This is the only PC tech channel that i watch videos from start to end. Videos are very interesting, not too long and straight to the point with a touch of humour. Keep it up seagul boi.
Eh, AMD comes in and out of being on top. Back in the mid-2000's they were murdering intel. First the Athlon-64 was just such a beast, then AMD followed it up with true dual-core processors and quad-core processors (AMD64x2,4). Unfortunately by the time AMD did quad-core intel was catching up and eventually dominated the high end CPU market until Ryzen. Even then that's only because AMD got to 7nm first, so they'll need to keep sizing down ahead of intel in order to stay ahead of intel. That is if intel can actually get to 7nm soon, but better that amd keep the heat on.
@@ncolvin05 AMD also got ahead of Intel because Intel broke their own tick tock model at least in part through laziness. Cpus haven't moved in over 5 years. That's why Apple laptops had problems, because the Cpus were falling behind the curve
cinebench run: athlon x4 860k: ima doing my best and show everyone what i'm capable of! ... puh, 682 at last. now beat that! sleeping ryzen 5 3600: zZzZzZ... 689 zZzZzZ
This video brings back some nostalgia! I owned this setup before (X4 860K + 1050Ti + 16GB 2133MHz) and I have fond memories with it because I remember saving up a lot of school money for it and had sleepless nights researching. It was such great bang for the buck, but I do agree: 1) it's a dead platform and had no upgrade path and 2) the 860k had terrible frametime performance. It was a great overclocker, though. I was lucky enough to get an OC to 4.2GHz at stock voltages with a Hyper212. It helped a lot and found 100% usage on BOTH the CPU and GPU most of the time. The OC bought my then rig a good year or two. But alas, eventually the frametimes made me dizzy and gaming became a vertiginous experience. May 2019, it was time to say goodbye to the old gal. Sold the system and now went up to an R5 2600 + RX580 with 3200MHz memory. Never looked back. Good times!
What a coincidence. I just upgraded from my old FM2 rig to a brand new chad AM4 Ryzen 7 2700 PC. My previous specs were X4 870K, MSI A88X-G43 mobo and HyperX Fury 1866Mhz CL10 if anyone wonders. The boost in perfomance is unbelievable.
I remember my 860k...Battlefield 1 was launching, bought the game excited to play it and then...horror, the stutter was just game braking ! Nice memories, brought by your video ! Thank you , and keep up the good work !👍👋😊
Greetings mate. I’ve been watching your videos for a short bit of time now and I figured I’ve spent enough time watching to give you some positive feedback. I think you have real potential. You have a nice friendly vibe without seeming over dramatic or in your face. To be quite honest I wasn’t really sure why I was watching a specific video of yours I think I was just more interested in your commentary and how you talked about things. Then I began to appreciate the content alongside it. I particularly like the rare graphics card and dual graphics card videos. I never knew those existed. Hope to see more from you!
@@AbdoJouma a lot of France and Germany have similar summers then the nordic countries are colder than us. Parts of Northern Spain also have similar weather.
1050Ti man, my last of the x50Ti range that I owned and what a beast, it's powering a friends PC now but man it felt great every 2 years upgrading and getting that massive boost, went from 550ti/750ti/1050ti and was always such fantastic bang for you buck, all were paired with my 3570k which is still kicking as a spare PC now, got super lucky and was able to auto clock it to 4.2Ghz... love that little CPU :D
Just found his videos - between his modesty and his soothing voice, I just watch one video after another and the stress of this shitty time melts away....
I have a Kaverti A10-7870k on this socket. Punching it in the face with a 4.4GHz overclock on the CPU and 912 on the CPU with 2133 (nameplate 2400 but XMP was unstable) DDR3 gave me ... an admittedly rather pleasant experience for SFF IGP gaming in the era. It's just that cooling a 125w overclock, 95w nameplate processor in an SFF case back in '14 .... was a challenge, due to the rise in small form gaming PCs being several years away. Incidentally it was just this year that I finally built this PC up to its prime, with a Meanwell PSU powering a 160w Pico, and Corsair's H5 SF taming the furnace, all crammed into a cute little InWin bookcase enclosure.
Got the same PSU. Quite decent quality considering the rest of it. I remember upgrading so I could get 40-50 FPS. I used to play Warcraft about 35fps. That was my cut off point before I had to buy a new card. 60 FPS, Luxury 😀
I'm a little surprised that you did not try any overclocking at all. Since then 860K is quite capable in that manner (4.5GHz was not an exception) and this board allows it. Though the fan would surely need a replacement. Anyway, another great video. Thanks.
@@scottrich976 it depends on the Game, If you Play GPU intensive Games you will be fine, but If your games are really CPU dependent you will be looking at a bottleneck
Would you ever consider benchmarking csgo with these low end configs? I know that loads of people who use these parts that only want to play esport games!
I know what you are saying about specs, I'm not worried about that, but it gives a good perspective on older hardware, especially older combos of cpu and ram
You can get some good deals off people who are just selling to make space too. I bought a custom build from a customer when i worked in retail with an AMD FX44100, 12GB DDR3 & monitor for 60 pounds. I put an rx460 inside it and while i cant ultra most games i can play medium to high with frame rate above 30fps, always been a console gamer so i didnt mind.
