From what I understand, Eric and Shane hadn’t seen any Who - classic or New - before watching it on Blind Wave, Calvin had seen some Classic Who but no New Who, and Aaron had seen New Who some time before BW did their reactions, but no Classic Who, although I do think Aaron was aware of how big a deal Davros was in Classic Who! :-)
grippingrope99 Yeah i remember, i was searching everywhere to find out who the New Doctor was, until people told me about the Christmas Special filming shots. And worst of all i was busy the weekend this episode aired so i had to wait a bit longer
One of my favorite scenes of this episode was towards the end where the Daleks gained entrance into Torchwood 3 was when Ianto and Gwen Cooper opened fire and the look on Gwen's face as she literally roared in defiance, wow!
@@shauntempley9757 When Tom Baker was deliberating if he could commit genocide and destroy the Daleks and he doubted it but Sarah Jane said to him how could you doubt it after all the death the Daleks had caused but Baker did which is why he is the doctor. One of the greatest scenes in Who history.
@@carolinehirst4921 Sarah Jane was the only other character besides the Doctor that knows how devious and savagely brutal Davros is. She knew that having the Daleks on Earth in vast numbers was a nightmare situation on their own. Adding in Davros on top of the danger, is far worse, because there is no low Davros will not sink to to get his way.
Calvin's face when Davros's voice was first heard was amazing, damn. He was so excited. I'm so glad Aaron managed to set it up so that he didn't miss any of these episodes, that really would suck.
Aaron's done a pretty good job of keeping things spoiler free and coordinating things to line up at the proper time to give everything context. And his poker face when Calvin said about regenerating back into Tennant was great too.
This is the highest point of the show. This series has the highest ratings and was the peak of the show's popularity. I remember when I was 6, this episode aired and everyone in school was talking about it; even the teachers.
Definitely. It peaked here. That week was insane. Everyone was talking about this cliffhanger and who could be this new doctor. We were all in shock at how they could bring in a new doctor without any leaks or any reveal beforehand. I don't think they could do this now with all the fake outs and other doctors they've done now
@@chriszone50 Id say this is much better written than Day of the Doctor. It just feels more polished and better executed. Day of the Doctor leaves a lot to be desired and doesn’t really live up to the hype it gets in my opinion. This on the other hand does deserve it. It’s literally an infinity war in 2008 on a TV shows budget and it’s done so well.
This was Infinity War, before infinity war. Seriously, consider the villains plan and the fact that this built up from a shared universe. I mean, this came out around Iron Man.
A A Unfortunately that Dalek kinda fucked up their plan. If he hadn’t shot the Doctor, the DoctorDonna would never have been created and Davros would have won.
@@sophiefilo16 yeah... the Cybermen (indirectly due to Mondas energy drain), execution by the Time Lords, the Great One's radiation cave, the Master (indirectly due to falling off a tower), the Rani (indirectly due to time ramming the TARDIS), shot by a gang of Triads, shot by a Dalek and shot by a Cyberman. As time goes on, the more he's killed by projectiles.
Harriet Jones didn't invent the subwave network, it was payed for and developed by the Mr Copper foundation. Mr Copper was the tour guide who the doctor lets live on earth with millions of pounds on his credit card at the end of the Titanic Christmas episode (also, the first ep to feature Donnas grandpa as a newspaper seller)
Apparently he was going to appear on screen with her but supposedly the actor was being unreasonable in his request for pay - I don't know how true that actually is though, it might just be something someone made up at the time and has then been repeated over the years.
EASTER EGG: Harriet mentioned the subwave network was developed by the Mr Copper Foundation, Mr Copper is the guy from the Voyage of the damned Christmas special who the doctor let live on earth and gave him a load of money. A nice little nod back to a seemingly minor character 😊
Slippin_Jim nah, the mass murder of the universe makes sense here. The daleks always wanted utter extinction, they hate everything. What doesn't make sense is why they wouldn't have always planned to do this. They ignored the nuke when it's always been the perfect weapon for the job.
Man, it's so much fun seeing how invested Eric and Shane have become with some of these recent episodes. Plus Calvin being in new territory now too, I had wished they could've figured out some way to see Genesis of the Daleks before this, but Calvin's reaction to Davros more than made up for it. And whoever's idea it was to do this finale back-to back, seriously, thank you.
Harriet Jones is honestly one of my favorite side characters. I love morally gray but ultimately dedicated leaders, and God damn, that woman gave everything she had for the sake of her country. I still think the Doctor may have been a little extreme when he toppled her Government just because she shot down those retreating aliens.
That's one thing I like about the Doctor in this era; he was flawed. He wasn't a superhero. He made mistakes. His arrogance had consequences. In this case, his getting rid of Harriet Jones left the door open for the Master to step in.
I like how our perception if her changes even though she remains the same person. First we don't care much about her then we love her then we despise her then we love her again and even more during her final moments. That's some good character development...
Gojirawars 03 She came to mind when I first read Wolf's comment, but I couldn't remember her name. Say what you will about the RTD era, but you have to admit he was phenomenal at making you feel sad to lose characters you not long before cared little for or even hated...
IT’S HERE!!!!!!!!! My favourite two-parter! The music in this episode is INCREDIBLE, and this story was MASSIVE in the UK when it aired 10 years ago!! Edit: Great reaction, guys!! Can’t wait for Journey’s End tomorrow, thank you for not having us all wait a whole week, I’m sure after that cliffhanger you didn’t want to, either!
Yep - I took it to mean that Patrons will get it 24hrs after this release, so tomorrow, and everyone else will get it 24hrs after their release, so next Thursday!
