OMG! right?? I'm a chemist and I started cringing so hard when they started discussing the safety and hazard statements. Neither the dragons nor he have even the basic knowledge needed in this case >.
Deborah might be grumpy and impatient at times but she sure has a knack for picking out the technical jargon and marketing falsehoods of a pitch. She does it time and time again, and a rejection from her often dooms any initially promising pitch.
Ehhh, she is ofcource bright..but does not means she is always right or can predict if the products will be a success. She has rejected offer before that becomes a sucess.
“It’s not for the skin, it’s for nails.” And here we have someone with so little understanding of his product that he doesn’t understand that, when doing nails, you almost ALWAYS get a little on the skin
yeah, even good pros have the occasional slip that needs to be cleaned off the skin alongside your nails or whatever, and if it's not skin-safe i have serious doubts that it's notably safer than the host of other polish/gel/shellac options already available. (BS in chemical engineering, routinely gets gel manicures when i can swing the cost.)
Czarinov true and false simultaneously. your nails are actually porous. so if you put toxic nail polish on your fingernails, it will sink into your bloodstream.
Doesn’t matter. These products will probably all say in their fine print that they are not meant to be applied to skin. They say this for legal protection more than any real danger of abit of paint getting on your skin. They probably have the potential to cause an absolutely minimal ammount of problems if they get on the skin, most likly something along the lines of drying out the skin or making it sticky and prone to breaking. Also how bad they are for the skin will also relate to how much is put on the skin. Fairy washing up liquid tells you not to get it on your skin, but not much happens if you do
PantySlayer420 hahahahaha well said..!! I remember topgear when then went China and measure their car industry safety standards 😂😂 so this nail polish 💅 😂😂😂 madam now your nail polish treatment finished with an extra finger grown on the side ”six fingers“ 😂😂😂😂
Natural uranium? Grinding it up and painting it on your fingers wouldn't kill you. Not quickly anyway, unless you ate it. Then the heavy metal toxicity would be an issue. (That's the real reason we stopped using it as a dye, especially on things like plates.)
BugsyPlays 😂 yeah everything is chemicals, even our bodies and the processes. Cooking is chemical, etc. nothing can’t be chemical free. He said many things like, natural, non-toxic, chemical free, doesn’t cause harm unless...
It sounds like he figured nail polish is basically paint and came up with a paint product to make nail application faster. It makes me wonder what he thinks the inside of a nail salon looks like. Welcome to the salon! Please put on this respirator and protective clothing!
@Scorched Earththose sticky barriers are super useful but I don't think too many people actually use them when doing their own nails and Ive never known a professional use a skin barrier, unfortunately.
"It's not toxic so long as you don't put it anywhere else but the nail" Well, by that logic, Fire is completely harm free so long as you don't touch it, petrol is fine so long as you don't breath in the fumes, and snakes aren't venomous so long as you aren't bitten
Well, to his defense, a LOT of Americans still argue firearms are always perfectly safe until the moment the bullet touches the schoolchild's forehead, and I've sat in on trials where killers argued words to the effect of 'We was fine until he hit the ground, so I shouldn't be punished for sending him there using a heavy club' It's not like his kind of BS story has never been bought before.
He sounds like a straight up hustler (scammer) to me. He doesn't understand the things he's saying and hoping potential customers are less informed than himself.
Lmao.. ur just as dumb as her then.. its GENERIC WARNIGNS AND PRECAUTIONS of literally ANY paint-type product. It's like saying bio fuel is "completley" safe then some genius asks questions that Deborah asked... wud u pour bio fuel on your skin or ingest it or hell. Throw it over your eyes?? 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@KR-jg7gc Sorry, but your point is stupid. Do you buy bio-fuel from a supermarket as a household product? I think you're more dumb. Firstly, you can't use proper sentence formations and secondly, you should compare nail polish (a household product) to another household product. Ever heard of non-toxic glue-sticks? Things that children or adults buy as household or school items?... Yeah they're used as glue, but if a small child accidentally found it and put some in the mouth, the child would be fine as it is non-toxic, aka, will not harm you at all. So, yes, this man pitching is an idiot, nail polish that claims it is non-toxic should be safe on skin and not cause harm or irritation, as it is a household product. Just in case you decide to be a moron and disagree, here is the official definition of "non-toxic": www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB841GB841&ei=071eXefnK9qf1fAPhJSl6AM&q=non-toxic+definition+&oq=non-toxic+definition+&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39j0i22i30l9.3576.3576..3713...0.2..0.68.68.1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.goOe4Kdz-yE&ved=0ahUKEwinnZ-g7pbkAhXaTxUIHQRKCT0Q4dUDCAo&uact=5 "not poisonous or toxic. "synonyms: non-poisonous, innocuous, *harmless*, benign, safe, *non-irritating*, *hypoallergenic* " "a non-toxic varnish"" So, if it fucking burns or irritates your skin, that shit is toxic. There, I proved your bullshit wrong with facts, now who's dumb?. Now, it's up to you. Be modest and admit you were wrong for calling someone dumb by not replying back *or* prove me right that you really are dumb and in denial, by replying and disagreeing with me, your choice.
Yep, I wonder if all the camera crew and sound crew are asked for puns before every episode. He would have to be a genius to come up with several puns per episode.
@@12gpm91 That, or just an accomplished sub (editor). When you write headlines or otherwise consider wordplay and puns, it's not so hard to have the write stuff about getting in some gags in the commentary...
- Lied about it being faster than any other product, called out by Sarah - Lied about it being "all-natural", quickly tried to just shift to talking about non-toxic when asked for documentation. - Lied about it being non-toxic. Dude is obviously a conman.
Just cos that's mentioned on all nail polishes doesn't mean it isn't.. u do realise all nail polish is not exactly something natural right... otherwise you'd be born with it?
