Dune 2 is probably my favorite movie of all time. Seeing it in the theater was by far the most amazing cinematic experience in my lifetime! The cinematography! The score! The masterful directing! Denis deserves an Oscar nomination for his work on this masterpiece. Hans Zimmer won an Oscar for his score for Part I, but his score for Part II is even better, raised to another level!
Paul's skills as a fighter can't be overestimated. He's been trained by two of the most skilled individuals in the Imperium: Gurney Halleck and Duncan Idaho. Jessica also trained him in the weirding way of Bene Gessert combat, and he's also a Mentat-in-training by way of Thufir Hawat. His time with the Fremen only hones his skills even further.
The explosions in the background were them blowing up the mountains with nukes. There was a massive sandstorm approaching and the only reason the Emperor hadn't left the planet was because the mountains were protecting them from the storm. Also, in this universe, using nukes on human targets is highly illegal. A very clever strategy given the oncoming storm.
Am I right in saying the mountains also stopped the worms from getting to the emperor? I can't remember this part of the books that well but I seem to remember something about NEEDING to blow up the mountains to get the worms there.
Agreed, I honestly dont think he's ever made anything less than a great movie. Especially when it comes to sci fi. Dune, bladerunner, and arrival is one hell of a resume.
How to ride a worm 101 - Worms have rings which can be lifted (shown in the movie with a line of holes underneath). The rider climbs onto the worm and hooks the rings using maker hooks (the pointy ice ax looking things). The hook lifts the rings allowing sand under the rings which irritates the area. The worm will roll to move the irritated area away from the sand. The rider can control the worm using two hooks, making the worm turn by opening the ring on one side or the other. The worm won't dive back under the sand as long as a ring is lifted.
Great reaction Coby like always. Important detail: When Feyd mentions he had a dream about the witch, she didn’t plant that in him. That was a clue he also has foresight in his dreams like Paul Edit: Also, Paul’s “May thy knife chip and shatter” wasn’t a callback to Duncan. It was a callback to Jamis who had his first kill in a duel against, as Jamis said to him. Aw the relationship portrayed between Chani and Paul is different in the book, and so is the relationship with his mother.... I loved the movies though!! Such a different ending between them. Last paragraph in the book, “So you say now,” Chani said. She glanced across the room at the tall princess. “Do you know so little of my son?” Jessica whispered. “See that princess standing there, so haughty and confident: They say she has pretensions of a literary nature. Let us hope she finds solace in such things; she’ll have little else.” A bitter laugh escaped Jessica. “Think on it, Chani: that princess will have the name, yet she’ll live as less than a concubine-never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she’s bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine-history will call us wives.” Marriage is for political purposes...Chani becomes his concubine. In the books Jessica tells Chani that history will call them wife, as Jessica was concubine to Duke Leto I. Remember, he foresees that Chani will come to understand. Remember in all of his visions the two main people he saw were Chani and Jamis before taking the water of life and called upon him from the afterlife in the desert, as he was his guide in the desert to fremen, before they even met. Which means he was guiding Paul from the afterlife all along, even before Paul met and defeated him. Keep up the good work.
Dune part 3 in in pre-production with 2 more in the works if all goes well with part 3. After taking the water of life Paul saw he had no options, that there was only 1 path to victory & he had no option but to take it. Paul's mother told Chani in the books that while they would only be concubines, history would remember them as wife's & in the book Paul told Chani why he had to marry the princess & Chani accepted it.
Another reason Paul used the nukes was to show everyone that he had possession of atomics, and to prove his threat of using them to blow up the spice was within his power.
Worm steering 101: Shai-Hulud have "nostril" openings all over, protected by flaps of outer skin. The hooks pull them open so that the worm turns that side toward the top, to keep it out of the sand. With two hooks far apart, a rider can pull either side to drive the worm left or right.
Your ambivalence about the mixed signals at the end are fully appropriate. Is Paul the hero of the story? Is there a hero in this story? Paul is the competent and charismatic leader we love to love, but his motives are as jaded and cloudy as anyone's in their feudal setup. As soon as he has the vision (granted by Bene Gesserit bloodlines and training mixed with Water of Life induced precognition) of how to achieve his revenge and seize the throne he does not hesitate to put everything aside at great cost to himself and everyone around him to pursue that singular goal. Dune part 1 & 2 cover one book, the original Dune. There are discussions about the second book, Dune Messiah, being adapted by Denis, but it still in pre-production and scripting as far as I know. There's like 10 books total depending how you count them, but they get a little weird as you get farther from the original.
They condensed the timeline from the book. Alia is born normally but she has the powers of a reverend mother from birth. Their is a theee year time jump in the books, Alia is 3 years old at the end and Paul and Chani have a son before the final battle
The Atreides nukes can't be used against the Emperor. Paul uses them to destroy the rock formation known as the "Shield Wall" so that worms might attack.
