The craziest thing about autonomous: they had a Kickstarter campaign to fund the development of an already existing chair (all their chairs are just rebrands) :-D the kinn/pro+ is in fact the Merryfair Reya
Or…maybe….Just maybe…I didn’t know? Haha. Anyways, I put out a list of my top recommended chairs every year. Needless to say, this chair hasn’t been on any of my lists. I’ve learned that if you want to buy from a company that doesn’t drop ship chairs, be ready to spend $900+. And if you think OMG HERMAN MILLER IS THE WAY TO GO…the aeron costs them like $150 to make and they sell for $1800. So yeah…
I found that you can tighten the arm width adjustment by tightening the two screws/bolts underneath the armrest pads (access for the bottom) using a hex key. I've been using the Kinn/Ergochair Pro+/Reya chair for over a year and have not much of an issue with loose arm rests in forever.
@@igotsickieatlight dunno bout Ahnestly, but mine’s still fine. Going strong. Word of caution, don’t let the seat be pushed as far back as it can go. It WILL rub against the back.
Sometimes, the way, TH-cam notifies me about these replies, makes it so that I can’t see what video or chair this comment is under. Also, I’m using voice to text so sorry if it’s sloppy.
@@Ahnestly im more curious how you have a seperate room for this, all these chairs. The desk....how do you afford it lol and what am I missing...oh and sweet computer!
The chair by sight doesn’t look like a chair I would be happy with. I’m not a fan of stiff chairs for the computer. It’s a place I go to relax and play games, watch movies and such. The desk is beautiful and I do like standing option that goes with it. The one thing I would add is a 30” sliding keyboard and mouse tray. That would make it a perfect straight forward desk for gaming and media computer enthusiast. Cool subject matter for the video. Great job explaining them both.
It's weird what Autonomous did with that chair. When it first came out, it was called the "kinn" chair and it was 400 bucks. That seems more like what that chair is worth. They didn't change anything but the name and upped the price 300 bucks. I will say that I have the smart desk 2 and I love it. It's been great.
Autonomous chairs are rebranded ergnonomic chairs from some Asian manufacturer. I'm absolutely not surprised by any other shady business practices they may partake in.
Formerly knows as the Embody ripoff? Jokes aside, lovely setup and thank you for the discount code. I have an Aeron, looking into the Embody, probly not gonna spend 1200 for a HM Nevi desk, expecially because i want to choose a very deep tabletop. My main doubt was how low can these desks get? I dont want the armrests not to be aligned with the desk, and i sit in the Aeron at the lowest setting. THX
@@Ahnestly yeah yeah saw that part, still feel my armrests would have to be slightly too high for my taste. Will take some measurements with my current setup, HM Nevi goes as down as 65cm
Honestly (no pun intended), the desk looks incredible and really does stand out as a piece of decor. I might pick one up but already spent a leg for my fully desk. I don't see any links for what you used under the desk for cable management, what did you end up using specifically?
Haha great eye. So I had this mesh thing already and decided to repurpose it as a cable holder - think of it like a giant pouch. I tried to find something comparable, but can only see this super overpriced thing amzn.to/2UKV3Bv. Then, I just used these cable hiders amzn.to/3kOmVzm with these cable tie down clips - amzn.to/36Z6Tui The only real problem is that a lot of this isn't paint friendly...so i expect to lose a lot of paint later, but i have a can of paint left over so can easily patch it up. Also, I had to leave a lot of slack out of the main power strip so it could extend from top to bottom which is why it doesnt look super clean, but compared to what it was before, I am totally good with it!
Thanks for this review of the Ergochair +. I have been looking at one for a bit and now I know it's probably not for me. But that desk though ... I gotta have one. Also, there's a weird audio issue at the 9:59 or 10:00 mark.
The biggest con is that it creaks like old floorboards. Sure this chair is a stunner. It looks great. It's even fairly comfortable - not nearly as much as the marketing would have you believe but passable. It's just... Weirdly loud. Any movement at all and there's this loud creaking. Lean back? It's like you're relaxing on a ghost ship. Come back up? Is that a rickety bridge about to collapse? Barely shift in your seat? It's your own horror movie and guess who's at the door! All of this was tolerable considering how great this chair looks; until I started working from home. Every call. Every client. "What was THAT??" You know who doesn't care how nice your chair looks? Any of the dozen callers I talk to every day. I REALLY wish I'd returned the chair within the return window. Back when it was just me, the creaks, and my imagination. I finally just pushed the it to another side of the room. Such a waste.
