Can the BEST DRIVERS of the past 5 YEARS outperform NEW CLUBS?!
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Changed the title to “Best drivers of the past 5 years” Rather than best of 10, only a small thing and these are still my faves from the past decade, but fits a little better 👍
Can you do an off-centre test please. See how much improvement exists in the less than perfect strike test. Cheers
@@emerysnap I think that would be a good test
Pete, it would be awesome to see this test with the ping g400 lst vs the g425 lst. I know the adapters are different, but it would be great to see a good comp
when people make these kind of videos they've run out of ideas. It's clickbait and I know drivervideos score well with people. I enjoyed your channel these past few years, so thanks for having been entertaining. I'll unsub for now and perhaps I'll be back in a few years to see if you've improved beyond this kind of stuff. Thanks.
FYI that is 2017 M1 and not the 2015 version
*A NOTE ON THE TESTING* I might try and include an explanation in future videos but when testing drivers and comparing the averages I take out the longest drive and the shortest and any really poor shots caused by my terrible swing. In this test I also took out any really fast or slow swing speeds to make it fair, I hit 10/15 shots with each driver..I was shattered 😂
Pretty sure the TSi2 and 3 came out this year Pete btw not 2019! Great video though 👍
I use the m1 first good driver I actually have had i used to use the cheap top flight I spent 40 bucks on brand new it was junk felt like hitting it with a pop can
It might be interesting to show dispersion. If the new clubs aren't longer, are they straighter? That would be a reason to upgrade.
I bought a used TM M1 (1st gen) early last year and absolutely love it! Sound, feel, distance everything about the driver is amazing. Why spend $530 on a new driver when my $140 used M1 can do the same thing! Don't waste your money on new clubs. Buy used and save some money for green fees!!
SSHHHH!!!! You're running up the used club prices!! LOL
M1 price has just jumped on eBay 😂😂😂😂😂
The lesson here... Your old driver is probably good enough. Finally a video that makes me NOT want to upgrade :)
These videos are great and goes to show that you really dont need to spend silly money on newer drivers.
Love your driver swing - been practicing at home to swing like you do!!
This is one of those videos that I start watching and realize that I've seen it before and then watch it to the end regardless. Love the old vs new stuff -- great video!
Super lucky to get to try the best of the best equipment. Glad there’s guys like u that help us with thoughts and honest thoughts. My m2 is my go to,straighten out my slice and keeping up with my buds clubs.
Playing the TS3 based on your review years ago and I can imagine playing anything else. Avg 300+ for me and the look and sound are unlike anything else. I'll upgrade in a couple years when a driver is worthy of it
On behalf of the TH-cam viewer community. We’d like to formally complain the original 2016 M2 wasn’t used 💔
Well I got 4 seconds in before seeing this comment and already know I’ve wasted my time
Still have this in the bag 🔥
Still playing the 2016 M2. I don’t see anything knocking it out of the bag anytime soon.
I will take the complaint and circulate it through management
Just bought one in mint condition, can’t wait to use it!
This just what we need Pete, direct comparison to give us a reason to shell a boat load of dosh on new or save a bit on slightly older equipment. Nice one mate😍😍👏👏
Love how smooth and controlled your swing looks, it’s such a big goal of mine to get that type of control to my swing
These are the reviews we need to see
I’m guessing a yard a year. But definitely more forgiveness in the modern clubs
Thank you for the Saturday morning (in Canada) video Peter! Appreciate all your hard work to bring the content!
Best video this year, more of this sort of thing please. Keep up the great work
Things confirms what SASgolf says about drivers.
What do they say ?
@@Thibow46 that you should save your money and there isn't a great deal of difference between drivers in the last 5 years and not massively different for last 10 years. Rick did a similar video and had same outcome
This is why I listened to him and got a second hander
Mate was about to say the exact same
@@nmhiggins2 exactly. Every club in my bag is 2-4 years old at 1/4 of the price except my putter and wedges... picked up my rogue for 100 bucks and i outdrive most the guys I play wirh
I still rock my 2006 Titleist 905R, it's long, accurate and dialed in for me. I've tried every reason to change, tested out drivers for years and can't justify spending $400 on replacing what is my favorite club in my bag along with my 2004 Scotty Cameron. I even have a backup 905R just in case something happens to my 1st one lol. In reality wedges have been the only clubs in my bag that I've felt the need to replace since 2009.
