Im new to painting but from what ive learned... small compressors create more moisture due to the constant running. It generates heat and the cooling factor of uncompressing the air creates moisture... its just a constant cycle of that
Yes I just went a little to heavy on second coat and it was also evening, colder temperatures didn't dry up as fast. Some user error and some is just organic from low air pressure
All of the cars that I do I do for competitions that require original finishes (museum restoration is what they call it around here). I use acrylic lacquer and cut and buff it. The nice thing about acrylic lacquer is that you can stop in the middle of doing, say a hood, and pick up and finish it the next day. Most of the cars that I do, I do one panel at a time. Hood one day, fender, the next, door the next, etc. I use a six-gallon pancake compressor and an LVLP gun. A friend of mine has a huge industrial Ingersol Rand compressor that produces 150 CFM. He can paint a 747 jet non-stop if he wanted to!
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 I wasn't going to mention acrylic lacquer, because these days, to most painters, the word acrylic lacquer is practically a swear word! I wrote to you earlier about the clear coat because I was going to give base/clear a try, but I chickened out and did the car in acrylic lacquer that didn't even need it. But I'm an old coot, just stuck in my ways learned 40 years ago :/
@@torydz I still spray acrylic laquer products even today . The new school nerds don't know the benefits . The extremely fast dry without fancy curing equipment is what sells me on it
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 True. I do all my spraying outdoors. My one project was a 74 Nova. I did five coats on it, and with a yearly polish, it still looked great ten years later. Not AS great, but great enough :)
Good tech talk...after looking at larger gal compressors, it's really about CFMs and what gun you're using. As always Marco, thanks for keeping it real for the DIY'rs!! 🍻
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 I have a 6gal Metabo HPT The Tank air compressor which has 4.0CFM at 90psi. How well would this work in your opinion? Also how big of an improvement would it be to connect a 10 gallon reserve tank?
Marko, I want to give you Kudos for being about the only TH-camr who paints cars with Black! ! ! Everyone painter I know hates Black cuz it shows off all of their Crappy work thru the paint! But the Black cars you've shown, up close And pointing out the issues you had and how to fix them is doing us Garage Boys a Big Solid :) Thanks!
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 Question, For the big body Crown Vicks and Grand Marques using Speedokot single stage Jet Black and or dark Brown whats the compressor size I need at a minmum?? Would a 40 gall. work?? I see guys using lvlp painting but I feel that I need to stick with Ole School painting
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937I have a 6gal Metabo HPT The Tank air compressor which has 4.0CFM at 90psi. How well would this work in your opinion? Also how big of an improvement would it be to connect a 10 gallon reserve tank?
Black is the easiest color to paint😅😂 try some silver, needs perfect uniform the paint layer, will make darker "shadows" if the layer is to tick in some places. Or candy paint...I also had some issues with super light pearl blue...hard to see the layers due to almost transparent paint...
I think you would really like a portable turbine HVLP paint sprayer system for your mobile business. I love my Fuji Spray turbine setup.There's minimal overspray, always puts out dry air and lays down a beautiful finish.
Only thing I wouldnt like is the cleaning (takes more time) , and the "what if" It goes bad. If one of my spray guns goes bad I grab another one I keep 3-4 on my rig at any moment. Those turbines are 400-600 a pop. Not keeping 3-4 of those 🤣
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 I ordered the s18 pps 2 adaptor and a 3m pressure cup. I will be using the pps 2 22 ounce refills. You pop off the black ring, drop the liner in your pressure cup, put lid/cap on. Hook up the little plastic line...good to go. Not much different than compressor gun clean up.
No water issues with a turbine for mobile or these kinda jobs. Just unlimited dry air. Hey, you could always brand your own turbine gun, right?? Harbor Freight had the Avanti
I had these issue starting out too with a small compressor . I got a 2 water thingys (one in front and one at gun) and I learned how to spray 2 stage with a 8 gallon with a high cfm rating. BUT single stage is still impossible for me. I just did a short explaining it
@@TheRealWormsGarage thanks I was also looking at that one but it says it has a cfm of 3ish? Also what are the water things might go with your same set up?
I have a husky compressor 8 gallon 150 psi at 3.7cfm. I keep it at 80 psi with limiter so dont go over and then i tune the huksy spray paint guns to 40 or 50 psi legit even when spraying wont go lower. When not spraying goes up to like 65-70 psi. I always try to be mad patiently 😅 but mad this video gives me more motivation to keep going 💯💪🔥🔥🔥 as for moisture in the air would you recomend 2 air filters to be safe? One by compressor and one on spray gun?