Teez Well Chinese companies are manipulative and controlling (not all of them, but this is just a joke he is making). I mean have you seen tencent lol.
here are plenty of research materials describing the evaluation of paints through rheology methods. He wasn't right in the way he said it, but he studied rheology for the sake of learning about paint, which is correct. When most chemists hear the word rheology, they immediately think of viscosity and, in fact, quantitative viscosity is one of the material properties that can be obtained from rheological measurements. However, a material's viscosity is not a discrete value, as is temperature. Rather, viscosity is a property that depends on the conditions of measurement, for example, the rate of deformation (shear rate). THIS IS SIGNIFICANT FOR MATERIALS SUCH AS PAINTS SINCE THEY ARE EXPOSED TO a variety of different deformation processes during their useful lifetime. Each of these processes represents a different deformation (shear) rate, and hence may result in a different apparent viscosity. Rheometers provide a means for evaluating this entire range of viscosity changes as well as material viscoelastic properties.
huge fan of deborah for two reasons: 1) she sticks to her principles on health and environment, and 2) she demands to go through the paperwork, and always finds flaws.
I think she means to go through with all her deals, that’s why she’s so thorough, even at this stage. Doesn’t mean it will work out, of course, but that seems to be her actual intention.
"Developed in China" means an awful lot of product testing on animals. :( As a nurse I find the "seek medical attention when swallowed" warning perfectly fine; lots of "natural chemicals" are dangerous when swallowed, too, and a nail product is clearly not for internal use. But the "avoid skin contact" with a nail product is ridiculous. You will always have skin contact with the product during a manicure.
@@natalyakristen7387 if it's made and sold in China it doesn't need tested on animals anymore, but it can be recalled at any time if there's a problem to be tested on animals and the manufacturer doesn't need to be told.
He could have pitched that his nail polish is LESS toxic than other brands out there, but there could never be such thing as non-toxic or natural gel polish. Nothing in nature could produce such end result + if this was remotely possible the big brands would have already done it.
Not defending the toxic nail polish or anything, but a skilled nail technician can put on manicures without getting any polish on the skin of the fingers, unlike us plebs.
@@asdkotable yeah, as a disabled person with hand issues who likes to have gel/shellac manicures done, the good pros can usually keep it off the sides of your fingers but i'd still be "i'm OUT" at that level of contact toxicity.
@@battleswarm4679 IK the labs at my university have risk assessments for water and it is literally just drowning. Bare in mind that you would have to lie across a work bench to then stay there with your face down in water.
I died when he said that Rheology is a study of paint!(it's a study of matter flowing, primarily in their liquid state. Yes it touches paint, but it's certanly not about it only)
@@kaldir6452 well.. if ur on drugs. I asked a question I didnt make a statement so why is ur response to my question one made after a person makes a statement? Notice how that was also a question. Learn to answer questions. Not jump to conclusions
@@xehP Well I mean, it's like saying cartography is drawing a map of North Dakota. Or biology is the study of lungfish. Or paleontology is the study of trilobites. It's a lie by omission.
Wobbles and Bean I get somewhat triggered if people use scientific terms loosely to sell products. A bit of a lost opportunity for the dragons to grill the guy even further!
That is a real shame... He had the perfect history, the perfect backstory as to why he wanted to create this product... If only he had actually created the product he was claiming, single-handedly too.
No, not at all. Matter (aka chemicals) are a small percentage of all "things" in the universe. So saying that virtually everything in the universe is made of chemicals is flat out wrong.
Peter's joke at around 07:50 may have been a play on that line you quoted. I didn't pick up on the fact that he was parodying some sort of company slogan.
First he says “non-toxic”, then he says “non-carcinogenic”. Not the same thing... Plus he has no clue about the ‘scientific’ words he uses. And, as others have said about Deborah Meaden’s comment about “natural”, that does not mean it is not toxic.
Dori1951 and he pronounced it “carcigenic” so many people come on here pretending to be scientifically literate when they have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about
@@mohamedrishwan8819 Apparently if an ingredient has opposite chirality it is impossible to metabolize so you won't get any calories from it, even if it's sugar.
It annoys me when the dragons are unnecessarily rude and dismissive of products and people who don't deserve it, even if the product isn't great. But I actually love it, and it's so satisfying when they pick apart a product that genuinely is a load of crap and figure someone out whose lying through their teeth. And Deborah is the best at it, and so was Duncan when he was on the show
I wouldn't be surprised with his comments about the product having no chemicals. I once met a dude who bragged about his mineral water business, and how the water he made has "over 1000 pH." Go figure.
"Oh it's for nails, it's non toxic for nails" Is basically saying "Mercury isn't toxic, as long as it's inside your thermometer". Yeah duh, but if I get in contact with it, then it's toxic.
@omgwtf696969 She didnt prove it was toxic. All she said wasn't some "ha gotcha" moment. Literally all she quoted was from generic warnings given to all products of its class. Let me ask. Would you consider a jalapeno toxic?
@omgwtf696969 I guarantee if you tweeted/called Crayola and said "my kid drank some paint" they would tell you to call poison control. Same with any non-toxic cleaning product warning of skin and eye irritation. Now is this guy's nail polish on the same level of safety as Crayola's non-toxic? I highly doubt it. But the main point I'm trying to make is that non-toxic =/= safe to eat or wash your eyes with.
The nail polish market is incredibly saturated, His nail polish needed to offer something that's not already on the market to stand even a shadow of a chance. Without being "non-toxic" he has nothing. Even if it was non-toxic, he's not a majority owner of the formula so if he did start getting traction the factory would just start selling to a more well situated brand. So he would still have nothing.
@@withgoddess1119 That's a good point and makes a non toxic product even harder to market as a salon would have to replace all it's products and only use non toxic to be safe. Setting up an all natural salon in a rich wellness obsessed area sounds like a business though. :-)
Other scammers on this and similar shows have the same nervous, sweaty look to them. Not to say everyone who's sweaty and nervous is a scammer, but it's a decent baseline.
He lost me when he said the laboratory owned 50% of it. If the chinese company thought it would sell in the western market they would do it themselves, they would not just take some cash from a sole trader for 50%.
It's not just the actual nail polish that's an issue for pregnant women, it's the fumes and the filing dust. Which is multiplied when you are inside a nail salon....
