Imagine spending $100 for an Elevated Chat.. And just before your favorite streamer reads it, you get hit with 9 back to back ads that can't be skipped. Twitch isn't just killing itself.. it's slowly bleeding itself dry, while everyone watches eating popcorn.
Honestly just waiting for YT Live to take over, they’ve been doing great adding all of the features consumers have been asking for like custom emotes and gifting subs (memberships). It’s great watching TH-cam streams just because THEY DONT HAVE ANY ADS during streams. Plus the interface is so much smoother, especially on mobile.
I love how the last few videos Charlie was saying "the chat is one of the only things better on Twitch than TH-cam" and it's like they were listening and immediately responded by making their chat worse hahahaha
The reality is elevated chats have probably been in the works for a few months. It has nothing to do with responding to TH-cam critics. That’s how the SDLC works. I work in tech. A project manager didn’t decide to start an entire feature within a month and finish it just to respond to a TH-camr.
Despite nearly every major twitch streamer threatening to leave, twitch still manages to not only ignore their criticisms but make the platform worse. It’s impressive how stupid the company is
The threats should become a reality. I don’t know other streaming sites besides TH-cam but they should start moving and just fuck with them until they go back.
@@gingermcgingin4106 That's probably what they meant. Watching the EAs of non-gaming forms of business tear themselves apart is so awesome it makes you cry.
I'm happy twitch is dying... twitch used to be creator oriented now it's ad, corporate, and politically oriented and they were so arrogant thinking they couldn't fail it's so good seeing them fall flat on there face.
At this point its basically confirmed Susan has infiltrated the twitch board of directors in a hat and fake mustache and she's single handedly sending streamers to TH-cam
$5 to put a message that makes it harder to see than a normal chat message? that's just hilarious, it's like Twitch is just making fun of their users at this point
Honestly that's fair because it acts as a deterrer for abuse. If everyone got refunded for being dickheads or advertising, that would not only be a moneysink for transaction fees but it would encourage more bad behavior.
@@jyrolys6 Okay, but now think of the flip side of that: mods abusing their power and deleting and elevated chat they don't like. Deleting a chat message for no reason is already a common occurrence and people deal with it because it's little more than a nuisance. But now imagine that power tripping mod costing you money.
@@LegendaryDorkKnight It's your choice to donate for a highlight. If they're not being reasonable with that power, why keep elevating chats there. Keeping it this way has more positives than negatives imo.
I hope to see James Corden sent to North Sentinel island one day to be a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many hungry tribal children he would feed.
These videos probably make Twitch SO MAD. If they ever punish content creators for speaking out, that is the beginning of the end for them. We have to hold them accountable for their actions.
The beginning of the end happened a good while ago. It’s going to be a slow downfall, due to the absolute size of twitch and how terrified a lot of creators who make their livelihoods there are of leaving. But the house of cards is already falling. It’s just a long, slow, painful death. It’s pathetic.
its crazy that twitch just simply cannot understand the fact that youtube isn't becoming sucessful because it's doing everything right, but rather that it's becoming successful because it's doing less things wrong than twitch.
@@comradesam3382 adds on twitch aren't skippable, and sometimes you get more than 1 so you can get like 4 full ads that will make you miss on like 2 minutes of the stream you were watching
It's as if Twitch saw Charlie's video of him pointing out that the only good thing abt twitch is the chat, and then they immediately burn the chat in a dumpster
I think the worst part is that during these "experiments" twitch literally puts in the FAQ section a straight up "No." to anyone who doesn't want to deal with this shit. Like don't buy bits if your favorite streamer got chosen for the "making donations easier" experiment because you physically can't send them unless you go to the mobile app. Twitch clearly doesn't care about the viewer or streamer experience at all. This whole thing has Amazon greed written all over it.
@@leahl5007 Only if the specific streamer you're watching got chosen for the experiment. Even typing "Cheer100" will take you to the money donation screen saying basically "you have to use this until the experiment ends." On the plus side though, you can still extensions that use bits.
@@pixlisreal im sorry what? thats just not whats happening you can do bits and elevated chats, the buttons are quite literally right next to each other
100 dollar option is what we call a decoy price in business. The purpose of this price is to just show how absurd it is and how much better the other price options are so that you would be incentivised to buy them, preferably in bigger quantities than when the prices would have been structured normally. So no, I think they did put some thought in it but still the elevated chats location is dumb af.
I hope to see James Corden sent to North Sentinel island one day to be a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many hungry tribal children he would feed.
For anyone wondering what some superchat times are: - $5 USD is 2 minutes - $10USD is 5 minutes - $100USD is 1 hour, with each next $100 being another hour up to $500 for 5 hours
Damn, thats A) how to tier prices properly, and B) a big gap between platforms, especialy since twitch werent the first to do it. Google undercuts them without even trying.
IIRC, youtube also lists all of the superchats for the streamer to see easily. many streamers will have Q&A sessions where they go back and answer all the superchats.
@@sginrummy88 i always loved super chats for informative streams on yt like that. Even some gamers would read em all after like a round or in between, so convenient.
"The bloat at the company" Charlie, tech companies are FILLED with completely unnecessary employees, usually in the "HR" side of things, including executive level management who do literally nothing beneficial for the company. This is happening at every single tech company, Streaming services, Game development, Social Networking, absolutely everywhere there are pointless job roles that bring nothing to the company that are intended to meet quotas that we (employees) are told don't exist1
The only thing that shocks me is the fact that people are shocked at twitch's ineptitude. I knew they were gonna fall when I learned years ago how they treated streamers who even teased trying out youtube, they act like the 1980s mob if that mob were run by 1st graders. Like, they'll burn down your italian sandwich shop if you don't pay protection, but not before crying screaming and pooping their pants or calling you a doodoo head
This is just incorrect. Nobody is clicking on the video because Charlie is on the thumbnail. They're clicking on it either because of the title, which summarizes what's actually in the video, or because it's a Cr1TiKaL video and they like Cr1TiKaL.
I love the fact that donating multiple times using the lowest price for elevated chat would make your message stay longer than donating with the highest price. So, paying the $5 x 20 = $100 would make your message stay for 10 minutes instead of just flat out paying the $100 for 2.5 minutes.
Twitch was probably assuming there’d be a waitlist, so buying 2 elevated chats back-to-back wouldn’t work. But it’s not like there’s anybody who’d actually buy it, other than shameless self-promoters and bots, which are also serious problems on the platform. Twitch really is shooting themselves in the foot here…
They do that in some fast food place like Burger King(I think, haven’t been there in years). It was hella cheap for 10 nuggets but 20 is way more than getting 2 10 pieces, but it works for the lazy people who just say 20 and pay more. It’s a purposeful loophole for dumb people to pay more.
