@@zappa916 This is sold as an hvlp but the air consumption is 3.5 -3.9 cmf. I checked in several different places including the manufacturers website. How accurate that is is debatable.
Chris thank you for this video - I bought this gun based upon your recommendation. You are absolutely right, it's very good. You are also right about the regulator it comes with being junk - my one sputtered and spat, until I changed it out. 10/10 spot on video and review thanks again!
Bro I got to tell you you've been KILLING it! Besides great content, your consistency makes this channel elite. Eventually all trade schools besides the diy rs will be playing these videos, keep it going brother 👍 👏 💪 💯
Have you looked at the supposed upgraded r500 marketed by aeropro on Amazon ? Comes with 1.3,1.5,1.7 tips under $70. Aeropro calls it r500/a610. Would be interested to see a review. Thanks for the relevant videos!
@@GarageNoise Aliexpress has 1.3 red version for $75 at the Rongpeng store. Do a search for r802 spray gun. But have to wait about 3 weeks from china. Vevor online store doesnt seem to have 1.3 in stock.
Just ordered one even tho I don't really need it😅 but seen some nice results. Cheap enuf to buy it on a whim. I do not believe the Chinese cfm claims for a sata knock-off. This is listed as hvlp from what i seen... No matter, i have 21 gallon or 60. Going to try it for clear coat on a Beetle if it arrives soon enuf👍
Yeah, I've come to the conclusion after using this gun foe awhile the low cfm claims are bogus. It does lay down a great clear tho for such a inexpensive gun. I suspect this gun is the exact same as the black widow. I know it's manufactured by a company called Rong peng .
Thanks for the videos. FYI, the link above for the R802 takes you to a Vevor gun, but R802 is not anywhere in the description and if you dig into the details it states the CFM is 16.
The Rongpeng website has the air consumption at 4.1 to 4.5, the box has the part number on it as the r802. It is definitely the R802. The box leaflet has the air consumption at 3.5 to 3.9 so there is a little discrepancy which is not unheard of whith these inexpensive guns. The air consumption is very low. You just have to judge for yourself I do alot of research in regards to the specs I would say the Rongpeng website would be the most accurate at around a 4 cfm air consumption. Appreciate the comment and support!
@@jdimeo1966 Your right about the link not being incorrect as it's for the 1.4 cap and needle set. I'm working on getting the correct link for the 1.3 and I do appreciate the comment because mistakes can be made for sure!
Hi Chris, hope you don't mind me commenting on your older videos if it is then just let me know brother it's no problem but I just wanted to say that this gun is a near copy of the Sata 100B that I got a few weeks back, it's marketed here as a high build primer and sealer gun in 1.4 and 1.8 I have both setups and it lays clearcoat very nice but not as good as my Sata X5500 RP 1.2🙏👍loving your videos, John UK
That Gun is a Sata 3000 copy, at least the body and threads look like a 3000, if I coulsee the air cap I could tell if its an RP or HVLP style tip. The Chinese are great at copying the design, but in my experience the needle will rust and the internal seals will not live long term. Great for doing at home type of painting but not a professional production tool. Which you are not misrepresenting at I read the title to the video. I love having cheaper options for my students and we will be watching this video for sure!!
Appreciate it brother! Durability of these inexpensive guns is always a concern. It does have a couple plastic gaskets that could be questionable. Appreciate the comment and support!
Thank u Chris idk how I miss this video great content I got mines this past Wednesday 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽hope u got to see that air dryer system I built on ur email God Bless for inspiring all of us 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I just started watching a couple videos , and was wondering what air compressor are you using, is it a larger one or is it a small one. Can you also do a video on using this and other lvlp guns with a small air compressor.
Chris on the low cost paint cup. What sizes ounce cups do your recommend for spot paint. Like you did in the video. And also what ounce size for painting a whole car ?
Looks awfully similar to the Black Widow except for a few small details and wouldn't be surprised if the Black Widow is a Rongpeng built gun. I believe Rongoeng will design/upgrade a gun with your logo as they have in the past. Either way, another great review. The gun sprays well, of course, with your expertise. It appears to have enough speed to do an overall if worked methodically. The locking collar is probably safer for beginners who are a bit clumsy in adjustments, though I prefer without as well. They definitely could do without the crappy cheater valve being included and might even cut the cost a tad.