First off, nice video. Secondly, do you think this chair is worth it new for $250-$300? I'm 6' 3" and 245 lbs and worry this will be too short for me. Thoughts? Thanks!
LOL i get asked this question a lot! I'm making an office setup (going to be delayed as I'm pretty banged up right now) but should be out in the next week!
Great video! Do you have a Secretlab TITAN Evo 2022 Series coming your way? I'd be highly interested in an in-depth review since they have implemented better features for ergonomics with the new series, I am wondering if it's worth it. Thanks 😊
@@Ahnestly Amazing to hear! A part in which you compare the Titan 2022 to the Embody, Neue Chair... would be great too. Thanks for letting me know, can't wait for the video :)
I don’t think they rebranded someone else’s chair, I think it’s more like a factory makes a chair, and then brands can buy/brand it as they see fit. From what I know, companies can request changes from the factory default (aesthetic to functional), and then the difference between buying the chair from one company vs another would be the level of customer service/warranty. No different than buying a USB cables or phone cases.
Don't know why but from 15:43 to 16:00 is awkwardly.... funny? Especially seeing Dan just kind of sit there 😂. Check out Dan and the guys out at The Blind Guys Channel for slightly better videos!
I don’t think that I would go with the Kinn chair. I have the Logitech Embody chair and I don’t see a need to change the chair. I will however collect more HM chairs though. Dan! I would love to see some videos on the Cosm or the Setu chair. They are the next two chairs I would want to buy. Thanks.
Ehhh no haha. I think there are much better chairs for the price now that I’ve tested a lot. I’d pick the Breck over this or an open box Soji from Crandall office (hope this helps - please consider using my links if you pick up!)
@SmoreOfWhatAceFFF ya I still think it’s a solid chair and with good warranty. It’s making it onto my top chair recommendations list again! Video for that should be out tomorrow!
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@@Ahnestly at 0:51 if you look halfway between the legs of the table going down the wall right behind where your hands are is the cable I'm talking about. Your left hand is "touching" it. It also appears more clearly at 11:53 and from 11:36 to 15:15
@@jalabi99 ahh that’s not a curly cable! It’s the cable of the power strip but “curled up” so the table can extend without everything popping out of their sockets lol
I do not understand why would people need flexing in chair. You sit in one position and if u are fancy, you cross legg or something. But at that point you abadon any idea of eronomic. I think its there because the back rest is tall, i.e. above your shoulders and they would like to avoid the tall back pushing your shoulders I think. I have one this chair with tall back and its exactly what its doing, pushing my shoulders forward. On top of it, its concave.
That's a good question - the flex is subtle and it helps a bit with comfort. You said you liked the Aeron in your other comment. Well the Aeron being mesh, it flexes and contorts to your back. Fabric contorts too, but often times, they use a foam which doesn't contort as well and can cause soreness. The flexing of the chair when you stretch isn't necessary, but what's cool is that when you sit with the seat straight up, it actually has some give without the chair leaning back, which might work better for some people's necks (so you're not turtle necking as hard)
@@Ahnestly Good point, when I tried the Embody I felt that give is either reallly subtle, that I did not notice it, or I had to really push with my back (which I felt like that would be bad for me). I wish Aeron had normal sit pan. Even now I write this comment with one leg beneath my ass and other banded intron of me. Call me crazy, but in this position my hand stops hurting, the moment i sit "straight", my hand starts burning. Thats one reason i am looking for a better chair among other things.
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The craziest thing about autonomous: they had a Kickstarter campaign to fund the development of an already existing chair (all their chairs are just rebrands) :-D the kinn/pro+ is in fact the Merryfair Reya
They buy dropshipped chairs
Wow! Thanks for being actually ahnest and not biased. Wish this creator was honest about the products.
@@scarfacesf yea isn't it funny when whatever kind of creator or influencer has "honest" or "truth" in their name or title are usually full of shit
Or…maybe….Just maybe…I didn’t know? Haha. Anyways, I put out a list of my top recommended chairs every year. Needless to say, this chair hasn’t been on any of my lists.
