Well yeah it's a gamble pouring all of your money into making a game just for speculating on how much you will get back on release day. They didnt make enough so theyre fucked
It's important to remember not just the name of the failed studio Fntastic, but the names of the people who conducted the failures. Eduard and Aisen Gotovtsev are the founders of Fntastic, and it would be a disservice to all if public knowledge forgot that a company is run by people.
Run by people is one thing, taking money from the people and not fulfilling the things they said they would, makes them just greedy failures. These "people" were lying to the public for a long time, and after taking money for their "scam" and "lies", they're now closing it. Sorry, that's pure theft, regardless of what opinion you have.
Makes you really appreciate how Hello Games handled the disastrous launch of No Man's Sky. They made a fat bag from that game and could've taken the money and run. But instead, they went radio silent, buckled in, and made the game an absolute banger -- everything it promised, and so much more. Obviously it'd be so much more preferable if it was like that at launch, but at least they showed integrity and an actual desire to make a game and not just a quick buck.
That game was one of my absolute favorites, unfortunately my trash console means each loading screen takes almost 30 minutes and most of the features are unavailable to me because they just crash the game. : (
Unfortunately, probably. A lot of people think making a game is easy, and that it's the perfect cash machine, but forget that, yes, it's easy to make a game _that sucks_ but _incredibly_ difficult to make one that doesn't.
it’s not hard to make a game that’s objectively good and fun, it’s hard to make a cost-beneficial-money-machine-guising-as-a-game that is objectively good and fun. But it’ not impossible. Lots of sports games are known for being pretty mid, yet they have lots of players and they unabashedly want you to spend all your money on digital BS and don’t care if you’re having fun.
@@kittiekillahI mean those sports games are essentially monopolies in their own category. There just isn't a lot of options for you to pick compared to many other genres like FPS, metroidvania, platform games etc.
they charged people $40 and are now claiming that any funds they collect must be used to pay debts. putting aside everything else, releasing a half-baked product that you have no intention to support and taking money is absolutely a scam.
redfall was a bugfest and cringe fest but it was what they announced and ppl werent even interested. the day before advertised as mmo tlou2 back in 2020@@icebite9888
Hearing this makes me appreciate the no mans sky devs more, we thought they were a scam for not having the features they mentioned in their interview but they kept their promises in the end.
That is still a scam if you buy a product based on misleading claims from the head dev. They directly lied about features that would be in the game on release up until and past the release date saying that multiplayer was possible and in the game. Stop thanking people for scamming you just because they didn't completely up and run away with the money lol.
The worst part is that theyre still walking away with millions of dollars. They sold 200k copies and only 92k people refunded last i saw. So just multiply the remaining by $40
Likely they spent more making the game than they got from sales. Some of the revenue is taxed and some is given to third parties who host a sell video games (like steam for example) and now because their game is ass, no one’s spending $40 on it lmao
Fnatics' other game "Propnight" is actually dead. You launch the game and it never connects and there is no way to play offline. Perfect example of what we need offline versions of games so when the Devs vanish overnight we can still play the games we PAID for.
I saw this theory on Twitter: "Thanks solely to the hype generated by its (plagiarized) dream trailers, in just 4 days the game sold over 200,000 units, including only 90,000 refunds. At $39.99 a game, this represents sales of around $4.4 million. That's $3.5 million pocketed in 4 days, even after Steam's 20% commission. Even though everyone had warned the public from the start that this was a Scam."
@@alksonalex186 Yes, the numbers probably aren't exact, but I think what he meant was that the "studio" is counting on the general public's laziness/ignorance about the fact that they can get reimbursed, to make a profit.
I’m not entirely sure how Steam is but I have heard that Steam doesn’t pay them right away and I think they get paid every month on the 30th, so hopefully this gets delisted quickly and everyone gets their full money back.
@@arsenal4739 I'm pretty sure, you have to ask for a refund, even if the game is delisted, it's not automatic. the "studio" is counting on the general public's laziness/ignorance about the fact that they can get a refund, to make a profit.
0:25 it is not a editing mistake its charlie giving us time to self reflect by surprising us with our own reflection through a black screen. so poetic.
I don’t really play it but No Man Sky Developers deserve huge respect they actually apologised and made the game they promised a few years later rather than shutting their entire studios down and they were looking the other way and it payed off. :)
Same with CDPR. After the Cyberpunk 2077 disaster, they apologized, they refunded to the customers and they fixed it. Even with still having bugs but at least it's better than before and they also make the game relevant again thanks to Edgerunner anime and also with Phanton Liberty which is either the DLC or Expansion of the game. Also, after looking the comparison of Cyberpunk and Starfield on TH-cam, you will appreciate Cyberpunk more from the gameplay, cutscenes, NPCs, combat and even the environment.
The only conclusion I can draw is that they did originally set out to make an MMO, but then early on in development they started realizing how monumentally challenging an MMO actually is to create, so they pivoted to an extraction shooter without telling anyone and hoped nobody would care.
No what they did was steal or copy all the ideas from an old flash mmo game called the last stand dead zone they both play the same exact way except dead zone was better than this
Nah they never intended to make anything at all they threw an asset flip together in a few days to scam people this company are scammers factually and theyre luckily not getting away with the money
The fact they shut down to avoid a law suit I’m guessing. I really hope the lawsuit still goes through and these people get there money back. This sets a dangerous precedent for gaming
@@buca9696 It’s not about the people who bought the game, it’s about the people who donated to the kickstarter when the game was being developed. A lot of stuff was promised that never happened. And it’s people like you that feed into the lies from developers that enable them to keep fucking us over. But yeah, I will be a drama queen for a scam that cost people millions over the last couple of years.
They did. The entire map, inventory system, like 99% of the game was built using Unreal Engine assets -- most of which were released in the past few years. Meaning that they didn't even have a map, inventory system, etc until at least 2021 -- purportedly 3 years into "development." There are going to be some internet historians digging into this mess and making like 2 hour long videos within a month or two. There's so much going on behind the curtains that has been dug up since launch, it's hilarious
They used the fake trailers to generate excitement knowing that a large portion of people would buy the game with the actual real gameplay sight unseen regardless. And it was a genius scumbag tactic that worked all the way to the bank
Steam, like any other online store releases payments monthly so they didn't laughed anywhere, they probably were hopping for less uproar so they could take the bag and run but they couldn't hense why they throw in the towel.