Denis had a practical platform built for Timothee to struggle to stand on for the worm-riding scene. I think that scene took something like 60 days to shoot, and he had ginormous earth moving equipment to rebuild the big dune over and over and set off charges for when the "worm" blasted through it on approach. Such commitment from the director, crew, and actor/stunt double. Oh, and the black and white is because Geidi Prime has a black sun, and therefore that's apparently how it would look outside. Denis suggested that seeing the world in that kind of way may have a profound effect on one's psyche, so maybe a glimpse into why Harkonnens are all kinds of messed up. Cinematographer Greig Fraser used an infrared camera to shoot those scenes. Dune 3, based on the second novel Dune Messiah, is coming. Denis is currently writing the script.
He said after reviving from the water of life that he could see their FUTURES (plural) and there was only one way through. That as Harkonnens there was a route. That route was to marry the emperor's daughter and assume control of house Harkonnen and the emperor's throne. That's why he told Johnny he would love her as long as he drew breath.
A lot of people miss the intent and the words spoken by Paul when he announces that he will take Princess Irulan's hand. She will be a royal hostage to keep her father in line. It gives Paul a "legal" path to the Lion Throne. Remember that he is the scion of House Atreides and now House Harkonnen too. With those fortunes and control of spice, his ability to foresee the future and the undying loyalty of the Fremen Fedaykin he is the most powerful being in the Universe. This is way more obvious in the books, as Chani hates the Princess but understands the "marriage", and Paul refuses to consummate their marriage by producing an heir with Irulan, staying with Chani and producing children with her. Paul's speech before the assembled Fremen was an example of how they must be led. They will not follow a weak man or woman, they are not weak men and women, they are hard as a rhino's toenail and they need a ruthlessly hard hand to guide them.
Worms are steered by the hooks. The hooks are used to pull back the scales and expose the sensitive flesh beneath. The worm spins and turns to keep the flesh from being abraded by the sand.
The explosions were Paul using the family warheads to destroy a mountain range surrounding the city, iirc the range is partially why the city is safe from the worms
It’s so good! And it’s less Paul turning his back on Zendaya and more him doing what he knows he has to do. He’s seen everything. The past and future. And he’s more detached and less invested in his own desires and more about fulfilling a destiny. That’s why he can be so cold to Zendaya’s character and just up and marry someone else. Bigger his eyes are open to the BIGGER picture now.
He who controls the spice controls the Universe. Spice changes man, controls him. The Intelligence controls the Spirits. The Spirits control the body. The Intelligence that hides the best, grows the most power. The Spice must flow.
I get it probably would’ve been a hard sell for general audiences, but damn it I wanted to see 2 year old Alia talking, making snide jokes, and _leading_ fremen on the battlefield killing soldiers!
Denis is a coward. He could have used a 4-6 year old actress since they are going to age accelerate Alia anyways (Unless they double the time-jump to Messiah...)
Every planet has a different day length and year length. For example, Mercury's day is twice as long as its year ! It's year equals only 88 Earth days because it's close to the sun and has to orbit the sun very quickly to keep it from falling into the sun. Mercury's day equals 176 Earth days because its rotation around its axis is very slow.
As great as this movie is, I wish they had made it a little more clear why Chani has been written the way she has in this version of the story. I see a lot of people uncertain as to why she's so upset by Paul's choices, and the ambiguity of the prophecy doesn't help. But it's not ambiguous at all that Paul takes a tragic path meant to illustrate the dangers of believing in one charismatic, powerful leader too strongly. He doesn't believe in the prophecy, but he sees no other way forward than to manipulate the Fremen into believing it by using the powers he gains.
Yep. Chani is basically the voice of Frank Herbert, who was horrified when people thought Paul was a hero at the end of the original book. So he wrote a second book, to show that Paul did the most evil thing in the entire history of humanity when he began his crusade for a personal vendetta. Then we get the later books, where Paul basically realizes he is space Hitler x1000000000000000 and exiles himself.
It is a bit funny with a few comments!... Due to the source material, "Star Wars is a lot like Dune". The Dune story is based from a novel from the1960s, but Star Wars came out in the late 70s, and was mimicked from similar themes that came from Dune. 😉😀. All meant in good hearted spirits.
That was the first book. There is much more to the story. I would like to suggest David Lynch's version from the 80's to give yourself a recap. I know some people don't like his version but I still absolutely love it. It's still a pretty good version of the first book. 💖 This reaction channel and you pick the best stuff. Thanks you sweety for sharing.
Dune Messiah comes next. Florence Pugh and Anya Taylor=Joy's character play a much larger part. These books are right up there with Lord of the Rings as my favorite books. Thank you. I loved your reaction video.
Part Two came out earlier this year. There will be AT LEAST one more film. Personally I'd love for there to be four or five, but I'll take whatever we get.
OMG.... you got it so wrong... Its like the Avengers he can see the outcome of choices in the future like Dr. Strange - He had to do what he did, if he did alternate choices it would have led to what he saw in the bad visions. He had visions before the water of life but after the water of life he can see the past, the now and the future as well as alternate futures for everything. Anyway that is why he told Chani that he will love her as long as he breaths as he had to sacrifice himself by marrying the emperors daughter. He did not do it for Power, Fame or Wealth, he did it so that they all lived, he did it so she would live, he did it because he loved her.
