WRX VS STI RACE (Modded) [4k]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2025
- Just some good pulls in the good ol' mexico.
Whole thing is CG anyways.
Both cars are modified~
Mods on the Subaru WRX:
some modifiers
Status of STI = 91 gas (unknown)
Status of the RED WRX = Passenger and E40 (full tank)
Contact them at:
phatbottitunin...
**DISCOUNT**
when you mention "John Nguyen"
good for $50 off any of the prices phatbottitunin...
RED Mods:
Tuned by Ron Watson E50
Cobb Flex Fuel kit
DW300
Android head unit 7.1.2 www.seicane.co...
Boomba bpv amzn.to/2eSdVJz
Oil Catch Can ADD W1 v3)
Cobb big SF Intake
Mishimoto J Pipe
Q300 Catback exhaust amzn.to/2uCgtSE
Cobb Access port
Phatbotti Performance Tune phatbottitunin...
Raceseng Shift knob
Perrin Shift Stopper amzn.to/2u2QkLm
ISC COILOVERS amzn.to/2LzxLEB
NT03+m +27 9.5
S208 Front Lip amzn.to/2M7IR4F
STi side skirt
STi rear trunk with wing
STi center shift console
S4 Stitch hood
Sti Short Shifter Package
Subispeed TR tail lights
Subispeed F1 Rear Fog Light
JDM Splash rear guards
Rally Armour Mudlaps with red lettering amzn.to/2t9f1D0
Custom Vinyl wrap rocker panel
Black Roof wrap
Avest side marker mirror turn signal. amzn.to/2uCwRCJ
Megan lower "lowered" control arms.
LED all around
Harman kardon speakers and amp
Keyless entry
Follow aj's youtube: / xbl2197
WRX STI (Blue):
Cobb Stage 1+ SF OTS
Cobb Accessport
Nameless Muffler Delete Neochrome 3” Tips
Resonator Delete
Strafe Design Diffuser
CS Style Front Lip
Rally Armor Mudflaps
Password JDM Gurney Glap
Cobb Shift Knob
Aodhan AH06 18x9 +30
Michelin PSS 255/35/18
Braum Elite Seats (Black and Red)
SubBros Rear F1 fog light
Short Shifter package
"why do people put a sti wing on a wrx, why just not get an sti?" lol sit down
The sti wing is iconic honestly. I personally went with a larger duck bill on my WRX, but no one can deny that pound for pound the fa20dit is a beast. Only got love for all my subies
longucd Cause it’s a Stock STi vs Stage 2 e40 WRX, are you illiterate?
lol it said the sti was stage 1 so that means it does in fact have a tune sir
it's not a stock sti, it's a stage 1+ sti with catback and intake with tune.
mike read the video description, listen to the audio, and the captions (both are not stock). i got nothing but love for the sti but there are too many sti fanboys that think the got the patent wing on the faster car but theyre both great cars
some friendly pulls, i like it. Good show you two put on.
Both cars sound great!
Subaru community can be great, and it can be toxic...
Don't make both cars start in the same gear. Unless they've changed the WRX, the gearing in the STi is a little different than the WRX (shift point speeds, etc) So just start the races at different speeds (30, 50, 70, etc) and let the driver pick which gear he wants to start in for best performance (power band).
The STi owner wanted to go by gears so thats how we did it. It wouldn't matter regardless. The wrx is gonna win no matter what. However, once he gets e85 we will try different gears like you suggested, as well as same gears
STi owner is a moron then.
That's similar to saying: well I'm driving a Civic, you're driving a Ferrari, let me get a head start at 80mph, then try to catch up until we hit 100mph... These guys were testing how the cars stack up on similar grounds, not making it fair.
What's next? Let's race our cars 0-60, but you can start at a 20mph roll...
The point of the video is to be fun, to show that the WRX on ethanol will beat the sti with a stage one tune. It's still interesting because they're very different cars, with very different price points. For speeds in a straight line, and similar handling you can get a car for $27k that can beat a $40k car by just adding a few small mods.
ferrari vs a civic...give the civic 10 cars, the ferrari "as you compare" will suck its headlights out as it flies by. Dude, I almost had you.
