gibbs615 Yeah. It was unfortunate. Qui-Gon possessed the wisdom and patience to learn Anakin. Obi-Wan was still fresh and a bit immature. It was more like a duty to him.
Marius Yeah and also Qui-Gon would've been more open towards Anakin like the FATHER he never had meaning he would've given Anakin his freedom & his blessing of his feelings for Padme & possibly going back to Tatoonie to free his mother as he always wanted to do. Obi-Wan was just NOT the one for him cause HE always followed the damn rules of the council instead of following the will of the force as Qui-Gon did! Also Obi-Wan was more like an older brother figure to Anakin than a fatherly figure of a master.
Obi wan would say thankyou and try to show you that mastery of the force I mastery in all things. Light dark all aspects and when eventually to a point knowledge that is ubverseeablleebyou evolution to first basic interpretation and understanding of intellectual propertys of your self and the universe cosmic make up n cycle of life sentient and non sentient and then also in open mind and expceptencez n there for have finally achieved the binging of your time in your Snettisham of life force good luck and be all things with classification and mastery of the force you have become Mathew
that would explain Vaders change of heart, about hte only real jedi in his eyes was the first one he met, every other one failed him, except for hte one that died for his freedom... i guess obi wan counts too as a freind :P and yoda has a certain level of trusted mentor... and windu is the one he actually failed after he sorta overreacted
@@ziegfeld4131 actually that's mainly a theory (that personally I find should be part of the new canon) as in the legends canon Luke's green crystal was created using the Sith method of creating the crystal synthetically since gaining a natural one was almost impossible due to the empire controlling most of the planets where a natural crystal could be found.
Delta kai09 He would've made for a great FATHERLY FIGURE OF A MASTER for Anakin than Obi-Wan ever did! He would've been more understanding about him like his potential, his worries about his mother, his feelings towards Padme & perhaps then he would NOT have fallen for Palpatine's LIES TRICKERY & DECEPTION towards the dark side in the first place!
gibbs615 Yes it's true. I forget where I saw this from but, it was said that if Quigon didn't die Anakin would of never turned to the dark side because Quigon would be a much better master or father he never had to him.
ZanKronKa Yeah that's what I'm saying here. The point is Qui-Gon was meant to be Anakin's TRUE MASTER not Obi-Wan! He would've taught him better and had been more open for Anakin to trust as a father figure.
ZanKronKa Ever since Qui-Gon first met Anakin on Tatooine, he's was sorta bonding with him as if he was his father. He also supported Anakin during that Podrace!
Despite yoda being hundreds of ages way older than qui gon jinn he was able to humble himself and learn the ways of the force to commune as well as become a force ghost. Maintain his identity after death
Qui gon was practically a grey jedi he often let his emotion control him which is a dark side trait however he was grounded enough not to succumb to the darkness inside him so he wasn't really grand master material and also why he didn't hold a seat on the council.
TH-cam Lover He was still a good example of how they ALL really should've been! If it hadn't been for that damn Maul HE may have been Anakin's master & Anakin would've never been manipulated by Palpatine towards the darkside so easily as he was.
@@gibbs615 I kind of see Anakin or Vader killing everyone regardless. I think the prophecy of bringing balance required the Jedi to die. Like it was the will of the force. In regard to what you said about Qui Gon it worked for him because he was wise and well grounded however there were those less disciplined that would be suseptable to the Dark side. But this is just my take on it all unless you are George Lucas you can be wrong about Star Wars lol.
Yeah and my favourite Dooku. Even more disappointing is that they replaced Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen when they should have added Qui Gon as force ghost in Return of Jedi.
The duel of the two fates. It had to happen. Had jinn stayed alive, anakin would of gotten the father figure he always needed which would of drastically changed his whole fate.
@@2WHYZ exactly, I love Qui Gon but he had to die. However, I would absolutely love a Qui Gon show about his life before the Phantom Menace with Dooku etc
Qui Gon had another Padawan before Obi Wan. His name was Xanatos and he turned to the dark side. You can read about this in the Jedi Apprentice book #2.
I love Qui-Gon Jinn! He is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. Every time he is featured in the Clone Wars TV series I squeal with glee! Liam Neeson is freaking awesome!
I love how Qui Gon sees something special in even the rejects. He believes in them no matter the faults they have. Obi Wan wanted to move on without Jar Jar and Anakin. Only ends up training Anakin out of obligation to his dieing friend. Qui Gon didn't pass on this quality to Obi Wan.
I don’t think it was quite this. I think Qui-Gon was able to sense something through his mastery of the force that Kenobi just couldn’t feel the same way, at least at the time. Qui-Gon was able to find the chosen one in Anakin, and due to what he felt, he was completely ready to mentor and practically father him. Remember, Anakin was way too old when it came to joining the order. Qui-Gon was accepting a task that the rest of the council saw as impossible, and he even said Kenobi had nothing left to learn from him and that he was ready to move forward as a Jedi. Obi-wan is a good enough man that he does take up his friend and master’s dying wish, but think about that in a real life situation. That’s like taking care of the kid that your best friend adopted. I don’t quite think it was in his cards to all of the sudden essentially raise a child. Jinn wanted the task, Kenobi took on the responsibility. I think he treated Anakin as well as he could while also constantly having in the back of his mind that master Qui-Gon would have his hide if anything really bad happened to Anakin before he was ready to look out for himself. He’s overprotective for the sake of his friend, and then they do develop a real connection more as a younger and older brother. Anakin didn’t need a brother to look out for him. The immaculately conceived child of a single slaver mother needed the father figure that was Jinn. As an oldest brother, I can tell you mind don’t care about what I say whether they know I’m right or wrong 😂
It’s a cursed chain of Jedi, Yoda lost Count Dooku to the dark side, Count Dooku fell to the dark side, Qui Gon died, Obi Wan lost Anakin to the dark side, Anakin fell to the darkside and lost Ahsoka and Ahsoka left the Jedi order
The jedi council didn't believe Ahoska Tano when she got framed. That was so shady of them. I felt it for her. The only 3 believed Ahoska Tano is Padme, Anakin and Plo Koon. I know if Jinn was alive he definitely be there for Ahoska Tano and wouldn't leave her side!!
