Is It Worth It To Buy A Thunder Junction Commander Deck? A Magic: The Gathering Product Review
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FYI, there's a few poor audio edits that result in repeating lines. 4:39 and 7:55
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They are starting to sell them at Target along side the cards they sell in the store.
cracking an exact copy of the commander in the collector sample is pretty funny
Pretty annoying tbh
Imagine the probability of it happening hahah
I don't expect a lot from the collector samples, bit this time I pulled a Wanted Poster Oko, a 20 € card, so that was a nice surprise
I did that with the Doctor Who villains deck, and that's after the Missy card got misprinted and I got a second Davros in the main deck instead
@@llAlukall I puled a deflecting swat from the sliver precon. I got hyped lol
I actually liked the thicc commander cards. I keep them all sleeved up in a box and it's how we randomly select a precon to play.
i use them as my commander, while i keep the regular ones on my binder for whenever i need those
I also liked them. How many times have you accidentally shuffled your commander into your deck? Wont happen with the thiccc boi.
I used to use a different sleeve on my commander, but somebody got super aggro about that.
@Mcfarad595 I mean its only ever an issue if you dont put them in the command zone when they get tucked.
I use them as dividers in deck boxes lol
Watching while waiting outside my card shop to open
You're hardcore!
Same!!
Literally same lmfao
can you get the precons on prerelease day?
@@christian-gu8zxYes. I picked up 2 today
This review feels a little harsh in retrospect. I watched this and felt pretty discouraged about the 4 outlaws pre-cons I already bought. I was left thinking “did I waste my money”? But I just played the Olivia precon out of the box during commander night and it felt pretty solid. It was thematic, and consistent all night. Maybe it’s because I’m newer to commander, but I enjoyed having a simple yet explosive theme, like treasures + outlaws, that did its thing every time. I even won 2 of my 3 commander games tonight with that deck.
Maybe it won’t hold up at more competitive tables, but I struggle to understand if that’s how we should judge precons in a format that touts being welcoming to all kinds of players. Players, like me, who are coming to commander to escape the pressure of standard competitive tcgs, and just pick up a thematic deck, meet some new people, and get a few social games in every week 😄
I recently got some friends into magic with the precons. That’s how I learned that the included deck box is actually big enough to hold the deck fully sleeved in dragon shields, plus tokens. They’re actually much better than they used to be
But not double sleeved.
I got an old deck pox to keep my hundred tokens in😅
And they fit perfectly in a Stanley deck box box 😅
And they fit perfectly in a Quiver
You need to really squeeze them to make that happen...
I liked the thick commanders. I always use those rather than the thin ones because they stand out more and feel like a leader. I dunno. Kinda sad they're gone!
Use a top loader for your commander
100% agree with you! I use them when I play.
I liked having them because there were essentially two copies of it in the deck, so you could toss one into another deck, and have the thick one as an obvious "don't shuffle this in" commander for an actual deck
@@GlassEater420Problem is not all deck boxes can carry top loaders. I like the thick ones because they fit into any. Plus I hate the look of top loaders.
I'm still excited to pick up Desert Bloom and rebuild for a classic desert archetype, it's many times cheaper as a precon than to buy the important cards alone as singles in this case
Plus I can't turn down that reprint Hazezon 😍
Hazezon is like a 50 cent card though
Hazezon, Shaper of Sand is my favorite deck I own and I’ll definitely be getting some singles from this but I’m not buying the precon bc I already have like 80% of the deck.
I've been on a weird ride but for Quick draw: At first I dismissed it since I thought it was just another Izzet burn/storm deck. Then I read the commander and realized it's actually going to be fairly usable in cedh decks as it can basically combo with everything and a ham sandwich to go infinite draw, infinite storm, infinite token creatures, infinite mana, infinite everything mostly.
But the rest of the 100 on that precon I sadly own already: mostly because it has far too many reprints from *another* commander deck: the Strixhaven Prismari Performance deck which was also an izzet burn deck.
