I have never met anyone who has said they wanted McAfee Antivirus. It's slow, doesn't stop everything, and slowly becoming obsolete. Even the uninstaller sucks.
And a total pain in the arse if you happen to be in possession of one. For one thing, you'll have to discard the whole system; should the motherboard dies or pay a hefty premium for a replacement, which costs almost as much as the whole system itself (I'm not being dramatic here!). You can't just go out and drop any ATX/ITX mobo in there, thanks to proprietary front I/O and power connectors, not to mention the non-ATX dimensions of the board itself. I've an old Optiplex and buying it was the WORST decision I've ever made.
It helps me provide recommendations to people who don't know how to build a PC who I can't build a PC for also helps see which ones have the most standard components.
They're not fun by any means, all of them are the same, some cheap motherboard, likely with proprietary connectors, because why not and a power supply that doesn't offer much of an upgrade path at all other than a low power gpu and a couple of hard drives.
And funily enough the proprietary connectors change quite often making it harder to find an adaptor cable online if you ever want to consider getting anything better than a 1050 ti or 1650
I remember trying to install a GPU in my uncle's Dell Inspiron 620 only to find out in the Dell fourm that the PCI-E slots are disabled from the factory and the options to enable it is removed in the BIOS......
I purchased a used 620 and must’ve had the option enabled as it had no gpu on purchased, but a hd7750 fitted and worked no problem without anything needed doing and now it has a gtx 760 which works spot on, obviously this upgrade required a psu swap. I3 2100 swapped to i5 2400 and with the gtx 760 makes a pretty good gaming machine
I built my current rig about a year ago. All from Members Markets on forums. 8700k, 1080, 32gb 3600Mhz, 1tb WD black nvme, custom loop etc. Cost me about twice as much as this pre-built. For me this demonstrates just how much value a second-hand, self-built machine can provide. I know building a computer can be intimidating to some, but there's some great communities out there to offer support, and you really can get so much more for your money. Plus it can be a life long hobby, with plenty of areas to move into, from modding, to overclocking and full custom loops. Of all the sports and hobbies I've had over the years, PCs is the one I've loved most, and always done. I'd have liked to see this video provide a comparison with a used build, with benchmarks etc That said, good video mate, thanks 👍
jackthegamer Yep or price matching. I bought an Asus M32CD prebuilt (price matched with Amazon and got a bit of the difference back) with a Core i7 6700, 16 GB of RAM, 2 TB 7200 RPM drive. I eventually swapped out the R9 370 card it came with, replaced it with a GTX 1060 and I also got an SSD to replace the hard drive. I spent about the same as I would have had I built a comparable system. In fact, probably a little more as the GTX 1060 price skyrocketed and the price for DDR4 RAM was also still high.
... Especially when bought used, preferably from a company that does hardware refresh cycles every few years. They put mass quantities of usually fairly gently used PCs up for sale way earlier in their lifecycle than most consumers would. The only downsides are you usually get them with the hard disk removed, and the power supply usually needs an upgrade to support a GPU that isn't a GTX 1050 Ti. Used Optiplex + SSD + PSU + GPU ends up being one of the most cost effective ways to get a midrange gaming PC.
A tip: These laptop-style slim optical drives can be replaced with an "ODD-adapter". It essentially lets you install a regular 2.5'' drive (SSD or HDD) in an adapter that looks like a slim optical drive. A great way of adding more drives to a system with limited expandability.
I recently bought an Inspiron 3671 with the i5-9400, 12 gbs of ram, and 1 tb hdd configuration. When I took off the side panel, I was actually greeted by a Seagate Barracuda which sort of shocked me because I was expecting an unlabeled Toshiba hdd or something similar. My start-up time is closer to 20-30 seconds, which doesn't bother me all that much but I am still considering taking advantage of the m.2 slot. I purchased the computer during a cyber Monday flash deal where the machine was marked down to $429 USD from $649 USD. So far I am quite satisfied with my purchase, but we'll see if that changes in the long run.
i hesitated when opening up my prebuilt pc to move cases. the amount of courage i had to build up to start taking it out was immeasurable. if you're too nervous to build your own pc, it doesn't hurt to sit there, staring, building up confidence to finally put it together.
One of my older rigs is a Dell with an i7 4790 that I upgraded the ram to Kingston HyperX 8x2 memory, Kingston SSD and a GTX 970 as well as a 850 watt Thermaltake Black Widow PSU. It's been a GREAT project PC!
In Turkey preassembled pc's are very popular. Turkish tech youtubers quite oftenly make deals with retailers for better price for their audience and systems are sold with their channel's name.
I became interested in PC’s back in 1996 and right away decided to build my own. By 2001 I was the main engineer for a local PC repair business, by 2004 I was running my own PC (and other electronic devices) repair business...I bought my first pre-built PC just a few months ago (23 years after joining the PC master race) a used DELL T1650, and it’s fu*king brilliant! It’s solidly built, quiet, fast (no overclocking options unfortunately) and appears to have all standard connections on the board (even front panel) I don’t regret the decision at all!
I've had many Dell desktop PC's in my possession over the years, oddly I found the #1 failure was the PSU's. Mostly bad caps in the output stage causing the PC's to become unstable. I think I've seen a few boards with bad caps as well.
just set one up early this month, its decent, it was specced as having an i5 9500 and 256gb nvme ssd, it came with the 9400 and a 2.5" sata ssd instead, close enough whatever... an old 2017 build of windows 10, 1709, which required upgrading after turning it on. only real problem was dell's latest approved/enforced intel gfx driver kept crashing the system, and then side stepping dell to install new functioning intel graphics drivers. build option was shot down, only requirement was it had a disc drive because it was a necessity.