"Is this a completely made up language?" All languages are completely made up. All that matters is whether and how many people use that set of words and grammatical structure to communicate, for it to be a "real" language.
There is so much more! The two movies cover the first book, and there are 6 original books. The author's son then wrote another 15 or so. Reading the book is a must if you want to make any sense of the story at all! Villeneuve diverged from the book a fair bit.
There's definitely more! I don't know that you're looking for the full story, and I'm not qualified to tell it to you. I don't know if Coby is even the one that reads these, but I had never read any of the books, didn't really get the 80s movie, though I was a child then, and I knew about Dune, but didn't ever really understand it. In the anticipation for these movies, I was trying to figure out what I could, and at least as far as I found, there's a TH-cam channel called "Quinn's Ideas", and he is the "Dune" guru, if you're looking for one! If you want more, check out his stuff. Frank Herbert wrote the original series of six books, then after his death, his son and another guy continued writing new series' of books? Something like that, and just from what I've picked up superficially, it is one of the most layered a complex fictional worlds I've ever heard about. It's genuinely insanely deep and complicated, and I understand you're just working off what frame of reference you have, but you should probably stop comparing it to Star Wars, because not only was Dune first, but at least as far as how intricate it is, Star Wars is for children in comparison, and there really isn't much in common between the two. Which is why Dune hasn't previously ever been done right. It might be too much. They made an 80s movie, that some might like for a laugh or nostalgia, but David Lynch, who's already a super out there guy, doesn't even want his name attached to it, and according to Dune geeks, it wasn't accurate to the books, and kind of killed the potential for a while, of a serious Dune being made. Like I mentioned before, I tried watching it at some point when I was young, I may not have even watched the whole thing, but I remember just not understanding what was going on as someone that was new to Dune. It's probably only worth seeing for the novelty of it. Then just after the turn of the millennium, the scifi channel did a couple mini series' of the first three Dune books, that I have seen now, and to my understanding, was accurate to the books, but just done on a basic cable budget, so just wasn't up to the standard of these, but if worth watching if you do want to learn more of the story. These two movies together only make up just the first and original "Dune" book, and there's a new mini series that just came out called "Dune: Prophecy", which I think is supposed to be like a prequel that gives background to the Bene Gesserit. My understanding is that now Dune is getting the quality of treatment that real fans have always hoped for, but there were some choices made in the movies that were different from the books, but I don't know why, or how that will play out moving forward. So, there's five more books from just the original books, which could provide an unbelievable amount of content, depending on how it's done, but if you want to start thinking Dune, you have to understand that the Dune story line spans over like 15,000 years, and Paul Atreides is just a small piece of it. This isn't a light hearted Star Wars adventure where we're all going to have a fun time, and feel good about ourselves at the end. Again, I'm not the one to explain this effectively enough, but I'm just saying. As far as movies, I think these two movies were great, but as far as how long or successful they can be with actually making sense of the books in a way that can be properly communicated on screen, I don't know.
Paul saw all the infinite choices of the future and they all led to Jihad, He chose the least worst(it still embroils the galaxy in a war that leaves 60 billion dead and hundreds of planets uninhabitable. To do this, he had to take the emperor's daughter as queen. Chani will be his concubine, as Jessica was Leto's. She will bear his children and be loved, while Irulan will never hear a kind word.
Book Chani is deeply embedded in Fremen culture and spirituality - she accepts and understands the religious traditions of her people, including their belief in prophecies. Her anti-establishment, anti-religion sentiments, and her tantrums, are inserted into the movie, for presumably, 'modern audiences'
There are like 16 books or something. They get really far out and strange but my understanding is they are just making the next book dune messiah. But you never know. Money talks so if it makes a killing at the box office who knows. Maybe they will do more. HBO has already made a mini series about the origins of the bene jesserit
The Freman language is a mixture of Arabic, Persian (Farsi) & Pali. During the great space migration, when humans left Earth thousands of years ago to the point they do not recall the home world anymore. Many of the old Earth faiths merged like Buddhism & Islam into Buddhislam (Zensunni sect) The Fremen refer to Paul in the Arabic word Mahdi (Messiah). The sect Zensunni Wanderers are the direct ancestors of the Fremen. They would wander from planet to planet to avoid persecution until they settled on Arrakis. As the quote: "Arrakis tests the faithful." The Imperium of the Padishah Emperor Shadam IV is a realm of mergers of other Old Earth faiths and cultures along with Buddhislam with the Orange Catholic Bible. The Fremen see it as a corrupted interpretation. This leads to the Jihad by Paul Maud'Dib and the Freemen. The last holy war in the Dune universe was the Butlerian Jihad against Artificial Intelligent machines centuries ago. Humans became decadent and enslaved to the machines for basic functions. Hence, the intense religiousity during Paul Atredes time. The highest regard is to be a true human and not animal.
