Great idea!!!! Love the sound brother!!! I have a small drum room and I use my one ribbon mic stuck between two guitar cabinets to achieve a sort of similar tone. I cut off the lows and the highs and crushed the hell out of it to make my room sound bigger than it is. I definitely want to try this with the right band. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥🔥
Christian, thank you for that video regarding using an EQ to roll off the highs of guitars in mixes to focus them and make them less 'kazoo like' ( EQ heavy GUITARS like NEVER BEFORE! ). I tried the technique on a client's song I was having trouble with because there's an acoustic guitar, a clean electric rhythm guitar, a slightly dirty electric guitar, and heavily distorted electric guitar, and then two lead guitars through the whole song, ala 'Layla' that play throughout the song behind the vocal. It's a song where each guitar needs to be in its place and I was having trouble separating them as their tones were all blending together until I applied your method to them. Now they are completely manageable, each sitting where I put them and not bleeding into the others with high end noises. And now all the other elements of the song (drums, bass, and vocals) are clearer and more defined. Thanks, Brother! I owe you a 12 pk. 🍺😁🤘
I just usually have another Drums Bus, next to the regular one, where I only send Kicks, Snares and Toms to, then absolutely destroy them with compression (oops, all transients) and then blend that in to have more punch
Request for you - I'd love to hear about room sound / reverb on guitars. Some of my favorite metal/rock tones have a huge sound that I just can't replicate with an SM57 alone
get a second SM57 and use the fredman technique on your guitars. It is the signature guitar sound on those earth swedish death metal at the gates in flames and opeth albums. I got a second one and it sounds fucking massive. You combine that with a room mic, and the guitars sound absolutely huge.
If you really want to hard limit/compress drums for that huge punchy thwack sound it really needs to be recorded without cymbals. It's basically the modern day Phil Collins sound. If cymbals are in there it sounds like trash with major limiting.
I use a birch Yamaha and a mahogany/birch Yamaha for death metal. Just can't get a better sound than that from any other drums. For slower stuff the mahogany/birch kit, for fast stuff the birch kit. Love the lowend and the attack. Doesn't need eq, really. I use e604s, e902s and e602s.
Kristian hi! Thank you for another awesome video! I have a question. I've noticed that your EQ register clipping on some tracks from 0.1 up to 1.4 db like at 11:34. How much clipping is acceptable and how trustworthy are levels on ProQ 3?
@@Penfield451 if you work at 32 bits or 64 bits it's not clipping, it's just going over 0dB, but you are not damaging the waveform by doing so and you can lower the level later with no issues.
@@KohleAudioKult Do you have other videos featuring the Ohmicide plugin? You mentioned it was your favorite, but I can't find it in a search of your channel.
I did a whole video about the "why" on the URM channel. Basically because it's less stress for everyone and because you can still change kick patterns easily which has saved my ass a few times. And I can make it sound great and unique too, so that's why.
I’m Toni from Finland hi 👍🤘 Do you mainly use that fabfilter pro Q for equalizing or do you have another favorite eq? I’m looking for 1 good eq for all equalizing tasks. Thanks. Your channel is one of my favorites 🤘🎶
So, if I'm getting this right, this is a double tracked drum set. I tried something similar once, but it was pretty hard to keep the drummer from sounding flammed once remixed. Do you have any tips? Or is it all due to time correcting/alignment?
Coming to munich on September 27th for Octoberfest. Obviously I'm gonna hit hof brau haus. Any other great brewery recommendations? Asking because you said you were in Munich and that you like beer. Figured you would know. Killer bars? Food? Take me to school.
I'm not from Munich, but the "Helles" from "Augustiner" is a world class beer from Munich you should try. Don't know if you can visit the brewery. Maybe!
Shiet..... This room is amaizing.... But what to do when you don't have great sounding room? Mabey it's idea for a video... drums in small overdamped room for example. I would love to see that!
It has such a "round" and "fat" sound. I love it!
This snare is totally sick... Damn you always make me excited!
Good to hear that. That was the idea ;)
@@KohleAudioKult but it's high pitched? How come it sounds good? Just trolling :D Rock on!
your approach to engineering is always interesting as hell!
''Everything sound pretty good from the start'' LMAO, it sounds amazing as is already! I would love to mix that music capture this way!!
I agree. Mixing is more fun without all the gucken repair work 😇.
People need to learn how to record properly.
@@KohleAudioKult Cheers to that!! You are seriously a huge reference for a perfectly captured drum recording sir! Keep it up!