True, so a natural product is no help unless you replace every product in the salon. I'd imagine setting up all natural salons in rich wellness obsessed areas would be a better business idea, but I'd also imagine it's already been done. :-)
"May cause skin irritation. May be harmful if absorbed through the skin. May cause irritation of the digestive tract. May be harmful if swallowed. Ingestion of large amounts may cause nausea and vomiting, rigidity or convulsions. Continued exposure can produce coma, dehydration, and internal organ. Wear appropriate protective gloves to prevent skin exposure." This comes from the safety sheet (MSDS) of table salt...
You were dishonest. It says "May cause eye, skin, and respiratory tract irritation. Hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air)." You made up all the other stuff.
Yeah back in the days when it was a stairs they had another stairs they filmed them walking up earlier in the day. :-) There was never a camera at the top of the stairs when they come up.
He went in there with the points that his product is being applied fast and is natural therefore not toxic. He went out there with the statement the nail colour isn't toxic for your nail. Congratulations you invented something that already exists in multitude and still cling to the motion that your version is unique.
"Paphitis has been criticised for some of his views on women. In 2008, he was quoted by Kira Cochrane of The Guardian newspaper as saying that although women may refuse to take maternity leave, "their brains turn to mush" after the pregnancy and "they take three months off".[23] Paphitis voted for Brexit in 2016, describing the EU as a "failed experiment".[24]" Theo has been smoking too much crack.
The safety sheet for sodium chloride (table salt) from Fisher tells you to wear face protection and avoid ingestion when handling it. Almost any substance has some scary language in its paperwork even if it's actually pretty harmless.
He also doesn’t seem to understand that everything is a chemical and that “natural” ingredients can be pretty toxic. They were buzz words to pull people in.
You apply the nail varnish directly to the industrial grade gloves. The gloves look very pretty after. He forgot to mention this. Had he done so, the dragons would have tripped over each other to give him the money.
This guys pitch was destroyed in seconds and actually lied every step of the way , cover up after cover up until debra read the notes , he comes across as smarmy too.
chemical-free is a term used in marketing to imply that a product is safe, healthy or environmentally friendly because it only contains natural ingredients.
There's a big reason the dragons are so strict and quick to rile with stuff like this, and that's the simple fact that this is putting people's safety at risk. And when you're putting non-toxic on bottles of stuff that can require medical attention if consumed it's potentially lives at risk, especially considering one of the common reasons people seek non-toxic versions of products is to use around small kids
The most hilarious thing was a man (who clearly has never had a manicure in his life) trying to tell women (who obviously get manicures) that it's the best product on the market. 😂😂😂😂
can we say MANSPLAINING, ladies and gentlemen? (BS in chemical engineering, routinely gets gel manicures, would LIKE there to be a safer option out there for both pros' and clients' sake, but i sure af don't believe this dude's come up with it.)
In History mostly men contributed to the development and marketing of Make-Up and nail polish. Like the founder of Max Factor, Maksymilian Faktorowicz, and the brothers Charles and Joseph Revson, who founded the company Revlon, one of the first nail polish companies in the 20th century.
@@elizabethevenson6110 As of 2020, more men, even straight men, are becoming more comfortable with cosmetics, which is great, but this is an old ass episode. So you're right, I wouldn't trust this dude as far as I could throw him when it comes to manicures, nail polish formulas etc.
"Completely chemical free"
Well either you don't know what a chemical is, or that's an empty bottle
Even an empty bottle is made of chemicals. Oh okay then it's fresh air. Erm...chemicals! ;-)
The Fakey Cake Maker bag, empty. Bottle better be a vacuum inside ;) haha
He wouldn't even exist if he himself was free of those chemikillz....
Exactly. Drives me nuts too ....
😂😂 very true, chemicals practically make up every single thing on planet earth.
"Its chemical free!"= no understanding of basic chemistry
OMG! right?? I'm a chemist and I started cringing so hard when they started discussing the safety and hazard statements. Neither the dragons nor he have even the basic knowledge needed in this case >.
Yea, how the hell can something be chemical free
@Street Deacon Plenty of 20 year olds type like that informally
His nail polish chemical free, it’s a vacuum.
09:21 "Like petrol at the fuel station." LMAO
"Completely chemical free"
sells you an empty bottle.
Empty as in full of air which is all kinds of molecules?
@@edwardqueen5791 It can't even be a perfect vacuum, because the bottle will release particles too, huh?
Thanks, this sent me 😂
So a perfect vacuum... that would be neat.
The bottle has chemicals... 🤔
Deborah might be grumpy and impatient at times but she sure has a knack for picking out the technical jargon and marketing falsehoods of a pitch. She does it time and time again, and a rejection from her often dooms any initially promising pitch.
Yea I love that about her!
Ehhh, she is ofcource bright..but does not means she is always right or can predict if the products will be a success. She has rejected offer before that becomes a sucess.
Yeah, I respect that she always looks through the documentation properly in order to formulate a properly calculated decision.
Dreamformeable “ofcource” 😂
You’re not so bright.
Yeah she’s a bitch but she knows about business she’s good at what she does
"Co-developed with a laboratory in China".
Means I bought a job lot off Alibaba.
😂😂
@Thelondonbadger that's me 😂 and no Instagram
Thelondonbadger leave her alone
NAILED IT!
good man
“It’s not for the skin, it’s for nails.”
And here we have someone with so little understanding of his product that he doesn’t understand that, when doing nails, you almost ALWAYS get a little on the skin
Nails are skin tbh..
yeah, even good pros have the occasional slip that needs to be cleaned off the skin alongside your nails or whatever, and if it's not skin-safe i have serious doubts that it's notably safer than the host of other polish/gel/shellac options already available. (BS in chemical engineering, routinely gets gel manicures when i can swing the cost.)
@cornel, nails ARE NOT skin. Same as hair isn't skin. Wtf
Czarinov true and false simultaneously. your nails are actually porous. so if you put toxic nail polish on your fingernails, it will sink into your bloodstream.
Doesn’t matter. These products will probably all say in their fine print that they are not meant to be applied to skin.
They say this for legal protection more than any real danger of abit of paint getting on your skin.
