How Do I Carry While Riding A Motorcycle?
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- I have gotten several inquiries about concealed carry and riding a motorcycle. You don't take time off from your Active Self Protection because you're on a bike! Do you do anything different as far as CCW when you hit the open road?
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Oh crap there is a guy on a motorcycle! We better be ready to cover our ASP. Oh wait that's just John. Whew!
Lol
The NRA emblem on the back of your helmet gives a hint to an undesirable that you may be armed. I'm a Benefactor NRA member but have removed all gun related identification from my car to reduce the risk of a break-in.
Awesome video. As a rider, I can appreciate a guy with firsthand knowledge educating others on how to do this properly. Thanks for the tips!
Russian guns often have a huge trigger guard specially for gloved use.
Interesting. Never thought about that, but it totally makes sense.
There’s a lot of options here in the us that have oversized trigger guards. It’s pretty common in general I think. My AR .22 and 9mm handgun have it haha
is that why my p07 has a huge trigger guard
Good call on training with the helmet on. I know what I'm bringing to the range next time.
I would suggest trying it with full gear/protection on...
The movements of every part of your body is different with different jackets/outfits..
I live in Texas, i normally dont open carry but when I'm on my bike i found that not only is it faster to draw but i can do so while still moving (one handed) also i have noticed that i have no road ragers messing with me
Have you ever gone down on a motorcycle? From sad experience, I can assure you that even something as small as a key ring will do massive damage (internal bleeding, thigh black hip to knee). So, now I never put hard things on my body when riding. From my experience, TDub is right, a gun on the waist could easily break your pelvis in a crash. As you said, you don't need to draw while riding. Put it in a tank bag. One you can pull off easily and carry. Love your channel BTW.
I've gone down on dirt and on gravel. Never on the street, thankfully!
I work in law enforcement I carry on my appendix and ankle. Ankle depends on what riding boots or shoes I’m wearing. This video is very informative and I think the hardest thing is finding gloves so u can operate your firearm if you have to and grip it well. Great video keep up the good work.
This is an old video that I’d love to see you not only update, but bring in other riders on how they carry while riding with different gear.
Great video, glad you ride and showed your techniques for it, very helpful. Nice VFR also. :D
Always bothered me seeing guys point their own pistol at their groin 10 hrs per day.
Sure looks like it's pointed at his vitals to me... Twice last year someone accidentally shot themselves pulling their weapon from their holster. A few months ago a patrol officer here in our city did it while on the range and died from his injury.
Admiral Horatio Nelson was shooting with bigger guns, unfortunately a french sharpshooter got him.
I've been watching all your videos and had no idea you had a Vfr, I have a 08 vfr and I love it. Makes this a lot more relatable.
I have been sub'd for several months now and I am loving these older video! Keep up the great work, John. I would love to see some more videos like these intermixed with the newer, video surveillance type of scenarios that you are showing now.
John, you're awesome!! I love this site and watch vids daily. I've got a terrible habit of not hitting that like button (on every video on TH-cam, not just yours) but I'm going to make it my mission from here on out to definitely give you those likes!! Keep em coming man!! Very helpful. Knowledge is power. Thanks!!
When you rode up I thought you were Lemmy and got really excited.
That would be a great cross over video!
Damn john, your bike sounds sweet. Maybe you should do an exhaust note video just as a treat for your viewers. You'll like it too
Sweet VFR. Didn’t know you were a motorcycle guy! Excellent presentation as usual! Thanks! 🇺🇸
i carry with an inside waist band holster, at around 4 oclock and im afraid it could break my hip or something if i ever lay my bike down
TDubsKid same here. Pros and cons, right?
TDubsKid somewhat related. many years ago I had my old Nextel on my hip and rolled the car. the side to side violent slamming bruised me from my arm pit to my thigh. I was basically immobile for 3 weeks just because so much bruising happened. worth considering. I pocket carry now right at cargo short height. if I ever fell or crashed or whatever it's on the side of my leg in a place where it will likely hurt me very very little. it's also super concealed.
I know every situation is different, but a few years ago my uncle had an unexpected dismount when a car hit him. He was carrying his gun on his back or kidney(not fully sure but thats where he normally carries) to my knowledge he didnt have any significant injuries due to the gun being there. His Dr said that if he'd been ankle carrying as he often does, it would have shattered his ankle.
I might just keep mine in the tank bag, while on the bike.
Great video & great tips !
