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- The Behringer Flow 8 has been the most popular digital audio mixer we've ever covered here on the channel. Every few months, it seems a new batch of folks discover it or get their hands on one for the first time & have lots of great questions. Leave your questions here if you've got them!
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I have had this for several months now and have had nothing but problems figuring out the FX. But this video explained it simple and quickly. The only video to do that. Thank you!
That’s awesome, thanks for the message Rick 👍🏼
I'm really happy I found your videos. It's really informative, sharp to the point, educational and entertaining. Thanks a lot for the great work
Appreciate the message, thanks for watching!
Hi mate!
A really big thank you for answering my comment and even going all the way and adding my comment to your video!
I really appreciate it and it's been the same for me here in South Africa. I have bought this mixer based on your explicit explanations and overall amazing videos and tutorials!
Really appreciate it and if I have any further questions I will make sure to post a quick comment as well.
Thanks mate!
That's great to hear! Good to hear there is availability in South Africa too, I know a lot of folks were waiting for them. Thanks again for the message & please do stay in touch in the future. Hope you have a great weekend!
@@DcSoundOp awesome mate!
You as well!
I bought this mixer to run my dj/karaoke show. It does a fantastic job as a basic mixer, and a great job mixing vocals and fx in with a good quality karaoke track. However, the game changer feature of this board is the ability to multi-track record. People have been blown away when I hand them a mixed version of their karaoke performance, (mixed on my imac in my studio from the live tracks the Flow 8 produced). My friends who do solo and duo acoustic shows have seen my mixer. I showed them how this mixer is really perfect for that use. The ALL went out and bought one of their own. Thanks for your video. I am going to explore the fx to monitor functionality, although I rarely use fx in the monitors. Also, thanks for mentioning the standby function. I was not aware of that feature, it's nice to know about it in case I need it. Great vid..!
Thanks for the message, it’s great to hear you’re having success with the mixer. Stay in touch!
I wanted to get this for some family karaoke nights do you recommend a system that doesn't have a screen/speaker already built in?
@@damonluvisi if you understand how to use a live sound mixer like this one, it works very well for mixing a vocal microphone with karaoke music. If you are new to doing this you might be better off with a system that is custom made for doing karaoke. A system that "has it all" will be easier to use, it just might not sound as good. My suggestion is to read the reviews on the other systems you are looking at and see how the people who bought it like it. I have decades of experience playing in bands, running live sound, and recording and mixing in my studio, so I kind of know my way around this kind of gear. So, when I wanted to add karaoke to my DJ music services it was easy for me to just use this kind of board to do it. This board is very easy to learn how to use and it does a fantastic job, but you might be better off with a simpler karaoke setup for your family nights. I hope that helps you out.
Thank you for mentioning this. I run an audio interface into my iPad with Cubasis for most of my current recording (which ends up on TH-cam). If I could swap out the Flow 8 for my audio interface this would have the huge advantage of being an identical setup (the iPad would then run the app rather than Cubasis). I'm getting a Flow 8 to check this exact functionalit very soon now.
Thank you so much for the comprehensive video. Before I purchase one I was wondering if you can control the sends going to the headphone output, using it for IEMs. Thanks again.
Can I use that with live acoustic setup like 2 vocals 2 guitar 1 keyboard any 1 drum pad . Connected to two main out and two monitor for vocals ? Thanks
Thanks for a great series of videos on this mixer. What is the implication of the guitar icon on the line level stereo inputs? Seems odd unless they are Hi-Z inputs when you use them in mono?
Yes, exactly
Simple question for you please I hooked mine up to Auria in my iPad the level from my mic output seems low how can I adjust this? Dosnt seem to straight forward. Thanks in advance.
First of all, thanks for all the videos on the mixer! You've been very helpful when it comes to shopping for one of these. One important question: Have you seen a vast difference in sound quality between inputs 1 and 2 with the MIDAS preamps and inputs 3 and 4 that supposedly do not have the MIDAS preamps? Maybe a topic for a future video? Thanks in advance!
There is certainly a difference between the first two inputs and inputs 3/4. That being said, I wouldn't put too much stock in the first two having anything to do with 'Midas preamps' as they literally slap that sticker on everything these days. Actual Midas preamps still cost around $200 per channel and the preamps in this mixer are much more similar to each other than either of them are to the preamps you'll find in an XL or Heritage console from their heyday.
Hi dear ... there a way to paring / use the channel 3 and 4 as an Stereo channel (for example to use 3 keyboards)?
Hi, thanks, would it be possible to plug a stereo synth to 3 and 4 via the 1/4” and pan them permanently left and right to be treated as a stereo channel?
Also is it class conpliant and works well with ipad daws?