@@angelofrebellion763 or just make a prequel series to the clone wars like same animation etc could even get into why he put so much belief inthe force and trusted it even his training to manifest consciousness after death could go into how and why he was considered sort of a rogue jedi and could setup how dooku slowly fell to the dark side and also even a young obi wan and do the whole insurgency on mandolore etc possibilities are endless
Dooku really did care of Qui Gon, that's part of why he turned to Palpatine, because he was upset over his death. Dooku even did show a bit of sadness in his voice when talking to Obi Wan.
could you imagine if episode 2 was the love story of schmii an jinn? if he somehow survived episode 1 etc :/ Now that would have been a great love story
oh yea... gee i wonder what the dialogue would be like... how about.... Moff Jerjerrod: Lord Vader. This is an unexpected pleasure. We are honored by your presence. Darth Vader: You may dispense with the pleasantries, Commander. I am here to put you back on schedule. Jerjerrod: I assure you, Lord Vader, my men are working as fast they can. Vader: Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them. Jerjerrod: I tell you that this station will be operational as planned. Vader: The Emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation. Jerjerrod: But he asks the impossible. I need more men. Vader: Then perhaps you can tell him when he arrives. Jerjerrod: [alarmed] The Emperor's coming here? Vader: That is correct, Commander, and he is most displeased with your apparent lack of progress. Jerjerrod: We shall double our efforts. Vader: I hope so, Commander, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.
or the dialogue may even look like [Emperor Palpatine has arrived on the Death Star.] Emperor Palpatine: [to a kneeling Vader] Rise, my friend. Vader: The Death Star will be completed on schedule. Palpatine: You have done well, Lord Vader. And now I sense you wish to continue your search for young Skywalker. Vader: Yes, my Master. Palpatine: Patience, my friend. In time, he will seek you out. And when he does, you must bring him before me. He has grown strong. Only together can we turn him to the dark side of the Force. Vader: As you wish. Palpatine: Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen. [laughs wickedly] [Luke is in Yoda's hut. Yoda is pacing back and forth. Luke is looking at him with a mixture of sadness and pity.] Yoda: That face, you make. Look I so old to young eyes? Luke Skywalker: [hurriedly] No. Of course not. Yoda: [chuckles good-naturedly] I do. Yes, I do. Hmm, sick, have I become. Old and weak. [Points at Luke] When 900 years old, you reach, look as good, you will not, hmm? [Laughs again, coughs, walks over to his bed]. Soon, will I rest, yes. Forever sleep. Earned it, I have. [Climbs into his bed] Luke: Master Yoda, you can't die. Yoda: Strong, am I with the Force...but not that strong. Twilight is upon me, and soon night must fall. That is the way of things...the way of the Force. Luke: But I need your help. I've come back to complete the training. Yoda: No more training, do you require. Already know you that which you need. Luke: Then I am a Jedi. Yoda: [coughs trying to speak] Not yet. One thing remains: Vader. You must...confront...Vader. Then, only then, a Jedi, will you be. And confront him, you will. Luke: [visibly in agony] Master Yoda...is Darth Vader my father? Yoda: [turns away from Luke] Rest, I need. Yes, rest. Luke: [pleading] Yoda, I must know. Yoda: Your father, he is. [Luke looks away] Told you, did he? Luke: Yes. Yoda: Unexpected, this is, and unfortunate. Luke: [surprised] Unfortunate that I know the truth? Yoda: No. [turns to face Luke] Unfortunate that you rushed to face him. That incomplete, was your training. That not ready for the burden, were you. Luke: I'm sorry. Yoda: [strains to speak as voice gradually grows softer] Remember, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware: Anger, fear, aggression - the dark side, are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. [Whispering now] Luke...Luke...do not... [Struggles to speak] Do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor...or suffer your father's fate you will. Luke...[Luke leans in close]...when gone am I, the last of the Jedi, will you be. Luke...the Force runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned. Luke...[with great effort]...There...is...another...Sk...Sky...walker...[Yoda dies, then disappears into thin air] [Yoda has passed into The Force, Luke is sitting outside his hut with R2] Luke: I can't do it, R2. I can't go on alone. Obi-Wan Kenobi: [voice emanates from nowhere] Yoda will always be with you. [reveals himself as a spirit walking nearby] Luke: Obi-Wan. Why didn't you tell me? You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father. Obi-Wan: Your father was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I told you was true, from a certain point of view. Luke: [incredulously] A certain point of view? Obi-Wan: Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. Anakin was a good friend. When I first knew him, your father was already a great pilot. But I was amazed how strongly the Force was with him. I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi. I thought that I could instruct him just as well as Yoda. I was wrong. Luke: There is still good in him. Obi-Wan: He's more machine now than man. Twisted and evil. Luke: I can't do it, Ben. Obi-Wan: You cannot escape your destiny. You must face Darth Vader again. Luke: I can't kill my own father. Obi-Wan: [resigned] Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope. Luke: Yoda spoke of another. Obi-Wan: The other he spoke of is your twin sister. Luke: But I have no sister. Obi-Wan: [nods] Mm. To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden from your father when you were born. The Emperor knew, as I did. If Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him. That is the reason why your sister remains safely anonymous. Luke: [with sudden realization] Leia. Leia's my sister. Obi-Wan: Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down, Luke. They do you credit, but they could be made to serve the Emperor.
“His legacy will live on forever” Then his voice is in the rise of skywalker Edit: sorry that I spoiled I did not see the movie but I did see trailers and I thought qui gon is in it please forgive
"Give a Wookiee bantha meat, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a Wookiee to hunt bantha, and he'll eat for a lifetime." Is a quote by Qui-Gon Jinn. Give me a MovieFlame video, and I'll be happy for a day. Teach me how to click that subsribe button and I will be happy for a lifetime.
Qui Gon Jinn has always been my favorite Star Wars character and an influence on my personality, especially since he defied everyone who has told him he could not do something, then proves he can do it and get away with it. The Jedi Counsel was flawed and he noticed it right away. To me, he is what a Jedi Knight should be. Side note: It'd be cool to hear him again or see flash backs or easter eggs about him in the third movie, but who knows. Or hell, if they are actually doing a movie on Obi Wan when he left to go to Tatooine by himself, hear his voice there.
