ROG Ally | 4GB vs 8GB VRAM
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hey guys, comparing 16 games with 4GB vs 8GB VRAM. I personally use 8GB, however, I think Asus should give us more options, like 5GB, 6GB & 7GB.
0:00 - Resident Evil 2
1:10 - Alien Isolation
2:18 - Bioshock Infinite
3:03 - Bioshock Remastered
3:36 - Crysis
4:09 - Cyberpunk
4:50 - Diablo 4
5:30 - Dirt Rally 2.0
5:53 - Forza Horizon 5
6:50 - GTA 5
8:00 - Metro Exodus
8:41 - Microsoft Flight Sim
9:36 - Modern Warfare
10:25 - Red Dead Redemption 2
11:10 - Insurgency Sandstorm
11:47 - The Division
12:23 - Charts
15:33 - VRAM Options
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Yessir told you I was waiting ready for the video to drop
Amazing video!. Auto's been working great for me.
Wow thank you for this comparison. Auto vs 8gb would be also cool to see. Looking forward to more of your content. Subs 👍
Hey, check out my pinned comment, I just tested 5 of the games on Auto. The 1% and 0.1% lows suffer a LOT with Auto. I've played Horizon 5 quite a bit and the experience was really bad compared to using 8GB. Same with the other games.
@@filt3rlessthanks for this, diablo 4 rubber bands a whole lot on auto.
Dang, didn't expect the answer for my D4 stuttering to be so simple. Loving the content!
Glad it helped! As soon as you switch it off Auto you'll really like how Diablo 4 runs :)
Bro! You are killing it with these videos! Awesome content man. Also, I really liked the last video regarding the RIS! How do you feel about any of the other settings within the AMD software? Features like "Chill" or "Anti-lag" I don't touch any of that unless I see you talk about it lol. Furthermore, have you thought about any emulation such as: Yuzu, Cemu, RPCS3, Xenia canary?
Settings with any of those emulators would be amazing! Maybe that's more of a future thing since it is probably going to require a ton of testing especially because you are very thorough and the community as you can see really appreciates that! Keep the videos coming bro!
Agreed
Thanks man! I found chill to limit FPS is nowhere near as good as using RTSS, and Anti-Lag can cause major stuttering in some games. So I personally leave off Anti-Lag. I am wanting to do a video on anti-lag though, just to test it more in-depth.
The only emulation I do is CEMU, and it works pretty good on the Ally. I'm not much of an expert in the emulation department since I don't really use them. I might look into them at some point though :)
Thanks for this very interesting video!
Nice comparison. Interestingly for me when I was on 319, I had the same issues in COD as you and 8g fixed the stuttering but in Diablo 4 it was a stuttering mess for me. Tried Division 2 and the same on 4g so I tried the auto setting and Diablo 4 runs very smooth for me (high settings with shadows low and reflections, locked at 60 720 with RSR on and balanced) as well as division 2 at high settings with shadows reduced (locked 60 720) and smooth on COD also. Other games ran great and Fortza 4 at high settings ran great too. Though I did downgrade my bios to 317 prior to these massive stutters which fixed the micro stutters in Diablo.
What level of information! Best in the market. Congratulations!
Great video as always! Yeah 6gb ram feels like it would be optimal.
Great video. Thanks for this. Maybe add "VRAM" to the title so people searching for this can find the video more easily?
Hey that's a great idea, I just added it :)
Nice vid but you should have included more stats like vram usage and system ram usage per game.
What do you use for virtual memory settings if any at all and has rhat shown any effect to your performance?
Any XG Mobile content coming? Just got the 6850 XT and suppose to get 8 lanes but only getting 4 on the Ally…would love some deep dive videos for it with the Ally😁
Ohh nice! I don't have an XG Mobile :/. I've thought about getting one as I think it'd be awesome to have. I already have a pretty beefy Asus AMD laptop though. Have you tested to see if Freesync is working well through the XG Mobile? I know freesync wasn't working with the Asus Dock or any of the 3rd party docks I had. Not even the Steam Deck with display port worked with freesync.
Wow, this is sooo very helpful. I wonder how the AUTO setting stacks up against these? Good job!
