The Gorosei’s Final Opponents Solved
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
2:30 Saturn
3:34 The Gorosei Hierarchy
4:48 Warcury & Venusjuro
8:23 A Potential Traitor
10:13 Ju Peter & Mars - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Hey Morj did you notice that V.Nusjuro was welding a black blade?
Cause one of the panels seemed to show the blade being all black.
For the last time. Teach is the final antagonist. Imu and the Gorosei are just a stepping stone. Teach has all the build up and foreshadowing. How can you still think the WG is the final villain group after Auger hit us with the "The World" line. Teach will be the one to take over the WG and rule the world, where Luffy then has to defeat him to free the world.
I don't know if Dragon is going to fight one of the 5 elders. It seems unlikely, but we'll have to wait and see.
@@harlock1550 I agree. Besides, my personal preference would be for the pirates to get the final show, like a kind of battle royal among pirate.
Still Blackbeard has to be the final opponent in this. The way he seems to be doing his plans and holding Garp seems like he’s making him more relevant late game than Imu
One more hint that dragon will fight Topman is that last chapter all the gorosei did stuff but Topman stood there doing nothing, which is dragons signature move
💀💀💀
😂😂😂
Oda even hinted that two characters could battle by doing nothing with Raizo vs Fukurokuju 🔥🔥 Goda truly is the foreshadowing goat
😂😂😂
I screamed 😂😂😂😂
His name is literally TOP MAN, no way he isn't the strongest of the lot.
Maybe he's gay
and that's why we haven't even se him doing anythin during 1110! Oda is waiting for big boy chongus because it will be too fire to have in the same chapter as all the introductions!
Every circle is numbered tho, saturn is 5, topman 3, nusjuro 2 ju peter 1. Usually in manga that's based on their strength order
There is a part of me that thinks he is just the top man of justice and is going to do some crazy things. Also gives me monopoly and Kruschev vibes so I'm a lil suprised he isn't financial but I assume there is a reason.
he's top G....top Gororsei
no way i sat down for lunch thinking “morj prob didnt upload” then seeing he uploaded 1 sec ago 😂
The chosen one ☝️
Same boat bro, same boat.
That's how devil fruits get created in one piece😂 👒
Reading this comment from my lunch break 😂
thanks for manifesting this vid
As a sandworm, an animal who kinda moves unnoticed under the ground, makes sense if Ju Peter is the traitor/undercover. It’s also the only one whose form doesn’t really fit the demon theme.
so smart actually
super like ☝️☝️☝️☝️
One of the few who hesitated about Lulusia being destroyed
He also looks like the type of character to rebel or be the traitor.
he also swallowed luffy whole, I bet he didnt even intend to injure him and was gonna help luffy escape
I remember seeing a theory relating to Ju Peter. In Japanese (シェパード・十・ピーター聖) his name features what looks like a cross. Historically Saint Peter was crucified in Rome by Emperor Nero (known for his cruelty and sadism) on an upside down cross, as blame for starting a fire in Rome. It could tie into the belief that Ju Peter will betray (Nero)na Imu in some way in the story.
nah thats a good connection fr this might happen
u cooked
but he might be blaned for the incident
Been seeing multiple One Piece theories based off of Roman history lately. Other than the Dressrosa colosseum, does the series have any other references to it before?
I really hope that Kuma will reject his pain and Spirit Bomb the Gorosei.
I actually watched the ad this time out of respect for how you introduced it lmao
Same it was the funniest ad
Morj ads are hilarious and genuine
That Brachiosauruses and worms are comparable in One Piece is really something.
I think he was more so comparing when Queen detach his arms/legs and became a snake essential. Also wyrm, wingless, appendageless dragon
The video transponder snail in the Gorosei’s room in the latest chapter was modeled after Warcury. That’s another example of Oda giving him a bit more emphasis than the rest
Mars vs sanji will be interesting a bird vs a sky Walker.
Oda should make it happen
12:08 KID MENTIONED! LETS FUCKING GOOOOO!!!!
Jika will arise
Summoning circles were numbered from 1-5 in the last chapter
Sandworm supremacy
How the fuck did you notice that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wanted to bring this up too since it doesn't match what Morj noted on rank.
Yup but morj is convinced by the order of the planets away from the sun is the scaling oda is using and is using super sentai logic to powerscale warcury even tho oda gave us the pentagram numbers to go off of
@@thedude-nf1uf Indeed. Calling the sandworm lamer than the bird is heinous. Also he's the elder in charge of Agriculture which lines up with sanji pretty well.