I appreciate for the featured comment in this video. I think it's good to note where manufactures can't just do everything due to many reasons.
Very glad I found your channel. I'm probably a few months away from purchasing one. Do you see good value in this mixer for streaming? Not sure if others would be interested in a video utilizing this for Zoom, Teams, or other broadcast type use cases which is my plan.
Hey Damon, thanks for the message. The FLOW 8 works well for what you're looking to do. The one here stays on the second workstation (27" iMac) specifically for zoom, teams and other video meetings. It has been really flexible and quick to recall the presets needed for whatever is happening on that computer.
Definitely useful for streaming. I use this mixer for streaming music performance.
How reliable is the bluetooth connection in terms of distance and tendency to dropout?
Great Content, I have question for flow 8, how to do streaming and recording at the same time ? when usb is using for the multitrack daw and the main output to Speaker, can we feed the OBS/Yolobox from monitor or headphone?
You'd probably need a slightly more flexible mixer to stream and multitrack at the same time easily. The workaround I can think of (assuming you're not already maxing out the ins and outs) would be to use multitrack mode, then patch Mon 1 output in to a spare channel... that would get Mon 1 mix into the computer via that channel's send to the computer so you can route it to the stream in OBS.
Hi Thanks for all the videos. Is there any way of controlling how much of the fx are sent to the monitors separate to the mains
In the routing page under settings you can choose where to send the EFX - to mons, mains or both, but that's it.
I salute you. I also have a question. In manual gain, if I connect a Pioneer xdj rx2 on line channel 7/8, for example the master in Pioneer rx2 and gain on channels, at what volumes should it be? What about speaker volumes? In my case active rcf. Thanks
Great video. I've got a question for you regarding the preferences in the mixer app:
What does the settings "mixer app link" and "finer sliders" do?
/Rasmus
Mixer app link…. Links the mixer to the app. So if you change layers on one, the other follows. Fine sliders makes the faders longer so you have finer resolution to work with.
Thank you very much for your videos. My questions is how to use feedback when i am too close to loudspeaker. Thank you very much !
Thanks for the question! The best way to eliminate feedback is to avoid creating it. If you know the issue, can you avoid getting close to the speaker? Of course before any performance, it is a good idea to 'ring out' the system if you're experiencing feedback. That entails carefully running up each mic to where it just starts to feedback, and then use the EQ to carefully notch out that frequency. You can use an RTA app on your phone to identify the frequency while you train your ears to recognize the frequencies in the future. The more you do this, the easier it gets... but positioning the speakers so they are not pointed into the microphones is still the best defense.
I have a question about the 1/4 inch 5/6 and 7/8 inputs, basically I’m trying to get audio in from a 1/8 TRS to a split 1/4 TS using channels 5/6. When I do this I only get audio out of the the left side (5). Wondering if I’m missing something in the app. I’ve tried multiple versions of the stereo split cable. Essentially I’m trying to get audio from an old MP3 players stereo headphone jack into the FLOW 8. Thanks for your time.
In my opinion, Id use a cable that is 1/8 trs to a L/R 1/4 inch and use channel 5&6 as left/right
That's exactly what I'd want to do. It's the common and very basic way to get backing tracks, intermission music or jam tracks (semantics) into the mixer, any mixer, from a iPad, MP3 player or computer (or any device with a stereo 1/8 in headphone jack). If you can't get both channels 5 and 6 (so that would probably mean the same would apply for channels 7 and 8) to supply signal to BOTH channels it's a deal killer. BUT are you getting your entire mix (L&R) into that channel 5 but as a mono mix? And, is that channel able to be panned hard left or right? Many performers pan music to one side and click to the other side and send the music panned side out to the main mixer of FOH. Did you try using several different devices as well? Did you figure this out?
pls can you somehow use channels 1 & 2 for a line input? thx =)
Can this really record each channel out over usb? So this is like an 8 channel audio interface as well?
Secondly, can this do usb loopback live monitoring? So we hear the sound after the DAW and VST plugins tak effect?
Hi! Thank you for your videos. I have a question. How can I mapping the flow 8 to integrate with a midi controller (xtouch mini or onother similar). Thank you.
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Great Videos. I'm not sure if I missed it but can either of the Mon 1 or 2 Mixes be routed to the PC via USB ? Is that a feature that could be implemented in future updates? I'm really interested in this feature.. Thanks
The only way I've found to do that so far, is to put it in recording mode so you're getting each channel back over USB to the DAW. Then a short 1/4" patch cable from the monitor outputs back into two unused channels, which put them on the corresponding USB channels into the computer. Not ideal, but it does work.
@@DcSoundOp Thanks. That helps and confirms stuff in my mind.