I used a Dell Vostro at home for years during a hiatus in computer gaming. C2D 2.9ghz, 2gb DDR3, and a GT 220 added up to a pretty tame computing experience, but it came with a 22" 1080p monitor that I'm still using roughly a decade later. I have to say though, I prefer Dell stuff from that era because it used a standard mATX case, ATX power supply, the front panel connectors are standard, and the case came with an I/O shield. If nothing else, the cases are compatible with standard stuff for future builds, or you could put a better PSU from anyone in there for graphics cards or more drives.
As long as you’re reviewing, for the most part, PCs and pc related stuff, talking about the cpu and benchmarking, I welcome the pre-built review series idea. But don’t feel like you need to overwork. It’s Christmas break :D Also very interesting video. Merry Xmas and happy New Year.
I live in Argentina. Back in 2017 I bought my first decent PC and it was a prebuilt. It costed $250 USD back then (7500 ARS). It was a G4400, GTX 1050, 4GB DDR4, H110M, WD 1TB, with Sentey case and PSU, and it also included a mouse and keyboard. Searching for individual parts, this was definitely cheaper. Now I'm about to finally get an I3-9100F and a H310M together with a new PSU; the second upgrade since I added another 4GB.
Pre-Built Desktop PC's are a good buy when the are at least 4 year old, HP, Dell, Fujitsu and so on. I bought the last 3 years around 70 of those, 40 euro a piece and plenty of live in them. Just at some memory and a SSD, ideal for the company with not a lot to spend. The investment fund available can go to better parts to be competitive. 50 HP, 9 Dell, one Fujitsu, one Samsung and 4 Toshiba, the rest I forgot.
I remember I was stuck with a Dell prebuilt from 2001 for 5 years up until this Christmas,I remember even CS source would cause the computer to lag. Thank God for this new computer I have
I use to love Dell computers until I've had more than a few go belly up shortly after their warranty expired. I haven't had much luck with other Windows based laptops so I'm not putting Dell down. So far my current desktop, a Hewlett-Packard refurbished model from Sun Systems, has fared well, but I haven't used it in a while and the last time I turned it on it seemed perfectly fine. The last laptop I bought is running like a top, but it's a refurbished Samsung Chromebook. And I'm waiting for my first Apple laptop experience. The 2010 13" Unibody MacBook I bought from a seller on eBay. Im sure it's a refurbished unit, but it has a 1 year warranty included. I planned to make a review on my channel for it. I'm also certain my 49 subscribers would be looking forward to seeing it.
Had to talk my parents out of buying a prebuilt and letting me build one for them. Build was around the same price for 4x the storage, including m.2, 2x the ram, 2x the threads and a great/simple upgrade path. For general use PCs, I'd definitely look in the used market first though
Good idea for a video, many people start with prebuilt PCs and don’t always know what’s to look for, in terms of future proofing possibilities. Good work!
I have upgraded a 6th gen version of this PC that oddly enough had ddr3 memory. I ended up selling it, but it was an amazing little system. I picked it up used for about 200ish and it had an i5 6400 I believe. I did all kinda of upgrades to that system. For a while I even had an i7 6700, 16gb of ram and a gtx 1050ti in it. Eventually I downgraded it back to the i5, upgraded the ram, put the 1050ti in it and sold it. Great little PC and a good buy in the used market. Easy to work in. Upgrades were limited, but easy to do and sometimes fairly affordable.
Just a headsup, you can install two additional ssds if you get one of those sata power splitters. Did that to my dad's lenovo and it runs like a champ.
@@Brandon-uy1uv why bother with all of that when there's 2 additional data ports for sata behind the 2 populated ones, and get one measly cable that's common with most dells for a few years now and dirt cheap and you keep your optical drive
Another upgrade option with the M.2 slot is to put in an Intel Optane kit. They're not good value compared to SSD's, but I asked my boss to put one in my work machine (which is a Dell prebuilt with an HDD boot drive), and it makes the machine feel close to as snappy as an SSD without having to reinstall Windows or mess with anything.
If all you need is a system for simple office type work and browsing.. it's very hard to beat a low end dell if it's on a special. For that use case the OEM budget models when on sale are often below retail costs of the parts so you literally can't build it for less in those cases.
I recently purchased a pre-built PC that included a Core i7 9700K, ASRock Z390 motherboard, Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition, 16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, 512 GB Intel 660p SSD, Lian Li 205 tempered glass case, 600W Cooler Master 80Plus PSU, and Windows 10 Pro for $720 + tax. The parts alone would have cost at least that much, and when you factor in the operating system, the pre-built comes out well ahead. All I had to do was transplant the GPU from the computer I was replacing.
Yeah I'd like to see some mid to high end pre built pc reviews...love all ur videos to be honest.... that being said do you think you could do a video on the intel core i3 3220 I know u probably get questions like this all the time, and for that I'm sorry. But I just got one and u haven't done a video yet. Ur my favorite channel to watch when it comes to older pc hardware, and thus this would be an amazing video for me to watch... Just an idea please do it... P.S. good luck with the COPPA stuff
Honestly sometimes I get more excited looking at prebuilts when I am pc part/system hunting. People sometimes upgrade parts inside of them and make them very interesting to go through. Heck just recently I took a 2010 - 2012 HP prebuilt small mini atx and placed an older single slot radeon card and upgraded the PSU to a EVGA 500 W for Windows XP 32 Bit and it is pretty good so far. some of the 2009 - 2013 prebuilts make excellent older windows rigs.