I want the desert deck as im too lazy to build it. But I can modify a pre con
definitely disagree with it being cheaper buying this deck
They didn't reprint the Hazezon that needs one. ):
Timestamps for decks
7:40 Most wanted; earn treasure. buy outlaws
9:38 Desert bloom; discard lands. grow them back
11:19 Quick draw; sling multiple spells. unleash big turns
13:17 Grand larceny; steal cards. generate mana
reccomend just watching the full video though
Another honest review. Knowing the professor is here makes magic so much better to play ❤
@@xardas149 How can one be baseless about sourced prices? And besides, even if the guy is horrible at magic, how does that impact anything about the video?
I was able to pre-order the Thunder Junction Pre-cons for $129.99 from our LGS which is $32.50 each plus tax. I appreciate you rating them for us. Thank you for the video Professor.
I wish I had those prices... here they are 75$ minimum each..
I did this too and split the decks with my play group! Hope to do that with bloomsburrow too
@@gamersrevenge6528 Those are outrageous prices. I pay a dreadnought membership at a store in San Francisco called Versus. Every month they have a new sale.
I can agree but I WILL be getting Desert Bloom. All because I need the new Deserts and Desert themed cards to go in my already existing Hazezon, Shaper of Sand --- DUNE themed deck that runs on Deserts and Sandwurms.
You should store it in the dune 2 popcorn cup lol
Damn, I had some high hopes for Desert Bloom
Im hurting rn i preordered
Personally, I like Desert Bloom a lot from what I've seen. It doesn't have the financial value, but it has a lot of support for a desert lands theme, and before now it felt like Hazezon was missing a lot of pieces
@@SeniorNano I did too, so it's disappointing to see it be the lowest value of the 4
However as a buyer of the Dinodeck from Ixalan, I think i'm fine with the Naya Precon taking and L here after how monstrous I've made that thing
Tbh I'm excited to build it into my own thing once I get my hands on it, lack of value be damned!!
@@SeniorNano Same, but it is what it is. I'm still going to have fun with it and am excited to upgrade
Same here.
I feel like regular set precons need to be $30 again. No one is buying these when you can get LOTR, Fallout, or 40k themed decks.
, editing mistake. Fumbled take was kept in. It's very funny
Edit: And again at .
What the fuck?
your time stamps are missing
Huh?
That's because it's a porn spam bot
@@Zettabyte7 I know, but I've never seen one with this kind of comment!
Wait, what? The thick foil etched frame cards were some of my favorite things
I was probably going to get Quick Draw anyway since I'm already running an Izzet Ghyrson Starn spell-slinger deck. Might even swap out commanders and let the ol' three armed gunslinger take a break for a minute in the 99. He's such a kill on sight target that perhaps he'll draw less attention if he only appears periodically.
@richshirk4772 do you have a deck list you can share?
I’m getting the Olivia deck no matter what. I’m so in love with the vampires in the Wild West aesthetic. It’s very “American Vampire”. I’m just happy they made a deck that serves my oddly specific kink. I’ll probably keep improving the deck over time haha
Has that "From Dusk to Dawn" vibe right?
Fellow Mommy Kink enjoyer?
I bought it as i didn't have a mardu deck, but it is definitely one that needs the most upgrading to do well. The commander itself is pretty lacking too so it likely will never reach the competitive table.
I am a simple lesbian. I see southern belle Olivia Voldaren with a treasure token theme. I buy the precon.
@@gemmafire8628ya bro me too
i liked the thick carboard commanders i wish they had given us the backup commanders in the treatment while they lasted
Damn, I like the thick commanders. They still fit in sleeves so u could keep them safe but they stand out if u accidentally shuffle it intk ur deck.
I think the most baffling design decisions with these decks is the color identity of the legends. There's a single one that's dual-color, while the others are three-color.