I also really want sanji to have a big 1v1 battle, preferably sky battle
Yeah oda should do it otherwise he will let me down because we want sanji to have a cool fight
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If there is going to be a traitor Gorosei, it's definitely Ju Peter. Based on the positioning of the Doflamingo / Imu panels, Ju Peter occupies the same position as Corazon would, if he were to have been in the picture (based on the positions of the swords in both panels).
Additionally, Ju Peter is the only Gorosei that have questioned the World Government at any point. During Wano he questioned why the WG felt the need to hide the real name of the Gum-Gum Fruit. He was also the one who questioned Imu as to why they selected Lulusia.
Finally the most important part that I believe to be the key to the puzzle lies in real life Christian theology. Saint Shepherd Ju Peter is named after Saint Peter. Assuming that Ivankov was right when speculating about Imu's identity, they would be Saint Nerona Imu. This namessake most likely is a reference to the real life Emperor Nero.
And it just so happened that it's said that Emperor Nero killed Saint Peter by method of cruxification. The precedent for cruxification as a method of punishing Celestial Dragons has already been set with Figarland Garling killing Mjosgard in this way.
Solid analysis
to add onto this, the first portion of Ju Peter's name is represented by the kanji for the number "ten" (十), which is also used in the word "cross" (十字架, jūjika), not to mention that the character looks like a cross, this is from the wiki btw. Keep in mind japanese allows for many other characters that would produce the sound "Ju" so oda chose to use this specific character.
Warcury is self proclaimed god who transforms into a fire boar known in mythology for destorying towns. Kozuki Oden defeated a large boar that was considered a god who was destroying a town. There is a straw hat who wants to follow directly in Oden's footsteps too, though one who hasn't joined just yet; Yamato.
I get that Dragon should have a win, but I think they've established the God's Knights as the threat the Revolutionary Army are working around so they'll probably be the army on army fight with Dragon taking out Garling.
As for Ju Peter, he is such an obvious matchup for Jimbei it hurts. It's Earth vs Sea, it's the character most likely to push a Strawhat off the red line vs the one who can survive it and then climb back up it again like Fisher Tiger.
Sick idea
In the bird goroseis yokai storyline they're in a story of a bowman who shoots it down and becomes a famous warrior...like ussop 👀👀👀
Usopp is gonna be dead at this point...
the goat
1:18: “Now you might be saying, Morj your looking really good”
Me: that’s not the only thing I’m saying.
simp
Idk if you saw but, the Summoning Circles have numbers on them. We already know that Saturns in No.5. In chapter 1110 on the first double spread we can see that Mars Circle is No.4 and we can kinda make out a No.3 on the circle next to his which is Warcury's. Following that pattern, V. Nusjuro would be No.2 (which you can also make out the pattern 2 for the circle next to Warcury), and Ju Peter would be No.1 following that logic.
Was just a cool tidbit, I thought I'd mention because I didn't see you mention it in the vid. I also think Artur mention what I was talking about in one of his latest videos.
Morj is a casual, he didn’t know that. It invalidates his entire video 😂 Ju Peter is the strongest
@@fullydiminished Also if you look at the order in which we see them for important moments like they're introduction or they're name reveals. It follows that same order if you count from 5 being Saturn. It's always 5 = Saturn, 4 = Mars, 3 = Warcury, 2 = V. Nusjuro, 1 = Ju Peter.
Morj mentioned the numbers on his stream. Personally I also think that Warcury is the strongest but other options would be interesting as well. Like Ju Peter, the seemingly youngest of the gorosei being the oldest/strongest.
It could be more like that the numbers indicate the level of strength in a different way (ie: the middle number, 3 being the strongest while there is decreasing strength as we move to the left and right of 3, kind of like a horizontal scale with the middle, which is 3, being the most intense). So this might indicate that Saturn and Jupiter have the same level of strength, Mars and Venus are equals but stronger than Jupiter and Saturn while Mercury is the strongest of them all.
The tension I felt was between Warcury and Akainu. Akainu will most likely fight him. I do not think Dragon will fight one of the Gorosei. Either he will help against Imu or he will take care of the God's Knights with the Revolutionary Army.