I agree, I still use optical discs, hate to see them leaving. One thing I use my PC's ODD for is burning photos to a playable DVD (on DVD players). Yes I'm an old fashioned 17 year old.
@@Scooter30FTW Nothing is wrong with USB flash drives, they are an amazing innovation especially in their capacities and data access speeds. However, floppies, zip disks, and other legacy technologies have very unique qualities that USB drives do not such certain sound profiles and how they are put into the machine.
8:18 I know u can click the mouse wheel button and move the curser to get the smoothest page scroll ever. Seems kinda like u were manually doing it. My bad if it’s just lag or something.
Most stuff I repair resell and what not are pre builds and put together so cheaply and just bad, I do like how Dell actually puts some thought into there builds
It would be helpful to list the exact model of the PC in the title or description for us who like to research. Nothing wrong with showcasing prebuilts at all man, thanks for the video.
Don't forget when you're speccing a home built machine to include the cost of Windows. Notice you didn't in your list and that will bump the cost up to above the Dell's price (it'll still be a way more powerful machine than the Dell, I know). Had to do a low cost spec for a friend recently and because he didn't have an old Windows 7/8/10 licence to reuse, and wasn't happy with licenses from eBay, the £110+ for Windows really upped the total cost. For the record, love the channel and your presentation style is perfect.
Doesn't always work though, I've tried it a bunch of times and kept failing so I just gave up on it. Kept not copying it correctly, I think it does it correctly about 10-20% of the time, it does work since I did copy a bunch of hdds with it but it's a pretty bad program and a pain in the ass, it's better to install a new win unless you have important stuff you could only access from that boot in that hdd
@@tilburg8683 I've copied the C: partition of my personal rig several times to other drives (Including an SSD) and it worked just fine. No errors whatsoever
@@AlvaroLR I dunno, works about half of the time in some old PC I sometimes still use for some stuff and never really worked on my main PC, I just installed a new windows. But a lot of times when I use that hdd to start the PC I'll get some error and I'll have to try again
@@AlvaroLR shouldn't be I used it on like 4 different once and most of them seem to run fine 1 is kinda odd but it's still working. Did you do it recently or a while ago? I did it like 2/3 weeks ago.
Dell: "we dont use normal form factors or connectors, why? Oh because we love you of course" Also that's extremely expensive for just an i3 and 8gbs of ram
I just payed around 400 for a 2700x with a real mainboard and 32gb of 3200 RAM. These prebuilts are filled with cheapo components on top of being a bad value.
That laptop optical drive is smart. If brands like Corsair and other case manufacturerers made space for some sleek looking optical drive like that i would probably get one.
It's not awful, you mentioned not being able to add another drive, while you are right, adding one would only take a sata splitter and a sata cable, of course you'd also have to find somewhere to put it though! I could see someone being happy with this system running an sdd with a 1650. Looks like the spec sheet says 300w psu should work, 290 would be pushing it but i bet it would be fine.
I gave up on Dell 10 years ago due to their customer service getting increasingly poor. They hung up on me when I asked them how I can get my system (a Dell Studio XPS 9100) to take advantage of my newly installed RAM. I ended up pulling that system apart and building my own custom system. It performed better than the prebuilt I had. I decided from that moment forward that never again will I buy another prebuilt computer. As I have built three custom computers in the past, I'm happy to build my own.
You can see the spot marked "2280". Move the standoff from the 2230 spot to that 2280 spot. Then you can mount the very common 2280 size nvme drives. Although it doesn't look like a screw is pre-installed with that stand off so you need to get a screw to actually mount the drive.
Haven't had any complaints with my Dell 7010, i7 3770, 16GB Ram, 500GB SSD, 4TB HDD, and a GTX 1050. Does everything I need it to do, and does it well.
The problem isn't SATA ports. It's the power connectors. You only get one standard sata power connector. The power connector the dvd drive uses can't be used without an adapter of some kind and can't power anything that requires 12 volts.
This is very intriguing because I didn't expect much from pre-built PCs but this one ain't so bad for a start-up budget PC with decent upgradability. Personally I'd still opt for just building my own as you can get better hardware for about the same or less the price vs pre-builts. Very entertaining video, man. Keep it up you're doing great! Also be careful about that bird looks like its stalking you.
I bought a prebuilt early on to get my foot in the door of pc gaming. I spent $1500 on a system probably worth about $1200 at the time during the mining craze or even $900ish now. For my 1500 in late 2017 I got an I7-8700k, gtx 1080, 16gb of ddr4, and a 2tb hdd. Since then I've added 16gb of ram, and added a sata ssd as a boot drive.
Uh, I just remembered my brothers first PC. Was a Dell Dimension, around 15 yrs ago. Had a Pentium with HT, I still have this chip lying around. It could play AoE 2, more wasn't needed. It wasn't cheap, but at that time Dell offered a better value than others.
I personally don't think an internal optical drive is really necessary when you can get a USB-attached one for about £20--for the rare occasions when you actually need one then that gives you the option, and it's not like the USB bandwidth limitations are going to be a problem even for a DVD drive.
could you do a video regarding your opinion on the i7 9700k? its performance/price now, future potential and general thoughts. You dont necesarily have to buy one, but maybe do a video about different CPUs, etc.
6:02 it's a bit weird to be honest seeing the pc taking so long to boot up, my 500gb seagate 7200rpm which came with my optiplex 7010 boots up windows in 20 seconds, including log in time, while not as fast as an ssd it doesn't take that long
Brilliant video, and the following is not a gripe, or criticism BUT any chance you could talk more about the motherboard next time you do a prebuilt. It would have been great to hear what chipset it uses etc. Thanks :)
i wonder if this might be power contraint, because there is no way a sandy bridge i5 should be on par with this. just as many cores, higher IPc and higher clocks all around. what were the clocks during cinebench?
