Something I also really like about TH-cam is the ability to NOT immediately go live when you press Start Streaming in OBS. This allows you to preview your stream to yourself first before going live publicly, checking bitrate quality, delay, connection etc. ...it also helps when you accidentally misclicked Start Streaming when you wanted to record offline
Another feature that Charlie did not mention is the ability to schedule streams (up to a year from now). Charlie doesn't really use this since he just goes live whenever he wants to but creating a scheduled stream HELPS A LOT in terms of notifying and reminding your viewers about your stream. Scheduled streams notifies subscribers like an hour or half an hour before the stream starts and notifies again once the streamer goes live. Going live out of nowhere somehow reduces the chance of this notifications to work and I hope YT fixes that but scheduling your stream really helps.
One thing Charlie overlooked is the stream consistency from the viewer side. If you don't have good internet a TH-cam stream is waaay better than twitch
very good point. and i think having built in rewind and forward helps a lot with that as well. you can pause and let it buffer and then resume without having to "catch up" immediately
One thing I like about TH-cam streaming is that streamers can schedule their streams. So it pops up on the viewers subscribe tab. So it’s good for streamers with a schedule. Plus it also creates a waiting room for Chatters. But like Charlie said, it’s only good for people that are already subscribed, not for discoverability.
i value the scheduled stream thing a LOT because it helps with me being able to determine if i will be available to watch it or not, i really dont like randomly checking if people are live since i dont use notifications on anything since i dont want a million emails
just make some random relevant topical videos, make a video essay, make some funny edits etc. its really not that difficult. i dont get the ONLY streaming thing, like why limit yourself lol. twitch doesnt even give the option for discoverability like creating youtube videos does, 98% of twitch is people with 0 - 5 viewers and they have to keep going live all the time for nothing praying a bigger streamer will raid them or notice them.
As a long term TH-cam denizen, I am very happy to see another major creator livestreaming regularly on the platform. I do think TH-cam would benefit from more emotes being integrated and developing a whole new recommendation system for streamers. I do however think twitch is too restricted, has too many ads, has a terrible app experience, and has a vastly inferior vod system. It seems like only some vods end up on that obscure vod tab on twitch. With TH-cam, they show up perfectly just like videos. And of course they don't have the rewind feature.
@@OfficiallySnekdon’t count on it but you can always count on getting a lil silly jump scare from Charlie every once in a while, I love the stream thumbnails 😂
I would really love to see TH-cam make their livestream theater mode better for desktop and mobile, imo that'd make the viewing experience a lot better
@@browntint Ah, that makes sense. One thing I did think of was you can't really look at chat and also look at the screen on desktop either. Even though there's generally ample room.
@@slsthewriter1299 Yeah, I haven't watched many youtube streams, but having to scroll down to see/type in chat is not ideal. Twitch does this far better.
as far as memberships go, being in the vtuber community has shown me that they are more individualistic than sub's from twitch. they're more like tightknit communities for their respective streamers, than a general means of support. if you're in the know its very identifiable. Investigators for Ame's members, Chumbuds for Gura, Irystocrats for Irys, ect. it functions more as a mini patreon. or at least thast what its used for by them.
This. It also gives you access to the membership tab where we can get extra perks. And even if you don’t support, the community tab is just as good. No point in using other social media platforms.
Another thing you didn’t mention: The ads themselves on TH-cam are far less frequent and intrusive to the streaming experience in comparison to Twitch. Like, Twitch will literally shove 4 ads at a time down your throat every few minutes. It’s a genuine turn-off for me, and I have no clue how people don’t take issue with this more.
plus for like 20 bucks a month(for premium) which I have anyway cus I don't like ads in normal videos, I don't have to watch any ads anywhere on the website
I really think if TH-cam focused on the streaming side of things, they could easily overtake Twitch. It really just seems TH-cam isn't that interested in streaming.
@iwannafunny5130 For me, that's just throwing money at something. Which I'm glad they are; and they seem to have strategized on who to get better than Mixer. But what I think they really need to do is focus on frequent updates. There are some basic quality of life changes (some mentioned in the video) that we've been asking for years, and they are still not here. Any great things about TH-cam streaming are just from the video side of things (ad density, thumbnails). They just really need to focus on streaming, and it can easily surpass Twitch; but I think overall, they're just focused on the video side of things.
My personal take is that TH-cam will never be the dominant streaming platform, at least not for anything outside of official government or world events. I don’t know about you guys, maybe it’s just me, but I use TH-cam for Videos and I (don’t anymore) use Twitch for streams. It’s more fundamental than the actual creator itself, it’s like playing pc games on a tv. Like in general there is no difference, but I won’t do it
What I’ve found helps on TH-cam is scheduling your streams. The upcoming stream gets pushed out giving your subscribers and new ppl a chance to turn on notifications for those specific streams.
Not having a culture like twitch isn't a bad thing. I like the idea of chat culture that is more channel specific fostered by the creators instead of every streamer talking the same
This, so much. There are people I want to watch that are only on Twtich but I stopped watching because the chat culture has evolved into something I'm just not a fan of, like when streamers use TTS to read bit messages. I already thought bits were a bit intrusive but it's so annoying for the streamer to be talking about something, having an interesting conversation and then they have to either stop or talk over the random donation message forcing in their joke. There are some chats on YT I'm not big on, but that's bc of the culture specific to that streamer (even if I like the streamer), but this also means every streamer having a different feel in the chat adds to the streamer's identity imo.
On his TH-cam streams his chat is just filled with “lol” “lmao” and fart jokes it’s so childish and boring. It feels like his twitch viewers were drowned out by his TH-cam subs
This, exactly this! The reason I never got into to Twitch is because I wasn't vibing with that specific culture but it's so tight-knit that as a newcomer you can't imagine fostering your own thing. It's either hop on the bandwagon or f*ck off. So while the Twitch culture and the whole "we are like a family"-thing is one the platforms biggest pros it can at times be a huge con too, it's like an organically grown gatekeeper.
charlie's ability give credit where credit is due while also giving genuine critique in a constructive way is what makes him such a force as a commentator
I feel like he's just explaining it fairly and you're only saying that because most people make bad faith or biased arguments. (nothing towards charlie, just my 2 cents)
What makes Charlie apealing is the fact that he is so genuine. He's kind of an everyman. He looks at things from multiple perspectives, forms an oppinion, and lays it all out for us as the viewer. This allows us to form an oppinion of our own when it comes to toppics like this. He doesn't deserve to be put on a pedestal because of this, but the sad reality is that Charlie is a breath of fresh air between most of the BS you see online nowadays.
