You Won't Believe What This Boiler service uncovers! THIS WILL SHOCK YOU
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2024
- Boiler service is a very common job as a gas engineer and should be pretty straight forward. NOT on this occasion when we came across this Worcester Bosch combi boiler
We will be taking a look at the Worcester Compact from Worcester Bosch. We have 2 boiler services to show you, a routine boiler service which is straight forward and the other boiler service has got to be THE WORST boiler I've seen on a boiler service.
In the video you will demonstrate in the first part how to service the boiler from how to remove the front case, how to clean a condensate trap, how to put a Worcester combi boiler into service mode, correct fan pressure for a Worcester compact, minimum and maximum telegan readings and discussing common faults you may encounter when carrying out a boiler service as a gas engineer on this boiler.
In the 2nd part we will see how to perform a full strip down service, how to replace a Worcester combi AAV (auto air vent) how to replace the sump seal and showing you the condition of the boiler. We also investigate Worcester boiler error code EA 227
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00:00 Introduction
00:53 How to remove a Worcester compact case
01:44 Common faults Worcester compact
01:58 How to remove a Worcester compact condensate trap
02:44 Worcester compact Fan pressure test
02:56 How to put a Worcester Compact into service mode
04:36 Fan pressue readings Worcester compact
05:37 Summary of first job
05:58 Start of the Horror show
07:45 Uncovering the heat exchanger
08:36 How to clean a Worcester compact heat exchanger
10:42 How to replace the AAV
12:52 Summary - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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Was a gas engineer for over45 years glad I am now retired found boilers like that regularly and worse and many ungrateful customers that expected more than they were prepared to pay for
Enjoy your retirement mate…30 years to go for me 😫😂😂
In 30 years the gas industry as you know it will not exist@@bluebulldog_uk
I hate working on Worcester boilers. Once you work on Viessmann other boilers just seem unnecessarily complicated. Well done for taking it on.
Cheers mate, don’t get many viessmann boilers by me, mainly ideal, Worcester’s and baxi
It would have been interesting to see what reading you’d have got on the fan pressure pre strip.
Top video Luke. Keep up the good work.
You know what when I edited the video I thought exactly that, wish I had of done it now! Cheers mate appreciate the support
Mate what i do is take trap off completely, get a folding bucket in there and put a regin bung in sump. I use small/fine wire brush sticks like flue brushes and a hard brush and fill about a half a kettles worth of boiling water, get some bi carbonate soda and white vinegar. It will start to bubble up so dont panic lol. Whilst water mixture is in brush the hell out of it and then let it sit for 2 mins and then brush again. After about 20 mins youll get loads out and then use a pump spray bottle or small karcher cleaner and blast it through again. Those cleaning tools are wank and im actually suprised youve got one, as they are like hens teeth 😂😂. Those electrodes should of been changed there and then mate, they are really cheap aswell. How they are igniting the gas is beyond me 😂😂
Cleaning tool isn’t much good your right, no electrodes on van, I don’t see enough compacts to warrant having them on van, I did quote to replace but customer didn’t want it doing, not a lot I can do in that instance, if they accept quote il try something else to clean it as the Worcester tool didn’t work very well, thanks for advice mate
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Great job!
Thanks mate 👍
Fantastic video 👏
Thanks 👍
Very nice service on that compact. I would of done a few things more personally, but other than that it was a very good service. We'll done mate, you know your stuff.
Thanks mate 👍👍
good work its a shame the previous services were not carried out properly , it gives a good in site of the problems that build up if not done so . (shame on them )
well done to you , you did what others did not do and if they had of it would not have been in the state it was.
Great video content pal. Results apparent from more drive-by servicing🤞
Thanks mate, yeah drive by telegan for the last few years without much else being done by looks of it
Top work mate, I don’t miss Worcesters those compacts are a pain to work on, and let’s face it never get serviced properly. Nice to see you still have fingers after the work
Yeah part of the problem is boilers are never serviced properly and when you get one like the compact that has thin flueways they can be a pain! Yes luckily still have fingers 😂
One problem we all face unfortunately is prise as to strip a boiler down for example the cdi I do the top burner gasket front door seal barring platt and electrodes comes to at least £100 + 2 hours Labour makes it expensive you tell people that prise and they go somewhere else so normally I do a standard service for new customers until I get to know them then explain why they need to have the full service etc
Cool video really insightful look in to the trade
Thanks mate 👍
Great video mate! I’m not a fan of the Worcester Compacts either.❤
Cheers mate, really not a great boiler to work on!
