Can we all just agree on one basic approach to golf? I can’t seem to find any two TH-cam sites that agree on anything. Everyone has their own spin. No wonder our heads are like scrambled eggs!
A lot of it is same and not many new or silver bullets. Translation and communicating the nuances in different ways. It’s also important to remember that there are 3 key different swing types /planes and no matter what a golfer tries, their anatomy will always win.
It’s really all just different feels to the same real in the end. If you’re gonna get advice off you tube the best bet is to pick one channel and go with it.
100% concur with this video. I played my first round of golf in _ten_ years last week - with Titleist 681 irons no less - and after a truly horrific 40-ball practice session, I took to the front-nine of the course. My concentration and muscle-memory must have kicked-in because what was described in this video is exactly what happened when I flushed the ball on long approach shots - especially the 5-6-7 irons: very small divot, small grass/mud marks _exactly_ on the club-face sweetspot and fantástic ball flight. Instant subscriber! 👏🏼
I was a scooper and the main thing that helped me with compression/angle of attack was aiming almost at the top of the ball. Imagine holding the a ball in front of you and hitting it between 1 and 2 o'clock. My divots are light scuff marks. Most of my shots are that loud gunshot sound that echos through the woods, very satisfying.
One of your driver videos helped me enormously, so I watched this for my irons and off I went to the range. I find it very complicated and it raises more questions than it answers. I know I need to take it one step at a time, but how can I make any contact with the grass if my swing plane is delivering the leading edge parallel to, and at the height of, the ball's equator? How do I get my low spot in front of the ball? How should it feel? The technique give me three things to think about during the swing; target, equator and a spot in front of the ball. That just leads to mayhem for me! Where should my focus be? I'm happy to persevere but with so many questions I fear I'll just be practicing getting it wrong.
I'm wondering why no one has ever taken a high speed camera and filmed the exact ball strike contact in very slo-motion? I think this woukd be so helpful for visualization. 👍
Because everything they say in the vid would go to 💩. I have a feeling 90% of these yt golf instructors aren't even accomplishing the very thing they are "teaching you" themselves. Like when he said "I'm going to thin in and take a small divot........OK I didn't take a divot but my strike was better" 😅😂 I rolled on the floor.
I've learnt to play only for enjoyment as all my swing faults come back from time to time and it takes me a while to recognise what's gone wrong. I was taught to practice with a small piece of paper on the ground in front of the ball and sweep it away after striking the ball. That works when I remember not to scoop the shot. Enjoy your golf.
so I am just getting back into too golf, I like the no divot and am getting back to that type of a strike of the ball, I have found the firmer I strike the ball the harder I strike the ball, accelerating through the ball the higher the ball flies, and the better the compression feel the higher the ball flies with no loss in distance... I floated a 9 iron 155 yards and it came to earth coming straight down, is that what I am after or am I hitting the ball too high? I am 70 years old by the way.
Other than Pete Cowen Right Elbow. Scratch Golf Academy hit the club like a mallet on the ball, this is the greatest lesson that I have ever got!!! Absolute Game Changer!!!
There are literally videos of Tiger coming down steep and taking divots with fairway woods. It’s all dependent on the shot you are trying to play. And did this dude just say to try and add loft at impact?!
For many many golfers especially ones who don’t generate as much speed as they would like these days benefit greatly from this. Most who play golf are not Tiger or generate that speed. Big divots with slower speeds mean less distance. However there is a lot of proof that Tiger mostly took very very shallow if any divots when he struck the ball well.
@@TheArtofSimpleGolf Fair enough but if you’re after more dynamic loft wouldn’t it be easier to just start with more loft on the club rather than encouraging someone to try and present more loft at impact and bring in a host of habits that are going to potentially produce a weaker ball flight? Tiger is obviously at the extreme end of the spectrum but I think even he plays higher lofts because he presents less at impact with his irons.