It's the ever so chill attitude as well. Never have I had to reach for the volume down button on my keyboard within two seconds of opening one of his videos - unlike many youtubers
Honestly you made this video at a perfect time for me, kinda crazy. This is the exact question ive been asking others what i should do. You kinda solidified TH-cam pretty well for me ngl. Especially since I wont be streaming daily, and wanna do event based streams.
being able to rewind the stream is soooo nice. I love being able to start a stream that i'm late to from the beginning or pausing a stream if I have to get up and watching at 2x until I catch up
It's insane that youtube bitrate is higher and on lower end devices the experience is still smoother just because of youtube's transcoding, which twitch only offers to partners and trickles down to affiliates.
@@Tensentities forget the ad-pocalyps from a few years ago, we’ve been in the bot-pocalyps for months now. I can’t figure out why TH-cam hasn’t put a stop to it by now. It’s not like TH-cam is profiting off it in any way. It changes nothing with monetization, it just actively makes the platform worse.
I'm very glad you brought up the rewind component. It is singlehandedly why I will always prefer watching esports (specifically RLCS) on youtube when they go live. It allows me to multitask since I don't have to constantly be glued to the screen in fear that I'll miss a big play or moment. On twitch you can still go back but the process is tedious as hell while on youtube you can do it with a press of the left arrow key on your keyboard.
@@morganwalz3938technically yes but you have to close the livestream and load the vod separately. Kinda pathetic on twitch's end when tv providers have made literal remote controls for decades now.
One of the few positive things about Twitch is live discoverability and even that is awful for small streamers. When you don't have many viewers, you're pushed to the very bottom of the list and you're effectively invisible. When I switched to Twitch, 99% of my chatters still found me through TH-cam. Offline discoverability on TH-cam usually hard carries small streamers imo
*As a TH-cam streamer. More folks watch the VOD of the stream than the actual stream. That’s where the discoverablity actually happens. Which is also why there’s no streaming culture. Since most audiences treat streams like other videos* Edit: *Advice for new streamers that choose TH-cam. Treat your streams more like a let’s play than twitch stream.*
@@MrGyrations When he said you can just check in and watch a stream on Twitch I laughed, there is at least one 3 minute in skippable ad. I hate that feature so much that’s why I hate Twitch.
Exactly, there's been like a total of 5ish streamers I've found on this platform by watching their streams live (and only one of them since the virus). The rest of them I found by watching the vods.
I was genuinely happy to see Charlie on TH-camr over Twitch. I hate using Twitch and never like to go out of my way to watch even people I like on there. I'm glad that it's healthier for you mentally too. Everyone wins.
Just wanna say that for the ability to go back on a stream, the streamer has to make sure the Enable DVR button is on in the TH-cam live dashboard (which, smartly, is on by default), but there are streamers that turned this off and with it off, the ability to rewind a stream is taken off. As to why some streamers turn this off, I imagine it's so that the stream will always be up to the current moment instead of lagged behind cos when a viewer watches a stream and it buffers because of their bad connection, when the stream reconnects, the stream continues where the viewer was left off so the viewer then would be lagged behind in the stream even though chat was moving according to the current time of the stream itself, with the Enable DVR button off, when the viewer reconnects to the stream, the stream would jump to the current moment of the stream itself of being lagged behind. This is my theory as to why some streamers turn it off, I myself always enable the DVR cos the ability to rewind a stream while it's live is just easy access for the viewers too, plus, if they wanna get back to current, just click the "Live" part in the scrubber and you'll be jumped to the current moment of the stream.
I've seen 2 streamers specifically turn this feature off to test how the experience is for a stream or two. The viewers hated it and they immediately turned the feature back on. The reason for turning it off: "we streamers don't like seeing chat comments from stuff that happened a while ago". So it's really a selfish thing for the streamers to have a clean current chat full of up to date chatting. The best thing for viewing experience is to give people the option of watching live, or rewinding a bit to what they missed, and most people with a brain know to not chat about old stuff if they are rewinded by like an hour.
Didn't expect I'd see Charlie make a video like this but honestly I like Twitch and TH-cam for their own reasons but I wish there was a way to mix both.
As a person who has streamed on twitch and youtube, I found that you get the most interactions as a new streamer with "playing with viewers" tag on. I used to do a smash bros arena every 2 days for new people to come in and follow and for a 3 months, I gained up to 100 followers. Then I looked at a video telling me that youtube was a better option and friends told me to check out youtube as well and I thought why not give it a try. I had less than half of my audience follow my transfer to youtube and twitch deleted my acc too (oddly enough, idk why. I didn't have a contract). TH-cam was a little slower than twitch but sometimes if you have the right idea, you might spark something. I made a stream of doing a smash bros tournament with all the amiibos I had trained on twitch, edited it down, and went from averaging 50s to 300 views, then getting this 5k view video which was way better than anything I've gotten from twitch. Safe to say I found my place on youtube
Im glad you started streaming on YT, been really enjoyable hopping in and watching you undergo your shiengians. If i miss a stream I'll just listen next day as I work, thanks for the constant content legend.
I just want to jump in here on the discoverability side, as someone who is a "nobody" streamer and been trying this for years on both platforms. My twitch was a graveyard of people stopping by, 0-2 views on a 10 hour span. Here on YT, I average 20 views per stream and I usually go for 3 hours. Now these are some small numbers but its a literal 1000% view count boost. I honestly see YT as a better growth platform especially if you also make vids, music, and other content. Just my two cents from a tiny blip in the streaming space.
This is honestly a very insightful video. Whether you stream or not, its good as a new viewer of either platform to have a better understanding of what to expect accessibility wise.
I like it when someone is able to use language in your sarcastic but very on point way. Like every other sentence sounds polished, I wish more people were able to express themselves like that...😢
Being able to go back while watching the live, instead of going to the channel and looking for the vod, it's one thing I would like to see implemented on twitch
TH-cam needs their own live tab. They have home, subscriptions, shorts, and library. How do they not have a dedicated live tab for streamers and browse catalogue for games?
The discoverability argument is really strange considering I watched a TH-cam essay on how only the top twitch streamers really get promoted because it's what makes the website the most money
For TH-cam, you have to add an add-on to your browser to fix the emote issue. Nairo has this on his channel, and it is amazing. Plus, there is a streaming mode add on too which fixes the video and chat placement format.