Paul pulls the (foot long) crysknife from his abdomen/stomach, without Feyd noticing while they are practically body to body, and stabs it into Feyd while they struggle over the knife in his shoulder. It's unclear editing and another pointless change to the book. The book fight ends with Paul judo-flipping Feyd to avoid a poison barb in his belt and then killing him on the ground. I think it would have been much more cinematic.
The mother is willing to sacrifice millions to achieve victory, regardless of their suffering. Paul is hesitant to starve millions of people to death by taking over the spice and cutting of worlds that don't support him. The entire story is an ethical and religious dilemma. It's a warning about messianic figures, and the atrocities people commit to follow them.
The vast majority of people who watch the movies and don't know the books don't understand the story at all. Even the people who read the first book when it was first released, didn't understand the story. That's why Dune Messiah was written, to point out, PAUL ISN'T THE GOOD GUY.
If you actually paid attention to both movies, you wouldn't be so off the rails regarding the point of the story and characters' motivations. And you wouldn't be missing the subtext.
@@chand911I particularly don’t get how she was “trying to figure out what the big explosions were”… the nuclear explosions they spent several entire scenes explicitly explaining they were going to use at the start of the attack.
Be intresting to see if Coby understands that Paul is a villian/anti hero. Definitely no hero. I mean hell Herbert wanted people to be disgusted by Paul not see him as a hero.
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Calling Paul a villain is misguided though. The entire Dune series attempts to answer the question of whether someone still has agency when they can see the future. Does pursuing the least damaging outcome justify your actions? Is the fate of all humanity worth the price of damnation? The Golden Path is a hard road, which Paul ultimately doesn't have the stomach for and only his son can bring to fruition.
He's not a villain, he is a hero. The point Frank Herbert was trying to make is that the reality of a hero is a terrible thing, and not to deify and empower people to become heroes. Because heroes are human, and all humans are flawed. Empowering them to subject their will on such a grand scale has terrible consequences
@@lachlanmarshall39 You're 100% totally wrong. Paul is a villain. He uses a fanatical religious sect to launch a crusade that kills untold billions of people. He doesn't do it for them. He does it for himself, and his own vendetta. The Harkonnen are basically a plot device. They are the over the top, easily recognizable evil that anyone and everyone should know to resist. Paul is something else. He is the "Charismatic Leader" that leads people into doing unspeakable horrors. You would probably agree that the Harkonnen are evil, yet, in the final moments of this movie, Paul starts something that is more evil, than anything the Harkonnen did in the entire history of their house. This book series was only supposed to be a single book. People, like you, totally misunderstood the message, and so Herbert wrote a sequel called Dune Messiah. The third movie that they are doing is Dune Messiah. In it, Herbert's entire purpose was to point out that Paul did the worst thing in the history of the human race, ever, full stop, ever.
Star Wars is Dune but for children. When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things and watched Dune.
I'm a man, I like both. I could pick you up by your ankle and shake your lunch money out. When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a manchild, I acted like a tosser - krisbrown6692.
Does anybody else who watches Coby ever wonder if she reacts to watching content the same in her own time off camera? Or if she naturally tends to want to talk and ask questions while watching things with other people more now?
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The Harkonnen planet has a black sun, so when the characters are outside it looks black and white (it was actually filmed with an infrared filter). 😎👍
the detail of the black robes turning white under the sunlight is so awesome. The bene geserit sisters look wild with white gowns
Dune 2 is probably my favorite movie of all time. Seeing it in the theater was by far the most amazing cinematic experience in my lifetime! The cinematography! The score! The masterful directing! Denis deserves an Oscar nomination for his work on this masterpiece. Hans Zimmer won an Oscar for his score for Part I, but his score for Part II is even better, raised to another level!
The music when Paul walks through the crowd of Fremen after drinking the water of life was something to behold in IMAX.
Paul's skills as a fighter can't be overestimated. He's been trained by two of the most skilled individuals in the Imperium: Gurney Halleck and Duncan Idaho. Jessica also trained him in the weirding way of Bene Gessert combat, and he's also a Mentat-in-training by way of Thufir Hawat. His time with the Fremen only hones his skills even further.
Too bad the Weirding Way isn't established in this version...
Precognition and precience being a side effect of high level Spice Melange exposure has something to do with it as well.
The explosions in the background were them blowing up the mountains with nukes.
There was a massive sandstorm approaching and the only reason the Emperor hadn't left the planet was because the mountains were protecting them from the storm. Also, in this universe, using nukes on human targets is highly illegal.
A very clever strategy given the oncoming storm.
Am I right in saying the mountains also stopped the worms from getting to the emperor? I can't remember this part of the books that well but I seem to remember something about NEEDING to blow up the mountains to get the worms there.
When Denis does sci-fi, he does not miss. Please watch Arrival if you haven't seen it.
Agreed, I honestly dont think he's ever made anything less than a great movie. Especially when it comes to sci fi. Dune, bladerunner, and arrival is one hell of a resume.
