Depression Is Rampant In Revachol - Therapist Plays Disco Elysium: Part 16
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Hey everyone, trying something different with the stream chat this time. If it does end up being too hard to follow without it visible let me know, we'll bring it back for the next stream. Episode 17 is already available through the patreon archive if you want to support the show, just check the description.
You're doing great man and consider following the road south, past the pawn shop, and keep going. Keep up the great streams!
I can't help but laugh because this seems like a very therapist-brained solution to the comments about chat.
"if you can't change the situation that's causing you distress, then have you tried distancing yourself instead?" (turns chat off)
I (an engineer) would have taken a far more technical approach, but if this works it works, right?
What I noticed is when your eyes glanced towards chat, I started glancing towards where the chat window used to be.
"Can I have some salami?"
"Sure, here you go."
Biggest plot twist so far.
Nicest npc no dif
1:26:39 this reminds me of a text post in Tumblr where OP said it's interesting how with the divide in people's perspective with Revachol you can tell people from first world country finds Revachol tragic and hopeless, whereas people from third world countries sees how Disco Elysium 'romanticized' (there's probably a better wording for this) and just, seeing the beauty in small and mundane things in third world country living conditions.
When you live in a place like Revachol, you're desensitized with your surrounds and sees this as your normal, your default. Disco Elysium does a good job showing that, and yet at the same time showing that even in places like Revachol, you can still find a sense of hope in small things, and even the impossible.
1:02:25 Disco Elysium is a pretty good representation of what living in a post-soviet small-city Eastern Europe feels like. The devs and writers based it a lot on Estonia, but it applies to small-city eastern Poland, Lithuania, Latvia etc...
1:14:40 true as hell. I've been depressed for around 8 years, I got out of it about 3 years ago, still working on all that it poisoned. Work ethics, attitude toward relationships, self-esteem, substances... life's good and all the little successes fill me with happiness but damn it's a lot of work to repair it all.
lmao poor kim getting absolutely BEAMED with light every time Brady moves his mouse in the library
"Lets say a job is the source of depression" *desribes my life in detail except i'm only at the start of doom spiral*
fugg.
Running around screaming "I need money!" with the plastic tare collecting bag sitting in the inventory was just a tiny bit painful lol
That bag is bait. You would get petty pennies with it. It can help, but boy is it a pittance.
@garr_inc there's basically zero opportunity cost for using the bag if one of your hands is empty anyway, so idk how that would qualify as "bait" if it's not impeding you at all. It doesn't use up time and it doesn't hurt your stats. Each bottle might be low value individually, but it adds up. 0.10 is still > 0.00. That's some walking around $$$ get you some nosaphed
@@severallemmingsI can see both points, it's not bait so much as it's essentially an immersion mechanic essentially, I completely ignored this feature and I got along just fine.
@@mistermelancholy7698 It's good if you want to unlock hobo cop as early as possible or care greatly about the cleanliness of streets. :P
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I had no idea you can give the lorry keys to Cuno. This game constantly surprises me even now
It kinda defeats his position of not giving him drugs. That lorry is carrying drugs.
It’s a city defeated, defeated again, and then defeated once more, and left to stay defeated, with the illusion of crawling to its feet.
La revacholiere is a sad nation, but one that loves those under her nevertheless.
un jour je serai de retour près de toi
Your final thoughts at the end kind of sum up part of why I’m a socialist.
We can build a better world. We can feed and house everyone. We can provide for everyone. And imagine the potential for peoples lives if they never had to worry about going hungry or being left in the gutter.
I think Brady‘s closing thoughts sum up the shortcomings of socialism. You CAN’T spend and build your way into making a better world. These problems are moral and philosophical and psychological. Look what happens to lottery winners, if money could fix the problems of these people. They wouldn’t spend through it all as fast as they do. There is not enough money on the planet even with all the billionaires in the world to reach real equity in any meaningful lasting sense, reducing these problems to social planning will not do the job.