7:50 you know
fact that garp referred to dragon as a "revolutionary" instead of "terrorist" like the world government frames him
Is very interesting
It's not really surprising, though. Garp clearly cares about his son and grandkids, and Garp literally refused to be an admiral bc he despises the CDs. So even though he disagrees with Dragon's methods, he probably views Dragon as a misguided but noble and good-hearted person in the same way he views Ace and Luffy. It'd be out of character if he called Dragon a terrorist tbh
@@what7530
Exactly
@what7530
I agree with everything you said. Which is why it's interesting.
But here me out
This is one of garps initial characterizations
It's out of character for him to refer to dragin as a revolutionary
But this is us understanding garp retroactively
It's still crazy interesting in world
I imagine garp would still phrase dragon as a revolutionary infront of new marine recruits instead of straight up
Terrorist
Which is how they know dragon as.
Even oldie tome marines might be agitated he continues to call dragon a revolutionary.
9:57 i think its mars based soley on the fact that he looks like he'd be nice 😭
Maaaaan I’d love to see a team up attack of Luffy, Bonny, Kuma, Kizaru, and maybe Sentamaru all team up to finish Saturn this arc. I think you’re 100% right where Saturn is the main bad of Egghead, all of his themes as well as the characters he’s connected to are all in this arc. The truth of the world being revealed, one of the elders dying, and an admiral defecting would make one hell of an “egghead incident”.
Ussop defeats the worm guy, he always fights the enemies that can go underground.
I think Usopp will die in Elbaf.
Usopp's desire is to have courage, and he's too far behind in the power scale to have any hope against anyone. So I'm thinking he'll go down like a Kamikaze in Elbaf, and the Giants will make a monumental tomb for him: Luffy leaves his straw hat on Usopp's grave, fitting how Shanks gave the hat to him and Shanks is connected to Elbaf.
If anybody is going to be a traitor its going to be mars
Saturns yokai, the ushi oni, is cruel & savage, bringing disease, which correlates with saturns character of being cruel to Kuma & bringing the sapphire scales to Ginny & Bonney
If their yokai's all corrolate to their character then Mars is the odd one out
The itsumade, Mars' yokai, isnt cruel like the gorosei are portrayed,
The itsumade will appear in places that many people have died, asking in a terrible voice "itsumade?" Translating to "until when?" Which is said to be asking how long the suffering will go unnoticed.
Also a interesting fight for Sanji could also be JuPeter, as seen Jupeter is a worm, tunneling underground, Sanji has observation haki but weve only seen that once so an observation haki boost for Sanji could be earned from that fight
That's still pretty cruel, psychologically, kinda like beating someone while they're down
Great video Morj, I wanted tto note this since this is the second video you've released stating that Doflamingo had/wanted 5 seats. Having recently just refinished Dressrosa (what a ride that was) I wanted to remind you, as it may have been some time since you've touched on the arc... Doflamingo had 4 seats. Vergo was the 1st "Corazon" up until he infiltrated the Marines for his covert mission. Rosinante became the 2nd "Corazon" 14 years after Doflamingo had taken on piracy as his method to bring down the world. (Doflamingo wanted Law to replace Rosinante as the 3rd "Corazon".) Vergo maintained his status as an "elite/chief officer" and a key member to their operation, but he did not continue to hold a seat, as there were only 4 seats leading the hierarchy.
I bring this up, because if the main idea that Imu will be betrayed by a subordinate is prompted by the parallels with Doflamingo, that may be a discrepancy that makes it less likely to occur. This was in no way a "call-out" or "I know One Piece better than you", just something I noticed with the arc fresh in my mind. Thanks for another fascinating upload!
I feel like there could be a potential case where Luffy is the one fighting warcury and Dragon is fighting Imu. I think it would be cool to see a case where Luffy beats Warcury and the first interaction between him and Dragon is luffy teaming up with him to fight Imu
True , Dragon has to fight Imu at some point i feel like , whether he loses or teams up with Luffy
Holy knight makes more sense for revolutionary army...there is no way Luffy isn't fighting final villain of the series
Given how Onigashima went I would also speculate that the rest of the straw hats require some matchup as well in that conflict. My major guesses would be for the Seraphim, but this conflict could be a 3 fold.
Imu/Gorosei/Seraphim vs. Blackbeard Pirates vs. Straw Hats/Revolutionaries
If the final conflict is a 3-way battle, the surprise fighter makes a lot more sense as BB.