The idea of editing a thumbnail turned out very good. A lot of times I just check a video or stream because of the thumbnail. I also know ppl prepare thumbnails in Photoshop for regular streams. It makes it look a little more professional ngl
coke was designed before refrigeration so it is best consumed warm as that is what it was designed to be. pepsi was designed after refrigeration and had it in mind when developing the soda. so warm coke and cold pepsi will taste similar compared to either both cold or warm.
My conspiracy theory is that TH-cam has purposefully designed chat to be unreadable so as to encourage viewers to spend money so the streamer is able to read their message
One thing I do love about YT Streaming is the VODs are permanent with choice to private, unlist, or simply publish, in Twitch, it only lasts a few weeks.
another thing about memberships that he didn't mention, is that membership emotes can only be used in that specific streamer's chat, which really limits their use, whereas on twitch, you can use subscription emotes in any chat, allowing them to function as mini advertisements for a streamer and encourages better emotes overall, since obviously you'd want your paid emotes to look as good as possible since you never know who will see them
As someone who has never downloaded twitch and never been entertained by streaming content, I’ve always enjoyed watching the drama twitch has provided our society.
the VOD part is incorrect, because it logs the chat it's an absolutely different, and preferable, method of watching missed streams because you can see and enjoy those chat reactions
Never really thought about it since I don't really use Twitch, but chat culture actually is really something I love that I've really only seen in a handful of streamers here like NairoMK. But, funny enough, YT did actually used to have something similar to Twitch prime, but instead it was a free superchat. I wish they at least brought that back since it was nice to use even if only once a month.
this could just be me but for years i always saw Twitch only for streaming and TH-cam was only meant for videos. I started out doing YT lives and Charlie is right its so hard to get people into your stream. Now im doing more videos then streams and its been way better to be found.. as always all love to you all :)
The chat flood on youtube is a great example of why i left streaming on youtube and why i don't like to watch youtube livestreams. When I get on twitch and start joining a streamer's chat, it feels really inclusive, and on the opposite end of the spectrum i try to make everybody in my chat (this is easier because i'm a smaller streamer) feel welcome and a part of the community. I've never felt that either as a viewer on live youtube streams or as a streamer doing a livestream on youtube.
Super stoked you came to youtube, I found your content about 2 months ago and really have dove deep into your channel. I really enjoy your sense of humor and the attitude/takes you have on stuff. Plus, your live streams are entertaining as hell. Keep the moist energy alive Mr. White. 😂
the toxic twitch "culture" is the worst thing about the platform, they are just abusive to anyone who isn't a guy, i am kinda glad you switched to youtube, the platform isn't that good for chatting but you don't have to intract with/look at abusive comments
One important thing that Charlie didn’t mention/know is that even if you are a member for a youtube channel you still get Ads when u tune into livestream and etc which is different from twitch Bcs that’s like 90% of the reason to sub on twitch so you don’t get wall of ads and you miss out on a certain crucial moment of the live stream
As far as streaming goes, both TH-cam and twitch has done very little to improve their side over the years. To be fair to twitch, they have got a pretty good grasp on how it's done, but the ads are definitely a big turn off for people, that they could improve on by miles. TH-cam has a lot of catching up to do, but at the same time they don't really have a reason to catch up since live streaming quite literary is an afterthought to them, since normal videos are far better for viewer retention, and as such more marketable. As someone who's not streamed on either yet, I cannot attest to how well the platform runs for the streamers, but as a viewer twitch (without ads) is far better than TH-cam for live watching. Ik this video is about twitch and TH-cam, but I'm just going to say kick is like twitch, except they are on a path to crash and burn if they don't start thinking straight. The 95/5 split means that kick is making little money off of what should be their main revenue source, they sign ludicrous deals with streamers, and they have the worst content moderation *cough* *cough* Aden Ross streaming pr** *cough* *cough*. I like the idea of kick is trying to be (minus the gambling) but their execution is just terrible, and I wouldn't want to be on a platform with such a bad image.
It's shocking how many of these problems actually have built in solutions. I've done like 10 streams, and all the options for slowing chat and stuff and baked in. Idk why website-wide jokes are good, I'd rather community inside jokes. The two biggest flaws with twitch is adds and the inability to rewind a stream. I've only been on twitch a few times to get rewards for games and stuff and I was astonished that they didn't have such a basic feature. If your internet isn't great or you get a lag spike then you've missed something and can't figure out what it was until (and even then, if) the vod is released
All valid points Charlie. I'm a newer streamer and you're right. The only people I get in YT are people I already know but, I use YT so much in everyday life its just convenient to stream there also. Besides the rewind thing the one big thing I appreciate is that they don't delete your stream after a week. Everything goes under your channel and I can view lives from anytime. YT mainly needs to have a stream part of their site. A place to see whos live by category, to search for keywords/tags so you can find what you're in the mood for, and overall more effort into their streaming service. If YT could take a bit of criticism and use it to make changes/improve they could give Twitch a run for their money.
I love that you stream on TH-cam. Please carry on. I really, really hate Twitch. I live in the UK so I rarely catch your streams but it’s so cool to open TH-cam and see you live when I wake up at 4am. I never just open and browse Twitch. Plus, Twitch chat is just an incoherent cesspit.
TH-cam has potential to be a #1 livestream site if they just made some changes to their interface. They could also create a clone site of TH-cam that only has livestreams and stuff on it, similar to Twitch. Just add categories, emotes, chat tools etc. and do some marketing and boom!
I definitely tune into your streams for the comfort of just chilling with you in the background while I work or game. So glad you moved to youtube, I mostly listen through bluetooth headphones with my phone and twitch mobile is.. just sad. TH-cam premium is incredibly convenient with not having to keep my phone turned on and such
I've literally never clicked or even hovered over that join button. I was unaware of what it did and if I don't know what something is I refuse to click on it.
I migrated 2 weeks ago! I think I was inspired by you... I started streaming on Twitch in 2021 but I wasn't consistent so I can't say that I was fully integrated. I was top 3% of streamers of Game Design & Software Devs (last year or 2021 I forgot) so that was fun My streams have been more active on TH-cam thanks for my 900 subscribers who've seen my videos
I think the experience is also very different as a creator depending on your channel size. I switched to TH-cam because the way to grow and make money off Twitch is consistently going live which is exhausting, but you're also not growing as a small streamer if you're not networking, which is not for me. I think Twitch is also very creator-heavy at the lower level. Like the creator/viewer ratio is a lot tighter than TH-cams. TH-cam is perfect if you want to make content but don't really want to deal with the social parts of it that are required on Twitch but lacks a sense of community. Just my thoughts. I agree with everything that was said on this video but my experience has been a bit different as a small content creator.