I think Brady‘s closing thoughts sum up the shortcomings of socialism. You CAN’T spend and build your way into making a better world. These problems are moral and philosophical and psychological. Look what happens to lottery winners, if money could fix the problems of these people. They wouldn’t spend through it all as fast as they do. There is not enough money on the planet even with all the billionaires in the world to reach real equity in any meaningful lasting sense, reducing these problems to social planning will not do the job.
Hell yeah friend. Keep fightin' the good fight. We can, but only in the shell of the old.
That is the problem with socialism.
*Who* is "we"?
I can't do any of that, and no one here did any of that. They just said they *will* do it (eventually), and just like that, I lived 20 years under socialism. Only to live in a country with millions upon millions in debt, ruled till just a few months by a literal wife-beater that got into power while calling himself "the feminist presidente".
Socialism doesn't work, because the money, patience and blood of those that provide this "free" stuff to the rest doesn't come from some infinite magic-bag.
Atte: an Argentinian living on 100 and something dollars per month thanks to yeh good old _not_real_socialism_.jpeg
41:29 - Oh, you want to help Roy? How about you STOP FLASHING YOUR FLASHLIGHT IN HIS FACE everytime you roll in? 😂😂
I remember my dad making me play Max Payne when i was a child. I was scared and traumatized at first. But then became engrossed with the gameplay and enamoured with the prose and the comic panels.
This is where i learnt about grief and loss. And bullettime.
Holy shit, Deltora Quest. You just unlocked a whole trove of childhood memories, sitting on the library floor devouring those books.
Edit: and everything else that comes up after it, too. Redwall and Narnia and all.
Deltora quest was a vibe... lots of maguffins tho... dude had to collect lik 7 gems and a belt... and then he had to go back and kill 4 dragons... bro was all over the place.
I've never been big on Let's plays save for very few over the years. At most I might check out what someone thought of a specific part or scene of a game I finished. Disco Elysium is an exception as I keep coming back to see how people experience it for the first time and while many playthroughs are insightful this stands high above the rest. You've paced it superbly, focus on the game and don't go off on an irrelevant tangents. I've greatly enjoyed and found the additional videos helpful as well, so kudos to ya! :D It's also surprising since I find it off-putting whenever I read a video title of "certain certified authority figure plays/reacts/does something." Makes me extremely suspicious of their credentials.
The underlying depression and the feel of this fictional city is something probably the most coming from Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland or Belarus get innately as they share the history of having been oppressed for centuries by their neighbors from east and west. Having lived in some and traveled through each one of those countries DE makes me proud. Heck, even Revachol name was taken from Estonia's capital Tallinn's old historical name "Reval." As such I'm glad you're playing a build which has the potential for Shivers ability to active naturally without having to go through some hoops to get it working. You may later get to a missable scene by following it, which is one of the best in the game (I don't think anyone would disagree) and a pivotal moment in itself, so please do yourself a favor and save scum the hell out of it even if you otherwise avoided doing so.
Glad to see you back to the best playthrough on yt. Missed this game and your analysis.
I think I prefer the version of the video without twitch comments. While I don't think they are always negatively distracting, there are definitely times where mini arguments happen due to opinions about backseating, and that has the potential to detract from the video.
Having been in both streams and watched on TH-cam ( my timezone difference means I usually don't catch streams) I can say the mods have really clamped down on chat. Conversation is okay but if it gets a bit backseaty they quickly step in and I think that's a good thing, even as someone that can get a bit overexcited.
I actually got timed out at one point because I hypothesised something that comically I was COMPLETELY wrong about. I think a good balance has been struck between banter and engagement and not spoilering or backseating
Would love to see a therapist tackle the 2023 Layers of Fear Collection.
"I'm trying to find some money to help a young sad boy who doesn't know he's sad because he's to busy feeling angry at the world."
Are we talking about Cuno or Harry? 🤔
So many people hate Cuno or find him annoying, but his story reminds me of so many kids I knew growing up, that he just makes me sad. Watching you try to help him is nice. Crazy, but nice. Good luck.
