ABOUT THE WATER BOTTLE - I accidentally left the water bottle I used for this test in my car (in the hot sun) and it deformed. I didn't have another one and had to film. This was not an attempt to exaggerate wobble. I have plenty of other things on the desks so you can see everything else wobble. *Links + Coupon Codes Below* - Please use them as it costs you nothing, but helps keep the channel going! *DeskHaus (USA)* *IF YOU'RE USING A VPN, THE COUPON CODES WON'T WORK! Please turn off before using!* 🛒DeskHaus Apex Pro - geni.us/knBZtw Use code *Ahnestly* for $50 off 🛒DeskHaus Detroit Desk - geni.us/YVjBAy Use code *AhnestlyDetroit* for $25 off
@noahp6886 Thanks for the heads up! TH-cam being stupid...links that get too long get truncated and route you to the wrong place! I just used a link converter to make them shorter and yes, deals + codes all still work!
It was like that for the better part of 2 years. I finally managed to get to a point where I have a studio...full of desks and chairs. Every day I walk through the maze of chairs and desks and look at my monthly bill for my studio and wonder...why didn't I just review gaming mice!!?!?
I bought the Apex Pro from Desk Haus over a year ago (price has gone up since). I love the thing. It's a tank and there have been no issues. I am using a 72x30 dark rubberwood butcher block from Lowes. Best investment ever.
Thank you for this review. I’ve been wanting to build my own desk for quite awhile since working 100% remote and this video helped me so much! It definitely validated and answered many of the concerns I had with the various desk bases and the other options of buying a whole pre-made desk. I just bought the apex pro with your discount code- I appreciate the saving a few dollars and more than happy to support you in creating great videos like this one :)
Yes, those double legs really make it sturdy. The other critical component is the horizontal brace that connects the legs. My Uplift Conference Desk is like that, only the legs are spaced further apart than the Deskhaus which makes it even more sturdy!
I just ordered the DeskHaus Apex Pro because of you. Thank you for making this video and enabling me to get a $50 discount (since I used your code). I can't wait to get the frame and put my desk together.
First of all, thank YOU for the kind words. Also, using my coupon earns me small commission, which helps me keep making videos like these. Thank you!!!! And I know you’re gonna love it!!
@@Ahnestly I mean, I thought it was pretty clear that I was joking but if you felt the need to defend yourself by behaving perfunctory as a response now im suspicious 👀
@@decisive-dolphinIts always difficult to tell whether a comment is being hostile or joking. More so bc it was like 4 words! I admit, I did assume your comment was hostile to the OP who was showing kindness. Because of that, my comment was asking “why do you feel the need to be hostile to someone who’s being kind?”, but also, I was genuinely hoping your days would be filled with kindness! I prob misread your comment bc I’m dumb (I had to look up ‘perfunctory’ lol). In any case, I saw you commented on my other vid and thank you for your support. I hope the stability test at the end of this video speaks for itself and let me know how you like it!
I waited for a sale and got the 60"x30" from Vari for under $600 with tax. I use it around 45" when standing and it is very stable. No wobble unless I'm actively trying to shake the desk; even then I only get a little monitor shake. The Deskhaus 20-year leg warranty is pretty sick though.
I would imagined the L-shaped desks are much, much more stable by the nature of their geometry. Would love to see your reviews on these. Btw, this video was an eye opener. Thank you for your top notch review and Ahnesty. :-)
I, myself, am looking at the Fezibo Triple Motor L-shaped 63 with the Ergonomic Monitor stand shelf that goes the full L. Yes, it's a budget model but still at the $500-$600 range. Would love to hear what you have to say about this.
I wish I could say definitively, but I'm not sure! I do imagine it would help though, but I'm always surprised by the things I find when actually testing!
I’m glad someone is finally bringing Deskhaus to the conversation. I’ve had their Apex Pro with a walnut butcher block island countertop for almost 2 years now and it’s blown every other desk I’ve had out of the water. So much so I’ve sold my Fully Jarvis and will be making mine into an L shaped version
Flexispot makes the E7Q "Odin" now that also has the quad motor quad leg design, and it's arguably even more robust than this design because the legs are pushed all the way out to the corners of the frame. AND it goes just as low as this desk. I'd love to see a comparison between that and the Deskhaus Apex Pro.
@allen7615 the starting price of uplift 4 leg with laminate top (30x60) is $1,200. Desk Haus with a real rubber wood top (30x60) is $1052 with my code ($1,100 without code). The Evodesk is over 2x the price. Looks fancy, but quite pricey! Other factors to consider: Desk Haus is made in America and In terms of warranty and customer service, I’ve seen desk haus really active on both Standing Desk and Desk Haus forums. Uplift is not made in America, not sure what their customer service is like. I don’t know much about Evodesk unfortunately!
I think people who are looking at these desks are individuals like myself who work from home and game / stream. This isnt a desk for anyone who just wants a basic desk and seems to be the solid take i find going around. Most people complaining about expensive motorized desks are not paying more than $3-500 and my chair alone is almost $600 because i work from home.
Incredible. I was considering pulling the trigger on the Magnus, but now I'm sold on getting an Apex Pro and using is it to build the perfect setup for my needs. Kudos
This is a good question and I'm not sure what the answer is. The finish is slightly sheen, but I don't ever feel comfortable leaving a glass of water bare on top of any wood surface. I always use a coaster!
I'm actually in shock about the Magnus Pro, I basically had my credit card in hand to buy it but didn't even think it would be so unstable. Stability in the desk is top priority for me as you mentioned, I have tens of thousands of dollars of equipment on my desk and use it every day for long periods of time.
Hi @ahnestly!! A wonderful review! I just wanted to ask, could you let us know what size is your table top and where did you buy it? I really like the size of it but when I clicked on the coupon of them offering it, it is empty :( any feedback is appreciated! Thank you!
Thanks for this info. I’ve been looking at getting the Samsung ARK monitor & have been hesitant due to the stability, weight capacity & desktop size options. However you just pointed me in the right direction to solve all my problems!!
Bless you bless you bless you!!!! Yes I have a computer but it’s connected to very expensive, sensitive electronics. I am not a content creator but very similar needs to stand a lot mainly because of a handy cap that standing is the best for me. Everything I have seen , wouldn’t call them junk , but the wiggling is far too much especially for what they are asking. So yes they are junk for what they are asking for them . Not looking for low cost looking for a great product at a fair price. And the DESKHAUS looks like exactly what might fit my needs and pocket book. And coincidentally they are made only 30 miles North of me in Western Michigan. A win win. Thank you so much for making this great honest video . Greg
Nice!! You should email Chris and ask if you can visit his warehouse! When I went, he showed me all the standing desks from the various brands and we did shake comparisons. It was wild - even the $1,000+ desks from Steelcase, Herman Miller, etc - all wobbly!!
@@Ahnestlytalked to Derek today and friend driving me to get there 30x60 Apex Pro Max with a butcher board top in two days. Thank you again for your review and sending me to the best of the best.
What about the Nolan from Fully that has 4 regular post legs? I'm asking because it's the prettiest desk BY FAR! It's THE only standing desk that looks like a normal desk and not like an office desk
You said that the most stable is not necessarily the most expensive in the beginning, but Apex Pro legs alone are almost $1k add to that another ~$1k for the top, that's ~$2k without any accessory.
You don’t have to buy a table top from desk haus. Thats the beauty of it. You can buy a $20 table top from ikea if you wanted and just install it (literally just screw it in from the bottom). The $1k table top is a real wood table top - you can purchase something like this at a later time. What you won’t be able to purchase is more stable legs.
6/24/2024 - Like your style and how you keep it real. Looking for a stand up desk for my 6' boyfriend who works from home and his 50 year-ol body needs a better way to spend 8 hours each day. He sits. I love the stability point - so true. Thank you for being you and providing these fun video reviews. (Tennessee)
more weight would shift the center of gravity UP and the higher it is the more you got to unstable equilibrium. This is school level physics. Why would anyone assume it would be stable equilibrium ? This is also why CARS try to keep the CG low to attain better equilibrium
It’s almost like buying an expensive mattress. Quality sleep is critical. I spend 8 hours a day at a desk. A STABLE, standing / sitting is worth its weight in gold.
I just purchased this, as a game developer I spend a lot of time at my desk. 10-12 hours a day sometimes. It’s best to make sure my desk is comfortable and secure.
That's just the stand. If you want a desktop to work off of you have to pay extra. Cheapest option of the 3 is $245 with high pressure laminate. The other 2 are wood and go for $1,125 & $1,375.