I have checked a few times when I bought a new computer and I could never build my own cheaper and every time I've checked it would be more expensive than a prebuilt PC. Also if you build it yourself you have a problem with technical support and warranty. I think it would be a lot of fun to build a computer but I could never justify the cost and the hassles that I might run into after it was built.
Some prebuilt PCs are genuinely great, especially so if you can pick one up in a good sale or used. last-gen Optiplex & XPS towers make really good little project machines! At base retail price though? Most can safely get a hard pass.
I got the Inspiron Small Desktop on sale for $279 on Black Friday and upgraded it myself for a $330 shipped: i3 9100 128 GB Boot M.2 SSD + 1 TB HDD 12 GB 2400 MHz DDR4 Not half bad for a non-gaming PC.
Couple of pros on pre-builts: Windows is included already. Tech support and warranty. Sure you can sail the seas or say that all components have their own warranties, but buying a Pre built means you don't have to figure out for yourself what failed. Call tech support, they'll have you do some test and whatever needs to be replaced can be replaced in warranty.
I enjoyed watching this. Please keep doing them. I feel prebuilts are a great way to get into the pc building hobby. As mentioned, a few upgrades here and before you know it you’re looking for whole new parts for a new build.
Could you not use a SATA Power Y-Splitter cable to give power to an SSD as I think I can see 2 unused SATA ports on the motherboard. I've done this for all of our work Optiplex PCs.
Would love to see this system with a 750ti, 950, 1050ti, or 1650ti just to get an idea of what you can drop in. A 290w is probably enough for a drop in PCIE power only GPU.
I think these videos are fine but it would be cool to also show some older prebuilt systems that could compare for less or are better for similar. Also maybe some build guides. Like choose a modern prebuilt then do a series where you show some options that would be better at cost or same at less. Etc.
Can you actually put a gfx card in the case without modding it? The slots look quite a way away from the back plates because of the strange case layout at the back...
I have never met anyone who has said they wanted McAfee Antivirus. It's slow, doesn't stop everything, and slowly becoming obsolete. Even the uninstaller sucks.
*doeSn't stop ANYTHING*
I'm not sure if it even did anything back in the day. Got to respect John mcafee for what he managed yo do though lol
@Δ to be fair protogent is probably better than McAfee
@Δ I'm just yanking your chain, I'm sure McAfee is alright
It nearly let a virus on my laptop because it ran out and refused to deactivate
I say please keep reviewing prebuilts: they're fun with all the custom parts inside.
lol, ive literally never found that to be "funny" unless it isnt mine
And a total pain in the arse if you happen to be in possession of one.
For one thing, you'll have to discard the whole system; should the motherboard dies or pay a hefty premium for a replacement, which costs almost as much as the whole system itself (I'm not being dramatic here!). You can't just go out and drop any ATX/ITX mobo in there, thanks to proprietary front I/O and power connectors, not to mention the non-ATX dimensions of the board itself.
I've an old Optiplex and buying it was the WORST decision I've ever made.
It helps me provide recommendations to people who don't know how to build a PC who I can't build a PC for also helps see which ones have the most standard components.
They're not fun by any means, all of them are the same, some cheap motherboard, likely with proprietary connectors, because why not and a power supply that doesn't offer much of an upgrade path at all other than a low power gpu and a couple of hard drives.
And funily enough the proprietary connectors change quite often making it harder to find an adaptor cable online if you ever want to consider getting anything better than a 1050 ti or 1650
I remember trying to install a GPU in my uncle's Dell Inspiron 620 only to find out in the Dell fourm that the PCI-E slots are disabled from the factory and the options to enable it is removed in the BIOS......
HAHA
dell classic artificial limits to screw customers
Wait? Which inspiron 620? Because I find online that you can install a gpu in that system?
Why though?
I purchased a used 620 and must’ve had the option enabled as it had no gpu on purchased, but a hd7750 fitted and worked no problem without anything needed doing and now it has a gtx 760 which works spot on, obviously this upgrade required a psu swap. I3 2100 swapped to i5 2400 and with the gtx 760 makes a pretty good gaming machine
I remember my first Dell pre-build: It was 2010 or 2011. It used an AMD Athlon x2, a GTS 450 and 3gb or 4gb of ram. Now it is used in a garage.
As a chock?
Can i have it?
i too use my pc as a substitute car
@@cosminlazar01 scuze frate, este in uz
Tax-fraud-o-saurus why should you deserve it
I built my current rig about a year ago. All from Members Markets on forums.
8700k, 1080, 32gb 3600Mhz, 1tb WD black nvme, custom loop etc. Cost me about twice as much as this pre-built.
For me this demonstrates just how much value a second-hand, self-built machine can provide.
I know building a computer can be intimidating to some, but there's some great communities out there to offer support, and you really can get so much more for your money. Plus it can be a life long hobby, with plenty of areas to move into, from modding, to overclocking and full custom loops.
Of all the sports and hobbies I've had over the years, PCs is the one I've loved most, and always done.
I'd have liked to see this video provide a comparison with a used build, with benchmarks etc
That said, good video mate, thanks 👍
My main rig is an older Dell Optiplex 7010 with an i7 3770, 16gb of ram, and an MSI RX570 with 8gb of vram
That's pretty good, should hold up for a few more years I think.
Similar to me except an RX580 and the 9010 version. Still doing well for my uses.
Your Dell is newer and more powerful than my Dell. I need an phenom x6, 6 sticks of 2gb of DDR2 memory, and my stolen Rx 5700 to compete with you.