Absolutely agree on books! I used to love a series called "Bloody Jack" about an orphan in london who runs off to join the navy and eventually becomes a pirate. It was definitely adult-ish but also was from a pretty childish perspective. The character grew up as you read (and the writing style changed to suit it) and it absolutely was a formative series for me. Redwall was another
Little comment in when you read the choices that i heard you might find interesting.
Someone on another abalysis of DE talked about how Harry is his own character and the dialogue options might not juat be player choices but LITERALLY the conflicting thoughts that pop into the characters head.
Funnily enough the regular law official thought you got mentions that you consistently get a 'mix of thoughts of communist, fascist and ultraliberal thoughts'
So unlike other RPGs there is a reading of the game that he really is a confused and conflicted man who is still developing his understanding of the world.
I kind of thought about this whilst you were discussing the Hjelmdall book. The 'all women are devils' choice. Hes choosing whether to allow himself to dive into misogyny or look for understanding in this reading i would say
Wow, very good analysis and perspective in that monologue at the end! I sincerely hope you stick with this game to the end.
53:00 if you ring Plaisance’s doorbell before you’ve met her but after you’ve met Cuno, the game lets you pretend to be Cuno to Plaisance over the intercom.
The analysis of depression was so true and painful that I had to pause a few times to finish (not a complaint-I really enjoyed it). To me, depression is like a deep wound that doesn’t hurt anymore, but I can never ignore. I often say I’m almost symptom-free and having a good and smooth life, but that scar is always there to remind me sth. It’s changed me completely, like my social conducts, habits and charaters, and these changes will stay with me for life.
Also you mentioned if solving the murder would really help the town (or you answered that in later episodes?I'm a slow viewer😅) For me I would say that Harry’s two days of self-exploration and self-redemption might be the town’s best hope. Whether or not he solves the case, he’s already made a difference. I'd related to a somewhat imperfect example of my own. When I had to gap from college due to depression, I felt lost all day. But oneday I noticed my parents, who never read, never understood what depression is or why it would happen to their child, had secretly bought books on depression, placed them on the bedside table. I won't say the books made a big change, they might still said things like ‘ maybe you need to be stronger,’ but instead of being offended, I knew their intentions were good, they're trying to help me. I mean, sometimes it’s really hard to make direct and effective changes, but it’s still cool to see some difference, even if it’s small or not directly related to the root of the depression. Like Annette, when her mom let her inside, she probably felt a spark of hope. Even if her mom still didn't know how to treat her daughter properly, and most of situations Annette in didn’t change, there’s a sense that change is possible. So I would say Harry (played by you) is doing his best to save this town in these two days. Or like Cuno, when I was playing, I also wanted to save him. But mostly I wanted to spend a good day with him-as his pig.
Btw, I’m bummed I only found your series recently-it’s amazing and always make me relate to myself. I’m a slow viewer, so Brady, you might have to deal with me leaving outdated, long comments on your older vids.🤣Have fun playing and living!
A badass hat, cop coat, sick glasses, shiny necktie and 'wifebeater'. Truly stellar look!
33:03 3 Guys, 1 Salami
Fuck yes I’ve absolutely read Deltora quest, incredible and terrifying me as a child
I've been trying to find the Deltora books for decades. I haven't read them since they first came out and I couldn't for the life of me find them as I had forgotten the name.
This is the best playthrough i've ever watched, and this was probably the best episode yet... so heartfelt and earnest, and educational! thank you for this amazing work Brady. You're right, we can do this, we can change things. keep on fighting the good fight
Love this series, had completed the game a while ago but the way Brady explains every character motives just adds so much value for me. Does anybody know that there are any other episodes on Brady's channel on the topic of relationships?
i feel depressed because the world is going again to war while the nature is giving clear signs of climate catastrophe
So far you have passed and turned down a lot of opportunities to make some r€al money...
Getting distracted by chat situation has improved, but consider hiding it on your end as well while progressing the game and check your stream health with a different method. (like - for just checking if the stream is running and 10 second past-self is moving, having your own stream open in minimum quality and on mute is much faster than waiting for the next chat message)
As for part about depression... yea... that hit hard.