In general, the end of one piece is going to be insane and I love it
If Zoro is to fight Venusjoro, I think it will be AFTER he’s defeated Mihawk and has become the World’s Strongest Swordsman. With him taking down Ethan Baron being the first thing he does with his newly claimed title.
Not a chance.
Most likely
tbh I feel like in the final battle zoro would be more likely to fight garling, and brook fights nosjuro. I think the straw hats would power creep pretty heavy before we get this fight
Yea definitely, he should defeat Mihawk before or around the same time Luffy becomes pk, which we know wont be at the end of the story. Not just because Mihawk is tied to Buggy who is in the pk race but because Zoro has said before that to be worthy to be the right hand of the pirate king he needs to become the worlds greatest swordsman. About the Garling fight he doesnt rly have dynamics to anyone yet so it can be anyone like Zoro, Shanks, Dragon or even BB or Garp.
Mihawk would clap all the gorosei combined, neg diff.
If a Gorosei were to rebel, I’d assume Ju Peter. He always seems to be the most skeptical or silent on WG plans and one time during the Lelusha incident I believe he directly questioned the others slightly. Also when Imu sat on the empty throne, Ju Peter and Nesjuro were the only ones not to speak to imu and ask what island to destroy next. Ju is also seemingly the youngest of the group so maybe he isn’t as vicious on order or filled the spot in the gorosei from another who died or left previous.
Think you hit the nail on the head with the Mercury vs Dragon matchup. Thematically, the Godhead of Justice facing off against the leader of the revolutionary group that directly opposes that brand of justice makes sense. Akainu is a dark horse contender for Mercury as well because as Fleet Admiral, Akainu is basically the public face for Justice in One Piece. With the truth being exposed to the world, it would be interesting to see Akainu and Mercury fight as well, although I think I prefer Mercury vs Dragon more.
I predict:
Mercury vs Dragon
V.Nusjuro vs Zoro + a potential clash with Brook
Mars vs Sanji
Jupiter vs Kuzan
Saturn vs Luffy
The reason why I say Jupiter vs Kuzan is because Jupiter is the one who gave the order to kill Clover to prevent him from saying the name of the ancient kingdom which eventually lead to the buster call. Given Kuzan's ties with Robin and Saul, I think it would be interesting to have Kuzan and Jupiter fight against eachother.
"giant beard"
If you look closely we see the numbers one the circles, Mars was number 4, mercury was number 3, Venus number 2, Jupiter number 1, mercury is also not always in the middle , in the Throne room with Sabo he wasn’t, and the reason he’s in the middle so much is cause he’s number 3
A Courtney Ryan and Morj Collab was not on my 2024 bingo card. What is going on.
Survive for 10 minutes? Not so fast. In ten minutes Vegapunk will start a whole conference talk with power point, illustrations, mathematical proofs and a second coffee break like on every science conference. So they need to survive for one hour :P
It’s Morjin time another classic Mr.Morj banger 😍😍
Morj sucks
My man really went and invented planetscaling
Mars and Venus are the earths(Imus) right and left hand. Thats why I believe that Sanji will fight Mars
3:15 "Some degree of conflict between Saturn and Luffy" -> Luffy: "👀👀👀👀 😤"
And people say Gear 5 didn't ruin Luffy's ability to bring tension to important high-stakes fights. In the past Luffy would definitely goof off early on in the fight, like the teeth gags with Arlong, or Water Luffy vs Crocodile, but he ALWAYS got serious when it mattered as the fight built up. Everyone said serious Luffy was back after the single panel where Luffy finally frowned for a microsecond before smiling again on the same page, but now they're backpedaling as fast as they can.
Luffy is actually serious with Saturn here
I think Law will fight imu with luffy dying saving luffy with the eternal youth surgery and Luffy will defeat imu. This would be epic and a callback of the onigashima raid when Law said that he won't let anyone die
You are spot on with the dragon thing! When we analyse the structure of previous arcs with a rebellion story line which probably is intended foreshadowing (Skypiea, Dress Rosa) normally the rebellion leader or leader of the “good guys” gets a fight with one of the commander (Viper, the Soldier dad of the princess) as does Luffy with the number 4 or 5 of the crew (Blueno, Cracker, maybe even the sea cow hahaha). Of course this is a structural argument and Oda can break it as he wishes but yeah it sounds solid for me
6:39 - "It does seem to be *lining up* so far"
I appreciate the attempt, Morj
I always love the videos! Akainu vs Jupiter would be so HYPE!!!