I remember back when this episode first aired, for the whole week till the next aired everyone was speculating who the next doctor was going to be. It was all over the news, the whole country was in a state of panic! Definitely one of the best cliffhangers in the show's history!
erosion271 I'll admit that after seeing The Thing, it's clear WoM is almost a direct rip off. However, those last 15 minutes are still a masterpiece. I'm far from being an emotional person, and I never cared much about anyone on that base, but the Doctor hearing them die as he walks away is a moment so full of dread, disbelief, sorrow, regret, hopelessness, and so much more. On top of that, this episode holds the only moment in Doctor Who history in which I've ever been afraid: at the end, when the "Time Lord Victorious" appears. This moment is far "darker" than the entirety of Capaldi's era. We realize just how far the Doctor could go and see he no longer cares about the consequences of time. Truly terrifying. This episode, better than any other, shows us why the Doctor needs someone by his side. Not just because he's lonely, but also because, as Donna says, he needs someone to stop him. This episode is powerful due to what it reveals about the Doctor and _how_ it is revealed. Great writing, great directing, great acting, great editing, and superb ending. Without a doubt, one of my favorites...
I fucking love the sheer terror in Sarah Jane and Jack. They both know what the Daleks are capable of. They both know that they'd wipe out the planet. And they both knew that, as of the time it happened, they stood no chance
Hey let's all just agree that every era of this show had excellent highs but drawbacks as well and leave it at that. The DW fandom is so polarized by "Moffat is shit, RTD is shit" and it's like... both showrunners had awesome strengths and weaknesses too, so pls let's not focus so much negative energy on "X's companions suck, X plot is terrible," etc. Not saying opinions aren't entitled! Just that this fandom has been recycling the same negative energy for years now and it's kind of like, get over it and move on or harbor those negative feelings without bringing the energy down for other people.
Who fans are almost worse than star wars fans sometimes. Ive never hated a moment of this show, love it so much. Dont understand the want to just actively hate on a part of it.
@@the25thprime well, opinions are still opinions. I personally really dislike the new, chibnall seasons, but not because I'm trying to jump on the bandwagon, because I personally think the new seasons have terrible writing, and I personally hate the timeless child twist. You can like the new era of the show, as you can have your own opinion. I wouldn't say everyone who hates the new seasons is just apart of mob mentality.
Honestly I just miss when Doctor Who had other significant characters beside the Doctor and his current companion that made ANY kind of crossover or cameo or callback possible. People like to shit on Russel T. Davies for having kind of "kiddy" episodes, but one thing I always appreciated about his run was how well-grounded the show was in long-running characters. Each companion had a distinct and developed family who actually mattered and played a part in the story. They had friends, jobs, homes which made it possible for us to witness the "civilian view" whenever someone was attacking Earth, and they had long-term impacts beyond their individual departure from the show. And on top of that, a lot of the other non-companion characters were also very fleshed out and well-defined. We just don't get memorable characters like Harriet Jones or Wilfred Mott any more, every side character just shows up for their respective episode and then is never seen again.
Wolf6120, couldn't agree more. RTD made Earth feel like the actual Earth with real people on it who had real lives. He established locations there like the companion's home (like you mentioned) where many scenes took place - which made the companion more relatable to the audience. I like what you said about the ''civilian view'' as well - the human race was used many times by RTD almost as a character with footage of news broadcasts from around the world. None of the above could be seen in Moffat's run and I think it's a contributing factor to the show's decline in quality.
Adam I agree with your rant. One thing I've always said was missing in Stevens run was companion families. The stakes are much higher when companions have people at home who they care for and it makes their departure more emotional.
Seeing how excited they got by this episode made me really miss the RTD era. I still adore it to this day. Tennant is MY Doctor, Donna is MY companion, and RTD era is MY Doctor Who. I miss the excitement I had for the show back then. It was my EVERYTHING. Hopefully I'll get some of that excitement back soon 😉 I'm so happy we'll get the next ep tomorrow (THANK YOU!!) but also kind of dreading it 😢 I've seen 4x13 a million times (and cried. Every. Damn. Time.) but I'm still not emotionally ready! I think this is my favourite DW reaction of theirs so far!
Sarah jane was terrified of the Daleks because this is the last time she saw the 4th Doctor before he went to fight them and never cameback ( she mentioned it when she recognized the 10th Doctor in the school episode, season 2 )
The Doctor wasn't summoned to Galifrey because of the Time War back in Tom Baker's era, he was summoned due to the events that take place in The Deadly Assassin. The Doctor didn't start fighting in the Time War before his 9th incarnation, the War Doctor/Warrior. But because Sarah was human she couldn't go back to Gallifrey with him or else the Time Lords would wipe her memory.
By far one of your greatest reaction videos. I love how into it all of you are! I had to keep clicking back so I could watch your individual reactions with out missing anything, slightly vexing but well worth it just to see your expressions!
You guys should watch the 4th Doctor episode Genesis of the Daleks. It introduces Davros and is generally considered the first salvo in the Time War. It’s an all time classic episode.
isaacc7 Pretty much every Davros episode got added into the Time War, didn't it? Time Lords try to end Daleks Daleks resurrect Davros Daleks try to invade Gallifrey Davros grows new Daleks Skaro is destroyed.
Greppellio Well, from our perspective it was the first volley. And that is how an actual time war should be fought. Using causality as a weapon, re-writing history in an effort to erase enemies. Big Finish tied into it as well in their Gallifrey series.
Man. I'm already scared that they won't like Matt Smith and the coming seasons. I know it's definitely different than the first 4 seasons but I still really liked him as the Doctor and liked all of his seasons too. They seem to be really into Tennant though (with good reason) and a lot of people here seem to hate the Matt Smith era here...