Great video to watch after a long day at work, made me smile!!
Yo, John!! Definitely liking everything your doing to your WRX. Dope shyt!!
nice runs dude that was fun to watch!
STI is not meant for drag racing.. WrX FA20 would always win in drag races with taller gears.. STI has has a “close ratio” transmission it’s meant to be use on a track courses
Even if the STI is fully modded, WRX FA20 will be faster on straights..
You guys should take it to the track course, if STI driver is skilled you’ll beat this modded WRX with no problem at all..
No need for car part upgrades.. just driver mod and run the STI in its natural habitat.. track or canyon..
WRX = city car, average MT drivers
STI= track/canyon car hardcore MT drivers
So the WRX is perfect for me, since I live in Dallas TX, with plenty of flat straights around lmao. Plust better MPG. This was an interesting run
Tru that, and I love taking the STI up the Canyons
These cars has two different purposes.. one is the “all around” warrior which is the wrx, then one is a hooning beast machine which is the STI
If you live in SoCal, I recommend getting the STI, because of the countless canyon roads and proximity to track courses.
If you live elsewhere where track and canyons are too far, it would be best just to buy the WRX.
I'd love to have canyon, touge like runs but just have to deal with the straights here haha. both cars are sick
Yeah, i stopped dragging once i sold my honda. Plus rear wheel drive and awd are more fun on windy roads 🤗
Very nice bro!!! The wrx with flexfuel really does make decent gains.. The STI is cool too.
both cars are fun, love to see what my friends sti goes from here.
The VA WRX really is a good car for the money compared to the STI if you just daily it and do some occasional roll racing like this. But there are way more things to consider when it comes to overall value. The STi can run high ethanol for longer without worrying about HPFP failure and we'll start seeing a lot of FA20's with gummed up intake valves as they start getting decent mileage on them. Also, the brakes, diffs, and tranny on the STI are all way wayyyyy better in the STI. So a little roll race is neat, but all it proves is the obvious... if you put corn in a DI car with a tiny turbo....yeah it spools quick. So it still holds true that if you actually want to heavily modify a car for the track or drag strip, the STI is by far the better platform....but since 90% of people will just do the common bolt ons and only occasionally truly push the car to its limits, the. WRX is arguably better value.
I agree, the ej25 can chase big power because it's an older platform with a bunch of parts for it. Also, the STi is 10 thousand more so it should have better components.
With the FA20DIT a good way to have cleaner valves is an AOS/Catch can with EGR deletes
I'm running a Crawford AOS along with EGR delete, after 30k miles since the last walnut blast and the installation of those two things, the valves were super clean.
The sti is not a better platform for those builds, it can't hold up to power for shit. Legit you need to build the entire engine if you are going to track it, drag race it, or auto-x it at anything over 300 whp, unlike the fa20. The best platform for those things in the 4b11 or 4g63.
x Royal Thanks dumbass...nobody said an STI was was a great platform for a drag car compared to other non-Subarus. Did you know the space shuttle is better and orbiting thr planet than an STi? Also, you are wrong. There are tons of STI's making well over 300whp that get abused and are just fine. Once you get over 400, then yeah, its gonna break sooner or later. But some pistons, rods and E85 is really all they need to be reliable over 400. But we weren't even talking about the engine to begin with. The STi drivetrain is pretty damn good. Especially the tranny, there are lots STi's making around 800-1000whp on a stock 6spd. So sure, the EJ or FA in stock form isnt great but they aren't that hard or expensive to build up to the 400-500 range and have tons of fun since the entire rest of the car can handle that all day.
Bones12x2 well said
Would love to see another video of you going up against an STI with the same modifications so we can get a true comparison. A lot of people want to know who will WIN!
The Fa20 scales better
@@JohnNguyenVincent You got no LSD and other track oriented upgrades
@@davidbeauvais1364 doesn’t matter lol the WRX is the faster car
@@cuddysendsit3043 I have a VA WRX not STI. The trans is better for track use in the STI. I had to install a Cusco 2 way LSD trust me not all people care about doing illegal street racing or 25mph pulls on the highway.