@@jorgeloredo100 they stand to make away with at least 1.5 million dollars unless all purchases are refunded not just the 2 hour refunds. Hopefully they do as they have said and refund anyone who wants one. What a disgraceful disaster
I’d highly recommend KiraTV’s videos on this “company” and their shady dealings. There’s so much more they tried to get away with that he constantly sheds light on. This conclusion is almost foretold given their past.
@@ghostkilla931Alright, let me explain the joke to you. The joke is that this game is supposed to show you what games in a post-apocalyptic world could be like. Not a game that takes place in one, but a game created in one.
Someone on the steam comments had posted all the unreal asset packs that made up the game either hardly or not changed at all. It was a quick asset flip thrown together.
@@jeremyeyles735to be fair, big AAA games can go through a several year “concept/pre production” phase before any actual development begins… but yeah, this case is just a blatant scam and bail
@@jeremyeyles735 The City map itself wasn't even released on the storefront until 2021. Don't ask me how you are supposed to be developing a game for 3 years but not even have a gameplay environment to actually test.....
They were probably betting it would sell at least half as many copies in their wishlist but its so odd they pulled the plug so fast, you'd think they would at least wait a month to ensure at least a few thousand more sales, maybe sales fell like 99% by the 3rd day so they thought it was time to jump ship?
Nobody caught this 1:32 What said depressed the heck outta me, "We really wanted to release new patches to reveal the full potential of the game, but unfortunately, we don't have the funding to continue the work" Direct quote from Fantastic. Horrifying yet common place, game incomplete at launch and AAA game studios unwilling or unable to promise anyone a full game on release, and expect people to buy a broken game only to fund them further so they actually feel like finishing it. This is not ok, anyone who doesn't care about this doesn't care about video games.
This is not a triple a studio lol and how do you expect an indie studio that already fucked up by putting all of their money into the game to continue if they couldnt finish it? I think we all would do that same thing
When I hear the word "fantastic" I think of the character named Fantastic from Fallout New Vegas. Just like Fntastic, he is a scammer that pretends to be competent in order to get trusted enough to be put in charge of something he has no right touching. The developers of The Day Before definitely also have a theoretical degree in physics
Yeah, it was a surprise that we got a game after all, but as Charlie said, we weren't expecting for them to release new patches. Fun fact, they are using the "we didn't do crowdfundings, or took money from players" card because that's what they did with their first game, it was crowdfunded. And yes, only a couple of months after the early access release they abandoned the game.
It would be funny if the source code leaks, and a bunch of people fix the entire game and easily make it look like the fake trailers and end up being really good
You don't need the source code.... The entire "game" is just a pile of pre-built assets and object behavior. A college student with a credit card could recreate this game 1 for 1 as a senior project for class and come up with the exact same outcome. The closest to anything "hand built" in the "game" is their direct rip-off of the Division HQ, UI and all.
Who would've thought that the company with an extensive history of abandoning games has, yet again, abandoned a game. Like people had a whole YEAR of everyone warning them "do not buy this game, it is a scam" and yet they still bought into it. I do not feel bad for them.
What history of abandoning games are you talking about? Please tell me. I only know about Propnight being one of their biggest games and that actually got a bunch of cool updates. It just seems like you heard that from someone and didnt bother researching that claim
You know not everyone who buys a game learns everything about it before purchasing. If from the advertisements a game looks good and people buy it only to find that the advertisements were misleading, then I do feel bad for them.
@@snarpking The rating on steam are right on the top of the page, why would someone buy a game that is immediately rated as "overwhelmingly negative"? It's their own fault at that point.
With games like we have now coming out made by single devs with passion, that are way better than AAA companies are pushing out the door these days, there should be absolutely no reason a game should come out like this of there's at least 2 people behind it
Now, I'm no game publisher, but I've heard that getting money from Steam sales isn't instant. On top of that, Steam was extremely generous and letting everyone who had the game refund it as the thing was an obvious cash grab and was a very public disaster... I think they always intended to take the money and bounce, but something behind the scenes has happened with Steam and they aren't likely to cash out. So that's something at least.
Actually see the reason why steams profit isn't instant like many companies is because they can put that money in a bank and draw interest. So technically they helped them scam people for a good hot minute and knew exactly what they were doing.
It's called "theft by deception". When you lie and mislead someone in order to get money or items from them. This is exactly what they did. They'll be sued into oblivion.
@@Sniperbear13Well they're not based in international waters, my friend. They have to live somewhere. I'm sure a quick Google search would give you an idea of where to file 🤣
there needs to be something put in place for companies that are just lying in trailers before release even if its to do with how it looks graphics while then downgrading on release.
I'd support that. Shit look at warcraft reforged, they showed a remade cut scene at their blizzcon thing for it then removed the remade cut scene before actually releasing the game. They promised all new scenes, missions, more lore for side character. Yet all we got was more bugs/ crashes that hadn't existed prior to reforged, lost the rights to our own ideas if we make them in the custom campaign stuff. Also lost all the custom maps that had existed and yeah that was horrid. But hey they promised so much at the start then just shat on everyone on release.
I feel like not only they didn’t get a ton of big investors, they also had a decent bit of skeptics when the first trailer dropped and the longer the time went on more skeptics kept growing. That definitely I feel added to the money issue.
No dude..... ROFL. There was never a fucking money issue. This shit was built to rob from the very start. There was never an actual attempt to create a worthwhile product. Investors where never in the equation man 🤣😂😂🤣
I will say Propnight was super fun when it first came out. It's still enjoyable now. Coming from Propnight the writing was on the wall that they could never do what they promised in The Day Before.
This game has to live. It has to live as a reminder of this situation. Crack it, pirate it and keep it around, to not let any company to get away with this again.
Just wanna drop this here, they have gone through some of their old games and changed the dev name from FNTASTIC to Eight Points, so they're trying to slip away under a new name.
I remember reading that only about 1 in 30 people leave a review on steam. That means Scam Game potentially sold 633k copies. Thats a lot of money to cut and run with
You know you're in for a certified banger when a video starts with a definition by Mirriam Webster. It feels like I'm just sitting in for a Community College freshman debate panel.