This is a joke right? Why are we splitting apps up so much? There is no need for yt streaming to be it's own app when it works perfectly fine in the normal yt app.
Nah, it can be it's own tab on the app, TH-cam is able to have different layouts for everything so it can look a lot different from the main app but still in the app
Personally I consider the lack of chat personality the biggest plus. I genuinely cannot follow Twitch chat or understand what is even happening in there half the time.
I find I get notified much more often with TH-cam streams when they're premiered for a set time in advance, so maybe you should try that! Often, stream premieres pop up in my notifs or recommended and allow me to set it to notify me later which is how I usually catch TH-cam streams.
The DVR on TH-cam is probably the best feature to their streams. They should definitely adopt the terms "follow" & "subscribe" like twitch to be more clear. I've streamed for years on both and the community feel is much better on twitch.
Today's Fact: In 2002, a woman named Ann Hodges was struck by a meteorite while napping in her home; years earlier, a short story by Roald Dahl featured a character named Mrs. Bixby who was also struck by a meteorite while napping.
One great QOL feature of youtube is how there's live chat and the filtered tab that doesn't have emote or one word spam, makes it easier to interact since there's always gonna be that one or ten people that just can't help themselves spamming emotes making the chat scroll faster.
About the rewind function. This can be done on Twitch, but not so easily as on TH-cam. The streamer has to let VODs be visible. And if they are visible, the viewer can go to the Past Broadcasts of the streamer, and the VOD for the current stream is there, and you can watch it up until the point of the stream that is happening at the time when you go to the VOD (so if you go to the VOD for the currently happening stream when the stream has been live for 2 hours, you'll get a 2 hour long VOD to watch through). So it's possible, but requires more work to take advantage of compared to on TH-cam where you just drag the timeline slider backwards. A thing I love on TH-cam is that you can click to start streaming in OBS and you don't automatically go live on TH-cam. You can see that the stream is working properly, and you don't go live until you click to go live in the TH-cam streaming dashboard. I want this on Twitch. But it can be an option to have it like now or a dashboard preview until you click Go Live.
another perk of watching a stream on YT: when the stream & chat go out of sync, you can bump the speed of the video up a little bit, and it'll slowly sync back to current
I am glad that TH-cam is making bigger moves on the streaming side. Hopefully it makes Twitch do better
It’ll never happen. Twitch cares more about profit than appealing to their streamers. 😕
we desperately need an browsing page with games and languages easily findable, then i will browse yt live more often. the way it is now is awful
Twitch only cares about titty streamers now
Competition breeds innovation!
@OfficerBMTshiver me timbers
Something I also really like about TH-cam is the ability to NOT immediately go live when you press Start Streaming in OBS.
This allows you to preview your stream to yourself first before going live publicly, checking bitrate quality, delay, connection etc.
...it also helps when you accidentally misclicked Start Streaming when you wanted to record offline
Lucas I did not expect to see you here
Yo it’s the funny battle cats man
@@bosssnurp5912 you make me wanna play miitopia again
@@Cyborg2457 good
Yo battle cat youtuber
Another feature that Charlie did not mention is the ability to schedule streams (up to a year from now). Charlie doesn't really use this since he just goes live whenever he wants to but creating a scheduled stream HELPS A LOT in terms of notifying and reminding your viewers about your stream. Scheduled streams notifies subscribers like an hour or half an hour before the stream starts and notifies again once the streamer goes live. Going live out of nowhere somehow reduces the chance of this notifications to work and I hope YT fixes that but scheduling your stream really helps.
like this so charlie can start scheduling
Twitch has a schedule. I don't think it's used very often nor does it give the advanced notifs you mentioned, but it is there.
if you have a following somewhere, you could make "Im streaming at ___, come join!" or something as a post so that'll notify some people.
One thing Charlie overlooked is the stream consistency from the viewer side. If you don't have good internet a TH-cam stream is waaay better than twitch
This, I always wondered why that is.
True I watch twitch interest freezes so I have to refresh then I GET TWO UNSKIPABLE ADS GG
@@10rey72
Google has a much more robust system than Amazon
He was definitely lost in space on this one
very good point. and i think having built in rewind and forward helps a lot with that as well. you can pause and let it buffer and then resume without having to "catch up" immediately
One thing I like about TH-cam streaming is that streamers can schedule their streams. So it pops up on the viewers subscribe tab. So it’s good for streamers with a schedule. Plus it also creates a waiting room for Chatters. But like Charlie said, it’s only good for people that are already subscribed, not for discoverability.
Yeah was surprised he didn’t mention this tbh
But again, you cannot directly start streaming, you have to schedule your stream EVERY time.
i value the scheduled stream thing a LOT because it helps with me being able to determine if i will be available to watch it or not, i really dont like randomly checking if people are live since i dont use notifications on anything since i dont want a million emails
just make some random relevant topical videos, make a video essay, make some funny edits etc. its really not that difficult. i dont get the ONLY streaming thing, like why limit yourself lol. twitch doesnt even give the option for discoverability like creating youtube videos does, 98% of twitch is people with 0 - 5 viewers and they have to keep going live all the time for nothing praying a bigger streamer will raid them or notice them.
@@why_tho_no you can just start streaming
As a long term TH-cam denizen, I am very happy to see another major creator livestreaming regularly on the platform. I do think TH-cam would benefit from more emotes being integrated and developing a whole new recommendation system for streamers. I do however think twitch is too restricted, has too many ads, has a terrible app experience, and has a vastly inferior vod system. It seems like only some vods end up on that obscure vod tab on twitch. With TH-cam, they show up perfectly just like videos. And of course they don't have the rewind feature.
Getting those "face jump scares" as thumbnails for Charlie's stream is something that makes my day just a little better
The bot squad in full force again
@@dusky5535 I'm starting to wonder if TH-cam will ever get rid of them
@@OfficiallySnekI wouldn't count on it
@@OfficiallySnekdon’t count on it but you can always count on getting a lil silly jump scare from Charlie every once in a while, I love the stream thumbnails 😂
The streams come along way more naturally on TH-cam it’s so much better
I would really love to see TH-cam make their livestream theater mode better for desktop and mobile, imo that'd make the viewing experience a lot better
How'd you mean? I find TH-cam's theater mode pretty decent for viewing without going fullscreen.
i like the way it looks and all that except for going full screen and trying to type in chat on mobile😭
@@browntint Ah, that makes sense.
One thing I did think of was you can't really look at chat and also look at the screen on desktop either. Even though there's generally ample room.