It does look like the black widow. I always felt the black widow was a knock off of a sata gun. Never been a big fan of sata ,this one sprays well an produce a great finsh. Appreciate the comment and support brother!
If you don’t like the lock collar, simply back it all the way and it should not be an issue? Or simply take it off? 🤷🏻♂️ Anyway thanks for the good video! Good Job! Phillip Hall
They don't have a euro pro lvlp. I think you might be referring to the evot 13 which is pretty good for small compressors the air consumption is 13 cfm's at 19 psi which I believe means about 5cfms at 30 psi which would be good. I will be doing some videos on small compressors with these guns in the future. Appreciate the comment and support.
All of these guns are copies of the Nr92 SATA which, as the name suggests, was introduced to the market in 1992 and the adjustments are about the same. 2 1/2 turns is about right. The link you provided is for a 1.4 and 1.8 nozzle set. Not the 1.3 and 1.6 as you stated. SATA part numbers up until the model 3000, used the German designation of Nr (which in German means the Julian calendar year just like a $ sign means dollar in English). So the first HVLP gun was the Nr92 followed by the Nr95 and then the Nr2000. The Nr2000 is when SATA introduced the first RP version of their spray guns.
I will never buy another set of paint gun. Especially a 1.4 that works for 2K primer. A SATA with a 1.4 in the 4000 series is like a 1.7 primer gun....
@@67polara SATA has lied about their nozzle sizes for at least 30 years. Take a number drill index and actually measure what SATA calls a 1.4 nozzle. It measures more than 1.6mm when you do the SAE to metric conversion. SATA refers to their sizing as "relative size." which of course is total bullshit.
@@satamanschmidt3428 Yup. I'm a home DIY guy and I bought a 4000 RP 1.4 based on the recommendation of the clearcoat manufacturer I was using (SPI) and it was complet overkill....I should have bought a 1.2 now I'm an Iwata guy....
@@67polara Pros that do complete repaints love SATA because they're hoses. Speed matters a lot when you're trying to get around an entire car and still have the clearcoat open so that overspray doesn't ruin the finish. For smash repair and DIY guys they are too fast and will cause inexperienced painters problems. The 1.2 in a 5500RP is pretty sweet though I must admit.
I would start with 2.5 you want thin wet coats. if it seams too lite bump it up to 3 turns out. Play around with it, experiment find out what works for you. Experimenting with air pressure ,fluid volume, and spraying techniques and understanding how it effects your results will make you a better painter. Hope this helps appreciate the question and support!
@@GarageNoise thanks man for the advice I was doing it totally backwards I had the gun wide open watching other painters and there settings wasn't getting the finish I wanted was more orange peel and alot of material but understanding your method game changer getting flat finish
@@jeremiahtinsley8048 cool! Happy to help in fact you gave me a great video idea. Cause your right, everyone teaches fluid volume wide open and the rest of the gun settings but that is not the way to get glass like clear or the best way to develop the techniques to achieve the best looking finish. So stay tuned I'll make a video to give you a in depth step by step method to develop the skills for great clear. Not just telling you what to do but how to test and understand the process of doing it. Thank's for the inspiration!
@jeremiah tinsley one of the biggest blunders is following the usual wide open everything that other channels suggest. Gotta take into account that they're real shops using big air supplies and pro booths. Not that you're trying to emulate, but as Garage Noise points out, just about any gun can be tuned to spray how you need and most of the time a DIY in a garage is going to need to detune the gun for his situation. You can minimize overspray and maximize your technique at the cost of fan width, which is fine. I have several popular guns that can not be ran as reviewed, or else I'll be in a cloud of overspray. Get a spare panel then play with the pressure, fluid, and fan to achieve the result you need.
This one is hvlp as well. It's on vevors website. There's some discrepancy it the air consumption vevor website say 13cfms . The leflet they sent with the gun claims 3.5-3.9 cfm's. The company that manufactures this gun is Rongpeng the gun is on their website and is listed as 4.0 - 4.5 cfm's. At this point I am going to assume it is near the manufacturers specification but can't be for sure.