Really good video. I never thought of taking safety gear to the range, I'll have to try it. One small thing: I love appendix/IWB for every day, but the safest holster on a motorcycle is a shoulder holster. Ordinarily, I don't like them, but if you're wearing a jacket anyways, they are really quite doable. The issue really comes up in anticipating crashes: with appendix/IWB, you're going to potentially break your hip/back if you land on it in a crash. With shoulder holsters, you are much less likely to break something.
TL;DR - IWB/Appendix is great for driving/everyday carry, but shoulder holsters are the safest for motorcycle riding in crashes.
Great video I always wondered about the best way to carry while riding and being effective..
Nice VFR! I love my 98, it came with givi cases, a corbin seat, raised handle bars, lowered foot pegs and a longer windshield. I did 700 miles on it and was still toast though. And then 400 the next day. And then rode "the tail of the dragon", what a great vacation! Anyway love yours, and reallly really love the older red white and blue ones.. Hope this riding season is treating you good. P.S. I got a givi tanklock tankbag for it and its been great. doesnt scuff the tank and can hold more than I thought!
Unfortunately, I let a friend buy her from me. :'(
Active Self Protection aw sorry, hope you get to hear the beautiful sexy whine of timing gears under you soon. A little provocative for a pastor.. but motorcycles are provocative.
Thank goodness for this video. I've been scouring the web for good info on this.
Nice VFR! I have a 94 VFR750 and love it. I'm in Mesa, AZ so really close by.
mate, i cant believe i missed this video til now! i bought a beginner motorcycle [125cc honda grom] last year and learned alot myself about how to conduct on a bike. i carry cross-draw, front left. appendix is not comfortable at all. also gloves; you have GOT to decide on the right hand gear. its all about consistency.
i extend you a belated thank you so much for this video!
John I had no idea you ride motorcycle. i look forward to your videos daily
I can't seem to find pants for riding that: 1. Have useable pockets for stuff, 2. Have adequate protection, AND 3. Allow me to carry either IWB or OWB concealed, where I can actually access them. Dedicated riding pants protect well, but have no pockets or super shallow ones and no belt loops; chaps/overpants usually don't have any padding, only slide protection; jeans make carrying easy but shred INSTANTLY in a slide, and even Kevlar-lined jeans don't often hold up well, plus they have little to no padding. Any suggestions? Choose between riding protection or bad guy protection?
I never thought of that , great point
I have that same jacket. Haven't had a bike in years though, looking to acquire one soon.
Thanks for this!
I love that bike. I had a 97. My first bike. Love at first ride.
good to know you still think about safety on a motorcycle , congruent with the rest of your personality, respectable
Nice!! Two Brothers pipes.
Also, another good tip video for riders.
On point, totally loved your video and I think Im going to have to try going to the range with a helmet on. But some of us ride with full 1 pieace leathers. Do you have some recommendations?
Hey John, I was concerned about appendix carrying my Glock 26 on my sportbike. If not appendix what other position would you recommend? I don’t see the appendix carry working so well in the tucked position lol
I am jealous of that wide residential street.
Hey brother! I would certainly appreciate if you could make more videos related to motorcycle situations since I ride myself on one. Maybe, videos of bikes being robbed. Thanks. I like your channel very much, and I think I've learned good stuff.
Well, alas, I sold my bike so I am not sure when I will make any more motorcycle videos. :(
The gear I wear makes it pretty tough to get a gun into the fight. My jacket is completely secured with fasteners to my over pants so it doesn't ride up while sliding down the road if I fall. I'll have to figure something out, I do have zippered roomy pockets in my jacket...
Just make sure to use a trigger guard pinned to the jacket so you don't have a negligent discharge.
Hi, John! Could you please revisit this topic and inform if if there's more glove or jacket models that would be suitable to carry a gun wearing them while they provide protection against crashes? Like a reasonably "armored" glove that would still be slim enough to fit in the trigger guard of a handgun. Thanks!
I recognize the logo of our trains in the picture in the background so it must have been taken in Belgium.
I've been looking for a way to carry on some sort of chest rig.
I carry a pocket gun and another gun in my givi tank lock tank bag. I can't get to either super quickly, but, if I had to surrender my motorcycle in order to buy some time, I at least have backup.
Nice bike john
Thanks!
Great channel by the way ...
great video's ,my new favorite TH-cam channel
Nice VFR :-) . One of the best bikes Honda ever build.
Hey John, love the videos! What holster do you use? I'm looking for an good IWB for my G19.
PS. The above links gave an error message.
I get all my holsters from Gabe at get-asp.com/KSGArmory and if you use coupon code ASP2016 he ships for free. I make nothing from the recommendation, but he makes awesome stuff. :)
Cool, thanks for the reply and link brother!
really smart protect our asp from the stupid and danger of out world nice job John you are the man.