Erin Kilgore Qui-Gon would've been the better master & father figure towards Anakin & he would've been more understanding about Anakin's needs like freeing his mother & his feelings for Padme. Perhaps then Anakin would've gone to Qui-Gon for help instead of Yoda OR that goddamn Palpatine about what to do about Padme in Ep3!
I assume my comment got deleted idk why but all I said was when one of those punk mother fuckers try to bully you just punch them bro. Don't let noone disrespect you kid, treat those right and with respect even if they don't know any better but if they try to harm you, punk you in a certian way then defend yourself
Jedi Knight Revan to be fair Qui-Gonn Jinn knee how to calm Anakin. It wasn’t until Palpatine manipulated Anakin after Qui-Gon Jinn’s death that Anakin turned evil. Qui-Gon Jinn made Obi-Wan promise him that he would train Anakin. That doesn’t mean that the Jedi Council didn’t say some hurtful things to Anakin when he was just a boy. Your comment is flawed.
@@mercyjoycomullob9871 No he wouldn't have, Qui-Gon would've done better training & teaching him and would've been more understanding about Anakin's needs. See he would've been like the FATHER Anakin never had
There is a lot of theories out there that if Anakin has been trained by Quigon instead that he would not have fallen to the dark side. That said, he was right when Quigon said he would face his demons and bring balance, for in the end he killed Palpatine.
I love how the statement of “history always rhymes” is a constant in Star wars. Tal was to Qui Gon like Schmi Skywalker was to Anakin. Beaten to death, dying in front of them and sending them into a rage
I don't like how they killed him off so easily He understood & was more in tune with the FORCE than most other Jedi/Sith They should have done a better job at killing him off!!!!
Qui Gon may not ahve seen it except as a natural result of his failing to raise the chosen one, not realizing that he could die and the chosen one might be raised improperly, he trusted the living force as well as the wills of the force
Qui-Gon sensed the dark side inside his master long before they split, Cunt Dooku played with the thought living the Jedi Order for a very long time since he liked repeating everyone is alone.
a qui-gon film (starring liam neeson of course) where we see his entire life would be AWESOME. seeing him as a padawan under dooku's shadow, learning why he grows distant from the council and the challenging relationships involved, his romance and the heartbreak of losing tahl, his own padawans before obi-wan, his encounters with his own darkness - would be a phenomenal film. *QUI-GON. The Last True Jedi.* or *QUI-GON. The Will of the Force*
I was always interested in Qui-Gon’s story. I understand why he had to die in episode , and how significant his death was for Anakin’s future. I think Anakin’s life would’ve turned up differently. Maybe he wouldn’t reach out to the dark force and never become Vader. Guess we’ll never know.
I love Qui-gon so damn much and I really hope he get's to come back again in live action form at some point. You can definetly hear him in Rise of skywalker and I love that too but seeing him back physically would just be amazing.
I think I just really like your voice. I watch all your videos to listen to you talking. I personally like your Harry Potter videos best but that’s because I personally like Harry Potter best. But I really appreciate all these other videos too, I love Star Wars and marvel as well. I appreciate your content, so thank you
If u think about it, Qui-gon was right. Anakin was the chosen one. Anakin could have killed the Darth Sidious in episode 3, but doing that that would make the Jedi councils a threat to the republic. Plus, he's blindly in love with Padme. A lot of sacrifices from the light side (Jedi) were made in order to bring down the Emperor, in which he did. I think that's what Qui Gon predict. He predicted that Anakin will kill Darth Sidious in Episode 6, not Episode 3.
No the prophecy of the choosen one was to bring balance to the force not destroy the sith. Before anakin there where hundreds of jedi and only two sith after anakin there was two jedi and two sith thus balancing the light and the dark. They even mentiin that they misread the prophecy.
You didn't mention that Qui-Gon's first apprentice Xanatos turned to the Dark side. Qui-Gon was reluctant to train Obi-Wan because he felt Xanatos was his great Faliure Like Dooku Xanatos parentage was royal, Governor of Telos IV being of two worlds and full of resentment he turned into an Enemy. Very reminiscent of what would later happen to Vader like history repeating itself.
My top favorite character ever with Obi-Wan and Anakin right behind him. I was so sad when he passed away. His first Padawan was Feemor followed by Xanatos then Obi-Wan. He and Obi-Wan almost did not even get together till a fateful moment on Bandomeer. The Jedi Apprentice books really cover their time as Master-Apprentice from Meeting to years after. It's so worth to read.
One important part you left out is that qui gonn didn't select obi wan as his Palawan at the temple. He actually dismissed him and said he wouldn't train him because Qui lost his first Palawan and vowed to not take another one. Obi actually was sent off to a agriculture farm and Qui just happened to have a mission there. After he helped him on that mission he saw it was the will of the force that he took obi wan with him to train.
So nobody read the books about the missions with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in which was clearly stated that Qui-Gon had a previos padawan named Xanatos? Who was driven to the Dark Side? Well, ok...
Fun fact: when jinn died to maul, Dooku realized that he was very gifted at makashi and it was a hard form to master. Because of this he trained his new apprentices to have multiple sabers or dual edged like ventrice grevious and savage oppress
As usual, a great video. The only thing I like to add is he didn`t disagree with the council for any reason but him believing more in the will of the force.
I only came across you a couple days ago. I mentioned how good a narrator you are. I realized today that your gift for narration is only half the story (you can groan now). The way you edit clips from vastly different types of media formats, sound tracking, animation styles is absolutely seamless. That lends itself to amazing narration. I have no idea what your process is, but if it were me, I would first settle on the story I want to tell, write a thesis statement and write and outline. After that I would comb through scenes so they follow my outline, do a rough edit, replace the ones that don’t work a few times then work on smoothing out the edit. I would take my outline as I watch what I had produced and use them both to come up with a draft script, the. Clean that up a few times until I felt it met the standards I had set for myself. So, may I ask, what IS your process?? Thanks. Great episode‼️🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
I wish they had done a movie, a prequel, that explored Qui-gon Jinn's backstop in full, from when he was a boy, to when he aquires Obi-Wan as his apprentice.