Here is the correct link for the same vevor gun kit in the video. 1.3 and 1.7 needle and cap set and adapter. Appreciate the support!
amzn.to/3xp3qm6
this also links to the HVLP gun. ie 13cfm. is that correct?
@@zappa916 This is sold as an hvlp but the air consumption is 3.5 -3.9 cmf. I checked in several different places including the manufacturers website. How accurate that is is debatable.
Chris thank you for this video - I bought this gun based upon your recommendation. You are absolutely right, it's very good. You are also right about the regulator it comes with being junk - my one sputtered and spat, until I changed it out. 10/10 spot on video and review thanks again!
Another great video... I plan to buy a small compressor and all the equipment to paint this summer.
Awesome! Appreciate the comment and support!
I have that gun...nice fan...works great at 22psi
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@@GarageNoisewhat pressure did you end up spraying with for base and clear? Also how much on fluid knob?
Looks like a very nice job to me I am going get me one thanks
Bro I got to tell you you've been KILLING it! Besides great content, your consistency makes this channel elite. Eventually all trade schools besides the diy rs will be playing these videos, keep it going brother 👍 👏 💪 💯
Thank's brother! Appreciate the kind words. I work hard to make the next video better than the last. Sometimes it works out .🤣🤣 not always.
Fantastic content. Useful and revelant. Keep it up !
I appreciate the comment and support!
Have you looked at the supposed upgraded r500 marketed by aeropro on Amazon ? Comes with 1.3,1.5,1.7 tips under $70. Aeropro calls it r500/a610. Would be interested to see a review. Thanks for the relevant videos!
I just checked it out. It's a different color not sure if it's a updated r500 or not have to do a little more research. I am looking at the R 700.
@@GarageNoise Aliexpress has 1.3 red version for $75 at the Rongpeng store. Do a search for r802 spray gun. But have to wait about 3 weeks from china. Vevor online store doesnt seem to have 1.3 in stock.
@@bensturma6631 I'm working with them now to get the Amazon link to the 1.3 version of the r802
Just ordered one even tho I don't really need it😅 but seen some nice results. Cheap enuf to buy it on a whim.
I do not believe the Chinese cfm claims for a sata knock-off. This is listed as hvlp from what i seen...
No matter, i have 21 gallon or 60. Going to try it for clear coat on a Beetle if it arrives soon enuf👍
Yeah, I've come to the conclusion after using this gun foe awhile the low cfm claims are bogus. It does lay down a great clear tho for such a inexpensive gun. I suspect this gun is the exact same as the black widow. I know it's manufactured by a company called Rong peng .
Another great video!
Thank's Forrest! I appreciate the comment and support brother!
Thanks for the videos. FYI, the link above for the R802 takes you to a Vevor gun, but R802 is not anywhere in the description and if you dig into the details it states the CFM is 16.
The Rongpeng website has the air consumption at 4.1 to 4.5, the box has the part number on it as the r802. It is definitely the R802. The box leaflet has the air consumption at 3.5 to 3.9 so there is a little discrepancy which is not unheard of whith these inexpensive guns. The air consumption is very low. You just have to judge for yourself I do alot of research in regards to the specs I would say the Rongpeng website would be the most accurate at around a 4 cfm air consumption. Appreciate the comment and support!
@@GarageNoise Cool. Just wanted to make sure viewers were getting the correct link. Thanks for straightening me out. 🙂
@@jdimeo1966 Your right about the link not being incorrect as it's for the 1.4 cap and needle set. I'm working on getting the correct link for the 1.3 and I do appreciate the comment because mistakes can be made for sure!
Hi Chris, hope you don't mind me commenting on your older videos if it is then just let me know brother it's no problem but I just wanted to say that this gun is a near copy of the Sata 100B that I got a few weeks back, it's marketed here as a high build primer and sealer gun in 1.4 and 1.8 I have both setups and it lays clearcoat very nice but not as good as my Sata X5500 RP 1.2🙏👍loving your videos, John UK
Comment away! Appreciate all the support.
That Gun is a Sata 3000 copy, at least the body and threads look like a 3000, if I coulsee the air cap I could tell if its an RP or HVLP style tip. The Chinese are great at copying the design, but in my experience the needle will rust and the internal seals will not live long term. Great for doing at home type of painting but not a professional production tool. Which you are not misrepresenting at I read the title to the video. I love having cheaper options for my students and we will be watching this video for sure!!