Great video as per Pete 👏🏼 Can't wait to get back playing
Brilliant video of testing legacy drivers. Thanks Pete. Alan from somewhere in Asia
Given that drivers over the past 5yrs have pretty much maxed out on distance, it would be good if you could redo the test, but measure dispersion instead....has forgiveness improved over this period?
Sounds a better idea?
I was thinking the same thing. With limitations on driver faces, etc. likely limiting distance perhaps the improvement in the new clubs is forgiveness and this might not show up as clearly with a pro doing the hitting. Given that the center of my driver's face is virtually unmarked, I'll volunteer to do the testing for forgiveness.
that was my takeaway on the SIM2/M1 matchup - hitting toe shots, not losing distance, and it seemed like based on the shot track they stayed on the fairway with the M1
More like 15 years.
I have a 2012 Nike Vrs forged driver that is still longer than any driver I have hit. From Callaway Epic Flash to Taylormade Stealth. It looks, feels, and sounds better too. I never saw anyone be me playing one.
2017 Taylormade M2. Still love the distance
Awesome video! Yes!! I'll keep my M1, i love it & the loud sound is just so satisfying.
Great video! I was thinking about replacing my m1 driver thanks for saving me some money! I wish I could hit it 329 though. Would love to see you and Rick play some golf again.
Currently using the Epic Flash. Best driver I've ever used.
So it just goes to prove that if you have a decent driver from the last 7 years or so there is no point upgrading because there is no upgrade just hype and marketing, I was thinking of getting a new driver this year, don't think I will bother now!
Yep, still gaming a Callaway XR16. It never lets me down.
@@brianwaldo2642 loved my xr16. Only reason i got rid of it was a buddy bought t off me for more than i paid and in turn i bought a gbb epic with that money. I preferred my xr16 over the epic though honestly. Still swinging the xr16 5w though.
@@lkeith88 Still use my XR16 too but scheduled a fitting to see how a new Mizuno would work for me.
It really is nothin but hype and marketing and for some reason it seems like only taylormade grabs everybody.
Peter, just had to drop you a line and thank you MUCH for comparing old-school drivers with new drivers; in particular, The Sim 2 vs. The M1. After watching your vid, I found one in a pawn shop that sold for $100 (USD) which is an amazing price considering you can't touch one for under $200 on eBay. I took that driver to my round today & did REALLY well with it. I quickly realized that this is the type of driver that NEVER gets old. So again...THANK YOU for taking the time to put these sticks to the test. I watch you & Rick frequently, even the older vids. Keep 'em comin.'
Great vid Pete! Would love to see you so some 10 year differences. Like Ping G10 vs. G410. Maybe with Cobra, Callaway, and TM too? Thanks!!
I game an M1. I still haven't found anything as consistently straight and long as the M1 in 3 years of testing.
"game" hahahaha WTF
I have an M1 3 wood...its staying in the bag for life as far as Im concerned
m1 original or 2017
@@andrewhazel5726 That's what boomers and some genx say. They "game" a club. 🤣 Just saying I have a Sim driver is not cool enough. 😂
@@lachlane3971 M1...
Great video Pete, such a good comparison between them all. I've got a bit of a soft spot for the M1 but no real reason why as never had one 😂
Do you ever compare 3 Woods or is it not something you really use or concentrate on?
Astounding how similar the results are, great insight Pete. I’m currently biffing a Nike Vapor Fly, was just getting it in the sweet spot when lockdown hit! Can’t wait to get back out there. Hope to see a Pete vs Rick match ASAP! 😀
Awesome video! Just upgraded from the M1 2017 to the TSi4. Low spin BEASTS!
As Rick Shield demonstrated, for Taylormade, the SLDR was longer and lower spinning than the M1 etc., so nothing that came after was ever longer. Any improvement cost in distance but improved forgiveness. Curious to see what you find vs Callaway.
Data = Performance, end of discussion.
Looks, sound, feel..... shiny things don't send the ball down the fairway!
Performance is always king.
So you're basically sayin who gives a shit about looks, sound, and feel because that doesn't hit the ball. That is the dumbest golf thing I've ever heard. Also, they all have the same fuckin performance, so guess what? it goes right back to looks, sound, and feel!!