Question for you buddy: were you using a HVLP or LVLP spray gun when using this compressor? I'm considering the buying the same one! Maybe even the larger white one!
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 have you considered ,for your mobile unit only, using LVLP guns? I did and it was a game changer! My older oil filled compressor is now contaminating the air so I need to up grade! Looks like the vevor is my next purchase!
HVLP guns are typically rated for 14 CFM at the gun (important as there are loses from tank to gun) and above, that’s the High Volume part of HVLP. With a smaller compressor you absolutely need to match the gun CFM requirement to the compressor output, at the gun. Try an LVLP gun, they’re not expensive, I’d be fascinated to see if your finish is better. Try high flow connectors and a higher I.D. Line too. Also, keep your water/oil separator some distance from the compressor and if possible after a u-bend in the line. This acts like a water trap and allows time for the air to cool and lose moisture before arriving at the gun. 🤞
This reminds me that next time I'm just going to run to HF to get a cheap tool to check Vevor first. Seems like they have slightly better prices for similar or better tools. Lets go buy (tools)! #LGB
Mark I have a question for ya perhaps you would care to address or perhaps you already have and I have missed it I have painted several cars unprofessional but with decent results but am currently working on my pride and joy a Chevelle a large car by todays standard so my question is how much paint ? Before paint actually came in 1 gallon container so plus thinners and etc. you got maybe gal. and a qt. with products today you only end up with a gal. see my dilemma? Also money is a factor it deserves a great paint job I have owned it 42 yrs now I'm almost there thanks.
I would like to know if you used a pressure regulator on yr spray gun and a filter for the water. I use a 27 gallon one and was total use less kept losing air quickly. How can a 6 gallon do that
Epoxy primer isant super compatible with regular metal work/ body work. Your actually better off doing a etch type primer (acid etch) sprays super smooth and lays flat. Can paint right over it without sanding .
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 really I want to paint my truck just hood cause sun damage so 6 and up will work . And how come u don’t use the sanding tools that use air
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 thank you for answering my questions I’m new to this I want to learn iv been painting furniture and sanding for awhile and I love it I want to move on to auto
Get a air dryer i payed 1k for my speedaire 10 cfm night and day diffrence my compressors rated 11.5 cfm at 90 psi diffrence i run cooper coil into water from the crank case and into the .dryer .i still purge my system a couple times a day have a devbiss qc3 i get a lil bit still get water non stop use but its never in my air .always dry tools get cold a bit but not like dry ice i need gloves when i bought my 60 gallon there setup like junk and make alot of humity and heat my tanks never cold or hot .works good fill it full the purge the tank and devbiss my dryer has an auto purge on drains when i purge the system saves your crank case a couple hundred degrees i run milton hiflow ends big diffrence .
Man I just finished a video on the same thing 🤣🤣 so just a heads up I didn't copy cat 😺 good stuff as usual bro, Wait until you see my Mickey Mouse set up 😭😭
True 👊🏼 I had a fail so big I started to trash the vid but took to long to make, Lexus looks wet tho 💪🏼 mine is a black Mercedes looks like a black nestlé crunch bar 😭
@@thetriggerman954 😂😂😂 nice. Yes man even the bad videos where you screw up just post anyways. I learned that transparency builds the strongest fan base.
It's private sale bud. I sell these exclusively to my subscribers only. So you can email for order. Email is for orders only so please be 100% ready to order when you do so thanks.
He's got solid advice on stuff. He just has a different setting with the work he does. We also do a lot of "quick scratch&spray" Jobs. This is not something a 3-5 million dollar body shop will do.
Great job and explanation. When I decide to paint my 51 Hudson I will be using a 21 gal compressor, working up the nerve to do it. Thanks once again.
Nice!
Im new to painting but from what ive learned... small compressors create more moisture due to the constant running. It generates heat and the cooling factor of uncompressing the air creates moisture... its just a constant cycle of that
True
Honest dude showing the runs! SMR is a great finish.