They probably have the potential to cause an absolutely minimal ammount of problems if they get on the skin, most likly something along the lines of drying out the skin or making it sticky and prone to breaking.
Also how bad they are for the skin will also relate to how much is put on the skin.
Fairy washing up liquid tells you not to get it on your skin, but not much happens if you do
Non Toxic and Chinese laboratory don't belong in the same sentence
Exactly. Even if the product was non-toxic, the bottle might be printed with lead paint. lol
PantySlayer420 right that!!!
Hhaaaahahaha
PantySlayer420 hahahahaha well said..!!
I remember topgear when then went China and measure their car industry safety standards 😂😂 so this nail polish 💅 😂😂😂 madam now your nail polish treatment finished with an extra finger grown on the side ”six fingers“ 😂😂😂😂
Yes ! hahaha
...well uranium is natural....
but i wouldn't paint it on my fingers
Exactly. People seem to think if it says 'all-natural' on the product then it must be safe.
Depending on the isotope it might give your nails a nice glow...
Dave Tin can pain is beauty
So is lava
Natural uranium? Grinding it up and painting it on your fingers wouldn't kill you. Not quickly anyway, unless you ate it. Then the heavy metal toxicity would be an issue. (That's the real reason we stopped using it as a dye, especially on things like plates.)
“This is poison”
“Of course it is, you all have been poisoned and I have the antidote”
“I want 5M from you all. I’ll give you some time to think”
Thats how a bond villain gets investors
😂lmao
I’m 💀💀💀💀💀
And for this reason I'm out
@B Roli
I think something similar was on the water one
"Completely chemical free"
Does it even exist?
BugsyPlays I wouldn’t say so; considering water is a chemical
Pretty sure total vacuum is a thing or lack of thing?
Perhaps it's made from exotic matter?
I mean all natural isn’t great either, cyanide is natural lmao
BugsyPlays 😂 yeah everything is chemicals, even our bodies and the processes. Cooking is chemical, etc. nothing can’t be chemical free. He said many things like, natural, non-toxic, chemical free, doesn’t cause harm unless...
Luckily for this guy, nails are notoriously situated far away from skin.
I'm literally dying from laughter
@@ebonimom6964 Rest In Peace. I only knew you for the split second it took to read your comment, but you're already sadly missed.
Especially on pregnant women
@@ConScortis 😂😂😂
i will let the likes stay at 969
"Use with goggles and a face shield."
"It's safe for pregnant women!"
Bruh...
Double "Bruh.."
It's safe for pregnant women
*written in the tiniest font possible* Buuuuut the woman would no longer be pregnant and/or possibly alive
It sounds like he figured nail polish is basically paint and came up with a paint product to make nail application faster. It makes me wonder what he thinks the inside of a nail salon looks like. Welcome to the salon! Please put on this respirator and protective clothing!
"Chemical-free" nailpolish. Hmm... interesting considering EVERYTHING in this world is made up of chemicals.
Right, poison is natural it's still toxic.
I know. Any time anyone says "chemical free", I become jenny and I'm out.
i heard non toxic, but never heard chemical free. who said chemical free?
Ryan Nathen go to 1:11
"a distinct compound or substance, especially one which has been artificially prepared or purified" lol ok dude
wait, did i hear wrong or did he say he needs to wear gloves to put this on?
wear gloves... to paint your nails?
The technician
And a full face mask😂
You heard wrong Mr. Braindead
@Scorched Earththose sticky barriers are super useful but I don't think too many people actually use them when doing their own nails and Ive never known a professional use a skin barrier, unfortunately.
probably needs a hazmat suit aswell
"It's not toxic so long as you don't put it anywhere else but the nail"
Well, by that logic, Fire is completely harm free so long as you don't touch it, petrol is fine so long as you don't breath in the fumes, and snakes aren't venomous so long as you aren't bitten
I mean he literally used that logic when he mentioned petrol. He said it's safe at a gas station. Nobody claimed petrol is non-toxic lol.
Finally someone says venomous, instead of poisonous
Instructions unclear. I drank petrol and now I’m fucked
This is a schrodingers nail gel. Completely legit.
Well, to his defense, a LOT of Americans still argue firearms are always perfectly safe until the moment the bullet touches the schoolchild's forehead, and I've sat in on trials where killers argued words to the effect of 'We was fine until he hit the ground, so I shouldn't be punished for sending him there using a heavy club'
It's not like his kind of BS story has never been bought before.
Been getting my nails done for 20+ years, and if a gel 💅 is taking 40 minutes!!! Omg - go somewhere else. He is thinking of a full acrylic set.
Didn't read any of that but you are fitttt
Some people use gel for acrylic
Dave Mustaine Thank you Dave. I was waiting for someone to notice.
@@blondesense1708 I'm sure you were
Dave Mustaine 😂
He sounds like a straight up hustler (scammer) to me. He doesn't understand the things he's saying and hoping potential customers are less informed than himself.
Trying to give that shit to pregnant women. Foul greedy prick
@rory clynes yep me too
@@nettils5555 thicc twat
Lmao.. ur just as dumb as her then.. its GENERIC WARNIGNS AND PRECAUTIONS of literally ANY paint-type product. It's like saying bio fuel is "completley" safe then some genius asks questions that Deborah asked...
wud u pour bio fuel on your skin or ingest it or hell. Throw it over your eyes?? 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@KR-jg7gc Sorry, but your point is stupid. Do you buy bio-fuel from a supermarket as a household product? I think you're more dumb. Firstly, you can't use proper sentence formations and secondly, you should compare nail polish (a household product) to another household product.
Ever heard of non-toxic glue-sticks? Things that children or adults buy as household or school items?... Yeah they're used as glue, but if a small child accidentally found it and put some in the mouth, the child would be fine as it is non-toxic, aka, will not harm you at all. So, yes, this man pitching is an idiot, nail polish that claims it is non-toxic should be safe on skin and not cause harm or irritation, as it is a household product.