Of the three color ones, two of them are playing in mechanical space that easily could have just been two colors and still make sense for the characters representing them. Subtract White from Olivia and subtract Green from Gonti, and neither deck would change all too much. The Outlaws deck archetype in OTJ limited is Red/Black, and of the outlaw types, White generally lacks the majority of them. The Theft-cast theme Gonti goes for is actually really funny, because if you search the scryfall tag "theft-cast" in these colors, you will find exactly 3 cards that involve green: Villainous Wealth, which doesn't synergize with this commander design at all, Flotsam//Jetsam which also does not synergize directly with Gonti, and then Gonti himself. Both of these decks as a result lack focus because the designers had to put in a bunch of filler cards to justify the inclusion of these colors. Both decks would be much more tightly designed if they had just stuck with the two colors that the themes they play in instead of tacking on a spandrel third color.
The other two face commanders are perfectly fine in terms of color identity. Red/Blue is the "Second Spell Matters" draft theme in many sets, which includes OTJ, and Deserts-matters has been solidly Red/Green/White ever since Hazezon, Shaper of Sand was printed in late 2022.
Honestly I really like the wanted poster cards. Having the different frames make the decks feel and look as unique and personal as they are gameplay-wise. Also I just think the old western font looks cool. And because I like cowboys. "Stetsons are cool" - The Doctor
Agreed. I mostly side with the prof when it comes to thinking these alternate frames are stupid and hard to read. But I freakin love cowboys
I thought the idea behind thick commander was that you could use them in command zone when playing with the precon, while taking the actual playable commander card and putting it into 99 in some other deck
I thought it is think so you can find it easier after you inevitably shuffle it into your 99.
@@unything2696 Or that!
@@unything2696 why make your life harder and not put commander in different sleve though?
this would make your deck not legal as you have only 99 actual cards in a deck. i wish instead they include some kind of token to make tracking commander tax easier, like full art from commander with textbox saying "times commander was cast from command zone".
@@m1gr3nA Because I'm cheap and use mostly clear sleeves;) Playing for 20 years now (since Urzas Saga), we used to play unsleeved on your mamas kitchen table.
6:30 - This isn't a bad idea; have the 100 card deck, then the 3 foil cards for the 3 possible commanders (or, when partners are involved, all of the relevant new partners as well). This gets around the "maybe this is a marked card" problem quite effectively. I mean, they should do this with $30 commander decks, but whatever.
To be clear, though, there should be 3 dedicated commanders; the Face Commander, a Backup Commander, and then a good Reprint Commander. I'd be okay with 3 new commanders as well, but the iconic Reprint Commander has some history to it, and it's a good way to offer options w/o eating up design space. I *DO* think they need to stop including new legendary creatures cards that can't be your commander in that precon these products... those belong in the main set, or in a future commander deck. If you got the job to commission a BU deck, but you really want to put in your mono blue custom commander.. and it can't have partner for power reasons... tough luck fella! Do your job, and do it right.
When I saw the decklists I decided to finally get the Ixalan Merfolk precon. Happy I did, I have so much fun with it. Even Spirit Squadron from Crimson Vow looks super interesting
That Merfolk precon is a banger. I "accidentally" bought my son the dinosaur one and for the most part, that Merfolk precon seems to be the only precon to outpace it.
I bought Grand Larceny and Most Wanted.
I have a kid named Olivia so I had to get Most Wanted. As for Grand Larceny, I basically have this deck built already but in Grixis with Twelfth Doctor and Clara so that I can steal your stuff and score some political points by giving it to another player. I'll move the theft cards there and build a Felix Five-Boots deck out of the other parts. :)
8:10 Prof you can't have your cake and eat it too-- we love when prices go down, even if it does affect the overall "value" of the pre-con. You're playing both sides of the argument...
it's funny seeing prof say he doesn't think desert bloom is a good deck after just having watched commander at home and seen Brian make a thousand scute swarms in a single turn. I'm not saying prof is wrong, I'm saying it's funny
Love your videos and these precon reviews especially. The only thing that bothers me is that I feel like there is some inconsistency when you're assessing the "bulkless value" - sometimes cards below 2$ will be ignored, this time it was below 1$ and maybe I'm mistaken here, but I believe that at some point it was even below 1.50. Would be nice to see a bit more concistency here to be able to better compare prices of different precons sets!
