Do you bother with bug removal before pre wash?, Does your snowfoam do the work for you?, Do you use APC or a dedicated cleaner? Tell me what products you use to deal with bug splatter in the comments ✍🏻
Me personally i “developed” two types of washing routines for my car: 1) regular full wash - cover the car completely in SX HD 5% solution and any foam over it - this takes care of bugs, bird poo, mud. Pressure rinse. Then shampoo and detailer and so on. 2) quick rinseless wash with ONR - when the car is just dusty. Naturally ONR is not powerful enough to remove things that are stuck to the surface, so in this case I do use the dedicated product. But honestly never had really great result with these. But since the goal of a quick wash is not perfection (for me), i settled with merely improving on what it would be without using the product at all. Thanks for the test!
@@otomoravec1732 sounds as though you’ve found a pretty good system though for me personally I never got into the whole ONR way of things , I’m def going to try surfex at 5% come winter with a ph neutral showfoam over it for a dwell, thanks for watching 👍
@@GMDetails weeeell ONR is an interesting product, yet i am not crazy about it. It is my first bottle, i just wanted to try it out since many people swear by it. I use it as a light duty apc basically. But something about the way it behaves in water is simply… different.
@@otomoravec1732 I have used around half a bottle , I find doing an interior wipe down its brilliant adding a cap of water to the bucket means the damp plastics dry without any water marks but I feel the wash routine is better for a warmer climate without much stuck on debris as you said earlier , but the rag Co claim it’ll remove traffic film as a pre wash and this is simply untrue, here in the uk anyway so it’s left me feeling less than enthusiastic about it
@@GMDetails i would say there is no clear definition on what the so called traffic film actually is. There is incredible variation in types and levels of contamination based on where we live and drive, so everyone’s understanding and results vary. I drive a lot in the country and with this dry weather, most of the time the car is covered in a thin uniform layer of light brown dust - basically soil particles picked up by wind from the fields. Quite loose, not really sticky or greasy, so the ONR takes care of that without hassle.
Surprising results, I'm sure I won't be the only one in a bit of shock!! But the results are the results!! Like you said, this isn't a lab test, this is you applying these products to your own bug-splattered car and showing the results! Cost wise it'd hard to justify the dedicated product for a lot of budgets but obviously a lot of people don't look at it that way! Well edited as always 😉👍🏼
🤫🤫 ffs that was gonna be a secret 🤣 It’s the whole cost v convenience again isn’t it , £7 for a litre vs £9 or £18, some would go straight for the £7 not knowing it would run out faster 🤣
Surfex HD is the miracle product of all miracle products! I have literally used it for so many things it's ridiculous. From cleaning the car, cleaning up spot staining on carpets, cleaning my cooker, cleaning my UPVC door and window frames and even cleaning down my decking, I've yet to find something this stuff can't actually do! Haven't tried brushing my teeth with it yet, to be fair! 🤣
Great video as always ,recently done a 1440 mile road trip from Scotland to the south east of England ,car absolutely plastered in bugs used HDD Road Rage at 10 to 1 and it done a great job .
Did pretty much exactly same test you did and Surfex proved out the overall best for me. Living in the countryside I use a good bit more than your suggested 50ml per car so cost was a consideration. I also tested using garden hose for the reason you outlined but found same results with pressure washer. Interesting your comment on GT Decon and the newly applied Alpha wax as GT state Decon will strip old waxes so was not expecting it to have such an effect on its own brand wax. Enjoyed the way you set this test up, very fair and practical. On a side note, I tried to use Spritzer to mimic Bug Off but get the cost down, ended up with similar results so may be an option for folks.
I think the test was as fait as I could have been and thanks for confirming you had similar results as has another viewer so it’s certainly thanks to everyone commenting that reassures the facts so thank you mate 👌 Great news Spritzer has similar results 👍
Interesting video Graeme, I done a similar test a while ago on an un-waxed car minus the surfex and found the products I tried to be very similar in cleaning. You have demonstrated how different results can be on a waxed car which is great as it shows some different things that you need to consider if your car is protected.
Exactly mate. Due to testing different things I actually rarely have a good coating of protection on my car so a good strong cleaner is never usually a problem but different story on a waxed car 🤔
I did this comparison last week between zero and bug off, I had similar results. The only other pro with bug off is it doesn't dry out nearly as fast as zero so given a proper dwell time I find it always works better.
