Rude Property Entrepreneurs Infuriate The Dragons | Dragons' Den
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Richard Williams and Gil Ostrander from Realtor Network Ltd are next to face The Dragons...
They're seeking an investment of £50,000 in exchange for 20% of their real estate business.
Season 9, Episode 8
An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
#DragonsDen #RealEstate #BusinessPitch - บันเทิง
I think the walk up the stairs nearly finished one of them off 😂
Yeah I think they brought in the lift after this episode 😂
Right? He was almost dry heaving for the first five minutes
I was really concerned lol I was convinced he wouldn't finish the pitch!
Lol for real, they could've taken the elevator.
He’s just British
The minute he said "my turn?", his fate was sealed, and he was doomed to standing on the edge of his fishpond with rod in hand.
😂 facts 🎣
Completely, if someone in the street said that to me, I would turn away. No time for sarcasm in business!
@@x-Chicken-xless time for snowflakes emotions. go and cry on your mummys apron strings
I like the way he shut that case dwn
Beta to talk straight
Seriously not sure how Theo put up with that I would have kicked him out that very second
“I was involved in multi-level marketing” aka I narrowly avoided jail for running a pyramid scheme.
Seriously ignorant comment.
It’s probably a good idea to not be rude,smug and arrogant when asking people to give you money.
Ya think? 😂
Now that you mention it!
They're not giving money. They are taking it.
Ever seen a politician?
Worked for Nigel Farage
Duncan - "Whatever you do, I'm out" 🤣🤣 I love him
Erm eut*
Yeah this guy seems impossible to work with. Duncan's called it early.
Savage, and completely fair
Didn't get his point
Did he honestly unironically suggest that people are not buying houses?!
Before you start, I'm out - Jenny Campbell
I believe it's the first time when I watch Dragons Den without even understanding the business model.
I watched it like two times just to try and get what I was missing.
I have a vague idea that it is some MLM using realstate but...
Surprised none of them called the 'multi-level marketing' guy out for having been involved in selling pyramid schemes.
Because the dragons rather not be sued
@@bagofdoom7693 Why would they be sued? That is literally what multi-level marketing is.
@@bagofdoom7693 Sued for calling a spade a spade?
@@Thepopcornator because there is actually a difference between the two.
It's not the same, though it may feel the same. MLM is legal. Pyramid is not.
Avon are MLM. Bernie Madoff was pyramid.
"what's your experience"
"Multilevel marketing"
"What was the model"
"The model we're using"
"What happened"
"It failed"
"Why should i invest then"
"It's the people's fault not the business model"
It was the customers fault for not buying. This time we'll have better customers.
@@davidjames579😂😂😂
Never knew Colonel Sanders was in the property market.
Didn't you know he sells chicken coops 😆
It was originally called Kentucky Properties and Fried Chicken... Why doesn't anyone other than me remember the good old days of buying a 2 million dollar house and getting a free $20 bucket of chicken ?
John Hammond.
He doesn't he's been brown bread for years.
Colonel Sanders couldn’t even spell country correctly
"Commission only" is a code for crap wages. So I certainly wouldn't back them.
No, with commission only, there are no wages, crap or otherwise. You eat what you kill.
I’m a realtor in the States and I can’t imagine NOT being commission only.
@@awsumawstun I can't imagine it either, although not for the reasons you probably think.
Do you know what ‘only’ means?
@@awsumawstun How do you live?
I can't tell if he's nervous or out breath putting his sale sign up
Probably both. Quite the hefty fella.
It’s the stairs. That’s why they ended up putting the elevator in. People kept getting out of breath walking up them and going straight into the pitch
@@awsumawstun And for wheelchair users.
@@awsumawstun A normal person should'nt be out of breath from walking up the stairs.
He's a big fella about to do a nerve racking pitch which is broadcast on national telly with a clear nervous demeanour to him. Even if he wasn't a hefty lad I'd wager he'd be struggling regardless.
