THIS is how you MIX DEATH METAL DRUMS!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2022
- Today German producer Kristian Kohle (Aborted, Powerwolf, Electric Callboy, Hämatom, Van Canto, Emil Bulls, Benighted) shows you how to mix death metal drums and walks you through every detail of one of his drum mixes!
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How do you like the drum sound?
Absolutely fantastic drum tones, and a fabulous approach as well. I never really used close mics on hi-hats and rides before(relying solely on overheads/rooms prior) until my most recent project and I'm quite fond of the results. Also, can never quite get the bottom snare mic right, I always put one on, but barely use it in the final mix. I was very glad for pointers you had provided here. Keep up this excellent metal tutelage!
@@citadelstudios8764 Great you like it! you were lucky to find the video prior to the release, haha!
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It's huge! It's in your face, it's snappy, it's very suiting for the music it's playing with.
You knocked it outta the park, per usual, my friend. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Awesome, but how is it that little bleed on the snr track?
Man, that snare sound even without processing is awesome. Get it right at the source, life is easy.
I like the whole drum set original sound better than the mixed sound.
MAN. The drummer is a fucking machine and the sound is just massive.
Awesome as usual Kohle, sounds great and it’s always a blast learning from you
Really wonderful video and super awesome mix course on Kohle Audio Kult! Thank you so much Kristian for your hard work! Learning much from you! 😈🤘🔥🔥🔥
Thanks man!
This is the best drum sound i have ever heard!!! Great work ❤
I love watching your workflow and the skill you have working with each tool in your arsenal. Making the snare samples and using the way you do (I watched that video too) is also such a great idea and incredibly useful to have the snare sit exactly how you want it. Oh,...the drums mix sounds fantastic.
Thanks man! Great to hear you enjoy the channel
I forgot to say: Check out Kohle Audio Kult if you wanna learn more!
This is not at all my style of music, but watching this has really help me hear some things I should be doing in my own drum mixes. Thank you for making this!
You’re welcome! 🤘
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Sounds sick. Lots of great knowledge being shared here
Great tutorial dude. I love this. I have stopped caring what my EQ bands look like and only caring what they sound like. If it works it works!
Great Sound...and excellent tutorial...It is really very educational and pleasant feeling at the same time when i grab a beer and opening my dashboard on Kohle Audio Kult...Have watched the most of the courses and i enjoyed every minute...the good thing here is that the courses are usefull for everyone...The starters begin learning direct from the source...and for the most advanced users it is something like a recoup of knowlege...and fun at the same time!
Thanks buddy!
Again, thanks for share your knowledge. Great video, great tutorial, great info as always!
Awesome mix and clarity!
I really liked this video! It's not my style of metal or my typical drum sound, but your workflow and explanations make it super interesting. You're a great teacher!
Thanks man!
Check out Kohle Audio Kult. We teach all kinds of heavy music!
@@KohleAudioKult I should probably join, our next album would probably sound better :D
great performance. the drums pop through the mix nice and strong without sounding over processed. Not a fan of the snare sound. I like it a little fatter and bottom heavy. But overall it doesn't sound generic like most modern drum recordings. just to give an example of what I consider the PERFECT drum recording is Carcass - Heartwork
Just with this video alone I got two pages completely filled with notes. Amazing stuff as always! Probably going to make the jump and subscribe to the program here soon not gonna lie.
You better do! 💪🤘
If this was helpful to you make sure to check out my bigger drum recording courses inside KOHLE AUDIO KULT.
So much more information in there!
Great content as always 🤘
Really nice job. Sounds great!
Awesome Video Bro! This really helped me with some good tips that I need to listen for and thanks for the insight of the awesome plug in debleeder. I went and bought that plug in just to help a little more with taming those bleeds! Keep up the awesome work! 🤘
Enjoy Debleeder! It's great.
Great video as always 🔥
So Sick! Thank you, Kristian! 🙌
Thank you Kohle for the video. Limiter on overheads buss is what I was missing all this time.
This is great man! Definitely need to check out the kult. 🤘
Of course you should 🤘🤪.
Right now we’re mixing this:
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@@KohleAudioKult interesting! Really interested in yours and other engineers' approaches to mic placement and Mixing choices.
Wtf thats some fine drumming to begin with. Impeccable
Killer drum sounds🔥🔥
I like this organic, raw sound!
Man, you helped me a lot
Great video! Drums sounded so good and not everything was sample replaced
That’s how I always do it 💪❤️
great, awesome and so on!