Just in case you decide to be a moron and disagree, here is the official definition of "non-toxic":
www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB841GB841&ei=071eXefnK9qf1fAPhJSl6AM&q=non-toxic+definition+&oq=non-toxic+definition+&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39j0i22i30l9.3576.3576..3713...0.2..0.68.68.1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.goOe4Kdz-yE&ved=0ahUKEwinnZ-g7pbkAhXaTxUIHQRKCT0Q4dUDCAo&uact=5
"not poisonous or toxic.
"synonyms: non-poisonous, innocuous, *harmless*, benign, safe, *non-irritating*, *hypoallergenic*
"
"a non-toxic varnish""
So, if it fucking burns or irritates your skin, that shit is toxic. There, I proved your bullshit wrong with facts, now who's dumb?. Now, it's up to you. Be modest and admit you were wrong for calling someone dumb by not replying back *or* prove me right that you really are dumb and in denial, by replying and disagreeing with me, your choice.
When Deborah asks to see paperwork, you know you're in trouble
*Never fight the devil with paperwork*
- Deborah "The Demon" Meaden
Deborah: "Can I see the legal documents?"
Me: "Nope."
Guy: product is absolutely safe, not toxic
Turns out... you need an entire hazard suit to put it on
Turns out u dont know much about any paint product..
@@KR-jg7gc Turns out you have no ability to take a joke, spell correctly or understand sarcasm.
Frosty
nice profile pic, Jo Jo's bizzare adventure
@@craigtrish2011 turns out ur ass is on your face
🤔
Karabo raleting that’s why ur tryna talk to it so much
Man this narrator is always on point with his puns... He must have a whole department dedicated to puns for every pitch.
Hopewell Mbuli yup.. Plus he is just repeating what the dragons just said. No need for a narrator in this programme ugh
Yep, I wonder if all the camera crew and sound crew are asked for puns before every episode.
He would have to be a genius to come up with several puns per episode.
@@12gpm91 That, or just an accomplished sub (editor). When you write headlines or otherwise consider wordplay and puns, it's not so hard to have the write stuff about getting in some gags in the commentary...
You could say he... nailed it.
Hopewell Mbuli Rehearsed puns at its finest 😂
- Lied about it being faster than any other product, called out by Sarah
- Lied about it being "all-natural", quickly tried to just shift to talking about non-toxic when asked for documentation.
- Lied about it being non-toxic.
Dude is obviously a conman.
He's just a liar
Yep. People trying to say he just misunderstood.. no way. He is absolutely a liar. You don't want to deal with people like him.
@@Vaginaninja the literal definition of conman is someone who deceives someone for their own gain
Harmful if absorbed through the skin... you know, like nail beds.
perfect
Perfect
Just cos that's mentioned on all nail polishes doesn't mean it isn't.. u do realise all nail polish is not exactly something natural right... otherwise you'd be born with it?
Karabo raleting Normal nail polish is more safer though
@Eric Miret lol yea whatever.. I mean their not natural FOR YOU.. einstein.. 😒
"He stood his ground." Too bad that ground was quicksand.
😂
I got a nice hearty chuckle from that, thank you.
Owned 50% by a company in China. In reality that means they own 100% of it and there's nothing you can do about it.
CatsMeowPaw and it was probably an existing formulation he’s just importing
They're probably mass ordered from alibaba. They're dirt cheap
CatsMeowPaw wait what?
Teez Well Chinese companies are manipulative and controlling (not all of them, but this is just a joke he is making). I mean have you seen tencent lol.
and a Chinese lab is likely state owned, at least to some degree. Meaning it's owned by the Chinese government
So he lied TWICE.
1 it's not the fastest
2 it's not non toxic.
Clown.
I disagree....there are many natural products out there are toxic in certain conditions, as he tried pointing out.
3. He only owns 50%
@@srikanthsiva1975 - Your mental gymnastics astound me.
@@imluvinyourmum Are you saying its Aliens?
@@tamurkhawaja7279 - Experts agree Peter Jones is an alien
I love that Deborah reaches out for a binder of legal documents with the gesture and expression of a toddler reaching out for candy
The analogy 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂
Rheology is the study of how materials flow in various states such as liquid, solid and gas. There is no -ology for paint lol.
NoRae Song lol
Yea that’s when I would have stopped him right there. “Sir, rheology is not the study of paint and for that reason I’m out.”
Paintology. there is now ..
powder coat
here are plenty of research materials describing the evaluation of paints through rheology methods. He wasn't right in the way he said it, but he studied rheology for the sake of learning about paint, which is correct.
When most chemists hear the word rheology, they immediately think of viscosity and, in fact, quantitative viscosity is one of the material properties that can be obtained from rheological measurements.
However, a material's viscosity is not a discrete value, as is temperature. Rather, viscosity is a property that depends on the conditions of measurement, for example, the rate of deformation (shear rate).
THIS IS SIGNIFICANT FOR MATERIALS SUCH AS PAINTS SINCE THEY ARE EXPOSED TO a variety of different deformation processes during their useful lifetime.
Each of these processes represents a different deformation (shear) rate, and hence may result in a different apparent viscosity. Rheometers provide a
means for evaluating this entire range of viscosity changes as well as material viscoelastic properties.
huge fan of deborah for two reasons: 1) she sticks to her principles on health and environment, and 2) she demands to go through the paperwork, and always finds flaws.
FACTS!
I think she means to go through with all her deals, that’s why she’s so thorough, even at this stage. Doesn’t mean it will work out, of course, but that seems to be her actual intention.
"Developed in China" means an awful lot of product testing on animals. :(
As a nurse I find the "seek medical attention when swallowed" warning perfectly fine; lots of "natural chemicals" are dangerous when swallowed, too, and a nail product is clearly not for internal use.
But the "avoid skin contact" with a nail product is ridiculous. You will always have skin contact with the product during a manicure.
Developed in China can mean a lot of things lol, savoury and otherwise (many on the latter).
Testing on animals is not equal to chemical free, u can test chemical free products on animals
If a product is made in China it does not have to be tested on animals, it’s only if it’s sold in China
@@natalyakristen7387 if it's made and sold in China it doesn't need tested on animals anymore, but it can be recalled at any time if there's a problem to be tested on animals and the manufacturer doesn't need to be told.