Thanks :). Auto can be a good option, but some games don't like it. Diablo 4 is one of them that is basically unplayable when it's in Auto. Horizon 5 gives a warning message each time you try to start it. So I mainly wanted to test settings that someone can set and it'll work with all the games they're playing. Although, I'm sure there is a game where 8GB will cause the system memory to be so low it doesn't work properly. I just haven't found a game yet.
Thanks for the comment :)
Can you do a video with all the ram configurations?
I just pinned a comment where I tested 5 games in Auto. It's much worse on the 1% and 0.1% lows. For me it was very noticeable when running the benchmark as well how much more unstable Auto was. Some people might not be affected by the lower FPS as much as I am.
Buen video, a ver si optimizan más la Asus rog ally
Hey Mate, I would like to use some short parts of your 4GB vs. 8GB Video from the ally for a video of mine (which is a bout VRAM Allocation in iGPUs). I would Link to your Video in the Discription and mention and thank you in the video. Would that be okay for you? Cheers!
we definitely need the 6G option
And 5 also
Isnt that possible with windows settings? I think there was a way to do that
We need a 32gb option in reality
@@joeschmoe5009robably not cause the ally doesn’t have enough power to use more than 16 gb but idk I don’t have one but I would also love a 32 gb option if I were to buy an ally
@@venusprinzj8094 i found a way to customize VRAM using regedit, tried it but doesn't work
As usual, thanks dude for the awesome video!
Btw, are you able fo toggle AMD overlay? For some reason i cant do it, and i need it to try RSR :)
I keep the overlay enabled on mine and it pops up everytime I start a game. I'd try toggling it on/off and make sure that RSR, RIS, everything is off and start a game. If you're still not seeing it, I'm not sure what would be causing that. It might be worth re-installing the AMD driver.
@@filt3rless aight will give it a try, thanks for taking the time to get back brah!
You must turn off the performance monitor from command center, and set your resolution to 720p before entering the game
@@OakichI went to preferences and toggled it on; for some reason it was off. I then applied what you mentioned here. It worked! Thanks :) 🙏
I hear the Auto is even better would love to see you make a video with Auto as well
I have tested Auto out a bit. I haven't seen it beat out 8GB in the games I tested, but it has surpassed 4GB in a few. I might need to test it out more in-depth and do a video on it :) I just wish it wasn't game breaking like it does with Diablo 4, or causing error messages like in Horizon 5 (because of low memory).
I just pinned a comment where I tested 5 of the games in Auto. The 1% and 0.1% lows were much worse and very noticeable to me.
Thx for the feedback and I appreciate your hard work
⭐⭐NEW more in-depth video on VRAM here: th-cam.com/video/zPNvmg8wi0A/w-d-xo.html
--Original Comment
I ran "Auto" with the same settings on a few of the games above. Here are the results:
Horizon 5:
Avg: 73 FPS
1% Low: 48 FPS
0.1% Low: 22 FPS
Cyberpunk:
Avg: 60 FPS
1% Low: 29 FPS
0.1% Low: 14 FPS
Crysis:
Avg: 63 FPS
1% Low: 33 FPS
0.1% Low: 26 FPS
Metro Exodus:
Avg: 78 FPS
1% Low: 46 FPS
0.1% Low: 44 FPS
Diablo 4:
Avg: 47 FPS
1% Low: 16 FPS
0.1% Low: 2 FPS
Just based on the above 5 games I decided to stop testing Auto. While I see it could work for people, the stuttering and low 1% Low / 0.1% Lows were extremely bothersome to me. Some people don't mind this (and might not even notice it), and if you're using Auto and happy, I say keep using it. For me I would not enjoy the experience in Auto when I can use 8GB (or even 4GB) and get a much smoother experience.
So if I'm just playing basic games would a 4GB RX 580 be sufficient or is it worth it to get an 8GB GPU?
Pls let me know 😊
Once again : quality work !! 👍🙏
Did you try limiting cpu cores to 4 to see if it helps with gpu power ?
I didn't, just left everything as default so anyone who isn't tinkering with it would know the kind of results they'll see :)
At 1:12, there is a pop-up in the corner of your screen indicating which AMD settings are active. How do I enable this?