Gosh! How good do those drums sound! This a fucking killer track!!!
Nice video, thank you 🍻🍻🍻
Stellar.
It‘s great to see that mixing drums is just finalizing a brilliant recording.
Keep it up.
Do the drummers you work with come with their own drumkit?
It's up to them. I do have a lot of drum gear that the drummers can use if they want though. I just wanna make sure we have a great sounding source.
Sounds so good
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Welcome!
We've got a bunch of cool stuff here! Enjoy your Grindstein!
Your tutorials ara amazingly useful.
The Anti 500 Gang!
sounds great man!
i use a fairly similar workflow
great freaking video!
Man, the drums sound sick.
I've got a notebook dedicated to just your channel. Eternally grateful! 🤘
The Unholy Notebook!
@@KohleAudioKult but very much worth it! You rock brother!
Those drums sound FEARS!!!🔥🔥🔥
That run through was awesome!! Excellent drummer! Spot on performance for sure. Prost! to the drum tech for the excellent job tuning. Other than one extra kick trigger and a different choice in plugins, these are the same techniques I employ for mixing all rock/metal tracks. The only thing that I see different, are the plug in choices that I typically make for some instances. These techniques work for all types of music gang. Also, I would like to point out that the drum recording sounds amazing with out the mix processing. That is key to getting this mix. Thank you for sharing your knowledge Sir! P.S. Give Post Modern from Toontracks a listen. I found some interesting tones there...Prost!
Thanks man!
Bring the beard back. That's the real reason those drums turned out so good. It's Winter. Bring the beard! :D
Haha! Scott found the Easter Egg (for Christmas) 🤘🤪❤️
@@KohleAudioKult That's my job! Haha!
@@ChernobylAudio666 I totally agree with Scott! Drums sound amazing because you was with the beard
Great video.
Straight 🔥
sick drum sound! :)
Super hilfreiches Video, vielen Dank dafür! 👍 Als Verbesserungsvorschlag hätte ich: Time Markers für die einzelnen Spuren in das Video machen. (Wäre super um beim Rumprobieren immer schnell die gesuchte Stelle zu finden...) Einen 🤟 Tag Dir noch!!!
Yo.. great video.. where can i get a tututorial on how to trigger and blend in snare samples over the top of the original snare track?
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Love that snare sound! I will join the academy as soon as I’m done writing my master degree essay, which eats my studio time 😂
Always welcome!
@@KohleAudioKult I already feel welcome! See you in 2023. Kram från Sverige!
Great mixing and great drummer !
Hi. Great video. Awesome info. How faders colour like track colour??
Hmmm...I tend to roll the bottom snare EQ to taste...as you move the HP up the scale you can hear the attack/tone of the snare change...give it a try. Very subtle but useful.
Your videos are always helpfull and really comprehensive. thank you a lot for making this, it has helped me many times. still, i would love instead of using certain plugins and demonstrating how they improve your bus, group or mixes if you would more fokus on the actual mechanics / meta level of what is happening here. Overall, it is quite clear, but here or there you just dial in a plugin instead of explaining the mechanics of what you listened to, what you want to improve, and what the mechanics of doing so would be.
anyways, thank you for your tips and tricks!
best regards, mitti
Hey man!
You might wanna check out the academy.
This is where you find the full courses by me and other mentors!
www.kohleaudiokult.com/
Fantastic video.
do you also happen to have a tutorial on how to mix Virtual drums?
or planning to upload one any time soon....
Yes, that’s planned. Together with a drum programming course inside Kohle Audio Kult
Awesome stuff! I'm curious about the Altiverb drum room approach there, what room are you using for that? Sounds great!
It’s one of the bigger studio rooms. I don’t recall which one. But they’re all cool. You just gotta make sure the ones you pick blends nice with your drums.
@@KohleAudioKult Killer, I'll look at that, I've only ever used Altiverb for like big church and mausoleum ambient sound design stuff, this is super clever! Do you do any additional processing in there? Like using the filters or mix knobs or the baseline EQ the plugin offers or do you just find a nice room and move on? :)
Those drums sounds absoloutly kick ass! Can u post info about your SSL Mixer? Is that plug in or hardware console with software controller?
That's a DSP based software console inside my SSL MX4 interface
That shit is crazy holy fuck
Hey Kristian, do you think you could solo some of the EQ bands when you show off Pro-Q? On-Off comparisons are great, but it would be handy to hear the moves in isolation as well.