Nice to see a proper full service being done via an independent gas engineer. After a few yrs of “flue gas test only” we reverted to direct OEM WB service on our 7yr old cdi and they replace the odd gasket and electrodes every year.
Thanks mate, yeah one to many telegan only services on this one by looks of it
Top video pal
Cheers mate 👍
Yes iam not a fan of the compact but love the rest of ther range
I feel sorry for good blokes like you, having to pick up the pieces after rip off merchants like the “plumber” that serviced that poor lady’s boiler. Great video.
Thanks mate; is a shame but do come across this every so often unfortunately
Mate you done a good work unfortunately this heat exchanger required changing 👍 possibly has an other few months on it before the heating over heats and air vents leaks again 🎉
It looks too far gone doesn’t it, shame really as no need for it to be like that if maintenance is done correctly
@@bluebulldog_uk Been a worcester bosch Engineer, and most times when I been called out is because the previous boiler services was done within 10 minutes. So when the boiler goes bongers and is broke down then local engineers 🤔 have easy way out!! They call 📞 warranty have the boiler parts replaced likewise Gasket seals, sparks and so on then go back and charge for an other 3 year's easy money 💰 (The one thing that passes me off is people charging old people and selling them cheap talk
I would love some companies to actually detail what gets done on a service as I've had several companies do a "service" on my boiler and the only thing that is ever consistant between them is the flue/gas readings. Everything else is hit and miss what one companie does to the next. Pretty much all of them dont bother with a full service.
They do
Each service they should be giving you advice, with my customers I always pre warn them when a major service is required and log it in the book and on certificate just so they am aware. I am surprised at amount of boilers I go to that have never had a major service, just flue gas readings and gas rate at meter each year
How about you tell the next company its never had a full service and your willing to pay for a full service, not just a 15 minute check
That’s not a service, just a safety check. Not sure what you charge but it’s not a service.
I’ve had a few of those compacts get into that state….more than any other. I don’t mind stripping them though
I just couldn’t get it any better, have you found anything that helps? Really struggled on this one 😅
@@bluebulldog_uk I’ve heard full fat coke….shit like that …prob wouldn’t shift that though. Think even a manufacturer once told me to forget it when they get they bad….. you just end up in a right mess with them….constantly blocking the trap..grey shit sludge everywhere
Hopefully the customer was understanding enough to buy you a drink for your efforts
One of them mini karcher pressure washer might do good
I got one now mate 👍👍
compacts are good for size , fitting in larder units etc . i dont work on them thou ha
Keep up the good work
Thanks 👍
Hi, was you asking about the gas rates when you was at that meter?
That gas meter you was at is an imperial gas meter so the eqatios are different from the metric ones. The imperial gas rate goes- one full revolution timed in seconds. Say 42 seconds. 3600 seconds in an hour divided by your 42 seconds gives you the cubiq feet an hour, 85.7. Then times that by 0.028 to get your cubiq meters an hour which for 42 seconds would be 2.4 cubiq meters an hour. Then you times that by the calorific value of natural gas which is 10.76. That would then give you 25.8kw gross and then devided by 1.1 will give you 23.4kw net.
With the metric gas meters it's a 2 min test. Note your numbers on the meter 1st and then after the 2 min test. Subtract your 2nd reading from the 1st reading. Example after subtracting the 2nd from the 1st you'll get something like 0.085. Then you times that 0.085 by 30 to get the cubiq meters an hour which would be 2.55 cubiq meters an hour. You then times that again by the calorific value to get 27.4kw gross and then divided by 1.1 = 24.9kw net.
I hope that's a help mate. The numbers never change so you'll always remember them and especially if you don't use an app.
Absolutely spot on fair play mate,
Thanks for taking the time to comment as well 👊👍👍👍
Get one of them little karcher pressure washer mate.
Seen people use them think it will be a good investment now 👍
Seen quite a few compacts like that, lads shit themselves when they first see them, or if they work for that big national it’s just a tellegan, but actually pretty easy once you’ve done a couple.
The Worcester servicing blade way too expensive, pick up a couple of upholstery needles off eBay instead.
Also bicarb and vinegar if it’s really bad.