Appreciate it brother! Durability of these inexpensive guns is always a concern. It does have a couple plastic gaskets that could be questionable. Appreciate the comment and support!
I think the Kota gun is SATA 3000 knock off too. I use the Kota and I like it. I have a 1.3 and a 1.7. The Kota is twice the price of the Vevor gun.
Naa these vevor guns are the real deal, I use it in production no problems, seals are tight no rust.
Thank u Chris idk how I miss this video great content I got mines this past Wednesday 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽hope u got to see that air dryer system I built on ur email God Bless for inspiring all of us 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I'll have to check that air dryer system out. I'll email you.
Thanks for a nother great video with good information 👍
Thank's Bud!
I just started watching a couple videos , and was wondering what air compressor are you using, is it a larger one or is it a small one. Can you also do a video on using this and other lvlp guns with a small air compressor.
Awesome! Welcome! I do use a larger compressor. I'm working on doing some videos with a small compressor. Appreciate the comment and support!
It’s a slow gun with great results ❤
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Have you tried the Vevor model of the R500? Their package on Amazon looks really nice for the price including the cup adapter.
I haven't, it's the same gun so I don't think you can go wrong. If it has the pps adapter that's great.
Chris on the low cost paint cup. What sizes ounce cups do your recommend for spot paint. Like you did in the video. And also what ounce size for painting a whole car ?
This is what I use
amzn.to/3YqH0ME
20 oz
Can i use a 21 gallon air compressor with this gun ?
Looks awfully similar to the Black Widow except for a few small details and wouldn't be surprised if the Black Widow is a Rongpeng built gun. I believe Rongoeng will design/upgrade a gun with your logo as they have in the past.
Either way, another great review. The gun sprays well, of course, with your expertise. It appears to have enough speed to do an overall if worked methodically. The locking collar is probably safer for beginners who are a bit clumsy in adjustments, though I prefer without as well. They definitely could do without the crappy cheater valve being included and might even cut the cost a tad.
It does look like the black widow. I always felt the black widow was a knock off of a sata gun. Never been a big fan of sata ,this one sprays well an produce a great finsh. Appreciate the comment and support brother!
If you don’t like the lock collar, simply back it all the way and it should not be an issue? Or simply take it off? 🤷🏻♂️
Anyway thanks for the good video! Good Job!
Phillip Hall
Yes , there's a work around. Appreciate the support!
@@GarageNoise
I wasn’t sure I was just making a guess. Thanks for your answer.
Phillip Hall
This or the d1?
Personally, I like the D1 better, but this gun actually sprays really well. It does consume more air though
@@GarageNoise thank you for the reply
On the review of the R802 you had problems with the pictures and sound cutting out. Maybe another day? Please
I didn't see any on my end. I don't know. Appreciate the comment and support!
R500 vs this gun..which spray flatter clearcoat on low cfm
Right now I perfer the r500. The R500 is is a little more user friendly and produces less overspray.
@@GarageNoise try the mp400 spray gun..cheap but with 6cfm it shoots goood
i only have a 21 gallon compressor i wanna spray my mustang whats the key to not getting orange peel ,second sprayer and should i get this gun
Not this gun, the R500 will be better suited for your needs.
@@GarageNoise thank u...im tryin to find a bigger compressor
I have 28 litre compressor can they work ok with these too want to stsrt spraying alloys wheels in my shed ?
How many liters per minute of air does it produce? In u.s it's cfm's
It needs to produce about 169 liters/m
Can the euro pro lvlp also work with a small compressor??
They don't have a euro pro lvlp. I think you might be referring to the evot 13 which is pretty good for small compressors the air consumption is 13 cfm's at 19 psi which I believe means about 5cfms at 30 psi which would be good. I will be doing some videos on small compressors with these guns in the future. Appreciate the comment and support.
Thanks for the info looking forward on your videos on these lvlp guns
Vevor gun or R500?