@@slsthewriter1299 Yeah, I haven't watched many youtube streams, but having to scroll down to see/type in chat is not ideal. Twitch does this far better.
What's wrong with the theater mode on desktop? I see nothing wrong with it.
as far as memberships go, being in the vtuber community has shown me that they are more individualistic than sub's from twitch. they're more like tightknit communities for their respective streamers, than a general means of support. if you're in the know its very identifiable. Investigators for Ame's members, Chumbuds for Gura, Irystocrats for Irys, ect. it functions more as a mini patreon. or at least thast what its used for by them.
This. It also gives you access to the membership tab where we can get extra perks. And even if you don’t support, the community tab is just as good. No point in using other social media platforms.
Also instead of Twitch’s “culture”, TH-cam can have channel specific “cultures” like how when Ina leaves to do something chat spams cucumbers.
I only use TH-cam for hololive/vtube streams. Feels like I'm missing out when they decide to switch to twitch.
Ok dude bro.
What is Ame?
Another thing you didn’t mention: The ads themselves on TH-cam are far less frequent and intrusive to the streaming experience in comparison to Twitch.
Like, Twitch will literally shove 4 ads at a time down your throat every few minutes. It’s a genuine turn-off for me, and I have no clue how people don’t take issue with this more.
Exactly, the viewing experience is way better on TH-cam
True
I'd say this is because most ppl are running some form of adblocker, or are subbed to the streamers they watch frequently, which means no ads
plus for like 20 bucks a month(for premium) which I have anyway cus I don't like ads in normal videos, I don't have to watch any ads anywhere on the website
The ads are the #1 deal breaker for Twitch. They should have been the first thing mentioned.
I really think if TH-cam focused on the streaming side of things, they could easily overtake Twitch. It really just seems TH-cam isn't that interested in streaming.
theve been better than twitch for a long time already
What do you mean? They paid Ludwig to stream on their platform. Of course they're interesting in streaming.
@iwannafunny5130 For me, that's just throwing money at something. Which I'm glad they are; and they seem to have strategized on who to get better than Mixer.
But what I think they really need to do is focus on frequent updates. There are some basic quality of life changes (some mentioned in the video) that we've been asking for years, and they are still not here.
Any great things about TH-cam streaming are just from the video side of things (ad density, thumbnails). They just really need to focus on streaming, and it can easily surpass Twitch; but I think overall, they're just focused on the video side of things.
My personal take is that TH-cam will never be the dominant streaming platform, at least not for anything outside of official government or world events.
I don’t know about you guys, maybe it’s just me, but I use TH-cam for Videos and I (don’t anymore) use Twitch for streams. It’s more fundamental than the actual creator itself, it’s like playing pc games on a tv. Like in general there is no difference, but I won’t do it
As they shouldn’t be
What I’ve found helps on TH-cam is scheduling your streams. The upcoming stream gets pushed out giving your subscribers and new ppl a chance to turn on notifications for those specific streams.
It's amazing how Twitch never self-desctructed with all their bad decisions
Cough cough cam girl streamers
Charlie content is still cringe twitch or TH-cam.
@@MrUssy101#1 hate watcher
@@MrUssy101yet you’re here, under one of his videos? Weird
@@MrUssy101its goofy thats the whole point of his content bozo
Not having a culture like twitch isn't a bad thing. I like the idea of chat culture that is more channel specific fostered by the creators instead of every streamer talking the same
This, so much. There are people I want to watch that are only on Twtich but I stopped watching because the chat culture has evolved into something I'm just not a fan of, like when streamers use TTS to read bit messages. I already thought bits were a bit intrusive but it's so annoying for the streamer to be talking about something, having an interesting conversation and then they have to either stop or talk over the random donation message forcing in their joke. There are some chats on YT I'm not big on, but that's bc of the culture specific to that streamer (even if I like the streamer), but this also means every streamer having a different feel in the chat adds to the streamer's identity imo.
On his TH-cam streams his chat is just filled with “lol” “lmao” and fart jokes it’s so childish and boring. It feels like his twitch viewers were drowned out by his TH-cam subs
@@QuagmiresDungeonthat is the inevitable result of any stream that big, on any platform
This, exactly this! The reason I never got into to Twitch is because I wasn't vibing with that specific culture but it's so tight-knit that as a newcomer you can't imagine fostering your own thing. It's either hop on the bandwagon or f*ck off. So while the Twitch culture and the whole "we are like a family"-thing is one the platforms biggest pros it can at times be a huge con too, it's like an organically grown gatekeeper.
yeah, twitch "chat culture" is some of the cringiest shit I've seen ever
The cat house is gone, this right there, this is when they decided to not mash pissers anymore
charlie's ability give credit where credit is due while also giving genuine critique in a constructive way is what makes him such a force as a commentator
this is him saying to youtube: take notes!
I feel like he's just explaining it fairly and you're only saying that because most people make bad faith or biased arguments. (nothing towards charlie, just my 2 cents)
Charlie's fanbase ability to give credit for the most trivial things. What he does here should be the norm. There is no need to put him on a pedestal.
What makes Charlie apealing is the fact that he is so genuine. He's kind of an everyman. He looks at things from multiple perspectives, forms an oppinion, and lays it all out for us as the viewer. This allows us to form an oppinion of our own when it comes to toppics like this. He doesn't deserve to be put on a pedestal because of this, but the sad reality is that Charlie is a breath of fresh air between most of the BS you see online nowadays.
It's the ever so chill attitude as well. Never have I had to reach for the volume down button on my keyboard within two seconds of opening one of his videos - unlike many youtubers
Honestly you made this video at a perfect time for me, kinda crazy. This is the exact question ive been asking others what i should do. You kinda solidified TH-cam pretty well for me ngl. Especially since I wont be streaming daily, and wanna do event based streams.
How the hell you are a verified and have no replies
Nvm you dissapeared from TH-cam the same as coryxkenshin
lol
I always thought streaming on TH-cam felt like an addon to the main website as oppose something that is independent and its own thing.
I think this is where Charlie and Tiana broke up given that the cat tree is gone
being able to rewind the stream is soooo nice. I love being able to start a stream that i'm late to from the beginning or pausing a stream if I have to get up and watching at 2x until I catch up
Yea that is a great feature
@jayten2979millions of terrorists I presume
You know how it is
I like it for loading screens and other low moments that I don’t really care about.
seeking back in the vod and catching up at faster speed is a huge QoL improvement for sure
I've been struggling with this issue for a while, i really wish youtube would update and make that final push for improvments for streamers.