Thanks man will give this a shot in future productions
Killer vid man!! Love this! Going to check out Tenside now. Killer drummer and groove!!
Great mix and awesome sounds! Everything has the perfect space for all the instruments - well done, amazing!
Great idea!!!! Love the sound brother!!! I have a small drum room and I use my one ribbon mic stuck between two guitar cabinets to achieve a sort of similar tone. I cut off the lows and the highs and crushed the hell out of it to make my room sound bigger than it is. I definitely want to try this with the right band. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥🔥
That doubled kick gave me those orchestral bass drum vibes. This appeals to me. 😎
Super creative drum part. Elegantly simple. Love seeing taste and arrangement being held above ability and wow factor.
Fantastic stuff man -- love it!
Damn those toms sound so good too!
Christian, thank you for that video regarding using an EQ to roll off the highs of guitars in mixes to focus them and make them less 'kazoo like' ( EQ heavy GUITARS like NEVER BEFORE! ). I tried the technique on a client's song I was having trouble with because there's an acoustic guitar, a clean electric rhythm guitar, a slightly dirty electric guitar, and heavily distorted electric guitar, and then two lead guitars through the whole song, ala 'Layla' that play throughout the song behind the vocal. It's a song where each guitar needs to be in its place and I was having trouble separating them as their tones were all blending together until I applied your method to them. Now they are completely manageable, each sitting where I put them and not bleeding into the others with high end noises. And now all the other elements of the song (drums, bass, and vocals) are clearer and more defined.
Thanks, Brother! I owe you a 12 pk. 🍺😁🤘
What a lovely story! Great to hear that.
If 12 pk is a beer, I'll take it!
@@KohleAudioKult let me know where to send it! That and a draft of the song, before and after the treatment. It's like night and day.
Great industrial sounding snare
That's pretty cool man! I love messing around in the studio.
I love your vids and approach, Kristian..
Great ideas you’ve got there, thanks for sharing
That snare ring!!!! Sweet baby jesus!!
Killer stuff! Definitely something I want to try. Cheers!
Holy smoke! That's creative AF! Awesome! 🤟
I think at 13:05 you show the final result without the additional Tracks.
But: Always nice to find ways to think out of the box!
How do YOU add attitude to your drums? 🤔
I just usually have another Drums Bus, next to the regular one, where I only send Kicks, Snares and Toms to, then absolutely destroy them with compression (oops, all transients) and then blend that in to have more punch
I have a parallel bus with "nuke" from a lovely black and white compressor and some tape saturation. I blend that in.
Or I use a TS9 on a monoroom
Request for you - I'd love to hear about room sound / reverb on guitars. Some of my favorite metal/rock tones have a huge sound that I just can't replicate with an SM57 alone
Don't know if that's a reverb thing. But yeah, I should talk about that.
get a second SM57 and use the fredman technique on your guitars. It is the signature guitar sound on those earth swedish death metal at the gates in flames and opeth albums. I got a second one and it sounds fucking massive. You combine that with a room mic, and the guitars sound absolutely huge.
This was really cool, interesting!!
Cool stuff! I do that in parallel processing usually but I never thought about re-recording without cymbals! Another killer trick, thanks! :)
If you really want to hard limit/compress drums for that huge punchy thwack sound it really needs to be recorded without cymbals. It's basically the modern day Phil Collins sound. If cymbals are in there it sounds like trash with major limiting.
@@legacyShredder1 It’s not always an option unfortunately, especially just getting files to mix…! :)
Brilliant work!
Sick and fuckin' inspiring. Greeeeat job!
And that's slap so FREAKIN HARD!
Actually, I did something simmilar to that, except I distorted the snare and kick sample. Good to see guy like you doin the same trick :)
Ich bin soooo froh dass tenside nen neuen Drummer haben, der rockt ultra!
Geiler Typ auch!
This is fascinating stuff! 😆🤘
Killer. Love you bro. Best metal TH-cam channel. 🤘🍻
A kohle drum recording processing video make me insta click the like button lol
That’s the spirit!
Damn...! That was really helpfull.
Those toms though! 🤩
What about them?
@@KohleAudioKult They're some of the best sounding toms I've ever heard!
I use a birch Yamaha and a mahogany/birch Yamaha for death metal. Just can't get a better sound than that from any other drums. For slower stuff the mahogany/birch kit, for fast stuff the birch kit. Love the lowend and the attack. Doesn't need eq, really. I use e604s, e902s and e602s.
I actually use the Yamaha Maple Custom toms all the time!
I just don’t like the kick for anything metal.
I prefer the Recording Custom here.