I don’t like soloing the bands to be honest. It might be just me but the frequencies always seem to sound higher when soloed. That’s why I hardly do it.
Very good video! What do you use for triggering the snare samples?
Thanks! I do have several ways of doing this. It depends on the source.
I’ll release an „Audio to Midi“ course inside my academy coming up early February where I show this in detail.
www.kohleaudiokult.com/
A+ content
Hy Chris. Du kannst bei den Sound Toys PlugIns auf den Text des Parameters (Bsp. DECAY, MIX, LOW CUT bei Little Plate) clicken. Dann wird der numerische Wert sichtbar. Vielleicht weisst du es ja auch :).
LG
I find your approach to drum recording very refreshing. I feel like in most modern metal productions I keep hearing the same samples over and over, and I'm tired of that. You didn't even quantize those drums if my ears don't betray me, right?
Oh, and yeah: f*ck 500 Hz. I tend to cut that frequency so much you might wanna add some in mastering... 😅
Of course I fully agree! Both about not sample replacing everything and about 500HZ.
I do edit the drums through but try not to overdo it.
Love the snare, not really a fan of the triggered kick sound, but I get why it's necessary for the style. I wonder if there's a way to make the kicks sound more like they're a part of the kit, and less "detached"... Can't argue with the mix though, works like a charm.
Yeah, it just sounds quite “natural” again once you unsolo the drums.
And it makes the job so much easier.
Death Metal drummers all play with triggers live these days. That’s why it really makes no sense to mic their kicks.
@@KohleAudioKult and quantization is much easier ;-)
Awesome!
To put it shortly: How to mix metal drums?
Eq and distortion to taste, reduce 500 hz and Sample replace some stuff.
Haha! Next time I’ll just read your comment 🤪
Killer drummer, BTW 🤘
yeahhh cool
That darn drum leveler is expensive! Any alternatives? Also what other frequency cuts are almost essential for metal? Gonna go home and suck some 500hz out now haha
is it better to do just eq cuts with the fabfilter proq3 for example, and for boosting frecs an SSL eq or another to bring some character? cause I find that sometimes the boosting in proq3 sounds weird (just if you compare that same boost on other analog plugin)
Some people do that. I mostly use clean, digital EQs and a Pultec here and there
Hi! What is the theory behind lowering the 500 area for metal drums? Is it just your gut feeling, or is it competing with something else at this register?
That frequency just does not sound metal at all 😇
How are you getting the snare midi set up? Are you using anything like addictive trigger to map the midi from the real hits, and what do you use to load those samples?
It’s a lot of work to get it right and it’s not easy, believe me!
Especially if you just blend the samples instead of fully replacing the original.
Too much to be explained in a comment. I’m gonna release a course about how I do this inside Kohle Audio Kult next month though.
@@KohleAudioKult looking forward to it!
I've been watching you for years and somehow I'm not subscribed... sorry chum. Subscribed. Stay metal!
Welcome!
How did you achieve such a small amount of bleed in the snare mics during the recording ? Quite curious about that
I proper snare mic placement and a bit of luck I guess.
But keep in mind that ass soon as I engage "Drum Leveler" there's also a noise gate turned on!
What I don't get is using a plug-in in Cubase to narrow a stereo bus (the cymbals' l/r spread) when you can just close that up in the mix window. But I do commend your use of the world's coolest DAW.
Could be that the plugin separates and narrows based on frequency rather than in general
Yo Kristian, do you take mix and master projects? My band is recording a full length this year and we all love the sound of your mixes, if there’s a way to message you to discuss prices I’d be very interested!
Yea. But right now most of the studio work is handled by my colleagues. They kick ass though!
www.Kohlekeller.de
Maaannn you have samples for every hit and mics??? That's crazy! You can only achieve that kind of stuff with a really good deal with the devil!
I got that deal!
I usually use a lofi type reverb on the room mics to get the washy cymbal sounds, then limit/comp am I wrong?
Depends on how you do it. But that could be a nice approach in smaller rooms.
I gotta try that!
I'm gonna have to demand that you bring that evil ass beard back brother....just listen how bad ass those drum recordings were with that beard attending the session...Prost!
Haha! Yeah, that beard wasn't bad.