The Desert Bloom one is really fun to play. I just got it today and swapped a few cards. I was able to make a lot of landfall triggers with Scute Swarm (six lands already) and Reshape the Earth (ten lands onto the battlefield). 🎉🤠✨️
Yeah, I've watched a few gameplay videos and Desert Bloom goes _off._
I don't even play commander. I just love the profs takes on products!
Dude, the beard and moustache looks badass, hell yeah \m/,
Can't shake off the feeling that WotC is now withholding the best designs for the "definitely not a premium product, just priced at a premium" precons. You know, like the upcoming Commander product Modern Horizons 3.
4:40, editing mistake. Fumbled take was kept in. It's very funny
Edit: And again at 7:55.
He does this like every video
these are kept in to farm for engagement. common youtube thing nowadays, kind of annoying tbh
I'm a fumble that was kept
Hey so this isn't the first time, you bring up the 2013 commander product as the first set, but they're the second. It doesn't change that the decks started at $29.95, but the first set of commander decks were in 2011 (the ones featuring Zedruu, Kaalia, Animar, Ghave, and Mimeoplasm as the face commanders)
And THANK YOU for calling for nonfoil face commanders. I actively avoid foil cards, and it was frustrating to see certain cards completely unavailable in nonfoil, or only available in those horrible stretchy frame art. Adrix and Nev was a particular frustration being great in token decks, but neither printing was acceptable visually to me.
Even the Prof calls it Markov Manor lol
He says “Markov” instead of Murder bc he doesn’t want to be demonetized. He said it in a video during the sets review cycle
@seelikemee yes that's understandable but it's Karlov not Markov
@@thefroninjaproject3199 oh did he say Murders at Markov Manor? I know in the past he has said “Markov at Karlov Manor”
@seelikemee he just says "Markov Manor" 18:20 I've heard a lot of people say that too lol
I do miss the oversized commander cards, they were great for foil peels.
At least we got reprints of the new fallout filter lands for the people who don't want to play universes beyond cards.
I had pre-ordered Desert Bloom, saw the Decklist and canceled immediately. Glad I have The Prof's backing on that one. Sounds like they'll be pretty cheap in a few months.
Dessert bloom as a deck looks pretty fun with some modifications, but maybe I should just play Windgrace instead... stupid sexy panther...
I'm so happy I only got the Quick Draw precon. I almost took it apart, but I'll keep it with small modifications and maybe even change the commander to the other face commander. Thanks Prof for all you do❤
Returning player here, and TBH, I was looking for the mutant Fallout Commander, but the ran out in my 2 LGS I have the closest. Then I saw these on a biref discount, and grabbed the Gonti deck mainly because one of my favorite triple color combinations.
Overall I am happy with my purchase and will buy some upgrades to it, and then look for a commnader that play more on the colors I want (Gonti is basically a Dimir Commaer with green taxed to him for some reason).
I know you talked about buying cheaper commander decks, and I will at some point, but NGL, I really want the Fallout Mutant deck, not only because I like fallout, but also that;s the type of deck(s) I love to play.
Though I'm likely in the minority, I'm actually very disappointed they got rid of the thick commander proxies. I've been keeping a bundle box full of each precon deck's tokens in card sized ziplock bags with the thick proxy on top as a way to quickly pick out the token pack when using its correlating deck. I guess I'll have to start printing them out now.