Ended up with an st1100 since no VFR options around. Kinda wish I waited but with the hard bags plan on a few distance trips this summer since I have it. I wear ear plugs all the time I ride for wind noise : ) that and I can keep mags and fak on the bike at all times
Enjoy! Keep it shiny side up.
How do you suggested to carry an Ak pistol when riding?
I've been watching your videos for a while now and I had no idea you're in Arizona too! Greetings from flagstaff haha
+Jordan Moore Yep, I am in Phoenix.
Did the range video ever get made? I can’t find it
COOL A.S.P VFR JOHN. im wresteling with this now as i open carry til my ccwp comes. i like mine on my hip as i dont like to squish my gun between me and the tank on my CBR. it would be much easier on a cruiser but i like the sportbikes myself.
Hip carry is definitely easier. I sold this bike in the fall, and I miss it! :)
what holster do you use? I'm looking for an appendix holster that keeps the weapon from being too deep into the waistband.
check out trex arms. My friend has one, he loves it, and it holds his pretty high.
I ride a bike as well and I never even thought about it
Before you even stated anything about the state. saw the sky and the houses and I said it looks like Arizona. and I was right, I think I know where that neighborhood is.
The guys in Brazil 🇧🇷 are the experts at this
Would like to see a similar video, but with actual protective and armored riding gloves.
Excellent video though!
Can you make a Review of your every Day carry bag?
is that you in the background pictures
Yes, that's my wife and I in Brussels on vacation. :)
Dang desert wind! Good advice still.
What about for those of us that ride with real protective gear, like 1-piece track suits? There is no good place to carry when wearing an actual riding suit, unless I wear a backpack or other bag that I can secure to my person. But then, attaching something like that to your body will greatly reduce the safety of the suit by inducing tumbling instead of sliding over the pavement. What do you think?
Well first, the "real protective gear" comment was pretty condescending. A full riding jacket is a lot of gear. If you choose to wear a full leather suit to ride, then open carry.
It's not really condescending. Have you ever crashed while wearing just a helmet, jacket, gloves, and boots? I have, and the pants were insta-shredded along with a lot of my leg- it was only like 35 mph. I also took a very nasty high side and a fast low side each with a real suit on, and not a scratch on my body- picked the pieces out of the road and rode home after each of them. Riding without full gear is pretty irresponsible- please don't wait and learn the hard way, like I did. Permanent nerve damage is a bitch.
I've seen some pretty good holsters tucked inside saddlebags that are perfect for reach and quick release don't know how good the reach and release would be on a sports bike....maybe a pillion seat bag with some sought of holster mechanism
I don't recommend off-body carry.
+Active Self Protection ahh true, why's that? if it's not on persons it's not secure type thing?
Yeah, not secure, and not accessible if needed.
Nice bike. Holy cow. I didn't have you pegged for a sport bike rider. That's baller status if u ask me. My girlfriend and I want to get our endorsements this summer at some point. Up here in the PNW riding days are limited. I stick to my downhill mountain biking. Haha
I sold this bike not long ago and miss it. :)
I just found this video. Just turned 18 and bought a gun wondering about riding. Happen to ride a 97 vfr750 too haha
john ur just too dayum kool.
I carry on my 4:30 position with Alien Gear (on a Kawasaki Nomad).
Could Open carry on strong side leg.
I know a motorvlogger thats also an LAPD officer (was on the motorcycle side now on the aviation side) and they wear gardening gloves so they can get them off in a hurry.
nice bike John. Those 700s are the coolest bikes ever
I sold it to a friend about a year ago and miss it so!!!
Nice VFR sir !
I always get worried that my pistol will accidentally go off in it's holster for some reason... although it's not a rational fear :) Is there any tips to make sure that never happens? Keep it in a firm holster, unchambered etc I know but is that something that can happen or are you pretty much good? I usually carry in my bag instead of on my body.
I don't carry an unchambered firearm. It's not useful without a round in the chamber. Carry it in a quality kydex or leather holster that completely covers the trigger guard.
Yeah I've gotten more comfortable with it since the trigger is heavy and the holster is rigid. The only thing that bothers me is I remember some NFL player was at a bar and shot himself in the leg and I kept thinking... how could that have happened? Must've not been in holster or maybe they hired some chick to pull the trigger.
Carmelo Santini
I carry a Springfield XD .40 and it requires your palm to be holding the gun for it to activate the second safety which is a nice comfort for me. I know some people who practice speed drills and have had their shirt get pulled into the holster with the gun and squeeze the trigger... luckily a round was not in the chamber. Just practice re-holstering and clearing obstructions and you should be good.