Maul got the upperhand in the reactor shaft because qui gon's lightsaber fighting form was form 4 an acrobatic form that was hinderd because of the reactor shaft's size
Is there a reason why Qui Gon never became fully one with the force/force ghost manifestation (outside the planet with the father, daughter and Son)? It was mentioned to Yoda that he didn't complete the training, but was there a reason?
not to be mean but do you know how much that you missed??? like all of qui gon's missions and padawans? he had more than just obi wan as a padawan and he did a looooot of different missions that are pretty important
I really don’t understand why people were mad at the prequel’s “horrible characterization” to me it seems like Qui-Gon has a lot of great characterization as well as a personality and development. He is one of the best characters of that movie and in Star Wars overall
So when Ben kenobi was in the cave, he couldve been communicating with qui gon the whole time. But since the force is in everything, why couldn't qui gon see the danger princess Leia was in and warn obi wan that he needed to take action
Qui Gon - one of the wisest jedi. A true master. My favourite.
Marius He was meant to be Anakin's TRUE MASTER not Obi-Wan!
gibbs615 Yeah. It was unfortunate. Qui-Gon possessed the wisdom and patience to learn Anakin. Obi-Wan was still fresh and a bit immature. It was more like a duty to him.
Marius Yeah and also Qui-Gon would've been more open towards Anakin like the FATHER he never had meaning he would've given Anakin his freedom & his blessing of his feelings for Padme & possibly going back to Tatoonie to free his mother as he always wanted to do. Obi-Wan was just NOT the one for him cause HE always followed the damn rules of the council instead of following the will of the force as Qui-Gon did! Also Obi-Wan was more like an older brother figure to Anakin than a fatherly figure of a master.
HenryDiCapua He might be from England jit
Obi wan would say thankyou and try to show you that mastery of the force I mastery in all things. Light dark all aspects and when eventually to a point knowledge that is ubverseeablleebyou evolution to first basic interpretation and understanding of intellectual propertys of your self and the universe cosmic make up n cycle of life sentient and non sentient and then also in open mind and expceptencez n there for have finally achieved the binging of your time in your Snettisham of life force good luck and be all things with classification and mastery of the force you have become Mathew
Jinn and Tal
Kenobi and Satine
Anakin and Padme
The line of Jedi romance carries on
You missed Ezra and sabine
Luke and Mara Jade
@@mercyjoycomullob9871 tf that kid ain't even legal
All ended in tragedy...
Luke and leia 😳
I heard a theory that Luke’s green lightsaber crystal came from qui Gons lightsaber which was in obi wans hut
Thats what happened in legends not sure about the new canon
that would explain Vaders change of heart, about hte only real jedi in his eyes was the first one he met, every other one failed him, except for hte one that died for his freedom... i guess obi wan counts too as a freind :P and yoda has a certain level of trusted mentor... and windu is the one he actually failed after he sorta overreacted
@@ziegfeld4131 actually that's mainly a theory (that personally I find should be part of the new canon) as in the legends canon Luke's green crystal was created using the Sith method of creating the crystal synthetically since gaining a natural one was almost impossible due to the empire controlling most of the planets where a natural crystal could be found.
Jacobspncr93 Gaming considering everything we know, I feel this theory makes too much sense to not be canon.
its possible he used several chrystals... some artificial some he found, problem solved :/ sort of
What I love about QuiGon is he doesnt give two shit what the Counsel says
Delta kai09 He would've made for a great FATHERLY FIGURE OF A MASTER for Anakin than Obi-Wan ever did! He would've been more understanding about him like his potential, his worries about his mother, his feelings towards Padme & perhaps then he would NOT have fallen for Palpatine's LIES TRICKERY & DECEPTION towards the dark side in the first place!
gibbs615 Yes it's true. I forget where I saw this from but, it was said that if Quigon didn't die Anakin would of never turned to the dark side because Quigon would be a much better master or father he never had to him.
ZanKronKa Yeah that's what I'm saying here. The point is Qui-Gon was meant to be Anakin's TRUE MASTER not Obi-Wan! He would've taught him better and had been more open for Anakin to trust as a father figure.
gibbs615 Yeah exactly
ZanKronKa Ever since Qui-Gon first met Anakin on Tatooine, he's was sorta bonding with him as if he was his father. He also supported Anakin during that Podrace!
I like Qui Gon he is truly a great example of how a Jedi should be
matthew mann I think maybe HE should've been the leader of the old Jedi order not Yoda!
Despite yoda being hundreds of ages way older than qui gon jinn he was able to humble himself and learn the ways of the force to commune as well as become a force ghost. Maintain his identity after death
Qui gon was practically a grey jedi he often let his emotion control him which is a dark side trait however he was grounded enough not to succumb to the darkness inside him so he wasn't really grand master material and also why he didn't hold a seat on the council.
TH-cam Lover He was still a good example of how they ALL really should've been! If it hadn't been for that damn Maul HE may have been Anakin's master & Anakin would've never been manipulated by Palpatine towards the darkside so easily as he was.
@@gibbs615 I kind of see Anakin or Vader killing everyone regardless. I think the prophecy of bringing balance required the Jedi to die. Like it was the will of the force. In regard to what you said about Qui Gon it worked for him because he was wise and well grounded however there were those less disciplined that would be suseptable to the Dark side. But this is just my take on it all unless you are George Lucas you can be wrong about Star Wars lol.
I was so annoyed that they killed off Qui-Gon, he was such a brilliant character
Me too!!! 😫
Yeah and my favourite Dooku. Even more disappointing is that they replaced Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen when they should have added Qui Gon as force ghost in Return of Jedi.
The duel of the two fates. It had to happen. Had jinn stayed alive, anakin would of gotten the father figure he always needed which would of drastically changed his whole fate.
@@2WHYZ exactly, I love Qui Gon but he had to die. However, I would absolutely love a Qui Gon show about his life before the Phantom Menace with Dooku etc
He made it thru only one movie!