@@steveweast475 no it doesn't, money won't stop the environment, he probably doesn't live in a bunker 24/7 so yeah his money didn't stop the hurricane and if you were playing the ease to repair card then be honest you would do the same with the money
They know people 98% of people will buy their 5 dollar tier, but HALF of those people can be tricked into buying 5 of them. because of the illusion of a good deal and cheating the system, when in reality they got played.
Something different to point out in the superchats is also the "color system", basically the amount of money you give is represented by a color, which is good just to pick up the attention of chat and streamers because the message appears in chat as a big colored block and stays on the top of it for a period of time, depending how much you donate, also that viewers can click and easily see what the person said in that superchat, and in my personal experience in multiple occasions i just click to see what people say, if is just a 100 dollars "LOL" or actually a kind message to the streamer thanking for the moment or whatever... but this just feels cold and worse, because, as mentioned in the video, you already have other ways to remark your massage in chat, even without money, and they tried to imitate the system but making it so easy to be ignored that baffles me. At least this will be writing in the history of internet for any future company in "what not to do as a company... the book" and people would learn from it
Also the fact that super chats stay there for a LONG time. If someone bought a $500 elevated chat on Twitch, it would stay up for between 12 1/2 to 50 minutes, whereas on TH-cam, a $500 super chat stays up for FIVE HOURS.
"The bloat at the company" Charlie, tech companies are FILLED with completely unnecessary employees, usually in the "HR" side of things, including executive level management who do literally nothing beneficial for the company. This is happening at every single tech company, Streaming services, Game development, Social Networking, absolutely everywhere there are pointless job roles that bring nothing to the company that are intended to meet quotas that we (employees) are told don't exist.
Twitch doesn't take into account of how fast chats can be in big streamers. You could spend $100 for a message to XQC but he wouldn't see it because a) he is playing a game and b) the chat moves faster than Usain Bolt trying to escape a pack of lions.
Yeah because with an audience that big, slow mode only truly gives people cool down on chat. And since there’s so many people already, even if each person sends one message only, the chat still goes by terribly fast.
I don’t use twitch often, but to hear that they’re getting rid of hosting is nearly mind boggling. It’s such a great tool for larger creators to share their audiences’. You would think that having more diverse content would help grow the platform, but I guess Twitch’s analytics show that funneling the viewers towards the top creators is more profitable?
actually, when you host. some times when you join in a channel that's hosting, your chatting in the person chat not the person they are hosting. so your mesages go through. hosting in general helps in the kingmaker system, which is great for popular streamer
Glad to see you weathered the storm ok. Hope you and yours escaped without injury or significant property damage. If I was a good supporter I'd pay $10 for you to see this for a minute when you were live! (Or maybe pay for no one to see it for a minute, but at least you'd get your $2 or whatever it is Twitch cuts you in on)
@@Devakiinable Exactly. Rome was a freakin' powerhouse. Ungodly in their status as THE empire, even managing to claim Egypt for their own because they wanted more f***ing wheat. Still fell. Twitch is playing with the same fire that ruined whole empires.
They won’t. Too Big to Fail is when governments prop up (“bail out”) industries they think are vital to national or economic security. Like when they say airlines and banks are too big to fail. Twitch will go the way of MySpace and LiveJournal and all the other long gone social media sites like them.
Idk why anyone has ever applied “they’re too big to fail” to twitch. That phrase is reserved for publicly traded companies like apple, google, Facebook etc. which have so much money they don’t know what to do with it. Twitch has never been close to nor ever will be in that category of businesses.
The fact that this video was posted 30 minutes ago and there’s already almost 200k views and 2k comments makes me so happy for Charlie. That’s a dedicated fan base man.
The insane comment number comes from the army of bots that spam comments. I'd say every other original comment is from a bot, and each original comment has about 6 bot replies, so the comment count is like 12x higher than it should be
I had often thought to go into twitch eventually, but now I understand it's better to stick with youtube live. Great videos on the twitch drama you've been releasing recently.
I find it hilarious how just last week Charlie was talking about how the twitch chat is one of the few things twitch has over youtube streaming and now they're trying to implement features for chat that are still worse than youtube in every way. At this point I'm just waiting for youtube to drop a banger update just to rub it in twitch's face
TH-cam needs to figure out how to promote interesting streams to people. But that's a much simpler problem to solve on than Twitch's ad troubles. Twitch implementing additional ways to get between the streamer and their fair share of the revenue is putting the cart before the horse, and it's killing the platform in real time.
I literally thought to myself while watching a TH-cam stream “man I’m really glad we don’t have super chats on Twitch, having that huge, constant distraction would be a disaster”
superchats are pretty good actually, they serve a purpose and they do it well and dont clutter chat much since they have their own space for it... twitch's implementation is awful though
On youtube they are fine, I don't see a problem with them here? They fly by at the same speed as everyone else and go to the top, where it's mostly for the streamer to see, they aren't noticeable. You won't be "spammed" because... they cost money lol? It's not like those fucking emotes being spammed in chat. Also YOU choose how much money to give, there is no "minimum" bullshit or set "prices", you give whatever amount you want. It makes the streamer some decent money.
twitch is placing all the financial burden onto viewers to make up for what twitch won't give to the streamers themselves/have taken away, yet most streamer will not want their viewers using these features even if it does make them more money lmao
Did you hear about the HUGE poker drama last night? It's just like the chess cheating scandal. One of the best cash game players Garrett Adlestein accused a rec player of cheating live on Hustler Casino
It's because Twitch started off at THE most pirated content site that wasn't outright X rated. Justin TV had everything on it, there's legacy there. When Twitch happened they kept it simple for a long time until Rona happen then they REALLY started effing up especially now.
they had 0 competition for so long and built such a large base that no matter how much they mes up ppl kiinda either rely on them or dont care at all because they dont notice. ive used twitch since this was added and had 0 clue ir care that it existed until now, and im sure twitch users who are even leas connected to the community or drama dont care at all (until they get hit with 5 mins of unskippable ads 😂)
Ok. But what if Twitch chat engineers want to ruin Twitch from the inside and working on to move streamers to other ‘better’ platforms? This is such an achievement and giant step forward
@@bohdankim381 isnt It true TH-cam is stealthily testing 5 unskippable ads on a row on some videos? They could pull the same stuff after they got the monopoly
Don't worry Charlie's fine, I'm about in the same area and we weren't affected as hard due to the hurricane veering off the course we thought. other counties however got the worst of it.
@@smg4suckslmaooo658 Its a great streaming place sure but the moderation is horrible and at this point youtube has improved their streaming so much might as move to that
That beneath the video feature sounds like when Larry King's show had the "quotes along the bottom from the guest you're watching, even though you just hear them."
Fun fact Tom didn’t ruin that website and cashed out incredibly hard before the total fall. He makes fun of people who don’t know how hard of a flex his life is/was. Because it truly was a flex. The site was clearly in death grips and he sold it for a tremendous profit in the long run.