Thanks Dean!, it’s great to get another opinion, and yes dwell time being the gel like spray of bug off is brilliant , I do really like it , and even at £7 a litre the now it’s a very good product for the money
What a great test. Another detailing product some of us question whether it's just a gimmick?? I guess it both is and isn't. For me iv never felt I needed one. A good prewash and snow foam has done the job. Interesting though just how good Bug off is yet safe on lsp. Surfex bores the hell out of me to use(prefer Green Star). Zero Decon at the magic 1:10 we now is a blinder and cleaning but wow it really smashes the lsp. I think this video really has some opportunity for testing more pre washes and bug removers. Zero at lesser dilutions, how about One SF in a trigger at 3%, or another AG product we love like Spritzer. Could this deliver the same result? Thanks for a great video though.
Thanks Andy, yeah I was really surprised the wax took such a hit on hydrophobics with zero at 10-1 I really like Bug Off but Surfex was indeed boring but worked perfectly , the world of pre wash APC’s are all different, I’ll try one snowfoam at 3% on bugs and see what difference that has as a comparison. 😎
I’ve never had a huge problem with bug splatter coming off during pre-wash. Ive always used Surfex which definitely works well like in your test. Recently I’ve used Mile Deep ‘Release’ citrus and that’s never struggled either. I was surprised how easily the GT Decon killed the protection though!
I was surprised as well, as GT have always stated it would clean a good wax in early stages rather than remove a freshly waxed panel, especially one with such a high degree of protection in it 🤔
Nice one, personally i find Auto Glanz very good to use and has been mentioned does enable a longer time on the paintwork, then again not sure that our English midgies are as tough as your Scottish ones. Keep the great work coming.
Good , useful video Graham 👍🏻, i've just bought some Surfex HD as i am moving away from generic citrus APC's. Much more versatile. I think at 20:1 Surfex still does a great job as a prewash under snow foam for very dirty cars. Personally at 10:1 i would use it on wheels & tyres.
Thanks Alan. I’ve been quite disappointed lately with some citrus cleaners, more recently Carbon Collective (review to come) so Surfex might be a good shout as a pre soak, tho with the GT One Snowfoam I found there wasn’t a need for anything under it at all but I don’t let my car get very dirty that it needs a powerful degreaser, maybe in winter we’ll see 🤔
@@GMDetails Totally agree Graham with the citrus cleaners & some are vastly overpriced too. The benefits of Surfex are that you can have 1 product for almost everything & just vary the dilution ration ratios accordingly. I don't let our cars get too dirty but you never know what winter or circumstances will bring but i guess you could always add 10ml or so of GT Decon for an extra kick without compromising any coating/wax. My shelves are getting cluttered with too many different products so now i am de-cluttering and just using the GT Range, Surfex & a couple of specialist things. Too many products are over hyped, overstated & over priced.The first Citrus APC i bought was 5L AutoBrite Direct APC , nearly £40 with delivery & Surfex HD is £19. It's a no-brainer really . Also think that Surfex HD contains rust inhibitors.👍🏻
It’s like all these new brands that have popped up, full range of ready chemicals all ready to go with some probably weaker than the others, they get a few freebies out and influencers all say how amazing they all are it’s just too much 😤 Sometimes you’re better the devil you know eh , or if you see me with some new brand I’ll keep ye right 🤣
@@GMDetails yeah I know you will Graham, that’s why I like yours & Martins honest, candid & humble videos, they are the best on TH-cam. Unfortunately there are some real assholes in the detailing community, I guess they are being paid or sponsored, but honesty is the most important factor to me. I have learnt a lot from yous & value your opinions. 👍
Appreciate it Alan!, I genuinely think some people just don’t know enough of product comparison to tell any different, and if they get it free they feel kind of obliged to say it’s good, Specky actually said this a couple weeks ago , that he can only really be critical on a product he buys, they’d be as well saving the brand some money & just giving up with an attitude like that 🙄
Great video graeme i use the h d d road rage diluted 10:1 used to use spear and Jackson pump sprayer until the valve started leaking so treated myself to the i k pro 9 pump sprayer nice bit of kit left my car couple 3 weeks i just spray the road rage all over the car leave for about 5 mins then either rinse of or put garage therapy snow foam or bilt hamber auto foam or touchless on top of road rage leave for another 5 to 8 mins then rinse off bugs all gone really rate that road rage have you tried it mate 🤔👍👌great video as ever mate interesting and informative
Thanks mate, I have tried Road Rage many moons ago, if you look back to 6 hrs of detailing a VX Insignia that’s what I used on the grime there and carved HDD into the doors 🤣 Wow really splashing out with an IK9 but if its gonna serve you well then why not 👌
It reminds me of an incident many years ago with a bird and a front grill of my old golf mk1, there were no winners. Personally I use either a citrus spray diluted at 20% or surfex at a similar dilution followed by a quick wash and some koch fse.