Qui Gon had another Padawan before Obi Wan. His name was Xanatos and he turned to the dark side. You can read about this in the Jedi Apprentice book #2.
pfcjev Its kind of ironic that BOTH
Qui Gon and Obi Wan had apprentice's that turned to the dark side.
Yes you are right
If i remember correctly thats the same book he meets obi wan
THANK YOU lmao
It’s not canon anymore
I love Qui-Gon Jinn! He is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. Every time he is featured in the Clone Wars TV series I squeal with glee! Liam Neeson is freaking awesome!
He died before the clone wars.
He needs a film.
He voice acts in it
@@fassad2388 he comes back as a force ghost
Kinda gay tim ngl
I love how Qui Gon sees something special in even the rejects. He believes in them no matter the faults they have.
Obi Wan wanted to move on without Jar Jar and Anakin. Only ends up training Anakin out of obligation to his dieing friend. Qui Gon didn't pass on this quality to Obi Wan.
I don’t think it was quite this. I think Qui-Gon was able to sense something through his mastery of the force that Kenobi just couldn’t feel the same way, at least at the time. Qui-Gon was able to find the chosen one in Anakin, and due to what he felt, he was completely ready to mentor and practically father him. Remember, Anakin was way too old when it came to joining the order. Qui-Gon was accepting a task that the rest of the council saw as impossible, and he even said Kenobi had nothing left to learn from him and that he was ready to move forward as a Jedi. Obi-wan is a good enough man that he does take up his friend and master’s dying wish, but think about that in a real life situation. That’s like taking care of the kid that your best friend adopted. I don’t quite think it was in his cards to all of the sudden essentially raise a child. Jinn wanted the task, Kenobi took on the responsibility. I think he treated Anakin as well as he could while also constantly having in the back of his mind that master Qui-Gon would have his hide if anything really bad happened to Anakin before he was ready to look out for himself. He’s overprotective for the sake of his friend, and then they do develop a real connection more as a younger and older brother. Anakin didn’t need a brother to look out for him. The immaculately conceived child of a single slaver mother needed the father figure that was Jinn. As an oldest brother, I can tell you mind don’t care about what I say whether they know I’m right or wrong 😂
1. Qui-Gon Jinn is one of the best jedi ever!
2. the music is so great, getting chills ^^
Linkingx2 thank you
I love how Dooku, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Anakin lived at the same time like generations. If Qui Gon hadn't died we could've added Ahsoka to it, heh
And yoda
You forgot about Yoda
It’s a cursed chain of Jedi, Yoda lost Count Dooku to the dark side, Count Dooku fell to the dark side, Qui Gon died, Obi Wan lost Anakin to the dark side, Anakin fell to the darkside and lost Ahsoka and Ahsoka left the Jedi order
The jedi council didn't believe Ahoska Tano when she got framed. That was so shady of them. I felt it for her. The only 3 believed Ahoska Tano is Padme, Anakin and Plo Koon. I know if Jinn was alive he definitely be there for Ahoska Tano and wouldn't leave her side!!
There needs to be a Qui-Gon spin off series/movie asap
Ciaran Rocks all they would have to do is say that Qui-Gon Jinn was cloned during the clone wars by another Jedi and bam he’s back.
@@angelofrebellion763 or just make a prequel series to the clone wars like same animation etc could even get into why he put so much belief inthe force and trusted it even his training to manifest consciousness after death could go into how and why he was considered sort of a rogue jedi and could setup how dooku slowly fell to the dark side and also even a young obi wan and do the whole insurgency on mandolore etc possibilities are endless
Thing is there haven’t been any sith present to the Jedi in the past 1000 years before the events of the phantom menace
Dooku became known as Darth Tyrannus when he turned.
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@@mariavalentineh5346 wise I sense you are , force be may with the you
Dooku really did care of Qui Gon, that's part of why he turned to Palpatine, because he was upset over his death. Dooku even did show a bit of sadness in his voice when talking to Obi Wan.
I watch the Phantom Menace for Qui Gon Jinn! :)
Qui Gon Jinn is a epic jedi, would been nice to see him rescue schmii and have a nice venture off world to somewehre fun like naboo
Aurora Uplinks Amen to that😉
could you imagine if episode 2 was the love story of schmii an jinn? if he somehow survived episode 1 etc :/
Now that would have been a great love story
oh yea... gee i wonder what the dialogue would be like... how about....
Moff Jerjerrod: Lord Vader. This is an unexpected pleasure. We are honored by your presence.
Darth Vader: You may dispense with the pleasantries, Commander. I am here to put you back on schedule.
Jerjerrod: I assure you, Lord Vader, my men are working as fast they can.
Vader: Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.
Jerjerrod: I tell you that this station will be operational as planned.
Vader: The Emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.
Jerjerrod: But he asks the impossible. I need more men.
Vader: Then perhaps you can tell him when he arrives.
Jerjerrod: [alarmed] The Emperor's coming here?
Vader: That is correct, Commander, and he is most displeased with your apparent lack of progress.
Jerjerrod: We shall double our efforts.
Vader: I hope so, Commander, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.
or the dialogue may even look like
[Emperor Palpatine has arrived on the Death Star.]
Emperor Palpatine: [to a kneeling Vader] Rise, my friend.
Vader: The Death Star will be completed on schedule.
Palpatine: You have done well, Lord Vader. And now I sense you wish to continue your search for young Skywalker.
Vader: Yes, my Master.
Palpatine: Patience, my friend. In time, he will seek you out. And when he does, you must bring him before me. He has grown strong. Only together can we turn him to the dark side of the Force.
Vader: As you wish.
Palpatine: Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen. [laughs wickedly]
[Luke is in Yoda's hut. Yoda is pacing back and forth. Luke is looking at him with a mixture of sadness and pity.]
Yoda: That face, you make. Look I so old to young eyes?
Luke Skywalker: [hurriedly] No. Of course not.
Yoda: [chuckles good-naturedly] I do. Yes, I do. Hmm, sick, have I become. Old and weak. [Points at Luke] When 900 years old, you reach, look as good, you will not, hmm? [Laughs again, coughs, walks over to his bed]. Soon, will I rest, yes. Forever sleep. Earned it, I have. [Climbs into his bed]
Luke: Master Yoda, you can't die.