James Hughes Yeah me too. I really like Capaldi as an actor and I think he seems perfect as the doctor and I liked his performance... I just didn't really enjoy the stories that much.
I'd really like to give Aaron props for keeping so many things secret from these guys. It can't be easy to do with this group, and he's doing it beautifully.
A reference that often gets overlooked is the creator of the Subwave Network. Harriet says "It was created by the Mr Copper foundation", Mr Copper was the lovely old man from the titanic episode that makes a life on earth.
Richard Dawkins (the scientist on TV who said, "Just look at the stars. We're in a completely different region of space. We've traveled!") was married to Lalla Ward from 2002-2016. She played the Time Lady Romana on Doctor Who season 17 and 18 and was briefly married to Tom Baker. Keep it in the family! :D
Day of the doctor implied that he returned back to Tom Baker so its possible that he would choose to return to tennets face. I dont think we will see it tho
You know, I remember when Eric and Calvin were watching through Game of Thrones, and everyone was praising Eric for keeping his reactions limited and never giving any info away, which was definitely true. But God DAMN, Aaron's verbal gymnastics are fucking amazing. Every single time they get too close to a spoiler-y question he manages to turn the conversation around and lead them away from it without even making it seem like he's doing anything different. It's both amazing and kind of terrifying lol.
Did you know that the Doctor's reaction to seeing Rose and vice versa, were both David Tennant's and Billie Piper's genuine reactions as Tennant had no idea that they were going to bring Rose back, I believe they filmed that scene before the rest of the episode(s), so pure surprise and joy on screen there!
THE HYPE IS REAL!!!! :D Doctor Who, Sarah Jane, Torchwood and everyone combining together is probably the most exciting and hyped event to ever occur in this series! Definitely one of the top tier moments of the series! So amazing! Seeing all these characters join forces, meet each other and fight against the Daleks for survival was awesome! I’m so glad you guys watched both The Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood because it enhances this episode even more now that you have that knowledge of the characters from the spin offs! Everything comes in full circle! So many highlights! Sarah Jane’s reaction to the Daleks; The subwave network webcam communication; The Doctor reuniting with Rose; Wilf and The Doctor being shot by the Dalek! Aaaaaarggggh! I’m so glad you guys were satisfied with this episode! Shane, Aaron and Calvin’s reactions were so good! Haha! I can’t wait to see the reaction to the final part tomorrow! So much emotion and tears to prepare for! This was the peak of Doctor Who to me! :D
Honestly, I"ve probably gone back and watched this episode several times, but this reaction, is golden, because of Calvin's reaction Davos. Exactly the same as Erics' with the end of the first season of X-Men '97. Calvin knew, and was like OMFG. This is IT. 😆
The worst part of all of this is when this episode first aired in the UK...we had to wait a whole week to see the finale,there was no binge watching back then i spent the week in the fetal position while the whole country went into meltdown.....it was like the "we're out of coffee" scene from Airplane
Fun fact the guy who made the subwave network was the old guy who survived the titanic as he was mr cooper and it was the mr cooper foundation who made it
My friend literally screamed at that "to be continued" when we watched! It's one of the biggest cliffhangers ever and they made a whole graphic to match!
Harriett Jones said that the subwave network was created by the "Mr Copper foundation", that's a name you might remember if you think back to a certain Christmas special (The one with the Titanic, Mr Copper was the old man that the Doctor left on Earth at the end of the episode)
The 2017 poetry book Now We Are Six Hundred, written by James Goss and illustrated by Davies, includes a poem revealing that Harriet Jones escaped from the Dalek attack
Davros was the creator of the Daleks, and appeared in: _Genesis of the Daleks_ (1975) _Destiny of the Daleks_ (1979) _Resurrection of the Daleks_ (1984) _Revelation of the Daleks_ (1985) _Remembrance of the Daleks_ (1988) _The Stolen Earth_ / _Journey's End_ (2008) _The Magician's Apprentice_ / _The Witch's Familiar_ (2015)
Yeah ehhh I was like "noooo that can't happen" when he started regenerating... As for Pandorica tbh, the pay-off was just weird (like how the Doctor got out to begin with?? Answer: a plot hole). If i have to pick a memorable cliffhanger it'd be 6x01/6x02... or 6x06 my mind EXPLODED at that "cliffhanger"...
Calvin is right, the planets piece together perfectly as an energy generator and the Dalek base focuses the energy into something interesting. They piece together as perfectly as clockwork
Remember to have the whole of Series 3 of Torchwood watched before the End of Part Time 2, cus the normal order of viewing won't work anymore. A double Torchwood bill next week would work perfectly though ;)
Back when all the Whovians saw you guys were starting to react to Doctor Who and dropped subs like crazy, this episode was one of the big guns we were all looking forward to you watching. 100% worth the wait!!
And the extra reaction ep tomorrow is why you guys are the 'go-to' choice for reactions and discussions. Nice one dudes :D BTW. Tennant. No.10..... My Doctor. :'(
I love Sarah Jane Smith in this episode. Elisabeth Sladen manages to convey such a genuine fear for the Earth and for Luke in particular. I've watched more of the Sarah Jane Adventures than I have of Doctor Who so it was amazing to see this crossover. Mr Smith's "calling... the Doctor" is very memorable!
It's crazy going back and watching these reactions as they're a few years old as 1) they're new and modern reactions to episodes from several years ago and 2) now these reactions are have carbon dating of sorts themselves and show what was huge at the time of these reactions. In this case, Infinity War was ALL the rage at the time with its gargantuan supply of memes, such as the most ambitious crossover ever made
I hadn't even known about Torchwood or the Sarah Jane Adventures when I first saw this [I don't watch TV]. I did wonder where SarahJane had got a sone when there'd been no mention of him in School Reunion, only a couple of seasons before. I did a Google and found out about both Torchwood and SJA, which made this and the next episode make a lot more sense.