I built my FM2+ computer back in 2015 with a A10-7850k and I can agree that upgrading is never gonna happen. I would gladly donate it if you want a slightly better cpu that's been overclocked to snot for the past 2 years
The system proved to be good value, given C.E.X. sell a 1050Ti on it's own for £100 ($130), so you had the case, cd rw, motherboard, processer, fan, ram, hdd and power supply all for £75 ($97.50). Your right you could run pretty much any single card on a 650w PSU. I think the only two single GPU's that need more than a 650w power supply are, the Titan Z (750w recommended) and the RX vega 64 (700w recommended).
i had that exact same motherboard with a A8 6600K quad core in my first gaming rig, combined with a superclocked EVGA 760 and thats what i used from around 2014 till 2018 when i upgraded to Ryzen
My first gaming rig was FM2+ based. The athlon x4 880k (pretty much a higher clocked 860k) was a good budget chip (I paid like $60) but it ran hot as hell. I had it for about 2 years until I upgraded to a ryzen 7 1700. My original GPU (gt 1030) ran nice with it (I wouldn't go over a 1050ti unless you want major bottleneck issues) but my games were kinda stuttering with my 980.
With modular power supplies if buying second-hand even the same manufacturer cable might not be compatible across power supplies. I learned this to my cost as the magic smoke was emitted from my SSD a second or two after being plugged in.
I got approximately 1380 points with an x4 860k on Cinebench r23, after overclocking it to 4.5GHz with AOD, the score remained similar, at around 1420. I've recently built a system with this one for hosting a csgo server, as well as using it as a guest pc for LAN parties.
I have an A10-7870K (brother of the athlon) overclocked to 4,5 GHz and paired with a GT 1030 GDDR5. I built it in 2015 (with an A6 7400K). I upgraded at middle of 2016 to the A10. I used it with the integrateg GPU to 2019 and bought the GT 1030. Sometimes the processor is weak for the GT 1030. Sometimes the GT is the weak spot. A was on a tight bouget. I would like to build a ryzen PC but i have no money for it. I use the PC for gaming, 3D modelling, and for Unity engine. (Note: the AMD not advertising but if the integrated GPU is used at full potencial the CPU Core clock is go down to 3 GHz even if it's overclocked. With the GPU upgrade i gained more GPU and CPU power and freed 2 Gb Ram.
The most surprising thing about this is you actually managed to find anything worth buying in CEX aside from games. They have most things marked up just below the price of a brand new unit. CEX is kind of like the gamestop for the U.K. as they pay low and charge high.
I had a lucky draw at CEX with a custom machine £249 i7 6700 1tb hdd and gtx 970 4gb. Dayum... only gripe was the cpu was cooled with a stock intel cooler and was loud as hell... but £249 for that is pretty amazing!
I just upgraded from FX 8350, 16g ddr3 and 1050ti, to Ryzen 3 1200, 1600g ddr4 and 1050ti. It runs the games I play (Far Cry 5, Fallout 4, RDR2, Crysis and more) pretty well at medium to high settings. I usually OC my cpu from 3.2g to 3.8g during gaming. I am intending to upgrade gpu and cpu fairly soon for even better performance, but this build was what I could squeeze out of a Christmas budget.
That cinebench score is lower than that of a substantially underclocked (800MHz!) R5 3600... which pretty much tells you all you need to know about the choice of CPU. Unfortunately, upgrading the CPU any further will likely require a completely new system board/platform, and a change from DDR3 to DDR4 RAM. I also say that for gaming, less than 16GB RAM is pushing it. I upgraded my gaming laptop from 8GB to 16GB rather quickly.
I had a very similar build a while ago. I had an A10-7600k (something from that line) and used the built in the GPU to start with and added a 1050ti later. I was playing older games at the time (TF2, and 360 era games). I remember when at college we had to do some SQL work and the CPU just hated it. Data serachers that took seconds at college took a good mintue on my home rig. On a Ryzen 5 now much faster.
That graphics card and PSU is basically worth the full price you paid for it, the rest is just bonus scrap you can reuse for a ultra budget build. Not gonna say was worth the gamble but you did well nonetheless, maybe you can build a Frankenstein build out of all these good parts from cex.
I built a new system last week, i3 9100f with a 1050ti. It replaced my old FM2+ System (A8 4C 4T), it just could not handle csgo anymore, now, on my new pc I get about 300 fps on CSGO, 70Fps on GTA V (High) only cost me £300, already had the gpu. It is a very very capable system, although I will be upgrading to a 1650 very soon.
I had the EXACT same pc specs myself back in 16. After being disappointed with how games played and being stuck with my ps4, I decided to buy a gaming laptop (i7-6700 & gtx 1080). Gave the 1050 ti to my dad for his pc and still have the rest of the pc in the loft collecting dust
Love your videos mate been a subscriber for years keep up the good work ! I've been buying GPUs CPUs and RAM from cex for years always a surprise when you buy a GPU as well online anyway prices arnt bad either.