I’ve learned that if you want to buy from a company that doesn’t drop ship chairs, be ready to spend $900+. And if you think OMG HERMAN MILLER IS THE WAY TO GO…the aeron costs them like $150 to make and they sell for $1800. So yeah…
I found that you can tighten the arm width adjustment by tightening the two screws/bolts underneath the armrest pads (access for the bottom) using a hex key. I've been using the Kinn/Ergochair Pro+/Reya chair for over a year and have not much of an issue with loose arm rests in forever.
Nice!
how is it now ? I have seen reviews where the mesh gets destroyed on the back
@@igotsickieatlight dunno bout Ahnestly, but mine’s still fine. Going strong. Word of caution, don’t let the seat be pushed as far back as it can go. It WILL rub against the back.
Sometimes, the way, TH-cam notifies me about these replies, makes it so that I can’t see what video or chair this comment is under. Also, I’m using voice to text so sorry if it’s sloppy.
@@Ahnestly it’s the Autonomous Kinn/Ergochair Pro+ and their standing desk
Bro your hard work on this channel does not go unrecognized. One day you will be one of the “big” channels. Trust.
Thank you!’
@@Ahnestly im more curious how you have a seperate room for this, all these chairs. The desk....how do you afford it lol and what am I missing...oh and sweet computer!
The chair by sight doesn’t look like a chair I would be happy with. I’m not a fan of stiff chairs for the computer. It’s a place I go to relax and play games, watch movies and such.
The desk is beautiful and I do like standing option that goes with it. The one thing I would add is a 30” sliding keyboard and mouse tray. That would make it a perfect straight forward desk for gaming and media computer enthusiast. Cool subject matter for the video. Great job explaining them both.
Sliding tray? Link me please. TH-cam may auto delete so please email to ahntouragemedia@gmail.com
It's weird what Autonomous did with that chair. When it first came out, it was called the "kinn" chair and it was 400 bucks. That seems more like what that chair is worth. They didn't change anything but the name and upped the price 300 bucks.
I will say that I have the smart desk 2 and I love it. It's been great.
Autonomous chairs are rebranded ergnonomic chairs from some Asian manufacturer. I'm absolutely not surprised by any other shady business practices they may partake in.
I don't see any Kinn chair anymore but now a Pro+ for $699
Yeah Kinn was changed to that name and the price increased by 400 bucks. No real changes to the product at all.
Your PC is a thing of beauty.
Tell my wallet that :-\ lol
If you want to save yourself some money on a sit-stand desk, the Monoprice desk is a good value. I’ve had it for nearly 6 months and it’s been great.
Aka Merryfair Reya. Also found in Europe under HJH Skope name for a much more reasonable price.
Thanks, crazy the markup they charge
Formerly knows as the Embody ripoff? Jokes aside, lovely setup and thank you for the discount code. I have an Aeron, looking into the Embody, probly not gonna spend 1200 for a HM Nevi desk, expecially because i want to choose a very deep tabletop. My main doubt was how low can these desks get? I dont want the armrests not to be aligned with the desk, and i sit in the Aeron at the lowest setting. THX
I believe I put that in the video in the max/min height section! I show what that looks like with me being 5'6 Min is 26" max is 51.6"
@@Ahnestly yeah yeah saw that part, still feel my armrests would have to be slightly too high for my taste. Will take some measurements with my current setup, HM Nevi goes as down as 65cm
Honestly (no pun intended), the desk looks incredible and really does stand out as a piece of decor. I might pick one up but already spent a leg for my fully desk.
I don't see any links for what you used under the desk for cable management, what did you end up using specifically?
Haha great eye. So I had this mesh thing already and decided to repurpose it as a cable holder - think of it like a giant pouch. I tried to find something comparable, but can only see this super overpriced thing amzn.to/2UKV3Bv. Then, I just used these cable hiders amzn.to/3kOmVzm with these cable tie down clips - amzn.to/36Z6Tui
The only real problem is that a lot of this isn't paint friendly...so i expect to lose a lot of paint later, but i have a can of paint left over so can easily patch it up.
Also, I had to leave a lot of slack out of the main power strip so it could extend from top to bottom which is why it doesnt look super clean, but compared to what it was before, I am totally good with it!