Fascinating about Standby, did not know that. Can you still get full 48 V phantom on 1/2 when running it from a (2A) battery pack?
Yes, phantom works fine as long as the battery pack is appropriately sized and specced as you suggested. Thanks Ed.
is it possible to use all 8 channels seperately? like a scenario could be mics on 1 & 2. synth on 3+4, digital drums on 5+7 and guitar bass on 6+8.
The stereo channels are paired and you cannot break them in the current firmware, but other than that, there is nothing stopping you from doing what you're asking.
If I use it as an audio interface with Ableton Live are there only two outs? Or does it give you four outputs (main left & right, monitor 1 & 2)? I am keen to use something like this to send Stereo tracks to front of house as well as a third channel running click track. Currently I use a Scarlett 2i4.
Yes, there are two pairs of returns from the computer that you can assign to channels and then route to L/R or monitors as needed. They come back as USB 1/2 & 3/4 and cannot be broken from their pairs. Thanks for the great question!
@@DcSoundOp thank you so much for the response, I really appreciate it!🙌
Hello from Holland... is there any way that the stereochannels can be routed so that they can be used as separate mono channels and thus revving up the amount of mono inputs to 8?..TIA..:)
Hello in Holland Lucas, it’s a beautiful time of year to be in the Netherlands 🇳🇱🌷 Unfortunately you cannot separate the stereo channels at this time. Not sure if it’s something they can address in firmware, but currently it’s not possible. Thanks for watching & commenting!
Just got the Flow 8 and making slow progress with it. Is there a specific footswitch that works best with it. Have to say there appears to be only a small amount of info available for this mixer which does not make life easy. Thanks
Hi Mike, hopefully this helps a bit - www.dcsoundop.com/flow-8-footswitch/ - I hate recommending Facebook for anything, but are you a member of the FLOW-8 user groups there? There isn't any great documentation, but a lot of users who are pretty familiar with the mixer and generally eager to help. Thanks for the message, I'm glad you found these videos!
@@DcSoundOp Hi Thanks for this, I'll certainly check it out. I know JUST what you mean about faceache too!
Hi, I don't get those wave curves when adjusting my EQ like you do...I just get the four dots moving up and down. I have tried on two ipads and my iphone 13. Is there a setting for this? Thanks for all your help!
Hey Carlos, I was running a Beta version of the App, the current version does not shade in the EQ curves, so you’re not going crazy 😂 Thanks for the message!
Greetings, is there a high pass filter on the effects processors? When using effects live especially cathedral or hall, the low end has to be cut off of that reverb signal or the low end on the reverb will cause phase cancellation and sound boomy as well.
Ron, there is no HPF on the effects returns. You can download the control app and run it in demo mode to see how everything works if you have other questions about similar functionality. Hope that helps.
@@DcSoundOp Many Thanks
I am in total agreement with you. Hopefully Behringer will add a High Pass Filter on the effects edit page. I play acoustic guitar and I boost the bass on my instrument, I don't want that bass boost lingering in the reverb.
Love this little mixer! I do seem to have a glitch that I can not find any information on. I didn't know if you could somehow help or point me to someone that can.
When viewing the 4 band EQ on the combo channels,3 &4, show the four bands read 0Hz rather than 100Hz, 500Hz, 2000Hz, & 12000Hz like the rest of the channels. The text is also blue, which normally is white. I don't know if that means something or not. When moving each 0Hz band slider, they don't respond as change as they should.
I have the latest app software and mixer firmware. I have re-updated them both in case there were any glitches.
Tap on any of the four eq frequency areas and they will expand to let you set the frequency, band width and gain.
Great tutorials! I find everything on the mixer super intuitive except for the master limiter. It’s very finicky to set thresholds and seems to switch from super squashed to off whenever it feels like it. Any tips?
Can Bluetooth be used as a line level input? In other words, can I stream a karaoke track from my phone to the F8 which then mixes it with the mic vocals to output through the master mix out?
I answered this exact question from you a week ago on another video... did you see my response there?
Hello, thanks for all this, very helpfull... I have a problem getting connected with Cubasis 2 on the Ipad pro. Cubasis rcognises the Flow 8 (recording) but I cant seem to set the gain of the inputs?? Anybody know about this/ TIA..
So in recording mode you're getting the direct outs of each channel right after the pre-amp, so the only gain control you have there is the input gain on the individual channels. Setting a healthy gain there that is not clipping will give you enough level going to the computer as well as being the proper level for sending through to your main, monitor & efx. buses too.
Let me know if that isn't answering your question though. Thanks for watching!
the mystery has been solved... There is sound coming into Cubasis, the program just doesnt show a waveform upon receiving..: sigh... thanks again!