Everyone uses the word “compression” but nobody explains what it is. You said to hit the ball “thin” with the leading edge of the club striking the equator of the ball. Do you remember balata golf balls? That technique would have ruined every ball after just one hit. Did the players in Nicklaus’ day not compress the ball? 18 majors and no compression?
Bla, bla, bla. Compressing an iron shot used to be almost a trick shot that the pros in the late 1970s used to get balata golf balls to back up on the greens. How it became the standard is not only a mystery but it is ridiculous. it is way too difficult to consistently aim this shot at the flag. Yes, it can be done but with huge amounts of practice and pre-golf round warm-up. With Irons, you keep the club face open on a straight path to the flag creating a vortex at the side of the ball as the club releases. Follow through with the classic reverse "C" finishing. Then your golf game becomes about balance, your grip, and going for the cup 165 yards out.
@@TheArtofSimpleGolf How much simpler can it be than to keep the club face open on a swing plain to the flag? My difficulty is getting the ball in the hole. Your difficulty is hitting the green.
Why do you guys make it so complicated? Be tension free with consistent light grip pressure & let the club swing on its own, assuming you have consistent posture & grip established. Grip pressure is rarely discussed on TH-cam but is possibly the most important factor to the quality of the swing. With too much pressure, you'll never swing properly or max out your distance.
The issue for most amateurs is trying to hit the ball rather than swing the club through it. Everyone has a great practice swing but put the ball there & everything changes & this includes myself. Some days I wish I could start fresh as a beginner & not have the faults I've ingrained over the years. I didn't start playing until my early 20s & what was being taught back then is almost nothing like what's taught today.
The Art of Complicated Golf
Can we all just agree on one basic approach to golf? I can’t seem to find any two TH-cam sites that agree on anything. Everyone has their own spin. No wonder our heads are like scrambled eggs!
A lot of it is same and not many new or silver bullets. Translation and communicating the nuances in different ways. It’s also important to remember that there are 3 key different swing types /planes and no matter what a golfer tries, their anatomy will always win.
This guy mentioned Tiger. What’s Tigers advice to amateurs? Stay off effn TH-cam
@@adamwright9381 yep, also says no divots, proceeds to show Tiger taking massive divots lol
@@adamwright9381 Yet here you are!
It’s really all just different feels to the same real in the end. If you’re gonna get advice off you tube the best bet is to pick one channel and go with it.
100% concur with this video.
I played my first round of golf in _ten_ years last week - with Titleist 681 irons no less - and after a truly horrific 40-ball practice session, I took to the front-nine of the course.
My concentration and muscle-memory must have kicked-in because what was described in this video is exactly what happened when I flushed the ball on long approach shots - especially the 5-6-7 irons: very small divot, small grass/mud marks _exactly_ on the club-face sweetspot and fantástic ball flight.
Instant subscriber! 👏🏼
Welcome back to this bonkers game and I’m delighted this resonated! 💪🏌🏽⛳️
This is the only channel I subscribe to for Golf tuition. All the others would’ve been four times as long for the same tip.
Much appreciated and Very glad you’re with us 🏌🏽👍⛳️
You saved me with this one.
Completely changed my game.
I was a scooper and the main thing that helped me with compression/angle of attack was aiming almost at the top of the ball. Imagine holding the a ball in front of you and hitting it between 1 and 2 o'clock. My divots are light scuff marks. Most of my shots are that loud gunshot sound that echos through the woods, very satisfying.
What do you mean by 1 and 2 o’clock what height on body knee ankle waist etc?
@@nicholasluer4858 ohh I get it!!!
One of your driver videos helped me enormously, so I watched this for my irons and off I went to the range. I find it very complicated and it raises more questions than it answers. I know I need to take it one step at a time, but how can I make any contact with the grass if my swing plane is delivering the leading edge parallel to, and at the height of, the ball's equator? How do I get my low spot in front of the ball? How should it feel? The technique give me three things to think about during the swing; target, equator and a spot in front of the ball. That just leads to mayhem for me! Where should my focus be? I'm happy to persevere but with so many questions I fear I'll just be practicing getting it wrong.