How to ride a worm 101 -
Worms have rings which can be lifted (shown in the movie with a line of holes underneath). The rider climbs onto the worm and hooks the rings using maker hooks (the pointy ice ax looking things). The hook lifts the rings allowing sand under the rings which irritates the area. The worm will roll to move the irritated area away from the sand.
The rider can control the worm using two hooks, making the worm turn by opening the ring on one side or the other.
The worm won't dive back under the sand as long as a ring is lifted.
He didn't nuke the place where the emperor was because he wanted him alive. So they nuked the mountains behind to let the worms in.
Rebecca Ferguson played Lady Jessica Atreides in “Dune” and is in the Apple TV series “Silo”, which I would recommend.
Great reaction Coby like always. Important detail: When Feyd mentions he had a dream about the witch, she didn’t plant that in him. That was a clue he also has foresight in his dreams like Paul Edit: Also, Paul’s “May thy knife chip and shatter” wasn’t a callback to Duncan. It was a callback to Jamis who had his first kill in a duel against, as Jamis said to him.
Aw the relationship portrayed between Chani and Paul is different in the book, and so is the relationship with his mother.... I loved the movies though!! Such a different ending between them. Last paragraph in the book,
“So you say now,” Chani said. She glanced across the room at the tall princess.
“Do you know so little of my son?” Jessica whispered. “See that princess standing there, so haughty and confident: They say she has pretensions of a literary nature. Let us hope she finds solace in such things; she’ll have little else.” A bitter laugh escaped Jessica. “Think on it, Chani: that princess will have the name, yet she’ll live as less than a concubine-never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she’s bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine-history will call us wives.”
Marriage is for political purposes...Chani becomes his concubine. In the books Jessica tells Chani that history will call them wife, as Jessica was concubine to Duke Leto I. Remember, he foresees that Chani will come to understand.
Remember in all of his visions the two main people he saw were Chani and Jamis before taking the water of life and called upon him from the afterlife in the desert, as he was his guide in the desert to fremen, before they even met. Which means he was guiding Paul from the afterlife all along, even before Paul met and defeated him. Keep up the good work.
Boy are we lucky! Both releases, so close together. You are the greatest! 🙌🏾 ⚡️
Dune part 3 in in pre-production with 2 more in the works if all goes well with part 3.
After taking the water of life Paul saw he had no options, that there was only 1 path to victory & he had no option but to take it.
Paul's mother told Chani in the books that while they would only be concubines, history would remember them as wife's & in the book Paul told Chani why he had to marry the princess & Chani accepted it.
He didn't betray them. When he took the blue liquid, he said he saw a narrow path for victory, marrying the princess was part of that vision
he destroyed their democratic way of life and used them for his own political ends
4:40 and the emperor said it needs more cowbells
7:31 it never rains on Arrakis, but suddenly It's raining Men
Another reason Paul used the nukes was to show everyone that he had possession of atomics, and to prove his threat of using them to blow up the spice was within his power.
Worm steering 101: Shai-Hulud have "nostril" openings all over, protected by flaps of outer skin. The hooks pull them open so that the worm turns that side toward the top, to keep it out of the sand. With two hooks far apart, a rider can pull either side to drive the worm left or right.
Your ambivalence about the mixed signals at the end are fully appropriate. Is Paul the hero of the story? Is there a hero in this story? Paul is the competent and charismatic leader we love to love, but his motives are as jaded and cloudy as anyone's in their feudal setup. As soon as he has the vision (granted by Bene Gesserit bloodlines and training mixed with Water of Life induced precognition) of how to achieve his revenge and seize the throne he does not hesitate to put everything aside at great cost to himself and everyone around him to pursue that singular goal.
Dune part 1 & 2 cover one book, the original Dune. There are discussions about the second book, Dune Messiah, being adapted by Denis, but it still in pre-production and scripting as far as I know. There's like 10 books total depending how you count them, but they get a little weird as you get farther from the original.
They condensed the timeline from the book.
Alia is born normally but she has the powers of a reverend mother from birth.
Their is a theee year time jump in the books, Alia is 3 years old at the end and Paul and Chani have a son before the final battle
I haven't been willing to commit to reading the series but just reading the synopsis of where the story goes in the books is incredible.
"I need a nap." lol yes, Dune is very exhausting...it's a metal workout every time. But so much fun!
The Atreides nukes can't be used against the Emperor. Paul uses them to destroy the rock formation known as the "Shield Wall" so that worms might attack.
Denis had a practical platform built for Timothee to struggle to stand on for the worm-riding scene. I think that scene took something like 60 days to shoot, and he had ginormous earth moving equipment to rebuild the big dune over and over and set off charges for when the "worm" blasted through it on approach. Such commitment from the director, crew, and actor/stunt double. Oh, and the black and white is because Geidi Prime has a black sun, and therefore that's apparently how it would look outside. Denis suggested that seeing the world in that kind of way may have a profound effect on one's psyche, so maybe a glimpse into why Harkonnens are all kinds of messed up. Cinematographer Greig Fraser used an infrared camera to shoot those scenes.
Dune 3, based on the second novel Dune Messiah, is coming. Denis is currently writing the script.