I like that you bought a cameo for your sponsor xD most people that get sponsored only use words and editing. This shows you quiet like sponsors and you're serious about them! well done.
My bf was pissed. He told me to smack him the next time he even utters the word "pre-order". Luckily, the game crashed when he attempted to change the resolution- He took that as a sign before the 2 hour window expired.
He was under the assumption it wasn't going to go well... sometimes you just can't help yourself. I get it. I'm sure you do also if you're honest with yourselves, but that's a rare quality, one my bf doesn't even possess. At least it's the evil I know ;)
@@IrieRogue I'm sure lots of people thought it was a fake game that would never come out and when it actually launched they were intrigued to see just how bad it is.
Very much agree to this. I don't really see any game company make actual passion filled games. Just cash grabs and old reused material cause no one knows how to make games for fun and passion anymore. Sad these days.
All I can hope for this game is somebody manages to crack it, share it across the internet, an independent studio flips it, and turns it into a masterpiece somehow Which will probably never happen
ok, I'm not really good at english and I couldn't really understand full explanation that he gave us. I just wanna ask is that propnight is still gonna be operational or the game is gonna shut down to?
@@sahilkumawat4965 It's going to shut down too. "At the moment, the future of The Day before and Propnight is unknown, but the servers will repain operational." P much they sound like they secured an x amount of time for paid servers until they will pull the plug completely.
@sahilkumawat4965 another comment said that they tried to launch the game, and its no longer active. Ironically, their apology/goodbye letter claimed that wouldn't happen, and the servers would remain open.
Just want to say Charlie thank you for being a epic dude and reporting on these situations i just want to say thanks man love to see a new vid from you always makes my day love you bro keep doing what your doing
THEORY: The devs were a bunch of childhood friends with wealthy white-collar dads that never understood their passion for gaming. The friends convince their fathers for loans to create their game, but dads cheap-out. The devs also do realize they were in far over their heads trying to make the game. It all adds up.
Buddy they ran out of money. They aren't a bunch of nefarious and devious scammers. They're just shitty game developers. A bunch of dorks who thought they were making something awesome when really it was trash. Like how 14 year olds do when they make their first video game. Some people do that shit as adults. They weren't trying to scam people and they aren't running away not that they're being called out. They're just bad developers who released a bad game and now the money has run dry and they're done for.
The company is actually pronounced 'Funtastic,' btw, and their game Prop Night was actually something of a junior juggernaut in its niche area of horror asym for a time, largely because of the work put in to reinvent the game when it got stale and keep it alive on the part of their dev team. Not sure where the ball was dropped with The Day Before
I have no knowledge of this situation, but sometimes, in creative projects, there are managers reporting to investors or bosses and they get into a terrible cycle of telling people what they want to hear and over time, this leads to lying and creating a sense of fake progression...until one day the house of cards falls. Soviet manufacturing and agriculture is a good example of something like this taking place.
In this case it's sadly just a case of Fntastic scamming people once again. They have done this with several other titles over the years and they didn't even pay their dev team, they just used volunteers.
I watched a yt video explaining that this studio is actually a group of ppl that have done this a couple time with different games. They hype a game up drop it being halfway done then they dip. Then go again with the same scheme.
It's hard to find games where the companies actually care about the players these days, most of them are just money hungry, and do whatever they can to make a little extra money.
Game was DOA once the internet collectively agreed it was a scam. They should have pivoted then but continued to dig themselves a deeper hole with just the worst communication and delays. This will be a case study of what NOT to do when creating and marketing a game, lmao
Tbh, as someone working in the game development field, I can confirm that shit can go wild really quickly. Stakeholders and publishers can fully change the direction of your game with no regard for original concept. But dropping fake trailers on your community is definitely one weird move: I know that game devs can make an "overexagerrated" trailer for publishers to get their attention, but those don't really reach people who are genuinely going to play it - it's meant to showcase what the game could be with the original concept in mind. I think this company definitely bit more than they can chew, got some investors on board who told them that extraction shooters are all the hype and they need to do it too, and the team got so afraid of disclosing a new direction to their community that they decided to roll with it, hoping nobody would notice or thinking that investor money would cover up for any backlash. But in reality, either you communicate in full, or you deliver something with no bullshit.
Not sure why you are bringing up investor pull as if this game isn't a blatant asset flip scam. The majority of the assets in the game, including the very city map that the gameplay takes place in, are all pre-built publicly sold assets that came out post 2021.
@@ShaggyRogers1 All I'm saying is that we don't know what might be happening behind the scenes. I'm not arguing with the point that the game is utterly bad in every possible aspect, but I think there is a real chance that developers did not intend it to be that way from the start. They fucked up, they created fake hype and it's entirely their fault, indeed. But also they acknowledged that the game didn't meet these expectations, and they are offering refunds to any player on Steam. Not even mentioning that there is a very high chance that they didn't make any money out of it considering Steam's developer payout policy.
@@kerlowk What are you even talking about? They lied from the very beginning. They pretended that they had a working prototype with simulated gameplay being shown in the very first trailer. At that point in time, they didn't even have a game map. We know this because the very city map that the gameplay takes place on is a $300 asset released in 2021. Half of the assets in the game were released on the UE store post 2021. Their inventory system is an engine store asset that doesn't even work properly. The entire project was an asset flip from the very start, and the trailer only looked good because Unreal Engine 5 looks good. They use pre-made assets to do a rip off of the Division trailer. Their end product straight rips off the Division down to the very UI design of the HQ. This game was a scam from the very beginning, and the first clue is that all of the developer's previous games being asset flips that were quickly abandoned after launch. Reminder: The dev released a prop hunt rip-off asset flip game WHILE they were supposedly working on the massive project that was supposed to be this game. They also have no say in the Steam refund part. EU law is what makes Steam offer refunds in the first place, and subsequently is what made Steam choose to do blanket refunds on the game to start with. The dev took the game down from the market, and so Steam was already forcing them to do a complete refund. Steam holds onto the money and delivers it to game owners on a monthly basis at the end of the month. They were never going to see that money for this scam to begin with, but like any corporate speak will act like they had a part in the process.