Have you just discovered that a streaming company is trying to make money from people watching streamers? You actually thought it was a charity gamer site or something before?
The guy who immediately paid for $100 eLe chat immediately after he spells out how silly they are got me laughing. I thought some rich kid was trolling but seemed genuine. I really feel like the crazy price scale is to bait really down bad dudes following their favorite hot tub streamers
I'm glad you're safe Charlie. That hurricane got me worried for yall in Florida. Stay safe my friend. It's sad how twitch is taking the greedy route. It seems like most companies are taking that approach these days. Smfh
Seeing all of these recent changes on twitch unfold is like watching someone stuck in the middle of a frozen lake falling on their ass repeatedly until they finally break the ice and drown
It's insane that Twitch is willingly shanking itself into irrelevance. They went to Krypton and obtained the power of gods, then decided years later to drink shots of liquid Kryptonite, smoke Kryptonite cigarettes, and host a rave in a room with Kryptonite laser lights and fog machines out of boredom....
@@ZeroSmoke. Twitch actually did the Fusion Dance, combining both our statements, and then did the Potara fusion with the infamous Florida Man. All of this before they decided to marry Hurricane Ian.
Twitch is really getting themselves killed, which is gonna lead to TH-cam getting a monopoly on all things video streaming :( TH-cam sucks as well so I really hope this doesn't happen
I don't see Twitch dying anytime soon. Mixer was supposed to be the next Twitch and Microsoft shut it down after only 3 years. DLive backstabbed their community so they left Trovo is cool but only South Americans are on there
Another problem I have with elevated chat is if you notice, they don’t pop. They all look like standard point redeems. On TH-cam Super Chats are actually seperated by colors. They pop, make you kinda show off. TH-cam specifically designed them that way, and it’s the same with Super Thanks.
I think what you said about the engineering team coming up with the pricing is pretty likely. I think this because I am a software developer and this pricing scheme is probably the sort of thing I would come up with when I needed to deliver some feature and nobody told me what the pricing should be. If that truly is the case then I feel bad for the devs at Twitch because I know from experience that one of the most aggravating things to deal with as a programmer is rapidly changing or vague business requirements.
No not even close. It's a manipulation tactic, to trick people into buying 5 chats vs 1 because the average moron will go "100 dollars for 2.5 minutes, shoot I can get that if i buy 5 thirty second runs" when they look at the pricing, so when the consumer came with the intent to buy one, they see that they can "cheat the system" and buy 5 times the amount they came to buy to get a "good deal". BLIND AF if you cant see that
If a developer is deciding the prices then something is really wrong at twitch. This should be something that the higher ups at the company are coming up with.
@@1ben99 IT IS, It is intended to provoke people (mostly children) into buying FIVE TIMES what they normally would under the guise of "cheating the system and a good deal'
@@1ben99 It's worth repeating that I don't actually know what's going on at Twitch (if Twitch itself even knows), but yeah it's not a decision I would ever want to make as a dev.
Twitch was probably assuming there’d be a massive waitlist, so buying 5 $5 elevated chats back-to-back wouldn’t work. But it’s not like there’s anybody who’d actually buy anything, other than shameless self-promoters and bots, which are also serious problems on the platform. Twitch really is shooting themselves in the foot here…
I love how everyone was looking at these new streaming website and whether those sites would be the Twitch killers. None really succeeded, so Twitch decided to do the job themselves.
My favourite thing about the cost of the elevated chat thing is that whenever you see a “deal” like that it’s supposed to save you money. Like “yeah you could pay $25 in multiple $5 instances to have your message stay on screen for 2.5 minutes, but instead, if you just pay a flat $20 it stays there for the same amount of time” But no, Twitch is run by monkeys.
Thats the trick, people go to look at the pricing because they probably want to just buy one, then they see that they can "cheat the system" and get a little discount by buying 5, and so twitch manipulates someone instead of just buying ONE they buy FIVE because the consumer gets tricked into thinking THEY are pulling one over on twitch
Someone at Twitch is having a manic episode, hasn’t slept in three days, but thinks they are solving all of the internets problems effectively. They wrote this in those 72 hours while downing Red Bulls and feeling like they are invincible. I’m definitely not describing a manic episode I’ve had but applying it to Twitch. 😂🤣
@@Fluff_Noodles I mean, that’s the only way I can explain it as well given that their recent “ideas” read like my “plan” to end animal exploitation without making people mad. That is, they were all ideas that were bad, incoherent, and actually would have made everyone mad. 😂😭 So glad the depression right after sobered me up. 😆
Y'know, normally when companies start being greedy it's usually when they're the only place giving out a particular product or service, not when half of their consumer base is threatening to leave your platform for a competitor. It's astonishing, really.
I've got to stick up for another engineering team here. The bulk of what they're being paid to do isn't features. It's making improvements to core functionality and stability. Things that go completely unnoticed when they're working well. But it makes a big difference whether there's a 35 second broadcast delay, or a 2 second one. Twitch engineers have done great work. Most features take relatively little time to implement. It's just hard to find ideas for features which will actually add value to the service. A lot of potential features just aren't that desired, and don't do much to justify the cost of maintaining them.
I feel like Twitch has bad net code, youtube livestreams never buffer even on 3 wifi bars and caffee internet, but on twitch it always buffers for me no matter how good my connection is
can tell you one feature right now. Stream rewind in the player, just like in YT. There you have one of the most desired and substantial options they could add. Although it isnt up to the engineers, that fact still stands
Charlie, Ludwig, and others: The only thing Twitch has going for it is the chat.
Twitch: We can fix that.
@Kavetion cap
@@gamergod1618 Don't worry about him, those are bots Twitch is outputting to try and crash any critics
@Kavetion facts bro 💯
@Kavetion counter-ratio + common bot L + mald seethe cope + you fell off + (deleted) + your mother
@Kavetion L
Imagine spending $100 for an Elevated Chat.. And just before your favorite streamer reads it, you get hit with 9 back to back ads that can't be skipped. Twitch isn't just killing itself.. it's slowly bleeding itself dry, while everyone watches eating popcorn.
Honestly just waiting for YT Live to take over, they’ve been doing great adding all of the features consumers have been asking for like custom emotes and gifting subs (memberships). It’s great watching TH-cam streams just because THEY DONT HAVE ANY ADS during streams. Plus the interface is so much smoother, especially on mobile.
gotta have twitch adblock chrome extension
@@PastPositive same
also all the streamers I watch use the coin system to give you the ability to make your message more visible for literally no money.
@@imbetterlol1670 no
Damn they really heard Ludwig saying, "The only thing Twitch has better than TH-cam is chat" and said, "Bet, we'll ruin that."