@@GMDetails Its nice yes but a big wallet and a big shelf really, for a dedicated bottle its the first time I've used fse today after washing my golf (different from the bird incident). I used it mainly on the door shuts and very impressed at the price at around £12 a litre
Think I'll have to try that surfex hd as a pre wash under my snow foam only ever used it in strong dilutions to do engine bays door shuts etc it's a very versatile product that Jon (forensic detailing) swears by it mind you he's sponsored by bilt hamber 🤔🙄🤣 still very cheap and versatile product and made in England so can't be bad 👍👌🤔
Hi Graeme, I'm looking for a product to strip the previous layers of waxes/sealants. Would you recommend GT Decon to do that or is there something better you have used? Thanks Rich
GT zero decon is def brilliant at it also Meguiars Wash+ is amazing as well and a bonus using that it prepared the panels for new waxes or sealants at the same time 👌
Often forget about surfex for anything other than heavy degreasing. For bugs I’ve just been using citrus and finding it better than some dedicated bug remover. Too testing and consumer information, if only there was a link to in2 or something everyone could go grab 5L surfex 😝
Cheers Nick, yeah loads & loads of stuff can clean bugs, APC, STJÄRNAGLOSS use Tar Remover 🥴 Last year I had another dilutable bug cleaner but it’s not available any more and that was incredible stuff at 10-1 , dunno if it was wax safe tho as I mostly used it on customers cars. 5L of surfex would go far wouldn’t it 🤣
Surfex for sure. If for no other reason that it's a product that is very cheap in the 5 litre offering and has so many uses. Five litres of a dedicated product , regardless of price, would be eventually become part of my last will and testament.
Ha ha ha it worked very well in this test anyway and I must admit the smug feeling you get knowing you’ve only spent pennies making up the solution rather then £10.99 for some RTU crap is quite something 🤣
Really surprised that it appears GT wax hasn't been built to be chemically resistant to their own chemicals. I'm well aware how potent zero decon shampoo is, but still, surprising none the less
It did do really well against the One Shampoo test last week, over 50 washes & still as fresh as day 1, but zero decon is just a beast when it comes to removing anything on top of clear coat 😅
Great video Graeme! I'm using a dedicated bug remover. Gyeon Bug&Grime, works great but it will kill your LSP especially when you agitate which sometimes just is neccecary.(check out my latest post on Instagram, real carnage which i was faced with) Never tried Bilt Hamber Surfex HD before but will definitly give it a go once i order up👍
Do you bother with bug removal before pre wash?, Does your snowfoam do the work for you?, Do you use APC or a dedicated cleaner?
Tell me what products you use to deal with bug splatter in the comments ✍🏻
Me personally i “developed” two types of washing routines for my car:
1) regular full wash - cover the car completely in SX HD 5% solution and any foam over it - this takes care of bugs, bird poo, mud. Pressure rinse. Then shampoo and detailer and so on.
2) quick rinseless wash with ONR - when the car is just dusty. Naturally ONR is not powerful enough to remove things that are stuck to the surface, so in this case I do use the dedicated product. But honestly never had really great result with these. But since the goal of a quick wash is not perfection (for me), i settled with merely improving on what it would be without using the product at all.
Thanks for the test!
@@otomoravec1732 sounds as though you’ve found a pretty good system though for me personally I never got into the whole ONR way of things , I’m def going to try surfex at 5% come winter with a ph neutral showfoam over it for a dwell, thanks for watching 👍
@@GMDetails weeeell ONR is an interesting product, yet i am not crazy about it. It is my first bottle, i just wanted to try it out since many people swear by it. I use it as a light duty apc basically. But something about the way it behaves in water is simply… different.