Yoda: Strong, am I with the Force...but not that strong. Twilight is upon me, and soon night must fall. That is the way of things...the way of the Force.
Luke: But I need your help. I've come back to complete the training.
Yoda: No more training, do you require. Already know you that which you need.
Luke: Then I am a Jedi.
Yoda: [coughs trying to speak] Not yet. One thing remains: Vader. You must...confront...Vader. Then, only then, a Jedi, will you be. And confront him, you will.
Luke: [visibly in agony] Master Yoda...is Darth Vader my father?
Yoda: [turns away from Luke] Rest, I need. Yes, rest.
Luke: [pleading] Yoda, I must know.
Yoda: Your father, he is. [Luke looks away] Told you, did he?
Luke: Yes.
Yoda: Unexpected, this is, and unfortunate.
Luke: [surprised] Unfortunate that I know the truth?
Yoda: No. [turns to face Luke] Unfortunate that you rushed to face him. That incomplete, was your training. That not ready for the burden, were you.
Luke: I'm sorry.
Yoda: [strains to speak as voice gradually grows softer] Remember, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware: Anger, fear, aggression - the dark side, are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. [Whispering now] Luke...Luke...do not... [Struggles to speak] Do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor...or suffer your father's fate you will. Luke...[Luke leans in close]...when gone am I, the last of the Jedi, will you be. Luke...the Force runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned. Luke...[with great effort]...There...is...another...Sk...Sky...walker...[Yoda dies, then disappears into thin air]
[Yoda has passed into The Force, Luke is sitting outside his hut with R2]
Luke: I can't do it, R2. I can't go on alone.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: [voice emanates from nowhere] Yoda will always be with you. [reveals himself as a spirit walking nearby]
Luke: Obi-Wan. Why didn't you tell me? You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father.
Obi-Wan: Your father was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I told you was true, from a certain point of view.
Luke: [incredulously] A certain point of view?
Obi-Wan: Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. Anakin was a good friend. When I first knew him, your father was already a great pilot. But I was amazed how strongly the Force was with him. I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi. I thought that I could instruct him just as well as Yoda. I was wrong.
Luke: There is still good in him.
Obi-Wan: He's more machine now than man. Twisted and evil.
Luke: I can't do it, Ben.
Obi-Wan: You cannot escape your destiny. You must face Darth Vader again.
Luke: I can't kill my own father.
Obi-Wan: [resigned] Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.
Luke: Yoda spoke of another.
Obi-Wan: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.
Luke: But I have no sister.
Obi-Wan: [nods] Mm. To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden from your father when you were born. The Emperor knew, as I did. If Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him. That is the reason why your sister remains safely anonymous.
Luke: [with sudden realization] Leia. Leia's my sister.
Obi-Wan: Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down, Luke. They do you credit, but they could be made to serve the Emperor.
“His legacy will live on forever”
Then his voice is in the rise of skywalker
Edit: sorry that I spoiled I did not see the movie but I did see trailers and I thought qui gon is in it please forgive
Spoiler! Shit....
Spoilers you fucking piece of shit
hitjack64 that’s not a spoiler, and it came out a week ago
This comment was made before the movie came out
I just watched it I’m surprised I missed it
"There was no father"
The reason why I freak out when my period is late even when I take the pill and I'm single af.
Romina Constenla lmao
I will never forget this comment.
You better stay away from thos midichlorians!
You can't stop the force from making Anakin 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
All hail the Virgin Queen, Shmi of Tatooine!
believe that qui-gon is wiser than Yoda I do. May the force be with you all
i agree tbh
Qui Gon is never alone. He is with the Force, and the Force is with him- always!
Us-always, hence why he’s never alone
And in the Obi wan Series. We see his force ghost again.
"Give a Wookiee bantha meat, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a Wookiee to hunt bantha, and he'll eat for a lifetime." Is a quote by Qui-Gon Jinn. Give me a MovieFlame video, and I'll be happy for a day. Teach me how to click that subsribe button and I will be happy for a lifetime.
Are Banthas even native to Kashyyyk though?
Qui Gon Jinn has always been my favorite Star Wars character and an influence on my personality, especially since he defied everyone who has told him he could not do something, then proves he can do it and get away with it. The Jedi Counsel was flawed and he noticed it right away. To me, he is what a Jedi Knight should be.
Side note: It'd be cool to hear him again or see flash backs or easter eggs about him in the third movie, but who knows. Or hell, if they are actually doing a movie on Obi Wan when he left to go to Tatooine by himself, hear his voice there.
Erin Kilgore Qui-Gon would've been the better master & father figure towards Anakin & he would've been more understanding about Anakin's needs like freeing his mother & his feelings for Padme. Perhaps then Anakin would've gone to Qui-Gon for help instead of Yoda OR that goddamn Palpatine about what to do about Padme in Ep3!
@@gibbs615 Exactly, I agree.
Erin Kilgore Yep!
Well, there is an “Easter Egg” of sorts in Attack of the Clones, one of the younglings is named Liam! 💕
This channel is vastly underrated
Qui Gon is amazing and kind as heck. I wish the people at my school would act like him. I'm bullied a lot.
nico nloy sorry to hear about that, just remember to be the best Jedi you can be 😤 try not to worry about them, for the bullying is only temporary 🍃
nico nloy lmao peak
learn to fight my man no one will bully you then trust me
I assume my comment got deleted idk why but all I said was when one of those punk mother fuckers try to bully you just punch them bro. Don't let noone disrespect you kid, treat those right and with respect even if they don't know any better but if they try to harm you, punk you in a certian way then defend yourself
@@samgalloway5728 what he said
Like if Qui-Gon is the greatest jedi of all time
I fell madly in love with Liam Neeson's Qui-Gon Jinn character in Star Wars Episode 1 because he made the character extremely daddy-licious :)
JuanMamaril True that! Anakin NEVER would've turned to the dark side so easily if HE had been the one to train & raise him instead of Obi-Wan!
@@gibbs615 i think he was making a homosexual reference.