I do prefer having chat visible. It’s fun to look at for me especially during big moments. It’s one of the major upsides to watching streams over normal let's plays for me.
There was a lot of shitting on chat too. I think there's a lot of 'you had to be there' because there's a vibe and conversational tone to the chat that gets lost on replay.
I'm not saying we didnt make mistakes when watching live but I think TH-cam comments on those of us engaging live were a bit harsh
Great decision to hide the chat
Brady should analyze death grips
That would be so funny and unproductive, I’d love it. Who knows maybe he could find some nuggets
Another therapist already did that, if anyone is interested just type in “death grips therapist”
Aesop Rock, maybe?
This has been my favourite episode of this playthrough so far. Thank you so much homie
The biggest book series from my childhood was A Series of Unfortunate Events. By the time I was in high school, it was a lot of dystopian stuff.
Yknow I think that all probably explains a lot about me as an adult...
Wait... I read that series too... and I watched Daria...
Na na na na na....
Damn. Me too. Both.
Hey Brady love your vids, thanks for making great content ! I've even started writing down CBT that i learned from watching, Have you heard of The Last of Us i think it would be very entertaining to watch you psycho-analyze the characters in it
I never read fantasy novels as a kid, but I remember I had a pal in jr high who was into a series called Dragonlance and one of the main guys was named Tasselhoff. I thought he was gonna be a big beefcake but was disappointed when he wasn't, he seems kinda hobbit coded. I wanted a beefcake dammit!
The phenomenon with the static woman at SCA is related to The Pale. The Pale is the cause of a lot of the weirdness in this world.
You need a politics translator, someone to ask questions so you know what the creator is trying to tell you about unions, money, and crime
This episode was gold honestly
I read so much of the Redwall series. They were ridiculously violent. Writer specialized in storytelling for the blind so there were so many nonvisual descriptions, like feasts and the like. They did lean into the idea that morality was innate. Cats and stoats weren't ever very nice.
The food descriptions were incredible. So good in fact that they wrote a Redwall cookbook!
I’m glad Brady is emphasizing that politics is really a band aid to cover the deeper psychological problems here. Without saying too much, if you do decide to take on a political side quest you’ll find the game has considered that perspective as well
My ADHD misses chat in the long pauses to think.
WE ARE SO BACK
Yaaayy so excited about a new episode! Can't wait to watch after my shift is over :)))
i freaking love this playthrough, such a good time, keep it up!
interesting that someone brings up the animorphs series only in reaction to the hyemdall book titles and not earlier - animorphs is absolute gold-standard "introducing complex and confronting concepts and scenarios to kids" books.
Those are based on Conan the Barbarian, not Animorphs, tho.
oh brother the entire depression part hits
One of my favourite episodes yet. I live for your unique perspective and super in-depth analyses
it's been 84 years...
interesting dynamic shift
About your guesses-you haven’t fully cracked it last time, even community is split on what are the true motivations of some characters. But you did guess the power dynamics, as in what does company want and what does union want. But those are still people with motives outside of their socioeconomic situation, sometimes people act irrationally. I was just glad to see you back out of “politics scary” and understand the landscape.
But the money motive doesn’t always align with the personal ones, and depending on the circumstances these characters would play into different directions.
Finally!! Glad to see you again
I definitely know I read about 3/5th of all Narnia books back when I was a kid (around 6 years of age, I think?) and consumed books rapidly. I stopped when they got a bit too hard for a young me.
hah. 20:00 i remember thoroughly enjoying the redwall books as a kid, going through all of them available at my school within the year. but i can not remember any character and most of the plots as they all start to be the same in my head. im going to one day read them through with an adult brain.
39:36 my family met a first responder living as a taxi driver for one of the boardwalk tourist towns along the east coast. his voice was terribly scratchy due to the after effects of all that ash in ground zero. a common effect for first responders i read.