@Leevi Leinonen I regret I got my Dell on AMD
Hell yeah grabbing an optiplex, a psu and a gpu and you'll have a great rig. Maybe ssd too
This guy recording footage at 3 in the morning lol
He might not have the clock set correctly if it's a new PC.
12 hour clock
Lesharkie Albatross if you’re not up at 3am your life is probably going well and you’re not haunted by demons.
It throws the seagulls off his trail.
@@maaz451 Nope, that's the 24 hour clock for sure, it's missing the am/pm
Keep in mind, sometimes prebuilts can be cheaper, especially when on sale.
Keep in mind, sometimes pc parts can be cheaper, especially when on sale
jackthegamer Yep or price matching. I bought an Asus M32CD prebuilt (price matched with Amazon and got a bit of the difference back) with a Core i7 6700, 16 GB of RAM, 2 TB 7200 RPM drive. I eventually swapped out the R9 370 card it came with, replaced it with a GTX 1060 and I also got an SSD to replace the hard drive. I spent about the same as I would have had I built a comparable system. In fact, probably a little more as the GTX 1060 price skyrocketed and the price for DDR4 RAM was also still high.
Let's not forget the graphics card mess from 2017 to early 2018. It was NOT cheaper to build your own then, especially when RAM was high, too!
Or second hand by people who know nothing ab pcs
... Especially when bought used, preferably from a company that does hardware refresh cycles every few years. They put mass quantities of usually fairly gently used PCs up for sale way earlier in their lifecycle than most consumers would. The only downsides are you usually get them with the hard disk removed, and the power supply usually needs an upgrade to support a GPU that isn't a GTX 1050 Ti.
Used Optiplex + SSD + PSU + GPU ends up being one of the most cost effective ways to get a midrange gaming PC.
A tip: These laptop-style slim optical drives can be replaced with an "ODD-adapter". It essentially lets you install a regular 2.5'' drive (SSD or HDD) in an adapter that looks like a slim optical drive. A great way of adding more drives to a system with limited expandability.
If putting in an SSD, just use some double sided tape and stick it anywhere.
3:52 for a split second I thought this was on the integrated graphics and about jumped out of my chair
lmao
I recently bought an Inspiron 3671 with the i5-9400, 12 gbs of ram, and 1 tb hdd configuration. When I took off the side panel, I was actually greeted by a Seagate Barracuda which sort of shocked me because I was expecting an unlabeled Toshiba hdd or something similar. My start-up time is closer to 20-30 seconds, which doesn't bother me all that much but I am still considering taking advantage of the m.2 slot. I purchased the computer during a cyber Monday flash deal where the machine was marked down to $429 USD from $649 USD. So far I am quite satisfied with my purchase, but we'll see if that changes in the long run.
7:42 l though my pc blue screened lol.
One of the most chill youtubers I have seen. Has perfec voice and jokes lol
i hesitated when opening up my prebuilt pc to move cases. the amount of courage i had to build up to start taking it out was immeasurable. if you're too nervous to build your own pc, it doesn't hurt to sit there, staring, building up confidence to finally put it together.
One of my older rigs is a Dell with an i7 4790 that I upgraded the ram to Kingston HyperX 8x2 memory, Kingston SSD and a GTX 970 as well as a 850 watt Thermaltake Black Widow PSU. It's been a GREAT project PC!
Your Pet Seagull likes to keep an eye on TH-cam 🤪 Soon enough he'll be hosting the show when you're on vacation 😎👍🇨🇦
Why so many emoti killmes
In Turkey preassembled pc's are very popular. Turkish tech youtubers quite oftenly make deals with retailers for better price for their audience and systems are sold with their channel's name.
I love the birds in your videos!
There called seagulls, little fuckers they are 😂
I became interested in PC’s back in 1996 and right away decided to build my own. By 2001 I was the main engineer for a local PC repair business, by 2004 I was running my own PC (and other electronic devices) repair business...I bought my first pre-built PC just a few months ago (23 years after joining the PC master race) a used DELL T1650, and it’s fu*king brilliant!
It’s solidly built, quiet, fast (no overclocking options unfortunately) and appears to have all standard connections on the board (even front panel)
I don’t regret the decision at all!
I've had many Dell desktop PC's in my possession over the years, oddly I found the #1 failure was the PSU's. Mostly bad caps in the output stage causing the PC's to become unstable. I think I've seen a few boards with bad caps as well.
just set one up early this month, its decent, it was specced as having an i5 9500 and 256gb nvme ssd, it came with the 9400 and a 2.5" sata ssd instead, close enough whatever...
an old 2017 build of windows 10, 1709, which required upgrading after turning it on.
only real problem was dell's latest approved/enforced intel gfx driver kept crashing the system, and then side stepping dell to install new functioning intel graphics drivers.
build option was shot down, only requirement was it had a disc drive because it was a necessity.
I used a Dell Vostro at home for years during a hiatus in computer gaming. C2D 2.9ghz, 2gb DDR3, and a GT 220 added up to a pretty tame computing experience, but it came with a 22" 1080p monitor that I'm still using roughly a decade later. I have to say though, I prefer Dell stuff from that era because it used a standard mATX case, ATX power supply, the front panel connectors are standard, and the case came with an I/O shield. If nothing else, the cases are compatible with standard stuff for future builds, or you could put a better PSU from anyone in there for graphics cards or more drives.
As long as you’re reviewing, for the most part, PCs and pc related stuff, talking about the cpu and benchmarking, I welcome the pre-built review series idea. But don’t feel like you need to overwork. It’s Christmas break :D
Also very interesting video. Merry Xmas and happy New Year.