FINALLY! I have been waiting so long for them to get to these two episodes. These two are my favourite episodes of Doctor Who ever. It has everything I love about Russel T Davis/David Tennent Doctor Who era.
If you want to watch a classic Doctor Who with Davros, watch "Genesis of the Daleks", with Tom Baker as the Doctor. Sarah Jane is in that episode, too.
Calvin's reaction to Davros was pretty similar to mine when I fitst saw this. The biggest difference I saw the "next time" trailer so knew he was gonna be in it. I remember the following Monday going into School and talking to a friend about the Doctor regenerating and wondering who it would be since I hadnt seen an announcement. That wouldnt happen now
Calvin’s face when Davros appeared got me good, he was SHOOK lmao
charlie _ I was drinking something and almost choked laughing while seeing his face
I clicked on this video just for that and by God it was worth it.
I thought Calvin and Aaron had seen it before... ?
From what I understand, Eric and Shane hadn’t seen any Who - classic or New - before watching it on Blind Wave, Calvin had seen some Classic Who but no New Who, and Aaron had seen New Who some time before BW did their reactions, but no Classic Who, although I do think Aaron was aware of how big a deal Davros was in Classic Who! :-)
Yeah, I am sure that Calvin had seen at least some of the new series. I didn't realize he had stopped watching.
Who else remembers the uproar this episode's cliffhanger caused in the UK ten years ago
grippingrope99 Yeah i remember, i was searching everywhere to find out who the New Doctor was, until people told me about the Christmas Special filming shots. And worst of all i was busy the weekend this episode aired so i had to wait a bit longer
I remember my nan telling me Paul O'Grady was gonna be the new Doctor and losing my God-Damn mind
Hell yeah!
10 years ago... holy shit, feels like yesterday sometimes.
Idk, still feels an eternity for me
Sarah Jane's fear always hits me hard, major respect to Elizabeth Sladen
One of my favorite scenes of this episode was towards the end where the Daleks gained entrance into Torchwood 3 was when Ianto and Gwen Cooper opened fire and the look on Gwen's face as she literally roared in defiance, wow!
Because the last time she faced them was Genesis Of The Daleks.
@@shauntempley9757 When Tom Baker was deliberating if he could commit genocide and destroy the Daleks and he doubted it but Sarah Jane said to him how could you doubt it after all the death the Daleks had caused but Baker did which is why he is the doctor. One of the greatest scenes in Who history.
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Sarah Jane was the only other character besides the Doctor that knows how devious and savagely brutal Davros is.
She knew that having the Daleks on Earth in vast numbers was a nightmare situation on their own.
Adding in Davros on top of the danger, is far worse, because there is no low Davros will not sink to to get his way.
Calvin's face when Davros's voice was first heard was amazing, damn. He was so excited. I'm so glad Aaron managed to set it up so that he didn't miss any of these episodes, that really would suck.
Aaron's done a pretty good job of keeping things spoiler free and coordinating things to line up at the proper time to give everything context. And his poker face when Calvin said about regenerating back into Tennant was great too.
I've gone back and watched that a few times! He was SHOOKETH! Loved it!
I occasionally rewatch this video just for Calvin’s reaction when he recognises Davros.
This is the highest point of the show. This series has the highest ratings and was the peak of the show's popularity.
I remember when I was 6, this episode aired and everyone in school was talking about it; even the teachers.
No, Day of The Doctor was the peak of show' popularity and highest ratings. Series 11 and Chibnall kill the series.
Definitely. It peaked here. That week was insane. Everyone was talking about this cliffhanger and who could be this new doctor. We were all in shock at how they could bring in a new doctor without any leaks or any reveal beforehand. I don't think they could do this now with all the fake outs and other doctors they've done now
@@joevictor53 If it peaked here, then it started to fall in the following week's resolution.
@@lapelcelery42 the following episode was great but after that it was never as good IMO
@@chriszone50 Id say this is much better written than Day of the Doctor. It just feels more polished and better executed. Day of the Doctor leaves a lot to be desired and doesn’t really live up to the hype it gets in my opinion. This on the other hand does deserve it. It’s literally an infinity war in 2008 on a TV shows budget and it’s done so well.
This was Infinity War, before infinity war. Seriously, consider the villains plan and the fact that this built up from a shared universe. I mean, this came out around Iron Man.
Dunne N' dusted Well, it made UK news at the time, so the comparison strengthens.
That dalek deserves a medal for actually doing something against the doctor
A A Especially compared to the one from Parting of the Ways who missed at almost point blank range.
A A Unfortunately that Dalek kinda fucked up their plan. If he hadn’t shot the Doctor, the DoctorDonna would never have been created and Davros would have won.
On an elite lust of individuals who have killed the Doctor...
@@sophiefilo16 yeah... the Cybermen (indirectly due to Mondas energy drain), execution by the Time Lords, the Great One's radiation cave, the Master (indirectly due to falling off a tower), the Rani (indirectly due to time ramming the TARDIS), shot by a gang of Triads, shot by a Dalek and shot by a Cyberman. As time goes on, the more he's killed by projectiles.
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Considering that Nine and Ten also died of radiation, The Doctor doesn't seem to have much luck in that field either...
Harriet Jones didn't invent the subwave network, it was payed for and developed by the Mr Copper foundation. Mr Copper was the tour guide who the doctor lets live on earth with millions of pounds on his credit card at the end of the Titanic Christmas episode (also, the first ep to feature Donnas grandpa as a newspaper seller)
dogstar75 thanks I love it when something from earlier comes back like that
dogstar75 I never knew that till now and I watched season 4 a lot of times
Thank you for sharing this, I have watched this so many times and yet I never made that connection...wow I feel dumb, just woah...