Pretty much common sense that a stage 2+ wrx on ethanol will make more power than a stage 1 STI. All stage one grants is slight gains. The real power is at stage 2, which is why most people skip stage one and simply buy the accessport and downpipe at the same time. I did this with my old WRX. The difference between stage 1 and 2 are night and day. The downpipe makes that much of a difference. Not even worth going just stage 1 - you're already voiding your warranty, at least do it right.
Yeah, my buddy is planning to go e85 and we are gonna do another run. This was kind to show of base case~
stage 2 is adequate gains to beat a stage 2 ej25.
So a stock sti with a cobb basemap looses to a wrx with fbo/e40 and custom tune. Yes thanks for establishing that
the sti has catback and intake with a tune. You can't call that stock. This is a baseline to see where he is in his power. Once he goes e85 we can reevaluate.
You are such a smart guy. A race is always going to have a winner and loser. Judging from your videos you out of all people should know that. You have civics racing random cars.
Thank you again for making the obvious just a little more obvious
Hey you are the one who point exactly what the video is showing. I'm glad you are stating out the obvious.
Without a downpipe that catback isn't giving any power improvement. The DP is your restriction. Other than weight savings catback is just for sound until DP replacement.
Josh Triplett yeah i agree an exhaust and intake alone with a tune dont really give much of an increase of power let alone just a catback. It would be great to see both cars on ethanol for the next one 👍
Good race my brotha, regardless who won or not...still love my 16 Rex...John didn't know you live in my county or close, maybe we can link up...keep it up bro, God Bless...
Had both. Loved both. Kept wrx until 2020 sti.
I'm leaning towards the STI just because of the rumble. But come to think about it, the WRX is kinda better. Only if Subaru made the rumble sound on the WRX, then that's A1 for me.
MJ Wild they dont make an aftermarket uel manifold for the wrx?
Bryan R I know, but I’m just saying.
Twin scroll always loses its subie rumble, same with the hawkeye a uk or us sti will sound different to a jdm import because of the twin scroll an equal length headers which is easily sorted if an when you modify the car ie turbo swap.
Bryan R I don't think they do. I hear it's an issue with the new turbo placement. I've searched for a while and have yet found a person who has put an UELH on their 2015+WRX.
MJ Wild Another thing to consider on the WRX is the better gas mileage and cheaper insurance costs as well.
Jason F. You can't with the twin scroll turbo it has to be equal length, if you do a big turbo swap then you can fit uel headers aslong as the swap isn't twin scroll. I agree with the wrx is a better option however I've just done a 6 speed swap on my bug ready to push for bigger power but either way a 400+hp sti is basically the same as a 400+hp wrx.
It's crazy you guys went to mexico just for this video lol
(I know it's hard to portray sarcasm but I thought it was a good joke lol)
The sti i love the rumble and it icon cars but i have a wrx 15 i love the new engine save gas lol and build boost quicker and love more turbo noises love for both cars subiegang brothers lol
yeah with the swin scroll it feels very responsive and have a bit more low end torque. Also, it gets 10 more mpg than the STi. That's a lot. You can't argue with that.
John Nguyen I love your clean red wrx nice nto3 Rims
WHICH THROWOUT BEARING AND SNOUT? On the input shaft housing!
My throw out bearing on transmission has failed and grinders down my input shaft housing
"Hi guys it's Kevin from subispeed"
That's my cousin HAHA
John Nguyen Haha is it really?
Have you ever raced a GTI MK7 Stage 2? If so what was the outcome. Love the vids btw
i haven't but i'm sure it would be a good show.
I have both cars and I would advise you not to race a stage 2 mk7 GTI from a roll.
I have a stage 2 mk7.5 gti never raced one yet but maybe oneday. I can say these new gen gti's pull so strong compared to the older gens
Just subscribed after watching a few vids. Sweet rex! I'm full bolt ons and flex as well, but have a stock mid pipe. Have you thought of getting a ported/modded stock unit from SoCal turbos?
you definitely have a nice setup my friend.