Recommend you watch the whole video! You can buy ANY desktop for it, and not the ones on deskhaus. You can go to ikea and buy a $20 table top if you wanted. You just drill the table top in (there are holes in the base where you just screw the top into). Then if you ever wanna buy a nicer top or change the look, you can. Compare that to companies that have table tops that you NEED to buy from their company
I believe mine is the 27.5". As for table tops, you can go from anything cheapo at Ikea to getting a custom table top done! Desk Haus lists the width to be 43-80" on the 27.5" footsize
Great review! Did I miss you going over measurements? I didn't see how one gets a custom top from them as opposed to the prefab blocks, but how difficult would it be to drill and install your own custom wooden top? 30" depth is too little, 36" is much better
Hey! I don't think they offer custom tops, but you could always reach out to their customer service and see if they do it. Installing your own desktop is SUPER easy. align the desk how you want it, then just screw in from the bottom. This is the main benefit - you don't need to buy a top from them, can go get your own cheapo one from Ikea or crazy uber expensive end game one elsewhere!
@@Ahnestly Wow ok awesome!! One final thing, do you know what thickness a butcher block should have for this purpose and why? 1.5" +? Is there any advantage to thicker blocks other than higher weight capacity? Seems like a block that size would weigh ~100lbs, while the deskhaus legs can hold 650
@@thunderstar254 Thicker is usually better if you're going to weigh it down. A thinner top will flex easier than a thicker one. 1.5" sounds great as a minimum!
I'm not about to power kick my desk. I'm not about to shake the desk as if I'm choking it to death. Secret Lab Magnus Pro XL is perfect. The whole cable rats nest being tucked away out of sight with the built in power connector is a must. I've never had any stability issue but then again I'm not trying to fight my desk 😂
I bought the desk after your review, and this was the best decision I ever made!!! This product is SO amazing! I have been watching your video for over a year now, trying to find a chair. However, I just can't pull the trigger without trying the chair. Any suggestions as to where I can go to try those chairs? I am in Southern California
But it’s a standing desk. The whole idea is for it to go up and down. Putting it against a wall will cause it to bang up your wall or scratch the hell out of your paint!
I have been doing TONS of research on standing desks these past few days and settled on Deskhaus for their appearance of quality and care... but I cannot for the life of me find any comparisons between the Apex Pro (34 legs from this video) against the Apex (just two legs). There is a ~$400 price difference between two frames. Im 5'8" so the desks would probably need to be go up to ~43". Im not super stressed about some shake (I have an awful and shaky ikea normal desk and its never bothered me much). I decided to "risk" the two leg apex model and will update this comment on my findings and keep it ahnest.
nice vid brother!! I actually purchased the frame back in January and have not purchased a table top yet. I want one of theirs, but will need to pay for that later! But love these desks and their brand!! Such a solid brand!!!
Have you considered a slick glass desktop? I might do that. I would cut it so only the main section, including area with the monitors needs to rise up...maybe a nice 48" wide section. No need to stress the motors lifting a 60" or wider area everyday if it is not necessary IMO.
I recently bought an Uplift Adjustable Height Conference Desk - 8' x 3'-6" (96" x 42")with bamboo top. It's expandable to 9' x 3'-6" (108" x 42"). I have the expansion leaf but my room would be too cramped at the 9' length. I added heavy-duty casters so I can move the desk around. The desk is absolutely rock solid and sturdy. It has 4 heavy metal legs and horizontal support bars connecting two legs on each side. The desk is so heavy the instructions recommended that 4 people flip it over. I flipped in on my own but it was quite challenging. Shipping was amazing with everything properly padded and protected. The electrical operation is super smooth and I added a Bluetooth dongle so it can be controlled by an Android or iPhone. It all just works. If my room was larger I would have gotten the 9' x 5' (108" x 60") ping pong version. But my desk is big enough for back-to-back 48" OLED screens so I can sit on either side of the desk. The desk is freestanding. I want to do a review when everything is all set up because it is really something to see.
Happy for you! The biggest difference here between uplift and deskhaus is really the price, warranty, and where it’s made. After all, if it has 4 legs, well, they’re all gonna be similar! Hope you enjoy your setup!
I appreciate the review, but it's unfortunate that Deskhaus has their reviews managed by such an unprofessional individual. The review on the Magnus Pro XL was particularly disappointing; their attitude was so poor that I felt embarrassed for them. While their desks appear to be nice, I can't support a company that responds to criticism with insults and disparaging remarks, especially when it concerns products significantly cheaper than their top-of-the-line offerings. It’s quite off-putting.
@Ahnestly great video. I'm looking to DIY a standing desk my self. I was just so captivated the entire time by your monitor though. What is? Brand, model... Can you share a link for more details?
Using a 4K OLED TV as a Monitor? Watch this! th-cam.com/video/BLCCZQxQ3mM/w-d-xo.html Here you are! If you pick up things, please consider using my links to purchase! Helps the channel a lot! Excited for you and your DIY desk!!
If I'll be honest, if we're talking about features and functionality. I like the Secretlabs, stability is nice and everything. But being able to crouch on the floor, or stand as tall as you want is extras that don't need so much consideration. If I can get integrated controls for the desktop, gladly, if I can get a great cable management ecosystem, even better. If I can get a PSU that's jammed into the leg of the table, that's a game changer. I want things like this with Deskhaus, but simply put, their desks look like they need more to them, which is why I'm not willing to spend as much for one. When I can spend as much as I did, getting a secretlabs
I am the same way. I look at the review for SecretLabs Magnus pro, and the stability is a con for me. All their pros outweighs that one con for me though. Magnetic headphone holder, Pc mount, cable management, and all the other attachments they offer is amazing to have.
@bonanzabrandon6877 the point I'm making buddie is that they're all made and designed for office peripherals etc... they are not meant to be "leaned on" or sat on by people... In all my career I have never ever been to a site where a sit/stand has fallen over due to instability. People rocking the desks are simply being unrealistic in expectations. It comes down to actuator quality at the end of the day.
You say the desk only goes does down to 24.5". I just checked mine and the paddle displayed it was 23" and when I measured it, it was 23" (with my 1" top). It's a great desk.
Great video. I just wish there was a better space for art students and students in general because we usually never have the budget for the better desks 😭🙏🏾
Beautiful Setup - I'm currently in the process of building a house and it'll be done in 4 months. I'll have a dedicated office and I want my desk to be in the middle of the room. Like your setup, looks nice and clean, cables look OK, hoping to get them really well managed, I want to switch to a standing desk so I can have an under-desk treadmill and some additional flexibility as well. Do you have a setup for your PC/cables/etc? I just stumbled on your channel and looking to emulate what you got going on. Thanks! Looks like you have an external GPU setup too. :)
Like the only thing the Magnus has going for it is, it has a higher weight capacity which I don’t think most people think hmm can my desk support three people Great video dude :)
I appreciate the video! However, almost a grand for just the base of a motorized desk is a bit absurd. I thought paying a grand from the secret labs pro desk was absurd but deskhaus definitely takes the cake lol.
Well it depends on how much use you'll get out of it. Expensive yes, absurd, no. Someone working from home and regularly adjusting the height would benefit more than someone who uses it for a few hours after work. Same deal with high end chairs. I have a second hand aeron but bought a leap v2 brand new because I know i'm going to get a lot of use out of them. I didn't want to spend time and money exploring cheaper options. Something not discussed or mentioned were the motors. Some people value them a lot more and i've heard linak brand motors are the ones to aim for. The market is flooded with cheap chinese motors that overheat, are noisy or slow. I would want to know more about the motors before dropping that kind of cash.
I'm sure this is a beautiful desk but I have a Vivo desk that has served me well. It doesn't wobble unless I put weight behind it, it goes low, rises to a comfortable height, has presets, and you can buy accessories for it including wheels but note that wheels will rise the top by a few inches. It's less expensive but I am satisfied. I guess one should check out a variety.
Definitely. One thing that doesn't get discussed a lot in these reviews is exactly how you are using the desk. In my case I work in information technology and I have a laptop with a dock and a monitor. One monitor. It's all very light and all I want is something that is functional and good quality. I'm not looking for something that can lift 140 lb of Hardware up and down LOL
The major point of this video was to just showcase that paying a premium for “well known” desk brands (aka those that spend lots of $ on ads) does not get you a better desk when it comes to stability for people above 5’8. You can see in the tests with the other desks don’t have much weight on them, and they still wobble that hard!!
What do you think of the Apex Pro Max with the cross bracing? Overkill??? I'd just go for the Max but it adds a lot of weight to an already heavy base....
Personally, I’d say overkill, but that depends on your needs. The apex pro is a tank already. Keep in mind that there is no discount code for the pro max! And yes, legs are pretty heavy hahaha
A 20-year warranty is nice idea, but keep in that when a company goes out of business, its warranties and services often die unless other agreements have been made. Deskhaus was founded in 2020. I do hope they will be around in 20 years to honour their warranty!
man you hit the spot, i agree with your into i hate a wobbling desk. In your opinion would you think the DeskHaus Apex Pro would be better than FEXISPOT E7Q in terms of stablity?