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine bro what
@@ale2855 that dude isn’t even a bot what
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine Go to rehab my brother
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine I agree
I love how the last few videos Charlie was saying "the chat is one of the only things better on Twitch than TH-cam" and it's like they were listening and immediately responded by making their chat worse hahahaha
LOL
They're both garbage anyways
Atleast its the soul of twitch chat that also make it good
The reality is elevated chats have probably been in the works for a few months. It has nothing to do with responding to TH-cam critics. That’s how the SDLC works. I work in tech. A project manager didn’t decide to start an entire feature within a month and finish it just to respond to a TH-camr.
@@fermatslasttheorem6298 you sure you work in tech? Not a professional at missing jokes
How twitch can be such a massive company but ignore the basic fundamentals of BEING a company is a mystery
Because
DONT READ MY NAMES.😑
Damn, the bot is very aggressive
If you have unlimited funding from a company like Amazon, it’s real easy
These bots need to find God
Despite nearly every major twitch streamer threatening to leave, twitch still manages to not only ignore their criticisms but make the platform worse. It’s impressive how stupid the company is
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
The threats should become a reality. I don’t know other streaming sites besides TH-cam but they should start moving and just fuck with them until they go back.
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine HUH
@@serenade1714 He's posted the exact same thing on other comments, too. If it's a bot, it's a WEIRD bot.
@@bandito241 there are many, but not mainstreamed like TH-cam and twitch.
Witnessing the death of an awful company is tear-jerking
No, witnessing the death of a *good* company is tear-jerking, for awful ones it's cathartic.
@@gingermcgingin4106 That's probably what they meant. Watching the EAs of non-gaming forms of business tear themselves apart is so awesome it makes you cry.
I'm happy twitch is dying... twitch used to be creator oriented now it's ad, corporate, and politically oriented and they were so arrogant thinking they couldn't fail it's so good seeing them fall flat on there face.
@@xmantrader136 Same with TH-cam prior to 2017, but at least their new features show that they're trying to put themselves back on the right track.
true
At this point its basically confirmed Susan has infiltrated the twitch board of directors in a hat and fake mustache and she's single handedly sending streamers to TH-cam
ROFL OMG
I hadn’t considered that…..
it’s Conspiracy Time!
I wouldn’t be able to navigate this Twitch drama without you, Chuck
@Kavetion I’m better than Kavetion
@CreativeGigaChadUsername big fax
@@EEklipsAtDawn 100%
wow a girl
I'm surprised someone doesn't have heat on their paige
I love how Twitch is trying to stay alive but all their actions just dig a deeper hole for them.
They are speed running for bankruptcy
Taking an L and not bouncing back
@卐-SoundWrathAesthetics-卐 if you don’t get yo Mountain Dew Doritos fingers basement dwelling ass out
They are still relevant and the bigget streaming platform
@Mason good
$5 to put a message that makes it harder to see than a normal chat message? that's just hilarious, it's like Twitch is just making fun of their users at this point
"Patterrz" what does that mean? Is that some kind of pokemon
@@kingface2029 nah subnoodle is the man Patterz is the mascot
@@kingface2029 bro what. its his name??? why do you care what his name means?
@@makot0
And why do you seem so triggered lol
@@agentace1476 ah, makes sense
"If a mod deletes your elevated chat, you don't get a refund."
That speaks volumes to how little Twitch cares about creators and viewers.
haw
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Honestly that's fair because it acts as a deterrer for abuse. If everyone got refunded for being dickheads or advertising, that would not only be a moneysink for transaction fees but it would encourage more bad behavior.
@@jyrolys6 Okay, but now think of the flip side of that: mods abusing their power and deleting and elevated chat they don't like. Deleting a chat message for no reason is already a common occurrence and people deal with it because it's little more than a nuisance. But now imagine that power tripping mod costing you money.
@@LegendaryDorkKnight It's your choice to donate for a highlight. If they're not being reasonable with that power, why keep elevating chats there. Keeping it this way has more positives than negatives imo.
This is just sad lol, they can’t even count their own prices?
hi kitty cat
I’m pretty sure if you buy 5 lots of 30 seconds other people will go to the top in between meaning it’s not a constant 2.5 minutes
I hope to see James Corden sent to North Sentinel island one day to be a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many hungry tribal children he would feed.
@@gunpixelgun that just means your time is gonna be more spread out, which theoretically could cause more people to see it
@@mynaemwilliam lots of cats here huh?
These videos probably make Twitch SO MAD. If they ever punish content creators for speaking out, that is the beginning of the end for them. We have to hold them accountable for their actions.
the beginning of the end already started. i dont see why they would do that but i dont see why they do anything they do lately so why not
@Don't read profile photo ok I won't.
Bruh, I totally got leaf bugged
The beginning of the end happened a good while ago. It’s going to be a slow downfall, due to the absolute size of twitch and how terrified a lot of creators who make their livelihoods there are of leaving. But the house of cards is already falling. It’s just a long, slow, painful death. It’s pathetic.
In all honesty I would love to see that just so streamers can finally OFFICALLY rebel
its crazy that twitch just simply cannot understand the fact that youtube isn't becoming sucessful because it's doing everything right, but rather that it's becoming successful because it's doing less things wrong than twitch.
Fr, Im really close to saying f it to TH-cam just bc of all the adds I get, never been on twich but it seems way worse
@pte nani What’s the point of stealing this comment lmao
@@comradesam3382 adds on twitch aren't skippable, and sometimes you get more than 1 so you can get like 4 full ads that will make you miss on like 2 minutes of the stream you were watching
Charlie: "The thing thing twitch has is a better chat than youtube streams."
Twitch: (MAKES CHAT WORSE)
It's as if Twitch saw Charlie's video of him pointing out that the only good thing abt twitch is the chat, and then they immediately burn the chat in a dumpster
@@imbetterlol1670 that's not a high bar
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine I'll sign it
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine Shut up bot!
The fact that "elevated" chats can be buried beneath the screen is just beautiful to me.
Edit: beware of bots
Bots bots bots and bots
the bots is crazy
Ah yes the bots are here
Jesus Christ these bots 😭😭
my god, you're popular with the bots
I think the worst part is that during these "experiments" twitch literally puts in the FAQ section a straight up "No." to anyone who doesn't want to deal with this shit. Like don't buy bits if your favorite streamer got chosen for the "making donations easier" experiment because you physically can't send them unless you go to the mobile app. Twitch clearly doesn't care about the viewer or streamer experience at all. This whole thing has Amazon greed written all over it.
WAAT
My bits are locked off unless i’m on mobile??
@@leahl5007 Only if the specific streamer you're watching got chosen for the experiment. Even typing "Cheer100" will take you to the money donation screen saying basically "you have to use this until the experiment ends." On the plus side though, you can still extensions that use bits.
It feels like they want more people to watch Rings of Power. So they're sabotaging themselves, yet that's only gonna make people hate them.