Thanks Peter.
I'm in the process of upgrading from an R5xl to and M6. I'm really looking forward to seeing the gains.
Great video Pete. I really enjoyed this comparison. Just replaced my TS3 with the TSi3. I think I made the right choice. The sound and feel are better, and the TSi3 is more adjustable.
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@@cstridbeck did you have to pay customs fees to Sweden after January? I’m looking and live in Uppsala.
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Hi Peter,
Looks like we only need to upgrade our shaft every time,
... Agreed; isn't the main reason to change the shaft rather than the head?
Be more relevant to use original heads and shafts - that is like for like for what is in our bags vs new clubs.
Pete! Great video really liked the off the path comparison. Also keep us grounded with marketing hype etc👊🏾
Still hitting a G2! Just love the feel and sound of it. Compared to my friends who all have up to date models, it still hits further ! Will probably use it until it breaks!
2017 M1 Taylormade is Still a Beast.
Still awesome
Got my M1 on ebay 6 mos ago for ~$100US
Same. Used to change driver every 1~2 years until I got M1. Still a beast. I demo new drivers every year but still happy with M1.
I am hoping , just purchased the 2017 M1 going to go head to head with a Rogue and F8+ see what stays in the bag ?
Got one in my bag still. Even after 4 years, it treats me well.
I still have the original M2 in my bag. I have tested some of the newer drivers. Picked up 3-8 yards depending on the newer driver. That just does not equate to $500.00 to me.
Awesome stuff you are putting out👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 love your channel Peter, keep up the great work, and hello from 🇺🇸
Awesome video! Loving the new studio by the way
I would've loved to have seen PING thrown in the mix! maybe another video?
Totally agree
Taylormades are long, but I just can't get them as consistent as my Ts4. But that M1 is a so much better than the first red bottomed M1. Probably best value out right now! Still dig the TSI tho....
I am currently using the TS3 and its the best driver i've ever had, I agree with you on the looks in comparison to the TSi3 , but only for the bottom part , I much more prefer the little arrow alignment on the crown vs the lettered alignment on the TSi3 .. Will be keeping in the bag for a long time for sure
I’m still rocking the callaway x2hot from 2013. I have a different shaft in it but still the same head and I hit that driver 270-300 consistently. Now, my brother got the sim as an upgrade from the xr and that was a difference maker for him.
I currently use the M1 Original, and that driver changed my game
Sadly, that one hurt my game!
Great video and really interesting! Have you thought about doing a video to demonstrate the impact of the shafts themselves? Be interesting to see the impact multiple shafts have on the same driver head. Some of the recent reviews are almost suggesting the technology here has moved on more than in the driver heads themselves.
Amazing. Its my 40th. And need new driver and woods. Was gonna look on golf bidder for older ones. Now i know . Amazing timing thx
Great Video , outstanding production !!
Have a speedzone in my bag, it's awesome 💪 edit: the lesson I got from this is stop wasting money on new drivers unless you want something new and shiny
I'm gaming F9 atm, 59 yrs old and still getting 240-250 yds of the tee. It's a shame he didnt do any Cobra drivers, $100 USD cheaper and the same distance and accuracy as those expensive ones.
@@TMar1961 i bought an F9 in perfect condition a year ago at play it again sports for $190 it was my first “new” driver and it has been amazing! I did my research and bought into the hype behind it. Definitely don’t plan on upgrading for a long time because i love the feel and distance
Riveted all the while watching this as I am looking for my first decent driver. Why not go for the best from a few years ago? Great job Peter! Exactly what I was looking for even though I didn't realize it.
I just realised I turned notifications on for you channel.
Worth it!
Cheers
My guy! Thank you
I had the 2016 M1 as my first driver that I bought second-hand in 2018, loved it, only changed to the M6 in 2020 as the M1 was scratched and dented otherwise would have never changed it, the M6 will be in the bag for the foreseeable future.
Cobra rad speed now
Is there going to be a review of the new Mizuno STz and STx coming up, Pete?