Thanks for this review of the Ergochair +. I have been looking at one for a bit and now I know it's probably not for me. But that desk though ... I gotta have one. Also, there's a weird audio issue at the 9:59 or 10:00 mark.
Yeah i would have been more positive about it at the $400 price point, but $700 is really opens the market.
The biggest con is that it creaks like old floorboards. Sure this chair is a stunner. It looks great. It's even fairly comfortable - not nearly as much as the marketing would have you believe but passable. It's just... Weirdly loud. Any movement at all and there's this loud creaking.
Lean back? It's like you're relaxing on a ghost ship. Come back up? Is that a rickety bridge about to collapse? Barely shift in your seat? It's your own horror movie and guess who's at the door!
All of this was tolerable considering how great this chair looks; until I started working from home. Every call. Every client. "What was THAT??" You know who doesn't care how nice your chair looks? Any of the dozen callers I talk to every day.
I REALLY wish I'd returned the chair within the return window. Back when it was just me, the creaks, and my imagination. I finally just pushed the it to another side of the room. Such a waste.
More like DAMN Ahn, that intro tho! That was some really nice work!
HAHAHAHAHAHA I love it. Thanks!!!
First off, nice video. Secondly, do you think this chair is worth it new for $250-$300?
I'm 6' 3" and 245 lbs and worry this will be too short for me. Thoughts?
Thanks!
What are the full dimensions of the desktop you got from MarcoPolo Woodworks? It looks nice!
Thanks! Mine was made to my requested dimensions 30" X 70" and 1" thick - but you can get it whatever l x w you want!
which carpet do you use? I am searching for a good carpet myself
LOL i get asked this question a lot! I'm making an office setup (going to be delayed as I'm pretty banged up right now) but should be out in the next week!
Great video! Do you have a Secretlab TITAN Evo 2022 Series coming your way? I'd be highly interested in an in-depth review since they have implemented better features for ergonomics with the new series, I am wondering if it's worth it. Thanks 😊
Yup! You should see a review in the next few weeks!
@@Ahnestly Amazing to hear! A part in which you compare the Titan 2022 to the Embody, Neue Chair... would be great too. Thanks for letting me know, can't wait for the video :)
@@Ahnestly Lol. Of course I find the confirmation of a review in the pipeline a few days after I ordered mine. Oh well.
Just discovered the MayfairReya today. Looks like that is actually this chair, right? Autonomous rebranded someone else’s chair, right?
I don’t think they rebranded someone else’s chair, I think it’s more like a factory makes a chair, and then brands can buy/brand it as they see fit. From what I know, companies can request changes from the factory default (aesthetic to functional), and then the difference between buying the chair from one company vs another would be the level of customer service/warranty. No different than buying a USB cables or phone cases.
This chair or embody which one you going with?
Embody any day every day!!!
are you still using the keycrhon k8, because that keycap set looks brilliant
Yessir! These are actually pretty cheap white keycaps from Ducky that allow RGB to passthrough. I'll link you them if you're interested!
Don't know why but from 15:43 to 16:00 is awkwardly.... funny? Especially seeing Dan just kind of sit there 😂. Check out Dan and the guys out at The Blind Guys Channel for slightly better videos!
Slightly better videos!!!
David Zhang? Who's that? We talking about David Bak 😎 lets go @theblindguys!
LOL what
Is there any lumbar support?
The ErgoChair Pro+ is the 2.5 version..right?????
Hahaha not really. totally different chair. It's a rebrand of their Kinn chair
I've been thinking about getting this chair and leaving my gaming chair, cause i need a ergonomic one.
Don't. Overpriced compared to what else is out there!
@@Ahnestly What option would you recommend?
@@Thepunki26 Depends on your budget and where you live.
FOUND IT! lol thanks dude!
Try to focus on budget alternative 600$ for a chair it's too much
I don’t think that I would go with the Kinn chair. I have the Logitech Embody chair and I don’t see a need to change the chair. I will however collect more HM chairs though. Dan! I would love to see some videos on the Cosm or the Setu chair. They are the next two chairs I would want to buy. Thanks.
Haha i'll try for sure...maybe i'll tackle those next after my steelcase videos!
Did they fix the super hard arm rests(
Website has earlybird special for ultra 2 for $399 with an upgrade to the seat. Think that is worth it?