Yes I just went a little to heavy on second coat and it was also evening, colder temperatures didn't dry up as fast. Some user error and some is just organic from low air pressure
All of the cars that I do I do for competitions that require original finishes (museum restoration is what they call it around here). I use acrylic lacquer and cut and buff it. The nice thing about acrylic lacquer is that you can stop in the middle of doing, say a hood, and pick up and finish it the next day. Most of the cars that I do, I do one panel at a time. Hood one day, fender, the next, door the next, etc. I use a six-gallon pancake compressor and an LVLP gun. A friend of mine has a huge industrial Ingersol Rand compressor that produces 150 CFM. He can paint a 747 jet non-stop if he wanted to!
@@torydz wow this is super interesting! Thanks for the share !
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 I wasn't going to mention acrylic lacquer, because these days, to most painters, the word acrylic lacquer is practically a swear word! I wrote to you earlier about the clear coat because I was going to give base/clear a try, but I chickened out and did the car in acrylic lacquer that didn't even need it. But I'm an old coot, just stuck in my ways learned 40 years ago :/
@@torydz I still spray acrylic laquer products even today .
The new school nerds don't know the benefits .
The extremely fast dry without fancy curing equipment is what sells me on it
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 True. I do all my spraying outdoors. My one project was a 74 Nova. I did five coats on it, and with a yearly polish, it still looked great ten years later. Not AS great, but great enough :)
@@torydz that's the advantage of our clears .
You really only have to polish them every 5-10 years .
And they will never really dull out
nice paint job came out great would love a vid on how to fix the runs on that fender
We will try to post that!
I purchased the 15.8 gallon compressor because of you.thanks
Sweet!
Good tech talk...after looking at larger gal compressors, it's really about CFMs and what gun you're using. As always Marco, thanks for keeping it real for the DIY'rs!! 🍻
Absolutely thanks!
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 I have a 6gal Metabo HPT The Tank air compressor which has 4.0CFM at 90psi. How well would this work in your opinion? Also how big of an improvement would it be to connect a 10 gallon reserve tank?
@@GrabLifeByDaPoosy these little 6-10 gallon compressors are only good for spot work / PANLE work very small jobs
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 So if I needed to paint a vehicle. Do you think it could handle 1 quarter panel at a time?
Marko, I want to give you Kudos for being about the only TH-camr who paints cars with Black! ! ! Everyone painter I know hates Black cuz it shows off all of their Crappy work thru the paint!
But the Black cars you've shown, up close And pointing out the issues you had and how to fix them is doing us Garage Boys a Big Solid :) Thanks!
Hey I try man!
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 Question, For the big body Crown Vicks and Grand Marques using Speedokot single stage Jet Black and or dark Brown whats the compressor size I need at a minmum?? Would a 40 gall. work?? I see guys using lvlp painting but I feel that I need to stick with Ole School painting
@@danielmcqueen1024 40 might do it
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937I have a 6gal Metabo HPT The Tank air compressor which has 4.0CFM at 90psi. How well would this work in your opinion? Also how big of an improvement would it be to connect a 10 gallon reserve tank?
Black is the easiest color to paint😅😂 try some silver, needs perfect uniform the paint layer, will make darker "shadows" if the layer is to tick in some places. Or candy paint...I also had some issues with super light pearl blue...hard to see the layers due to almost transparent paint...
Once again you gave me the confidence to try this myself. Thank you.
Absolutely !
I think you would really like a portable turbine HVLP paint sprayer system for your mobile business.
I love my Fuji Spray turbine setup.There's minimal overspray, always puts out dry air and lays down a beautiful finish.
Only thing I wouldnt like is the cleaning (takes more time) , and the "what if" It goes bad. If one of my spray guns goes bad I grab another one I keep 3-4 on my rig at any moment. Those turbines are 400-600 a pop. Not keeping 3-4 of those 🤣
Ive been using a turbine for years now...love it Apollo
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 True they are pricey.
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 I ordered the s18 pps 2 adaptor and a 3m pressure cup. I will be using the pps 2 22 ounce refills. You pop off the black ring, drop the liner in your pressure cup, put lid/cap on. Hook up the little plastic line...good to go. Not much different than compressor gun clean up.
@@BearBudgetTurbine ok nice!!
wow that clear coat is such a huge difference great video
Absolutely!
Smr42 is the best value on the market for the money
No water issues with a turbine for mobile or these kinda jobs. Just unlimited dry air. Hey, you could always brand your own turbine gun, right?? Harbor Freight had the Avanti
True!!!!!!!