Meansue Who knows?😔
Gay ass
He is a snaccc
Thank you for making this. Qui-Gon is my favorite Jedi ever. And no body could ever play him better then Liam Neeson did.
"Many people in his life would not have been able to achieve what they did without his help."
*shows Darth Vader*
Oh...
Jedi Knight Revan to be fair Qui-Gonn Jinn knee how to calm Anakin. It wasn’t until Palpatine manipulated Anakin after Qui-Gon Jinn’s death that Anakin turned evil. Qui-Gon Jinn made Obi-Wan promise him that he would train Anakin. That doesn’t mean that the Jedi Council didn’t say some hurtful things to Anakin when he was just a boy. Your comment is flawed.
Qui-Gon Jinn best character in the universe and actually went his own way
That's what he & Anakin would've been PERFECT for each other if not for that damn MAUL!
@@gibbs615 anakin would turn to the dark side anyways
@@mercyjoycomullob9871 No he wouldn't have, Qui-Gon would've done better training & teaching him and would've been more understanding about Anakin's needs. See he would've been like the FATHER Anakin never had
@korrok Exactly
@Steadydropn Em All very true! Qui-Gon was also bonding with Anakin like a father towards him as he was on Tatooine
There is a lot of theories out there that if Anakin has been trained by Quigon instead that he would not have fallen to the dark side.
That said, he was right when Quigon said he would face his demons and bring balance, for in the end he killed Palpatine.
Erick Christensen or did he kill Papatine?!
@@leesanitygaming lmfao
Who's the artist?!? His first rendition of Tahl is awesome. She looks 🔥
I love how the statement of “history always rhymes” is a constant in Star wars.
Tal was to Qui Gon like Schmi Skywalker was to Anakin. Beaten to death, dying in front of them and sending them into a rage
Most understand character in the franchise
So basically if Qui-Gon had trained Anakin, he probably would have never turned to the dark side.
M.A. Antonin we can all thank Darth Maul for that unfortunate outcome.
You skipped his first two padawans before Obi-Wan.
Late, but his 2 padawans before Kenobi are only in EU I think.
What about Xanatos? No mention of Qui Gon’s first apprentice that turned to the dark side
Finally, a suitable prequel story
MORE STAR WARS!!!❤️❤️
I don't like how they killed him off so easily
He understood & was more in tune with the FORCE than most other Jedi/Sith
They should have done a better job at killing him off!!!!
I wonder if Qui-Gon Jinn ever sensed Dooku's future and could sense that Dooku would later turn to the Dark Side?!?!
Qui Gon may not ahve seen it except as a natural result of his failing to raise the chosen one, not realizing that he could die and the chosen one might be raised improperly, he trusted the living force as well as the wills of the force
Qui-Gon sensed the dark side inside his master long before they split, Cunt Dooku played with the thought living the Jedi Order for a very long time since he liked repeating everyone is alone.
a qui-gon film (starring liam neeson of course) where we see his entire life would be AWESOME. seeing him as a padawan under dooku's shadow, learning why he grows distant from the council and the challenging relationships involved, his romance and the heartbreak of losing tahl, his own padawans before obi-wan, his encounters with his own darkness - would be a phenomenal film. *QUI-GON. The Last True Jedi.* or *QUI-GON. The Will of the Force*
They should’ve made a movie about him and how he became a Jedi smh
I like how they based most of his mannerisms on Ben Kenobi from the originals, shows where Obi-Wan got em from.
I was always interested in Qui-Gon’s story. I understand why he had to die in episode , and how significant his death was for Anakin’s future. I think Anakin’s life would’ve turned up differently. Maybe he wouldn’t reach out to the dark force and never become Vader. Guess we’ll never know.
And that my friend… is why it was the duel of the fates! The fate of Anakin weighed heavily on the outcome of that single battle
The thumbnail for this video is incredible. You should start doing graphic design
ps. do more star wars this was fantastic!
When he died I was destroyed 😭
Dooku’s sith name is Tyranus!
They called him Count Dooku to disguise him as just an awol Jedi.
Lord_Beethoven He changed his name to dooku.
His Jedi Master name was Dooku.
I love Qui-gon so damn much and I really hope he get's to come back again in live action form at some point. You can definetly hear him in Rise of skywalker and I love that too but seeing him back physically would just be amazing.
You forgot to mention his two padawans before Obi-Wan Kenobi
Xanthoss and ?
A quiz told me Qui-Gon would be my Jedi Master.
First time here...i cant even describe how you have done this video justice thanks dude...ill be visting your you channel
what I love about Qui -Gon is that he is a complete jedi he is amazing at using the force and he is also well capable of taking down most sith
I think I just really like your voice. I watch all your videos to listen to you talking. I personally like your Harry Potter videos best but that’s because I personally like Harry Potter best. But I really appreciate all these other videos too, I love Star Wars and marvel as well. I appreciate your content, so thank you
someone's got a crush
Phil Pacific Legend haha
Qui Gon definitely deserves his own spin-off series.
The best jedi and my favourite character
If u think about it, Qui-gon was right. Anakin was the chosen one. Anakin could have killed the Darth Sidious in episode 3, but doing that that would make the Jedi councils a threat to the republic. Plus, he's blindly in love with Padme. A lot of sacrifices from the light side (Jedi) were made in order to bring down the Emperor, in which he did. I think that's what Qui Gon predict. He predicted that Anakin will kill Darth Sidious in Episode 6, not Episode 3.
No the prophecy of the choosen one was to bring balance to the force not destroy the sith. Before anakin there where hundreds of jedi and only two sith after anakin there was two jedi and two sith thus balancing the light and the dark. They even mentiin that they misread the prophecy.
You didn't mention that Qui-Gon's first apprentice Xanatos turned to the Dark side. Qui-Gon was reluctant to train Obi-Wan because he felt Xanatos was his great Faliure
Like Dooku Xanatos parentage was royal, Governor of Telos IV being of two worlds and full of resentment he turned into an Enemy.
Very reminiscent of what would later happen to Vader like history repeating itself.
Whenever I watch old Japanese Samurai Movies I drink sake. But when I throw on Star-wars, I find myself sipping on Qui Gon Gin!!!