@@pixlisreal im sorry what? thats just not whats happening you can do bits and elevated chats, the buttons are quite literally right next to each other
the fact that the $100 option gives you 24 TIMES less than what you'd get on youtube..
100 dollar option is what we call a decoy price in business. The purpose of this price is to just show how absurd it is and how much better the other price options are so that you would be incentivised to buy them, preferably in bigger quantities than when the prices would have been structured normally. So no, I think they did put some thought in it but still the elevated chats location is dumb af.
That $100 elevated chat math part had my dead 💀
your sentence makes absolutely no sense, what a big brain comment!
Yea, production team must be American 😂
on youtube $100 keeps your message up FOR AN HOUR (and every minute cost the same / you can pick the amount you want to pay)
@@lulpert1370 ?
charlie being mad at the dude who sent $100 shows his integrity
@YeaMan page*
@YeaMan its supposed to be "page"
He's not even mad, he's just feeling pity. 9:07 🤣
I hope to see James Corden sent to North Sentinel island one day to be a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many hungry tribal children he would feed.
$100 is dirt for him…. wtf are you talking about
For anyone wondering what some superchat times are:
- $5 USD is 2 minutes
- $10USD is 5 minutes
- $100USD is 1 hour, with each next $100 being another hour up to $500 for 5 hours
Damn, thats A) how to tier prices properly, and B) a big gap between platforms, especialy since twitch werent the first to do it. Google undercuts them without even trying.
Wpah thats alot
IIRC, youtube also lists all of the superchats for the streamer to see easily. many streamers will have Q&A sessions where they go back and answer all the superchats.
@@sginrummy88 Yeah I remember some of those, man, Twitch is really shooting their own foot on this.
@@sginrummy88 i always loved super chats for informative streams on yt like that. Even some gamers would read em all after like a round or in between, so convenient.
"The bloat at the company"
Charlie, tech companies are FILLED with completely unnecessary employees, usually in the "HR" side of things, including executive level management who do literally nothing beneficial for the company.
This is happening at every single tech company, Streaming services, Game development, Social Networking, absolutely everywhere there are pointless job roles that bring nothing to the company that are intended to meet quotas that we (employees) are told don't exist1
In other words, they want to improve their "ESG" score.
The only thing that shocks me is the fact that people are shocked at twitch's ineptitude. I knew they were gonna fall when I learned years ago how they treated streamers who even teased trying out youtube, they act like the 1980s mob if that mob were run by 1st graders. Like, they'll burn down your italian sandwich shop if you don't pay protection, but not before crying screaming and pooping their pants or calling you a doodoo head
That was only partnered streamers.. but they got rid of that policy anyway.
@@theobell2002 that's good, but as far as a track record goes it's still a blight of a policy
Twitch employing the EA strat for ruining companies with microtransactions and pure greed
LOL
Thank you captain hindsight
i can safely say i was able to witness twitches birth, into its arc of jumping into a woodchipper without ever going to its website thank you charlie
Doubt
Nice profile name, it really speaks to me man
Same
Justintv
this youtube comment is so cluttered with bots
There’s no way twitch isn’t doing this on purpose
Allah 🗑
☪️💥🤬👳🏾♂️
@NO RUNNING ALLOWED bro what 💀
@@ConnorM2007 😂
@NO RUNNING ALLOWED LMFAO
I like how Charlie himself is enough for us to click on these videos. No Fancy titles or thumbnails just him and his opinion.
This is just incorrect. Nobody is clicking on the video because Charlie is on the thumbnail. They're clicking on it either because of the title, which summarizes what's actually in the video, or because it's a Cr1TiKaL video and they like Cr1TiKaL.
I love the fact that donating multiple times using the lowest price for elevated chat would make your message stay longer than donating with the highest price. So, paying the $5 x 20 = $100 would make your message stay for 10 minutes instead of just flat out paying the $100 for 2.5 minutes.
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine wtf?
Twitch was probably assuming there’d be a waitlist, so buying 2 elevated chats back-to-back wouldn’t work. But it’s not like there’s anybody who’d actually buy it, other than shameless self-promoters and bots, which are also serious problems on the platform. Twitch really is shooting themselves in the foot here…
wow congrats u watched the video thats def not what charlie mentioned twice
They do that in some fast food place like Burger King(I think, haven’t been there in years). It was hella cheap for 10 nuggets but 20 is way more than getting 2 10 pieces, but it works for the lazy people who just say 20 and pay more. It’s a purposeful loophole for dumb people to pay more.
Twitch is taking so many L's that when twitch makes a good announcement we'll all be shocked.
Nothing but bots in the replies, jeez
We won't be shocked. We simply won't believe them.
its like youtube and roblox
Remember when they banned gambling? That was like a week ago yet it feels like it happens months ago in between all the Twitch L's
*if twitch makes a good announcement
As someone who breathes for a living, this is incredibly breathtaking.
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine what
Lol
Speaking of Twitch removing features, remember when chants were a thing? That was a fun time
Kind of an unrelated note, but I’m happy to see you’re OK Charlie. Florida got freaking SMASHED
Yeah I am close to Tampa. Pretty much we got hit by a Category 1. Fort Myers and a bit of tampa got smashed with a Category 4.
Being a multi-millionaire certainly helps with that
Imagine if the storm did hit place hard and he’d just stream through it though 😂
You forgot jesus walks on water
@@steveweast475 no it doesn't, money won't stop the environment, he probably doesn't live in a bunker 24/7 so yeah his money didn't stop the hurricane and if you were playing the ease to repair card then be honest you would do the same with the money
Truly a W for the L community
Allah 🗑
☪️💥👳🏾♂️
Jesus Christ this reply section
I feel bad for your comment it truly made me chuckle
I'm sorry that you had to see such asdholes in the comment
It's nuts how they don't inform streamers of this stuff ahead of time.
@кαηтα brother I fuckin stink andi. Love it
Did you get the memo
Working at a failing startup is exactly how you described. Managers pushing terrible ideas on engineers right up until layoffs.
They called it 'evelated chat' because it's elevated to a level beyond our understanding
ok.
ok.
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ok.
If someone superchats $100 on TH-cam it stays there for like 2 hours lmao. Twitch is on something.
They know people 98% of people will buy their 5 dollar tier, but HALF of those people can be tricked into buying 5 of them. because of the illusion of a good deal and cheating the system, when in reality they got played.