Yep got one through, just need to test it out
Gaming Cobra F9 with a Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue, regular flex. Bought it “old “ last year, saved $100 US and reshafted it. Lot of ball marks on the center of the club face
I bought a 2017 M1 second hand and I love it, even when it’s not hit great ( I’m a high handicap) it still goes far. Ended up getting the 3 wood as well
"best drivers of the past 10 years", oldest driver... 5 years
The title is clickbait but the content is essentially the beginning of the New tech in drivers to the latest new tech to see how far its come
Exactly I was hoping to see titleist 910, tm rbz and cally xhot. Give us what we really want to see Finch!
I would really have wanted to know how a 2010 driver had stacked up, as that's the price bracket I shop in.
I have a titleist 905R. I was hoping to see if it was worthwhile upgrading... to the 909 or 910👍🏻
Exactly, I think these are the best drivers of the past ten years
Whoa he said, “aluminum!” In two different accents!
I pronounce it Aluminium, coz there's an i next to the u and m.
Kris Benson it's 'aluminium' because its the English language and my English auto correct makes it into Aluminium, just like it's not color its colour and it's not mom its mum.
Great video. Need more of these. Cobra, mizuno, ping, pxg.
Brilliant video. Great work Peter!
Peter, my guess: M1 longer than Sim2, GBB Epic Speed longer than Epic, TS3 and TSI3 equally long
Please have a look at next weeks lottery numbers for me 😍
Skip to 8:15 if you want to see the start of the hitting and comparison.
Thanks, there was a lot of drivel that first minute or two!
Great video Pete. Did not expect that winner!
YES to these kind of videos!!!
Forgiveness might show bigger differences. Would have to do the test with someone who doesn’t bomb every shot like Pete does.
To be fair I don't think any type of club can offer the forgiveness needed from poorly struck shots hit by many amateurs. You see it on the golf course week in week out. Guys with the latest and greatest equipment unable to hit fairways consistently due to poor swing technique. In my view, amateurs will benefit most from managing expectations on the course and hitting shots accordingly. Most time this would mean hitting fewer drivers off the tee. Improving their skill level through practice would greatly benefit them and would certainly be a better investment for their money much more than the latest equipment could ever provide. Taking this to the extreme, check out Rick Shiels' video where a PRO golfer uses a 70pound package set and still scores under par. We cannot buy a golf game! Practice, hard work, discipline, dedication and course management will lower our scores, not the bullshit marketing thrown at us from these major brands every year. The idea of forgiveness is really a major marketing ploy used to benefit the pockets of these major brands. They are only incremental changes with unjustifiable price increases year on year. If you can swing a club well you will likely play good golf with even low forgiveness clubs. Distance is not everything, especially if one doesn't have the wedge game to match it!
@@azharcassim2795 Few years back i played with a guy who had clubs from the '80s. Titleist PT driver with steel shaft, Ping Blonde 5 wood which was literally wood, and irons that looked like it had a sweet spot the size of gnat's ass. He smoked rest of the group, easily scoring in the 70s. He let me try his 5 wood (beautiful club made with maple) and it felt so good. Obviously this guy was a really good golfer, but it had nothing to do with distance. I out drove him on most holes, but his wedges and putting put us to shame.
Just got a Cobra speedzone haven't had it out in the course yet
Got a Rogue subzero in the bag, love it! Just feels mint!
Class video again Pete, when you have shouting at pigeons and smashing drivers you can’t go wrong
I have both Rogue SZ and 2017 M1. Agree that the rogue feels much better but I hook the crap out of it, this is where the adjustable sleeve of M1 comes in and helps me calm things down. At the end of last yr the M1 stayed in the bag while the Rogue collected dust cause Performance > feel/ looks
Very good reviews, I currently still bag my M1 but had a fitting on TSI3 and found my dispersion was much tighter. I'd love to see a review on the Sub 70 driver. Nice work, thanks for the info.
When Pete says that the driver that I just bought and thought I was the coolest person ever. When he calls it dated 😔😔🥺🥺
Just purchased a used 2017 taylormade M2 with a hzdus project X black shaft. So stoked! I looked forever for this combination. I found it in Vegas and drove from LA to get it. Couldn’t be happier so far
Great honest review. I’ve got the original sim sits really nice at address and it’s easy to hit right which is a huge bonus when you have a hook like me. But Would love to give that epic big Bertha a hit looks awesome
Fantaaastic video mate. Can you do 3 woods from the same year next? Would love to see the difference!