Uch I think I'm going to have to hold my nose and buy one of these for an install. There's just nothing else I can find with the same features in the same footprint at the same price. Goddamn you, Behringer.
What are the features you're looking for? Based on your implications, I take it you're not a dealer for Music Tribe 😂
I would hesitate to buy one of these and pass it on to an install client when they won't be able to register it for warranty. You certainly won't find the same functionality at this price in install gear, but install gear is expensive for a number of really legitimate reasons when it comes to supporting the tech years down the road.
@@DcSoundOp Ha, no not a dealer or an installer of any kind. Just your average Behringer-bashing enginerd who got roped into specifying a system for a synagogue install. We need one or two mic inputs, main and auxiliary output mixes (PA and stream), remote control, basic DSP on the inputs and outputs, and as few physical controls to screw up as possible.
Their main sanctuary system cost them in the high five figures, so they're going a different route on this much smaller system in a much smaller room. Their hopeful budget is CAD$3500, including a mic, mixer/dsp, speakers, amplification, interconnects and hardware.
I'll also be specifying a second option with some install-grade zone DSPs but frankly those are less appealing, and not just because they're two-to-four times the price. They also require rack space and running more wires in walls and permanently installing zone controllers. Also, installation gear is generations behind on connectivity and the DSP control software tends to have strong Windows 95 vibes (although I do very much like Phoenix terminals).
Stashing a Flow8 in a cubby at the back of the chappel and controlling it with bluetooth is far more appealing, even if it means buying a new one in a couple of years when it inevitably fails, because, you know; Behringer.
Truth be told, taking this gig has taught me just how little I know about the installation market. I don't even know where to buy column-style array loudspeakers or which amps to pair them with. I'm a complete newb again.
I finally got mine and these series of videos helped a lot. Is there a way to connect to the mixer with the app without having GPS enabled? I don't understand why it would have to be. Did I miss the fine print ?
AFAIK, you do still need to give location services permission to the app when first installing.
It doesn't "connect" in demo mode or otherwise unless Gps is enabled. Rather annoying .. Oh well.
It won't connect to anything in Demo mode, that is literally just to demo the app for folks who do not have the mixer yet. But yes that is what I said, you need to allow location services for it to work.
@@DcSoundOp I know that's why I put it in quotes. I guess I should have said the app won't fully launch to the main controls screen.. Either way. It's your channel that helped a lot. I just thought I'd highlight that issue in the comments. So that other would know what they're getting into . Keep up the good work.
Can you stereo pair channels 3 and 4 also? I'd need 3 stereo channels for 3 synths.
Is there any options to use solo button on the mixing desk? Because I can see only the one option is from the mobile app mute and unmute solo button.
No, AFAIK you have to use the App to solo channels. I sent this one back to them a long while ago now, so there may have been a firmware update since, but this really isn't a mixer I would recommend trying to use without the app. Thanks for the great question though.
@@DcSoundOp Really missing this...
I'm thinking about purchasing this for my DJ setup. Is there a way to pan each individual channel to left right main. But just leave a mic on balanced??
Hi, yes absolutley. You should download the free app and have a look around at what controls are available before buying it though, you might get a better idea of what it can do that way. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video . I would like to know if I could use it in any other Daw like FL studio, Pro tools or Cubase... and can it Work with the mixer from the daw on the screen like the Original app.
Great question! I'm interested in this running into Cubasis on an iPad, which raises the question of running the Flow 8 app AND Cubasis on the same tablet. Cubasis runs in background so it should work, but I'll be very interested to see if this does actually work in practice. An identical recording and live setup (i.e. using the same effects for recording and live) would be very helpful to me.
You can certainly use the FLOW 8 with iOS and android tablets, and any apps that work on them will use this as an audio interface as normal. I'm not sure what you're asking though with "can it Work with the mixer from the daw on the screen like the Original app"- can you explain a bit more about what you're trying to do here?
You can absolutely run other apps along with the control app for the Flow 8. An audio interface with a control app does not break iOS's ability to multi-task.
@@DcSoundOp Very useful info, thx!
@@DcSoundOp Thank you
what about fx setup memory after switch off mixer? all setup is resets?
How reliable has been for important streams does it gives conection or audios issues?
Have not heard of anyone reporting any reliability issues during streaming. However, if your stream is really mission critical, it would be worth looking at more advanced systems that you can build redundancy into. Even the most expensive gear can fail unexpectedly when you go Live.
Hello just wonder if I can use a inear system on the flow 8.. did not see knops to put sound and voice on the way that you can mix in the ear. Thx b
Absolutely, In-Ear monitors either wired or wireless are usually run off of a stereo aux pair - so in this case you would use Mon -1 and Mon-2 mixes as the stereo pair by linking them in the routing page. You'd then connect each output with a balanced 1/4 TRS cable to your in-ear monitor headphone amp, or wireless transmitter. Does that help or are you asking about something different? All the best Rob!