And 5 dollar stay 2 min lmfao
anything from $5 to $9 lasts 2 minutes lol
Something different to point out in the superchats is also the "color system", basically the amount of money you give is represented by a color, which is good just to pick up the attention of chat and streamers because the message appears in chat as a big colored block and stays on the top of it for a period of time, depending how much you donate, also that viewers can click and easily see what the person said in that superchat, and in my personal experience in multiple occasions i just click to see what people say, if is just a 100 dollars "LOL" or actually a kind message to the streamer thanking for the moment or whatever... but this just feels cold and worse, because, as mentioned in the video, you already have other ways to remark your massage in chat, even without money, and they tried to imitate the system but making it so easy to be ignored that baffles me. At least this will be writing in the history of internet for any future company in "what not to do as a company... the book" and people would learn from it
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
Also the fact that super chats stay there for a LONG time. If someone bought a $500 elevated chat on Twitch, it would stay up for between 12 1/2 to 50 minutes, whereas on TH-cam, a $500 super chat stays up for FIVE HOURS.
also it color codes each amount depending on what currency is used
People said the same thing about Blizzard and look how little it did.
Also they last longer,a 100$ would stay up for an hour
Glad you're ok charlie, with the ian hurricane going on in florida i hope everyone's doing well
Twitch never disappoints to disappoint us
The disappointment paradox: expect to always be disappointed, and you won’t ever be disappointed.
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine touch grass man
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine hows ur hiking to reach mount copium doing
Cope losers
It's weird they would try to make their own version of the superchat when they essentially already had one.
@@imbetterlol1670 bot
The difference there is the streamer could choose to turn those off, these are much funner™ and innovative℠
@@aidanoswald5034 innovative? they just copied youtube lol
@@NimbusHero they were kidding
@@NimbusHero sarcasm
I hope everything works out for the streamers out there. A platform that's messing things up like this needs luck to survive.
They’ll be fine lol
They're just gonna move to a new platform. I would save your tears for someone else lol
Maybe they'll get a real job now
@@xysm5224 That's pure jealousy coming from you lmao
@@xysm5224 ok person who is a janitor.
Request by @Evbb Jones from yours truly.
"The bloat at the company"
Charlie, tech companies are FILLED with completely unnecessary employees, usually in the "HR" side of things, including executive level management who do literally nothing beneficial for the company.
This is happening at every single tech company, Streaming services, Game development, Social Networking, absolutely everywhere there are pointless job roles that bring nothing to the company that are intended to meet quotas that we (employees) are told don't exist.
I’ll never get tired of listening to Charlie absolutely dunk on Twitch’s decision making.
Twitch doesn't take into account of how fast chats can be in big streamers. You could spend $100 for a message to XQC but he wouldn't see it because a) he is playing a game and b) the chat moves faster than Usain Bolt trying to escape a pack of lions.
Yeah because with an audience that big, slow mode only truly gives people cool down on chat. And since there’s so many people already, even if each person sends one message only, the chat still goes by terribly fast.
Real issue is why the hell would anyone watch xqc.
@@MisterHeroman Is that an issue?
@@MisterHeroman I would watch, but not chat at all. Chatting to get noticed by the streamer there is like winning a big lottery.
@@reisuuuuu xqc see your chat is rarer than having sex
I don’t use twitch often, but to hear that they’re getting rid of hosting is nearly mind boggling. It’s such a great tool for larger creators to share their audiences’. You would think that having more diverse content would help grow the platform, but I guess Twitch’s analytics show that funneling the viewers towards the top creators is more profitable?
Might also be for the snowflakes & bullying
Hosting is such a good tool to promote friends who are up and coming or share someone you're playing with if you're not actively going live.
actually, when you host. some times when you join in a channel that's hosting, your chatting in the person chat not the person they are hosting. so your mesages go through. hosting in general helps in the kingmaker system, which is great for popular streamer
@@deej237 why host people, instead make it easier to find streamers you have viewers in common with, oh wait twitch already did that
Hosting was like, their main "advantage" as a platform
And they willingly just yeeted it into a trash can
Glad to see you weathered the storm ok. Hope you and yours escaped without injury or significant property damage. If I was a good supporter I'd pay $10 for you to see this for a minute when you were live! (Or maybe pay for no one to see it for a minute, but at least you'd get your $2 or whatever it is Twitch cuts you in on)
Twitch is really, REALLY pushing their luck. I hope that they can't be "too big to fail" endlessly.
People should have switched the platform long time ago
Rome was too big to fail and what happened
@@Devakiinable Exactly. Rome was a freakin' powerhouse. Ungodly in their status as THE empire, even managing to claim Egypt for their own because they wanted more f***ing wheat.
Still fell. Twitch is playing with the same fire that ruined whole empires.
They won’t. Too Big to Fail is when governments prop up (“bail out”) industries they think are vital to national or economic security. Like when they say airlines and banks are too big to fail.
Twitch will go the way of MySpace and LiveJournal and all the other long gone social media sites like them.
Idk why anyone has ever applied “they’re too big to fail” to twitch. That phrase is reserved for publicly traded companies like apple, google, Facebook etc. which have so much money they don’t know what to do with it. Twitch has never been close to nor ever will be in that category of businesses.
Feelsbad for the person who sacrificed 100 dollars to test it out and almost wasn't noticed. Way to go Twitch 👍
Why pay a streamer that much is beyond me
@@casadefren Simps, would be my first guess.
Now, why anyone would sink so low, is beyond me.
@@Skelterbane69 they're just preparing the site to cater to thotery and hot tubs
@@Skelterbane69 "Frightening, isn't it? The cursed destiny of mankind."
also all the streamers I watch use the coin system to give you the ability to make your message more visible for literally no money.
The fact that this video was posted 30 minutes ago and there’s already almost 200k views and 2k comments makes me so happy for Charlie. That’s a dedicated fan base man.
Mad by twitch better than u...
Bc*
Charlie’s content is the highlight of my day
Remove like 1/3 of those comments though as the sheer amount of bots is terrifying
The insane comment number comes from the army of bots that spam comments. I'd say every other original comment is from a bot, and each original comment has about 6 bot replies, so the comment count is like 12x higher than it should be
I had often thought to go into twitch eventually, but now I understand it's better to stick with youtube live. Great videos on the twitch drama you've been releasing recently.
Losing those gambling sponsors really got Twitch acting strange 💀
“💀💀💀”
Can you imagine. There was a meeting of multiple people who discussed the prices and they thought it was a great idea. Let that sink in
Reptilians, not people
Bold of you to assume they had a meeting lol
Bold of you to assume they're people
Bold of you to assume they exist
I find it hilarious how just last week Charlie was talking about how the twitch chat is one of the few things twitch has over youtube streaming and now they're trying to implement features for chat that are still worse than youtube in every way. At this point I'm just waiting for youtube to drop a banger update just to rub it in twitch's face
TH-cam needs to figure out how to promote interesting streams to people. But that's a much simpler problem to solve on than Twitch's ad troubles. Twitch implementing additional ways to get between the streamer and their fair share of the revenue is putting the cart before the horse, and it's killing the platform in real time.
A twitch streamer I watch has already said that if you send him an elevated chat he's going to immediately ban you for wasting money.
