3yo
    @JulioOrtiz-ub3yo ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how his goin to the point express fluid and reach the point you need to knows

  • @BWater-yq3jx
    @BWater-yq3jx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    🪥 🪥 🪥
    "This man is a mechanic, so we can't show you his face on television..."

  • @echoview
    @echoview 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy is the real deal. Not only does he know the name of every piece, he describes their function. Any chance you're in south jersey?

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Toronto Canada

  • @Zohar-Modifier
    @Zohar-Modifier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are still alive speedkar !!!

  • @gkseoa6111
    @gkseoa6111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    اشكرك على طريقة توضيح الاجزاء الدقيقة في المحرك وبصورة موجزة رائعة.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are welcome

  • @jarskiXD
    @jarskiXD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    >when youre in the middle of brushing your teeth but you get a great video idea

  • @ing.shineattopley9614
    @ing.shineattopley9614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sharp and master of his trade. Thank u sir

  • @robertparsons6781
    @robertparsons6781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Would love to see you do a teardown of a Nissan QR25 engine. I think they're solid engines if you keep up with maintenance.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Altima 4 banger?

    • @robertparsons6781
      @robertparsons6781 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@speedkar99 yep I have an 04 and it's pretty smooth

    • @J.Nev.
      @J.Nev. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertparsons6781 Very Solid Besides The Pre-Cat And Butterfly Screws Problems With The 1st Gen QR25DE.

  • @nathans1978
    @nathans1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow you did all that with just a toothbrush! Great video and thank you for your direct-to-content style!

  • @insaneali4280
    @insaneali4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 2011+ Scion tC also uses the 2AR engine, Ive been trying to find a turbo kit with no luck. Sketchy turbo kits for he 2AZ are plentiful on ebay though.

    • @Justin-nx3pw
      @Justin-nx3pw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a Scion tC owner, putting a turbo in it is just laughable to me.

    • @insaneali4280
      @insaneali4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Justin-nx3pw Yea, but I figured getting a used kit for ~$2500 and reaching around 300 horsepower wouldnt be a bad upgrade for some fun.

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not sure how I'd feel turboing a tC

    • @jimpie231
      @jimpie231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keep it stock, and it’ll be reliable, play with it and you’ll always be working on it. Been there......Jim (I’m 74 years old)

  • @williamgrissom9022
    @williamgrissom9022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 1984 M-B diesel 5 cyl has similar timing chain guides. Aluminum with a plastic liner the chain runs against, perhaps nylon. It also has a similar hydraulic tensioner. My 2002 Chrysler 3.8L has a similar oil pump in the timing cover, driven directly by the crankshaft. The oil drip tubes in the valve cover look like a simple solution and perhaps eliminate having to drill numerous oil feeds in the head.

  • @ToolsOutsideTheBox
    @ToolsOutsideTheBox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You CAN actually remove the balance shafts, permanently. You need to plug one of the oil passages though.
    Grab 2 intake cams and the high compression pistons out of the 2ARFXE to get 260BHP! You will, however, need a standalone/piggyback ecu to manage the timing.
    The cam phazers need slightly stiffer springs to prevent that noise

  • @boufie9997
    @boufie9997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:01 OMG There has got to be something better to watch
    15:02 OMG This was the best thing I have watched in a LONG time!
    Brilliant delivery, VERY interesting. Thank You!

  • @davidroosa4561
    @davidroosa4561 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm very impressed with both the engine and your presentation

  • @thereeven
    @thereeven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    9:15 I'm sure you know that kind of play is normal in almost all engines.

  • @johnchan6649
    @johnchan6649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top rate showmanship! I like to put it together again. Well done.

  • @aaronhuntnz
    @aaronhuntnz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was really really good mate. Would you consider doing a video covering the recalls Toyota made on these engines mentioned in the Wikipedia also regarding the N.America law suites?

  • @rahundsigma
    @rahundsigma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a scion tc with this engine. Redlined it every gear, all day, everyday. Never an issue and had 130k miles

    • @radleybradford1356
      @radleybradford1356 ปีที่แล้ว

      210k redliner here, still going absolutely no worse for wear! Remarkable motor, going for 500k, because why not

  • @madunwerkstatt3093
    @madunwerkstatt3093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't forget Papadakis's stroker 2AR on the Corolla.

  • @dickJohnsonpeter
    @dickJohnsonpeter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I think it's because to be an engineer in Japan, especially an automotive engineer, you practically die just trying to get through university. Hell, just getting *in* .

    • @robinsattahip2376
      @robinsattahip2376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      JATCO (Nissan) certainly hired some idiots to design their CVT's and other parts of the cars. The Europeans also screwed up Nissan.

    • @robvelor
      @robvelor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@robinsattahip2376 I was about to say... all that tech is actually coming from Renault.

    • @BrianBourgeois-
      @BrianBourgeois- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They also have culture where they value quality and dependability above all else.

    • @woobilicious.
      @woobilicious. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's also probably some influence from Zen minimalism

    • @christophermarshall5765
      @christophermarshall5765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robvelor no. Mercedes were using this technology of the cam box system in the 1970's, being part of the M110 twin cam 6 that first appeared in 1971. The VVT system has been around for about 25 years as far as I can remember. I think this system was introduced by Mitsubishi in the very early MIVEC engines.

  • @-burak.k-2029
    @-burak.k-2029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah man I was waiting for someone to do a proper teardown with explanations and I am soooo glad it was you man!!!!!

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome thanks!

  • @mmitchell1727
    @mmitchell1727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is amazing. Can you review a 5s-fe engine? Pretty please?

    • @SimornM
      @SimornM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I second this 👍🏾

    • @speedkar99
      @speedkar99  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had alot of requests. But I just don't see what's so interesting with the 5S...it's so simple.

    • @SimornM
      @SimornM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@speedkar99 all I know is, I have 320k on my 97 camry lol I think that's a variation of the same engine in the first gen rav4 and third gen camry, thats why I would bw interested lol

    • @mmitchell1727
      @mmitchell1727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@speedkar99 seeing what reliability looks like and how it could possibly be better is fascinating nowadays compared to the crap that gets made new.

  • @jldonnell1
    @jldonnell1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding presentation and extraordinary grasp of the subject matter.

  • @TheRedgtv2000
    @TheRedgtv2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Timing chains also needs to be replaced after certain miles tend to stretch, less frequent than the timing belt driven engines.