I like how they spent 5 years developing the game but only when they release it do they realise it’s not financially possible anymore lmao
Well yeah it's a gamble pouring all of your money into making a game just for speculating on how much you will get back on release day. They didnt make enough so theyre fucked
There's no way this game was being worked on for 5 years, more like 12-18 months, at most.
They haven't actually worked on it that much. There's virtually no difference in it now compared to 3 years ago.
I don’t believe they spent 5 years making
It’s like how cyberpunk 2077 was actually made in like 2 years
I've been waiting twenty-two years for Magical Vacation to be released on Game Boy Advance. Nintendo conned us.
It's important to remember not just the name of the failed studio Fntastic, but the names of the people who conducted the failures. Eduard and Aisen Gotovtsev are the founders of Fntastic, and it would be a disservice to all if public knowledge forgot that a company is run by people.
Run by people is one thing, taking money from the people and not fulfilling the things they said they would, makes them just greedy failures.
These "people" were lying to the public for a long time, and after taking money for their "scam" and "lies", they're now closing it. Sorry, that's pure theft, regardless of what opinion you have.
This comment needs to be at the top.
Yea you're right
This needs to be said more.
You shouldve know there was a problem when his name was spelled like “Eduard”
Makes you really appreciate how Hello Games handled the disastrous launch of No Man's Sky. They made a fat bag from that game and could've taken the money and run. But instead, they went radio silent, buckled in, and made the game an absolute banger -- everything it promised, and so much more. Obviously it'd be so much more preferable if it was like that at launch, but at least they showed integrity and an actual desire to make a game and not just a quick buck.
the guy from no man's sky went to a college i live near
@@mongrel_97no one cares dude
@@mongrel_97 I care, very cool
@@Cman1991damn who shit in your cocoa puffs bruh chillax
That game was one of my absolute favorites, unfortunately my trash console means each loading screen takes almost 30 minutes and most of the features are unavailable to me because they just crash the game. : (
"Creating games is an incredibly challenging endeavor" Did they think the game was going to make itself?💀
Unfortunately, probably. A lot of people think making a game is easy, and that it's the perfect cash machine, but forget that, yes, it's easy to make a game _that sucks_ but _incredibly_ difficult to make one that doesn't.
How would they know? They've never even tried it.
Ahh, the Bungie excuse. Apparently jobs are supposed to do themselves and people get paid for standing around.
it’s not hard to make a game that’s objectively good and fun, it’s hard to make a cost-beneficial-money-machine-guising-as-a-game that is objectively good and fun. But it’ not impossible. Lots of sports games are known for being pretty mid, yet they have lots of players and they unabashedly want you to spend all your money on digital BS and don’t care if you’re having fun.
@@kittiekillahI mean those sports games are essentially monopolies in their own category. There just isn't a lot of options for you to pick compared to many other genres like FPS, metroidvania, platform games etc.
The craziest thing is that they actually charged money to play the game. I was expecting it to be free to play considering it had no actual direction.
should I Drop out of school to BECOME the greatest artist ever❓🙏🤞
not really crazy at all. if it was free it wouldn't have been a good scam
@@GeeManFiglook man, last time we had an art student not get into school 6 million Jews died
they charged people $40 and are now claiming that any funds they collect must be used to pay debts.
putting aside everything else, releasing a half-baked product that you have no intention to support and taking money is absolutely a scam.
famous spear i love your music
The audacity for the company to literally say shit happens is insane lmaoo
Turned out to be a vampire game. The light of day killed it
The light of the day before
Red Fall 2
Using it
redfall was a bugfest and cringe fest but it was what they announced and ppl werent even interested. the day before advertised as mmo tlou2 back in 2020@@icebite9888
Damn that one is good.
Dude I feel like someone with no game development experience could with 5 years of actual hard work learn to make a game much better than this one! 😂
ok
I mean look at lethal company. Made by one dev and it's amazing. Also look at battle bit. Made by 3 and it's amazing as well.
ok
In different ways
bro it would take less than a year to learn to slap a bunch of asset packs together better than this.
Hearing this makes me appreciate the no mans sky devs more, we thought they were a scam for not having the features they mentioned in their interview but they kept their promises in the end.
That is still a scam if you buy a product based on misleading claims from the head dev. They directly lied about features that would be in the game on release up until and past the release date saying that multiplayer was possible and in the game. Stop thanking people for scamming you just because they didn't completely up and run away with the money lol.
Yeah I really appreciate their lying to customers.
"Please do not underestimate our work." Brother, we overestimated it. I thought it would at least outlive a carton of unrefrigerated milk.
Milk starts to go bad after 45 minutes of being out
😭
The fact I have had white bread last longer than this studio had is insane to me
The worst part is that theyre still walking away with millions of dollars. They sold 200k copies and only 92k people refunded last i saw. So just multiply the remaining by $40
Likely they spent more making the game than they got from sales. Some of the revenue is taxed and some is given to third parties who host a sell video games (like steam for example) and now because their game is ass, no one’s spending $40 on it lmao
Fnatics' other game "Propnight" is actually dead. You launch the game and it never connects and there is no way to play offline. Perfect example of what we need offline versions of games so when the Devs vanish overnight we can still play the games we PAID for.
The days of offline are long gone.
Like long, long gone.
@@alcidesprieto1967 no, Tears of the kingdom.
@_Tzer what else? That's Nintendo
@@alcidesprieto1967 only in triple-A land
prime prop night was lots of fun with proximity chat before all the dumb updates and BTS characters i played tons of it
I saw this theory on Twitter:
"Thanks solely to the hype generated by its (plagiarized) dream trailers, in just 4 days the game sold over 200,000 units, including only 90,000 refunds.
At $39.99 a game, this represents sales of around $4.4 million.
That's $3.5 million pocketed in 4 days, even after Steam's 20% commission. Even though everyone had warned the public from the start that this was a Scam."
The number is closer to 2 millions due to regional prices, we would need more precise information of regions that bought the game
steam takes 30 percent I thought
@@alksonalex186 Yes, the numbers probably aren't exact, but I think what he meant was that the "studio" is counting on the general public's laziness/ignorance about the fact that they can get reimbursed, to make a profit.
I’m not entirely sure how Steam is but I have heard that Steam doesn’t pay them right away and I think they get paid every month on the 30th, so hopefully this gets delisted quickly and everyone gets their full money back.