It's insane that youtube bitrate is higher and on lower end devices the experience is still smoother just because of youtube's transcoding, which twitch only offers to partners and trickles down to affiliates.
I'm looking forward to yt allowing AV1 encoded live streaming. Last I heard they are testing it with cert channels.
@@sean8102 It's been a few months since they did that. I imagine it will roll out to everyone soon. Maybe early next year.
I love being able to be so terminally online, that I get to watch videos the moment they drop
So true
I feel bad for you, 4 out of the 5 replies on your comment are bots
jesus christ what did this guy do to deserve these bots 💀
It’s amazing to see that TH-cam is making a big stride towards better TH-cam Streaming, twitch has a lot to improve on.
Isnt there like a slow mode for chat
@@shreyashzade2379it’s crazy how there was only one real reply under this comment with 5 replies.
@@Tensentities forget the ad-pocalyps from a few years ago, we’ve been in the bot-pocalyps for months now. I can’t figure out why TH-cam hasn’t put a stop to it by now. It’s not like TH-cam is profiting off it in any way. It changes nothing with monetization, it just actively makes the platform worse.
I'm very glad you brought up the rewind component. It is singlehandedly why I will always prefer watching esports (specifically RLCS) on youtube when they go live. It allows me to multitask since I don't have to constantly be glued to the screen in fear that I'll miss a big play or moment. On twitch you can still go back but the process is tedious as hell while on youtube you can do it with a press of the left arrow key on your keyboard.
You can do it on twitch??
Yes it's good in that way
@@morganwalz3938technically yes but you have to close the livestream and load the vod separately. Kinda pathetic on twitch's end when tv providers have made literal remote controls for decades now.
One of the few positive things about Twitch is live discoverability and even that is awful for small streamers. When you don't have many viewers, you're pushed to the very bottom of the list and you're effectively invisible. When I switched to Twitch, 99% of my chatters still found me through TH-cam. Offline discoverability on TH-cam usually hard carries small streamers imo
*As a TH-cam streamer. More folks watch the VOD of the stream than the actual stream. That’s where the discoverablity actually happens. Which is also why there’s no streaming culture. Since most audiences treat streams like other videos*
Edit:
*Advice for new streamers that choose TH-cam. Treat your streams more like a let’s play than twitch stream.*
Makes sense
Yeah I'm definitely a perpetrator of this. I watch stream vods while I sleep and very rarely watch actual streams.
Twitch vods are also unwatchable. There are ads every 5 minutes on Twitch vods. No thanks.
@@MrGyrations When he said you can just check in and watch a stream on Twitch I laughed, there is at least one 3 minute in skippable ad. I hate that feature so much that’s why I hate Twitch.
Exactly, there's been like a total of 5ish streamers I've found on this platform by watching their streams live (and only one of them since the virus). The rest of them I found by watching the vods.
I was genuinely happy to see Charlie on TH-camr over Twitch. I hate using Twitch and never like to go out of my way to watch even people I like on there. I'm glad that it's healthier for you mentally too. Everyone wins.
Same
at least he explained why he doesnt read youtube chat at all when he's streaming on youtube lol
The Wired interview is so funny lmao the way he was holding back his analogies. Now he's free to release lol.
Just wanna say that for the ability to go back on a stream, the streamer has to make sure the Enable DVR button is on in the TH-cam live dashboard (which, smartly, is on by default), but there are streamers that turned this off and with it off, the ability to rewind a stream is taken off.
As to why some streamers turn this off, I imagine it's so that the stream will always be up to the current moment instead of lagged behind cos when a viewer watches a stream and it buffers because of their bad connection, when the stream reconnects, the stream continues where the viewer was left off so the viewer then would be lagged behind in the stream even though chat was moving according to the current time of the stream itself, with the Enable DVR button off, when the viewer reconnects to the stream, the stream would jump to the current moment of the stream itself of being lagged behind.
This is my theory as to why some streamers turn it off, I myself always enable the DVR cos the ability to rewind a stream while it's live is just easy access for the viewers too, plus, if they wanna get back to current, just click the "Live" part in the scrubber and you'll be jumped to the current moment of the stream.
I've seen 2 streamers specifically turn this feature off to test how the experience is for a stream or two. The viewers hated it and they immediately turned the feature back on. The reason for turning it off: "we streamers don't like seeing chat comments from stuff that happened a while ago". So it's really a selfish thing for the streamers to have a clean current chat full of up to date chatting. The best thing for viewing experience is to give people the option of watching live, or rewinding a bit to what they missed, and most people with a brain know to not chat about old stuff if they are rewinded by like an hour.
Not reading allat but I agree
@@ProFudgey he said that he supports racism in his statement, so you agree with that? I see
@@codyjohnson6427 I don't, 💀reading is fundamental
@@ProFudgey lol
Didn't expect I'd see Charlie make a video like this but honestly I like Twitch and TH-cam for their own reasons but I wish there was a way to mix both.
As a person who has streamed on twitch and youtube, I found that you get the most interactions as a new streamer with "playing with viewers" tag on. I used to do a smash bros arena every 2 days for new people to come in and follow and for a 3 months, I gained up to 100 followers. Then I looked at a video telling me that youtube was a better option and friends told me to check out youtube as well and I thought why not give it a try. I had less than half of my audience follow my transfer to youtube and twitch deleted my acc too (oddly enough, idk why. I didn't have a contract). TH-cam was a little slower than twitch but sometimes if you have the right idea, you might spark something. I made a stream of doing a smash bros tournament with all the amiibos I had trained on twitch, edited it down, and went from averaging 50s to 300 views, then getting this 5k view video which was way better than anything I've gotten from twitch.
Safe to say I found my place on youtube
nuh uh
@@funfeels ?
Legit, Charlie explaining the join button is the first time I've heard it explained well. Finally joined the squad
Why would you need that explained to you? Are you 5?
@@123457474869 unnecessary.
Fun fact: in German TH-cam, the button is labeled "Mitglied werden" which means "Become a member".
@@toifeldon’t care
The main reason why I don't go much to twitch is the spamminess of the chats.
I’m all in on people streaming on TH-cam. The ads are SO MUCH better, you can pause and rewind any part you want. The VODS are MUCH better.
Im glad you started streaming on YT, been really enjoyable hopping in and watching you undergo your shiengians. If i miss a stream I'll just listen next day as I work, thanks for the constant content legend.
I appreciate you making this video. This is the first comparison I've seen where someone wasn't obviously biased towards one platform or the other.
frankly i like the youtube streams more. they’re more accessible for most people.