Or tested on poltical prisoners
Chinese guy in lab: "Tell him it's non-toxic and natural, only 10 people died this time."
lmfao underrated
😂😂😂😂
Sounds like Johnson & johnson
Best comment on TH-cam so far.
@@dy2cakc1 Ever? You should read some of my previous ones.
He could have pitched that his nail polish is LESS toxic than other brands out there, but there could never be such thing as non-toxic or natural gel polish. Nothing in nature could produce such end result + if this was remotely possible the big brands would have already done it.
Because no one ever gets nail polish on their skin, just the nail....
Panda390 but nails aren’t impermeable surfaces so the chemicals soak through
Any nail polish says to avoid inhalation or skin contact.
@@TheJacklikesvideos the point was him saying its non toxic. It is toxic in many ways.
Not defending the toxic nail polish or anything, but a skilled nail technician can put on manicures without getting any polish on the skin of the fingers, unlike us plebs.
@@asdkotable yeah, as a disabled person with hand issues who likes to have gel/shellac manicures done, the good pros can usually keep it off the sides of your fingers but i'd still be "i'm OUT" at that level of contact toxicity.
"It's non toxic!"
"Really? Bc it says right here..."
"Look everything is a little bit toxic, even gasoline"
I mean... he's not _wrong_ but bruh.
Everything is toxic with enough amounts
@@8b8b8b even water
For me, that's where he lost it.
@@battleswarm4679 IK the labs at my university have risk assessments for water and it is literally just drowning. Bare in mind that you would have to lie across a work bench to then stay there with your face down in water.
"it's half-owned by a chemicals company in China" and that's the point he realised, he fukt up
So a chemical free product is manufactured at a chemical company?
Seems legit.
I died when he said that Rheology is a study of paint!(it's a study of matter flowing, primarily in their liquid state. Yes it touches paint, but it's certanly not about it only)
When he said he ‘studied it’ his ‘study’ involved him looking up a Wikipedia page on it.
So I wouldn’t get too uptight about it.
@@tinderella2386 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
thanks for the info. i didnt even know how to spell it
Thanks... Now the etymology of diarrhea makes sense
"chemical free", would've stopped listening right there.
I'd offer him some chemical free cash
Rheology is the study of flow of matter, not the study of paint lmaoooo
And paint isn't a matter which flows?
@@KR-jg7gc that's like saying "biology is the study of frogs"
@@KR-jg7gc By your definition a fisherman is also a Rheologist.
@@kaldir6452 well.. if ur on drugs. I asked a question I didnt make a statement so why is ur response to my question one made after a person makes a statement?
Notice how that was also a question. Learn to answer questions. Not jump to conclusions
@@JSmellerM same goes for you.
He said "Rheology is the study of paint" and for that reason, I'm out
Right?? I think he just found that word in a physics textbook and thought it sounded cool. 🙄
it's not exactly incorrect.
@@xehP Well I mean, it's like saying cartography is drawing a map of North Dakota. Or biology is the study of lungfish. Or paleontology is the study of trilobites. It's a lie by omission.
Wobbles and Bean I get somewhat triggered if people use scientific terms loosely to sell products. A bit of a lost opportunity for the dragons to grill the guy even further!
@Xyre154 Watch out, some of these degenerates will rip you a new one if you try and use logic here...
That is a real shame... He had the perfect history, the perfect backstory as to why he wanted to create this product... If only he had actually created the product he was claiming, single-handedly too.
Right he was nailing it the first 4 mins I was rooting for him lol 😂 then it all fell apart
I don't think you understand what "perfect" means
"Completely chemical free."
*Virtually everything in the known Universe is made of chemicals.*
Competely molecule -free. Contains no atoms.
@@DavidBeachCanada its just pure energy
No, not at all. Matter (aka chemicals) are a small percentage of all "things" in the universe.
So saying that virtually everything in the universe is made of chemicals is flat out wrong.
@@buragi5441 Depends what you mean by "things", really.
@@KaninTuzi Dark matter, energy.
"Don't just be gel, be well gel" made me cringe so hard.
Peter's joke at around 07:50 may have been a play on that line you quoted. I didn't pick up on the fact that he was parodying some sort of company slogan.
@@GMak81 - what Peter said, I took it to mean "if another Dragon invests and it's a success, I'd be well JEALous", kind of a pun.
@Fist Finger I shuddered after reading what you typed.
"it's non-toxic because it doesn't damage the nail"
so just like pretty much every other nail product then?
'Chemical free' I always worry when companies say that everything in the universe is bloody chemicals so for that reason I'm out
First he says “non-toxic”, then he says “non-carcinogenic”. Not the same thing...
Plus he has no clue about the ‘scientific’ words he uses.
And, as others have said about Deborah Meaden’s comment about “natural”, that does not mean it is not toxic.
Yeah there are a bunch of fully natural things that are highly toxic.
I feel like she's the type to believe that "all-natural" and "kills 99% bacteria" on labels
Dori1951 and he pronounced it “carcigenic”
so many people come on here pretending to be scientifically literate when they have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about
"Chemical free" is about as reassuring as "Calorie free".
I see these calorie free ranch dressings and sauces at the store with very long ingredients list and it is very suspicious
I mean legally you can't say something is calorie free unless it actually is.
How is it possible to be calorie free, dosnt everything have some calories
Mohamed Rishwan No not everything.
@@mohamedrishwan8819 Apparently if an ingredient has opposite chirality it is impossible to metabolize so you won't get any calories from it, even if it's sugar.
“It’s chemical free!”
So it’s a bottle. It’s an empty
Bottle
WHERE ARE THE TURTLES The bottle is a chemical too 🤣
Bottle is also a chemical
The air in the bottle is made of chemicals
Even then it's still chemicals. Air is chemicals. Lmao
Even an empty bottle is made up of chemicals
Chemical free, lmao he actually said that.