@@DcSoundOp thx for your kindness to explain how a inear would work, if I understand meanwhile you sing you can independently manage de volume separate ( voice and music) in your ear by the routing page..normally you have 2 knobs to adapt. Thx for reacting, preciate! Rob
I recently bought flow 8 recently and new to it. I am struggling with connecting this mixer to an home amplifier system for purpose using it as a karaoke system. I have not seen any video talk about this basic function. Can you help?
Hi Subhash, what basic function are you asking about? This mixer was not designed for Karaoke specifically, or for connecting to home entertainment systems. At very least, I'd imagine you'll need to go into the preferences and use the output PADs to reduce the signal from pro-line level to consumer line level. That may help, but without knowing what you are trying to connect to, I'd be guessing to say more.
Hi, thinking of getting one of these as a backup for a solo singer using backing tracks. How would I get a summed stereo signal on the outputs when using a single speaker? Both mixers I have used before, soundcraft and Dynacord accomplish this quite simply but I see no option on the Flow 8. In your opinion are the pre-amps good enough for this purpose?. thanks, Jeremy.
Eh, if you're used to mixers with more features and routing, I would skip this one, it doesn't have tons of that. Without knowing your personal preferences and all, it's hard to comment on mic preamps at such a low price point. They are all very very similar & usually only a very small part of what affects the sound an audience is hearing at a live gig. That being said, if you are seriously concerned about mic preamps and sound quality, the lowest priced Behringer mixers may not be the best choice for your needs.
@@DcSoundOp At present using a Dynacord CMS1000-3 but just looking for a backup in case of failure. Probably just go with a yamaha analogue. Just liked the look of the little flow 8. Good price too, as most likely never get used.
@@rockbyter2011 If it's only for a backup and likely not going to be used often, then I would absolutely go with the small analog Yamaha. If you go long periods without using this one, when you do need it, you'll also need the latest version of the control app for your phone or tablet, which requires the mixer to have up-to-date firmware to work correctly.
Hi - Your video helped me in my decision to purchase this device, so thank you. One of the first "issues" I had was when initially unboxing was I sat the unit flat on my desk and couldn't get my iPhone to stand upright supported with the 2 little black restraints. I immediately thought I need a slimmer case for my iPhone? so I operated the phone separately on my desk. It wasn't until I plugged in a few Jacks and XLR's I found they acted as a rear support to the phone and hey presto! - Just thought I'd share that to any others unboxing. Peter.
Thanks for the message Peter. I can see how that would be a bit confusing if you didn't have anything plugged in!
Is there any way to power cycle it without unplugging the cable? The closest I've found is holding mon1 and then menu and it puts it in standby, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. I'd like a full reboot for when the bluetooth won't connect since this usually fixes it.
Besides an external switch, or a power strip with a switch… there is no other way.
Can Flow8 be used for video recording and streaming by conecting the flow8 directly to an android device to send a mixed audio single (I am do to mean to manipulate mixer's controls through wireless connection) to the android camera recording.
Yes, you can do that in streaming mode on this mixer. Thanks for the question!
Can I send both the main L/R XLR outputs (balanced) to a home stereo input device that accepts as input (unbalanced) either a jack stereo or RCA L/R? My thought here is using a cable adapter to connect both XLR to a jack stereo or RCA R/L. Thank you
Yes, you can absolutley do that. You would just need an XLR to RCA adapter for each of the L/R sides. Something like this should work... amzn.to/3R51SYC (that's an affiliate link).
I am playing tracks from my pc via USB, for some reason, I can't see how to turn off effects for the USB input, I am BT also connected, and I can turn on/off FX for BT, just not USB. Any suggestions?
Can you use all of the input? with sperated fader and fx?
Thanks
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking, can you explain a bit more about what you're trying to do? Sorry for the confusion.
is there a way to bypass the lowcut filter for the monitors?
No, if you apply a HPF to a channel it affects everything downstream.
Good evening I've been told now you can have the USB on a fader so when you put the laptop connected USB you can have the music coming out on a Fader because if that's true that is fantastic
Yes, USB 1/2 can go to channels 5/6 and 2/4 can be assigned to Ch 7/8. It has been this way for sometime now. I believe we covered it in one of the firmware update videos here on the channel last year. Thanks for watching!
@@DcSoundOp thank you ever so much for getting back to us it's because I'm going to be using this for a radio online and I need to make sure I've just got the laptop microphone and my music playing but I need to fade the music down but keep the microphone on and the only problem I've got right now is trying to figure out how to set up my jingles on the flow 8 cos he's no pads or buttons for it not that I know of
From the board, how do you choose inputs 5, 6, 7, or 8? Once selected, can you use the slider under it to control?