We appreciate you sharing your knowledge with all of us thank you 🙏
Absolutely
I had these issue starting out too with a small compressor . I got a 2 water thingys (one in front and one at gun) and I learned how to spray 2 stage with a 8 gallon with a high cfm rating. BUT single stage is still impossible for me. I just did a short explaining it
I'll try this!
Which compressor did you buy? Wanna do it at home but unsure which one to buy
@@chrisguzman7926 i got a husky 8 gallon. I would plug it straight to wall to keep voltage up.
@@TheRealWormsGarage thanks I was also looking at that one but it says it has a cfm of 3ish? Also what are the water things might go with your same set up?
@@chrisguzman7926 I got the vevor 6.3 gallon it's 3.3 cfm.
I spray with my mark1 eco spray gun that i sell
Great stuff! I hoping you get the chance to do and record a Matte black paint job. I have a 70 Plymouth that I want to paint. For learning purposes. 😂
Speedokote sells hot rod black
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 Yes, sir! I would love to see you lay some down!
That's pretty impressive for such a small compressor
Yes!
So u painted all the car with small compressor
Great video can i use a 50 litre air compressor with 3.7 CFM?
@@thandiweshamase2129 it would be hard but possible
I have a husky compressor 8 gallon 150 psi at 3.7cfm. I keep it at 80 psi with limiter so dont go over and then i tune the huksy spray paint guns to 40 or 50 psi legit even when spraying wont go lower. When not spraying goes up to like 65-70 psi. I always try to be mad patiently 😅 but mad this video gives me more motivation to keep going 💯💪🔥🔥🔥 as for moisture in the air would you recomend 2 air filters to be safe? One by compressor and one on spray gun?
Definitely at least one nice dessicant filter
Still looks amazing
Yes I'm definitely mostly happy with it
Looks great
Thanks!
Let's goooooooo. Midweek uploads!!
Thanks!
Question for you buddy: were you using a HVLP or LVLP spray gun when using this compressor? I'm considering the buying the same one! Maybe even the larger white one!
Hvlp. I'm using my brand of guns
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 have you considered ,for your mobile unit only, using LVLP guns? I did and it was a game changer! My older oil filled compressor is now contaminating the air so I need to up grade! Looks like the vevor is my next purchase!
@@robertcrew2209 I'm guna try!
HVLP guns are typically rated for 14 CFM at the gun (important as there are loses from tank to gun) and above, that’s the High Volume part of HVLP. With a smaller compressor you absolutely need to match the gun CFM requirement to the compressor output, at the gun. Try an LVLP gun, they’re not expensive, I’d be fascinated to see if your finish is better. Try high flow connectors and a higher I.D. Line too. Also, keep your water/oil separator some distance from the compressor and if possible after a u-bend in the line. This acts like a water trap and allows time for the air to cool and lose moisture before arriving at the gun. 🤞
This reminds me that next time I'm just going to run to HF to get a cheap tool to check Vevor first. Seems like they have slightly better prices for similar or better tools. Lets go buy (tools)! #LGB
LOL WHOLE NEW MEANING TO LGB 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yea vevor quality is better than hf IMO
Mark I have a question for ya perhaps you would care to address or perhaps you already have and I have missed it I have painted several cars unprofessional but with decent results but am currently working on my pride and joy a Chevelle a large car by todays standard so my question is how much paint ? Before paint actually came in 1 gallon container so plus thinners and etc. you got maybe gal. and a qt. with products today you only end up with a gal. see my dilemma? Also money is a factor it deserves a great paint job I have owned it 42 yrs now I'm almost there thanks.
Personally always make sure I have 1 galllon of base and one gallon of clear IMO. Smr42 is the best clear on the market
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 thanks Mark base coat clear coat was my next question lol awesome
Im ordering the smr 1150 tomorrow cant wait to spray it
Sweet!
I would like to know if you used a pressure regulator on yr spray gun and a filter for the water. I use a 27 gallon one and was total use less kept losing air quickly. How can a 6 gallon do that
You need to set the compressor at about 15 to 20 psi more than the gun regulator to keep pressure from dropping too much at gun.
How did you paint that without masking the headlights??? What kind of gun did you use? HVLP or LVLP?
@@ginfizz20 we did mask lights for basecoat stage . Then peeled tape and paper for clear coat stage to clear coat everything in one shot
Did u not tape off the lights because u refinished them and wanted to put the clear on them?