Very interesting approach. My miss is a thin. Now I have hope. Lol
Oh I love the sound of that. I'm a master at thinning shots. do they go anywhere? No, but they are nice and thin! Preach master!
Right on!
Best to think about bottom of your arc forward of the ball after impact first. Ali Taylor has great videos on this too.
We’ve done that years ago and a couple since
Thank you, this makes iron play much easier 🎉
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Yes...I like that hover at setup.
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Bro you nailed it!!!
I'm wondering why no one has ever taken a high speed camera and filmed the exact ball strike contact in very slo-motion? I think this woukd be so helpful for visualization. 👍
Because everything they say in the vid would go to 💩. I have a feeling 90% of these yt golf instructors aren't even accomplishing the very thing they are "teaching you" themselves. Like when he said "I'm going to thin in and take a small divot........OK I didn't take a divot but my strike was better" 😅😂 I rolled on the floor.
this makes a lot of sense - thank you
All examples of iron shots by Tiger at the beginning of the video show quite a divot it seems. Not huge chunks, but clearly visible divots.
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Yes it helped and now I am drawing a small divot or a scuff of the ground after hitting the ball
Well done and keep at it
@@TheArtofSimpleGolfwhat is the club make and grip you are using in the video ?
I've learnt to play only for enjoyment as all my swing faults come back from time to time and it takes me a while to recognise what's gone wrong. I was taught to practice with a small piece of paper on the ground in front of the ball and sweep it away after striking the ball. That works when I remember not to scoop the shot. Enjoy your golf.
Tiger is taking little divots? You made my day.....
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Woods said that when he's really striping it, whenever that isn't, he doesn't take a divot.
Where is the ball in your stance for the 7 iron and then the 4 iron?
So... I'm just trying to decent contact... if I ever try to get perfect contact... I'll give this a go.
Give it a try regardless!
Hi what is the club and the grip you are using in this video ?.
Would you be able to do a video for those who swing with a weaker / non dominant trail arm please? 🙏
Yes! This comes up a lot and I friend and fellow golfer has same challenge!
There’s a few keys but also depends if you are ambidextrous
think 4 things at the same time on your stance thats swing killer
Thanks Allex for this new idea. Sometimes I pull my hand towards left resulting in too much hook. How to avoid the pulling?
Release the clubhead instead of dragging the butt of handle
@@TheArtofSimpleGolf Thanks Allex. Do you have any video on that?
I spoke to zalatoris and he said Tiger was messing with Scottie about not taking divots on that commercial shoot😂
It’s not like he never took divots, some shots big ones… but the intention is what can help most
so I am just getting back into too golf, I like the no divot and am getting back to that type of a strike of the ball, I have found the firmer I strike the ball the harder I strike the ball, accelerating through the ball the higher the ball flies, and the better the compression feel the higher the ball flies with no loss in distance... I floated a 9 iron 155 yards and it came to earth coming straight down, is that what I am after or am I hitting the ball too high? I am 70 years old by the way.
That sounds great to me well done and keep at it sir 💪🏌🏽
C'est bien. Il sait le faire.
Merci Mon ami
Literally thought you were Officer Dangle bro.
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Slow the back swing and control the fore swing. Slower is better for new players
It's so weird, and simple. Thin to win.
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I've never been a divot player and hit them fine
Hi speed video shows the ball does not roll up the face of the iron. Haven't tried the drill but of "course" I will.
Other than Pete Cowen Right Elbow. Scratch Golf Academy hit the club like a mallet on the ball, this is the greatest lesson that I have ever got!!!
Absolute Game Changer!!!
I actually cut my iron a lil short to promote this
That’s an ok temp solution. But you will adapt eventually
I duff most of my shots trying to lift the ball.. now I'm going to hit the equator and see. .
Let us know how you get on.
Hit it thin, but try to take a divot. Oh, and try to add some loft while you are at it. Yep, that's the art of simple golf...