@@arsenal4739 I'm pretty sure, you have to ask for a refund, even if the game is delisted, it's not automatic.
the "studio" is counting on the general public's laziness/ignorance about the fact that they can get a refund, to make a profit.
Damn. I respected Sean Murray a lot more now. Kudos to him and Hello Games for enduring lots of criticism and being able to flourish.
At least No Man's Sky was the same game (well like 15%) that was promised. The Day Before isn't even the same genre from what they said it would be.
The fact that so many people actually bought this shovelware is proof this will keep happening. The consumers won’t learn
For real. I don't even feel sorry for gamers anymore. Everything bad about the game industry is a direct result of gamers actions, period.
@@Aliothale I feel sorry for the kids who got scammed, it's a hard lesson to learn. But for the adults it's straight up comedy.
A large enough minority to be scammed will always exist. Phone scammers target old people, shovelware targets the gamers under a rock/ignorant.
It blows my mind how companies think they can just delete/private everything and pretend like nothing ever happened, this has never worked, ever.
I’m 100% better than Charlie
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
Anyone else finding Charlie content is same and borin.
you'd really think they'd be aware of the Streisand Effect by now
@@SussyGabrielOFFICIAL 100% not
0:25 it is not a editing mistake its charlie giving us time to self reflect by surprising us with our own reflection through a black screen. so poetic.
I don’t really play it but No Man Sky Developers deserve huge respect they actually apologised and made the game they promised a few years later rather than shutting their entire studios down and they were looking the other way and it payed off. :)
In fairness to No Man's Sky the devs said it wasn't ready but fans kept demanding the product.
The NMS developer still have the trust from some of the fans.
Fntastic on the other side definitely lied even before the game launched
@@knight838_pretty sure it was more of a publisher issue
yeah! I'm glad it all worked out. I've had fun with it, definitely a complete game now
Same with CDPR. After the Cyberpunk 2077 disaster, they apologized, they refunded to the customers and they fixed it. Even with still having bugs but at least it's better than before and they also make the game relevant again thanks to Edgerunner anime and also with Phanton Liberty which is either the DLC or Expansion of the game.
Also, after looking the comparison of Cyberpunk and Starfield on TH-cam, you will appreciate Cyberpunk more from the gameplay, cutscenes, NPCs, combat and even the environment.
The only conclusion I can draw is that they did originally set out to make an MMO, but then early on in development they started realizing how monumentally challenging an MMO actually is to create, so they pivoted to an extraction shooter without telling anyone and hoped nobody would care.
Or you look at their other games and see all the obvious bot reviews and realize they have been scamming people for almost a decade.
No what they did was steal or copy all the ideas from an old flash mmo game called the last stand dead zone they both play the same exact way except dead zone was better than this
That zombie game that 1 Chinese dev made was way better than this and it was free 😂
Nah they never intended to make anything at all they threw an asset flip together in a few days to scam people this company are scammers factually and theyre luckily not getting away with the money
nah, they originally designed it to be a scam. all the trailers screamed scam all the time lol
The fact they shut down to avoid a law suit I’m guessing. I really hope the lawsuit still goes through and these people get there money back. This sets a dangerous precedent for gaming
Why? It's not like taxes where you are forced to pay. No one forces you to buy a game before it launches. Stop being such a drama queen.
@@buca9696 It’s not about the people who bought the game, it’s about the people who donated to the kickstarter when the game was being developed. A lot of stuff was promised that never happened. And it’s people like you that feed into the lies from developers that enable them to keep fucking us over. But yeah, I will be a drama queen for a scam that cost people millions over the last couple of years.
@@buca9696 Just lap up that slop and continue making the gaming industry terrible, consoomer.
Dude, it's a russian company, no one will sue them, there's no law in russia whatsoever :)
Game bad
Don't be mad
The fact they even threw something together in such a short period of time makes me think they had this planned out from the very beginning
They did. The entire map, inventory system, like 99% of the game was built using Unreal Engine assets -- most of which were released in the past few years. Meaning that they didn't even have a map, inventory system, etc until at least 2021 -- purportedly 3 years into "development."
There are going to be some internet historians digging into this mess and making like 2 hour long videos within a month or two. There's so much going on behind the curtains that has been dug up since launch, it's hilarious
I don’t know why people don’t realize this. This game was totally a pump and dump from the beginning
They did. Not only that, but they used AI to create this announcement. I ran the text using an AI checker and it said 72% of it is AI generated. 🤣
@@RandelYoung You do know that those ai checkers are a scam right? (Hoping this is a whoosh moment for me)
@@RandelYoung That doesn't mean anything, the 10 commandments are considered 79% AI generated.
They used the fake trailers to generate excitement knowing that a large portion of people would buy the game with the actual real gameplay sight unseen regardless. And it was a genius scumbag tactic that worked all the way to the bank
It didn't work thats why they're bankrupt now
Steam, like any other online store releases payments monthly so they didn't laughed anywhere, they probably were hopping for less uproar so they could take the bag and run but they couldn't hense why they throw in the towel.
@@jorgeloredo100 they stand to make away with at least 1.5 million dollars unless all purchases are refunded not just the 2 hour refunds. Hopefully they do as they have said and refund anyone who wants one. What a disgraceful disaster
I’d highly recommend KiraTV’s videos on this “company” and their shady dealings. There’s so much more they tried to get away with that he constantly sheds light on. This conclusion is almost foretold given their past.
This game was meant to show you what a video game would look like if it was made in a post-apocalyptic environment.
The division has done that. Years before. That's as post apocalyptic as it can get
AHAH good wordplay lmao
@@ghostkilla931Alright, let me explain the joke to you.
The joke is that this game is supposed to show you what games in a post-apocalyptic world could be like.
Not a game that takes place in one, but a game created in one.
So hasn't Fallout LONG before Division...but that's not what op is saying.@@ghostkilla931
u missed the mark@@ghostkilla931
Someone on the steam comments had posted all the unreal asset packs that made up the game either hardly or not changed at all. It was a quick asset flip thrown together.
It's just a quick cash grab. It worked
Most of the assets were made after 2021, 3 years into their '5 year development'.
@@jeremyeyles735to be fair, big AAA games can go through a several year “concept/pre production” phase before any actual development begins… but yeah, this case is just a blatant scam and bail
@@jeremyeyles735 The City map itself wasn't even released on the storefront until 2021. Don't ask me how you are supposed to be developing a game for 3 years but not even have a gameplay environment to actually test.....