People often forget personality and the character of a businessman also plays a big part in whether someone should receive and investment or not.
The way he says “My turn” in a confrontational, Almost condescending manner, speaks volumes.
Eh, Theo or whoever it was had it coming. He made such a big deal about not wanting to be interrupted, or not wanting the sales guy to just start talking, he was in a lose-lose situation.
You know he left and gossiped that it was the Dragons who were arrogant and egotistical
to be fair they often are@@VladmirPoopN
Being rude to the Dragons then storming out? That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
I love this comment 👍 😂
Ah I love dodgeball
I can't recall him storming off??
@@bigkuriboh3814 at the end
Comment good right here! You win for me! I swear the comment section is half the entertainment of watching a YT vid
1:00. Had to smile when the first dude introduced his partner like he was Warren Buffett while said partner stood there actually glowing. It didn't get better
I love how smug and enigmatic gila stranda looked in the beginning, who would have thought he would turn into that combative character 😅
Right?! 😂
😂😂😂
That dude breathing heavy just standing there.
"built a business from multi level marketing"
I mean the proposal already sounded terrible, but then he said that at the end.... NOPE
"built a business from multi level marketing" - MLM, Which the FBI warns you not to get involved with
@@jasoncreighton5140 FBI? the government should just ban it outright instead of LE suggesting you don't join it.
"It's not the business model that failed. It's people... Businesses don't fail. Airplanes don't crash. Pilots crash airplanes. The people fail."
Wow, Gil - way to throw your business partner, who managed a failed business with your realtor method, under the bus.
I did a double-take when I heard that because I honestly thought for a second that it was The Donald speaking
@@Fyreflier I hope your TDS can get better
@@salemkid1979 "Everyone who dislikes my cult leader is mentally ill" 🤓
Not to mention it's the same "people" so it will fail again, so he shot himself in the foot there with that logic but considering he took a 12 gage in his mouth with his attitude, that didn't matter
also even that analogy is bs. sometimes mechanical parts of planes suddenly break, very rarely of course (even rarer assuming it was a problem no one knew about or could’ve prevented). not every plane crash has a person at fault, and some planes are just built poorly or an airline is mismanaged so they’re setting their pilots up for failure
1:00 Guys I think you all underestimate who you're talking about, this is THE Gil Ostrander. Show some respect.
The realtor business model in the USA these two scam artists describe is absolutely the worst. I know from first hand experience.
yooo, wake up, tell us how it differs pls :)
In USA realtors charge 6% of the value of your house. So 60,000 for 1,000,000 house.
@@mikema4896Exactly. So the sale of a single house can set you up for a whole year basically. And sell enough houses, and you’re set for life. The problem with the model presented was that it provided a truly paltry amount of commission, was going into a stagnant market, and was culturally insensitive to consumers and potential employees.
Their business went belly up in Dec '21 for those wondering how it went (according to company house) I guess it was because of bad people.
That Gil fella died in 2018
@@usernameloading4695dragons had him whacked
@@usernameloading4695 good
Gil died in 2018. seemed to be involved in a Mgmt Training co he setup in Germany for yrs beforehand
@@jdjd9935Peter was a made guy and Richard wasn't.
Multi level marketing? So the guy ran a pyramid scheme lmao.
Laughable ! He is a twit
peter's analysis, in such a short time, is really impressive.
keep in mind this is TV. they likely know what the business is before its pitched, and there are likely to be other experts involved who do a lot of the analysis and come up with the questions beforehand.
Peter is a genius that’s why
Indeed, they were cained like dogs
This is edited down from probably 45 minutes of raw footage. Not saying it isn’t impressive, but do not be misled.
@@thesnackbandit Heard on a pod with one of the dragons that its about 1,5-3h per pitch with breaks and recounting and fact checking etc etc. They do 2-3 pitches per day apparently.
“I failed at other pyramid schemes, so I joined a different one.”
Ladies and gents, to your right you’ll see a scammer and to your left you’ll see his mark.