I'm not sure I understand the question... the last two faders on the board are 5/6 and 7/8. Let me know if I'm not getting what you're asking though & I'll try to help.
Can I include the instrument on 7, without increasing any volume to 8? OR are 7-8 just always together
Hi how can I fix a buzz. Even when all channels are turned down there's still a buzz from main output
Are the first two preamps Real Midas or designed by Midas? These days behringer seems to use the Midas Logo a lot, and I understand that but its hard to differentiate on what you are really buying...
These are Behringer mic-pres... regardless of who's intellectual property they xeroxed before the bean counters started substituting parts and processes to get the cost down this far. It's all marketing. See my video about the Soundcraft/Lexicon/DBX/DigiTech Ui12 mixer, most of the big old companies have been bought and sold so many times over now it's a joke trying to keep up with who 'designed' what.
@@DcSoundOp therefore Even the X air Mr18 doesn't have real midas pres nor anything in these price ranges. But still all of them sound descent...
I read that the effects can be only post not pre me that I want 1 effect for my laptop for karaoke and 1 effect for the in ear monitors it will be a problem that it will be only post not pre or not me my problem is I don't want to hear noises when I open my microfone to my in ears for this reason I want different effect what is your opinion i would be satisfied with this mixer or not?
Very good Videos Thank you ! May be you can help me. I am using my Flow 8 on Stage with 2 Aktive Speakers MAIN OUT. At the same time I have a Split cable coming from Phones Output into 2 Stereo OUT. One Stereo Out I use as a kind of Monitor. The other stereo out goes to my Taskam for Recording my Live Performance. The Problem is that the Signal is far too loud and I get distortion, even if I turn the input Volume to ZERO. I could turn the Volume of the Headphone down. - But then the signal is to weak for my Monitoring.
Is there a way to copy the main Signal to the Monitor Outputs and record from there with a decent LEVEL . I am using this kind of monitoring because i can control the loudnes imediately wth on physical knob. And its a kind of mirror what is going to the main outputs. Do you have an Idea for what could be best for me. Thank you
Hi, thanks for the message. For making a copy of the main mix for monitoring, you can simply set the monitor send to (post fader) and then bring each channel fader on that send up to unity - this will give you a mix that follows whatever happens on the main mix - if you bring a channel up or down on the main mix, it will reflect the same change in the monitor send. Often we use Pre-Fade sends for monitors so you can build a mix that includes only what you need, but if the house mix works for you, that's fine to do it post-fade.
You could use another post-fade send to record a similar copy of the main mix, tweaking things as needed for the recording by moving the faders for that send up or down a little bit from the unity position. i.e. if the guitar is screaming loud in the room, you might need more in the recording than you are putting through the main speakers.
Let me know if I've misunderstood what you're asking though.
Thank you it seems to work fine ! I have one more Querstion : Ist it possible to connect to the App via bluetooth with different android and apple devices at the same time to controll the knobs and faders. I Tried I pad and Android Pad but I could not connect at the same time. As soon as I put my flow 8 in Blutooth pairing app the device that is already conected looses connectivity @@DcSoundOp
Hey there, we have a problem with connecting to dj controller pioneer ddj ergo through jack 6mm. The sound coming is so lame like we hear only background of it. But the cable and dj controller themselves work alright with the old non digital mixer. What is wrong?
Sounds like something is wrong with your mixer or the cable you are using. Would need a fair bit more detail to be able to begin to diagnose the issue, but have you reached out to Music Tribe for support?
It appears an Iphone is the first choice vs Ipad as all the TH-cam do not show an Ipad for the control app. Is there an advantage using an Iphone? What is Flow LE in the Bluetooth settings?
Hey Dave, I answered your question directly in the latest video - th-cam.com/video/kHwAXXc3QbY/w-d-xo.html - just trying out a new format to see if folks like it. Thanks again for the great question!
Hi.Its possible to use Usb phone charger to power flow8? Is safety or better to use the original ac adapter?
You can use other power supplies, as long as it can deliver the same power. The original was rated 5V at 2 amps / 10 Watts.
Is it possible to connect 2 headphones at the same time. How to do it. Thanks
You could use a splitter cable.
Hi.I have one question.Its possible to use phone usb charger for power on flow8? Is safety or original adapter is better to use?
You can use other power supplies, as long as it can deliver the same power. The original was rated 5V at 2 amps / 10 Watts.
Can the Flow 8 be Bluetooth to powered Bluetooth speakers while still in control via IPhone or iPad?
Hey, thanks for the question. The FLOW does not do Bluetooth output, unfortunately.