Apparently he was going to appear on screen with her but supposedly the actor was being unreasonable in his request for pay - I don't know how true that actually is though, it might just be something someone made up at the time and has then been repeated over the years.
:O
I never caught that. Actually, I never even knew that guy's name...
Ah, I remember the fanbase exploding at that "TO BE CONTINUED". RTD is such an evil tease.
StormWolf God what a time
Especially when RTD said in DW Confidential that he has no idea what is going to happen to the Doctor and has to wait for a week to find out.
Like a lot of Steven Moffat's stuff in later series, it was a cliffhanger so good that the resolution had to be underwhelming and unsatisfying.
OH SHIT THE NEXT ONE TOMORROW?! Thank you guys that's really appraciated!
Andy Does this mean Journey's End will be up on Patreon tomorrow?
Yep :)
Hope they ready for the "11th Doctor"
according to patreon they released 4x13 early access on patreon back on may 11th
Nicolas Brent On Patreon and TH-cam?
"he's not going to regenerate back into Tennant..." yeah about that...
That aged well
That zoom on Calvin's face killed me.
It doesn't matter how often I watch this, Calvin's face at 4:45 is worth watching every other episode for. Payoff extraordinaire
EASTER EGG: Harriet mentioned the subwave network was developed by the Mr Copper Foundation, Mr Copper is the guy from the Voyage of the damned Christmas special who the doctor let live on earth and gave him a load of money. A nice little nod back to a seemingly minor character 😊
The Infinity War of Doctor Who
Slippin_Jim nah, the mass murder of the universe makes sense here. The daleks always wanted utter extinction, they hate everything. What doesn't make sense is why they wouldn't have always planned to do this. They ignored the nuke when it's always been the perfect weapon for the job.
The Rogue Admiral
Time lords were around.
Are you referring to The Stolen Earth of Marvel?
That makes Davros Thanos right?
I can live with that.
I am waiting for another Infinity War reference when the Reality Bomb is tested tomorrow.
Man, it's so much fun seeing how invested Eric and Shane have become with some of these recent episodes. Plus Calvin being in new territory now too, I had wished they could've figured out some way to see Genesis of the Daleks before this, but Calvin's reaction to Davros more than made up for it.
And whoever's idea it was to do this finale back-to back, seriously, thank you.
Nexis
Based on Eric saying he had no idea and Shane and Calvin looking/sounding pretty surpirsed too, I'm pretty sure it was Aaron and Lono's idea.
Imagine you where Calvin and had seen genesis of the daleks years ago
And then he returned
Harriet Jones is honestly one of my favorite side characters. I love morally gray but ultimately dedicated leaders, and God damn, that woman gave everything she had for the sake of her country. I still think the Doctor may have been a little extreme when he toppled her Government just because she shot down those retreating aliens.
That's one thing I like about the Doctor in this era; he was flawed. He wasn't a superhero. He made mistakes. His arrogance had consequences. In this case, his getting rid of Harriet Jones left the door open for the Master to step in.
I like how our perception if her changes even though she remains the same person. First we don't care much about her then we love her then we despise her then we love her again and even more during her final moments. That's some good character development...
“I did my duty for Queen and country.”
-Yvonne Hartman (she repeated this line again after becoming a Cyberman)
Gojirawars 03
She came to mind when I first read Wolf's comment, but I couldn't remember her name.
Say what you will about the RTD era, but you have to admit he was phenomenal at making you feel sad to lose characters you not long before cared little for or even hated...
Sophie Filo Well you’re guaranteed to feel bad for anyone who gets turned into a Cyberman, but yeah. I get what you mean.
IT’S HERE!!!!!!!!! My favourite two-parter! The music in this episode is INCREDIBLE, and this story was MASSIVE in the UK when it aired 10 years ago!!
Edit: Great reaction, guys!! Can’t wait for Journey’s End tomorrow, thank you for not having us all wait a whole week, I’m sure after that cliffhanger you didn’t want to, either!
Does that mean that we on Early Access get it tomorrow, or do we get it one day prior to when it releases publicly?
LabradorIndependent That's what I'm wondering too. I hope not! As Patreon backers, they wouldn't do us like that.
Yep - I took it to mean that Patrons will get it 24hrs after this release, so tomorrow, and everyone else will get it 24hrs after their release, so next Thursday!
I remember back when this episode first aired, for the whole week till the next aired everyone was speculating who the next doctor was going to be.
It was all over the news, the whole country was in a state of panic!
Definitely one of the best cliffhangers in the show's history!
Honestly I’m just fucking hyped for The Waters of Mars. Always stood out as one of the best Doctor Who episodes to date.
Nebu the Bald
Still a month away. This has been a long wait...
erosion271
I'll admit that after seeing The Thing, it's clear WoM is almost a direct rip off. However, those last 15 minutes are still a masterpiece. I'm far from being an emotional person, and I never cared much about anyone on that base, but the Doctor hearing them die as he walks away is a moment so full of dread, disbelief, sorrow, regret, hopelessness, and so much more.
On top of that, this episode holds the only moment in Doctor Who history in which I've ever been afraid: at the end, when the "Time Lord Victorious" appears. This moment is far "darker" than the entirety of Capaldi's era. We realize just how far the Doctor could go and see he no longer cares about the consequences of time. Truly terrifying. This episode, better than any other, shows us why the Doctor needs someone by his side. Not just because he's lonely, but also because, as Donna says, he needs someone to stop him.