They were probably betting it would sell at least half as many copies in their wishlist but its so odd they pulled the plug so fast, you'd think they would at least wait a month to ensure at least a few thousand more sales, maybe sales fell like 99% by the 3rd day so they thought it was time to jump ship?
A lot of returns
Maybe there is genuine regret about all the lies, still very misleding
nah it was probably a last cash grab attempt, a company can't just shut down that fast
Charlie's vedios are all useless topics
It went from the most wishlisted to most refunded game in the space of like 36 hours 😂
Nobody caught this 1:32
What said depressed the heck outta me,
"We really wanted to release new patches to reveal the full potential of the game, but unfortunately, we don't have the funding to continue the work" Direct quote from Fantastic.
Horrifying yet common place, game incomplete at launch and AAA game studios unwilling or unable to promise anyone a full game on release, and expect people to buy a broken game only to fund them further so they actually feel like finishing it.
This is not ok, anyone who doesn't care about this doesn't care about video games.
Exactly. Ignore any comments that go "why should I care 🥱" cause they are boring trolls.
You really had me in the first half, I thought you were gonna say it's tragic no one was willing to fund them🤣
Pls don't give these guys the credit of thinking they're a triple-A studio.
They're a no-name studio from literal Siberia.
This is not a triple a studio lol and how do you expect an indie studio that already fucked up by putting all of their money into the game to continue if they couldnt finish it? I think we all would do that same thing
the fact that you are even calling the studio a AAA game studio is the problem with gaming 🤣
Charlie citing Merriam-Webster is exactly like the scene in Avengers: Endgame where all The Avengers return to fight Thanos and his army.
This is the literal definition of bankruptcy speedrun any% WR
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
I’m 100% better than Charlie
Anyone else finding Charlie content is same and borin.
should I Drop out of school to BECOME the greatest artist ever❓🙏🤞
They dethroned blockbuster
I've been watching TheRadBrad for about 11 years now, and this is the first time I remember him refunding a game.
Stop watching him as soon as he ruined the waking dead with Kenny as a thumbnail
@@josetiscareno5375that’s a hell of a grudge, lol.
@@josetiscareno5375no one cares mate. You’re literally a no body
I wish someone makes a game similar to the trailers and says something like “this isn’t just fantastic, this is real” in the actual gameplay trailer.
When I hear the word "fantastic" I think of the character named Fantastic from Fallout New Vegas. Just like Fntastic, he is a scammer that pretends to be competent in order to get trusted enough to be put in charge of something he has no right touching. The developers of The Day Before definitely also have a theoretical degree in physics
"They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard."
they really saw mobile games ads and said "hey let's do that with a real game"
Yeah, it was a surprise that we got a game after all, but as Charlie said, we weren't expecting for them to release new patches. Fun fact, they are using the "we didn't do crowdfundings, or took money from players" card because that's what they did with their first game, it was crowdfunded. And yes, only a couple of months after the early access release they abandoned the game.
It would be funny if the source code leaks, and a bunch of people fix the entire game and easily make it look like the fake trailers and end up being really good
Cope
You don't need the source code.... The entire "game" is just a pile of pre-built assets and object behavior. A college student with a credit card could recreate this game 1 for 1 as a senior project for class and come up with the exact same outcome. The closest to anything "hand built" in the "game" is their direct rip-off of the Division HQ, UI and all.
"Source code" is a hilarious use of words when it comes to this game.
@@88balloonsonthewall70 the source code is a 16 digit CC number with matching 3 digit security. The code!
If no ones bothering to make mods for Starfield I doubt anyone will do Fntastic the favour either.
Who would've thought that the company with an extensive history of abandoning games has, yet again, abandoned a game. Like people had a whole YEAR of everyone warning them "do not buy this game, it is a scam" and yet they still bought into it. I do not feel bad for them.
What history of abandoning games are you talking about? Please tell me. I only know about Propnight being one of their biggest games and that actually got a bunch of cool updates. It just seems like you heard that from someone and didnt bother researching that claim
Hype kiddies
You know not everyone who buys a game learns everything about it before purchasing. If from the advertisements a game looks good and people buy it only to find that the advertisements were misleading, then I do feel bad for them.
@@snarpking The rating on steam are right on the top of the page, why would someone buy a game that is immediately rated as "overwhelmingly negative"? It's their own fault at that point.
They didn't even have gameplay either like WTF WERE THEY HYPED FOR?
With games like we have now coming out made by single devs with passion, that are way better than AAA companies are pushing out the door these days, there should be absolutely no reason a game should come out like this of there's at least 2 people behind it
Now, I'm no game publisher, but I've heard that getting money from Steam sales isn't instant. On top of that, Steam was extremely generous and letting everyone who had the game refund it as the thing was an obvious cash grab and was a very public disaster...
I think they always intended to take the money and bounce, but something behind the scenes has happened with Steam and they aren't likely to cash out. So that's something at least.
Gotta love steam
That's a big w from steam.
Actually see the reason why steams profit isn't instant like many companies is because they can put that money in a bank and draw interest. So technically they helped them scam people for a good hot minute and knew exactly what they were doing.
@@CosplayZine source: trust me bro
Whats the interest of holding 200 000 for 4 days? $0.6?@CosplayZine
Shoutout to that 1 person who didn’t believe in them. That person is the real MVP. They called it.
It's called "theft by deception".
When you lie and mislead someone in order to get money or items from them.
This is exactly what they did. They'll be sued into oblivion.
This Russian company isnt getting sued by anyone my man lol
one can hope they will but i dunno how easy it would be seeing as its a International company.
@@Sniperbear13Well they're not based in international waters, my friend. They have to live somewhere. I'm sure a quick Google search would give you an idea of where to file 🤣
@@Exeeter1234Singapore. But, close enough I guess? 🤔
@@Distant_INC but then which laws apply? i don't know if US laws would apply if you filed a lawsuit.
You know what's crazy? The completionist threatening to sue two other youtubers because they found out his team was holding charity funds
Saw that video, and it’s a big doozy
there needs to be something put in place for companies that are just lying in trailers before release even if its to do with how it looks graphics while then downgrading on release.