Spot on mate if you haven’t don’t them before some won’t have a go, good shout with upholstery needles like that 👍
Most don’t get stripped until a breakdown unfortunately, or wait until the fan pressure drops but can be too late by then… would probs need to remove & pressure wash the hex
Yes I think customers forget about maintenance until the worse happens and sometimes it’s too late and it’s an expensive repair
When ther like that bung the condence pipe then poor neat white vinegar down the heat exchanger leave to soak for 10 mins then let it go into plumb tub then rod it through then I pour diluted white vinegar down and works good
Thanks for the tip mate, that Worcester tool barley touched it, not a good design
you can bung the sump and put some cola in the he, leave for 30 mins and it will all come out , done it on the kabab loads of times
Nice tip I’ve heard of it but…never tried it , had good results doing this?
I went to Worcester training centre to learn how to strip those down and they are hard to work on
That was awful . The boiler had all sorts in the heat exchanger. Sometimes there’s only so much you can do.
Yeah iv been told by Worcester you can use come on the kebab heat exchangers or bicarbonate soda too
Yeeuck, that's disgusting! You'd think they'd make a proper cleaner for it.
@@jannenreuben7398😂😂
Karcher portable jet washer holds 4 litres of water a god send for Worcester heat exchangers
Ordered one and came the other day 👍 been meaning to get on for ages
That last compact was dog shit the electrode assembly was shagged. They will be calling you back to that one mucka. Shame the customer has paid for a service each year and has an end result like that for the 9 years of thinking she’s getting a service. I look after a few compacts and I genuinely think they are ok to strip down but each to their own. I don’t think your getting enough views and likes for content your getting out there so I hope it gets better as you go on fella from one local lad to another I’ll support you Black Country all the way son.👍
Yeah im sure il get a call to say they are getting fault again, was in a right sorry state! Thanks mate really appreciate the support 🙌👍
Great content reminds me of my days on the front line. Please can you work on your speech you are just about coming over when working perhaps you could work on making each word alderble. Again thanks 😊
Thanks mate, I will do my best I’m looking at investing in a microphone and trying to remember to take my time when explaining stuff instead of rushing it 👍
Seen some people use a small Karcher spray to clear those heat exchanger flueways.
They need to make something to connect to the condense trap connection at the base that can allow the crap to flow easier
I’ve seen them and think I’m going to get one, I think taking the heat exchanger out and using a big pressure washer would struggle on this one thou!! 😂
Yeah i use a hand held garden sprayer need more pressure to get rid of the debris 👍🏾
Had my boiler serviced, guy came with a screwdriver, was here 10 minutes.
I am not a fan of Worcester gas combi boilers, awkward, difficult to access components and sharp edges.
I had a propane cdi classic recently, not been serviced for long time and heat cell was cemented up. Two hours to scrape, removed 2.5 mugs of oxide, then rinsed out even more. Made boiler work again but cannot get fan diff near spec. Aluminium heat exchangers work if cleaned properly once in a while .
The second boiler you showed had run too long.
So do you have different prices from a minor to a major service? First time going to a boiler in this state what are you saying to the customer? What charges have you made them aware of prior to the visit and how did this job impact your other jobs on this day? My day to day struggle of then fighting being behind on the day. 😂
Yes mate standard service quoted and do advise if it’s my first time servicing there boiler further work maybe required which will be quoted for separately 👍
Great vid. Very educational. Curious to know what software that is your using on your phone.
Gas engineer software mate had it 2 years been decent 👍
Good job buddy. Now do remember to subscribe & like b4 u run off.
Thanks mate and done 🙌👍
Think you can use coke on them heat exchangers, ask Worcester just to confirm next time.any chance it was British gas doing the service
Think someone else mentioned that as well, white vinegar has been suggested as well 👍
White vinegar works well
Kamco boiler descaler may help
Or mix soda crystal in hot water and pour in
Thanks for the tip mate 👍
@@bluebulldog_uk
On some boilers that are bad I remove trap and bung it with a bucket under it .
Fill up heatexchanger and let soak
Also use a large garden sprayer with only 1/3rd full of warm water and spray inside helps jet out heatexchanger.
If dont fully fill the sprayer get more presure
@@jezlucas3878 looking to buy the karcher OC3 pressure washer as really would of helped in this situation, thanks for tips 👍
@@bluebulldog_uk
Oh ,just looked at that looks handy
Made me think if my mini steam cleaner would help , that's got a good jet too .
All good fun, anything to get the job done
No 0800 number on the meter 😂 3:31
Very well spotted there mate 👍👍
Get some vinegar and bicarbonate of soda in there
Great tip thanks mate 👍
Didnt you recommend a new one?