This episode is powerful due to what it reveals about the Doctor and _how_ it is revealed. Great writing, great directing, great acting, great editing, and superb ending. Without a doubt, one of my favorites...
I fucking love the sheer terror in Sarah Jane and Jack. They both know what the Daleks are capable of. They both know that they'd wipe out the planet. And they both knew that, as of the time it happened, they stood no chance
This has to be the best episode for reactions.
Wait till Jouney's End tomorrow.
Hey let's all just agree that every era of this show had excellent highs but drawbacks as well and leave it at that. The DW fandom is so polarized by "Moffat is shit, RTD is shit" and it's like... both showrunners had awesome strengths and weaknesses too, so pls let's not focus so much negative energy on "X's companions suck, X plot is terrible," etc. Not saying opinions aren't entitled! Just that this fandom has been recycling the same negative energy for years now and it's kind of like, get over it and move on or harbor those negative feelings without bringing the energy down for other people.
And the same thing is happening to chibnal now 🙄it’s like having 5yr olds as a fan base
Who fans are almost worse than star wars fans sometimes. Ive never hated a moment of this show, love it so much. Dont understand the want to just actively hate on a part of it.
@@the25thprime well, opinions are still opinions. I personally really dislike the new, chibnall seasons, but not because I'm trying to jump on the bandwagon, because I personally think the new seasons have terrible writing, and I personally hate the timeless child twist. You can like the new era of the show, as you can have your own opinion. I wouldn't say everyone who hates the new seasons is just apart of mob mentality.
I miss when Doctor Who had all these plotlines that could be converged together to create grand spectacles like this.
Honestly I just miss when Doctor Who had other significant characters beside the Doctor and his current companion that made ANY kind of crossover or cameo or callback possible.
People like to shit on Russel T. Davies for having kind of "kiddy" episodes, but one thing I always appreciated about his run was how well-grounded the show was in long-running characters. Each companion had a distinct and developed family who actually mattered and played a part in the story. They had friends, jobs, homes which made it possible for us to witness the "civilian view" whenever someone was attacking Earth, and they had long-term impacts beyond their individual departure from the show.
And on top of that, a lot of the other non-companion characters were also very fleshed out and well-defined. We just don't get memorable characters like Harriet Jones or Wilfred Mott any more, every side character just shows up for their respective episode and then is never seen again.
Wolf6120, couldn't agree more. RTD made Earth feel like the actual Earth with real people on it who had real lives. He established locations there like the companion's home (like you mentioned) where many scenes took place - which made the companion more relatable to the audience. I like what you said about the ''civilian view'' as well - the human race was used many times by RTD almost as a character with footage of news broadcasts from around the world.
None of the above could be seen in Moffat's run and I think it's a contributing factor to the show's decline in quality.
Wolf6120 Lol if anything RTD's run is more darker than Moffats.
Adam I agree with your rant. One thing I've always said was missing in Stevens run was companion families. The stakes are much higher when companions have people at home who they care for and it makes their departure more emotional.
Yeh, dr who’s been shite since season 8
That camera push into Calvin's face was hilarious.
Seeing how excited they got by this episode made me really miss the RTD era. I still adore it to this day. Tennant is MY Doctor, Donna is MY companion, and RTD era is MY Doctor Who. I miss the excitement I had for the show back then. It was my EVERYTHING. Hopefully I'll get some of that excitement back soon 😉
I'm so happy we'll get the next ep tomorrow (THANK YOU!!) but also kind of dreading it 😢 I've seen 4x13 a million times (and cried. Every. Damn. Time.) but I'm still not emotionally ready!
I think this is my favourite DW reaction of theirs so far!
That would have been wild though if David had regenerated after this half and Matt was there for the second part
I wear a Bow Tie bow ties are cool
yes, 2nd and 3rd thought so too!
Sarah jane was terrified of the Daleks because this is the last time she saw the 4th Doctor before he went to fight them and never cameback ( she mentioned it when she recognized the 10th Doctor in the school episode, season 2 )
MsSharondenadel Davros will recognise her
Yeh he will, but i didn't want to say too much :)
The Doctor wasn't summoned to Galifrey because of the Time War back in Tom Baker's era, he was summoned due to the events that take place in The Deadly Assassin. The Doctor didn't start fighting in the Time War before his 9th incarnation, the War Doctor/Warrior. But because Sarah was human she couldn't go back to Gallifrey with him or else the Time Lords would wipe her memory.
By far one of your greatest reaction videos. I love how into it all of you are! I had to keep clicking back so I could watch your individual reactions with out missing anything, slightly vexing but well worth it just to see your expressions!
Calvin fanboying about Davros: 4:45
Eric asking about Davros: 13:26
More talk about Davros: 19:03
You guys should watch the 4th Doctor episode Genesis of the Daleks. It introduces Davros and is generally considered the first salvo in the Time War. It’s an all time classic episode.
isaacc7 Pretty much every Davros episode got added into the Time War, didn't it?
Time Lords try to end Daleks
Daleks resurrect Davros
Daleks try to invade Gallifrey
Davros grows new Daleks
Skaro is destroyed.
Greppellio Well, from our perspective it was the first volley. And that is how an actual time war should be fought. Using causality as a weapon, re-writing history in an effort to erase enemies. Big Finish tied into it as well in their Gallifrey series.
Man. I'm already scared that they won't like Matt Smith and the coming seasons. I know it's definitely different than the first 4 seasons but I still really liked him as the Doctor and liked all of his seasons too. They seem to be really into Tennant though (with good reason) and a lot of people here seem to hate the Matt Smith era here...
DatGuyKey Matt Smith I think they'll like I'm worried about when Capaldis run comes round
James Hughes Yeah me too. I really like Capaldi as an actor and I think he seems perfect as the doctor and I liked his performance... I just didn't really enjoy the stories that much.