I really loved Hilary. She was sharp and to the point. But she was always fair and wise
Agreed
RIP to a real gem.
I really missed her in the Den. RIP to a great entrepreneur.
She looks like a villain
@@CabbageYe He*
No shocker that the only strategy the MLM guy knows is trying to talk over people and be a generally rude person.
Would have liked to see their remarks after this disastrous pitch. Old boy sure doesn’t like being questioned !!
There's probably a reason why they didn't show them!
He is a scammer and he got called out on national TV about their scams, so I guess it hurt his pride his feelings
He's a very private man. Spendiing all those years hiding his secret recipe for his fried chicken has done that to him.
@@cambs0181 😂😂😂😂
@@cambs0181 Genius.
The way these dragons dealt with potential conflict with these odious characters, by giving it silence and space, was an absolute masterclass in letting a fool dig his own grave.
Bravo all round!
When [he] interrupted and said “ok well neither was I but go ahead” followed by “my turn”, I truly thought he was going to get destroyed by the dragons. Instead I learned a valuable lesson-never give people a taste of their own medicine...because they already know what it tastes like. The composure of the dragons, and the humility within their responses; they didn’t need to rip him apart because they destroyed him with intelligence, eloquence and manner. Their humbleness is truly inspiring. I guess that’s how they became dragons in the first place...
That's why I watch the show.
Just because they are rich they want to insult people. Same with Gordon Ramsay. Why shouldn't someone be rude to them? If I meet you and you are rude to me, then why shouldn't I be rude in return?
@@vikvegas8593 Absolutely not. Two wrongs don't make a right
in this instance they did pretty well. But make no mistake, there are plenty of moments where all the dragons (especially peter and theo) behaved very poorly
I agree, but the dragons really don’t always do that. This was somewhat of an exception.
Richard: "I was involved in multi-level marketing..."
Me: "I'm out!"
I didn't understand what they were offering, but if I were a dragon I would have struggled to work with the two people.
Did anyone else think 'Gil Ostrander' was a one word first name, like some badass medieval knight
Or a villian
Yeah I did 😂
Me too. 😂
Dishonest people are always on the defence and get rude when their corruption is exposed.
RIP Hilary , my fav Dragon 🕊️
And Gil 😢
She can't take it with her
T shaped coffin.
Commission only jobs always brought out the worst behaviour in the worst people. That’s why in the USA they still exist and here they don’t
And its not an stable job either
Are car salesman in Europe salary?
@@millys4368 yes
they do exist here
So why are British ppl still terrible?
I love Hilary short and straight to the point ❤
rip
She had more integrity than most all of the DenSharks. RIP good lady.
I didn’t know she died, 65 is young these days, rip
She was a great addition to the Den, RIP.
She's dead now
I always love the banter between Theo and Peter
Duncan's typical response is , "I dont understand the product, i dont get the product and i dont get you - im out"
Selling houses? Why those are just a couple pieces of wood with a door handle strapped to the front. I'm oot
He's often quick
0:14 My brain: "plos"
Also my brain: "Wait a minute, that can't be "plos", dude."
My brain (again): "PLOS"
I wouldn't trust either of them to sell a house for me tbh.
0:49 how do you turn up for an investment pitch with a f***ing typo 🤦♂️
Something about Hilary that I always liked. There has been no dragon before or since like her, complete one off. I miss her on the show.
may she rest in peace
Peace 🤦♀️ if you’re gonna wish someone farewell have the respect to spell it right at least. Piece sounds like she was dismembered…
@@hannahcorinne5388 whoops
@@hannahcorinne5388 It's 2023. Last two Gens couldn't care less.
@@kevindunlap5525 the deadbeat boomers have arrived!
I love how he is called Dunkan Valentine in the video description
John Hammond has really fallen from grace ever since his island burned down.
Wasn't he dead before that happened?
Spared no expense!
@@elloowu6293That's what the government WANTS you to think
Very argumentative little guy. Makes for good entertainment though.