@@quenguin2178 wow really? That's bad I've only really bought GPUs online from cex all CPUs I've bought have been in store and never had a problem hope you got your money back
I've actually been to a cex store in India and it was suprisingly good...I believe I bought a replacement controller and a bunch of games...I'm not sure about uk.. but they had all things gaming there
my first custom pc had an Asus board with a FM2 socket and an AMD A8 6600k clocked at 4.8ghz. I first ran it with an GTX 750 Ti later on I upgradet to a GTX 680 I got free from a cousin of mine and the last gpu this system saw was a gtx 970 which was fairly new at that point in time. I was surprised that the CPU didn't even bottleneck the 970 that bad... edit: it was a FM2 mobo, not a FM2+
I have the same mobo and a 7860k for streaming... was my first gaming pc when I got back in to it. Held up ok for about a year but long in the tooth now. Didnt do bad for 60 quid tbh. Replaced it with an it 2300 and get much better frame rates now. Funny how newer isn't necessarily better.
I'm inclined to believe that something like the Core 2 Quad or Phenom CPUs might be a better value for the money. Although those are more like from 2007, but they do have 4 physical cores.
@@RandomGaminginHD for $40 USD, I did pick up an Asus p5b motherboard with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 CPU and 4 gb ddr2 ram. It's supposed to arrive today so I might do a video on that when I put it together.
@@RandomGaminginHD just a follow up, I did put together my Core 2 Quad PC but had to do some troubleshooting. First, it kept saying CPU ucode error, and it kept saying that the CPU was overheating even though when I touched the CPU heatsink, it still felt cool to the touch. It turns out that the Q9550 was newer than the motherboard it was on and it wasn't being detected properly, so I updated the BIOS, and now it works just fine.
Had a X4 760K for several years in my main PC, the 860K just wasn't worth the effort to upgrade. When I finally did upgrade, I went to the Ryzen 1800x. It's safe to say my gaming experience improved a touch! However, I still mess about with FM2 hardware even today as I have a soft spot for that whole AMD era.
I still use an FM2 system (A8-6600K). I mostly use it for basic usage (not gaming) and for that purpose, it's still OK. I looked at CPU upgrades, but as mentioned in the video, other options simply aren't worth it.
About to put together a dedicated GTA V potato so I can play when I'm traveling for work, featuring an AMD Phenom ii X4 810, 4gb of DDR2, and a GTX 260. I specially wanted to make a machine that would play the game at about 720p30, so I would appreciate my main rig (Ryzen 7 2700, GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB ram) more when I get home. Lol. Should make a good submission to RMR.
I have this Corsair TX650M, but it's an older version and it doesn't have the bronze, silver or gold rate 80 plus but it's powerful and overkill as this newer model.
i did regret buying the 860k at first, but used it for along time till i went Ryzen and got an old intel Build around the same time Athlon 860k came out and never looked back, 860k still deos very well if you plan to use it for streaming and average use i did play doom 2016, RE5, RE6,RE4, Deuz Ex, Thief 2014, Sleepless Dogs, and they played pretty good on that chip
@@JT-ko2ib Well yeah obviously, just throw a cheap 3000 mhz kit in?. Would still be a relatively cheap upgrade and would stomp all over the i3 mentioned?
I miss CEX I personally keep all the unneeded PSU cables in the box, which goes in the attic, with all the other boxes and extra screws, accessories, etc.
@@Jack-fb6sr FM2A88M Pro3+, XFX R9 380 Double Dissipation 2GB, I had 2x4gb team group DDR3 sticks at 1600 mhz, 1TB Seagate drive which died fairly quickly but served me well, and a 600 watt evga bronze psu. All put into a Deepcool Tesseract case. Cable management was shiet, and it was loud due to stock cooler, but I got by and had fun doing it.
I like this one. I have an AMD Phenom II X6 Cpu and a Gtx 660 Gfx card.. so this computer is similar to mine, where i have 6 cores and this one has 4 cores
Some time ago I found an Asus Essentio desktop M51BC PC (dumpster find) has an AMD FX 8300 & Radeon R9 255. Still runs - needs cleaning, thermal paste reapplied, etc. Has Win 8 on the HDD, but I am leaning towards getting say, a 250GB SSD, and a better GPU, like an R9 280, 290, 580, or a 7850. Thank you 🤓
@@greasysteve5671 Yes, even the i3 8100 can handle something up to a gtx 1660. Of course you will have a little less fps than if you had a very good CPU, but still
Well, if you're on a tight budget you probably also would buy a second hand monitor thats native 720p, to squeeze as much performance as you can get out of the build. But yes, i once made a build with the same cpu, since i found an old amd hd 7850 in my storage, and i too were experiencing problems when it came to cpu intensive tasks.
Rx 570 always remained a budget king. Lower price than both 1650 or 1050 ti, but its tdp is 150W. But i can agree, 1650 is quite powerful, knowing it uses only pcie power.
i just upgraded my FM2 pc from overclockers i had the A8 6600k and after putting a gtx1050ti 4gb its would still play most games this socket isent as bad as you think if you get an A10 7+++ cpu and 16gb ram they overclock very well and stay cool on stock cooling i got my 6600k up to 4.2ghz and never had any problems plus if you have a crossfire enabled amd card from say 7000 series it could be tricked into crossfire with the apu
Ayyyy! its my board and cpu lineup, i just got in some used parts to upgrade from that board and my athlon 880k, what a terribly unsupported socket n board, theres barely any upgrade paths that are worth it, better to get a used i5 n board cuz u can then re use the ram etc like ive done :D Those athlons are GTX 480 of the cpu world, mine had 4Ghz ran at 75+ C with idles of 50s on an aftermarket cooler..it is really a terrible platform
Something seems wrong with that setup. The 860k is a 4-core CPU.. but is showing up in Cinebench as 2C/4T. It should realistically show up better in terms of score. You might want to verify all the BIOS settings. Also, the 860k has an unlocked multiplier.. so you should be able to OC it quite easily with little effort. Why not go for it? While you're at it, find some cheap RAM heat spreaders and OC that RAM as well. The 860k can support 1866 RAM if I'm not mistaken.