Thank you for one of the best vids I've ever seen on standing desks. My desk wobbles, and I always assumed it's because my 70-year-old weak hands, with the help of my daughter, just didn't screw things together tight enough during assembly. I had no idea it was a common thing among all two-legged desks! On another note, I'm curious as to what monitor you are using as well as the stand (which appears to be two pieces, but hard to tell). I have a 34" and 27" monitor, and I've been wanting to go to something larger (ideally 48"), but every monitor I've looked at gets mixed reviews. So I'm curious if you're happy with yours, and if so, what it is exactly. Thanks again for a great vid! Karen 😊
First of all, SO COOL that you're way outside my usual demographic and looking into this stuff. I don't have a review on the screen, but I do talk about some highlights, as well as various hacks for using this as a monitor in this video! th-cam.com/video/BLCCZQxQ3mM/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps! Please reach out if you have any additional questions!!
@@Ahnestly - Wow, Dan. Thanks so much for the oh-so-speedy response! I'm old, not dead LOL. I still work full time (from home), doing a mix of legal transcription, copy editing, and a bit of geeky stuff. I love it, and I plan to work right up until they come to wheel me to the crematory LOL! I spend most of my discretionary $$$ on new toys for my office, so I always have my radar set high for new places to push the "Add to Cart" button LOL. I follow quite a few tech gurus and others who cover office-centric topics such as furniture, lighting, etc. I haven't come across you before, but I'm happy that I did stumble across you on my sidebar yesterday. I am now a subscriber, and I look forward to checking out your other vids. I suspect most of them, including you, could qualify to be my grandkids. That's okay. I love watching all of you! It keeps me young - as well as entertained and informed, as well as broke LOL. -Karen 😉 P.S. What a clever and cool channel name. I love it when people are able to incorporate their own names into creative and meaningful monikers to use for business or pleasure. Well done!
Do you have any insight into regular (not standing) desks with a wooden top? With the standing desk hype it's hard to find that more simple option with a nice wood finished top.
When looking for a new office or gaming setup item I always watch your videos. While these desks. I'm looking for a long table at least 72 in or 80" x 30 wide is there a brand that you would recommend?
Hey! Thanks for the super kind words!! Depends on what you're looking for. If a budget option, I believe Ikea has a couple options. Home Depot/Lowes may have some options too for particleboard I think. If you want solid wood, Desk Haus has their solid wood top (which you see in my video), which isn't cheap, but usually cheaper than boutique custom table top shops (since it's produced in mass). Highest tier option is to get it made at a boutique/wood shop!
@@jessecostello1406 I'm confused haha. Desk Haus Apex Pro + buying a 72x30 or 80x30 tabletop from another place is my go-to if you want most sturdy + solid customer service. Secretlab was shockingly unstable. Flexispot customer service is reported to be pretty awful. Uplift costs more than Desk Haus, but not as stable.
No thank you for you're always such wonderful timely replies. So if it comes down actually purchasing one thats put together already I think I will be staying with the uplift.
Nice video Dan. I purchased two fully jarvis bamboo desks and I regret it. I should have been patient and purchased the deskhaus. My fully desks aren't even stable at normal sitting height. I tend to keep my wrists/elbows on the desk when I type. When I do that, it pushes down on the desk way too much causing my monitors to wobble. In my opinion, that should not happen. My autonomous doesn't even do that. Either way, they are fine for now and at least they look nice.
Nothing a quick trip to Home Depot can't fix- easily. Do you have a wall nearby? I would arrange something- maybe a sliding rail track or two. Should be a fun weekend project. I am looking now. Any recommendations? I was thinking this or an autonomous frame. I will buy a glass top.
Bro, what do you do for a living? Because I break every project I ever take on for a living. I used to think I was cursed, but after you’ve broken as many things as I have, I’m pretty sure it’s a skill.
Why not reinforce it with $20 worth of supports from Home Depot...if you have it against at least one wall. That would stiffen it right up. I plan to do this.
@@Ahnestlybro, what are you doing with your desk that requires the level of stability you keep hammering on in your review? Because every time I use even the cheapest of standing desks as a fellow 5'6" King I do *not* run into any stability issues that you're claiming here in your review. As with @zealousbeing0178 and @zerofrost478 I'm planning on going secret labs for the vast number of pros it brings to the table: organization + cable management, size, integrated power, aesthetic, etc. I won't fight you on the warranty though, 20 years is nuts. Assuming they're still around in 20 years - that's a pretty beefy bet with a team of 4 but I'm here for it!
@@MOAB-UT while I too am a DIjunkY if you're spending serious cash on a product it should suit your needs out of the box. Not everything needs to be a project. I'm up to my ears in projects at home. I still give you a thumbs up for the argument given that I don't think stability *is* an issue personally. I just don't personally think if I buy something it's warranted to become a DIY. I want a solution, not a project if I'm spending that kind of money. Especially for something as commonly used as a desk.
You can buy any top you want! Desk Haus sells tops, but you could just go to an ikea or buy a table top off of amazon or Home Depot / Lowe’s for cheap., if you wanted something nicer, could do that as well now or later. Installing is super easy - just place it on top evenly, and get some screws and drill it in.
What do you think about IDÅSEN Desk sit/stand, black/dark gray, 63x311/2" - IKEA? Is this competitive to Apex? I was thinking to buy IDASEN but now I seen your video it made me make sure which one is the best in term of sturdiness
Interesting Concept but at the moment they don't ship to Canada so can't buy it (not interested in spending a bunch of extra money having it imported with a 3rd party middle man.)
I built my own using the autonomous pro legs on a completely custom desktop made of a rare maple. I have 3, 27" monitors attached to it AND 2 full size PCs on it. My gaming machine AND a server, both in full/mid size towers (Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL and an older NZXT) I also have a work laptop, mouse, keyboard and a VR headset on it. I'm 6ft tall, I have to raise it pretty high when I'm standing for work. I don't really experience the kind of wobble you are showing, not anywhere close. It's sitting on a flat, hard floor. So maybe you're exaggerating the wobble or the top of my desk is better at dealing with the movement, but I've been using it now for a couple years and it's been rock solid, one of the best decisions I've made since going WFH. Respectfully, you are doing the physics wrong. Having more weight on the table will reduce the amount of force it takes to wobble it a given distance. It will simply require more force than when it's empty. However, once you do get it wobbling, then it will stay in motion longer (Newtons 3rd law) I have probably 200lbs on/clamped to my desk (320lb max) and it doesn't wobble because I won't exert enough pressure to make it move. Sure, the monitors move but they're on arms and they'd wobble on the deskhaus because that's how frequency and vibrations work. Things extended out on an arm will work now more. But the desk itself, it takes A LOT to move, therefore it is stable UNTIL it is pushed hard enough. Which, I have several kids and I tend to lean on it, still haven't had that issue. But having 2 legs per side will do what you show. From years of experience, you're exaggerating the results and you got the math/physics wrong about weight.
I noted that all the desks in the video are on carpeted floor, which I think many people have as their setup. This is why I did NOT include my standing desks at home in the various comparison shots - it would not be apples to apples. However, In terms of front to back wobble, my autonomous ergo pro still wobbles quite a bit at the higher heights. When you’re working, you may not experience a lot of wobble, but try taking your hand and pushing the front edge of your table top hard a few times. That’ll get the desk going. It may translate to slight shakes when working, but if leaning or you bump or something, means a bigger wobble. I went to Desk Haus’ warehouse, checked all the bolts/screws, and shook them myself and saw how much even high end standing desks from Herman miller, steelcase, autonomous, uplift, etc all wobble
Hi @Ahnestly thank you for this review it is super helpful. I am in the market for a 4 legged standing desk and I'm interested to know your thoughts on other 4 legged standing desk as well, specifically the Flexispot Odin E7Q and the Uplift V2 four legged standing desk. Any thoughts on these and how they might compare to the Deskhaus Apex Pro?
So.... I hate you officially... First, the HM embody chair... which I got yesterday btw and it is very comfortable and a game changer not gonna lie. BUT NOW YOU GOT ME BUYING THIS! hahaha just got the grand rapids desk, my question is (and probably should have researched before buying) since it is hard wood and beautiful, how do you protect it from the monitors? and Im thinking of eventually mounting 2 super wide screens on top of each other.
ahahahahahaha YESSS. One of us...one of us... Congrats on those awesome pick ups!! As for protecting wood from monitors, you've got a couple options. The first is to go with a desk mount monitor arm, and they should usually come with some kinda rubber grippy pads that should help grip to your desk without damaging it. Keep in mind that rubber MAY leave some kinda residue there after a longggg period of time. If you want to just go with the original monitor legs, then similar resolution - try to find FELT (not rubber) pads to put under your monitor legs. felt shouldn't leave any kinda residue, but rubber can. Final resolution would be to get a desk monitor stand...but be warned...you may find yourself yelling at me again....th-cam.com/video/Az8CzDL-xO0/w-d-xo.html
Hm so the fans you’re seeing belong to the GPU. the table barely shook, so it’s not bc of the desk - it’s bc of the graphics card fans will turn on and off pretty frequently bc of the temp limits I have set.