Correct
I heard you can’t spray thicker epoxy primer with low pressure guns?
Epoxy primer isant super compatible with regular metal work/ body work.
Your actually better off doing a etch type primer (acid etch) sprays super smooth and lays flat. Can paint right over it without sanding .
So the question is can I use a vevor to do a ford ranger would love to see u paint asmall pick up with it
Yes very possible
What psi did you have when shooting?
Very low had no gauge so no idea 😂
Can you paint a bumper cover with a 3 gallon tank?
It's possible
Hye speedooooooooooo❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ send 1 them cars to Jamaica
Lol you funny
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 I cant say I didnt try
I've often wondered if my Kobalt 26 gallon compressor would be enough
Yea if you can start and stop a few times
Use a R500 spray gun
I have my own line of guns I use
What was the specification of the compressor you used?
Vevor 6.6 gallon
How many gal is smallest that u good use for sanding and painting
For painting 6 gallon is really the bottom for me. Sanding I only use electric
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 really I want to paint my truck just hood cause sun damage so 6 and up will work . And how come u don’t use the sanding tools that use air
@@jameselloko6365 for just a hood 6 gallon will work
@@jameselloko6365 air tools are hard to maintain and break more than electric Sanders
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 thank you for answering my questions I’m new to this I want to learn iv been painting furniture and sanding for awhile and I love it I want to move on to auto
Get a air dryer i payed 1k for my speedaire 10 cfm night and day diffrence my compressors rated 11.5 cfm at 90 psi diffrence i run cooper coil into water from the crank case and into the .dryer .i still purge my system a couple times a day have a devbiss qc3 i get a lil bit still get water non stop use but its never in my air .always dry tools get cold a bit but not like dry ice i need gloves when i bought my 60 gallon there setup like junk and make alot of humity and heat my tanks never cold or hot .works good fill it full the purge the tank and devbiss my dryer has an auto purge on drains when i purge the system saves your crank case a couple hundred degrees i run milton hiflow ends big diffrence .
That's what I need
I am painting my car with a small compressor and speedokotes single stage. Is the slow reducer a must?
Yes
Slow reducer and slow activator. Fallow directions on can
How about diy Turbine compressor simular to fuji spray system 🤔
It would work
What is covering the headlights?
Masked them up for base , then removed them and clear coated everything
What is the spray gun you used on this video?
My brand
You forgot to mask the headlights?
Do you mask headlights when trying to clear coat them for a headlight restoration? Is that how you do it? 😎
Where are you located I would love to get my car painted
Pa
What about using a LVLP gun?
Doesn't put out enough paint for me
Man I just finished a video on the same thing 🤣🤣 so just a heads up I didn't copy cat 😺 good stuff as usual bro, Wait until you see my Mickey Mouse set up 😭😭
Your good bro we all trying to do the same thing at the end of the day! 🙂
True 👊🏼 I had a fail so big I started to trash the vid but took to long to make, Lexus looks wet tho 💪🏼 mine is a black Mercedes looks like a black nestlé crunch bar 😭
@@thetriggerman954 😂😂😂 nice. Yes man even the bad videos where you screw up just post anyways. I learned that transparency builds the strongest fan base.
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 🙌🏼 bet that up big swole 👊🏼 2nd week back on legs. Imma catch you sooner or later 😀😀
please amazon link.
Hey man you can actually go straight to www.speedokote.com and get faster shipping.
Smr42 is the product.
Select me as your sales rep (Marco)
@@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 I found it.
Could I have link of your spray gun of this video?
Cheers.
To be fair, you could probably do a better job than me with a straw and lung power compared to me and good equipment!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 don't flatter me to much 🤣
What gun are you using
My brand. Mark1
Sir am car painter work Saudia Arabia my 8 years experins
Nice!
Link to buy that gun??
It's private sale bud. I sell these exclusively to my subscribers only. So you can email for order. Email is for orders only so please be 100% ready to order when you do so thanks.
This is EXACTLY why paint society channel SUCKS THE RAG. And why SRN rocks!!😮 Not sorry😮
He's got solid advice on stuff. He just has a different setting with the work he does. We also do a lot of "quick scratch&spray" Jobs. This is not something a 3-5 million dollar body shop will do.
Marco is the shit! I love watching his videos. I agree with you diamond