This guide I made will show you. th-cam.com/video/tEUoKjW_hV0/w-d-xo.html
Also, I recommend using RIS over RSR. Just the RSR video above has the tutorial in it. You can see how good RIS works in this video I made: th-cam.com/video/at6RXXjpfB4/w-d-xo.html
Man you called it! Not sure if you saw it yet but there's now a 5,6 and 7gb option for the Ally's Vram memory with todays 323 update but it has to be implemented through the bios.
Time to redeo the video lol
Yup! I saw that, what timing 🤣
@@adamzawacki4812 I’ll watch that one too lol
I like these breakdowns
I been using auto for about the last 3 weeks and it’s been amazing
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Nice! Glad it's been working :). It's rare that it doesn't work good, just certain games like Diablo 4.
How did you get that frame time graph? Is that the stock Rog Ally framerate monitor? Thanks
I'm using MSI Afterburner and RTSS. It isn't part of monitoring software. I just spent a lot of time tweaking it to make it look like it is (a little too much time to be honest 🤣)
@@filt3rless Ok that makes sense. I been using RTSS now for years. Didn't know you could make it look like that. Challenge accepted lol. Thanks man
It depends on the game if it requires a certain amount. If 2gb is all a game needs, 8gb won’t change nothing. This isn’t a performance enhancer.
I know this is basic info but some people don’t know.
10g maybe its a good option for some games. In diablo in auto you can put in high the quality textures, in 8g only medium😅
Can you add auto to the benchmark? I am curious if it makes any difference.
I've tested Auto a bit outside of these videos and it works pretty good on a lot of games. However, I haven't seen it beating either 4GB or 8GB in performance (from my testing). And the issues with Diablo 4, Horizon 5, and other games make it where I hesitate to recommend it to people.
Use the built in benchmark for mw2. The in game numbers are way unpredictable and can vary greatly match to match.
Hey, thanks for the tip man :). I usually do run benchmarks but wanted to see specifically DMZ performance. However, like you said it can definitely vary from match to match.
Yep, my experience also. Running 8G, until they give us 6G option (hopefully). Forza Horizon 5 benchmark doesn't do it justice though, in real gameplay there's lots of microstutter on 4G, which is gone when running with 8G.
Yeah, I just tested Horizon 5 on Auto and was much worse than even 4GB. The 1% lows in game where terrible when playing as well. So 8GB is definitely the option to use :)
5-6-7G option is in the bios now with latest update
@@wafflicious359 Thanks :). I'm currently testing them. I found something strange though. Stay tuned for the new video :)
The 8gb is overall not a good option imo…ROG Ally would need to have 32GB RAM for 8GB to become viable for us…once we set VRAM to 8GB the system starts lacking RAM a lot!
For 1080p 6GB of VRAM is the sweetspot but even that might be “too much” in most games as we usually play games at low/medium textures which is graphic setting that eats VRAM the most.
4GB VRAM is amazing for most games and as some people in the comments already said…we definitelly need 6GB option for those AAA games!
I always use high texture settings and everything else too. I like to enjoy beautiful game graphics. 30-40 fps good for me
hello, for better performance do you recommend 4go of vram or 8go ?
I've found 8GB is offering more stable performance. You can try it out, and if you notice any games aren't working well, just remember to try switching it back to 4GB and see if it runs better.
@@filt3rlessThank you for your answer I will put it at 8gb
Simply put, most games is RAM starved.
Not surprised and already knew it when I got the Ally.
Still great video as always. Hope to see some quick AUTO testing to see how it compares.
I totally forgot you can change the vram after playing Diablo 4 only on 4g i just tried 8 g and it plays so much smoother
Thanks but you should've done Auto too. The Ally should've came with 32GB of RAM or at least make it upgradable.
I pinned the Auto results in the comments. It's too unstable for me to recommend. And I definitely agree with the RAM, they at least should have had an extra slot so we could put another 16GB in it or swap to a 32.
Is there a risk leaving it at just 8GB?
I don't think there is any risk from my tests. If you do notice a game that seems to be having issues, it would be worth switching back to 4GB to see if it makes a difference. I'm sure there are games out there, that will need more system ram and will have issues, I just haven't found any yet in my testing. So if it's working for the games you like, then I say keep it, just remember to switch it back if you run into any weird issues :)
the best thing is for asus to make 32g ram model
What is more powerfull? AUTO or 8Gb?