Waiting on that steelcase karman chair review.... Need to know if I can replace steelcase gesture with it or to go for the embody. I found the adjustable arms are really nice on gesture but I set it in 1 spot and never change it so it's not a feature ill miss BUT the chair gets hot and the seat cushion is too firm for my liking. I've noticed I like mesh chairs so I'm considering the steelcase karman OR the herman miller embody (it's currently on sale for the gaming edition) so I hope the review comes out before the herman miller embody gaming edition sale expires on may 16
So I think "super solid" means different things to different people. Some people reported wobble, others don't, but there is no defined metric for what is and isn't wobbly (some people might be OK with a little wobble in their monitors, some people are softer typers, some are outright slammers like me, some lean on their desk hard, some don't, etc). I think the biggest issue that I have is that the performance you're getting out of your Fully Jarvis, you could get out of a 2-legged Flexispot desk, which is half the price. These companies are jacking their prices up making you think you're getting better performance, but you're not. That's why I think the Apex Pro is the best - you're actually getting better performance for the increase in price. Meanwhile, there are 2 leg standing desks out there that cost more than the Apex Pro, and again, I think people are thinking they're going to get something more stable for that price bump. At the end of the day, if you're happy with your desk, then screw what I have to say! Enjoy it!
You say stability is the most important thing, that's a hard disagree from me. I have basically two reasons for that, the first one being that desks with 2 legs are already stable enough. All these testing videos, yours included, show people pushing their desk, but that's just something that does not happen in day to day life. If it happens, it happens once, then the desk wobbles for a second, that's it. I have no idea in what household anybody would CONSTANTLY bump into their desk, that just doesnt make any sense. Only if you want to specifically advertise Deskhaus's 4 leg desk that is... And my reason two is that cable management imho is more important than "perfect" stability. Granted this is most imporant if you have a PC mounted under the desk, and might not apply to everybody to the same extent. But having a feature like the integrated power column on the Secretlab desk, plus it's giant full-length cable tray, is actually a game changer and allows for the desk setup to be both cleaner and safer (no possibility for pets or children to run into cables dangling from the back of the desk). So I'm a bit disappointed in this video, but I still wanted to add, I have seen multiple of your chair reviews and those have been really great and helped me in my search for the best chair for me, so thanks for that 🙂
Hey! I totally get your point. I should have made a bigger emphasis on my main point, which is that if you're under 5'8 to 5'10ish, you can go with literally ANY desk. It won't matter. The stability is the same across the board on ALL 2 leg desks. My frustration was that there are companies trying to sell you $700 - $1,000+ desks, and I think people think they're getting a higher quality desk, when in reality, it's all kinda the same or just gimmicks (touch screen on the desk top to raise the desk up and down, etc). I personally think cable management is gimmicky because SO many better solutions exist on Amazon (Secretlab's is pretty clever though, NGL). You are right in that people aren't bumping into their desk regularly, but look at something like the SL - bumping into it once could mean a major inconvenience (spilling coffee on crap, scratching the hell out of your wall) or even death for certain electronics if you're on the taller end. The stability also makes a difference as you weigh the desk down. You can see that the front and back shake is BAD, and again, while you won't run into your desk regularly, the shake on monitors when typing can be more substantial. I think cable management is fine, and I think Secretlab's innovation of an integrated power supply is cool, but
Recommend you send an email to desk haus! I think their customer service can def help! For reference, my desk is 72x31” and I got the standard apex pro.
I didn't mean to do that. I had a water bottle on me to use, but I accidentally left it in the car and it warped. I didn't have anything else on me and had to film to get the video out. Also, there are plenty of other things on the desks that you can determine the wobble from
Check out Desk Haus' channel. He does a lot of demonstrations and makes sure to balance them. I unfortunately don't have hard floors here (and it would be an issue when it came to echo in my audio!)
Did you get the tabletop from Desk Haus as well? I am on the market and I'm intrigued by this desk. But if pairing the apex pro with their hardwood top it looks like I'm at $2500
hey! I got mine from Desk Haus, but the beauty of it is that you can get whatever desk top you want and just screw it in from the bottom! I mentioned this in the video (very briefly though!) and IMHO is one of the benefits of getting sturdier legs. You can always upgrade to a fancy top later down the line, but you can't ever swap out your legs!!
FUN test for you: take a deep tabletop like 90cm. add the big screen and speakers at the rear for weight. Extend to max standing height. Then test SWAY. BUUUUT. Change the location of the legs. Some would say o the rear because thats the weight, but then your making a fulcrum and archemedes said you can move the earth. Some say the middle so a T, but, I have. a sneeeaaaaaaaky suspicion that legs at the front is best. If the table top is reinforced, can hold the static weight, and you touching and leaning which is dynamic weight, is at the short end, that mitigates your movement as you are at the fulcrum. the pivot point. Would this not be a fun non intuitive test?????? (No I am not crazy, my mother had me tested.)
@@Ahnestly the bad news is I’m in Canada ,and they only ship to 48 states . There is a shipping depot in the US a few hours from me in Montana , but I don’t have a passport :(
ABOUT THE WATER BOTTLE - I accidentally left the water bottle I used for this test in my car (in the hot sun) and it deformed. I didn't have another one and had to film. This was not an attempt to exaggerate wobble. I have plenty of other things on the desks so you can see everything else wobble.
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Any idea if the wood can be stained darker?
I like to imagine your house is just a warehouse of desks and chairs.
It was like that for the better part of 2 years. I finally managed to get to a point where I have a studio...full of desks and chairs. Every day I walk through the maze of chairs and desks and look at my monthly bill for my studio and wonder...why didn't I just review gaming mice!!?!?
I bought the Apex Pro from Desk Haus over a year ago (price has gone up since). I love the thing. It's a tank and there have been no issues. I am using a 72x30 dark rubberwood butcher block from Lowes. Best investment ever.
hey May i ask about the price when you got it
Thank you for this review. I’ve been wanting to build my own desk for quite awhile since working 100% remote and this video helped me so much! It definitely validated and answered many of the concerns I had with the various desk bases and the other options of buying a whole pre-made desk. I just bought the apex pro with your discount code- I appreciate the saving a few dollars and more than happy to support you in creating great videos like this one :)
woot woot!! I hope you love it and love the DIY attitude!!
Deskhaus is easily the future of standing desks. The double leg design is incredible not to mention the support is fantastic.
Yes, those double legs really make it sturdy. The other critical component is the horizontal brace that connects the legs. My Uplift Conference Desk is like that, only the legs are spaced further apart than the Deskhaus which makes it even more sturdy!
I just ordered the DeskHaus Apex Pro because of you. Thank you for making this video and enabling me to get a $50 discount (since I used your code). I can't wait to get the frame and put my desk together.
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Not used to people being kind? In any case, I hope your days are filled with kindness, friend.
@@Ahnestly I mean, I thought it was pretty clear that I was joking but if you felt the need to defend yourself by behaving perfunctory as a response now im suspicious 👀
@@decisive-dolphinIts always difficult to tell whether a comment is being hostile or joking. More so bc it was like 4 words!
I admit, I did assume your comment was hostile to the OP who was showing kindness. Because of that, my comment was asking “why do you feel the need to be hostile to someone who’s being kind?”, but also, I was genuinely hoping your days would be filled with kindness!
I prob misread your comment bc I’m dumb (I had to look up ‘perfunctory’ lol).
In any case, I saw you commented on my other vid and thank you for your support. I hope the stability test at the end of this video speaks for itself and let me know how you like it!
What a thorough review. Excellent job. Most reviews out there lack the comparative details and industry knowledge.
Thank you! Appreciate that!
I waited for a sale and got the 60"x30" from Vari for under $600 with tax. I use it around 45" when standing and it is very stable. No wobble unless I'm actively trying to shake the desk; even then I only get a little monitor shake. The Deskhaus 20-year leg warranty is pretty sick though.
Consider yourself lucky, on the website the 60x30 is going for $1,900 bucks!🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
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I would imagined the L-shaped desks are much, much more stable by the nature of their geometry. Would love to see your reviews on these. Btw, this video was an eye opener. Thank you for your top notch review and Ahnesty. :-)
I, myself, am looking at the Fezibo Triple Motor L-shaped 63 with the Ergonomic Monitor stand shelf that goes the full L. Yes, it's a budget model but still at the $500-$600 range. Would love to hear what you have to say about this.