Maybe
I'd support that. Shit look at warcraft reforged, they showed a remade cut scene at their blizzcon thing for it then removed the remade cut scene before actually releasing the game. They promised all new scenes, missions, more lore for side character. Yet all we got was more bugs/ crashes that hadn't existed prior to reforged, lost the rights to our own ideas if we make them in the custom campaign stuff. Also lost all the custom maps that had existed and yeah that was horrid. But hey they promised so much at the start then just shat on everyone on release.
@@erikschaeffer8419 Yeah but thats Blizzard. They are okay with doing scum shit
I feel like not only they didn’t get a ton of big investors, they also had a decent bit of skeptics when the first trailer dropped and the longer the time went on more skeptics kept growing. That definitely I feel added to the money issue.
No dude..... ROFL.
There was never a fucking money issue. This shit was built to rob from the very start. There was never an actual attempt to create a worthwhile product. Investors where never in the equation man 🤣😂😂🤣
i bet some freelancers signed that contract and now will have to willfully disengage that memory from their minds. i feel you, godspeed friends
I will say Propnight was super fun when it first came out. It's still enjoyable now. Coming from Propnight the writing was on the wall that they could never do what they promised in The Day Before.
Some of the assets they purchased werent available until this past year. They probably cobbled this together in the last 16 months or so.
Without the title, I already know what game they are talking about 💀
should I Drop out of school to BECOME the greatest artist ever❓🙏🤞
absolutely not, wil not work out@@GeeManFig
This whole video is a scam without Charlie’s beautiful smile
I know right
couldnt even edge to this😮! EXPLODED IMMEDIATELY. cleanup on isle MY PANTS!!🤣🤣
Poop boi
True, because Opera is spyware
Dude! 😂
This game has to live. It has to live as a reminder of this situation. Crack it, pirate it and keep it around, to not let any company to get away with this again.
"the day before" sums up the amount of effort that went into it
Just wanna drop this here, they have gone through some of their old games and changed the dev name from FNTASTIC to Eight Points, so they're trying to slip away under a new name.
"**Insert topic here** Situation is Crazy" always makes me giggle lol.
I remember reading that only about 1 in 30 people leave a review on steam. That means Scam Game potentially sold 633k copies. Thats a lot of money to cut and run with
You know you're in for a certified banger when a video starts with a definition by Mirriam Webster. It feels like I'm just sitting in for a Community College freshman debate panel.
I like that you bought a cameo for your sponsor xD most people that get sponsored only use words and editing. This shows you quiet like sponsors and you're serious about them! well done.
I’ve been waiting for this since I heard the news
My bf was pissed. He told me to smack him the next time he even utters the word "pre-order". Luckily, the game crashed when he attempted to change the resolution- He took that as a sign before the 2 hour window expired.
Did he listen to anything about the game ? Plenty of people saw the writing on the walls pretty early.
@@Gatorade69bump lol, like seriously 😅
You need a new bf
He was under the assumption it wasn't going to go well... sometimes you just can't help yourself. I get it. I'm sure you do also if you're honest with yourselves, but that's a rare quality, one my bf doesn't even possess. At least it's the evil I know ;)
@@IrieRogue I'm sure lots of people thought it was a fake game that would never come out and when it actually launched they were intrigued to see just how bad it is.
"I have never seen a company give up this quickly"
Ever heard of The Culling 2? Barely lasted a single day.
You can also count on game companies being greedy piles of slop, these companies that dont actually care about games need to go out of business.
I’m 100% better than Charlie
Yea really
Very much agree to this. I don't really see any game company make actual passion filled games. Just cash grabs and old reused material cause no one knows how to make games for fun and passion anymore. Sad these days.
@@erikschaeffer8419You don’t play enough games. If you did you wouldn’t be saying this
@@erikschaeffer8419play more games and not just products from triple aaa studios
Everyone gon be searching like guard dogs for em 💀
Releases game, generates millions of dollars, "Ohhhh we ran out of money in 4 days... bye!", proceeds to wipe existence from the internet.
All I can hope for this game is somebody manages to crack it, share it across the internet, an independent studio flips it, and turns it into a masterpiece somehow
Which will probably never happen
It's all just a bunch of bought assets from the Unreal store. everything is out there already.
@@88balloonsonthewall70 precisely why it will never happen
@@tobithesergal It will never happen because there is no need to crack the game?
The insane thing was Propnight was a bit unfinished on release, but it was a decent game.
another asset flip but at least they had some sort of gameplay developed
ok, I'm not really good at english
and I couldn't really understand full explanation that he gave us.
I just wanna ask is that propnight is still gonna be operational or the game is gonna shut down to?
@@sahilkumawat4965 It's going to shut down too. "At the moment, the future of The Day before and Propnight is unknown, but the servers will repain operational."
P much they sound like they secured an x amount of time for paid servers until they will pull the plug completely.
@sahilkumawat4965 another comment said that they tried to launch the game, and its no longer active. Ironically, their apology/goodbye letter claimed that wouldn't happen, and the servers would remain open.
The Wild Eight had good premises to become pretty cool indie game, but it was similarly abandoned right after release.
It doesn’t even deserve to be called its name, just Scam Game
God I look forward to this every time I get off
i am begging you to reword this
Get off work? Me to bro haha
Giggity...
@@echomics1278 Pause
@@joelmalligan1540 yes
Just want to say Charlie thank you for being a epic dude and reporting on these situations i just want to say thanks man love to see a new vid from you always makes my day love you bro keep doing what your doing
If you ever played the “The Wild Eight”, you would of seen this coming from 2017.
The fact that they didn't just wait until the holidays means sales must have REALLY plummeted
Speedrun how to make a game somehow worse than King Kong and Gollum before 2023 ends
THEORY: The devs were a bunch of childhood friends with wealthy white-collar dads that never understood their passion for gaming. The friends convince their fathers for loans to create their game, but dads cheap-out. The devs also do realize they were in far over their heads trying to make the game. It all adds up.
Unbelievable how fast they turn ship and hide their tails once they come under fire.