I built a friend a computer with this CPU and he still using it today. Sadly he has a lot of health issues and is super poor. If it wasn't for section 8 housing he'd be on the street. He just has enough money to buy food for a month at the 99 cent store and pay utilities with the, "I'm F***ing poor discount" from a lot of them(thanks to food stamps). So unless he somehow gets a job sitting down and get a ride to and fro, he'll be using this computer til it explodes. I even at one point tried to help using some spear parts, but that venture didn't pan out and so I ended losing money in the long run.
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Somehow the British accent makes this sounds like a documentary, compared to those Canadian and American channels
Hahaha, it makes the dry subject matter more palatable than normal eh.
*dawid does tech stuff and Linus Tech Tips*
wait both are canadian
Linus sex tips
"I consider 8Gb ram the minimum and 16 the sweetspot"
I remember not too long ago when 4Gb was the minimum and 8Gb was the sweetspot.
You mean 4 years ago. 512mb used to be a sweetspot
@Jazmsjoker yup and 50 years ago, 1KB ram was the sweetspot. That’s 10% of the size of an EMPTY word document. 😂
Remember when no ram was overkill
@@yazms. what you gonna play on gtx 10 series cards with 512mb ram
Moore's Law in action
7:06
Pain in the a...
To be continued
This is the only PC tech channel that i watch videos from start to end. Videos are very interesting, not too long and straight to the point with a touch of humour. Keep it up seagul boi.
Seagull powered.
8))
Wow dude, your name.
That takes me back, I grew up with Tyrian. xD haha.
Thanks for the nostalgia trip.
This system takes us back to a time when AMD was still kind of a joke.
They really were a joke on the cpu side of things. Though some of their older cards like the 7970 still hold up decently even today.
@@R3in_Ch emphasis on "were"
Eh, AMD comes in and out of being on top. Back in the mid-2000's they were murdering intel. First the Athlon-64 was just such a beast, then AMD followed it up with true dual-core processors and quad-core processors (AMD64x2,4). Unfortunately by the time AMD did quad-core intel was catching up and eventually dominated the high end CPU market until Ryzen. Even then that's only because AMD got to 7nm first, so they'll need to keep sizing down ahead of intel in order to stay ahead of intel. That is if intel can actually get to 7nm soon, but better that amd keep the heat on.
@@R3in_Ch
Talk about mindless sheep following trends
@@ncolvin05 AMD also got ahead of Intel because Intel broke their own tick tock model at least in part through laziness. Cpus haven't moved in over 5 years. That's why Apple laptops had problems, because the Cpus were falling behind the curve
its 5am here in Australia and just found your channel again, havent seen you in years
'its 5am here in Australia and just found your channel again'. So how long have you been looking for it then Aric, LOL!
welcome back
He's grown quite alot
It is 10pm in germany.
Good luck with the fires
"100 of most currencies" lmao
I'm sure it would be over 100 something of most currencies to be fair
lmao $100 in my local currency would be a fucking steal.
for measure: CLP $100 is equivalent to $0.13 USD
@@itsdokko2990 lol in Lebanese currency it would be 6.75 cents
krayos13 whwt currency? Rubles or something? Lol
100 is like 0.9 cent here
cinebench run:
athlon x4 860k: ima doing my best and show everyone what i'm capable of! ... puh, 682 at last. now beat that!
sleeping ryzen 5 3600: zZzZzZ... 689 zZzZzZ
lmao that 3600 was at 800 mhz
2600 gets like 1250 in cinebench r15 with 2133MHz RAM...
And it was weirdly underclocked at 800 mhz. XD
I had an 860k, was a nice chip and did my gaming needs well till I went ryzen 2600
@@JohnSmith-nj9qo it was a joke in one of his vids he ran the cpu at the lowest it could go to see how it would game.
7:07 clever cut lol
😂😂😂
Damn i was surprised seeing such a good power supply in there, i recently installed a TX550M in to my personal build.
Awesome vids man, you really do your homework and I appreciate you due diligence!
Pain in the a...
*nyway*
@Jamie Sharpe this happens all the time in a lot of videos for me.
Was looking for this exact comment
This video brings back some nostalgia! I owned this setup before (X4 860K + 1050Ti + 16GB 2133MHz) and I have fond memories with it because I remember saving up a lot of school money for it and had sleepless nights researching. It was such great bang for the buck, but I do agree: 1) it's a dead platform and had no upgrade path and 2) the 860k had terrible frametime performance.
It was a great overclocker, though. I was lucky enough to get an OC to 4.2GHz at stock voltages with a Hyper212. It helped a lot and found 100% usage on BOTH the CPU and GPU most of the time. The OC bought my then rig a good year or two.