I still need to get an inter cooler. I want a front mount
How's your wrx holding up? Great vid
So satisfying
How is your car holding up? I’m thinking of trading in my focus st for a wrx
Hey did you ever get a WRX? I have a ST and I’m tempted to get one myself. Or wondering if I should just get an STI
STi is the best all around car, better drivetrain and the heritage but you can’t deny that the FA20DIT is the future.
yeah sti is a better car stock.
Correction-
1. WRX is the best all around car
2. STI is the best car for the hardcore MT drivers. (Car demands skills and rewards you when you are skilled)
3. STI is the worst car for average MT drivers.. (car is slow, ringland failure occurs lol)
Arthur Rita Becuase most people drives like shit with their Sti lol
True that!! STI is the one of the misunderstood and misused car..
Forget about the STI, if your car has a “close ratio” transmission.. You have to be a skilled MT driver to drive it properly.. otherwise the car performs like shit..
Arthur Rita
I never understood this logic. For one, stis are not hard to drive at all lol. Its an all wheel drive stick shift with an easy clutch and heavy fly wheel, making them actually quite easy to drive, and extremely beginner friendly to somebody who hasn't ever really driven manual before, it is a good beginners manual vehicle to learn on, just like the wrx. Second, the sti isn't really a canyon carver, they are nothing special when it comes to handling. They are far behind the competition now, and there are much better handling cars for cheaper that would perform better in canyons than the sti. Its still all wheel drive so it has no rotation in turns, so I believe on a dry canyon road, the sti and the wrx perform pretty much the same.
Pretty quick wrx man nice
yeah these things are so much fun
get a tomei catback, a downpipe, and intake it will sound a lot better but still won't be EJ rumble :/
mine stock rn besides a muf delete, it's alright for daily. Mods must wake it tf up tho haha
turbobenx i think he is talking about those year models because they have unequal length headers and run a twin scroll setup. The version 8 9 and 10 run twin scroll with unequal length. So yes it is possible but not as beneficial as the equal length setup.
turbobenx yeah the reason is because equal length has more benefits than the UEL so you are correct in saying that no one has made a ready bolt on set of UEL for the fa20. . But it can still be fabricated to suit what you want. And im only emphasing that because you said it cant be done when in fact it can be done. But why would you do that when thats taking a step back? Comes down to personal preference. Personally i like single scrolls as they tend to have more top end power than the twins thats just me
Awesome 👍🏻✌🏻
It was a good race even though wrx had more mods than sti. Having your girl filming in the passenger seat made it more of a fair race bc of the power to weight differential. Had she not been in the car im sure you wouldve put more car lengths or bus lengths on the sti. Kudos👌
yeah i had a full tank of gas and more weight~ the wrx is still less than the sti in cost too modded a lot more actually
Correct me if im wrong please but the wrx is still only a 5 speed ?? If so it looks to me that the sti has the close ratio 6speed and is having to change gear while the 5speed is teller ratio and can power through his gear change and then the sti hasn't get enough get up and go to recoup the distance his lost but in saying that stage 2 that ej25 and do the same race and or have a race around an track where it's really down mostly to the driver and some of the car but they seem pretty compatible and the real difference is just them ratios so a track would sort out who's who and not a drag racing track a race track time attack track
The 2015+ are 6
@@JohnNguyenVincent well then the sti is close ratio and the wrx is just the 6 speed for the everyday sorta guy or girl
Which one in your opinion is better sti or wrx with mods and no mods
EJ25 still good but FA20 is good man
I was Jr tuned on E70 but I run e60 usually...Never had a stock turbo e85 sti come close to me...Even on E40 or so...But I miss the rumble of my hawkeye sti
nice runs! great looking cars. -RS owner, #stopthehating
Yeah, just some friends having a good time.