I literally thought to myself while watching a TH-cam stream “man I’m really glad we don’t have super chats on Twitch, having that huge, constant distraction would be a disaster”
I guess it's good news then since the odds of this distracting anyone, even by accident, are lower than mortality rate by cow
Means superchat is doing it's job at least...unlike something else.
superchats are pretty good actually, they serve a purpose and they do it well and dont clutter chat much since they have their own space for it... twitch's implementation is awful though
On youtube they are fine, I don't see a problem with them here? They fly by at the same speed as everyone else and go to the top, where it's mostly for the streamer to see, they aren't noticeable. You won't be "spammed" because... they cost money lol? It's not like those fucking emotes being spammed in chat. Also YOU choose how much money to give, there is no "minimum" bullshit or set "prices", you give whatever amount you want. It makes the streamer some decent money.
@@Nikki_the_G its like you did not watch the video at all
There's no way twitch can embarrass themselves even more.
Twitch: “Hold my overpriced elevated chat.”
twitch is placing all the financial burden onto viewers to make up for what twitch won't give to the streamers themselves/have taken away, yet most streamer will not want their viewers using these features even if it does make them more money lmao
Emmett Shear is acting a lot more like Jim Ryan right now.
“Letting an AI run twitch” sounds like a great video.
Thank you Charlie for helping us navigate through the downfall of twitch
But twitch worked hard
Twitch 10/10 charlie 0
@@smg4suckslmaooo658 huh?
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine Shut up bot!
Did you hear about the HUGE poker drama last night? It's just like the chess cheating scandal. One of the best cash game players Garrett Adlestein accused a rec player of cheating live on Hustler Casino
Its a never ending drama . kinda entertaining though ngl
Accused him of cheating during the match?
Someone wanna throw it together for me quick ?
He researched it for over an hour last night on stream so there will prob be a vid about it
@Soundwrath shut up.
It’s amazing twitch managed to get this far in the first place honestly.
If you want to give them benefit of the doubt, maybe Amazon is forcing their hand into stupid decisions
It's because Twitch started off at THE most pirated content site that wasn't outright X rated. Justin TV had everything on it, there's legacy there. When Twitch happened they kept it simple for a long time until Rona happen then they REALLY started effing up especially now.
they had 0 competition for so long and built such a large base that no matter how much they mes up ppl kiinda either rely on them or dont care at all because they dont notice. ive used twitch since this was added and had 0 clue ir care that it existed until now, and im sure twitch users who are even leas connected to the community or drama dont care at all (until they get hit with 5 mins of unskippable ads 😂)
I laughed my ass off at Charlie's reaction to the $100 elevated chat donation @ 8:59
Ok. But what if Twitch chat engineers want to ruin Twitch from the inside and working on to move streamers to other ‘better’ platforms?
This is such an achievement and giant step forward
Not really. Then TH-cam will have a monopoly on streaming and pull even scummier things than what twitch is currently doing.
@@bohdankim381 isnt It true TH-cam is stealthily testing 5 unskippable ads on a row on some videos? They could pull the same stuff after they got the monopoly
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 Just get adblock. Im using one and i never get ANY ads. But yeah it still is a dick move.
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 Sadly manifest v3 will render adblocks less effective.
@@kasoy5239 on Google Chrome yes, but apparently it will be just fine on Firefox
Off topic but stay safe dude. Hope everyone down in Florida can make it through this.
We need a petition to get James Corden sent to North Sentinel island as a cannibalistic offering. Imagine how many tribes he could feed?
Given Charlie isnt far from me I think he made it through with probably little to no problems. Its the people further south that got fuckked
Don't worry Charlie's fine, I'm about in the same area and we weren't affected as hard due to the hurricane veering off the course we thought. other counties however got the worst of it.
Except Des Santo that corrupt racist evil piece of shite I want his career destroy
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Twitch is like that popular kid in highschool and then 20 years later he works at the local burger king as the cashier 💀
Twitch is great wym?
@NO RUNNING ALLOWED
Wow you must be fun at parties
Yeah nobody cares about what you have to say
@@smg4suckslmaooo658 Its a great streaming place sure but the moderation is horrible and at this point youtube has improved their streaming so much might as move to that
That beneath the video feature sounds like when Larry King's show had the "quotes along the bottom from the guest you're watching, even though you just hear them."
We’ll all be 80 years old when this drama finally ends, or maybe not even. It’s sad to see a huge company like Twitch being like this.
DONT READ MY NAMES.😑
Finally what
twitch will die faster than us so
when it finally what
Finally what
Fun fact Tom didn’t ruin that website and cashed out incredibly hard before the total fall. He makes fun of people who don’t know how hard of a flex his life is/was. Because it truly was a flex. The site was clearly in death grips and he sold it for a tremendous profit in the long run.
Yep, now he's literally living the dream traveling across the world and enjoying his incredibly large bank account.
Did he flex on twitter or something ?, qnybody know his twitter ?
This can actually show that Twitch is just trying to make money for themselves and compete with other Streaming apps.
well...yeah. Theyre a business, busines inherently want money
Have you just discovered that a streaming company is trying to make money from people watching streamers? You actually thought it was a charity gamer site or something before?
Smh, nothing but bots
@@ohiyoresident bot
Cap because twitch worked hard
The guy who immediately paid for $100 eLe chat immediately after he spells out how silly they are got me laughing. I thought some rich kid was trolling but seemed genuine. I really feel like the crazy price scale is to bait really down bad dudes following their favorite hot tub streamers
I'm glad you're safe Charlie. That hurricane got me worried for yall in Florida. Stay safe my friend.
It's sad how twitch is taking the greedy route. It seems like most companies are taking that approach these days. Smfh
Florida getting hit by a hurricane is like getting a single misquito bite in a stagnant pond.
Florida people are just a different breed
Charlie is a Florida man? Holy shit
@@sandraswan9008 this explains where do his quality dry humor came from
I live in northport, just a few miles north of landfall, Fort Myers area got wrecked
Seeing all of these recent changes on twitch unfold is like watching someone stuck in the middle of a frozen lake falling on their ass repeatedly until they finally break the ice and drown
😮
Rat100
Rati1
LMAO IM BETTER
@Raccoon bot
It's insane that Twitch is willingly shanking itself into irrelevance. They went to Krypton and obtained the power of gods, then decided years later to drink shots of liquid Kryptonite, smoke Kryptonite cigarettes, and host a rave in a room with Kryptonite laser lights and fog machines out of boredom....
This might be one of the most creative TH-cam comments ever that isn't recycled hot dog water
@@tigolbitties9739 I have my moments on odd occasion.
omg is that a marvel reference omg soyface
More like they flew to the sun, came back to Earth, and started dousing themselves in endless amounts of Kryptonite.
@@ZeroSmoke. Twitch actually did the Fusion Dance, combining both our statements, and then did the Potara fusion with the infamous Florida Man. All of this before they decided to marry Hurricane Ian.