It annoys me when the dragons are unnecessarily rude and dismissive of products and people who don't deserve it, even if the product isn't great. But I actually love it, and it's so satisfying when they pick apart a product that genuinely is a load of crap and figure someone out whose lying through their teeth. And Deborah is the best at it, and so was Duncan when he was on the show
right? sometimes it can be overly tough but all and all, they have good bs sniffers!!!
My out is name, and for that Jenny I'm reason.
Very good 😃
🤯 that made my brain hurt 🤯
Cringe
That's like Jenception!
Damn sheriff of nottingham 🤣
This is a great programme for alerting the public to con-artists and liars
i dont expect everyone to be highly educated in chemistry, but i feel like knowing what a chemical is should be common knowledge
Jenny "jokes" have reached Nino-tier cliche
HELLLLOOOO MY NAMES -NINOOOOO- JENNY
For that reason I'm out
Hello, I'm jenny and I'm.....NINOOOOO
Nino: Hellooooo, my name's NINOOOOOOOO.
Jenny: Hi I'm Jenny, and for that reason I'm out.
My name is out, so for that reason I'm Jenny
I wouldn't be surprised with his comments about the product having no chemicals. I once met a dude who bragged about his mineral water business, and how the water he made has "over 1000 pH."
Go figure.
Lol, it was more base than lye.
"Oh it's for nails, it's non toxic for nails" Is basically saying "Mercury isn't toxic, as long as it's inside your thermometer". Yeah duh, but if I get in contact with it, then it's toxic.
“I can’t eat this nail polish, for that reason I’m out”
it's not like anyone puts food near their nails, it's fine!
@omgwtf696969
She didnt prove it was toxic. All she said wasn't some "ha gotcha" moment. Literally all she quoted was from generic warnings given to all products of its class. Let me ask. Would you consider a jalapeno toxic?
@omgwtf696969 I guarantee if you tweeted/called Crayola and said "my kid drank some paint" they would tell you to call poison control. Same with any non-toxic cleaning product warning of skin and eye irritation. Now is this guy's nail polish on the same level of safety as Crayola's non-toxic? I highly doubt it.
But the main point I'm trying to make is that non-toxic =/= safe to eat or wash your eyes with.
The nail polish market is incredibly saturated, His nail polish needed to offer something that's not already on the market to stand even a shadow of a chance. Without being "non-toxic" he has nothing. Even if it was non-toxic, he's not a majority owner of the formula so if he did start getting traction the factory would just start selling to a more well situated brand. So he would still have nothing.
No chemicals in it this guy is selling a bottle of vacuum
"It's been co-developed with a laboratory in China."
Me: Right... I'm out.
‘Only nail gel suitable for pregnant women.’ I’m 40 weeks pregnant, consistently get gel nails and this is the first I’ve heard of this lol.
Only reason to not get gel nails in pregnancy is can’t have on if end up needing a c section. But that’s true if having any surgery
@@katierosealexander8132 The issue would be toxins in the salon that you breathe in.
@@withgoddess1119 That's a good point and makes a non toxic product even harder to market as a salon would have to replace all it's products and only use non toxic to be safe. Setting up an all natural salon in a rich wellness obsessed area sounds like a business though. :-)
@Joy Georgina yes but each one had lovely red nails
I was going to make a Jenny joke but “I’m out” of them
Almost every time I hear someone start their pitch with insinuating that chemicals are bad I know I'm in for someone falling flat on their face.
"Non toxic is very different to natural"
"Natural..yeaaaah"
Chemical free!
Must be made of anti-matter
Have you got the time stamp he said chemical free? i only ever heard him say non toxic.
@@harrymerrett8449 1:12
@@JG_CBR thanks
still better than you though, made up of pure faeces
Lol
Mustafa: Completely chemical free
Chemists: I'm going to end this man's career
Dragon: I'm listening
"This chemical has no chemicals!"
🤔
Marcus Nicholsen when was that said
@Reps for Jesus He said it was chemical free which is contradictory and impossible when talking about anything made of 1 or more elements.
Why does he look like he’s constantly going to cry..
Other scammers on this and similar shows have the same nervous, sweaty look to them. Not to say everyone who's sweaty and nervous is a scammer, but it's a decent baseline.
He watched Titanic before the pitch?
It's because of the fumes.
💀😂
I really love that Deborah knew how to read the SDS/chemical info he provided so that she could call him out, lmaoooo
She didn't though, she got it wrong.
@@BenjaminGooseHow so?
"I studied rheology, which is the study of paint"
no
Double no
Studied = "I done a google"
@@colmivers He didn't even do that! His definition of rheology is incorrect in every sense of the word.
dude lost me at "china"
GD Nygma ❌🧢
He lost me when he said the laboratory owned 50% of it.
If the chinese company thought it would sell in the western market they would do it themselves, they would not just take some cash from a sole trader for 50%.
GD Nygma many businesses use China to make their products
@@houdini5538 make them but r&d is a whole different kettle of fish
He lost me when he said it was "chemical free". Wtf does that even mean?
"They don't understand, it's for the nails not the skin"
...which is like super close to the nails...
It's not just the actual nail polish that's an issue for pregnant women, it's the fumes and the filing dust. Which is multiplied when you are inside a nail salon....
True, so a natural product is no help unless you replace every product in the salon. I'd imagine setting up all natural salons in rich wellness obsessed areas would be a better business idea, but I'd also imagine it's already been done. :-)
"May cause skin irritation. May be harmful if absorbed through the skin. May cause irritation of the digestive tract. May be harmful if swallowed. Ingestion of large amounts may cause nausea and vomiting, rigidity or convulsions. Continued exposure can produce coma, dehydration, and internal organ. Wear appropriate protective gloves to prevent skin exposure." This comes from the safety sheet (MSDS) of table salt...
You were dishonest. It says "May cause eye, skin, and respiratory tract irritation. Hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air)." You made up all the other stuff.
All products have a long list of potential hazards. I think they have to list even if there’s a really low chance of a problem.
@@marks6663 I did not make anything up. Here it is: fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/21105.htm
"It's non-toxic....as long as you don't get it on your skin, swallow it, breath in the fumes or get it in your eyes!"
He seems a bit dodgy to be blunt.