I wish I could say definitively, but I'm not sure! I do imagine it would help though, but I'm always surprised by the things I find when actually testing!
Yep Deskhaus is super legit. I just bought a second apex base for my office. Couldnt be happier on the purchases.
I’m glad someone is finally bringing Deskhaus to the conversation. I’ve had their Apex Pro with a walnut butcher block island countertop for almost 2 years now and it’s blown every other desk I’ve had out of the water. So much so I’ve sold my Fully Jarvis and will be making mine into an L shaped version
How will you turn this desk L shaped?
Flexispot makes the E7Q "Odin" now that also has the quad motor quad leg design, and it's arguably even more robust than this design because the legs are pushed all the way out to the corners of the frame. AND it goes just as low as this desk. I'd love to see a comparison between that and the Deskhaus Apex Pro.
I've been in talks! Stay posted!
He didn’t really use products that are equally as close to the deskhaus. Like the uplift 4 leg commercial and evodesk FX package. I wish he did
@allen7615 the starting price of uplift 4 leg with laminate top (30x60) is $1,200. Desk Haus with a real rubber wood top (30x60) is $1052 with my code ($1,100 without code). The Evodesk is over 2x the price. Looks fancy, but quite pricey!
Other factors to consider:
Desk Haus is made in America and In terms of warranty and customer service, I’ve seen desk haus really active on both Standing Desk and Desk Haus forums. Uplift is not made in America, not sure what their customer service is like. I don’t know much about Evodesk unfortunately!
I think people who are looking at these desks are individuals like myself who work from home and game / stream. This isnt a desk for anyone who just wants a basic desk and seems to be the solid take i find going around. Most people complaining about expensive motorized desks are not paying more than $3-500 and my chair alone is almost $600 because i work from home.
Incredible. I was considering pulling the trigger on the Magnus, but now I'm sold on getting an Apex Pro and using is it to build the perfect setup for my needs. Kudos
Heyyyyyy!!! Nice!!! You will NOT regret it. Love this freaking tank of a desk!!! Don't forget to use my coupon code!!
Will the walnut top get water marks on it if a drink is left in it or is it a sealed wooden surface?
This is a good question and I'm not sure what the answer is. The finish is slightly sheen, but I don't ever feel comfortable leaving a glass of water bare on top of any wood surface. I always use a coaster!
How well does Deskhaus honor the warranty? Will it be around in 20 years? How big is their service department?
HE JUST SAID (IF YOU WATCHED THE VIDEO) THAT IT'S 4 PEOPLE
I'm surprised more people haven't done videos on Deskhaus products.
Wow, I saw a Steelcase Karman !!!! When is the video coming out?
I'm actually in shock about the Magnus Pro, I basically had my credit card in hand to buy it but didn't even think it would be so unstable. Stability in the desk is top priority for me as you mentioned, I have tens of thousands of dollars of equipment on my desk and use it every day for long periods of time.
Desk haus put out a video showing how unstable it was. I did not believe it until I tested it myself
Hi @ahnestly!! A wonderful review! I just wanted to ask, could you let us know what size is your table top and where did you buy it? I really like the size of it but when I clicked on the coupon of them offering it, it is empty :( any feedback is appreciated! Thank you!
Thanks for this info. I’ve been looking at getting the Samsung ARK monitor & have been hesitant due to the stability, weight capacity & desktop size options. However you just pointed me in the right direction to solve all my problems!!
The camera angles make those desks look MASSIVE! 🤣🤣
LOL naw im just short!
Bless you bless you bless you!!!! Yes I have a computer but it’s connected to very expensive, sensitive electronics. I am not a content creator but very similar needs to stand a lot mainly because of a handy cap that standing is the best for me. Everything I have seen , wouldn’t call them junk , but the wiggling is far too much especially for what they are asking. So yes they are junk for what they are asking for them . Not looking for low cost looking for a great product at a fair price. And the DESKHAUS looks like exactly what might fit my needs and pocket book. And coincidentally they are made only 30 miles North of me in Western Michigan. A win win. Thank you so much for making this great honest video . Greg
Nice!! You should email Chris and ask if you can visit his warehouse! When I went, he showed me all the standing desks from the various brands and we did shake comparisons. It was wild - even the $1,000+ desks from Steelcase, Herman Miller, etc - all wobbly!!
@@Ahnestly thank you and neighbor is going to take me.
@@Ahnestlytalked to Derek today and friend driving me to get there 30x60 Apex Pro Max with a butcher board top in two days. Thank you again for your review and sending me to the best of the best.
What about the Nolan from Fully that has 4 regular post legs? I'm asking because it's the prettiest desk BY FAR! It's THE only standing desk that looks like a normal desk and not like an office desk
i would be interested in a stability comparison to the new(?) flexispot e7q wich also has for legs.
You said that the most stable is not necessarily the most expensive in the beginning, but Apex Pro legs alone are almost $1k add to that another ~$1k for the top, that's ~$2k without any accessory.
You don’t have to buy a table top from desk haus. Thats the beauty of it. You can buy a $20 table top from ikea if you wanted and just install it (literally just screw it in from the bottom). The $1k table top is a real wood table top - you can purchase something like this at a later time. What you won’t be able to purchase is more stable legs.
Really great call on the 4 legs stability. Thank you!
6/24/2024 - Like your style and how you keep it real. Looking for a stand up desk for my 6' boyfriend who works from home and his 50 year-ol body needs a better way to spend 8 hours each day. He sits. I love the stability point - so true. Thank you for being you and providing these fun video reviews. (Tennessee)
more weight would shift the center of gravity UP and the higher it is the more you got to unstable equilibrium. This is school level physics. Why would anyone assume it would be stable equilibrium ? This is also why CARS try to keep the CG low to attain better equilibrium
someone buy this man a beer.
@@Ahnestly thanks for the gesture but I don't drink :)
1k dollars for a desk is not something that a middle class person can afford.
It’s almost like buying an expensive mattress. Quality sleep is critical. I spend 8 hours a day at a desk. A STABLE, standing / sitting is worth its weight in gold.
I just purchased this, as a game developer I spend a lot of time at my desk. 10-12 hours a day sometimes. It’s best to make sure my desk is comfortable and secure.
That's just the stand. If you want a desktop to work off of you have to pay extra. Cheapest option of the 3 is $245 with high pressure laminate. The other 2 are wood and go for $1,125 & $1,375.
Recommend you watch the whole video! You can buy ANY desktop for it, and not the ones on deskhaus. You can go to ikea and buy a $20 table top if you wanted. You just drill the table top in (there are holes in the base where you just screw the top into). Then if you ever wanna buy a nicer top or change the look, you can. Compare that to companies that have table tops that you NEED to buy from their company
The legs themselves cost just below 1k.
What would you recommend for table top options? And do you know what foot size your table has?
I believe mine is the 27.5". As for table tops, you can go from anything cheapo at Ikea to getting a custom table top done! Desk Haus lists the width to be 43-80" on the 27.5" footsize
Great review! Did I miss you going over measurements? I didn't see how one gets a custom top from them as opposed to the prefab blocks, but how difficult would it be to drill and install your own custom wooden top? 30" depth is too little, 36" is much better
Hey! I don't think they offer custom tops, but you could always reach out to their customer service and see if they do it. Installing your own desktop is SUPER easy. align the desk how you want it, then just screw in from the bottom. This is the main benefit - you don't need to buy a top from them, can go get your own cheapo one from Ikea or crazy uber expensive end game one elsewhere!
@@Ahnestly Wow ok awesome!! One final thing, do you know what thickness a butcher block should have for this purpose and why? 1.5" +? Is there any advantage to thicker blocks other than higher weight capacity? Seems like a block that size would weigh ~100lbs, while the deskhaus legs can hold 650
@@thunderstar254 Thicker is usually better if you're going to weigh it down. A thinner top will flex easier than a thicker one. 1.5" sounds great as a minimum!
@@Ahnestly That makes sense, got it! Thanks very much
I'm not about to power kick my desk. I'm not about to shake the desk as if I'm choking it to death.
Secret Lab Magnus Pro XL is perfect. The whole cable rats nest being tucked away out of sight with the built in power connector is a must.
I've never had any stability issue but then again I'm not trying to fight my desk 😂
Loll I hope I didn’t power kick or fight my desk! I barely pushed it forward! But again, stability issues begin after a certain height.
Excellent review! Thank you for your honesty.
I'm really glad you're doing a Deskhaus review. II went the Vertex legs diamond option given it's built like a tank.
The honesty here has sold me on Deskhaus. Thanks for the advice.
Glad I saw this before buying the Secret Lab desk. I'm 6'1" so that would've been a big mistake.