Carmelo Santini
Don't chamber the weapon.?
joe gonzalez
that is a pretty terrible idea if you need your weapon quickly. Videos all over of people not having theirs ready and paying the price for it.
thank you bro thank
I love the motorcycle 😍
Old video but do you still ride?
What year is your VFR? Mine is a 1996, what a sweet series of bikes! They sound great, they look great, and its the perfect mix of sport and touring... awesome!
95. Fantastic bike.
It sure is, and it looks like the values are starting to up on them finally too. Hang onto it!
Actually, I sold it to a friend from church a few months ago because it deserves to be ridden regularly.
respect for riding the interceptor
1) Thanks for another great video.
2) Didn't know you were a Southpaw.
3) What pistol were you carrying in this video?
HK VP9.
The sound is horrible I'd love to hear sounds like great info
Couple things - I do carry when I ride and actually use my 5.11 shooting gloves. They have padding on the palms and although I don't know for sure how they would hold up in an accident, I feel they are better than nothing. Second - do you think it's wise to have an NRA sticker on your helmet? Some unsavories may see that as an advertisement that you have a gun and try to eliminate any threat before you can react. Food for thought.
Interesting take on self defense when riding.
is it legal in Kentucky to transport a loaded gun in a 400cc scooter seat compartment
does the castle doctrine law apply??
need an outdoor mic cover!
finally seen the face of comentating...lol good videos and advice..keep up good work
nice bike
Love that twin two brothers. Rare pipe!
Yeah it's a delicious sound coming out of it, let me tell you. That bike sings. :)
+Active Self Protection I have a '97 and I had a '94 with a single two brothers. Great bikes, last forever and the sound.... Nothing like it. What's your mileage?
4 into 2 mod? Nice. I had a '94.
Yeah, it's a nice bike. :)
I always carry the same position as I normally would so you dont have to think any different. If im riding im not gonna drink, and I wouldnt drink with a gun on me either : ) I like a velcro strap (Im cheap bit they work) to keep my firearm secure because my fear of having my firaeam fall out of holster in a motor accident is greater than my fear of drawing quickly.
You dont get any looks for the NRA sticker on he helm either?
I never thought about trying shooting with my helmet on
Make sure to wear eye and ear pro.
Just saw this, Very Very Good, MORE Like This. 4-30-019, 10:31 am
Number one reason I dont appendix carry. My bike is my daily driver, and I dont want to have to stop completely, turn the bike off or get the bike in neutral, and then try to get to my firearm if I ever have to draw. Would rather just either draw while moving, or even while coming to a stop have the option to draw.
all that is possible with appendix carry..
Not if you're right handed. Ever try hitting the brakes while reaching over to your gun? And before you say just use the back brake, ever try to come to a fast stop with just the back brake on a bike? Its fun when the rear tire comes loose :) The front brakes are used for stopping, not the rear ones, and the front brake handle is on the right grip.
AnAZPatriot that is a good point.. I'd argue both brakes are used for stopping though. have you seen the video of the south African motorcycle cop chasing and shooting at criminals in a car?
anyway, appendix carry is not going to interfere any more or less than strong side carry, with the bikes controls. You'd have the same problems. Appendix will be easier for some people to draw.
Meh...some shoes dont fit everyone. Whatever is comfortable and works for a person is what works best I suppose.
nice patch and sticker. im gonna put some pro gun patches on my tail bag. Its a great way to support our rights. Great video brother,
May we all keep our barrels smoking and carry in peace!!
Don’t dare call his carry bag a murse....he’ll pop a cap in your asp. 😏
bro i need tips for carrying for jogging and running? ??
Smaller gun. Good belly band.
Active Self Protection im carrying my russian Makarov in 9x18 ? belly band was my first thought just wish they some with a leather or kydex front face like a typical holster for a trigger guard
Active Self Protection im carrying my russian Makarov in 9x18 ? belly band was my first thought just wish they made some with a leather or kydex front face like a typical holster for a trigger guard
What a sweet vfr! 97?
2:36 John looks like profoundly intimidating for some reason
What holster are you using?
check out Crossbreed holster's "freedom carry, Trex arms kydex... there are so many good ones, and everyone is different.
Hey John, what gun are you using in this video?
+Donald Moses HK VP9
+Active Self Protection thanks, I thought it might have been but the video was little dark for me to tell. I enjoy your videos.
is it legal to keep a gun under the seat?
GLOCK ThirtyFive depends on the state
Nice taste in Bikes!