Not even that just navigating twitch felt icky
I just want to jump in here on the discoverability side, as someone who is a "nobody" streamer and been trying this for years on both platforms. My twitch was a graveyard of people stopping by, 0-2 views on a 10 hour span. Here on YT, I average 20 views per stream and I usually go for 3 hours. Now these are some small numbers but its a literal 1000% view count boost. I honestly see YT as a better growth platform especially if you also make vids, music, and other content. Just my two cents from a tiny blip in the streaming space.
I hope you can continue to make streams and enjoy them on youtube as you did on Twitch for many years.
0:50 Yes, Jesus tell us the great news.
This is honestly a very insightful video. Whether you stream or not, its good as a new viewer of either platform to have a better understanding of what to expect accessibility wise.
I like it when someone is able to use language in your sarcastic but very on point way. Like every other sentence sounds polished, I wish more people were able to express themselves like that...😢
Being able to go back while watching the live, instead of going to the channel and looking for the vod, it's one thing I would like to see implemented on twitch
TH-cam needs their own live tab. They have home, subscriptions, shorts, and library. How do they not have a dedicated live tab for streamers and browse catalogue for games?
The discoverability argument is really strange considering I watched a TH-cam essay on how only the top twitch streamers really get promoted because it's what makes the website the most money
For TH-cam, you have to add an add-on to your browser to fix the emote issue. Nairo has this on his channel, and it is amazing. Plus, there is a streaming mode add on too which fixes the video and chat placement format.
The idea of editing a thumbnail turned out very good. A lot of times I just check a video or stream because of the thumbnail. I also know ppl prepare thumbnails in Photoshop for regular streams. It makes it look a little more professional ngl
coke was designed before refrigeration so it is best consumed warm as that is what it was designed to be. pepsi was designed after refrigeration and had it in mind when developing the soda. so warm coke and cold pepsi will taste similar compared to either both cold or warm.
My conspiracy theory is that TH-cam has purposefully designed chat to be unreadable so as to encourage viewers to spend money so the streamer is able to read their message
One thing I do love about YT Streaming is the VODs are permanent with choice to private, unlist, or simply publish, in Twitch, it only lasts a few weeks.
another thing about memberships that he didn't mention, is that membership emotes can only be used in that specific streamer's chat, which really limits their use, whereas on twitch, you can use subscription emotes in any chat, allowing them to function as mini advertisements for a streamer and encourages better emotes overall, since obviously you'd want your paid emotes to look as good as possible since you never know who will see them
Don't care what you said. You have a Guzma profile photo so you get a like.
@@ItsDaNewGuyi read the first sentence and thought you were a bot, then read the second sentence and realized that you were based all along.
@@MysticTech Yup, I get that a lot. Needed that laugh though, thanks. Lmfao
Essentially youtube needs some UI designers to really buckle down and find out how to attract people to watch
I think they chose to have the chat messages flow nonstop so that only super chats get noticed
@@MamadNobari Btw birds are government surveillance devices and the moon isnt real
2:01 chat culture is bad it’s nice when the chat is for the streamer
The best thing about TH-cam streaming is the lack of ads.
As someone who has never downloaded twitch and never been entertained by streaming content, I’ve always enjoyed watching the drama twitch has provided our society.
the VOD part is incorrect, because it logs the chat it's an absolutely different, and preferable, method of watching missed streams because you can see and enjoy those chat reactions
Never really thought about it since I don't really use Twitch, but chat culture actually is really something I love that I've really only seen in a handful of streamers here like NairoMK. But, funny enough, YT did actually used to have something similar to Twitch prime, but instead it was a free superchat. I wish they at least brought that back since it was nice to use even if only once a month.
this could just be me but for years i always saw Twitch only for streaming and TH-cam was only meant for videos. I started out doing YT lives and Charlie is right its so hard to get people into your stream. Now im doing more videos then streams and its been way better to be found.. as always all love to you all :)
The chat flood on youtube is a great example of why i left streaming on youtube and why i don't like to watch youtube livestreams. When I get on twitch and start joining a streamer's chat, it feels really inclusive, and on the opposite end of the spectrum i try to make everybody in my chat (this is easier because i'm a smaller streamer) feel welcome and a part of the community. I've never felt that either as a viewer on live youtube streams or as a streamer doing a livestream on youtube.
Super stoked you came to youtube, I found your content about 2 months ago and really have dove deep into your channel. I really enjoy your sense of humor and the attitude/takes you have on stuff. Plus, your live streams are entertaining as hell. Keep the moist energy alive Mr. White. 😂
the toxic twitch "culture" is the worst thing about the platform, they are just abusive to anyone who isn't a guy, i am kinda glad you switched to youtube, the platform isn't that good for chatting but you don't have to intract with/look at abusive comments
I think it's because it's such a small community that skews young, that they feel threatened at any outsider
TH-cam Should have a streaming section/tab/area that has more features.
One important thing that Charlie didn’t mention/know is that even if you are a member for a youtube channel you still get Ads when u tune into livestream and etc which is different from twitch Bcs that’s like 90% of the reason to sub on twitch so you don’t get wall of ads and you miss out on a certain crucial moment of the live stream
As far as streaming goes, both TH-cam and twitch has done very little to improve their side over the years. To be fair to twitch, they have got a pretty good grasp on how it's done, but the ads are definitely a big turn off for people, that they could improve on by miles. TH-cam has a lot of catching up to do, but at the same time they don't really have a reason to catch up since live streaming quite literary is an afterthought to them, since normal videos are far better for viewer retention, and as such more marketable. As someone who's not streamed on either yet, I cannot attest to how well the platform runs for the streamers, but as a viewer twitch (without ads) is far better than TH-cam for live watching.
Ik this video is about twitch and TH-cam, but I'm just going to say kick is like twitch, except they are on a path to crash and burn if they don't start thinking straight. The 95/5 split means that kick is making little money off of what should be their main revenue source, they sign ludicrous deals with streamers, and they have the worst content moderation *cough* *cough* Aden Ross streaming pr** *cough* *cough*. I like the idea of kick is trying to be (minus the gambling) but their execution is just terrible, and I wouldn't want to be on a platform with such a bad image.