I bought the desk after your review, and this was the best decision I ever made!!! This product is SO amazing! I have been watching your video for over a year now, trying to find a chair. However, I just can't pull the trigger without trying the chair. Any suggestions as to where I can go to try those chairs? I am in Southern California
I am surprised what a low level of likes this video has, it's superb
Hey! I appreciate it! Haha worked really hard on it to get all the b roll just right!
anyone know what alternative there is for people living in europe?
put the table next to a wall so it doesn't wobble.
But it’s a standing desk. The whole idea is for it to go up and down. Putting it against a wall will cause it to bang up your wall or scratch the hell out of your paint!
I have been doing TONS of research on standing desks these past few days and settled on Deskhaus for their appearance of quality and care... but I cannot for the life of me find any comparisons between the Apex Pro (34 legs from this video) against the Apex (just two legs). There is a ~$400 price difference between two frames. Im 5'8" so the desks would probably need to be go up to ~43". Im not super stressed about some shake (I have an awful and shaky ikea normal desk and its never bothered me much). I decided to "risk" the two leg apex model and will update this comment on my findings and keep it ahnest.
nice vid brother!! I actually purchased the frame back in January and have not purchased a table top yet. I want one of theirs, but will need to pay for that later! But love these desks and their brand!! Such a solid brand!!!
Have you considered a slick glass desktop? I might do that. I would cut it so only the main section, including area with the monitors needs to rise up...maybe a nice 48" wide section. No need to stress the motors lifting a 60" or wider area everyday if it is not necessary IMO.
Thanks for the save. Glad i found this vid before buying.
'But it nice or buy it twice'- applicable here
Why does the table woble so much with more weight on top?
Physics: allow me to introduce myself.
THATS WHATS UP! When i get my first standing desk im getting the Apex pro. Thanks man
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😳 You got the Steelcase Karman, just sitting there, taunting me.
Hahahaha ;)
Ordered mine a few days ago because of this video! I'm hype!
Woot woot!!!
I recently bought an Uplift Adjustable Height Conference Desk - 8' x 3'-6" (96" x 42")with bamboo top. It's expandable to 9' x 3'-6" (108" x 42"). I have the expansion leaf but my room would be too cramped at the 9' length. I added heavy-duty casters so I can move the desk around. The desk is absolutely rock solid and sturdy. It has 4 heavy metal legs and horizontal support bars connecting two legs on each side. The desk is so heavy the instructions recommended that 4 people flip it over. I flipped in on my own but it was quite challenging. Shipping was amazing with everything properly padded and protected.
The electrical operation is super smooth and I added a Bluetooth dongle so it can be controlled by an Android or iPhone. It all just works. If my room was larger I would have gotten the 9' x 5' (108" x 60") ping pong version. But my desk is big enough for back-to-back 48" OLED screens so I can sit on either side of the desk. The desk is freestanding. I want to do a review when everything is all set up because it is really something to see.
Happy for you! The biggest difference here between uplift and deskhaus is really the price, warranty, and where it’s made. After all, if it has 4 legs, well, they’re all gonna be similar! Hope you enjoy your setup!
Forgot to add. Also bought 4 hooks, these still have to be mounted, two on each side.
6 standing desks.. get 4 more and you have stairs for really wide giant dwarfs
or a 1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1 soccer match
I appreciate the review, but it's unfortunate that Deskhaus has their reviews managed by such an unprofessional individual. The review on the Magnus Pro XL was particularly disappointing; their attitude was so poor that I felt embarrassed for them. While their desks appear to be nice, I can't support a company that responds to criticism with insults and disparaging remarks, especially when it concerns products significantly cheaper than their top-of-the-line offerings. It’s quite off-putting.
@Ahnestly great video. I'm looking to DIY a standing desk my self. I was just so captivated the entire time by your monitor though. What is? Brand, model... Can you share a link for more details?
Using a 4K OLED TV as a Monitor? Watch this!
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Here you are! If you pick up things, please consider using my links to purchase! Helps the channel a lot! Excited for you and your DIY desk!!
If I'll be honest, if we're talking about features and functionality. I like the Secretlabs, stability is nice and everything. But being able to crouch on the floor, or stand as tall as you want is extras that don't need so much consideration. If I can get integrated controls for the desktop, gladly, if I can get a great cable management ecosystem, even better. If I can get a PSU that's jammed into the leg of the table, that's a game changer. I want things like this with Deskhaus, but simply put, their desks look like they need more to them, which is why I'm not willing to spend as much for one. When I can spend as much as I did, getting a secretlabs
I am the same way. I look at the review for SecretLabs Magnus pro, and the stability is a con for me. All their pros outweighs that one con for me though. Magnetic headphone holder, Pc mount, cable management, and all the other attachments they offer is amazing to have.
Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, comparing a 4 leg desk to a bunch of 2 leg desks. For the record, Uplift sells a 4 leg desk.
It is absolute overkill to have 4 actuators for a single desk. If company's are having to do this, then the end users aren't using them properly.
@@edwardjames1768 I didn't say that it was necessary to have 4 motors, but if you want a stable sit-stand desk, I would recommend having 4 legs.
@bonanzabrandon6877 the point I'm making buddie is that they're all made and designed for office peripherals etc... they are not meant to be "leaned on" or sat on by people...
In all my career I have never ever been to a site where a sit/stand has fallen over due to instability. People rocking the desks are simply being unrealistic in expectations.
It comes down to actuator quality at the end of the day.
Thanks mate. This was exactly what I was looking for
You’re very welcome!
You say the desk only goes does down to 24.5". I just checked mine and the paddle displayed it was 23" and when I measured it, it was 23" (with my 1" top). It's a great desk.
Great video. I just wish there was a better space for art students and students in general because we usually never have the budget for the better desks 😭🙏🏾
Beautiful Setup - I'm currently in the process of building a house and it'll be done in 4 months. I'll have a dedicated office and I want my desk to be in the middle of the room. Like your setup, looks nice and clean, cables look OK, hoping to get them really well managed, I want to switch to a standing desk so I can have an under-desk treadmill and some additional flexibility as well. Do you have a setup for your PC/cables/etc? I just stumbled on your channel and looking to emulate what you got going on. Thanks! Looks like you have an external GPU setup too. :)
This is my most recent desk setup video - th-cam.com/video/1rN6gCJtWRY/w-d-xo.html
@@Ahnestly Awesome, thanks! How are you doing your cable management, and are you using the Razer Core + a laptop?
Thank you for this video, it made me realise my standing desk for £140 is epic value and better quality than the Magnus
Yes. And very sad LTT is promoting their desk in their recent series :-0
Like the only thing the Magnus has going for it is, it has a higher weight capacity which I don’t think most people think hmm can my desk support three people
Great video dude :)
I appreciate the video!
However, almost a grand for just the base of a motorized desk is a bit absurd.
I thought paying a grand from the secret labs pro desk was absurd but deskhaus definitely takes the cake lol.
Well it depends on how much use you'll get out of it. Expensive yes, absurd, no.
Someone working from home and regularly adjusting the height would benefit more than someone who uses it for a few hours after work.
Same deal with high end chairs. I have a second hand aeron but bought a leap v2 brand new because I know i'm going to get a lot of use out of them. I didn't want to spend time and money exploring cheaper options.
Something not discussed or mentioned were the motors. Some people value them a lot more and i've heard linak brand motors are the ones to aim for. The market is flooded with cheap chinese motors that overheat, are noisy or slow. I would want to know more about the motors before dropping that kind of cash.
Ahnestly absurdly expensive.
they dont ship outside of the US so if you dont live there then forget about it
I'm sure this is a beautiful desk but I have a Vivo desk that has served me well. It doesn't wobble unless I put weight behind it, it goes low, rises to a comfortable height, has presets, and you can buy accessories for it including wheels but note that wheels will rise the top by a few inches. It's less expensive but I am satisfied. I guess one should check out a variety.
Definitely. One thing that doesn't get discussed a lot in these reviews is exactly how you are using the desk. In my case I work in information technology and I have a laptop with a dock and a monitor. One monitor. It's all very light and all I want is something that is functional and good quality. I'm not looking for something that can lift 140 lb of Hardware up and down LOL
The major point of this video was to just showcase that paying a premium for “well known” desk brands (aka those that spend lots of $ on ads) does not get you a better desk when it comes to stability for people above 5’8. You can see in the tests with the other desks don’t have much weight on them, and they still wobble that hard!!
Apex Pro is the best home standing desk for the money. I had mine for over a year now and have no regrets!
What electronics/motors and gears does it use?
What do you think of the Apex Pro Max with the cross bracing? Overkill??? I'd just go for the Max but it adds a lot of weight to an already heavy base....
Personally, I’d say overkill, but that depends on your needs. The apex pro is a tank already. Keep in mind that there is no discount code for the pro max! And yes, legs are pretty heavy hahaha
@@Ahnestly thanks for your response and your great video!