But alas, eventually the frametimes made me dizzy and gaming became a vertiginous experience. May 2019, it was time to say goodbye to the old gal. Sold the system and now went up to an R5 2600 + RX580 with 3200MHz memory.
Never looked back. Good times!
keep doing these mystery PC unboxings and tests they are my favorite videos of yours.
Gotta say I love the look of that case. Really wish we would go back to designing cases to look like that style.
What is the case model?
Most underrated PC channel out there. Keep up the excellent work.
I used the X4 860K in my first build back in the day. This brought back some good memories!
What a coincidence. I just upgraded from my old FM2 rig to a brand new chad AM4 Ryzen 7 2700 PC. My previous specs were X4 870K, MSI A88X-G43 mobo and HyperX Fury 1866Mhz CL10 if anyone wonders. The boost in perfomance is unbelievable.
I remember my 860k...Battlefield 1 was launching, bought the game excited to play it and then...horror, the stutter was just game braking ! Nice memories, brought by your video ! Thank you , and keep up the good work !👍👋😊
Greetings mate. I’ve been watching your videos for a short bit of time now and I figured I’ve spent enough time watching to give you some positive feedback. I think you have real potential. You have a nice friendly vibe without seeming over dramatic or in your face. To be quite honest I wasn’t really sure why I was watching a specific video of yours I think I was just more interested in your commentary and how you talked about things. Then I began to appreciate the content alongside it. I particularly like the rare graphics card and dual graphics card videos. I never knew those existed. Hope to see more from you!
I like your garden, man. That's a lovely place you have
We just got a few inches of snow where I live(Midwest United States). How is it so nice in England?
@@jtenorj barely ever snows here and trust me it's really annoying. The weather feels about the same the whole year with a lot of wind and rain
@BalsamicRain522yt I it's actually quite warm in summer
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe Not really tho. Still pretty cold compared to other parts of Europe
@@AbdoJouma a lot of France and Germany have similar summers then the nordic countries are colder than us. Parts of Northern Spain also have similar weather.
1050Ti man, my last of the x50Ti range that I owned and what a beast, it's powering a friends PC now but man it felt great every 2 years upgrading and getting that massive boost, went from 550ti/750ti/1050ti and was always such fantastic bang for you buck, all were paired with my 3570k which is still kicking as a spare PC now, got super lucky and was able to auto clock it to 4.2Ghz... love that little CPU :D
Never thought I’d hear the phrase FM2+ again. It was my first socket, and I had a board almost exactly like this. Glad I upgraded to Ryzen in 2018
.....why would you think you would never hear the phrase again?.......
I subscribed based on your sensible thermal paste application alone
You're the most humble guy on the internet.. God bless you. 😋
Just found his videos - between his modesty and his soothing voice, I just watch one video after another and the stress of this shitty time melts away....
@@shodan6401 for sure man.
If the bad cut on 7:01 was intended... It was pretty funny ;)
i think it was!
I have a Kaverti A10-7870k on this socket.
Punching it in the face with a 4.4GHz overclock on the CPU and 912 on the CPU with 2133 (nameplate 2400 but XMP was unstable) DDR3 gave me ... an admittedly rather pleasant experience for SFF IGP gaming in the era.
It's just that cooling a 125w overclock, 95w nameplate processor in an SFF case back in '14 .... was a challenge, due to the rise in small form gaming PCs being several years away.
Incidentally it was just this year that I finally built this PC up to its prime, with a Meanwell PSU powering a 160w Pico, and Corsair's H5 SF taming the furnace, all crammed into a cute little InWin bookcase enclosure.
Got the same PSU. Quite decent quality considering the rest of it.
I remember upgrading so I could get 40-50 FPS.
I used to play Warcraft about 35fps. That was my cut off point before I had to buy a new card.
60 FPS, Luxury 😀
U upgrading the psu for more fps that's a first, 🤣
I'm a little surprised that you did not try any overclocking at all. Since then 860K is quite capable in that manner (4.5GHz was not an exception) and this board allows it. Though the fan would surely need a replacement. Anyway, another great video. Thanks.
YOURE THE BEST TO EVER DO THIS SHIT
I force everyone in London, Kentucky to watch you!
I had that little Athlon on my A88 Asus motherboard overclocked to 4.4 Ghz.
I had a Asus A85 with an A8 6600k - ran at 4.8 Ghz without a hickup
I just got a 7650K and A58HM grenade with 16gb ram from the scrap guy on my street. Is it worth putting a graphics card in it? Tiny case though.
@@scottrich976 If you have a GPU on hand you can definitly Game with it, but expect similar performance to the PC in the video
@@ThomasSiebenhofer will a gtx960 be good enough? I haven't done PC gaming since Alice and Half Life 2 Episode 2, oh and Doom3.
@@scottrich976 it depends on the Game, If you Play GPU intensive Games you will be fine, but If your games are really CPU dependent you will be looking at a bottleneck
Would you ever consider benchmarking csgo with these low end configs? I know that loads of people who use these parts that only want to play esport games!
@Khinh Phu People hate him? Lol why? Lol.
Just go with a haswell i5 for budget cs . Maybe a 960 then you've got playedable eSports rig. If you can afford Ryzen go with that
I know what you are saying about specs, I'm not worried about that, but it gives a good perspective on older hardware, especially older combos of cpu and ram
@@Olie956 he just said
@@mannfred1440 who just said? What did they say? What are you even talking about?