I live in Argentina.
Back in 2017 I bought my first decent PC and it was a prebuilt. It costed $250 USD back then (7500 ARS). It was a G4400, GTX 1050, 4GB DDR4, H110M, WD 1TB, with Sentey case and PSU, and it also included a mouse and keyboard. Searching for individual parts, this was definitely cheaper.
Now I'm about to finally get an I3-9100F and a H310M together with a new PSU; the second upgrade since I added another 4GB.
6:12 Steve Buscemi
Ali Ansar you got me
@@RandomGaminginHD u would delete the comment
sadly you didn't say:
'with a turbo boost of up to 4.20 ghz.'
:(
Pre-Built Desktop PC's are a good buy when the are at least 4 year old, HP, Dell, Fujitsu and so on. I bought the last 3 years around 70 of those, 40 euro a piece and plenty of live in them. Just at some memory and a SSD, ideal for the company with not a lot to spend. The investment fund available can go to better parts to be competitive. 50 HP, 9 Dell, one Fujitsu, one Samsung and 4 Toshiba, the rest I forgot.
I remember I was stuck with a Dell prebuilt from 2001 for 5 years up until this Christmas,I remember even CS source would cause the computer to lag. Thank God for this new computer I have
I use to love Dell computers until I've had more than a few go belly up shortly after their warranty expired. I haven't had much luck with other Windows based laptops so I'm not putting Dell down. So far my current desktop, a Hewlett-Packard refurbished model from Sun Systems, has fared well, but I haven't used it in a while and the last time I turned it on it seemed perfectly fine. The last laptop I bought is running like a top, but it's a refurbished Samsung Chromebook. And I'm waiting for my first Apple laptop experience. The 2010 13" Unibody MacBook I bought from a seller on eBay. Im sure it's a refurbished unit, but it has a 1 year warranty included. I planned to make a review on my channel for it. I'm also certain my 49 subscribers would be looking forward to seeing it.
Had to talk my parents out of buying a prebuilt and letting me build one for them. Build was around the same price for 4x the storage, including m.2, 2x the ram, 2x the threads and a great/simple upgrade path. For general use PCs, I'd definitely look in the used market first though
Good idea for a video, many people start with prebuilt PCs and don’t always know what’s to look for, in terms of future proofing possibilities.
Good work!
I have upgraded a 6th gen version of this PC that oddly enough had ddr3 memory.
I ended up selling it, but it was an amazing little system. I picked it up used for about 200ish and it had an i5 6400 I believe. I did all kinda of upgrades to that system. For a while I even had an i7 6700, 16gb of ram and a gtx 1050ti in it.
Eventually I downgraded it back to the i5, upgraded the ram, put the 1050ti in it and sold it.
Great little PC and a good buy in the used market. Easy to work in. Upgrades were limited, but easy to do and sometimes fairly affordable.
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Learnt a lot
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Just a headsup, you can install two additional ssds if you get one of those sata power splitters. Did that to my dad's lenovo and it runs like a champ.
"The top of the line Inspiron sports a-"
Wait, wrong video...
I still use my external usb optical drive now and then, as like most newer PC's mine has no built in optical drive. Something i miss.
You can get additional SATA power with the unpopulated mini 6-pin port at 3:19 for SSDs
or just use a sata to 6 pin and unplug the optical drive, or get a sata spliter for the optical drive and a sata to 6 pin and add a rx 470
@@Brandon-uy1uv why bother with all of that when there's 2 additional data ports for sata behind the 2 populated ones, and get one measly cable that's common with most dells for a few years now and dirt cheap
and you keep your optical drive
Another upgrade option with the M.2 slot is to put in an Intel Optane kit. They're not good value compared to SSD's, but I asked my boss to put one in my work machine (which is a Dell prebuilt with an HDD boot drive), and it makes the machine feel close to as snappy as an SSD without having to reinstall Windows or mess with anything.
The cpu fan is backwards sucking air instead of blowing in, you may want to thange the orientation for better flow.
If all you need is a system for simple office type work and browsing.. it's very hard to beat a low end dell if it's on a special. For that use case the OEM budget models when on sale are often below retail costs of the parts so you literally can't build it for less in those cases.
I recently purchased a pre-built PC that included a Core i7 9700K, ASRock Z390 motherboard, Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition, 16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, 512 GB Intel 660p SSD, Lian Li 205 tempered glass case, 600W Cooler Master 80Plus PSU, and Windows 10 Pro for $720 + tax. The parts alone would have cost at least that much, and when you factor in the operating system, the pre-built comes out well ahead. All I had to do was transplant the GPU from the computer I was replacing.
Yeah I'd like to see some mid to high end pre built pc reviews...love all ur videos to be honest....
that being said do you think you could do a video on the intel core i3 3220
I know u probably get questions like this all the time, and for that I'm sorry. But I just got one and u haven't done a video yet. Ur my favorite channel to watch when it comes to older pc hardware, and thus this would be an amazing video for me to watch...
Just an idea please do it...
P.S. good luck with the COPPA stuff
Honestly sometimes I get more excited looking at prebuilts when I am pc part/system hunting. People sometimes upgrade parts inside of them and make them very interesting to go through. Heck just recently I took a 2010 - 2012 HP prebuilt small mini atx and placed an older single slot radeon card and upgraded the PSU to a EVGA 500 W for Windows XP 32 Bit and it is pretty good so far. some of the 2009 - 2013 prebuilts make excellent older windows rigs.
I got one of these with an i5-8400 and 12 GB of RAM for $200. Threw a 1650 and NVME drive and i love it.