A 20-year warranty is nice idea, but keep in that when a company goes out of business, its warranties and services often die unless other agreements have been made. Deskhaus was founded in 2020. I do hope they will be around in 20 years to honour their warranty!
Also who cares if it wobbles wrf are these people doing on their desks
Typing? Lol
….and dirty things 😈😈😈
@@Ahnestlywell now I’m probably gonna get one 😂
@@michaellawrence1601 …to do dirty things? Pictures or it didn’t happen….LOL
man you hit the spot, i agree with your into i hate a wobbling desk. In your opinion would you think the DeskHaus Apex Pro would be better than FEXISPOT E7Q in terms of stablity?
Thank you for one of the best vids I've ever seen on standing desks. My desk wobbles, and I always assumed it's because my 70-year-old weak hands, with the help of my daughter, just didn't screw things together tight enough during assembly. I had no idea it was a common thing among all two-legged desks!
On another note, I'm curious as to what monitor you are using as well as the stand (which appears to be two pieces, but hard to tell). I have a 34" and 27" monitor, and I've been wanting to go to something larger (ideally 48"), but every monitor I've looked at gets mixed reviews. So I'm curious if you're happy with yours, and if so, what it is exactly.
Thanks again for a great vid!
Karen 😊
First of all, SO COOL that you're way outside my usual demographic and looking into this stuff.
I don't have a review on the screen, but I do talk about some highlights, as well as various hacks for using this as a monitor in this video!
th-cam.com/video/BLCCZQxQ3mM/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps! Please reach out if you have any additional questions!!
@@Ahnestly - Wow, Dan. Thanks so much for the oh-so-speedy response! I'm old, not dead LOL. I still work full time (from home), doing a mix of legal transcription, copy editing, and a bit of geeky stuff. I love it, and I plan to work right up until they come to wheel me to the crematory LOL! I spend most of my discretionary $$$ on new toys for my office, so I always have my radar set high for new places to push the "Add to Cart" button LOL.
I follow quite a few tech gurus and others who cover office-centric topics such as furniture, lighting, etc. I haven't come across you before, but I'm happy that I did stumble across you on my sidebar yesterday. I am now a subscriber, and I look forward to checking out your other vids. I suspect most of them, including you, could qualify to be my grandkids. That's okay. I love watching all of you! It keeps me young - as well as entertained and informed, as well as broke LOL. -Karen 😉
P.S. What a clever and cool channel name. I love it when people are able to incorporate their own names into creative and meaningful monikers to use for business or pleasure. Well done!
Do you have any insight into regular (not standing) desks with a wooden top? With the standing desk hype it's hard to find that more simple option with a nice wood finished top.
Looking for the same.
When looking for a new office or gaming setup item I always watch your videos. While these desks. I'm looking for a long table at least 72 in or 80" x 30 wide is there a brand that you would recommend?
Hey! Thanks for the super kind words!!
Depends on what you're looking for. If a budget option, I believe Ikea has a couple options. Home Depot/Lowes may have some options too for particleboard I think. If you want solid wood, Desk Haus has their solid wood top (which you see in my video), which isn't cheap, but usually cheaper than boutique custom table top shops (since it's produced in mass). Highest tier option is to get it made at a boutique/wood shop!
I've been looking at the uplift v2, v2 commercial and the flexispot e7 pro.
And of course the secret lab. Oh so out of the three secret lab flexi spot or uplift I'm at a loss in which one would be more sturdy in 72 or 80"?
@@jessecostello1406 I'm confused haha. Desk Haus Apex Pro + buying a 72x30 or 80x30 tabletop from another place is my go-to if you want most sturdy + solid customer service. Secretlab was shockingly unstable. Flexispot customer service is reported to be pretty awful. Uplift costs more than Desk Haus, but not as stable.
No thank you for you're always such wonderful timely replies. So if it comes down actually purchasing one thats put together already I think I will be staying with the uplift.
Nice video Dan. I purchased two fully jarvis bamboo desks and I regret it. I should have been patient and purchased the deskhaus. My fully desks aren't even stable at normal sitting height. I tend to keep my wrists/elbows on the desk when I type. When I do that, it pushes down on the desk way too much causing my monitors to wobble. In my opinion, that should not happen. My autonomous doesn't even do that. Either way, they are fine for now and at least they look nice.
Nothing a quick trip to Home Depot can't fix- easily. Do you have a wall nearby? I would arrange something- maybe a sliding rail track or two. Should be a fun weekend project. I am looking now. Any recommendations? I was thinking this or an autonomous frame. I will buy a glass top.
Bro, what do you do for a living? Because I break every project I ever take on for a living. I used to think I was cursed, but after you’ve broken as many things as I have, I’m pretty sure it’s a skill.
Why not reinforce it with $20 worth of supports from Home Depot...if you have it against at least one wall. That would stiffen it right up. I plan to do this.
@@Ahnestlybro, what are you doing with your desk that requires the level of stability you keep hammering on in your review? Because every time I use even the cheapest of standing desks as a fellow 5'6" King I do *not* run into any stability issues that you're claiming here in your review. As with @zealousbeing0178 and @zerofrost478 I'm planning on going secret labs for the vast number of pros it brings to the table: organization + cable management, size, integrated power, aesthetic, etc.
I won't fight you on the warranty though, 20 years is nuts. Assuming they're still around in 20 years - that's a pretty beefy bet with a team of 4 but I'm here for it!
@@MOAB-UT while I too am a DIjunkY if you're spending serious cash on a product it should suit your needs out of the box. Not everything needs to be a project. I'm up to my ears in projects at home. I still give you a thumbs up for the argument given that I don't think stability *is* an issue personally. I just don't personally think if I buy something it's warranted to become a DIY. I want a solution, not a project if I'm spending that kind of money. Especially for something as commonly used as a desk.
Translation, buy the Apex Pro lol. Too bad they don't sell a top with the base. Hard pass.
You can buy any top you want! Desk Haus sells tops, but you could just go to an ikea or buy a table top off of amazon or Home Depot / Lowe’s for cheap., if you wanted something nicer, could do that as well
now or later. Installing is super easy - just place it on top evenly, and get some screws and drill it in.
@@Ahnestly I bought a fully loaded Uplift V2 Commercial instead.
@@BlakeC341 cool cool! Hope you love it!
I don’t understand why companies don’t make double legs for each side? It’s not that hard to implement and it doesn’t cost that much extra.
What do you think about IDÅSEN Desk sit/stand, black/dark gray, 63x311/2" - IKEA?
Is this competitive to Apex?
I was thinking to buy IDASEN but now I seen your video it made me make sure which one is the best in term of sturdiness
Can you review the stability of the Flexispot E7 Pro and E7 Plus?
Interesting Concept but at the moment they don't ship to Canada so can't buy it (not interested in spending a bunch of extra money having it imported with a 3rd party middle man.)
Thanks for the video. What is the min-max range for wood top (width) for this particular Deskhaus ?
It can get insanely wide...but that might be a question you want to ask directly to Desk Haus!
I built my own using the autonomous pro legs on a completely custom desktop made of a rare maple.
I have 3, 27" monitors attached to it AND 2 full size PCs on it. My gaming machine AND a server, both in full/mid size towers (Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL and an older NZXT) I also have a work laptop, mouse, keyboard and a VR headset on it.
I'm 6ft tall, I have to raise it pretty high when I'm standing for work. I don't really experience the kind of wobble you are showing, not anywhere close.
It's sitting on a flat, hard floor. So maybe you're exaggerating the wobble or the top of my desk is better at dealing with the movement, but I've been using it now for a couple years and it's been rock solid, one of the best decisions I've made since going WFH.
Respectfully, you are doing the physics wrong. Having more weight on the table will reduce the amount of force it takes to wobble it a given distance. It will simply require more force than when it's empty. However, once you do get it wobbling, then it will stay in motion longer (Newtons 3rd law)
I have probably 200lbs on/clamped to my desk (320lb max) and it doesn't wobble because I won't exert enough pressure to make it move. Sure, the monitors move but they're on arms and they'd wobble on the deskhaus because that's how frequency and vibrations work. Things extended out on an arm will work now more. But the desk itself, it takes A LOT to move, therefore it is stable UNTIL it is pushed hard enough. Which, I have several kids and I tend to lean on it, still haven't had that issue.
But having 2 legs per side will do what you show. From years of experience, you're exaggerating the results and you got the math/physics wrong about weight.
I noted that all the desks in the video are on carpeted floor, which I think many people have as their setup. This is why I did NOT include my standing desks at home in the various comparison shots - it would not be apples to apples.
However, In terms of front to back wobble, my autonomous ergo pro still wobbles quite a bit at the higher heights.