@@otomoravec1732 I have used around half a bottle , I find doing an interior wipe down its brilliant adding a cap of water to the bucket means the damp plastics dry without any water marks but I feel the wash routine is better for a warmer climate without much stuck on debris as you said earlier , but the rag Co claim it’ll remove traffic film as a pre wash and this is simply untrue, here in the uk anyway so it’s left me feeling less than enthusiastic about it
@@GMDetails i would say there is no clear definition on what the so called traffic film actually is. There is incredible variation in types and levels of contamination based on where we live and drive, so everyone’s understanding and results vary.
I drive a lot in the country and with this dry weather, most of the time the car is covered in a thin uniform layer of light brown dust - basically soil particles picked up by wind from the fields. Quite loose, not really sticky or greasy, so the ONR takes care of that without hassle.
Surprising results, I'm sure I won't be the only one in a bit of shock!! But the results are the results!!
Like you said, this isn't a lab test, this is you applying these products to your own bug-splattered car and showing the results!
Cost wise it'd hard to justify the dedicated product for a lot of budgets but obviously a lot of people don't look at it that way!
Well edited as always 😉👍🏼
🤫🤫 ffs that was gonna be a secret 🤣
It’s the whole cost v convenience again isn’t it , £7 for a litre vs £9 or £18, some would go straight for the £7 not knowing it would run out faster 🤣
Surfex HD is the miracle product of all miracle products!
I have literally used it for so many things it's ridiculous. From cleaning the car, cleaning up spot staining on carpets, cleaning my cooker, cleaning my UPVC door and window frames and even cleaning down my decking, I've yet to find something this stuff can't actually do!
Haven't tried brushing my teeth with it yet, to be fair! 🤣
🤣🤣🤣 what dilution did you use for the UPVC?
@@GMDetails 20:1 if I remember correctly! 😁
Thanks mate. Gotta try that 👌
Surfex indeed is the All Purpose Cleaner!!
I have 5lts of Surfex on the shelf Graeme but never used it for bug removal so thats going to change. Really good video mate👍
Thanks Martin, hope you’re well mate 👍
Great video as always ,recently done a 1440 mile road trip from Scotland to the south east of England ,car absolutely plastered in bugs used HDD Road Rage at 10 to 1 and it done a great job .
That’s a good shout!, last time I used it it wasn’t great as a snow foam but a lot better as a pre spray treatment 👌
Thanks
Great review and really appreciate you sharing your results.
Did pretty much exactly same test you did and Surfex proved out the overall best for me. Living in the countryside I use a good bit more than your suggested 50ml per car so cost was a consideration. I also tested using garden hose for the reason you outlined but found same results with pressure washer. Interesting your comment on GT Decon and the newly applied Alpha wax as GT state Decon will strip old waxes so was not expecting it to have such an effect on its own brand wax. Enjoyed the way you set this test up, very fair and practical. On a side note, I tried to use Spritzer to mimic Bug Off but get the cost down, ended up with similar results so may be an option for folks.
I think the test was as fait as I could have been and thanks for confirming you had similar results as has another viewer so it’s certainly thanks to everyone commenting that reassures the facts so thank you mate 👌
Great news Spritzer has similar results 👍
Interesting video Graeme, I done a similar test a while ago on an un-waxed car minus the surfex and found the products I tried to be very similar in cleaning.
You have demonstrated how different results can be on a waxed car which is great as it shows some different things that you need to consider if your car is protected.
Exactly mate. Due to testing different things I actually rarely have a good coating of protection on my car so a good strong cleaner is never usually a problem but different story on a waxed car 🤔
I did this comparison last week between zero and bug off, I had similar results. The only other pro with bug off is it doesn't dry out nearly as fast as zero so given a proper dwell time I find it always works better.
Thanks Dean!, it’s great to get another opinion, and yes dwell time being the gel like spray of bug off is brilliant , I do really like it , and even at £7 a litre the now it’s a very good product for the money
What a great test. Another detailing product some of us question whether it's just a gimmick?? I guess it both is and isn't. For me iv never felt I needed one. A good prewash and snow foam has done the job. Interesting though just how good Bug off is yet safe on lsp. Surfex bores the hell out of me to use(prefer Green Star). Zero Decon at the magic 1:10 we now is a blinder and cleaning but wow it really smashes the lsp. I think this video really has some opportunity for testing more pre washes and bug removers. Zero at lesser dilutions, how about One SF in a trigger at 3%, or another AG product we love like Spritzer. Could this deliver the same result? Thanks for a great video though.