You can get some good deals off people who are just selling to make space too. I bought a custom build from a customer when i worked in retail with an AMD FX44100, 12GB DDR3 & monitor for 60 pounds. I put an rx460 inside it and while i cant ultra most games i can play medium to high with frame rate above 30fps, always been a console gamer so i didnt mind.
You could have tested some games that ran well on it. I could imagine that games like bf4, blackops 2 etc would run pretty good on it
"The 1050ti is the better component" @08:03
Nuff said.
I built my FM2+ computer back in 2015 with a A10-7850k and I can agree that upgrading is never gonna happen. I would gladly donate it if you want a slightly better cpu that's been overclocked to snot for the past 2 years
Considering the memory and PSU. I'm actually very impressed.
You and zWORMSz are kinda similar and I love watching both of ur videos
You've inspired me, and I have started my own Laptop, Upgrade/Repair Channel!
Change your profile picture, it will make it look more serious, I might watch a few videos
I visited your Channel, Great Job! Nice Vids!
Good Start, Nervous Nick, I Love that $10.00 Laptop you Scored! very Informative Channel!
I presume that you two are his friends, you guys were there at the start of the channep
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The system proved to be good value, given C.E.X. sell a 1050Ti on it's own for £100 ($130), so you had the case, cd rw, motherboard, processer, fan, ram, hdd and power supply all for £75 ($97.50). Your right you could run pretty much any single card on a 650w PSU. I think the only two single GPU's that need more than a 650w power supply are, the Titan Z (750w recommended) and the RX vega 64 (700w recommended).
i had that exact same motherboard with a A8 6600K quad core in my first gaming rig, combined with a superclocked EVGA 760 and thats what i used from around 2014 till 2018 when i upgraded to Ryzen
My first gaming rig was FM2+ based. The athlon x4 880k (pretty much a higher clocked 860k) was a good budget chip (I paid like $60) but it ran hot as hell. I had it for about 2 years until I upgraded to a ryzen 7 1700. My original GPU (gt 1030) ran nice with it (I wouldn't go over a 1050ti unless you want major bottleneck issues) but my games were kinda stuttering with my 980.
You should do a video of your entire inventory of computer stuff you have stashed all over your house. I'd be super interested to see your collection!
With modular power supplies if buying second-hand even the same manufacturer cable might not be compatible across power supplies. I learned this to my cost as the magic smoke was emitted from my SSD a second or two after being plugged in.
Cool video, thanks for making these. Very entertaining and informative.
I got approximately 1380 points with an x4 860k on Cinebench r23, after overclocking it to 4.5GHz with AOD, the score remained similar, at around 1420. I've recently built a system with this one for hosting a csgo server, as well as using it as a guest pc for LAN parties.
I have an A10-7870K (brother of the athlon) overclocked to 4,5 GHz and paired with a GT 1030 GDDR5. I built it in 2015 (with an A6 7400K). I upgraded at middle of 2016 to the A10. I used it with the integrateg GPU to 2019 and bought the GT 1030. Sometimes the processor is weak for the GT 1030. Sometimes the GT is the weak spot. A was on a tight bouget. I would like to build a ryzen PC but i have no money for it. I use the PC for gaming, 3D modelling, and for Unity engine. (Note: the AMD not advertising but if the integrated GPU is used at full potencial the CPU Core clock is go down to 3 GHz even if it's overclocked. With the GPU upgrade i gained more GPU and CPU power and freed 2 Gb Ram.
The amount his hand shakes when holding the 1050... Wow
All in all I'd say that you made a pretty good deal with this machine.
Just found your channel - great content, keep it up :)
The most surprising thing about this is you actually managed to find anything worth buying in CEX aside from games. They have most things marked up just below the price of a brand new unit.
CEX is kind of like the gamestop for the U.K. as they pay low and charge high.
I had a lucky draw at CEX with a custom machine £249 i7 6700 1tb hdd and gtx 970 4gb. Dayum... only gripe was the cpu was cooled with a stock intel cooler and was loud as hell...
but £249 for that is pretty amazing!
I just upgraded from FX 8350, 16g ddr3 and 1050ti, to Ryzen 3 1200, 1600g ddr4 and 1050ti. It runs the games I play (Far Cry 5, Fallout 4, RDR2, Crysis and more) pretty well at medium to high settings. I usually OC my cpu from 3.2g to 3.8g during gaming. I am intending to upgrade gpu and cpu fairly soon for even better performance, but this build was what I could squeeze out of a Christmas budget.
Did you upgrade to anything better since then? 😃
@@Generationalwealth94 lol, yes
@@paulapsley3712 what did you upgrade to
That cinebench score is lower than that of a substantially underclocked (800MHz!) R5 3600... which pretty much tells you all you need to know about the choice of CPU.
Unfortunately, upgrading the CPU any further will likely require a completely new system board/platform, and a change from DDR3 to DDR4 RAM.
I also say that for gaming, less than 16GB RAM is pushing it. I upgraded my gaming laptop from 8GB to 16GB rather quickly.