Thanks
Vegan Dad ugly cars bud !!
people forget fa20 and ej20 are both motors from subaru. they are still the same motor with minor tweaks
Bro thats a silly comment just saying for 1 it's a ej25 vs fa20 and yea they are from subaru but from completely different era's and what they were chasing back in the day were numbers and race wins and trophy's and bragging rights after mistakingly making a freak rally car that dominated the shit out of the WRC and now they are chasing emissions laws and units sold and units compatible with 99% of people not just a select few like back in the day they need profit to survive now its a totally different time and there for the fa20 is a people pleaser engine that can be used in many different cars and Toyota 86 and BRZ were there test dummies for the engine essentially and yea the engine sucks dick its ok for a while and then it just self distructs so anyway they won't ever be the old subaru they once were because they don't want to be and they would rather sell cars to everyone then just a very small few that are rev heads and sadly that's the road they are going down and if we want to tune the fa platform for big power someone has to come up with a genius idea or mass produce the bilit block and then it might become a ok motor
Ayee we have the same wheels, I have NT03s on my boosted 86 🔥
Vtek kicked in!
The WRX does best from dig since boost comes early. Roll races is for the STI. You need to shift at 5000-5500 RPM in the WRX because it falls on it's face past that, smaller turbo. Shift earlier and faster to get the WRX to catch up but it will never win on a roll race against an STI. And tell your boy to loose that STI wing on his WRX, it doesn't belong there. Put the Rexspeed rear duck bill instead.
both cars are modded so it doesn't fall on it's face.
Also rexspeed rear duckbill doesn't look good to. To each his own on how they make their car look.
Wouldn’t the sti be faster than the wrx if they had the same mods/tune? I like both and feel the choice between the two is a matter of the buyers opinion
if you both buy them stock for stock and spend money on a turboback exhaust with a tune (same money) the wrx will be faster.
This is true because the FA20 is a newer engine and responds very well to mods.
If you are chasing big big power like over 500whp. the STi is where you want to be but i'm talking about $$$
where did you get the STI center consol? it looks much better than the WRX. Also your car is goals :)
yeah thats why i got it, the wrx one looks super cheap
do you know where i could order one?
you can get it at any dealership i got mine off of ebay.
I would have thought that the .5 liters made a difference in power stock vs stock so the sti had more of a handicap
What numbers did your WRX make on E50 when it was tuned?
Refreshing video
How much do they charge for an E-tune because I'm in Florida and my local guys are way too much. What goes into that. I am OTS stage 1 right now on 93 octane. I'm not even sure how remote tuning works but I've seen people do it.
my car is E-Tune from Phatbotti tuning. Check out the links in the description.
Jesus - 1000 bucks.... I guess my local guys are much cheaper than that.... Yikes. I think my guys wanted $300 for a pro tune. I was going to get a downpipe as well with a tiny 100 cel cat and have them install that and then tune it but.... meh.... I barely drive so it doesn't seem worth the hassle and possible CEL codes popping up.
Niiice 🤜🏽💥🤛🏽
How much you putting to the wheels vs the sti.. with the mods the sti has i feel like around 240 whp.
_nfamous lol this sti basically only has a tune. Doubt muffler and resonator delete makes a difference lmao
jon lo thats why i said its only putting down like 240 vs the wrx which might be putting down 340 to the wheels
340WHP easily with E85, but he was running lower ethanol mix so maybe a little less.
This breaks my Sti loving heart, but good race 😢
the sti still sounds better :P.
But yeah when he gets some ethanol it be interesting to see that rematch.
Car looks the same but completely different platform..
WRX would always be faster on drag races like this and you will see tons of videos on the net that STI gets beat by the WRX if speed was the competition. 2019 STI would even get more spanked in drag races since they shortened 3rd gear even more.
There are only two categories that the STI out performs the WRX. That will be the in a track course or canyon roads.. STI will post better times than a WRX.
It all about the “close ratio” transmission of the STI.
The wrx does have a newer and better engine tbh lol, just needs better supporting mods like this car and it'll go.