I agree, I still use optical discs, hate to see them leaving. One thing I use my PC's ODD for is burning photos to a playable DVD (on DVD players). Yes I'm an old fashioned 17 year old.
I'm 17 and still use floppy and zip disks. Digital media is very convenient, but sometimes you just can't beat the tangibility physical media.
@@MotorHead74808 So what's wrong with USB flash drives?
@@Scooter30FTW Nothing is wrong with USB flash drives, they are an amazing innovation especially in their capacities and data access speeds. However, floppies, zip disks, and other legacy technologies have very unique qualities that USB drives do not such certain sound profiles and how they are put into the machine.
8:18 I know u can click the mouse wheel button and move the curser to get the smoothest page scroll ever. Seems kinda like u were manually doing it. My bad if it’s just lag or something.
Most stuff I repair resell and what not are pre builds and put together so cheaply and just bad, I do like how Dell actually puts some thought into there builds
It would be helpful to list the exact model of the PC in the title or description for us who like to research. Nothing wrong with showcasing prebuilts at all man, thanks for the video.
There's a sound error at 7:40
Don't forget when you're speccing a home built machine to include the cost of Windows. Notice you didn't in your list and that will bump the cost up to above the Dell's price (it'll still be a way more powerful machine than the Dell, I know). Had to do a low cost spec for a friend recently and because he didn't have an old Windows 7/8/10 licence to reuse, and wasn't happy with licenses from eBay, the £110+ for Windows really upped the total cost. For the record, love the channel and your presentation style is perfect.
I see spare SATA ports, you can combine that with a SATA power splitter to add an SSD.
3:05 use an m2 SSD and just clone the OS drive to it with Macrium Reflect. Takes like 10 minutes
Doesn't always work though, I've tried it a bunch of times and kept failing so I just gave up on it.
Kept not copying it correctly, I think it does it correctly about 10-20% of the time, it does work since I did copy a bunch of hdds with it but it's a pretty bad program and a pain in the ass, it's better to install a new win unless you have important stuff you could only access from that boot in that hdd
@@tilburg8683 I've copied the C: partition of my personal rig several times to other drives (Including an SSD) and it worked just fine. No errors whatsoever
@@AlvaroLR I dunno, works about half of the time in some old PC I sometimes still use for some stuff and never really worked on my main PC, I just installed a new windows.
But a lot of times when I use that hdd to start the PC I'll get some error and I'll have to try again
@@tilburg8683 I mirror the partitions without modifying the space that that partition takes, that gave me no errors. Maybe the HDD is a lil faulty?
@@AlvaroLR shouldn't be I used it on like 4 different once and most of them seem to run fine 1 is kinda odd but it's still working.
Did you do it recently or a while ago? I did it like 2/3 weeks ago.
Dell: "we dont use normal form factors or connectors, why? Oh because we love you of course"
Also that's extremely expensive for just an i3 and 8gbs of ram
Yeah, I got a gtx 1060, r5 2400g, 16gb ram and a 1tb nvme for £400
@@tomnotthomas8152 Why exactly a gtx 1060 and r5 2400G?!
yep, reused an old dell motherboard for my build. never knew they actually made adapters to use normal fans until I did that lol
I just payed around 400 for a 2700x with a real mainboard and 32gb of 3200 RAM.
These prebuilts are filled with cheapo components on top of being a bad value.
@David Wilcox it's not a strange listing honestly, 2400G with a 60 class card isnt unordinary
My college computers have those mice and keyboards! And they aren't Dell PCs either lol. Wasn't expecting to see something I've actually used before.
I don't know why but watching your videos is a treat
That laptop optical drive is smart. If brands like Corsair and other case manufacturerers made space for some sleek looking optical drive like that i would probably get one.
It's not awful, you mentioned not being able to add another drive, while you are right, adding one would only take a sata splitter and a sata cable, of course you'd also have to find somewhere to put it though! I could see someone being happy with this system running an sdd with a 1650. Looks like the spec sheet says 300w psu should work, 290 would be pushing it but i bet it would be fine.
Is that a classic mini dash in the background ?
I gave up on Dell 10 years ago due to their customer service getting increasingly poor. They hung up on me when I asked them how I can get my system (a Dell Studio XPS 9100) to take advantage of my newly installed RAM. I ended up pulling that system apart and building my own custom system. It performed better than the prebuilt I had. I decided from that moment forward that never again will I buy another prebuilt computer. As I have built three custom computers in the past, I'm happy to build my own.
That M.2 slot @ 3:11 does look as it doesn't have all the space it needs for a normal M.2 SSD. Might be the camera angle though.
You can see the spot marked "2280". Move the standoff from the 2230 spot to that 2280 spot. Then you can mount the very common 2280 size nvme drives. Although it doesn't look like a screw is pre-installed with that stand off so you need to get a screw to actually mount the drive.
whats that HSF dome called?
Haven't had any complaints with my Dell 7010, i7 3770, 16GB Ram, 500GB SSD, 4TB HDD, and a GTX 1050. Does everything I need it to do, and does it well.
you should have tried it with some optane too, since it is so cheap and you don't need to reinstall the OS to cut your load times in half
this is still better than my lenovo pre-built. it has an AMD A9 dual core processor and 4 gigs of ram😭. welp you should review it next
Just use SATA port from DVD drive if you want to get rid of it and use an external drive
The problem isn't SATA ports. It's the power connectors. You only get one standard sata power connector. The power connector the dvd drive uses can't be used without an adapter of some kind and can't power anything that requires 12 volts.
Actually never been this early. Love the channel!