3:36 the slow zoom with the music after Peter’s comment, hahah. I can’t stop replaying it
I was a business reporter and when I'd interview people like this, the first tell was always defensiveness and indiignation in response to an incisive question.
@1:18 the sign says "counrty".
🤣
wow. would have been funny if the dragons brought it up.
“Cunty”
What a combative little gnome. Did he think he was there to fight real dragons?
LMFAOO0
Brilliant description, combative little gnome hahahaha
This comment deserves thousands of likes!!!
Not my perception.
I think the Dragons were afraid that he knew more about real estate than they did.
@@happyuk06 No. He was just plain rude (4:14-4:42 and 5:28-6:22). That is what they didn't like. Impossible to do business with a gentleman like that.
RIP Hillary 🙏 ❤️🔥
God bless her soul ❤️
I sense that I've missed an important bit of news somewhere.
@@HESHRocketWarhead Oh hun she sadly passed on the 11th of June in her home in Morocco 2022
@@darcyreece940 Bitch'm! Natural causes?
Rip Duncan xo
My man was really fighting for this life during that pitch
He dug his own grave and jumped in it with both feet 😂
It's so convoluted I need a drink after listening to these two. Also Gil talks! Who would've thought!
First show I ever watched and didn't understand what was on offer. Either way, these guys were combative than convincing.
Yeah I didn't get it either.
I'm not sure, but I think he was offering them a ham sandwich.
Debara: “I don’t like the way your wig is sewed in, & for that reason I’m out.”
🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Please someone get this guy some oxygen ASAP I couldn't help but be extremely worried about him the entire pitch!!!!!!
You could see the alarm bells ringing in Peter Jones' head from the first minute they mentioned 'straight commission model' and 'active sales force'.
Bad idea to anger people who can give you lots of money.
“I was involved in multi level marketing” ah, so you were a professional scammer?
10:35 I'd love to know where he got the "pilot error" stat. I'm not going to look it up, but I watch enough Mentour Pilot videos to know that planes often present the pilot with issues that the pilot is forced to resolve, not the other way around.
True, but a lot of accidents also happens because of human error. I saw one episode where the guy who refilled the fuel on the airplane confused metric and imperial measuring system. Luckily the pilot managed to glide the airplane to an airport without engines. Another accident that ended up fatal, the pilots misunderstood the numbers on the flight plan leading them to fly half the journey in the wrong direction which ended with them going empty on fuel in the middle of nowhere and crash.
He sounds like he was about to drop dead while delivering his pitch
“Pilots crash planes, technical faults only account for 1% of aviation accidents.” Spontaneous bullish!t at its best.
Yep he was making up statistics pilot error accounts for about 53% of aviation accidents. Human error which includes pilots, mechanics and ATC is responsible for 80% of aviation accidents.
100% of Statistics are made up on the spot.
At those sorts of figures the sales force would have to sell a few places a day to just wash their faces in terms of a salary
Those 2 felt like a bit from a show in an alternate universe, like Pinky and the Brain
No….pinky and perky.
6:24 why is this sooooo funny haha the way he keeps looking at him in shock like he is saying: how dare you? lol
That was quite uncomfortable. I was half expecting Theo to get up and slap him about a bit.
What about poor Peter Jones?
Love that bit from Theo
10:09 the absolute highlight. Dying.
Gil looks like he should be bilking his congregation out of millions of dollars.
And Richard sounds so nervous that he's about to be turned down by his potential prom date.
10:27 Today i learned that airplanes are the perfect machine: they have never suffered ANY mechanical issues in their 100+ year history and are impervious to outside forces like weather. Incredible. The more you know.
"30 guys doing that everyday" ... Except that wouldn't happen. Estate agent offices boast about selling a couple hundred houses a year in their extremely small territories.
These video chapters are hilarious!
The pitch couldnt have gone worse if they put up red flags instead of sales boards.
imagine asking for that much money from someone then being rude to them about it
"I used to sell snakeoil then i started a vitamin company which went bankrupt. Anyhow would you like invest in my new vitamin company?"