Had my MD Superstrong driver around 5 or 6 years now and even though I look at newer clubs, I love the feel of the thing too much to change it!
Thanks for this video peter. Great test and really enjoyed watching. Just subscribed. Stay safe everyone 😁👍
Titleist 905R. Tried the TSi3 when I could and was expecting more of a difference in performance. Still going to be upgrading though! 😂
Amazing Video. Great advice and luckily for me, I bought a TS3 recently. You need to have a driving comp with Matt from TXG. Beast mode.
Currently using Cleveland Launcher HB, it's the best fairway finder I've found.
Still playing a Ping G30 from '13 or '14. It's been a great driver for me, but it's time to upgrade. The G425 Max or SFT would look great in my bag. I'd make that my next purchase, but I need a new putter even more desperately! Keep up the great work, Pete. And despite what some have said, I love watching you shop online ;)
Just bought a used gbb and love the driver. An upgrade from my Adam’s insight driver that I started with.
Great video Mr Finch, I'm not surprised by the results and I wouldn't be surprised if you did this same test 3 years from now and the M1 came out on top again. it was the driver that made all the other manufacturers return to the drawing board. At the time it was released nothing on the market could compete.
Great video Peter. I have the Callaway Rogue, and based on this video, won't be planning a change anytime soon, at least if distance is what I'm concerned about.
I randomly replaced my R11 with a 2016 M1, because I'd heard so many great things about it. I hit the R11 so much better. The M1 has almost no spin and I can't do much with it.
Just got fitted against 5 new drivers, all different brands. All were 20 yards longer than the M1 with my slower swing speed. The Epic Speed was by far easiest to swing and control for me.
Try the sim 2 stiff shaft I've, had m3 ,m4 m6 sim leaves them all behind, came with reg shaft needs the stiff ,just flys
Great review! I still have my M1 and love it, looking forward to the next challenge!
TS wins for distance
But I was correct in picking my favourite/ top on accuracy, GBB EPIC, also happens to be my current gamer, very happy with it
Tbh really close between M1 and EPIC overall
TS just overdrawing for my eye
Love my Epic flash sub zero. Great video Pete!
Very informative video - THANKS!
How is your dad? Loved seeing him in the course vlogs! Lovely man!! Great test this. Seems like technology is very near the limit.
Currently hitting the Sim2 and it’s not only the most forgiving driver ive ever hit, but the longest. My ball speed is ~175-185 so I have always really struggled with spin, but the 8° on the Sim2 with an xstiff shaft has taken SO MUCH spin off. It carries a good 30 yards further consequently. Love it!
Higher than the tour average. Wow really
@@garyverth4887 yeah I get up to just under 200 sometimes but it helps a lot that I'm 6'7. I also have no idea where it's going most of the time so I really struggle on even moderately tight courses. If I ever want to be good I need to slow it down I think.
@Wowreally42 Nice I'd love to hit that speed who cares where it goes 😄
Borrowed a TS3 with stiff shaft last weekend as having issues with my standard driver. Wow what a difference. I came of the range with a big smile on my face.
Love the vid Pete. Came from the Instagram Live vid. Don't know the code word as it was about 1 minute behind on my end. But keep up the vids really liking them. I'm rocking the original SIM and it is great goes off like a rocket. Fancy doing any vids with juniors by the way?
Great review, Pete. I prefer the TM M2 but all these drivers performed well.
Love my 2017 m1 been in my bag for 2 years now, doubt I’ll ever replace it!
What a brilliant test of brand replacements well done Pete
I think that the technology has reached its peak when it come to drivers. All that is left is the design and looks. I base my driver on what appeals to my eye because they all perform about the same. Also price has alot to do with it. I think cobra has the best drivers at the moment even though you didn't have them on this review I feel they are the better pick when it come to price and performance. Thank you Peter for the great content. You are definitely one of my favorite to watch.
Great vid as always Pete. Always thought ping g400 max was a standout. But can't do them all. I'm thinking the older models are within a few yards of the newer ones.
Great video! I'm on a want! Want! Want! Trip at the moment for the SIM 2, but may have to fight the urge and stick with my fabulous M6.
This makes me feel good about my TS3 lol I have a hazardous smoke shaft in it & LOVE that driver. It will take a lot to replace it.