you're going for that tanned Shank's look lmaoo
Imagine if Ju Peter actually just freakin died last chapter 😭
It makes sense that Sanji the 3rd strongest SH would fight the 3rd strongest Gorosei (Mars)
Hmm the panel where the other 4 Gorosei was arriving on Egghead and materializing on the circle, from right to left direction, the circle with number 1 in it wasn't visible to us alongside Ju Peter's body, so it might mean that he is the #1 in the order. Maybe it also tells us why he was the one who had the authority or hierarcy to speak, asked to cut the communication and tell the officers to forget about Lulusia.
Im still intrigued on the idea of Mars being related to the Gan Fall in some way, During Skypiea there were some moments where he kinda mentioned how awful humans can be, and having a ¨young¨ Gorosei makes me think Gan Fall was banished for betraying Imu making Mars the next Traitor
9:59 Something I find worth to mention: When Sabo infiltrated the throne room in chapter 1085, when the Gorosei and Imu transformed, we only got teased the DF forms of Imu themselves and only 4 of the Gorosei, being Warcury, Mars, Nusjuro, Saturn. It may have only been a perspective thing, but we never got to see Ju Peter doing anything when Sabo was carrying Cobra out of the throne room. That whole sequence was 4 pages long yet none of the panels on any of those pages had Ju Peter. Not really sure how much this adds onto that whole traitor theory, but I still think it should be brought up.
Kid defeats a Gorosei is the next Raid Fails
If there is betrayal amongst the Gorosei, I think it would be Ju Peter. He transforms into a sandworm that may play a role in destroying the Red Line. Mars might just be a Sanji opponent being a giant bird, and Sanji is the only one of the crew that can fly. That's assuming the gorosei fights aren't paired fights (i.e. Zoro and Brook vs V. nusjuro due to the heavy theme of death and both being swordsmen). The other oddity I've come across is if Ju Peter is a sandworm and not a traitor, would the proper place for him to battle be Alabasta being the sand island and heavy links to Imu/Void Century?
As always great video... regarding your theory of one of the gorosei rebelling, if that happens to be the case, i'd say its Mars. As evil as they are, when he gave the order to destroy Ohara you could clearly see Mars havin some kind of guilt when he said Ohara knew too much. So that might be hint of him not being okay with following Imu's reign
If Zorros fighting a gorosei then Sanji most definitely will. He wouldn’t allow “shitty swordsman” to one up him
That's idiotic ... Sanji will obviously stay and protect Nami and the crew. Unless Mars flys over and attacks Sanji/strawhats/the sunny, he won't fight a Gorosei on egghead. Maybe in the future.
@@GourSmith it’s not the first time he did something that idiotic. Plus he’s done it before, why wouldn’t he do it again
@@Theunloved1738 I meant *YOU'RE* idiotic for thinking Sanji would leave Nami, Robin and the crew when they're literally trying to escape and have been for at least a dozen chapters now. Sanji will keep the girls safe. He's not leaving them. If mar flys over, that's the only possibility of him fighting a Gorosei on egghead. In the future, I'm sure he may eventually fight a Gorosei. But he's not leaving the weaker crew members and disobeying Luffy when the whole point is to escape.
@@GourSmith
Who said anything about egghead ? this is about final matchups in general in egghead the gorosie wouldn’t be defeated so Sanji will obviously fight a gorosie later on if you think sanji would never fight a gorosie that’s idiotic
@@Mohamad_49Gs Did you not read the comment thread? I literally said “Sanji wouldn’t leave the girls unprotected to go defy orders and join a fight they’re trying to escape from” … then he responded with “Wouldn’t be the first time Sanji did something stupid” … I can only assume English isn’t your first language.
They are clearly numbered and not in planetary order tho. Each summonning circle is numbered, and they have always appeared in the same position from left to right, wich is the same order represented by their summoning circles.
People keep saying 10 minutes but after 10min is when Vegapunk's message STARTS so, if we wanna hear the whole thing they have to keep it protected for until he's finished
If you look closely at the panel where the gorosei are in shadow form in chapter 1110 Marcus has a 4 around him
You can also faintly see a 3 on Warcury and a 2 from V Nesjuro
yeah... artur pointed this out a few days ago on his channel
What are the numbers for each one ?