It’s black & white due to their black sun limited visible spectrum. Indoors it’s normal.
Dune is what you get when you have a director and composer who are both extremely passionate about the books.
Villeneuve’s a genius
He said after reviving from the water of life that he could see their FUTURES (plural) and there was only one way through. That as Harkonnens there was a route. That route was to marry the emperor's daughter and assume control of house Harkonnen and the emperor's throne. That's why he told Johnny he would love her as long as he drew breath.
A lot of people miss the intent and the words spoken by Paul when he announces that he will take Princess Irulan's hand. She will be a royal hostage to keep her father in line. It gives Paul a "legal" path to the Lion Throne. Remember that he is the scion of House Atreides and now House Harkonnen too. With those fortunes and control of spice, his ability to foresee the future and the undying loyalty of the Fremen Fedaykin he is the most powerful being in the Universe. This is way more obvious in the books, as Chani hates the Princess but understands the "marriage", and Paul refuses to consummate their marriage by producing an heir with Irulan, staying with Chani and producing children with her. Paul's speech before the assembled Fremen was an example of how they must be led. They will not follow a weak man or woman, they are not weak men and women, they are hard as a rhino's toenail and they need a ruthlessly hard hand to guide them.
Worms are steered by the hooks. The hooks are used to pull back the scales and expose the sensitive flesh beneath. The worm spins and turns to keep the flesh from being abraded by the sand.
The explosions were Paul using the family warheads to destroy a mountain range surrounding the city, iirc the range is partially why the city is safe from the worms
It’s so good! And it’s less Paul turning his back on Zendaya and more him doing what he knows he has to do. He’s seen everything. The past and future. And he’s more detached and less invested in his own desires and more about fulfilling a destiny. That’s why he can be so cold to Zendaya’s character and just up and marry someone else. Bigger his eyes are open to the BIGGER picture now.
He who controls the spice controls the Universe.
Spice changes man, controls him.
The Intelligence controls the Spirits.
The Spirits control the body.
The Intelligence that hides the best, grows the most power.
The Spice must flow.
I get it probably would’ve been a hard sell for general audiences, but damn it I wanted to see 2 year old Alia talking, making snide jokes, and _leading_ fremen on the battlefield killing soldiers!
Denis is a coward. He could have used a 4-6 year old actress since they are going to age accelerate Alia anyways (Unless they double the time-jump to Messiah...)
Every planet has a different day length and year length. For example, Mercury's day is twice as long as its year ! It's year equals only 88 Earth days because it's close to the sun and has to orbit the sun very quickly to keep it from falling into the sun. Mercury's day equals 176 Earth days because its rotation around its axis is very slow.
As great as this movie is, I wish they had made it a little more clear why Chani has been written the way she has in this version of the story. I see a lot of people uncertain as to why she's so upset by Paul's choices, and the ambiguity of the prophecy doesn't help. But it's not ambiguous at all that Paul takes a tragic path meant to illustrate the dangers of believing in one charismatic, powerful leader too strongly. He doesn't believe in the prophecy, but he sees no other way forward than to manipulate the Fremen into believing it by using the powers he gains.
Yep. Chani is basically the voice of Frank Herbert, who was horrified when people thought Paul was a hero at the end of the original book. So he wrote a second book, to show that Paul did the most evil thing in the entire history of humanity when he began his crusade for a personal vendetta. Then we get the later books, where Paul basically realizes he is space Hitler x1000000000000000 and exiles himself.
It is a bit funny with a few comments!... Due to the source material, "Star Wars is a lot like Dune". The Dune story is based from a novel from the1960s, but Star Wars came out in the late 70s, and was mimicked from similar themes that came from Dune. 😉😀. All meant in good hearted spirits.
The black sun on the Harkonen world emmits infrared light. So everything exposed to the light of the sun turns black and white.
And the exterior scenes were indeed filmed with infrared cameras.
That was the first book. There is much more to the story.
I would like to suggest David Lynch's version from the 80's to give yourself a recap. I know some people don't like his version but I still absolutely love it. It's still a pretty good version of the first book.
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Many don't like Lynch's version, him being the first.
Dune Messiah comes next. Florence Pugh and Anya Taylor=Joy's character play a much larger part. These books are right up there with Lord of the Rings as my favorite books.
Thank you. I loved your reaction video.
There is much much more much more, and Denis Villeneuve is directing…😊😊😊😊
Part Two came out earlier this year. There will be AT LEAST one more film. Personally I'd love for there to be four or five, but I'll take whatever we get.
CANT WAIT FOR DUNE 3 2026!!!!!
The Spice must flow
OMG.... you got it so wrong... Its like the Avengers he can see the outcome of choices in the future like Dr. Strange - He had to do what he did, if he did alternate choices it would have led to what he saw in the bad visions. He had visions before the water of life but after the water of life he can see the past, the now and the future as well as alternate futures for everything. Anyway that is why he told Chani that he will love her as long as he breaths as he had to sacrifice himself by marrying the emperors daughter. He did not do it for Power, Fame or Wealth, he did it so that they all lived, he did it so she would live, he did it because he loved her.