I had a very similar build a while ago. I had an A10-7600k (something from that line) and used the built in the GPU to start with and added a 1050ti later. I was playing older games at the time (TF2, and 360 era games). I remember when at college we had to do some SQL work and the CPU just hated it. Data serachers that took seconds at college took a good mintue on my home rig. On a Ryzen 5 now much faster.
X4 860k @4.4ghz paired with a ASUS Strix GTX 970 still going strong :D runs everything I need- RE3 remake, League, Apex, GTA 5, and Autocad.
R u revenant main?!?!?!
That graphics card and PSU is basically worth the full price you paid for it, the rest is just bonus scrap you can reuse for a ultra budget build.
Not gonna say was worth the gamble but you did well nonetheless, maybe you can build a Frankenstein build out of all these good parts from cex.
I built a new system last week, i3 9100f with a 1050ti. It replaced my old FM2+ System (A8 4C 4T), it just could not handle csgo anymore, now, on my new pc I get about 300 fps on CSGO, 70Fps on GTA V (High)
only cost me £300, already had the gpu. It is a very very capable system, although I will be upgrading to a 1650 very soon.
I had the EXACT same pc specs myself back in 16. After being disappointed with how games played and being stuck with my ps4, I decided to buy a gaming laptop (i7-6700 & gtx 1080). Gave the 1050 ti to my dad for his pc and still have the rest of the pc in the loft collecting dust
That was an expensive gamble that didn't payoff. Atleast the 1050ti is a decent consultation prize.
Love your videos mate been a subscriber for years keep up the good work ! I've been buying GPUs CPUs and RAM from cex for years always a surprise when you buy a GPU as well online anyway prices arnt bad either.
I dont touch cpus from cex. I ordered an amd processor and 8gb ram and the cpu came in a paper bag with bent pins
@@quenguin2178 wow really? That's bad I've only really bought GPUs online from cex all CPUs I've bought have been in store and never had a problem hope you got your money back
This is and will be for the next years better than my laptop that i have..i wish i had a pc..
I've actually been to a cex store in India and it was suprisingly good...I believe I bought a replacement controller and a bunch of games...I'm not sure about uk.. but they had all things gaming there
My first gaming pc was an 860k on that same mobo. Wasn't bad for the money at the time.
The first system I ever built had an 860k cpu. It got me by for a while, but I was so happy when I got a better cpu for my next build lol.
i havent watched it fully but so far great video! :D
my first custom pc had an Asus board with a FM2 socket and an AMD A8 6600k clocked at 4.8ghz. I first ran it with an GTX 750 Ti later on I upgradet to a GTX 680 I got free from a cousin of mine and the last gpu this system saw was a gtx 970 which was fairly new at that point in time.
I was surprised that the CPU didn't even bottleneck the 970 that bad...
edit: it was a FM2 mobo, not a FM2+
How do i get notified THE SECOND this gets uploaded instead of 2 minutes late
@No_Mercy cause he isnt mainstream dumbed down garbage like theverge
If you can you should test it at 1440p low and see if it alleviate the CPU and maybe it can do better
I have the same mobo and a 7860k for streaming... was my first gaming pc when I got back in to it. Held up ok for about a year but long in the tooth now. Didnt do bad for 60 quid tbh. Replaced it with an it 2300 and get much better frame rates now. Funny how newer isn't necessarily better.
I'm inclined to believe that something like the Core 2 Quad or Phenom CPUs might be a better value for the money. Although those are more like from 2007, but they do have 4 physical cores.
Yeah I’ll have to revisit the core 2 quad soon and find out
@@RandomGaminginHD for $40 USD, I did pick up an Asus p5b motherboard with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 CPU and 4 gb ddr2 ram. It's supposed to arrive today so I might do a video on that when I put it together.
@@RandomGaminginHD just a follow up, I did put together my Core 2 Quad PC but had to do some troubleshooting. First, it kept saying CPU ucode error, and it kept saying that the CPU was overheating even though when I touched the CPU heatsink, it still felt cool to the touch. It turns out that the Q9550 was newer than the motherboard it was on and it wasn't being detected properly, so I updated the BIOS, and now it works just fine.
Love your videos but PLEASE turn the gain up on your audio! It's so much quieter than all the other youtube videos
Had a X4 760K for several years in my main PC, the 860K just wasn't worth the effort to upgrade. When I finally did upgrade, I went to the Ryzen 1800x.
It's safe to say my gaming experience improved a touch!
However, I still mess about with FM2 hardware even today as I have a soft spot for that whole AMD era.
I still use an FM2 system (A8-6600K). I mostly use it for basic usage (not gaming) and for that purpose, it's still OK. I looked at CPU upgrades, but as mentioned in the video, other options simply aren't worth it.
I have in the old pc an athlox x4 845(similar performance with 860k). Preety cool video to see if the cpu still holds up
This video is great as is usual from RandomGaminginHD.
Good stuff Maynard
CEX should be sponsoring your videos
About to put together a dedicated GTA V potato so I can play when I'm traveling for work, featuring an AMD Phenom ii X4 810, 4gb of DDR2, and a GTX 260.
I specially wanted to make a machine that would play the game at about 720p30, so I would appreciate my main rig (Ryzen 7 2700, GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB ram) more when I get home. Lol. Should make a good submission to RMR.