DatGuyKey I think they'll like series 5. It's definitely intriguing what they'll think of the show from series 6 onwards though.
DatGuyKey I feel absolutely the same loved Capaldis earlier work and was excited to see how it would go but the stories didn't gel for me at all
Matt Smith first episode was pretty bad especially coming after a beloved episode
I'd really like to give Aaron props for keeping so many things secret from these guys. It can't be easy to do with this group, and he's doing it beautifully.
A reference that often gets overlooked is the creator of the Subwave Network. Harriet says "It was created by the Mr Copper foundation", Mr Copper was the lovely old man from the titanic episode that makes a life on earth.
Grown ass woman, hopping in her chair because part two tomorrow... yup... This is everything i could have wanted from my favorite eps! :D
"He's not gonna regenerate back into Tennant."
Fucking Calvin :p
"he's not gonna regenerate *back* into tennant!" -calvin c. May 16, 2018
seeing that after what just happened makes me giggle
I know they were referencing 4.13 but the 17:38 zoom in is particularly funny coming from December 2023.
Richard Dawkins (the scientist on TV who said, "Just look at the stars. We're in a completely different region of space. We've traveled!") was married to Lalla Ward from 2002-2016. She played the Time Lady Romana on Doctor Who season 17 and 18 and was briefly married to Tom Baker. Keep it in the family! :D
He’s not gonna regenerate back into tennant
#DavrosDemandsYourSilence
yes but they don't know about that.
also what is going to happen to his hand
Day of the doctor implied that he returned back to Tom Baker so its possible that he would choose to return to tennets face. I dont think we will see it tho
Well half a decade later this comment became hilarious in hindsight.
@@griffinbaxter4754 well
Thank you for not making me wait a week for the next episode.
4:44 Lol Calvins Face is so perfect
17:38 ha ha ha
You know, I remember when Eric and Calvin were watching through Game of Thrones, and everyone was praising Eric for keeping his reactions limited and never giving any info away, which was definitely true.
But God DAMN, Aaron's verbal gymnastics are fucking amazing. Every single time they get too close to a spoiler-y question he manages to turn the conversation around and lead them away from it without even making it seem like he's doing anything different. It's both amazing and kind of terrifying lol.
That got me
Wolf6120
"Verbal gymnastics" XD
17:38 Calvin: *_“He’s not gonna regenerate back into Tennant.”_*
………..😏
Harriet's line "you know nothing of any human, and that will be your downfall"
When you're watching Day Of The Doctor could you blur the opening credits, I'd love to see the guys surprised at who turns up 😅
Did you know that the Doctor's reaction to seeing Rose and vice versa, were both David Tennant's and Billie Piper's genuine reactions as Tennant had no idea that they were going to bring Rose back, I believe they filmed that scene before the rest of the episode(s), so pure surprise and joy on screen there!
This is false.
THE HYPE IS REAL!!!! :D Doctor Who, Sarah Jane, Torchwood and everyone combining together is probably the most exciting and hyped event to ever occur in this series! Definitely one of the top tier moments of the series! So amazing! Seeing all these characters join forces, meet each other and fight against the Daleks for survival was awesome! I’m so glad you guys watched both The Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood because it enhances this episode even more now that you have that knowledge of the characters from the spin offs! Everything comes in full circle! So many highlights! Sarah Jane’s reaction to the Daleks; The subwave network webcam communication; The Doctor reuniting with Rose; Wilf and The Doctor being shot by the Dalek! Aaaaaarggggh! I’m so glad you guys were satisfied with this episode! Shane, Aaron and Calvin’s reactions were so good! Haha! I can’t wait to see the reaction to the final part tomorrow! So much emotion and tears to prepare for! This was the peak of Doctor Who to me! :D
Honestly, I"ve probably gone back and watched this episode several times, but this reaction, is golden, because of Calvin's reaction Davos. Exactly the same as Erics' with the end of the first season of X-Men '97. Calvin knew, and was like OMFG. This is IT. 😆
Also! Fathom Events is hosting Doctor Who Genesis of the Daleks in select theaters on June 11th! It’s with Tom Baker and Sarah Jane.
The worst part of all of this is when this episode first aired in the UK...we had to wait a whole week to see the finale,there was no binge watching back then i spent the week in the fetal position while the whole country went into meltdown.....it was like the "we're out of coffee" scene from Airplane
Regarding Davros: Boys, you have "Genesis of the Daleks." Watch it, seriously! It's the gift that keeps giving for Doctor Who!
Fun fact the guy who made the subwave network was the old guy who survived the titanic as he was mr cooper and it was the mr cooper foundation who made it
My friend literally screamed at that "to be continued" when we watched! It's one of the biggest cliffhangers ever and they made a whole graphic to match!
Harriett Jones said that the subwave network was created by the "Mr Copper foundation", that's a name you might remember if you think back to a certain Christmas special (The one with the Titanic, Mr Copper was the old man that the Doctor left on Earth at the end of the episode)
Yeah Eric he's not gonna regenerate back into Tennant XD lol are you stoopid ?
I don't wanna go...
This is definitely my favourite two parter of Doctor Who history. I can't believe this aired ten years ago! I was 14. :o
Been waiting for this for sooooooo long! This week has dragged like nothing else. Great reaction, you guys!
I still get chills every time I see Sarah Jane hear the Daleks coming. Such a great actress.
You need to watch Genesis of the Daleks ... watch it as a classic segment .. it really is worth the watch
2:15 SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT!
Shane referenced it in the full length and I thought the same thing.
“I hope nothing happens...”