"Is this a completely made up language?"
All languages are completely made up. All that matters is whether and how many people use that set of words and grammatical structure to communicate, for it to be a "real" language.
And yup. Part 3 is a comingggggg 🔥
There is so much more! The two movies cover the first book, and there are 6 original books. The author's son then wrote another 15 or so.
Reading the book is a must if you want to make any sense of the story at all! Villeneuve diverged from the book a fair bit.
There's definitely more! I don't know that you're looking for the full story, and I'm not qualified to tell it to you. I don't know if Coby is even the one that reads these, but I had never read any of the books, didn't really get the 80s movie, though I was a child then, and I knew about Dune, but didn't ever really understand it. In the anticipation for these movies, I was trying to figure out what I could, and at least as far as I found, there's a TH-cam channel called "Quinn's Ideas", and he is the "Dune" guru, if you're looking for one! If you want more, check out his stuff.
Frank Herbert wrote the original series of six books, then after his death, his son and another guy continued writing new series' of books? Something like that, and just from what I've picked up superficially, it is one of the most layered a complex fictional worlds I've ever heard about. It's genuinely insanely deep and complicated, and I understand you're just working off what frame of reference you have, but you should probably stop comparing it to Star Wars, because not only was Dune first, but at least as far as how intricate it is, Star Wars is for children in comparison, and there really isn't much in common between the two.
Which is why Dune hasn't previously ever been done right. It might be too much. They made an 80s movie, that some might like for a laugh or nostalgia, but David Lynch, who's already a super out there guy, doesn't even want his name attached to it, and according to Dune geeks, it wasn't accurate to the books, and kind of killed the potential for a while, of a serious Dune being made. Like I mentioned before, I tried watching it at some point when I was young, I may not have even watched the whole thing, but I remember just not understanding what was going on as someone that was new to Dune. It's probably only worth seeing for the novelty of it.
Then just after the turn of the millennium, the scifi channel did a couple mini series' of the first three Dune books, that I have seen now, and to my understanding, was accurate to the books, but just done on a basic cable budget, so just wasn't up to the standard of these, but if worth watching if you do want to learn more of the story.
These two movies together only make up just the first and original "Dune" book, and there's a new mini series that just came out called "Dune: Prophecy", which I think is supposed to be like a prequel that gives background to the Bene Gesserit. My understanding is that now Dune is getting the quality of treatment that real fans have always hoped for, but there were some choices made in the movies that were different from the books, but I don't know why, or how that will play out moving forward. So, there's five more books from just the original books, which could provide an unbelievable amount of content, depending on how it's done, but if you want to start thinking Dune, you have to understand that the Dune story line spans over like 15,000 years, and Paul Atreides is just a small piece of it. This isn't a light hearted Star Wars adventure where we're all going to have a fun time, and feel good about ourselves at the end. Again, I'm not the one to explain this effectively enough, but I'm just saying. As far as movies, I think these two movies were great, but as far as how long or successful they can be with actually making sense of the books in a way that can be properly communicated on screen, I don't know.
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Paul saw all the infinite choices of the future and they all led to Jihad, He chose the least worst(it still embroils the galaxy in a war that leaves 60 billion dead and hundreds of planets uninhabitable.
To do this, he had to take the emperor's daughter as queen.
Chani will be his concubine, as Jessica was Leto's. She will bear his children and be loved, while Irulan will never hear a kind word.
Yes. There is more.
“I just know there’s no Dune 3” 🤭
Wait 'til she gets a load of "Steve",... Wait that will be Alia.
I think your fans would enjoy your reaction to: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang 2005 Directed: Shane Black
Dune 1 and 2 was just the first book, there is at least 4 more books.
Dune is not a happy story, there might be short time victories but it is not one with a happy ending, ever.
The Fremen (nee FREEMEN) language was created by same guy that created Dothraki for Game of Thrones, I believe.
Zendaya is grating in this
Book Chani is deeply embedded in Fremen culture and spirituality - she accepts and understands the religious traditions of her people, including their belief in prophecies. Her anti-establishment, anti-religion sentiments, and her tantrums, are inserted into the movie, for presumably, 'modern audiences'
Next up, Dune: Messiah
The outside on the Harkonen planet is in black and white because they have a Black sun.
Coby needs to watch Andor
You were correct. Dune is a lot better than Star Wars. I call it Star Wars for adults.
Yes there will be a 3rd (and last) movie
There are like 16 books or something. They get really far out and strange but my understanding is they are just making the next book dune messiah. But you never know. Money talks so if it makes a killing at the box office who knows. Maybe they will do more. HBO has already made a mini series about the origins of the bene jesserit
The Harkkonen Sun is black so it changes the appearance.
Wow…..that was quick !
You should see the 1980s movie/mini series
Hi Coby hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
So funny you say that about the worms. Because I’ve felt that since the 1st trailer!! 😅 Ew lol
1:01:03 Do we love Paul tho? Do we tho?