Touker would have been interested if these estate agents were listing prime London office spaces instead
Too true.
No, they'd be competition.
Realtors / Estate Agents in a nutshell right there 😂
Peter Jones made it very clear the reasons why it would not work.
A weasel and a fox walk into the Dragon's Den - it goes about how you'd expect.
That guy couldn't convince me water was wet if I doubted it for a second, so I don't know how he managed to run MLM in any capacity.
Okg that first guy could hardly talk with being out of breath climbing those stairs 😂
The silence @4:56 lol. They're all like, 'You messed up'
I didn't think they were hugely rude, they're just the sort of people who stop you at the supermarket and badger you into signing on with some dodgy energy company.
That is hugely rude.
Long hand for "they're not hugely rude just mid tier rude"
Did anyone else notice the spelling cockup on the P Jones sign? Town and Counrty
Nah one the guys was speaking breath language 😂 man was scared
lmao the way every single dragon went totally silent and let him stew in the awkwardness after he said "my turn?"
By the sound of the first man's lungs, he won't be around long enough to seal any deal.
Rude Property Entrepreneurs is our new band name
No, if a plane fails because of a mechanical problem it is the mechanics (or maybe the parts manufacturers) fault.
He would say that's more of human error.
@@machtnichtsseimann true, but either way not the pilots fault
@@Questionable_creations - Splitting hairs.
@@machtnichtsseimann It's not splitting hairs when the guy literally said "pilots crash airplanes". Calling it out is valid.
@@SuigaRou - It's splitting hairs over to what infinitesimal degree we are now dissecting where "human error" is at play. Focus on Col. Sanders' mindset / analogy and you'll get what my point was. Unless you want to get lost in the weeds on distracting minutiae.
I'm sure I heard Jenny's voice in the background saying "Don't come knocking on my door. I'm out!"
They’re selling Jenny’s house for her because she’s always out
Jenny is not in this video. Please stop the Jenny jokes for once, they're getting boring and unfunny
@@MrBooBeeDoo jenny is not in this video is because she's out
@@MrBooBeeDoo I’ll make like Jenny then and see myself out
Unless you’re already rich and famous, being obnoxious usually doesn’t get you very far in life .. 🤷♀️
The multi-level guy was in a diet scheme and it failed miserably when he tried to sell it
the stairs knackered him out
To be fair I think their sign is very common looks just like any real estate sign hanging in dodgy areas for ages 😁
They're not realtors, and they're not actual real estate signs, genius.
And not one person has caught the egregious spelling error.
@@kevindunlap5525 yup, glaring, it's what we up here in Scotland call a cow, totally distracted me from the pitch
I have to say I love the Dragons Den so, I follow it like a bloodhound. Looking at the Dragons I reckon this episode was many years back. today 23/01/23. Those contestants were having a laugh! could not be for real.
Blooming cheek! My dad was an airline pilot and didn’t think like this
why they breathing soooo loud 🤣🤣🤣🤣
too much McDonalds probably.
This should be a comedy show 😂
Isn't it already?😂
They did not stay "remarkably composed" XD
I thought that was Colonel Sanders there for a minute. Duncan Pantomime CHICKENED OUT yet again.
What did they need the money for? The business that they had envisioned could be built by bootstrapping the business.
I thought this Gill m’fer was gonna be revealed to not be able to speak. But then he just starts talking halfway through his speech and never stops.
What an utter gronk! To just make his partner (who was clearly stressed) glow him up for half the pitch 🤣🤣
"Gronk"?
@@andrewvelonis5940 Its Aussie slang for an unintelligent and callous person
@@DakanMisty how is life in Australia it is worth to come live/work? From videos I watch it looks kinda chill country.
@@halfromeo8019 if you could be swayed by a youtube comment on whether to come here, dont 🤣
@@halfromeo8019 I'm not the guy to ask, my aussie friend from which I learned "Gronk" wouldn't recommend it though 😂