Arthur Rita stock for stock no sti alot quicker. Have yet to lose to any wrx lol. They slow off the line and on the high rolls. 30 40 50 60 you name it
Now this wrx is quick probably pushing 280+ to the wheels vs any stage 1 with intake only pushing 240whp.. so yes wrx is quicker here
Arthur Rita thats some terrible logic my friend
if you put an STi trans on the WRX it would accelerate even faster. WRX has longer gear ratios. nice race btw
wrx doesn't have track suspension, adjustable differential, torque vectoring (much bettering cornering), or 6 piston brembos (wrx will get brake fade on track), or hydraulic steering (much better feel)
what's that got to do with anything must of us race on streets from light to light or highways so sti are only fast on NASCAR tracks idiot then kinda of a waste y can yell out the window as he is beating u heyyyy let's race at the track or wait this is even better when your getting beat u can say heyyy I can stop better LMFAO what a idiot
@@bap7100 Or you're just broke and can't afford the real package.
Ive owned 2 wrxs and 1 sti with ejs I have a 17 wrx now and i assure you tuned FA20 walks ejs lol
Negative.
For some reason I thought the blue one was the WRX. I wonder how much of a difference there is in turbo size. My stock turbo was a VF52 and power fell off around 6k RPM almost immediately. I know the FAs have a slightly larger turbo due to their lower displacement, so they can carry power to redline a lot better, specially on Ethanol which cools down all that hot turbo air. Down side is they make no torque.
You make a shit ton of torque from E85 though, and a lot more boost safely. He's probably maxing out that turbo as much as the stock MAP can allow!
the fa20dit responds very well to bolt ons compare to the ej25. Dollar for dollar you get way more power. You dont need to buy injectors an things.
stock for stock the sti will walk the wrx
"stage 2"/both cars getting a tuned and a turboback exhaust the wrx should win
and of course this is demonstrating how the wrx just pulls hard over the sti stage 1 vs turboback e40
Mikey botti tuned a stock engine stock turbo wrx fa20 on e60 i believe for 456 whp and 415 wtq. Thats fp green-fp red/30-35r territory on an sti. All done with the stock engine and stock turbo on a fa.
yeah...no. stock turbo is running very hot by 400whp. He even stated his 400whp is at your own risk. link me that dyno sheet.
im not lying. This fa20 engine is light years better than the ej257, I mean 456 whp stock turbo to redline that was made by the fa20 would take an fp red or a 35r on an ej257 motor. Here is the link by BrenTuning: th-cam.com/video/87kjcfbdbc4/w-d-xo.html
Is it becasue the sti is stage 1 or sum else
Not surprising. FA is a newer and faster motor. Twin Squire turbo and placement helps
Do you have an sti ?
FA20 should always win in Stop light racing. It’s lighter and Quicker. EJ comes through after a longer distance accrues. Basic mechanics look into how the motors are built then you will understand.
Is wrx 5 or 6 speed ?
Great Comparison... can't wait to get mine up to that level. It'll be great content for my channel as well. Keep up the good work bud.
Where you from btw. It would be cool to do a colab if your not to far.
I wonder how that matchup would look from a dig
Is sti or wrx good for drifting ??
no to both, they are both awd, if you want a drift car. Go for a rwd setup
Sti got spanked, nice wrx man. You car is exactly what I’m planning on doing except I might get black instead of red
Exactly what I have lol
Why u guys hating the wrx have sti wing? Supposed to be loving all Subaru, why wrx‘ Don’t buy sti 1st expensive is more 15k extra and it’s stock, 2nd not gas friendly. those 15k more u can put those money to modify wrx and it’s way more faster than sti and still gas saver, I’m just saying to hating over here. Just telling the truth and being practical.bottom line stop hating.RESPECT!!
albert paul cubelo “respect” yet, telling people sti is not a good choice. Lol
Yeah both cars have it's pros and cons.
I love both cars but some people out here are out to get you.
Let's cut the bull...it's a stage 2 WRX running on E50 vs STI stage 1 OTS....
Where is the bs? Everything is labeled right there.
My boy is about to go E85 so we are comparing where he is, to how his setup is going to be.