I don't think they care much about the 95/5, they get all the money from people gambling so they don't make major losses
It's shocking how many of these problems actually have built in solutions. I've done like 10 streams, and all the options for slowing chat and stuff and baked in. Idk why website-wide jokes are good, I'd rather community inside jokes. The two biggest flaws with twitch is adds and the inability to rewind a stream. I've only been on twitch a few times to get rewards for games and stuff and I was astonished that they didn't have such a basic feature. If your internet isn't great or you get a lag spike then you've missed something and can't figure out what it was until (and even then, if) the vod is released
Selfishly happy your doing youtube streams
@OfficerBMT you have no content
In the Portuguese version, the "Join" button says "Seja Membro", which translates to "Become a Member"
All valid points Charlie.
I'm a newer streamer and you're right. The only people I get in YT are people I already know but, I use YT so much in everyday life its just convenient to stream there also. Besides the rewind thing the one big thing I appreciate is that they don't delete your stream after a week. Everything goes under your channel and I can view lives from anytime. YT mainly needs to have a stream part of their site. A place to see whos live by category, to search for keywords/tags so you can find what you're in the mood for, and overall more effort into their streaming service. If YT could take a bit of criticism and use it to make changes/improve they could give Twitch a run for their money.
"who knows what the join button does?!"
It lets you join the community and become a member
6:20 this also makes a great argument for TH-cam premium as you can turn off your phone and you can listen like it's a radio
I love that you stream on TH-cam. Please carry on. I really, really hate Twitch. I live in the UK so I rarely catch your streams but it’s so cool to open TH-cam and see you live when I wake up at 4am. I never just open and browse Twitch. Plus, Twitch chat is just an incoherent cesspit.
TH-cam has potential to be a #1 livestream site if they just made some changes to their interface. They could also create a clone site of TH-cam that only has livestreams and stuff on it, similar to Twitch. Just add categories, emotes, chat tools etc. and do some marketing and boom!
Even better: a setting where you can change who long viewer's messages are held.
I definitely tune into your streams for the comfort of just chilling with you in the background while I work or game. So glad you moved to youtube, I mostly listen through bluetooth headphones with my phone and twitch mobile is.. just sad. TH-cam premium is incredibly convenient with not having to keep my phone turned on and such
I like how before people were moving from TH-cam to Twitch and now it's the other way around
With Twitch VODs there's also the thing where it disappears after a few months.
I've literally never clicked or even hovered over that join button. I was unaware of what it did and if I don't know what something is I refuse to click on it.
I migrated 2 weeks ago! I think I was inspired by you...
I started streaming on Twitch in 2021 but I wasn't consistent so I can't say that I was fully integrated.
I was top 3% of streamers of Game Design & Software Devs (last year or 2021 I forgot) so that was fun
My streams have been more active on TH-cam thanks for my 900 subscribers who've seen my videos
I like YT streams not just for their rewind, but because you can also 2x the speed to chatch back up without missing anything else.
9:24 correction, *on any TH-cam stream that the streamer has allowed to be rewindable*
I think the experience is also very different as a creator depending on your channel size. I switched to TH-cam because the way to grow and make money off Twitch is consistently going live which is exhausting, but you're also not growing as a small streamer if you're not networking, which is not for me. I think Twitch is also very creator-heavy at the lower level. Like the creator/viewer ratio is a lot tighter than TH-cams.
TH-cam is perfect if you want to make content but don't really want to deal with the social parts of it that are required on Twitch but lacks a sense of community. Just my thoughts. I agree with everything that was said on this video but my experience has been a bit different as a small content creator.
I've always felt like TH-cam streaming should ALSO have it's own app
The problem is that those would get far less viewers those just taking place on youtube proper.
This is a joke right? Why are we splitting apps up so much? There is no need for yt streaming to be it's own app when it works perfectly fine in the normal yt app.
Nah, it can be it's own tab on the app, TH-cam is able to have different layouts for everything so it can look a lot different from the main app but still in the app
Personally I consider the lack of chat personality the biggest plus. I genuinely cannot follow Twitch chat or understand what is even happening in there half the time.
Being able to rewind streams is such a huge gamechanger for me, glad you mentioned it because I don't see streamers talking about it enough!
I find I get notified much more often with TH-cam streams when they're premiered for a set time in advance, so maybe you should try that! Often, stream premieres pop up in my notifs or recommended and allow me to set it to notify me later which is how I usually catch TH-cam streams.
I didnt even watch the video yet but i am still 95% happier now just because of charlies existence
@ville__ nice bro👌
@OfficerBMT🤖
Aww
Rewinding streams is so good. You can do it on twitch but only if vods are enabled and a lot of streamers either don't, or make it subs only.
The DVR on TH-cam is probably the best feature to their streams. They should definitely adopt the terms "follow" & "subscribe" like twitch to be more clear. I've streamed for years on both and the community feel is much better on twitch.
Today's Fact: In 2002, a woman named Ann Hodges was struck by a meteorite while napping in her home; years earlier, a short story by Roald Dahl featured a character named Mrs. Bixby who was also struck by a meteorite while napping.
Yay
Charlie never fails to fill me with ooie gooie pure happiness!
I hate this form of comment. Please stop.
God critikals fans are still repeating the same unfunny jokes ad infinitum
@@Mandate_of_Heavenlol
@@HououinKyouma. lol
@OfficerBMTOk
One great QOL feature of youtube is how there's live chat and the filtered tab that doesn't have emote or one word spam, makes it easier to interact since there's always gonna be that one or ten people that just can't help themselves spamming emotes making the chat scroll faster.
Both are equally problematic
About the rewind function. This can be done on Twitch, but not so easily as on TH-cam.
The streamer has to let VODs be visible. And if they are visible, the viewer can go to the Past Broadcasts of the streamer, and the VOD for the current stream is there, and you can watch it up until the point of the stream that is happening at the time when you go to the VOD (so if you go to the VOD for the currently happening stream when the stream has been live for 2 hours, you'll get a 2 hour long VOD to watch through). So it's possible, but requires more work to take advantage of compared to on TH-cam where you just drag the timeline slider backwards.
A thing I love on TH-cam is that you can click to start streaming in OBS and you don't automatically go live on TH-cam. You can see that the stream is working properly, and you don't go live until you click to go live in the TH-cam streaming dashboard. I want this on Twitch. But it can be an option to have it like now or a dashboard preview until you click Go Live.
"one line and an emote" Your own words describing brain rot and apparently the culture it grew from
It sounds like a lot of the problems with YT would be solved by a “the person X you Subscribe to has gone Live” notification
For me it’s the ads, Only having to pay one subscription for all ads to disappear is a huge win
another perk of watching a stream on YT: when the stream & chat go out of sync, you can bump the speed of the video up a little bit, and it'll slowly sync back to current