@@tiagoveiga1140
Saturn 5
Mars 4
Warcury 3
V Nesjuro 2
Ju Peter 1
the one issue with the order you have is that the numbers on the teleportation circles don't seem to line up
Yeah, I’m wondering if Morj either forgot, ignored it, or started recording for this video before the newest chapter.
Exactly, they're lined up according to the order we saw them in their first introduction from Right to Left.
5. Saturn
4. Mars
3. Warcury
2. V Nesjuro
1. Ju Peter
@@ReiseLukas Ju Peter being 1 is throwing me off, either he's 1 cuz he's the youngest looking or something else cuz there's no way he's the strongest 😭
@@sujal1548 ik his worm form looks goofy but his base form looks the most intimidating than any of the gorosei, the rest literally look like old heads...so it makes sense for him to be the strongest and his hybrid form might end up looking badass after all, who knows 🤷
@@karasukill6418 Me personally, I always thought Ethan was the most intimidating looking. Saturn was a close second because his beard and dreadlocks gave him that aura lol.
I agree with your matchups for Mercury, Venus, and Saturn. As much as I’d want Sanji to fight Mars, I believe he will end up fighting Jupiter as he is the God of agriculture and that thematically fits Sanji more. I see either Law or Kid fighting Mars, and Sabo will fight Akainu.
Fk thematically this theme is so thin it doesn’t matter sanji should get an awesome aerial fight and oda is a fraud if he doesn’t do that he’s robbing Sanji of all the awesome fights that he deserves
And sabo will never fight akainu akainu is a Luffy opponent and should be a Luffy opponent
Sabo vs akainu makes zero sense
I've thought about the same ordering before and some matchups makes sense based on fighting themes after last chapter for 2-4.
V. Nusjuro and Zoro - swordsmen
Mars and Sanji - battle of the sky
Ju Peter and Jinbe - battle of the land vs sea
It maintains the ordering of the crew and makes sense. Warcury is the hardest one for me to think about but Dragon makes sense due to the theme of war. Dragon was noted to hate war and I think it makes sense for the man named Warcury to go against.
However, Sabo seems to be the better option imo. It makes sense for the flame emperor who could be seen as another weaker symbol of the sun, as well as a person who is brothers with the sun god to go up against the closest planet in Warcury. The theme could be a conflict of the sun(Not sure how to word this better). The gorosei are planets gravitating around imu but sabo and luffys crew gravitate towards luffy. A fight to see who is following the right sun.
Marcus Mars may be the defector if theres a gorosei traitor at all based on the itsumade lore dealing with lamentations or regret of the dead waiting for vengence or justice. Mars is always standing with his hands in his pockets(sus) and gets the least amount of dialouge out of the 5.
The end game gorosei matchups may be
Jimbei vs Warcury(the knight of the sea vs the rain diety)
Sanji vs Mars/Saturn(depends on if saturn dies or if Mars defects, whichever happens first sanji will fight the other)
Zoro vs Nasujuro(self explanatory)
Dragon vs Ju Peter, (its a dragon vs dragon fight, would be cool to see a sandstorm fight too)
Morj is gonna have to carry the next few weeks with the month break we have after 1111.
Based on recent spoiler,
1. Saturn Vs Nami and Usoff.
- Saturn Climbed up at the top of egg head island, where nami and usoff waiting for other strawhat to come.
I think the final fight of saturn is not from luffy it is nami and usoff vs Saturn,
2. Mercury Vs Luffy
And at the bottom, Mercury is there to fight luffy and the two giants.
3. Jupiter Vs 2 Giant or 1 strawhat.
Jupiter is with mercury also but his opponent is the two giant.
4. Venus Vs Sanji and Brook , sanji is near to Bonney, Not sure if Sanji is the Final opponent of Venus
5. Mars Vs Unknown Character, or Vs Zoro and Jimbei, cause both of them still in control room of vega punk.
Yeah correct
Sanji vs mars is more likely I heard theory about mars having fire type abilities
Mars betrayal of imu i think make more sense because he is the one who probably pass throw the barrier and let the message play
The summoning circles of the Gorosei have numbers on them. Saturn had a very clear to see 5, but the others have numbers too, just hard to see.
Mars has 4, Warcury has 3, Nusjuro has 2, and Peter's is not shown, likely making it 1 (unless it's 6 and say Imu would be 1).
This is, notably, different from the planet order.