_“Shut your mouth!”_
Somebody give Aaron an Oscar for his performance in this reaction 👏👏👏...I loved every minute of this video 😂😍😂
They need to watch Genesis of the Daleks on the side after this season.
I'm hoping they'll see at least one serial from each Doctor before the 50th...
10 and Wilf together are so great, my favourite pairing of New Who by far!
The 2017 poetry book Now We Are Six Hundred, written by James Goss and illustrated by Davies, includes a poem revealing that Harriet Jones escaped from the Dalek attack
“Daleks do not accept apologies” lmfao funniest Dalek ever 10:59
Davros was the creator of the Daleks, and appeared in:
_Genesis of the Daleks_ (1975)
_Destiny of the Daleks_ (1979)
_Resurrection of the Daleks_ (1984)
_Revelation of the Daleks_ (1985)
_Remembrance of the Daleks_ (1988)
_The Stolen Earth_ / _Journey's End_ (2008)
_The Magician's Apprentice_ / _The Witch's Familiar_ (2015)
The best Cliffhanger Of The Modern Series
Pandorica Opens cliffhanger was amazing
Yeah ehhh I was like "noooo that can't happen" when he started regenerating... As for Pandorica tbh, the pay-off was just weird (like how the Doctor got out to begin with?? Answer: a plot hole). If i have to pick a memorable cliffhanger it'd be 6x01/6x02... or 6x06 my mind EXPLODED at that "cliffhanger"...
Either this, The Name of the Doctor, Pandorica Opens or World Enough and Time.
Army of f*cking Ghosts
Gojirawars 03 That was good too, and Utopia I forgot to mention
Love your reviews - see you tomorrow for part 2!
Calvin is right, the planets piece together perfectly as an energy generator and the Dalek base focuses the energy into something interesting. They piece together as perfectly as clockwork
I love this episode so much, I might go full length just for this.
6:00 It's one of the electric guns that popped Cybermen like corn kernels in the S2 finale - Canary Wharf.
I've been waiting for 4x13 since I first found your channel - can't wait!! This one was great as ever guys, thanks 😊
Really Looking forward to the Journey's End reaction! You guys'll love it 😃
Remember to have the whole of Series 3 of Torchwood watched before the End of Part Time 2, cus the normal order of viewing won't work anymore. A double Torchwood bill next week would work perfectly though ;)
they are watching the Doctor Who movie next week so they will be fine
What dr who movie?
Michael Davies The TV movie from 1996 featuring Paul McGann I presume
The 1996 movie with Paul McGann
Adam
Still a month before Waters of Mars. Guess that's kind of good; they get to hold onto Tennant for just a little longer...
Back when all the Whovians saw you guys were starting to react to Doctor Who and dropped subs like crazy, this episode was one of the big guns we were all looking forward to you watching. 100% worth the wait!!
I’ve. Watched. This. So. Many. Times. And. I’ll. Always. Love. It.
Back again, still love it.
Here again, can’t beat it.
He's not going to reincarnate into Tennant fits just as good now as it did then.
Next episode tomorrow ? What ? I feel so spoiled !
And the extra reaction ep tomorrow is why you guys are the 'go-to' choice for reactions and discussions. Nice one dudes :D
BTW. Tennant. No.10..... My Doctor. :'(
I love Sarah Jane Smith in this episode. Elisabeth Sladen manages to convey such a genuine fear for the Earth and for Luke in particular. I've watched more of the Sarah Jane Adventures than I have of Doctor Who so it was amazing to see this crossover. Mr Smith's "calling... the Doctor" is very memorable!
Loved this finale. The resolution n the next episode is kinda cheesy, but I still love it overall. Probably Tennent's strongest season finale.
Oh, and the dude who played Davros is amazing.
It's crazy going back and watching these reactions as they're a few years old as 1) they're new and modern reactions to episodes from several years ago and 2) now these reactions are have carbon dating of sorts themselves and show what was huge at the time of these reactions. In this case, Infinity War was ALL the rage at the time with its gargantuan supply of memes, such as the most ambitious crossover ever made
I hadn't even known about Torchwood or the Sarah Jane Adventures when I first saw this [I don't watch TV].
I did wonder where SarahJane had got a sone when there'd been no mention of him in School Reunion, only a couple of seasons before.
I did a Google and found out about both Torchwood and SJA, which made this and the next episode make a lot more sense.
The little look he gave him when Davros showed up XD
FINALLY! I have been waiting so long for them to get to these two episodes. These two are my favourite episodes of Doctor Who ever. It has everything I love about Russel T Davis/David Tennent Doctor Who era.
that Dalek must have been so proud of itself before it died.
I always loved this episode, it felt like The Avengers of Who, with all the companions coming back.
"IT'S INFINITE EARTHS!!!"
Calvin, it's like, 30 planets
I feel truly blessed to be a Doctor Who fan, NEXT VID UP TOMORROW??
If you want to watch a classic Doctor Who with Davros, watch "Genesis of the Daleks", with Tom Baker as the Doctor. Sarah Jane is in that episode, too.
YES!! thank you for showing the next episode tomorrow!! I been loving your reactions!
Ha ha, Calvin's face as he heard Davros' voice. xD Brilliant!
wow.
I have so many thoughts, i'm not even going to bother.
just wow.
Calvin's reaction to Davros was pretty similar to mine when I fitst saw this. The biggest difference I saw the "next time" trailer so knew he was gonna be in it. I remember the following Monday going into School and talking to a friend about the Doctor regenerating and wondering who it would be since I hadnt seen an announcement. That wouldnt happen now
Kalvin's reaction!!!!!!! (4:53)
he's watched the classic series!
watching you guys becoming hardcore Dr. Who lore fanatics and be excited for certain characters since you started is a literal gift to my senses. 😂