Ehhh no haha. I think there are much better chairs for the price now that I’ve tested a lot. I’d pick the Breck over this or an open box Soji from Crandall office (hope this helps - please consider using my links if you pick up!)
@@Ahnestly Thank you! Is the branch ergonomic still a contender lol
@SmoreOfWhatAceFFF ya I still think it’s a solid chair and with good warranty. It’s making it onto my top chair recommendations list again! Video for that should be out tomorrow!
@@Ahnestly thank you! Just subscribed
I'm about to take the same route (frame + my own top) but I don't know if I need to have different screws if the table top will be 1.5inch.. Any idea?
You can if you want, but I think the screws should be just fine.
@@Ahnestly thank you. OK I wld just use the same then. Just want to make sure they'll be deep enough in to hold the block of wood I'll use.
Where's your mousepad?
Waiting for my glass topper to get here
what is that stool you are sitting on
have you done a video about your pc build??
Hey! It’s not short, but the first few minutes will show the breakdown of parts.
My DREAM PC Build is Complete - Lian Li O11, Intel 10900k, Asus Strix RTX 3090, Lian Li Strimers
th-cam.com/video/lV4sNUGDD8Y/w-d-xo.html
I changed the fans out though, which is what you see on this video. Here’s a video on that
Lian Li Unifan AL120 | They’re Freaking Gorgeous
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ganda.. malapad yung upuan at sandalan.. kaso pag nag purchase online dito sa pinas napaka expensive nya.
What's that curly cable you used to plug the desk into the wall?
Curly cable? The only curly cable is on the keyboard
@@Ahnestly at 0:51 if you look halfway between the legs of the table going down the wall right behind where your hands are is the cable I'm talking about. Your left hand is "touching" it. It also appears more clearly at 11:53 and from 11:36 to 15:15
@@jalabi99 ahh that’s not a curly cable! It’s the cable of the power strip but “curled up” so the table can extend without everything popping out of their sockets lol
@@Ahnestly oh that makes sense! thanks!
ergochair pro+ or steelcase amia?
Never ever go ergochair pro+. Amia ALL the way
I bet 10$ that Dan will talk about smell in this video. Not watched it yet.
Hahahaha I didn't. This one was a bit rushed bc I just got back from vacation
I do not understand why would people need flexing in chair. You sit in one position and if u are fancy, you cross legg or something. But at that point you abadon any idea of eronomic. I think its there because the back rest is tall, i.e. above your shoulders and they would like to avoid the tall back pushing your shoulders I think. I have one this chair with tall back and its exactly what its doing, pushing my shoulders forward. On top of it, its concave.
That's a good question - the flex is subtle and it helps a bit with comfort. You said you liked the Aeron in your other comment. Well the Aeron being mesh, it flexes and contorts to your back. Fabric contorts too, but often times, they use a foam which doesn't contort as well and can cause soreness. The flexing of the chair when you stretch isn't necessary, but what's cool is that when you sit with the seat straight up, it actually has some give without the chair leaning back, which might work better for some people's necks (so you're not turtle necking as hard)
@@Ahnestly Good point, when I tried the Embody I felt that give is either reallly subtle, that I did not notice it, or I had to really push with my back (which I felt like that would be bad for me).
I wish Aeron had normal sit pan. Even now I write this comment with one leg beneath my ass and other banded intron of me.
Call me crazy, but in this position my hand stops hurting, the moment i sit "straight", my hand starts burning. Thats one reason i am looking for a better chair among other things.
$700!? It's $400 now.
Oh Lord Jesus that chair is 599 pounds :-o
Yeah man...pricey pricey
imagine how many cushions you could buy for $600euros no thanks.
Great video but man sad that a small creator can provide more of a discount than a huge company that makes rip off rebranded chairs. Greedy greedy
One day....one day....
@@Ahnestly we hope, I just won’t support a company like that. I mean Herman Miller provides 10% to 15% and they are way bigger.
That's ahnestly an Embody knock-off. Sorry.
First of all, love how you spelled ahnestly correctly. Second, it's the slightly rich person's embody, since $700 is still really expensive!
Ergochair pro is trash, seat is sooo hard cuz you bottom it out and sit on the bottom plastic.
This is the ergochair pro+. it's a different chair
Autonomous chairs are cheap Chinese garbage that are re-branded from what OEMs manufacture.