I used to have Sanji fighting Ju peter but now looking at the gorosei zoans forms I definitely got Sanji fighting Mars because it will be a cool aerial flame battle.
None of the gorosei are defecting, and none of the strawhats are fighting any gorosei as their final matchup
Also find it funny that the planet Saturn is the one that most resembles the Straw Hat with it's ring
I really like your narrative
mars looks like the knight of skypea
Morj, I need compilation of the theories, U were on mark...
The magic circles upon closer look seem to have different number for different gorosei with ju peter being 1, I think Artur pointed it out as well. But could this mean he's a first or that he's the strongest?
I think Mars is more likely due to him being the one who showed guilt for Ohara. Peter seems more villainous and a Sanji opponent
I think it would be interesting to see the Revolutionary Commanders to fight Ju Peter. Morley moving the ground big worm is digging through, Ju Peter also probably has some sand-based abilities which Karasu's Soot could probably counter, Lindbergh whipping out some funky new invention with Bello Betty giving everyone buffs.
I appreciate that the thumbnail has dragon looking east🗿🗿
I think I’ve heard theories that people believe Ju Peter will be the traitor, as he is the youngest of the 5. I think him being a worm (which can mean a dishonorable person) further proves this because it is very similar to a snake body wise. And a snake is someone who is a traitor.
Wargod of Justice being the strongest makes sense, 'Justice' is everything for the Marines. Also I don't think the numbers are their power rankings, that sounds stupid. Order of creation maybe, but just numbering their power in the summoning circle sounds so awkward
Before that. I predict with the upcoming long break, Oda will in usual fashion give us a huge lore/cliff to dwell and theorize about in the mean time. I think this is going to be almost certainly the Vegapunk Announcement
morj you looking fucking fire my dude
bird is sometimes symbol of freedom so we can guess Jupiter
Law vs Ju Peter makes sense because the gem associated with Jupiter is amber and law previously contracted amber lead syndrome as a kid
Kid & Law team up to take down Ju Peter 😂😂
As a long time Kid Pirate, I hope my Captain gets his day
Considering all the other gorosei are straight up yokai while Ju Peter is a sci-fi monster he might be the odd one out if there has to be a betrayer
I think kid might likely have a match against figarland as a sort revenge match against shank's realtive
You should look at the Divine Comedy's Celestial Spheres for hierarchy as that is what the Gorosei are based on, not on the planets.
I think it's possible Jupiter might be a traitor because of the fact that his Zoan doesn't match the theme of the rest, as well as the fact that he very literally embodies a Zoan that is an insect, which the gorosei sort of constantly use as an insult.
sanji fighting mars makes sense I think, i mean mars is the bird, sanji can borderline fly, and hes like no 3 in the strawhats
the numbers for the Elders we given last chapter. Peter is 1 Ethan 2 and so on
I think there will be 7 goresei. Yes i know it means 5 but i think the female servant with imu will be someone strong n garling will become a goresei. Earth n moon.
Brook also fights venus
@morj did you notice that all the gorosei left the holy land, and they will have to travel back by boat to get back, and Blackbeard crew literally have a way to get to the holy land with katerina and there will be no gorosei there to spot the fack.
Kinda like what they did with going to the prison when no one was there
I could see Jinbe fighting a Gorosei member, possibly Walcury since they are both strong on Justice.
Just seems like based on this arc alone. Kuma finishing off himself and Saturn is poetic and needed
I think that it would make sense for Sanji to fight the Godhead of Agriculture
Based on the numbers on the summoning circles and the order their 'forms' are introduced this chapter, it appears that from 5-1 its:
Saturn
Mars
Warcury
V. Nusjuro
Ju Peter
I'm a believing in the theory that they all have had the eternal youth surgery done in the order of most importance to Imu. Ju Peter is #1 and looks the youngest and the difference in their ages is the time it took for the fruit to reincarnate and be used.
I think throwing Koby in the mix for a gorosei matchup would be possible. He could use a “hero of the marines” moment and I think he could have a fight against akainu but Sabo seems more likely to defeat akainu. If Koby does fight an admiral then I think it would be kuzan.
I’d throw Jimbe in there it would be a fish vs worm fight lol kind of like how jimbe fought who’s who was a cat vs a fish
it would be cool to see a showdown between venus and brook due to them being both skeletons with fast icy swordsmanship
Gorosei vid already? Speed!