Thanks Andy, yeah I was really surprised the wax took such a hit on hydrophobics with zero at 10-1 I really like Bug Off but Surfex was indeed boring but worked perfectly , the world of pre wash APC’s are all different, I’ll try one snowfoam at 3% on bugs and see what difference that has as a comparison. 😎
I’ve never had a huge problem with bug splatter coming off during pre-wash. Ive always used Surfex which definitely works well like in your test. Recently I’ve used Mile Deep ‘Release’ citrus and that’s never struggled either.
I was surprised how easily the GT Decon killed the protection though!
I was surprised as well, as GT have always stated it would clean a good wax in early stages rather than remove a freshly waxed panel, especially one with such a high degree of protection in it 🤔
Nice one, personally i find Auto Glanz very good to use and has been mentioned does enable a longer time on the paintwork, then again not sure that our English midgies are as tough as your Scottish ones. Keep the great work coming.
🤣🤣🤣 midge wars 🤣🤣🤣
I've got some Gtechniq bug remover to try out.... never actually had a bug remover chemical before, so I'll be interested to see what it does.
The Americanists use a bug remover on tar too!! 🤣
Thank you.
Thanks for watching 👍
Thanks a lot buddy , great video
Glad you liked it
Good , useful video Graham 👍🏻, i've just bought some Surfex HD as i am moving away from generic citrus APC's. Much more versatile. I think at 20:1 Surfex still does a great job as a prewash under snow foam for very dirty cars. Personally at 10:1 i would use it on wheels & tyres.
Thanks Alan. I’ve been quite disappointed lately with some citrus cleaners, more recently Carbon Collective (review to come) so Surfex might be a good shout as a pre soak, tho with the GT One Snowfoam I found there wasn’t a need for anything under it at all but I don’t let my car get very dirty that it needs a powerful degreaser, maybe in winter we’ll see 🤔
@@GMDetails Totally agree Graham with the citrus cleaners & some are vastly overpriced too. The benefits of Surfex are that you can have 1 product for almost everything & just vary the dilution ration ratios accordingly. I don't let our cars get too dirty but you never know what winter or circumstances will bring but i guess you could always add 10ml or so of GT Decon for an extra kick without compromising any coating/wax. My shelves are getting cluttered with too many different products so now i am de-cluttering and just using the GT Range, Surfex & a couple of specialist things. Too many products are over hyped, overstated & over priced.The first Citrus APC i bought was 5L AutoBrite Direct APC , nearly £40 with delivery & Surfex HD is £19. It's a no-brainer really . Also think that Surfex HD contains rust inhibitors.👍🏻
It’s like all these new brands that have popped up, full range of ready chemicals all ready to go with some probably weaker than the others, they get a few freebies out and influencers all say how amazing they all are it’s just too much 😤
Sometimes you’re better the devil you know eh , or if you see me with some new brand I’ll keep ye right 🤣
@@GMDetails yeah I know you will Graham, that’s why I like yours & Martins honest, candid & humble videos, they are the best on TH-cam. Unfortunately there are some real assholes in the detailing community, I guess they are being paid or sponsored, but honesty is the most important factor to me. I have learnt a lot from yous & value your opinions. 👍
Appreciate it Alan!, I genuinely think some people just don’t know enough of product comparison to tell any different, and if they get it free they feel kind of obliged to say it’s good, Specky actually said this a couple weeks ago , that he can only really be critical on a product he buys, they’d be as well saving the brand some money & just giving up with an attitude like that 🙄
Great video graeme i use the h d d road rage diluted 10:1 used to use spear and Jackson pump sprayer until the valve started leaking so treated myself to the i k pro 9 pump sprayer nice bit of kit left my car couple 3 weeks i just spray the road rage all over the car leave for about 5 mins then either rinse of or put garage therapy snow foam or bilt hamber auto foam or touchless on top of road rage leave for another 5 to 8 mins then rinse off bugs all gone really rate that road rage have you tried it mate 🤔👍👌great video as ever mate interesting and informative
Thanks mate, I have tried Road Rage many moons ago, if you look back to 6 hrs of detailing a VX Insignia that’s what I used on the grime there and carved HDD into the doors 🤣
Wow really splashing out with an IK9 but if its gonna serve you well then why not 👌
It reminds me of an incident many years ago with a bird and a front grill of my old golf mk1, there were no winners. Personally I use either a citrus spray diluted at 20% or surfex at a similar dilution followed by a quick wash and some koch fse.