@@KohleAudioKult yes, the birch kick is just so clean.
Sounds juicy🍻 that talkback limiter is a beast, may have to invest in that one👍
You can start with the free SSL Listenback compressor.
@@KohleAudioKult excellent I will check it out cheers
Kristian hi! Thank you for another awesome video!
I have a question. I've noticed that your EQ register clipping on some tracks from 0.1 up to 1.4 db like at 11:34. How much clipping is acceptable and how trustworthy are levels on ProQ 3?
As long as you are in a 64 bit environment, the clipping doesn’t matter. Just don’t clip your converters.
@@KohleAudioKult thank you❤
@@Penfield451 if you work at 32 bits or 64 bits it's not clipping, it's just going over 0dB, but you are not damaging the waveform by doing so and you can lower the level later with no issues.
@@kelainefes thank you, I really needed to know this)
Holy shit that sounds insane! Never heard of Ohmicide Distortion before, but I've gotta have it now.
Yes please!
@@KohleAudioKult Do you have other videos featuring the Ohmicide plugin? You mentioned it was your favorite, but I can't find it in a search of your channel.
In my old industrial band I used to combine my snare with a ddrum module and a stop sign ( a litteral stop sign) Sounded killed when mixed.
Haha! Dammit. Great idea!
Cool trick ! I've listened to the song, your drum tracks sound great from the get go (too bad the mixer put so little overheads in the final mix)
one extra 👍 for the beer 😜🤪
Richtig Geil!!!
A Kohle kick drum midi pack would be great
You mean sample pack?
@@KohleAudioKult yes!
Great video. But why the Midi Kick? A unique kickdrum sound is so refreshing!
I did a whole video about the "why" on the URM channel.
Basically because it's less stress for everyone and because you can still change kick patterns easily which has saved my ass a few times.
And I can make it sound great and unique too, so that's why.
The drums sound awesome even with almost no processing. I wish my recordings sounded half as good :D
I'm coming up with my academy soon. And I'll teach you guys everything I know.
I’m Toni from Finland hi 👍🤘 Do you mainly use that fabfilter pro Q for equalizing or do you have another favorite eq?
I’m looking for 1 good eq for all equalizing tasks.
Thanks.
Your channel is one of my favorites 🤘🎶
Fabfilter is great.
NICE
So, if I'm getting this right, this is a double tracked drum set. I tried something similar once, but it was pretty hard to keep the drummer from sounding flammed once remixed. Do you have any tips? Or is it all due to time correcting/alignment?
Nothing wrong with editing drums. Especially in this case.
Sometimes the flams can sound cool though
Yeah man, just slip that s#*! around and make it match up. Who cares? Lol
Get the idea you originally had in your head to work.
He's a good player. Nice pocket
what kick/midi/pad/pedal did you use in the main drums? i don't see it in the gear list. sounds great, thanks!
It’s a 16“ Tom that I turned into a kick pad.
When the hell you going to release a tci pack kohle??? Neeeeed this :)
That’s on the list! 🤘
@@KohleAudioKult yesssss
Coming to munich on September 27th for Octoberfest. Obviously I'm gonna hit hof brau haus. Any other great brewery recommendations? Asking because you said you were in Munich and that you like beer. Figured you would know.
Killer bars?
Food?
Take me to school.
I'm not from Munich, but the "Helles" from "Augustiner" is a world class beer from Munich you should try.
Don't know if you can visit the brewery. Maybe!
I am now going to name my folders "eingangs/ausgangskanäle"
That's actually the "In-" and "Outputchannels"
Yay! I won the thing several others did!
DUNNO IF YOUVE BEEN TO AUSTRALIA, BUT WE FKIN LOVE BEER! AND HEAVY SHIT! 💯🤘🏽
I'm on my way!
Prost 🍻🍻
Shiet..... This room is amaizing.... But what to do when you don't have great sounding room? Mabey it's idea for a video... drums in small overdamped room for example. I would love to see that!
I've been recording in a small dampened room for years. Yeah, maybe I should do that.
great stuff as always,sadly that all the cymbals stand so far behind in the final product
I just wrote the same comment. But the shells sound amazing
Since St Anger I've always been distorting the fuark out of my snare. Just the regular distortion in Cubase it's great enough.
The good thing about Cubase's distortion is that it's not fucking with the phase!
He has pocket
I didn't know that Post Malone had a metalcore band 😂
He auditioned to be Crown the Empires guitarist 🤣🤣
If you enjoy that groove, here's a potential influence of that groove /watch?v=xS4CRaCP0uw