5:11 TW hits his iron and produces a huge divot…
For someone who flips his hands this may not be the best lesson for me?
You may be surprised
Tiger is making divots
That’s Tigers secret!
Did you just trick me into striking the ball the right way…😂
There are literally videos of Tiger coming down steep and taking divots with fairway woods. It’s all dependent on the shot you are trying to play. And did this dude just say to try and add loft at impact?!
For many many golfers especially ones who don’t generate as much speed as they would like these days benefit greatly from this.
Most who play golf are not Tiger or generate that speed. Big divots with slower speeds mean less distance.
However there is a lot of proof that Tiger mostly took very very shallow if any divots when he struck the ball well.
@@TheArtofSimpleGolf Fair enough but if you’re after more dynamic loft wouldn’t it be easier to just start with more loft on the club rather than encouraging someone to try and present more loft at impact and bring in a host of habits that are going to potentially produce a weaker ball flight? Tiger is obviously at the extreme end of the spectrum but I think even he plays higher lofts because he presents less at impact with his irons.
Sometimes your better off doing trial and error and figure out what works best for you
Sometimes indeed.
All these years I’ve been doing it right but worrying about little to no divots
Keep at it! 👍🏌🏽
I've been hitting like this for years...I aim for the top of the ball with my irons, not my woods or driver
Thanks for sharing! 🏌🏽👍
Tiger takes very little or no divots???? What was he doing for the first 5 shots of this video???
Woods said that when he's really striping it, he doesn't take a divot.
Everyone uses the word “compression” but nobody explains what it is. You said to hit the ball “thin” with the leading edge of the club striking the equator of the ball. Do you remember balata golf balls? That technique would have ruined every ball after just one hit. Did the players in Nicklaus’ day not compress the ball? 18 majors and no compression?
Intention is different to the end result. For most, hitting down is how they don’t compresses it’s not saying to actually thin the ball.
vertical then horizontal.
Pure strike at end….dude takes the biggest divot in 7 swings…
Intention is the point and the key 💪🏌🏽
Bla, bla, bla. Compressing an iron shot used to be almost a trick shot that the pros in the late 1970s used to get balata golf balls to back up on the greens. How it became the standard is not only a mystery but it is ridiculous. it is way too difficult to consistently aim this shot at the flag. Yes, it can be done but with huge amounts of practice and pre-golf round warm-up.
With Irons, you keep the club face open on a straight path to the flag creating a vortex at the side of the ball as the club releases. Follow through with the classic reverse "C" finishing.
Then your golf game becomes about balance, your grip, and going for the cup 165 yards out.
That is not making it simple to strike irons better which is the goal of this tiny tip
@@TheArtofSimpleGolf How much simpler can it be than to keep the club face open on a swing plain to the flag?
My difficulty is getting the ball in the hole. Your difficulty is hitting the green.
Why do you guys make it so complicated? Be tension free with consistent light grip pressure & let the club swing on its own, assuming you have consistent posture & grip established. Grip pressure is rarely discussed on TH-cam but is possibly the most important factor to the quality of the swing. With too much pressure, you'll never swing properly or max out your distance.
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Well, just do this and you'll ever hit a bad golf shot again.
If I think to thin it, i top it... hah
You are trying to lift it up I wager.
Well, I’ll add this to my 247 other pre-swing thoughts.
Haha, that’s a solid collection! Just don’t forget to swing and not overthink it!
Thivot.
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Why does it have to be so complicated? Just get it in the hole! LOL!
I have struggled all year with ball striking, compression. I can't hit any iron over 100 yards right now.
This might help. Not down but through
Try grip lightly
Watch your grip pressure & tension in your body, especially in the arms & wrists.
The issue for most amateurs is trying to hit the ball rather than swing the club through it. Everyone has a great practice swing but put the ball there & everything changes & this includes myself. Some days I wish I could start fresh as a beginner & not have the faults I've ingrained over the years. I didn't start playing until my early 20s & what was being taught back then is almost nothing like what's taught today.
I love you.
No idea what you are talking about here