Vevor
More like 11cfm to get nice finish
All of these guns are copies of the Nr92 SATA which, as the name suggests, was introduced to the market in 1992 and the adjustments are about the same. 2 1/2 turns is about right. The link you provided is for a 1.4 and 1.8 nozzle set. Not the 1.3 and 1.6 as you stated. SATA part numbers up until the model 3000, used the German designation of Nr (which in German means the Julian calendar year just like a $ sign means dollar in English). So the first HVLP gun was the Nr92 followed by the Nr95 and then the Nr2000. The Nr2000 is when SATA introduced the first RP version of their spray guns.
Yes, this is the wrong link . To get the 1.3 and 1.7 visit the website .I'm working on getting the correct link. Thanks brother!
I will never buy another set of paint gun. Especially a 1.4 that works for 2K primer. A SATA with a 1.4 in the 4000 series is like a 1.7 primer gun....
@@67polara SATA has lied about their nozzle sizes for at least 30 years. Take a number drill index and actually measure what SATA calls a 1.4 nozzle. It measures more than 1.6mm when you do the SAE to metric conversion. SATA refers to their sizing as "relative size." which of course is total bullshit.
@@satamanschmidt3428 Yup. I'm a home DIY guy and I bought a 4000 RP 1.4 based on the recommendation of the clearcoat manufacturer I was using (SPI) and it was complet overkill....I should have bought a 1.2 now I'm an Iwata guy....
@@67polara Pros that do complete repaints love SATA because they're hoses. Speed matters a lot when you're trying to get around an entire car and still have the clearcoat open so that overspray doesn't ruin the finish. For smash repair and DIY guys they are too fast and will cause inexperienced painters problems. The 1.2 in a 5500RP is pretty sweet though I must admit.
What would you recommend on a hte paint gun on the fluid 2 or 3 turns out
I would start with 2.5 you want thin wet coats. if it seams too lite bump it up to 3 turns out. Play around with it, experiment find out what works for you. Experimenting with air pressure ,fluid volume, and spraying techniques and understanding how it effects your results will make you a better painter. Hope this helps appreciate the question and support!
@@GarageNoise thanks man for the advice I was doing it totally backwards I had the gun wide open watching other painters and there settings wasn't getting the finish I wanted was more orange peel and alot of material but understanding your method game changer getting flat finish
@@jeremiahtinsley8048 cool! Happy to help in fact you gave me a great video idea. Cause your right, everyone teaches fluid volume wide open and the rest of the gun settings but that is not the way to get glass like clear or the best way to develop the techniques to achieve the best looking finish. So stay tuned I'll make a video to give you a in depth step by step method to develop the skills for great clear. Not just telling you what to do but how to test and understand the process of doing it. Thank's for the inspiration!
@@GarageNoise yes please do because I have a couple of guns that was my problem trying to get a glass like finish but wasn't understanding how to
@jeremiah tinsley one of the biggest blunders is following the usual wide open everything that other channels suggest. Gotta take into account that they're real shops using big air supplies and pro booths. Not that you're trying to emulate, but as Garage Noise points out, just about any gun can be tuned to spray how you need and most of the time a DIY in a garage is going to need to detune the gun for his situation. You can minimize overspray and maximize your technique at the cost of fan width, which is fine. I have several popular guns that can not be ran as reviewed, or else I'll be in a cloud of overspray. Get a spare panel then play with the pressure, fluid, and fan to achieve the result you need.
Kinda confused. I dont see this gun anywhere on their site and it's only on Amazon. The one on amazon says hvlp and drinks air.
This one is hvlp as well. It's on vevors website. There's some discrepancy it the air consumption vevor website say 13cfms . The leflet they sent with the gun claims 3.5-3.9 cfm's. The company that manufactures this gun is Rongpeng the gun is on their website and is listed as 4.0 - 4.5 cfm's. At this point I am going to assume it is near the manufacturers specification but can't be for sure.
well ... leave it to ... Vevor
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What’s a good compressor for this gun
Anyone that produces over 6 cfm's
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Have trouble hearing name of gun?
Vevor R802
would this work with 100 psi air compressor?
The important thing is how many cfm's the compressor produces.
Annoyingly you can't get this gun in the UK , even the vevor website don't sell this model , bummer !
Wow! Even from Amazon?
rong ping makn money😂😂
Vevor gun or R500?
Vevor R802
What size air compressor to use at home for the r802 ?