It might not cut as well but I liked the tracked kick sound
There is no tracked kick sound. This was a midi pad and no acoustic drum
@@KohleAudioKult Ah you said you tracked drums I figured you had original kick in there
those super-fast doublekick sections sound like when you misclick and accidentally loop-play .02 seconds of your song over and over.
Sounds great but I'm wondering one thing. There's no way that the snare top mic channel (SD HI) is really what has been recorded through the mic. It's clearly already sampled although some bleed can be heard in some parts quietly in the background. Even deBleeder can't make any snare mic that clean...or how is it done if not sampled?
Of course I t is the snare mic. Do you think I’m fooling you?
The multitracks are available inside Kohle Audio Kult and many people have already mixed the tracks themselves.
I would add one more Pro Q with a 500hz cut personally
Haha! 🥳 good one!
Do you or the artists you work with have a preferred kick drum trigger pad?
It's always the drummer who decides what to play. Most of the time i'm also using their triggering system.
@@KohleAudioKult Thanks for the response, Kristian. Are there any triggers you see more than others? I'm trying to get some of the local metal acts to track with kick triggers and would like to be able to make a recommendation.
Most drummers trigger with their pedals these days!
This is great and insightful! However, I do wonder what the ratio is of mixing-engineers vs homestudio recording artists. Like 1 person operations. It might be my perspective, being a 1 person home recording guy, but I think there are more like me than people with actual studios recording actual drums. So, maybe do a course for people who do (almost) everything in the box and work with sample libraries for drums?
If you record bands, you'll still record real drums. and it's so important to not just go the easy way and sample reaplce everything.
But yeah, we have already released the drum programming course with Misha Mansoor and will release more stuff for engineers who program drums.
@@KohleAudioKult Sure, I get what you're saying. If you record bands, you need to know how to record and mix drums (and the rest). But what if you're like me and many people I know, writing aways in your little homestudio (and knowing how to program and/or play drums) and just use, let's say, Toontrack drums. Or am I outnumbered by all real engineers here? Could easily be!
@@DEADLINETV Both types of engineers coexist and overlap. I'll make sure to make courses for all of them inside the Kult!
Im a cubase user and kinda giggle every time he opens the channel editor then closes it and open the next channel when he can just use the arrows on the top left of the channel editor to move thru channels
A DRAMATIC BRUTAL DRUM TONE SOUND! (i repeat "kohle is evil as fvck" xDD)
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I don't need millions of plug-ins. I only use ez mix 2 with ezdrummer 2 and that gets the job done for me. I don't know much about eq or other fx but at the end of the day, I get the result I want.
It's because someone has already used the plugins when making EZ drummer
@@KohleAudioKult Dude I only record in my bedroom for fun. I don't need to/have to learn everything that you know and I don't care.
Snare like a shotgun, kicks like a machine gun. It's the cymbals that get me 😂
ctrl + click on any knob for soundtoys plugin and it will show you a "value".
Or use the generic interface in Cubase. That helps sometimes
@@KohleAudioKult ProTools guy I didn't even know that existed, nice! There's also a "tweak" button on some soundtoys for in depth settings.
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Haha! He’s great!
I dare you to sit down and get drums for deathmetal sound as good at Kohles. Took me a yr with the best samples....and i still could be unhappy dont get me wrong it sounds good but cripe sake he mic the drums too my dudes....insane good. Distortion kinda like the mortar between bricks
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Oh man I wish you could share that snare drum sample
What about this one?
Here's the FATTEST SNARE SAMPLE with attitude! (free download)!
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@@KohleAudioKult this one is really good, but i fell in love with this ringy snare you recorded
@@dmytromats3690 The snare from the link above is way more ringy! check it out!
Man he really looks like Jamie Lidell maybe long lost brothers
Soooo keep all of the 500hz frequency...
Got it.
Haha
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‘You Don’t need to use loads of plug ins to make your drums sound big’
-uses loads of plug ins 😂
Yeah sure, but you wanna know who's got the best drums? Listen to Vampyr... the production on the Cry Out For Metal album has some of the best drums that were ever mixed
Why do you use Pro Q 1, Pro Q 2 and Pro Q 3, why not only use Pro Q 3 ?
Old habits.
Mixing drum tip n°1: find an incredible drummer able to play insane stuff with a super polished style. Put him in a good sounding room, on a well tuned drumkit...
Record. Open a beer. Most of the job's done X)
I like the beer part!
What always drives me nuts is making these types of drums not completely devour the rms headroom
Is he using cubase?
Yes, he is