Having been in both streams and watched on TH-cam ( my timezone difference means I usually don't catch both) I can day the mods have really clamped down on chat. Conversation is okay but if it gets a bit backseaty they quickly step in and I think that's a good thing, even as someone that can get a bit overexcited.
I actually got timed out at one point because I hypothesised something that comically I was COMPLETELY wrong about. I think a good balance has been struck between banter and engagement and not spoilering or backseating
I really appreciate (and can relate to on many levels) the breakdown on depression and what depressing behavior can impact in many aspects of our lives. We have our individual struggles, but I do believe cultivating real and positive relationships does a lot to reverse many of the other negative aspects you brought up. That also includes recognizing when someone is genuinely trying to be helpful and when someone else is trying to take advantage of you for their own means. I've experienced much of the latter and aspire to act the former towards the people in my life (even strangers). Love the playthrough, Brady. Cheers for sharing your experience and expertise.
17:00 Compare the stories you're describing with what was considered appropriate media for children when I was a kid. GI Joe, glorifying military as heroes who fight irremediably evil terrorists. Tom and Jerry, being desensitised and laughing the pain of others. I think truth and complex characters are way more nurturing to developing minds than the black and white flashy colours I remember being exposed to all the time. I think that's one of the reasons Hayao Miyazaki's work resonates so well across generations.
IMO colonialism is a very common theme in video games. We're always moving through places, gathering up as many resources as we can, often killing whatever we encounter that puts up any resistance. The more I think about it, the more the mainstream childhood I was exposed to seems reprehensible.
asa kid I've read a lot of russian isekai with ""adult"" humor that i found annoying
but Slimp trilogy is good
Whoa, the Eragon books. I remember having to wait until like 2014 for one of the sequels (iirc it was the last one, or atleast it ended in a way that implied it). Really really good literature.
so so happy that you brought up Redwall, even if briefly. The first book in that series I read was the Legend of Luke and it had a huge impact on what type of fiction I consume, even to this day.
This is all fine and dandy but the world doesn't care about how you feel. Here is some hard facts: if you can't get the money to pay Garte by tonight you will end up on the streets and then you won't be able to help Fritte girl or whatever. You gotta help yourself before you can help others
Just started the video, and before watching fully I know there are moments where you talk to chat for extended periods of time. If those moments occur maybe reenable chat? Otherwise idk. It’s your channel, your content.
Omg Brady hiiiii 👋👋👋👋👋
Aw man, the reminiscing about childhood books got me misty in the eyes. I used to read so much, goddamn... Great video Brady
Great episode! For me, it was less distracting without chat.
Hell yeah.
Babe wake up Brady's back!
I hope people arent spoiling you.
Great video, as always! Good to see someone defend pushing the boundaries of appropriate content in fiction. Literature seems like a great way to introduce more mature themes to kids who are ready.
Agree to a point, still doesn’t justify the fact that the people in the teachers unions that are in favor of that position in education also are pushing books into school libraries that graphically depict blowjobs and step by step instructions for using Grindr.
Holy shit what was that with slipstream
I can still feel the spoilers in the chat
ready to move on to the next slide
Great as always glad the series is back
Nothing ruins an LP more than the chat. Stfu, chat.
We are so back!
Hello!
Money can be very, very, tight. Especially on day 2
There really isn't a ton to make from bottles. I found a total of $2.50 from the areas that are currently open to you. The main areas being Harry's room and his outdoors drinking binge.
Can get money in the doomed warehouse aread (behind the curtain in the bookstore). There's is one object, in particular, is worth quite a lot (although you may want to keep it for reasons).
There is a LOT of money that is possible (not certain) to obtain in that crate by the docks that is moved by the crane.
There are several objects that can't be opened without equipping the prybar, or chaincutters (both functon the same). There is money inside some of them.
Can get money from Siileng.
Did you completely search the apartment complex? Did you open the doors? There are two sets of stairs leading to balconies that have some money.
Did you completely search the main floor of the hotel? There is a bit of money in the kitchen and around the hardy boys
Damn, disappointed about chat, found them very funny but very understandable Brady. Im loving this playthrough