When you’re working, you may not experience a lot of wobble, but try taking your hand and pushing the front edge of your table top hard a few times. That’ll get the desk going. It may translate to slight shakes when working, but if leaning or you bump or something, means a bigger wobble.
I went to Desk Haus’ warehouse, checked all the bolts/screws, and shook them myself and saw how much even high end standing desks from Herman miller, steelcase, autonomous, uplift, etc all wobble
Ikea idasen desk for around 740 eur two years ago is very stable desk as the legs construction is different and solid
Hey what table top are you using in this video? It looks great
Did you had a look at the new flexispot E7plus .
Hi @Ahnestly thank you for this review it is super helpful. I am in the market for a 4 legged standing desk and I'm interested to know your thoughts on other 4 legged standing desk as well, specifically the Flexispot Odin E7Q and the Uplift V2 four legged standing desk. Any thoughts on these and how they might compare to the Deskhaus Apex Pro?
Hey! I haven't had personal experience with those desks. That is something I want to do in the future / in my new space!
Ok it'd be great to get your thoughts on those!
So.... I hate you officially... First, the HM embody chair... which I got yesterday btw and it is very comfortable and a game changer not gonna lie. BUT NOW YOU GOT ME BUYING THIS! hahaha just got the grand rapids desk, my question is (and probably should have researched before buying) since it is hard wood and beautiful, how do you protect it from the monitors? and Im thinking of eventually mounting 2 super wide screens on top of each other.
ahahahahahaha YESSS. One of us...one of us...
Congrats on those awesome pick ups!! As for protecting wood from monitors, you've got a couple options. The first is to go with a desk mount monitor arm, and they should usually come with some kinda rubber grippy pads that should help grip to your desk without damaging it. Keep in mind that rubber MAY leave some kinda residue there after a longggg period of time. If you want to just go with the original monitor legs, then similar resolution - try to find FELT (not rubber) pads to put under your monitor legs. felt shouldn't leave any kinda residue, but rubber can.
Final resolution would be to get a desk monitor stand...but be warned...you may find yourself yelling at me again....th-cam.com/video/Az8CzDL-xO0/w-d-xo.html
I see that Eames in the background, will you ever be doing an Ahnest review of what you think?
Helpful, thanks. Couldn't help but noticing how the fans in your PC stopped when you wiggled the table 10:02.
Hm so the fans you’re seeing belong to the GPU. the table barely shook, so it’s not bc of the desk - it’s bc of the graphics card fans will turn on and off pretty frequently bc of the temp limits I have set.
@@Ahnestly Roger that. Thanks!
Waiting on that steelcase karman chair review.... Need to know if I can replace steelcase gesture with it or to go for the embody. I found the adjustable arms are really nice on gesture but I set it in 1 spot and never change it so it's not a feature ill miss BUT the chair gets hot and the seat cushion is too firm for my liking. I've noticed I like mesh chairs so I'm considering the steelcase karman OR the herman miller embody (it's currently on sale for the gaming edition) so I hope the review comes out before the herman miller embody gaming edition sale expires on may 16
I don't know..... I am 6'4" and the Fully Javis is super solid with a massive 2m oak butcher block top.
So I think "super solid" means different things to different people. Some people reported wobble, others don't, but there is no defined metric for what is and isn't wobbly (some people might be OK with a little wobble in their monitors, some people are softer typers, some are outright slammers like me, some lean on their desk hard, some don't, etc).
I think the biggest issue that I have is that the performance you're getting out of your Fully Jarvis, you could get out of a 2-legged Flexispot desk, which is half the price. These companies are jacking their prices up making you think you're getting better performance, but you're not. That's why I think the Apex Pro is the best - you're actually getting better performance for the increase in price. Meanwhile, there are 2 leg standing desks out there that cost more than the Apex Pro, and again, I think people are thinking they're going to get something more stable for that price bump.
At the end of the day, if you're happy with your desk, then screw what I have to say! Enjoy it!
You say stability is the most important thing, that's a hard disagree from me. I have basically two reasons for that, the first one being that desks with 2 legs are already stable enough. All these testing videos, yours included, show people pushing their desk, but that's just something that does not happen in day to day life. If it happens, it happens once, then the desk wobbles for a second, that's it. I have no idea in what household anybody would CONSTANTLY bump into their desk, that just doesnt make any sense. Only if you want to specifically advertise Deskhaus's 4 leg desk that is...
And my reason two is that cable management imho is more important than "perfect" stability. Granted this is most imporant if you have a PC mounted under the desk, and might not apply to everybody to the same extent. But having a feature like the integrated power column on the Secretlab desk, plus it's giant full-length cable tray, is actually a game changer and allows for the desk setup to be both cleaner and safer (no possibility for pets or children to run into cables dangling from the back of the desk).
So I'm a bit disappointed in this video, but I still wanted to add, I have seen multiple of your chair reviews and those have been really great and helped me in my search for the best chair for me, so thanks for that 🙂
Hey! I totally get your point. I should have made a bigger emphasis on my main point, which is that if you're under 5'8 to 5'10ish, you can go with literally ANY desk. It won't matter. The stability is the same across the board on ALL 2 leg desks. My frustration was that there are companies trying to sell you $700 - $1,000+ desks, and I think people think they're getting a higher quality desk, when in reality, it's all kinda the same or just gimmicks (touch screen on the desk top to raise the desk up and down, etc). I personally think cable management is gimmicky because SO many better solutions exist on Amazon (Secretlab's is pretty clever though, NGL).
You are right in that people aren't bumping into their desk regularly, but look at something like the SL - bumping into it once could mean a major inconvenience (spilling coffee on crap, scratching the hell out of your wall) or even death for certain electronics if you're on the taller end. The stability also makes a difference as you weigh the desk down. You can see that the front and back shake is BAD, and again, while you won't run into your desk regularly, the shake on monitors when typing can be more substantial.
I think cable management is fine, and I think Secretlab's innovation of an integrated power supply is cool, but
i cant wait for my magnus pro to arrive in 2 days 🙌🙌 super excited
Hey as long as you’re happy with your purchase! I’m just here to inform y’all with as much info as possible!
Side note… lmao wtf at the size of the guy vs the desk and the monitor. I can’t get over the fact it looks like it’s a comically oversized desk.
excellent video, I just liked and subscribed, do you have any videos that helps people figure out what size desk and foot to get?
Recommend you send an email to desk haus! I think their customer service can def help! For reference, my desk is 72x31” and I got the standard apex pro.
Appreciate the effort but was it really necessary to have a water bottle with a convex bottom to exaggerate the wobble!
I didn't mean to do that. I had a water bottle on me to use, but I accidentally left it in the car and it warped. I didn't have anything else on me and had to film to get the video out. Also, there are plenty of other things on the desks that you can determine the wobble from
Awesome review! How do the desks compare on solid floors.. aka no carpet? Same results?
Check out Desk Haus' channel. He does a lot of demonstrations and makes sure to balance them. I unfortunately don't have hard floors here (and it would be an issue when it came to echo in my audio!)
Did you get the tabletop from Desk Haus as well? I am on the market and I'm intrigued by this desk. But if pairing the apex pro with their hardwood top it looks like I'm at $2500
hey! I got mine from Desk Haus, but the beauty of it is that you can get whatever desk top you want and just screw it in from the bottom! I mentioned this in the video (very briefly though!) and IMHO is one of the benefits of getting sturdier legs. You can always upgrade to a fancy top later down the line, but you can't ever swap out your legs!!
Comparison with NewHeights S Series and their not just 20 year but lifetime warranty?
FUN test for you: take a deep tabletop like 90cm. add the big screen and speakers at the rear for weight. Extend to max standing height. Then test SWAY. BUUUUT. Change the location of the legs. Some would say o the rear because thats the weight, but then your making a fulcrum and archemedes said you can move the earth. Some say the middle so a T, but, I have. a sneeeaaaaaaaky suspicion that legs at the front is best. If the table top is reinforced, can hold the static weight, and you touching and leaning which is dynamic weight, is at the short end, that mitigates your movement as you are at the fulcrum. the pivot point. Would this not be a fun non intuitive test?????? (No I am not crazy, my mother had me tested.)
Liked and subscribed, hope your channel does well . I had no idea there was a standing desks with four legs , interesting. Thanks for posting this
Thanks for the kind words! Yeah they kinda fly under the radar, and I don't know why!
@@Ahnestly the bad news is I’m in Canada ,and they only ship to 48 states . There is a shipping depot in the US a few hours from me in Montana , but I don’t have a passport :(
Curious Question: Have you tested desks from iMovr at all? Would love to see some of the other contenders not using Jiecang linear actuators
I won't be able to afford any of these desks. I would love to get an adjustable one but budget sucks.
Is spending 2k on a standup desk really worth it? :D
Can we expect Flexispot odin quad leg desk review?
Do they ship internationally, like India.