Based on my testing 8GB is a better option. However, I think the BEST option is 5 or 6GB. If you're playing CoD however, you pretty much have to use 8 to get good performance. But all the other tests I've done work well at 5GB and 6GB.
I think you should have used 1080P to make it more realistic scenario of why you gonna end up using 8GB over 4GB....
1080p was used in (Resident Evil 2, Alien Isolation, Bioshock infinite, Bioshock Remastered, Diablo 4, Dirt Rally 2.0, GTA 5 & Call of Duty).
@@filt3rless No I meant on games like Cyberpunk and MSFS where Vram is limited, I understand you might say 720P is ideal setting but alot don't like to change resolutions and just keep it one for all games, so 8GB will be for ones who looking at 1080P gaming
I agree.
However, I have been absolutely blown away by what the Ally can do with RSR (I only use if no native FSR support in game) enabled at 720P. Quick summary of my experience:
Some of my fav games (valheim, Elden Ring) are unfortunately pretty poorly optimized and just not a great experience in 1080P. Kicking RSR on and dropping to 720P gives me pretty much a locked 60 in both with a mix of Med and Low settings, but does NOT look like 720P. It's a great experience and text is not difficult to read .
That said, there are plenty of other games that just look absolutely horrible and aren't good candidates for RSR, but most of the ones I've run into in that category run really well at 1080P after fine tuning the settings. :)
@@TRX25EX Ahh okay gotcha. Have you tried using RIS (Radeon Image Sharpening)? It makes 720p look good with 0 performance hit AND it's not like RSR, it's just a turn on and leave setting. It also works at 1080p, then no matter if it's 720p or 1080p it looks pretty good :)
@@ijmoney4539 I have tried out RSR and I like what it can do. Have you tried running RIS (Radeon Image Sharpening) at 720p? I found it looks great and offers even better performance since there is 0 impact on performance.
is it bad running 8G all the time?
Only if a game you like playing looses performance. So far 8GB has been working really well for the games I play. I say try it out on the game you like playing, if you notice any issues, just remember to switch it back to 4GB to see if it makes a difference.
The new bios has new options for vram
Wow, what are the odds!! 🤣. Thanks for the comment. I just upgraded and yup, there is 1-8GB in the bios now... That's awesome. I guess I have some work cut out for me to create a new video haha.
No "The Last of Us on the benchmark
6gbs and finish.
I've noticed that 8gb helps with some games not all
I've seen the same :). I really want that 6GB option, hopefully Asus adds it. I think it'd be a good sweet spot between 4gb and 8gb.
I was gonna say the same there's no 6gb option that would be useful if added
Why dont you just put it in auto ?
There are issues in some games with Auto. Horizon 5 being one of them, anytime you start the game there is a pop up behind the splash screen that will keep it from launching until you click ok. Also the performance from my testing does not beat 8GB. In Diablo 4 you get major stuttering when in Auto. I was going to do an Auto vs 4GB v 8GB, but after realizing the problems with Auto I decided to stick with 4GB vs 8GB. However, if Auto is working for you or anyone else, they should use it. I did enjoy it until I started running into issues in certain games.
I just pinned a comment with 5 games tested with the exact same settings. The 1% and 0.1% lows are much lower in most of them. Some people won't notice this. 8GB is a lot smoother though when compared to Auto.
man i get 80C on diablo 4 with even lower settings!!! you are getting 70C, how?
I'm running 25W Manual (all 3 sliders). It keeps it from boosting up to high watts: th-cam.com/video/NNy5Nkw9oAw/w-d-xo.html
of couese theyregonna be equal you ran everythingon med. higher res textures is whereit needsthe extra memory. use some common sense man, but otherhen that good vid
If I end up doing deep dives into games I'll test a variety of settings. However, I wanted to try and test these games at settings people would enjoy the screen on the Ally. If they're all running below 60FPS, then I feel it'd somewhat be taking away from the experience the Ally can offer. Glad you like the videos :)
I always use high texture settings and everything else too. I like to enjoy beautiful game graphics. 30-40 fps good for me
The difference is so small its not worth it