Twitch is really getting themselves killed, which is gonna lead to TH-cam getting a monopoly on all things video streaming :(
TH-cam sucks as well so I really hope this doesn't happen
This is like Michael from the office showing up with ice cream sandwiches as a surprise instead of an insurance plan.
This is Twitch in a nutshell 😂, great meme potential here.
LMAOOOOO
I honestly kinda love how stupid twitches death is turning out to be. It's poetic
I don't see Twitch dying anytime soon.
Mixer was supposed to be the next Twitch and Microsoft shut it down after only 3 years.
DLive backstabbed their community so they left
Trovo is cool but only South Americans are on there
Somehow doing worse than overwatch lol
Watch them actually limit the usage of the 5 dollar elevated chat instead of actually fixing their prices.
Another problem I have with elevated chat is if you notice, they don’t pop. They all look like standard point redeems. On TH-cam Super Chats are actually seperated by colors. They pop, make you kinda show off. TH-cam specifically designed them that way, and it’s the same with Super Thanks.
I think what you said about the engineering team coming up with the pricing is pretty likely. I think this because I am a software developer and this pricing scheme is probably the sort of thing I would come up with when I needed to deliver some feature and nobody told me what the pricing should be.
If that truly is the case then I feel bad for the devs at Twitch because I know from experience that one of the most aggravating things to deal with as a programmer is rapidly changing or vague business requirements.
No not even close. It's a manipulation tactic, to trick people into buying 5 chats vs 1 because the average moron will go "100 dollars for 2.5 minutes, shoot I can get that if i buy 5 thirty second runs" when they look at the pricing, so when the consumer came with the intent to buy one, they see that they can "cheat the system" and buy 5 times the amount they came to buy to get a "good deal". BLIND AF if you cant see that
If a developer is deciding the prices then something is really wrong at twitch. This should be something that the higher ups at the company are coming up with.
And lets not act like it' intended to TRICK CHILDREN into spending more their parents money
@@1ben99 IT IS, It is intended to provoke people (mostly children) into buying FIVE TIMES what they normally would under the guise of "cheating the system and a good deal'
@@1ben99 It's worth repeating that I don't actually know what's going on at Twitch (if Twitch itself even knows), but yeah it's not a decision I would ever want to make as a dev.
Twitch was probably assuming there’d be a massive waitlist, so buying 5 $5 elevated chats back-to-back wouldn’t work. But it’s not like there’s anybody who’d actually buy anything, other than shameless self-promoters and bots, which are also serious problems on the platform. Twitch really is shooting themselves in the foot here…
That Profile Picture of yours was able to fund an entire research team to research my mind in order to explain the new emotion that was created
"You're just paying money to be ignored."
God, if Chester is still alive today, he's always noticeable.
eh paano kung
I like how the feature was so rushed that no one even thought about doing the math on the price.
Charlie is like the Charon guiding us through the dumb decision twitch makes
Absolutely in love with the fact that youtube keeps putting these videos of Charlie brutalizing twitch at #1 trending for gaming 💀😂
I love how everyone was looking at these new streaming website and whether those sites would be the Twitch killers. None really succeeded, so Twitch decided to do the job themselves.
Lol I'm better
It's like World of Warcraft. We've been wondering if the next new thing will take down Twitch, only for it to kill itself.
Just like halo lmao
@Chaser123 Report and move on
The inner machinations of Twitch's mind are an enigma
I can lovingly gaze into Charlie's eyes for exactly 3 hours
DONT READ MY NAMES.😑
Michael Gove.
Wtf 4 bots in a row
Very specific
What happens after 3 hours? You just can't stare longer or did charm pass and it's like normal looking. Im intrigued
2:50
"Spending money to be ignored"
Remember me of a topic you already talked about : PAYPIGS
My favourite thing about the cost of the elevated chat thing is that whenever you see a “deal” like that it’s supposed to save you money. Like “yeah you could pay $25 in multiple $5 instances to have your message stay on screen for 2.5 minutes, but instead, if you just pay a flat $20 it stays there for the same amount of time”
But no, Twitch is run by monkeys.
Thats the trick, people go to look at the pricing because they probably want to just buy one, then they see that they can "cheat the system" and get a little discount by buying 5, and so twitch manipulates someone instead of just buying ONE they buy FIVE because the consumer gets tricked into thinking THEY are pulling one over on twitch
someone at twitch definitely saw the story about the lemonade stand kid selling 3 oranes for $3 , and 10 tangerines for $12 and felt inspired
Someone at Twitch is having a manic episode, hasn’t slept in three days, but thinks they are solving all of the internets problems effectively. They wrote this in those 72 hours while downing Red Bulls and feeling like they are invincible.
I’m definitely not describing a manic episode I’ve had but applying it to Twitch. 😂🤣
IM BETTER LMAOOO RATIOO
Somehow this seems like only reason that makes sense at this point 😭😭
@@Fluff_Noodles I mean, that’s the only way I can explain it as well given that their recent “ideas” read like my “plan” to end animal exploitation without making people mad. That is, they were all ideas that were bad, incoherent, and actually would have made everyone mad. 😂😭
So glad the depression right after sobered me up. 😆
Y'know, normally when companies start being greedy it's usually when they're the only place giving out a particular product or service, not when half of their consumer base is threatening to leave your platform for a competitor. It's astonishing, really.
I've got to stick up for another engineering team here. The bulk of what they're being paid to do isn't features. It's making improvements to core functionality and stability. Things that go completely unnoticed when they're working well. But it makes a big difference whether there's a 35 second broadcast delay, or a 2 second one. Twitch engineers have done great work. Most features take relatively little time to implement. It's just hard to find ideas for features which will actually add value to the service. A lot of potential features just aren't that desired, and don't do much to justify the cost of maintaining them.
I feel like Twitch has bad net code, youtube livestreams never buffer even on 3 wifi bars and caffee internet, but on twitch it always buffers for me no matter how good my connection is
I seem to remember a day that streamers couldn't go live for hours. Not good.
@@hotdogman7442 because yt has way more delay
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can tell you one feature right now. Stream rewind in the player, just like in YT. There you have one of the most desired and substantial options they could add. Although it isnt up to the engineers, that fact still stands
"Finally, inner peace."
*Moist uploads a new video with 'Twitch' in it*
"Now what..."
Twitch is in a literal spiral right now. Losses , losses and more L's
LMAOOO RATIOOOO
I want someone to leak footage of the ways they come up with these ideas
these bots are wilding man
These bots are wild. I do not condone any of this horrific language. Bots gotta be white asf
@@kaiiii2718 kaiiii doesn’t condone of this language boys that means stop
When they said 2.5 minutes, did they actually mean 25 minutes? Even then that wouldn't be much.
Tom didn't ruin Myspace. He sold it at just the right time, made bank and is now living a life of travelling and photography.
If I have a penny everytime Twitch gets an L, I'd be a millionaire.