Watching whilst sleeving Stella Lee Quickdraw
Did the wrong video file get uploaded? There are some weird cuts and repeated takes
Thanks for the video! Admittedly a bit sad that Desert Bloom is as rough out the box as it is, since I was admittedly going to just pick it up after reading Yuma's side story and seeing some actual legendary transmasc rep. But there's potential there at the very least, tempted to look into upgrading it.
I am an Izzet stan until the day I die. But, I will be skipping this. Its no more interesting than my Ghyrson Starn brew and I don't need any pieces from it (anymore, because I finished my Starn brew 2 weeks before the lists were revealed :/). Not enough here to justify giving WotC money.
Decklist?
Why does WOTC keep making commander decks wildly inconsistent with reprint value?! The karlov manor decks felt like we were going in the right direction, what happened?
Honestly with precons, I don't treat them as such.
I treat them more as a base to get started. A cheaper way to get a deck to play, and have fun. Something you can upgrade over time.
Use the old cards as bulk in other decks until you can start building your own as you grow your card base.
I'm picking up the Most Wanted Precon, since i wanted a Deck in that color. I'll rebuild it to include treasure/artifact payoff. But something like Merchant of Truth from Deep Clue Sea would have been nice.
It should be noted that Bloodthirsty Adversary is going to rotate out of Standard soon, where she sees large play in RDW, and that will likely cause her price to fall.
There is a noteworthy but minor improvement in the land base in those, some of the pricier reprints were the good filter lands, like Twilight Mire.
And also the fast lands, although here there is a notable exception in the Izzet deck not receiving one, even though it feels like it could use it the most - WotC definitely said that Spirebluff Canal is too pricey of a card to just include it in the precon, which is a shame.
Going to my first pre-release tomorrow excited to crack some packs and have a few commander matches
I always thought getting 2 versions of your commander was nice. I often used the thick, hard one as the commander and could still play the other one in a deck
I didn't find myself excited by these precons. I think even some card from the main set are more suitable to build interesting lists. Also, i got disappointed by the fact that most archetypes were kind of based on the main mechanics from the set (which are superflaverful), but but didnt dive too much into them to end up in some middle ground. Like the gonti deck being about stealing your opponents, but overlooked the Commit a Crime cards. Will we see a Build-your-own-precon Marchesa "Go, Do Crime" Deck? Would love to play it.
4:39 small editing mistake, you say the same thing twice.
Did someone forget to edit some of this? Lots of double takes in this one.
I honestly find it amusing that in some videos you rave about about reprints and more more more to make it more affordable and in next, I hear gripes no card over $10, this is not worth buying as there is no financial value, etc, etc.
Pick a side, do you want to have chase valuable cards or do you want it to be cheap no value everybody gets a copy? Both ideas are really not compatible
i bought most wanted earlier today and, honestly, i had fun playing it! i absolutely get the critiques but i really enjoyed the playing of it. it may feel a bit slow on getting the creatures out but the loop of the deck is pretty fun (making treasure, buffing outlaws, repeat)
I have a Veyran deck already, might pick up Quick Draw and mix it with it.
How did you play the desert deck?? From my playtesting and from all gameplay videos I watched, it seems very interesting to pilot and can certainly make a lot of fun to play. Of course it will be better with upgrades - but this is true for all precons.
Usually really like your takes, but it’s a strong disagree this time.
4:39 the proff stuttering his script, I relate a lot while reading my card effects :'D
more of an editing blunder tbh
lovely review as always prof!
something that bothers me is that the bounties are not "in addition", they replaced 3 of the double sided tokens from each deck for these bounty cards 😅 i would rather have more tokens tbh, especially since the desert deck makes so many
I literally just bought the grand larceny deck and saw this video, now will see if I got something good or shit
I couldn't agree with you more on the full 100 card deck in non-foil, Professor! My first modification to any of my precon decks is to "de-foil" as many cards as possible to prevent the curse of curling.