John Nguyen I think he is getting at a stage 1 sti is basically stock. There is no noticeable difference. As compared to a wrx with a fuel system upgrade
I would consider this a bit unfair only cause the WRX have simply mods compared to the STI who got his car professionally tune with a lot mods into his car but overall 100/10 video 👌
Flex Master Uhh, this sti is only tuned with muffler and resonator delete.....
yeah, it's a baseline to see where my friends at. We are homies. He is going to go e85 and i'm sure he will be fast. Faster than me we shall see
nice nice
只有EJ系列的发动机才叫STI, 这车本来也就不是为了跑直线用的
WRX after mods probably costs the same as the STI
doubt it dummy that's like 10 grand difference
bap how much difference you think in a WRX and sti stock
Well it depends,
My car is fully loaded at 35,000 out the door basically. Plus mods~ It probably be the same as his. I know his car starts at 35ish, tax/finance+ registration is going to be a lot. So you would be technically right @cravin
lets ignore that though.
But if you say base for base
25k vs 35k (msrp)
some performance mods would be
Cobb AP + Flex + turboback. $2.5k. Another for the tune lets say 3k. (Rough estimate, second handed parts)
Cobb AP + Catback ~ 1k~
so the delta would still be around 8,000 dollars.
stock for stock, the STI would be a bit faster.
Stock race car vs stage 2 + E40 like not even close
STI is not stock
Let him brake boost it’ll be with you run it again
Why wrx put sti wing? Same reason sti ppl go wingless... you want what you dont have. Is the same care anyway, i dont see a big deal
So you won the race because the e85, the sti needs that e85 to be at 380+ he was just tuned on on a straight pipe
FA20 will always be better than EJ25. FA20 all the way. I love that WRX.Even if EJ25 have full modded and FA20 have full modded but FA20 still wins no matter what even if you are pro in drag race.
2rd gear pull
How much power is the wrx making?
PR1NCETD0T i believe he said from another video that its around 300-320whp.... i believe, not sure lol
Is the STi in S#
i believe so, if aj can comment
Yes It is
The SI system in the STI is BS marketing.. They should take that out in the next gen.. it’s only throttle sensitivity.. there is no special map for sports and sport#
S# is too sensitive that it prevents you from doing a proper heel and toe downshift..
I keep my STI in “I” even when I am driving aggressive.. car has no problems catching up to porches and bmws in the canyon roads
Just set the DCCD on “auto -“ on the canyon road and you will be smiling all the time chasing down high end euro cars.
Arthur Rita - I appreciate having 2 custom maps with different boost targets available with S and S#.
It would be nice if they put a “real map” for the next gen STI..
My 2018 STI would reach full boost regardless if it is on “I” “S” and “S#”. The current STI VA platform SI is mainly throttle input sensitivity, nothing more to it. Boost target remains the same. (At least for my car that is what I see)
The real functional SI system that Subaru has are in the CVT FXT or WRX.. My wife owns a CVT FXT FA20 and that thing changes gear ratio when set to sport #.
John he made u sweat 🧐
God I love Subarus 🤣
It’s so funny how bad a FA20 WRX walks an EJ STI 😂 the cheaper model shouldn’t be faster bolt on for bolt on. Thankfully Subaru is FINALLY letting it die so we can see some real power numbers for 2023!
Yeah, modern tech for more ponies and efficiencies !
Yeah that’s healthy for it..
if you never drive sports car hard, just go buy a prius
Dk at the finest
lmao harjot
I wanna get a wing on my wrx
i love mine
AWD cars and no dig races, how sad....
Look man that sti has a stage 1 plus ots, you have a shit ton of mods and your running on flex . I have a wrx but this is sad you should’ve gapped him so much harder with all those mods. Put the same mods on the sti and run it again I bet you that sti will gap the fuck out of the wrx
両方WRXなのでS4などを付けてください。間際らしいです
hmm, cant people ever do more then stage 1 amd stage 2 to their car and think it's fast...
there's a big difference between stage 1 OTS map and a stage 2 pro-tune running on E40. If you guys had the same set up, wrx (FA20)will get smoked.
stage 2 sti vs stage 2 wrx. The wrx would still win.
thats with the sti costing 10k more. still
To get the sti to run enthanol. it's way more expensive and to say it would win with a similar setup, now that i can't say would even be true. Keep throwing $$ at it and it will
Asian thing driver!