Another great work from movie flame
You cover all the series I enjoy. So glad I found your channel.
Yay finally found a video about my favorite jedi!
My top favorite character ever with Obi-Wan and Anakin right behind him. I was so sad when he passed away. His first Padawan was Feemor followed by Xanatos then Obi-Wan. He and Obi-Wan almost did not even get together till a fateful moment on Bandomeer. The Jedi Apprentice books really cover their time as Master-Apprentice from Meeting to years after. It's so worth to read.
I love all your videos always look forward to them
Samuel Jackson as mace windu."say what again!"😂
Thanks movieflame for this chacter reveiw I always wanted to Know more about Qui Gon Jin. Great vedeio like always.
As a diehard Star Wars fanboy I must say that I absolutely LOVE this and I hope you will do more Star Wars characters in the future!!
I'd be like Qui-Gon. I'd play by my own code/rules.
That makes qui gon the most single important Jedi throughout all ages
Wasn't Dooku always a count? When Dooku chose the dark side, he was dubbed Darth Tyrannus.
Gerald Diete-Spiff, Jr. yes. He left the order to inherit his family fortune. Then took on tyrannus to be a sith.
Liam Nesson did amazing as Qui Gon Jin
I feel ahsoka is more like qui gon than anakin will ever be
BeastModeJ J she’s no qui hon also she’s not more of a qui gon then anakin
Quigon had his dark side flash before obiwon was his apprentice.
Obiwon was his 3rd apprentice, Gin was in his 60s at the time of episode 1.
Bill Holland, actually that was changed to about 50 ish, Liam Neeson was in his forties.
Anakin was also a force ghost in Lucas' "beloved" remasters. Lmao
the force changes through time my young padawan learner
Qui Gon is easily one of my favorite Jedi alongside Plo Koon, Kit Fisto and Mace Windu
What does it feel to slay in every video?
Why is his voice so relaxing to listen to?
You should do the life of Hermione granger I know I'm not the only one who wants that.
Jason Sunderland he only posted it a week ago. My comment was a month ago
Jason you got owned bro
if i need to explain it to you, there's no point explaining it lol
One important part you left out is that qui gonn didn't select obi wan as his Palawan at the temple. He actually dismissed him and said he wouldn't train him because Qui lost his first Palawan and vowed to not take another one. Obi actually was sent off to a agriculture farm and Qui just happened to have a mission there. After he helped him on that mission he saw it was the will of the force that he took obi wan with him to train.
So nobody read the books about the missions with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in which was clearly stated that Qui-Gon had a previos padawan named Xanatos? Who was driven to the Dark Side? Well, ok...
He says “ he’s one of my favourite characters in the Star Wars universe” in every video
Is it a problem that I just watched Star wars A Phantom Menace yesterday. ...
Fun fact: when jinn died to maul, Dooku realized that he was very gifted at makashi and it was a hard form to master. Because of this he trained his new apprentices to have multiple sabers or dual edged like ventrice grevious and savage oppress
Do life of Anakin Skywalker
And Hermione Granger
Eric Crabtree
Anakin Skywalker life started nine years before Episode 1 and ended in the last 4 minutes of return of the Jedi
do life of obi wan
I agree, do Anakin Skywalker and Hermione Granger
He made a Hermione video hopefully anakin
Count Murray he made an obi wan video
As usual, a great video. The only thing I like to add is he didn`t disagree with the council for any reason but him believing more in the will of the force.
At 9:49 if you look at jar jar, he smiles.......does that mean jar jar is are Sith Lord?
Also Count Dooku is called Darth Tyranus.
You should do Newts origion when you watch Fantactic Beasts:Crimes Of GridalWald
I only came across you a couple days ago. I mentioned how good a narrator you are. I realized today that your gift for narration is only half the story (you can groan now). The way you edit clips from vastly different types of media formats, sound tracking, animation styles is absolutely seamless. That lends itself to amazing narration. I have no idea what your process is, but if it were me, I would first settle on the story I want to tell, write a thesis statement and write and outline. After that I would comb through scenes so they follow my outline, do a rough edit, replace the ones that don’t work a few times then work on smoothing out the edit. I would take my outline as I watch what I had produced and use them both to come up with a draft script, the. Clean that up a few times until I felt it met the standards I had set for myself. So, may I ask, what IS your process?? Thanks. Great episode‼️🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Hello there.....
Wrong guy
I wish they had done a movie, a prequel, that explored Qui-gon Jinn's backstop in full, from when he was a boy, to when he aquires Obi-Wan as his apprentice.
Qui-Gon and Obi Wan both lost the love of their lives due to another person killing them 😢😢
I literally gasp every time I see movie flame upload another video. Cheers to how awesome it’s going to be!
Qui Gon is my favorite Jedi.
I am happy u dedicated a whole video on me thank you 🙏
Maul got the upperhand in the reactor shaft because qui gon's lightsaber fighting form was form 4 an acrobatic form that was hinderd because of the reactor shaft's size
I think that you should do the life of count dooku, he is a very interesting character
Is there a reason why Qui Gon never became fully one with the force/force ghost manifestation (outside the planet with the father, daughter and Son)? It was mentioned to Yoda that he didn't complete the training, but was there a reason?
not to be mean but do you know how much that you missed??? like all of qui gon's missions and padawans? he had more than just obi wan as a padawan and he did a looooot of different missions that are pretty important
You now Anakin DID bring balance to the Force. There was too much light...he balanced it out.
And saved the galaxy from the evil galactic emperor...
he brought balance to the Force by destroying the Sith which is what George Lucas said
It took a LONG TIME & SO MUCH DEATH & SUFFERING for him to finally do it though cause he was turned by Palpatine in the first place ya know!
Ever notice that the Force is a bi-polar asshole?
I really don’t understand why people were mad at the prequel’s “horrible characterization” to me it seems like Qui-Gon has a lot of great characterization as well as a personality and development. He is one of the best characters of that movie and in Star Wars overall
So when Ben kenobi was in the cave, he couldve been communicating with qui gon the whole time. But since the force is in everything, why couldn't qui gon see the danger princess Leia was in and warn obi wan that he needed to take action