Them pretending that’s a real elevator is my favorite part
Yeah back in the days when it was a stairs they had another stairs they filmed them walking up earlier in the day. :-) There was never a camera at the top of the stairs when they come up.
"Its chemical free!", I see I always wanted to paint my fingers with abstract concepts
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A pile of 💩 is "all natural" too 🤦🏻♀️
These dragons den videos pop up so often on the suggestions I’ve just gone an subscribed smh 🤦🏽♂️
Why? They pop up all the time either way. No need for a subscription surely?
Spelling and common sense lessons should be in your recommended videos based on that moronic and misspelled comment..
Love a bit of dragon send
Riaz Hamdan Malik Why don’t you stop acting like an entitled piece of shit. There’s a thing called Dyslexia. Don’t act like a smart arse.
@@riazhamdanmalik6036 Oh do please grow up. I only see one moron here.
Deborah is like my mom when i decide a small tiny little lie is going to slip by unnoticed.
Instantly owned...
Totally non-toxic
*wear gloves and gas mask otherwise your skin will melt*
Seems legit
🤦🏾♂️
"Rheology is the study of paint", right. Next please
Whenever Deborah asks to see the paperwork you know it won't end well for them.
Peter trying to be funny with his 'wellgel' joke at 7:40
I'm well gel you noticed that first! 😂
@@T-800.. check 'harry & paul dragons den' for more....
Trouble is, it’s stand up and he was sitting down. 😂
To be honest, when you're that rich, you probably don't care if anyone laughs
PapaPlatypus, I love Peter because not only is he the most powerful dragon, he’s that good he can negotiate AND come up with cringey pun jokes
He went in there with the points that his product is being applied fast and is natural therefore not toxic. He went out there with the statement the nail colour isn't toxic for your nail. Congratulations you invented something that already exists in multitude and still cling to the motion that your version is unique.
Chemical free? Contains no atoms of matter - pure vacuum. Yes, that sounds right.
They've just announced that Theo Paphitis is coming back for 4 episodes of the new series
I shook his hand in June bc he's my university chancellor :)
Nah have him and touker because jenny is out
Theo the Fetus!
DaleOnFilm wish they could bring back all the original ones, and even keep some of the newer ones.
Why is it only 5 dragons?
Why not more?
"Paphitis has been criticised for some of his views on women. In 2008, he was quoted by Kira Cochrane of The Guardian newspaper as saying that although women may refuse to take maternity leave, "their brains turn to mush" after the pregnancy and "they take three months off".[23]
Paphitis voted for Brexit in 2016, describing the EU as a "failed experiment".[24]"
Theo has been smoking too much crack.
Sounds like it would be a mlm scam product
This guy is a walking MLM.
MLMs often claim that their products are chemical free so his product is qualified to join!
The safety sheet for sodium chloride (table salt) from Fisher tells you to wear face protection and avoid ingestion when handling it. Almost any substance has some scary language in its paperwork even if it's actually pretty harmless.
It depends on how the product is handled. Finely powdered salt is actually nasty. And he just downright lied about basically everything.
He also doesn’t seem to understand that everything is a chemical and that “natural” ingredients can be pretty toxic. They were buzz words to pull people in.
Someone tell me how you’re supposed to wear gloves while applying nail polish
You apply the nail varnish directly to the industrial grade gloves. The gloves look very pretty after. He forgot to mention this. Had he done so, the dragons would have tripped over each other to give him the money.
Captain Wilde no they wouldn’t have his product is bad he has no orders
@@deo8375 if the joke would've flew any higher over your head it would've gone into orbit.
@@anormalchest560 😂
This guys pitch was destroyed in seconds and actually lied every step of the way , cover up after cover up until debra read the notes , he comes across as smarmy too.
"Chemical free!" Everything is a chemical my guy.
@Fist Finger 🤦♂️😐
@Fist Finger Toxic? What the hell are you talking about?
chemical-free is a term used in marketing to imply that a product is safe, healthy or environmentally friendly because it only contains natural ingredients.
"turkish elon musk pitches nail polish as a new product" should be the title
Aged like milk :')
Love how Deborah is always straight to the paperwork to sniff out a scam
When 50% of the secret is in the hand of Chinese, there is no secret
There's a big reason the dragons are so strict and quick to rile with stuff like this, and that's the simple fact that this is putting people's safety at risk. And when you're putting non-toxic on bottles of stuff that can require medical attention if consumed it's potentially lives at risk, especially considering one of the common reasons people seek non-toxic versions of products is to use around small kids
Whenever I hear someone recommend me a "chemical free" product, I start doubting their intellect.
30 seconds in and I knew this guy was a doorknob.
"It's non-toxic in relation to the nail"... well, petrol is also non-toxic in relation to the petrol tank.
Great Deborah caught the BS that was coming out of this guys mouth. He is full of it,BS!
My product is so clean you could drink it. Wait don’t do that because tf toxic
You can drink it *on the nail*
The most hilarious thing was a man (who clearly has never had a manicure in his life) trying to tell women (who obviously get manicures) that it's the best product on the market. 😂😂😂😂
can we say MANSPLAINING, ladies and gentlemen? (BS in chemical engineering, routinely gets gel manicures, would LIKE there to be a safer option out there for both pros' and clients' sake, but i sure af don't believe this dude's come up with it.)
In History mostly men contributed to the development and marketing of Make-Up and nail polish. Like the founder of Max Factor, Maksymilian Faktorowicz, and the brothers Charles and Joseph Revson, who founded the company Revlon, one of the first nail polish companies in the 20th century.
@@elizabethevenson6110
As of 2020, more men, even straight men, are becoming more comfortable with cosmetics, which is great, but this is an old ass episode. So you're right, I wouldn't trust this dude as far as I could throw him when it comes to manicures, nail polish formulas etc.
@@elizabethevenson6110 stop womansplaining
he's dumb as sh*t
The dragons den channel do more clickbait titles than the goat David Dobrik himself.
El Cucuy there’s only one solution: delete TH-cam
@@jezwc if you type youtube into youtube does it explode
Exactly
@@georginacat7667 And I oop-