Als bmw fan Boy i say subary very nice car BUT NEED MORE HP, ANOTHER PLAY WITH 421 HP AMGA45S, 450 HP NEW RS3, 420+ HP A NEW M140, SUBARU GIVE MOREEEEE , 20 YEARS 270-300 HP 😰😰😰😰😰😰
やはりショートストロークのEJは低速トルクが弱いからFAには負けるか。
しかき伸びで勝ってるね
Noone gives a shit about modded vs. modded. After any engine modifications, the STi vs. WRX debate is moot. It's no longer a "WRX vs STi" at that point...it's who's making more power from their modifications.
Either way, putting STi stuff on a WRX is sad...
Joe Joe you do realize the wing is an option from factory right? lol, so the manufacturer you’re buying these cars from is wrong ?
Get a widebody
I want to but $$
FA SHITS ON EJ
EJ motor are garbage Subaru need to replaced it with FA20 or FA24. EJ need to be rest in peace.
yeah old motor needs to go.
EJ engine is old, but very capable.. The real problem with the STI is the drivers that drive it..
As I had said over and over again the “close ratio gearbox” requires skills to drive..
You pair that with the FA20 motor, WRX will also drive like shit to hands of an average MT drivers..
“Close ratio transmission” does not work well with average MT drivers end result car will be slow and laggy, that you will have the urge to mod the shit out of it and then you end up breaking your engine. “Close ratio transmission” is bad on MPGs and wears engine more if you are just average my MT driver.. To the skillful MT driver it is all nothing but greatness!
No skill on rev matching, heel and toe and LFB. Not knowing how the car respond in every RPM at every single gear. STI or basically the “close ratio transmission” is not for you.
I agree! You be rowing the gears a lot more in the close ratio transmission.
It's going to require a lot more skill.
Slow ass cars
2rd gear pull. Hhaha.
Lol both slow.
stock evos are even slower
John Nguyen lmao no they aren't in the least.. thats not me being biased thats a fact go look it up.. not to mention waaay more reliable and stronger.
@@evotme9995 Test drove a stock Evo X recently and that shit was slow af. My experience with my stock 06 STI back then felt better.
Still got that wing on your rex?! Man just admit defeat, admit you should have just paid the extra 8 or 9 gs and got an sti, bottom line remove the wing, your pissing off us real enthusiasts
Chris Newby does it also piss you off that hes faster than an sti? Is that why you are mad? Does it make you mad knowing that you over spent on an sti to only have it get surpassed by a wrx with an sti wing on it? Im trying to understand your side because to me its just a wing, and it creates downforce and if a car like an sti needs it to handle better, then wouldnt you think that a car that is faster than an sti would need the downforce more? Unless what you are implying is that if the wrx doesnt need a big wing so neither should the sti. That makes more sense, take off youre big wings from factory. Yea, you dont need all that downforce lmao.
Bryan R your a fucking idiot, the spoiler is mostly cosmetic, his car doesn’t go nearly fast enough to create this downforce your talking about, it’s not a super car that actually benefits from a spoiler, go educate yourself a bit and get back to me. Ps I took the wing off my Hawkeye cuz it looks way better, spoiler is a gimmick for boy racers
Bryan R eat shit Bryan
Bryan R I only read half your message sorry I apologize your not idiot Bryan my bad we’re on the same page, I just think it’s stupid to put an sti wing on a dub, he’s trying to fool people and look cool
Its just a wing man.. it looks good! Both cars are great.. it’s crazy how y’all subaru owners war over silly things.. y’all act like a wing is a status symbol.. if u dont like it then keep that as your opinion on something.. he put it on his car cause he obviously likes the look.. no need to say the Gus not a real enthusiast lol c’mon man.. btw your hawk eye my fav sti nice car 🙌🏾
Is their a huge difference between wrx from the sti??
in most daily use the wrx is better.
@@teox7967 Cras?