Nice!!!, so def no need to have a dedicated product in your book ?, Not when you have a pre wash you can use then add a little love back with QD 👌
@@GMDetails Its nice yes but a big wallet and a big shelf really, for a dedicated bottle its the first time I've used fse today after washing my golf (different from the bird incident). I used it mainly on the door shuts and very impressed at the price at around £12 a litre
Nice one 👌
Surfex my top valeting product
Have you seen on the BH website Auto Express crowned it Best Shampoo 🤷🏻♂️🫣
For some reason BH touchless really dissolves them as well
So I have heard , need to try that too, should be able to do it at 5% too 👌
@@GMDetails yeah most of the time all the bugs fall off at about 2% in a pump sprayer for me as a prewash
Noted 👌
Think I'll have to try that surfex hd as a pre wash under my snow foam only ever used it in strong dilutions to do engine bays door shuts etc it's a very versatile product that Jon (forensic detailing) swears by it mind you he's sponsored by bilt hamber 🤔🙄🤣 still very cheap and versatile product and made in England so can't be bad 👍👌🤔
Think you’ll have a winner come winter time 👌
Hi Graeme, I'm looking for a product to strip the previous layers of waxes/sealants. Would you recommend GT Decon to do that or is there something better you have used?
Thanks Rich
GT zero decon is def brilliant at it also Meguiars Wash+ is amazing as well and a bonus using that it prepared the panels for new waxes or sealants at the same time 👌
@@GMDetails thanks for that 👍🏻
Often forget about surfex for anything other than heavy degreasing. For bugs I’ve just been using citrus and finding it better than some dedicated bug remover. Too testing and consumer information, if only there was a link to in2 or something everyone could go grab 5L surfex 😝
Cheers Nick, yeah loads & loads of stuff can clean bugs, APC, STJÄRNAGLOSS use Tar Remover 🥴
Last year I had another dilutable bug cleaner but it’s not available any more and that was incredible stuff at 10-1 , dunno if it was wax safe tho as I mostly used it on customers cars.
5L of surfex would go far wouldn’t it 🤣
Wish I had known you where doing this buddy would of sent you some of my favourite bug remover detail kitchen pest control brilliants safe remover
Aw cheers man, always good to do a follow up 😁😅
Surfex for sure. If for no other reason that it's a product that is very cheap in the 5 litre offering and has so many uses. Five litres of a dedicated product , regardless of price, would be eventually become part of my last will and testament.
Ha ha ha it worked very well in this test anyway and I must admit the smug feeling you get knowing you’ve only spent pennies making up the solution rather then £10.99 for some RTU crap is quite something 🤣
1st 😉
Really surprised that it appears GT wax hasn't been built to be chemically resistant to their own chemicals. I'm well aware how potent zero decon shampoo is, but still, surprising none the less
It did do really well against the One Shampoo test last week, over 50 washes & still as fresh as day 1, but zero decon is just a beast when it comes to removing anything on top of clear coat 😅
No first from Puerto Rico, must be in bed 😂
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He doesn’t comment on here 🤣🤷🏻♂️
@@GMDetails The only thing he ever says is 1st
@@ilikechickensausages2075 I don’t think he’s ever commented on one of my videos 🤔
@@GMDetails Just a matter of time 👍
When you can buy 5 litres of surfex for 19 quid it’s hard to not use it for nearly everything!
I really was surprised at how effective it was without affecting the wax , superb!!
I use a Australian brand called "Bugger Off"
🤣🤣🤣 Bowdens?, love their branding shows a great sense of humour 😂
@@GMDetails yeah Bowden's i'm surprised you have heard of them, they are cheeky with the names
Ha ha world famous with their product names , bit like Dickens Cider , ‘she loves a dickens cider’ 🤣🤣🤣
@@GMDetails 😅
Great video Graeme! I'm using a dedicated bug remover. Gyeon Bug&Grime, works great but it will kill your LSP especially when you agitate which sometimes just is neccecary.(check out my latest post on Instagram, real carnage which i was faced with)
Never tried Bilt Hamber Surfex HD before but will definitly give it a go once i order up👍
Thanks mate, interesting how some will & some won’t affect LSP, Surfex won the latest test by Jon at Forensic Detailing so def one to give a go 👌
@@GMDetails Haha just watched that video as well.
An hour of your life you’ll never get back 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@GMDetails 😂😂😂😂