I have this Corsair TX650M, but it's an older version and it doesn't have the bronze, silver or gold rate 80 plus but it's powerful and overkill as this newer model.
i did regret buying the 860k at first, but used it for along time till i went Ryzen and got an old intel Build around the same time Athlon 860k came out and never looked back, 860k still deos very well if you plan to use it for streaming and average use
i did play doom 2016, RE5, RE6,RE4, Deuz Ex, Thief 2014, Sleepless Dogs, and they played pretty good on that chip
Tbh this still looks like good value for money. With that price you have money left for a new motherboard and cpu.
ive just upgraded from a athlon x4 845 to ryzen 5 2600 Soooooo glad i did
Nice machine. And video. :) Nice CPU bottleneck too.
If you wanted to turn this into a budget rig i'd personally throw in a cheap matx b450 and one of the new 1600 af cpus (2600 with gen 1 imc..)
+ DDR4 RAM?
@@JT-ko2ib Well yeah obviously, just throw a cheap 3000 mhz kit in?. Would still be a relatively cheap upgrade and would stomp all over the i3 mentioned?
@@FredsRandomFinds It's a good option. i3 is pretty redundant now, unless you get a really good deal on the latest generation.
I miss CEX
I personally keep all the unneeded PSU cables in the box, which goes in the attic, with all the other boxes and extra screws, accessories, etc.
The 2 year warranty CEX offer is good (presuming they honour it)
The Ahtlon x4 860k was my very fist CPU! I've made sure to keep it, the motherboard, memory and graphics card all these years later.
Sanity Logic what’s the other bits
@@Jack-fb6sr FM2A88M Pro3+, XFX R9 380 Double Dissipation 2GB, I had 2x4gb team group DDR3 sticks at 1600 mhz, 1TB Seagate drive which died fairly quickly but served me well, and a 600 watt evga bronze psu. All put into a Deepcool Tesseract case. Cable management was shiet, and it was loud due to stock cooler, but I got by and had fun doing it.
7:24 the one madlad with an 800MHz Ryzen 3600
I like this one. I have an AMD Phenom II X6 Cpu and a Gtx 660 Gfx card.. so this computer is similar to mine, where i have 6 cores and this one has 4 cores
Some time ago I found an Asus Essentio desktop M51BC PC (dumpster find) has an AMD FX 8300 & Radeon R9 255. Still runs - needs cleaning, thermal paste reapplied, etc. Has Win 8 on the HDD, but I am leaning towards getting say, a 250GB SSD, and a better GPU, like an R9 280, 290, 580, or a 7850. Thank you 🤓
This is litterally the configuration i had before swapping my mobo cpu and ram out a couple months back. Now i have a i3-9100f
@Gaming Central plays I've heard the desktop i3's are actually pretty good. I've only ever had laptop Intel CPUs.
@@greasysteve5671 Yes, even the i3 8100 can handle something up to a gtx 1660. Of course you will have a little less fps than if you had a very good CPU, but still
Not really PC related, but the weather in UK does not look like a winter at all. Pretty much the same as here in the Czech Republic.
Well, if you're on a tight budget you probably also would buy a second hand monitor thats native 720p, to squeeze as much performance as you can get out of the build. But yes, i once made a build with the same cpu, since i found an old amd hd 7850 in my storage, and i too were experiencing problems when it came to cpu intensive tasks.
An M-Disc drive? Already a good start!
the new budget king GPU is by far the 1650 as it doesn't require external power!
Rx 570 always remained a budget king. Lower price than both 1650 or 1050 ti, but its tdp is 150W.
But i can agree, 1650 is quite powerful, knowing it uses only pcie power.
i just upgraded my FM2 pc from overclockers i had the A8 6600k and after putting a gtx1050ti 4gb its would still play most games this socket isent as bad as you think if you get an A10 7+++ cpu and 16gb ram they overclock very well and stay cool on stock cooling i got my 6600k up to 4.2ghz and never had any problems plus if you have a crossfire enabled amd card from say 7000 series it could be tricked into crossfire with the apu
i always find myself watching your videos
Ayyyy! its my board and cpu lineup, i just got in some used parts to upgrade from that board and my athlon 880k, what a terribly unsupported socket n board, theres barely any upgrade paths that are worth it, better to get a used i5 n board cuz u can then re use the ram etc like ive done :D Those athlons are GTX 480 of the cpu world, mine had 4Ghz ran at 75+ C with idles of 50s on an aftermarket cooler..it is really a terrible platform
Something seems wrong with that setup. The 860k is a 4-core CPU.. but is showing up in Cinebench as 2C/4T. It should realistically show up better in terms of score. You might want to verify all the BIOS settings. Also, the 860k has an unlocked multiplier.. so you should be able to OC it quite easily with little effort. Why not go for it? While you're at it, find some cheap RAM heat spreaders and OC that RAM as well. The 860k can support 1866 RAM if I'm not mistaken.
I built a friend a computer with this CPU and he still using it today. Sadly he has a lot of health issues and is super poor. If it wasn't for section 8 housing he'd be on the street. He just has enough money to buy food for a month at the 99 cent store and pay utilities with the, "I'm F***ing poor discount" from a lot of them(thanks to food stamps). So unless he somehow gets a job sitting down and get a ride to and fro, he'll be using this computer til it explodes.
I even at one point tried to help using some spear parts, but that venture didn't pan out and so I ended losing money in the long run.