The cooling configuration is really good. I appreciate it.
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@@thealien_ali3382 what the fuck
This is very intriguing because I didn't expect much from pre-built PCs but this one ain't so bad for a start-up budget PC with decent upgradability. Personally I'd still opt for just building my own as you can get better hardware for about the same or less the price vs pre-builts.
Very entertaining video, man. Keep it up you're doing great! Also be careful about that bird looks like its stalking you.
I bought a prebuilt early on to get my foot in the door of pc gaming. I spent $1500 on a system probably worth about $1200 at the time during the mining craze or even $900ish now.
For my 1500 in late 2017 I got an I7-8700k, gtx 1080, 16gb of ddr4, and a 2tb hdd.
Since then I've added 16gb of ram, and added a sata ssd as a boot drive.
Eh not too bad, my friend made one himself at around the same time, the only thing he got different was a gtx 1080 ti instead, all for 1.3k CAD
Uh, I just remembered my brothers first PC. Was a Dell Dimension, around 15 yrs ago. Had a Pentium with HT, I still have this chip lying around. It could play AoE 2, more wasn't needed. It wasn't cheap, but at that time Dell offered a better value than others.
Looks like it breathes pretty well. I like the the slim DVD drive.
Right now Walmart has a HP pavilion gaming with i5-9400f and a 1660ti for $499 I can buy the parts for that
I’d love if you’d look at the Thinkcentre E73
What’s the point of that cone around the cpu? I’m sure someone will say it directs airflow to the side panel but that seems ludicrous
What is up with the plastic shroud around the CPU cooler, does it really help that much?
I personally don't think an internal optical drive is really necessary when you can get a USB-attached one for about £20--for the rare occasions when you actually need one then that gives you the option, and it's not like the USB bandwidth limitations are going to be a problem even for a DVD drive.
could you do a video regarding your opinion on the i7 9700k? its performance/price now, future potential and general thoughts. You dont necesarily have to buy one, but maybe do a video about different CPUs, etc.
6:02 it's a bit weird to be honest seeing the pc taking so long to boot up, my 500gb seagate 7200rpm which came with my optiplex 7010 boots up windows in 20 seconds, including log in time, while not as fast as an ssd it doesn't take that long
In which direction blows the cpu fan?
Brilliant video, and the following is not a gripe, or criticism BUT any chance you could talk more about the motherboard next time you do a prebuilt. It would have been great to hear what chipset it uses etc.
Thanks :)
oddly enough my thinkcentre sounds like the hard drive is on fire with a fan behind it, is that a problem?
good replacements for old office computers. At least.
happy new year in advance mate. Cheers.
fan from India.
You should have emphasized on gaming a bit more, perhaps showing which (old) games would run well on the iGPU of this prebuilt
i wonder if this might be power contraint, because there is no way a sandy bridge i5 should be on par with this. just as many cores, higher IPc and higher clocks all around. what were the clocks during cinebench?
I have checked a few times when I bought a new computer and I could never build my own cheaper and every time I've checked it would be more expensive than a prebuilt PC. Also if you build it yourself you have a problem with technical support and warranty. I think it would be a lot of fun to build a computer but I could never justify the cost and the hassles that I might run into after it was built.
The complementary keyboard is the one I'm using. I chose it because I want some silent typing.
Some prebuilt PCs are genuinely great, especially so if you can pick one up in a good sale or used. last-gen Optiplex & XPS towers make really good little project machines!
At base retail price though? Most can safely get a hard pass.
I got the Inspiron Small Desktop on sale for $279 on Black Friday and upgraded it myself for a $330 shipped:
i3 9100
128 GB Boot M.2 SSD + 1 TB HDD
12 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
Not half bad for a non-gaming PC.
now you are wrong about being able to add more Harddrive / SSD with a pcie to sata raid controller as their are multiple pcie slots open
But you are right the biggest problem is still power
there's definitely still a problem with power
Can you open last generations silver hp pavilion with the silver diamond front?
Couple of pros on pre-builts:
Windows is included already.
Tech support and warranty.
Sure you can sail the seas or say that all components have their own warranties, but buying a Pre built means you don't have to figure out for yourself what failed. Call tech support, they'll have you do some test and whatever needs to be replaced can be replaced in warranty.
Can you put a graphics card in there and a better psu? I really want to know what this little prebuilt can do with a little upgrade
I enjoyed watching this. Please keep doing them. I feel prebuilts are a great way to get into the pc building hobby. As mentioned, a few upgrades here and before you know it you’re looking for whole new parts for a new build.
Could you not use a SATA Power Y-Splitter cable to give power to an SSD as I think I can see 2 unused SATA ports on the motherboard. I've done this for all of our work Optiplex PCs.
adding SSD to any system is HUGE upgrade, even these low end stuff.
9001% recommend to do so, considering a 120GB one only costs like... 20 bucks.
Would love to see this system with a 750ti, 950, 1050ti, or 1650ti just to get an idea of what you can drop in. A 290w is probably enough for a drop in PCIE power only GPU.
I think these videos are fine but it would be cool to also show some older prebuilt systems that could compare for less or are better for similar. Also maybe some build guides. Like choose a modern prebuilt then do a series where you show some options that would be better at cost or same at less. Etc.
you said you cant add a ssd without repacing the hdd but i saw 2 free sata ports or is there any other reason why you cant?
Last time I priced things, I would have only saved about $50 on a $1200 system building it myself. Had that changed much in a few years?
Can you actually put a gfx card in the case without modding it? The slots look quite a way away from the back plates because of the strange case layout at the back...
any standard graphics card can fit but the only thing you have to worry about is length and power draw