I'm a little confused about how to store snapshots into particular onboard slots and then how to subsequently rearrange them...
Good question, I do not believe it is possible to do that with the latest firmware. Might be a good question for the FB Flow 8 user groups though?
Good q. What I‘d like to see in a new firmware update would be the option to copy a single channel from a snapshot. It‘s a bit of a pain when you have like your vocals set up nice and right and you then forget you‘ll be playing your guitar, which you already have a snapshot for on another channel. There is no way to copy the guitar channel from that snapshot into your vocals snapshot but this must be possible in software (it‘s just a bunch of data). Does Behringer have like a suggestion channel or something?
@@mikesrandomchannel Another thing I don't quite understand, or perhaps misunderstand is how the "safes" work when loading snapshots. Context: I'm basically using the Flow 8 as an effects unit for an acoustic drum set in live performance, including a send/return to an external effect (monitor2/channel7). What I want to be able to do is load all the routing and FX levels, etc., but not the channel volume levels when recalling a snapshot. The problem seems to be that if I make "CH" safe, none of the FX levels get recalled. I haven't had a chance to fully confirm this and/or figure a workaround, other than loading the CH settings. Can anyone clarify this issue?
Is it possible behringer will increase the number of effects on the flow 8 and if possible that would be very great👍👍👍
I wouldn't expect them to be able to add much more to the existing hardware, but who knows honestly, they could surprise us someday!
Just adding per-channel effects would be so useful. At the moment, you can‘t really use any of the specialised effects unless you are just playing one instrument into it. Which kinda makes me ask why it has so many inputs. If you had a small band plugged into this - vocals, guitar and keyboard - you‘d have to pick two effects (FX1 and FX2) that worked with all your instruments, which of course is only basically reverb and then maybe chorus for the guitar and the keys and vocals don‘t use it (gain set to 0 dB). It‘s better than nothing but a bit frustrating. Probably technically way more expensive than I am imagining!
Hey!! Can you tell me how you got that mute button on the main mixer page on the app please?!
In the App.... go to Setup --> Preferences --> the last thing on the bottom right if you scroll down should be [Show Mute] --> check that box. Thanks for the message Tom!
@@DcSoundOp found it.What a muppet i am lol thankyou!
are you able to link faders?
No, the current software doesn't allow you to link channels as pairs (or break the two stereo channels). Great question, thanks so much for watching!
I just bought this. I connected it to my mac, have a mic with phantom power, and am trying to use it with obs. I can’t seem to figure out how to do any effects, limiters, etc. Nothing I do on the app, except gain, does anything to my voice. I don’t understand how to use this thing.
It sounds like you are in recording mode, which gives you direct outputs from the mixer to your computer over the USB. You might prefer Streaming mode where you send the l/r mix to the computer? Make sure you update to the latest firmware first so you've got all of the latest features.
@@DcSoundOp Yes. Thats what it was. Thanks. So, in recording mode, you can’t edit the voice and record that in, say, a daw? Not sure what recording mode is for.
The point of record mode is that most people do not want to record effects and compression and all of that into their DAW. Most folks want to record a dry signal from the interface, and use the DAW to process the sound & add efx later. If you instead are going live to a stream or have another reason you'd want to do the processing in the mixer, that is where streaming mode comes in. You could do it either way in OBS, since it allows you to add processing to the audio channels too. That eats up more computing power though, and isn't as convenient as having something dedicated like the Flow. Ultimately it is up to you how you want to work, but that's what the modes do.
@@DcSoundOp Awesome. Finally, someone can offer some clarity to someone like me who doesn’t know all that much about sound mixing. Thanks.
Happy to help, stay in touch if you get stuck anywhere else!
I have this mixer currently and have been able to make it work powered speakers but not passive ones. Does anyone know why?
This mixer will work fine with passive speakers, but you'd need an amplifier of course between the mixer and the actual speaker. Powered speakers have the amplifier inside, but the signal chain is the same... Mixer - amplifier - speaker. Hope that helps.
@@DcSoundOp Thank you for your quick response! Do you have any recommendations for which amplifier I should use? I'm relatively new to sound systems and things of this nature. So any context would be greatly appreciated!
Hey can this mixer be hooked up to subs as a post send?
Sure thing, you could use one of the aux sends to do a post fade aux to sub set up 👍
Great videos on the Flow 8 and I‘ve learned a lot. But the two effects channels are a real limitation, I guess $250 doesn‘t buy per-channel effects. Question is: what would you need to pay for something that does that? As a singer/songwriter I find the two fx busses incredibly limiting and also a bit pointless: you can‘t even use the first effect, Ambience, because you‘d have to choose Vocal or Instrument for that effect, as you only get it in FX1. Your thoughts here would be very useful!