I regret purchasing before watching. I ended up choosing desert bloom and most wanted for my girlfriend and I haha.
seems to have double audio😊 4:40
Cowboy hats on all the cover art so you know it's a cowboy world with cowboys...
I'm happy that they're not as powerful as the Ixalan precons out of the box, I still hold that Pantlaza was a mistake.
The quality dip at the same price point is the real problem here.
That Dino precon is scary out of the box. Add some of the Jurassic Park dinos and it gets even worse. Ironically, that merfolk precon seems to keep it in its place by outpacing, but barely. Add the fact that Roaming Throne came from that set as well and Good God!!!
7* doubled sided tokens (not 10, 3 bounty cards replaced them)
The audio is a big of a mess with a few obvious cuts that dont blend correctly. Odd for TCC.
So when does "New Secret Lair Alert" become "New Commander Pre-Con Alert"?
I actually bought deep clue sea after your recommendation, decent deck, after some upgrades it's become one of my favorites and it's quite good 😁
It's only $34 on Amazon right now (April '24), so maybe recommend for a friend if you like it.
I liked the thick cardboard proxies. :(
Was quick draw really that good or were the others such a let down that it makes quick draw out shine.
Would definitely like to see the addition of non-foil variant of the commander face cards. Even the foils quality issues aside, it's still my preference to play with non-foils, especially if I use them in the 99.
Love these videos, and thanks for the insight Professor 👏
But the editing is a bit sloppy by the standards of your other videos! A lot of ‘duplicate’ audio in the video
im new to following this stuff live but its only a day later and quick draw is only about $43 on amazon currently. considering my own Niv Mizzet Parun deck is fairly solid but could use some help with consistency, its a no brainer for me
I was looking at the Most Wanted decklist when they got released, and immediately was like, nope, not getting this one at all. It really values a treasure theme but gives you no ways to make treasures reliably enough without the commander, and still, that's one treasure per player hit. They could have 100% reprinted dockside, professional face breaker, xorn, and other things for this precon.
In "defense" of desert bloom when compared to Lord Windgrace...that precon was not great either, as good as Lord Windgrace himself is.
And I'm bummed about the thicc cards. I love those! I use them as my actual commander card and keep the proper card as a backup or to add to the 99 of other decks.
I actually enjoyed the thiccc cards because I can sleeve them up as my commander, never accidentally shuffle them in my deck, and then use the normal card for a different deck or give it away.
Now I have nothing 😭😭
Saying Desert Bloom is one of the worst is extremely surprising. A couple of buddies of mine and I all picked up one of the decks and we all thought desert bloom was op. We played like 7 games and it won 5
I felt like the Olivia deck was pretty decent. Builds a board rather quick and makes alot of treasures. But yeah, power wise quick draw does out shine the other 3 options. Just very consistant with all the card draw. The archetype just fuels itself really well. So you will have to target it early, when they don't have any engine cards up yet.
I do like Desert Bloom for being essentially a Landfall Starter Kit. The main issue is just... well, deserts, mostly. Most deserts are low quality as lands, and it didn't include some of the better ones.
I gotta say it, is the editor doing ok? Lots of repeated script lines in this video.
Yuma is so much *better* than Windgrace as a precon, and I am kinda surprised Prof thinks otherwise. the C18 precons were notoriously of poor quality in terms of build and Windgrace, while in an of himself a powerful Lands commander, the precon was more *ramp* than lands matter. And the Yuma deck does cover a lot of the core cards for the strategy, and I am not entirely sure what could've been added to make it better. Pricewise, cards like Wrenn and Six maybe, but those aren't all that great in an EDH graveyard-y lands strat anyway.
I have more to say - also, a Deserts matters deck is probably *the* most accessible lands strategy (beside simic Tatyova maybe) because it relies on a stack of uncommon lands, most of which were reprinted.
In my humble opinion, Yuma is probably a better precon than Grand Larceny.