I’m 100% better than Charlie
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
Anyone else is so over with Charlie content???
should I Drop out of school to BECOME the greatest artist ever❓🙏🤞
Buddy they ran out of money. They aren't a bunch of nefarious and devious scammers. They're just shitty game developers. A bunch of dorks who thought they were making something awesome when really it was trash. Like how 14 year olds do when they make their first video game. Some people do that shit as adults. They weren't trying to scam people and they aren't running away not that they're being called out. They're just bad developers who released a bad game and now the money has run dry and they're done for.
But at least we got to meet the legend known as Jeff thanks to this game!
I’m 100% better than Charlie
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
Anyone else finding Charlie content is same and borin.
my guy, i sincerely apologize for the sheer number of bots on your comment
Who the heck is Jeff?
"We didn't take any money BEFORE we sold you the faulty product therefore we are not a scam"
0:55 didn't age well, looking at you, Concord
Yeah i am surprised people were caught off guard by the scam. Hopefully eveyone gets their refunds tho
The game was truly made the Day Before...
This makes me wonder how Star Citizen will go...
The company is actually pronounced 'Funtastic,' btw, and their game Prop Night was actually something of a junior juggernaut in its niche area of horror asym for a time, largely because of the work put in to reinvent the game when it got stale and keep it alive on the part of their dev team. Not sure where the ball was dropped with The Day Before
When he's serious, he's serious look at him
They couldn't even complete spelling their company name let alone a whole video game
Ngl i wouldnt be surprised if this keeps happening with game companies
I have no knowledge of this situation, but sometimes, in creative projects, there are managers reporting to investors or bosses and they get into a terrible cycle of telling people what they want to hear and over time, this leads to lying and creating a sense of fake progression...until one day the house of cards falls. Soviet manufacturing and agriculture is a good example of something like this taking place.
In this case it's sadly just a case of Fntastic scamming people once again. They have done this with several other titles over the years and they didn't even pay their dev team, they just used volunteers.
@@88balloonsonthewall70 so straight up scam...sad but all too common. Thank you
I watched a yt video explaining that this studio is actually a group of ppl that have done this a couple time with different games. They hype a game up drop it being halfway done then they dip. Then go again with the same scheme.
It's hard to find games where the companies actually care about the players these days, most of them are just money hungry, and do whatever they can to make a little extra money.
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
I’m 100% better than Charlie
@@quartdude shut the hell up
Charlie content is boring.
these bots are getting outta hand
I think hamburgers and cheeseburgers work well with fries.
Dude I had a dream that Charlie knew ASL and signed while talking in all of his videos 😭 it was really cool
We're now the day after.
"Please do not call us scammers"
-The scammers
Game was DOA once the internet collectively agreed it was a scam. They should have pivoted then but continued to dig themselves a deeper hole with just the worst communication and delays. This will be a case study of what NOT to do when creating and marketing a game, lmao
Truly one of the games of all time
npc comment
Couldn’t even edge to this, I exploded immediately!!! Clean up on aisle MY PANTS 😂😂😂😂@MrDJ2007
This is the perfect opportunity for some studio to make an ACTUAL open world zombie game and call it “The Day After”
Probably a better game than MW3 2.5 hr campaign built from recycled assets costing $70
Didn't opera gx get exposed for stealing its users personal data or something? (I COULD BE WRONG just remembered my friend talking about it)
They did. And I don't know why the FUCK he's still promoting that garbage.
@@kennyalwaysdies1yea coming from Charlie ts is surprising on top of that bro is tryna call out a bad company yet he’s promoting opera
RIP Jeff, you were too good for this crap game.
The Day Before is actually a good name for the game because, This game was made the day before release
Opera GX steals your data but go off sister
So as Google
Tbh, as someone working in the game development field, I can confirm that shit can go wild really quickly. Stakeholders and publishers can fully change the direction of your game with no regard for original concept. But dropping fake trailers on your community is definitely one weird move: I know that game devs can make an "overexagerrated" trailer for publishers to get their attention, but those don't really reach people who are genuinely going to play it - it's meant to showcase what the game could be with the original concept in mind.
I think this company definitely bit more than they can chew, got some investors on board who told them that extraction shooters are all the hype and they need to do it too, and the team got so afraid of disclosing a new direction to their community that they decided to roll with it, hoping nobody would notice or thinking that investor money would cover up for any backlash. But in reality, either you communicate in full, or you deliver something with no bullshit.
Not sure why you are bringing up investor pull as if this game isn't a blatant asset flip scam. The majority of the assets in the game, including the very city map that the gameplay takes place in, are all pre-built publicly sold assets that came out post 2021.
@@ShaggyRogers1 All I'm saying is that we don't know what might be happening behind the scenes. I'm not arguing with the point that the game is utterly bad in every possible aspect, but I think there is a real chance that developers did not intend it to be that way from the start.
They fucked up, they created fake hype and it's entirely their fault, indeed. But also they acknowledged that the game didn't meet these expectations, and they are offering refunds to any player on Steam. Not even mentioning that there is a very high chance that they didn't make any money out of it considering Steam's developer payout policy.
@@kerlowk What are you even talking about? They lied from the very beginning. They pretended that they had a working prototype with simulated gameplay being shown in the very first trailer. At that point in time, they didn't even have a game map. We know this because the very city map that the gameplay takes place on is a $300 asset released in 2021. Half of the assets in the game were released on the UE store post 2021. Their inventory system is an engine store asset that doesn't even work properly.
The entire project was an asset flip from the very start, and the trailer only looked good because Unreal Engine 5 looks good. They use pre-made assets to do a rip off of the Division trailer. Their end product straight rips off the Division down to the very UI design of the HQ.
This game was a scam from the very beginning, and the first clue is that all of the developer's previous games being asset flips that were quickly abandoned after launch. Reminder: The dev released a prop hunt rip-off asset flip game WHILE they were supposedly working on the massive project that was supposed to be this game.
They also have no say in the Steam refund part. EU law is what makes Steam offer refunds in the first place, and subsequently is what made Steam choose to do blanket refunds on the game to start with. The dev took the game down from the market, and so Steam was already forcing them to do a complete refund. Steam holds onto the money and delivers it to game owners on a monthly basis at the end of the month. They were never going to see that money for this scam to begin with, but like any corporate speak will act like they had a part in the process.
Reminds me of that South Park episode when Kyle puts his money in a bank "and it's gone." 😂
wow this scam game situation is crazy !!
Crazy? I was crazy once