Part one and Part two are the first book.
Much more to come......
Though the movies are better made than the 1984 and Syfy miniseries, I don't really like the story changes they made compared to those two
The Freman language is a mixture of Arabic, Persian (Farsi) & Pali. During the great space migration, when humans left Earth thousands of years ago to the point they do not recall the home world anymore. Many of the old Earth faiths merged like Buddhism & Islam into Buddhislam (Zensunni sect) The Fremen refer to Paul in the Arabic word Mahdi (Messiah). The sect Zensunni Wanderers are the direct ancestors of the Fremen. They would wander from planet to planet to avoid persecution until they settled on Arrakis. As the quote: "Arrakis tests the faithful." The Imperium of the Padishah Emperor Shadam IV is a realm of mergers of other Old Earth faiths and cultures along with Buddhislam with the Orange Catholic Bible. The Fremen see it as a corrupted interpretation. This leads to the Jihad by Paul Maud'Dib and the Freemen. The last holy war in the Dune universe was the Butlerian Jihad against Artificial Intelligent machines centuries ago. Humans became decadent and enslaved to the machines for basic functions. Hence, the intense religiousity during Paul Atredes time. The highest regard is to be a true human and not animal.
Dune lore is vast, It could go on for 10 more movies at the very least.
Paul pulls the (foot long) crysknife from his abdomen/stomach, without Feyd noticing while they are practically body to body, and stabs it into Feyd while they struggle over the knife in his shoulder. It's unclear editing and another pointless change to the book.
The book fight ends with Paul judo-flipping Feyd to avoid a poison barb in his belt and then killing him on the ground. I think it would have been much more cinematic.
The mother is willing to sacrifice millions to achieve victory, regardless of their suffering. Paul is hesitant to starve millions of people to death by taking over the spice and cutting of worlds that don't support him. The entire story is an ethical and religious dilemma. It's a warning about messianic figures, and the atrocities people commit to follow them.
Wow...she did not understand this story at all.
The vast majority of people who watch the movies and don't know the books don't understand the story at all. Even the people who read the first book when it was first released, didn't understand the story. That's why Dune Messiah was written, to point out, PAUL ISN'T THE GOOD GUY.
If you actually paid attention to both movies, you wouldn't be so off the rails regarding the point of the story and characters' motivations. And you wouldn't be missing the subtext.
Coby’s ability to breakdown story structure, character development, and encyclopedic actor recognition is by far my favorite part of this channel.
lol what. She was wrong, about literally everything, during both movies.
@@chand911I particularly don’t get how she was “trying to figure out what the big explosions were”… the nuclear explosions they spent several entire scenes explicitly explaining they were going to use at the start of the attack.
@@Dgm6630 what are u talking about, she didn’t even grasp the main point of the story lol
Be intresting to see if Coby understands that Paul is a villian/anti hero. Definitely no hero. I mean hell Herbert wanted people to be disgusted by Paul not see him as a hero.
Also whether you understand how arrogant and condescending your comment is, even after editing it.
@@Mistmantle88 time to get that refund from the charm school. which ever scotmaster gave you that std this month direct your anger towards them. It's not my fault you hate your own reflection.
Calling Paul a villain is misguided though. The entire Dune series attempts to answer the question of whether someone still has agency when they can see the future. Does pursuing the least damaging outcome justify your actions? Is the fate of all humanity worth the price of damnation? The Golden Path is a hard road, which Paul ultimately doesn't have the stomach for and only his son can bring to fruition.
He's not a villain, he is a hero. The point Frank Herbert was trying to make is that the reality of a hero is a terrible thing, and not to deify and empower people to become heroes. Because heroes are human, and all humans are flawed. Empowering them to subject their will on such a grand scale has terrible consequences
@@lachlanmarshall39 You're 100% totally wrong. Paul is a villain. He uses a fanatical religious sect to launch a crusade that kills untold billions of people. He doesn't do it for them. He does it for himself, and his own vendetta.
The Harkonnen are basically a plot device. They are the over the top, easily recognizable evil that anyone and everyone should know to resist. Paul is something else. He is the "Charismatic Leader" that leads people into doing unspeakable horrors.
You would probably agree that the Harkonnen are evil, yet, in the final moments of this movie, Paul starts something that is more evil, than anything the Harkonnen did in the entire history of their house.
This book series was only supposed to be a single book. People, like you, totally misunderstood the message, and so Herbert wrote a sequel called Dune Messiah. The third movie that they are doing is Dune Messiah. In it, Herbert's entire purpose was to point out that Paul did the worst thing in the history of the human race, ever, full stop, ever.
Star Wars is Dune but for children. When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things and watched Dune.
I'm a man, I like both. I could pick you up by your ankle and shake your lunch money out.
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a manchild, I acted like a tosser - krisbrown6692.
you sound goofy dude, Andor certainly isn't for children
I not happy i sad 😢
Does anybody else who watches Coby ever wonder if she reacts to watching content the same in her own time off camera? Or if she naturally tends to want to talk and ask questions while watching things with other people more now?