Thanks for the message. Per channel plugins are not something you're going to find in entry level mixers unfortunately. For most uses on a small mixer two effects engines is more than enough, and that extra processing costs real money. I'm not sure I'm following why you're saying one of the effect engines is useless either, can you explain more about what you're trying to accomplish? I'll see if I can suggest something that would work better than this.
@@DcSoundOp Wow thx for replying so quickly! Yeah sure. Let‘s just say I want to use the Ambience setting for my guitar plugged into Channel 1 and vocal mic plugged into Channel 2. It‘s on FX1, so I can‘t pick it twice, only once. Well, Ambience has an Instrumental OR Vocal setting. So whichever one I pick, it will sound “wrong” on one of those channels. And if I want to use, say, Guitar Reverb, that means I have only one more effect for everyone else and that effect cannot be a reverb. So my guitar has a reverb on FX1 and my vocals have … nothing! It’s a weird choice to have the effects busses hard-wired like this. Just one set of effects and two busses with any of those effects would have made more sense, surely?
Yeah, your original assumption was right.... you're looking for a mixer with WAY more flexibility than this price point is going to offer. They way they've configured this is extremely common in smaller mixers for live sound. There is also no reason to think using a verb they've labeled instrument or vocal will be *wrong* if used on the opposite source. There is no reason you should be able to share a verb between vocals and guitar for a singer songwriter gig on a small mixer... unless you are trying to achieve specific guitar effects, in that case a verb pedal for the guitar would be the simple and cheaper choice than a bigger more capable mixer.
@@DcSoundOp I did a bit of online research just now but basically could have waited for your reply 😀 Yeah, the various verbs work well enough and I’ve even found adding a tiny bit of a second FX2 effect like the echoes to the vocal sounds good, too. I’m pretty happy though since I also contribute the odd instrument to live sets and having those presets on the mixer ready to go for different instruments is just fantastic. Plus of course with this I can play around with songs without my iPad and interface, all in all pretty good.
@@DcSoundOp Hi again, can I ask if you covered getting a mono out from the Flow? Like if I am playing a bunch mono of instruments but want to keep the line to the mixer guy simple. Would the best bet be the left-hand Main Out or should I go for a Mon 1 or 2 out? Only thing is Mon 1/2 outs are not balanced, right? Hoping you‘ve covered this…
Just bought this mixer but power not coming on,any problem?
Are you using the power supply that came with the mixer?
Is it possible to turn on 48v ?
Hey Sara, absolutely. In the app you can toggle 48v on and off for channels 1&2. If this isn't what you were asking, let me know!
An option for the monitor sends to follow main LR level would be super awesome, could you pass it on to behringer?
On the latest FW versions, you can put the mon sends into post fade mode, set them to unity and those outputs will track post fader of the channels fader position on the main layer - creating what you’re looking to do 👍🏼 thx for the message!
@@DcSoundOp That's close to what i'm after, but i want the monitor 1 master level to follow the main LR level. So if I turn down the Master, the monitor 1 master follows. I'm trying to aux feed subs and want the master to control the monitor 1 output. On the X/M32 series, this is achieved by setting Mono/Center follows Main LR
@@ewsclass6679 yeah, that’s asking a lot from this little guy I think.
@@DcSoundOp do you think a low cut option instead of some parametric bands would be reasonable on the outputs?
Will this work on a PlayStation 5 as a mixer?
How would you want to use it with a PS-5? If you can give me some details on what you're looking to route to where, I'll try to get you answers.
@@DcSoundOp thanks for replying back 🙏 and using the flow 8 as the main mixer for voice chat ingame and party chat
Can a dj use this for an event?
Absolutely, though a dedicated dj mixer might be easier depending on your style.
im a mobile dj i do weddings debut corporate i have 2 CV 15" Top 1 sub can this flow 8 can do the Job? with a max poeple 150 to 200?
You are missing the point of the question of sending fx to mon in PRE-state. I cannot get it work either. In your video you have main-section ch2 fader up in time 0:45. Then you are routing the fx to mon and everything seems to work fine, but if you are bringing down the fader of ch2 in MAIN-section, you don't have fx anymore in mon. And if bringing down the mon fader, the fx stays. This is acting like POST-state (depends of main), not PRE-state (independent).
The eFx sends are only post fade, so yes of course it would go away if you turn down ch-2 on the main page. There’s no way to cheat that here.
inputs 3 and 4 are infuriating. There is a -20db pad on the jack input on the combi jack and the xlr input distorts and clips so easily. With a line level signal coming into the jack in the combi input, you have to boost it by 20db, and then it's very noisy . useless.
Android phone use bro
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