New boiler? I did Yes mate but there planning on moving soon
Worcester Compacts are the worst. Did a full strip and deep clean on one last week. In a cupboard, corner of the kitchen, absolute twat of a job😂
That sounds horrific 😅😅
3600x1040 sherd by 3412 sherd by time take to do 1 rev shred by 1.1
3600 sec in 1 HR
1040 the caorific valve of gas
3412 BTUs in a kw
1.1 takes it from gross to net
👏👏 that’s the one! Used to know that off top of my head 😂👍
Bottle brush to clean the trap out
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easiest ive ever seen anyone in 10 years put them worcester cases on 😂🙌🏻
The case is a piece of piss on the compact. It’s the ri that’s a bastard 😂
You want to see the outtakes? 😂👍
😂😂they’re the easiest Worcester case. Still a million times easier than a vokera, they’re a nightmare.
I just have anxiety about worcester cases
Even worse when the customer is watching 😂
3600 ÷ seconds it took for a full revolution = ft3/hr
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Disgrace to charge someone for a service and to have clearly never touched it, gives tradesman a bad name. Unbelievable
I know, felt really sorry for them they was genuinely shocked the state it was in…seen it before thou people charging low price and just telegan and gone then left picking up pieces
What is it with servicing Worcester boilers, you have to buy seperate tools to clean the heat exchangers. Plus some are not cheap.
Good work on a shite boiler.
3 different tools I’ve got on van for Worcester boilers to clean them, no other boiler I can think of you need that many, thanks mate 👍
All Waze have it service every year
Definitely, pays for it self in the long run
I would have told the customer they needed a new boiler.
They am looking at moving so didn’t want the cost of a new boiler
I can’t believe a gas engineer calls a full service. Empty the trap. Gas rate and analyser. There’s much more to a genuine boiler service than that
Your right, we offer 2 different levels of service depending how old the boiler is etc but it’s hard to gauge so first service we normally do a standard and advice from there
Better to take heat cell out and blast it with high pressure washer in garden when it's that choked.
It would be but it’s cost and time to do it, should be an easier way with them boilers
@bluebulldog_uk I work almost exclusively on Worcester's.. so getting heat ex out and blasting it is relatively quick for me.. I'm not so quick on other manufacturers though.
@@raul835 yeah I bet when your working on them a lot it becomes 2nd nature…ideal isar I could have out jet washed and back in under an hour I’m that used to them 😅
How much do you charge for a job like this?
First hour was £80 additional hour was £50 plus £20 for parts
@@bluebulldog_uk Thanks for sharing that mate!👍✌
2:00 Why didn't you pour this foul water and sediment into a bucket rarher than into the basin?
09:30 And again! Not good mate
It’s condensate water not foul water and the sediment will easily pass through a 32mm trap with running water
It's not a good look for a professional,@@bluebulldog_uk.
when they have problems they all ways think a service will sort it out. if it was ok they would not have it serviced. come across a lot of people if it aint broke don't fix it
Yeah I get people call with breakdowns asking for a service to fix it, unfortunately some breakdowns are avoided when serviced correctly every year
not a fan of them green clips
Definitely not, not a great design from Worcester unfortunately on this one
((2nd reading - 1st reading/time taken to do test)x3600))
Il have to double check I can’t remember 😂 I used to know it off by heart
I hope you didn't charge your regular service charge. That looks like it's never been service, to be honest it's should be classed as more of a repair
We did charge extra but spoke to customer first about it 👍
I would take one look at that boiler and condemn it. I would nt work on it, walk away or fit now boiler. You will get called back to it forever
Can’t really condemn a boiler because it needs a service, yes it needs some work but it’s working safely, reading all within tolerance, it will need new electrodes so I’m expecting that call but I couldn’t just turn it off, if it fails and dangerous then fair enough but 2 hours work and the customer still has a working boiler
they are not that hard to work on. water quality. air vent will hold for how long. flushing is boring right? british gas service? i sat and watched one of them service 2 gas fires. half a bin bag of rubish p rubish from 1. lets not talk about the "service" on a vaillant. they seem to think that insurance covers everything.. whatever yr old being ripped off
British Gas service?
Installed and serviced for first few years then different company’s
Think shes telling you porkies son
I was wondering but I went through paperwork with customer and she had certifications for each year
I bet mine's the same. 12yo baxi, never seen them take it apart and clean like that. Usual is test gas, combustion, pump up pressure cylinder and that's it.
Compact is dog shite, electrodes awe lovely to swap
Really not a fan, never seen one that bad before either!
Bottle of coke then sit in your van for 15 minutes to do the crossword then wash it through.
All Worcester boilers 💩