While some editing is needed (I'd say, 20 cards out, 20 cards in) the deck contains most of what it needs to play well.
The only issue I see is consistency.
The self mill helps Yuma, but runs the risk of milling your most powerful landfall cards. I plan on replacing MOST of the mill cards with card draw and (mostly rummage) discard. The card draw will hopefully allow me to more consistently draw into my landfall wincons while discarding the excess deserts.
Yuma does the Gitrog thing that Windgrace couldn't do on his own. I'm actually happy that Yuma isn't a basic landfall commander. I feel the precon lacks good graveyard enablers but the "big" reprints focused more on landfall stuff, which might point people toward the wrong direction. You can kind of argue that the precon is flawed in terms of being a focused strategy, and I'm guessing the lack of consistency in filling the graveyard with lands and getting deserts in there at the right time is why Prof graded it the way it was (reprint costs aside).
I think it could have been improved with more ways to dig deeper and find deserts while doubling down on lands in the graveyard theme. Just to name some: Sylvan Scrying, Tectonic Reformation, Nahiri's Lithoforming, Imposing Grandeur, Decaying Time Loop, Borborygmos Enraged, Shigeki, Multani. For premium reprints I would've preferred cards like Elvish Reclaimer and Life from the Loam rather than Ancient Greenwarden.
where tf did someone find reap the tides for 20 bucks, what a steal.
The bounty cards actually take up slots in the tokens. There’s only 7 double faced tokens and 3 bounty cards instead of the 10 double faced tokens that decks normally have.
Still waiting for precons to get Bondland reprints since they make so much sense. Aaaaaaany set now, Gavin.
I do enjoy the little jabs about these whenever he's on Shuffle Up and Play.
As someone who loves nonfoils > foils… I would love if they include the non foil of face and backup commander… I hate always having to purchase them separately
I absolutely agree with the idea of having the commander cards come with both foil and nonfoil versions. I don't like foil cards and it is always a pain to find a nonfoil because usually the nonfoils are special versions that cost more.
Gonna be honest, hard to get excited about this. We just get a consistent glut of Commander decks. We need variety. Just the other day I was thinking about wanting to try a bit of Modern, maybe even Standard. Whoops! I have to go out of my way to do that now, so I won't instead of picking up a product to ease me in. Meanwhile, forty million commander decks forever. I like commander too but geez. Can each set really strain to have FOUR of these? It's ridiculous.
I picked up the desert deck mainly to upgrade my hazzazan. The precon wants land recursion but has to few land fall triggers and ways to cheet mutple lands in to play, especially since most desert come in tapped and have a cost to produce colored mana its very easy to mana screw yourself. Amluet of vigor, crusaible of worlds, and dryad are required. It should have been jund for more graveyard support
I think we have to take a look at a lot of the reprints in the $5 dollar range that just a year or two ago would have been in the $15 and up range. There have been a lot of reprints in commander precons, masters sets, and bonus sheets that have done just as we've hoped, Bringing prices down. It's less and less likely to see big reprint equity the more cards are reprinted.
Actually excited for the desert bloom precon. Plan to upgrade it, been wanting a desert deck for a while
Happy Birthday Prof! hope one day you come to Brazil again! bye
Hope so too!
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I watched this after picking up Quick Draw not knowing anything about commander decks. I was worried when hearing about the other 3 but then relieved that I picked up the right deck. I look forward to playing Quick Draw in my first commander game. Look forward to hearing what you think of Duskmourn, I pre-ordered all of the commander decks because of the theme
Thank you, I am very happy I watched this video and avoided a bad purchase
I had hopes for the outlaw deck just because of Olivia's character and the theme looked cool. I'm kinda surprised with this year's spring commander decks. They usually release 5 with whatever standard set it's for.
I hate the foil only commanders. If you want to play normal cards without any special art / versions and you want to put one of these into your 99, youre forced to have it in foil, because a regular nonfoil version simply does not exist. It annoys me so much.