@@milktoothnu when these switches are used in a board which has north facing leds, ie the led slot of the switch faces up, the tops hit gmk keycaps of row profile 3 and sound odd. To check this, a gmk keycap is mounted on the switch and a paper is inserted between the keycap bottom and switch top and is then pressed, if the paper falls freely it is free of interference and if it stays due to contact point between the keycap underside and switch top, it does interfere. Hope that clears things
@@0xss Thanks for the clarification. There seems to be no north facing interference of the Baby Raccoons with Cherry profile keycaps (GMK keycaps' profile). Here's the paper test: streamable.com/qpporu
@@cauvang1183 i think they're asking that because new gateron switches usually feature a top housing mold shaped in a way that prevents CPI even with non long pole full 4mm travel switches (most notable is the Gateron Oil King and Gateron Pro Series), they are simply asking if the Baby series shares the same mold. Which the answer to is yes as shown by Milktooth's reply
Def one of my favorite reviews of these switches. Your voice and pace were so soothing as well! I hope you release more in the future, as I am a complete beginner in getting into switches
Thank you Amy :) More videos are on the way. If you could let me know what sort of topics you'd be interested in, let me know! Goal is to make the keyboard hobby more approachable.
Great video. I'd love to see a video of Baby Kangaroos vs BSUN Hutts. BSUN's seem to have a lot of the same characteristics, but are a good 10G lighter. Then of course, compare them to the MX Brown experience (BK's seem more lateral to that with some crisp punchiness)
Normally I don’t ever comment on videos but this was a great review! I’m looking for switches for a barebones kit I’m putting together for my first keyboard. I was planning on getting the gateron milky yellow pros because they’re budget, but I am considering the raccoons as well. Do you think you could do a review between the two?? If not then do you think the raccoons are worth the extra price? Sorry for so many questions. Thanks again for a great review!
Thanks for your feedback :) As for my thoughts on the Milky Yellow Pros vs Baby Raccoons, it's just way too subjective of a call to decide which one is "better." I really would recommend our try at-home program so you can decide for yourself as to which linear switch is best for you: milktooth.nu/
Thanks for the wonderful review! Although both of them sound great and similar, tactiles always sound more lively (and louder). BTW, you look so much like the Korean actor Jo Hyun-Jae! Hahah. Cheers!
so the baby kangaroo is like the "early bump" tactile switches keychron makes (keychron low profile optical banana/mint)? if that's the general feel, i think i'd like it.
How do the Oil Kings feel relative to the Baby Racoons? I have the Baby Racoons now on a Keychron Q1 and wanted to know if it's worth swapping the racoons for the Oil Kings.
Overall informative video but I have to say I just don't get the scale from pillow to marble. I have the baby raccoons on my NuPhy65 and they are silky smooth and not particularly clacky (as your own sound test seems to verify). Calling them "marbly" just seems like the wrong metaphor.
Hey TXLogic, appreciate the feedback. I agree I can improve with my descriptions' specificity. Let me know what word you would use instead to describe these Baby Raccoons!
@@milktoothnu I thought the "honey" vs "water" metaphor was on the money - BRs are smooth but the greater actuation for force makes them more "viscous" than water. But that won't really work for the BKs since their tactile - but I suspect "marbly" doesn't work for them either.
@@TXLogic Thanks for the response, very helpful. Ultimately, as of right now, these descriptors are all subjective and there is ample room for interpretation and thereby disagreement. Something I want to move towards is a way to somehow objectively capture the essence behind switch adjectives (e.g. creamy, thocky, marbly) through measurements. This way there'd be less ambiguity when using this vocabulary. If you have more thoughts I'd love to know. Feel free to join the Discord in the video description. I think your ideas are very acute and I'd love to chat more there. Communicating through TH-cam comments can be a bit cumbersome!
I got mine recently and coming from an OG Razer keyboard with razer green clicky gamer junk switches I actually get what he means now that I’ve tried them. The sound and feeling sounds kind of like a fancy marble chess board with marble pieces with the felt on the bottoms, and the actuation for them makes them lowkey kind of a finger workout but once I get used to how much more effort it takes than that gaming keyboard or my Magic Keyboard I don’t think it’ll negatively affect typing. At the end of the day it feels looks and sounds so good I’m at the point where I’ll do finger squats if that’s what it takes to keep using it
I was just struggling to decide which I wanted to try on a Nuphy board I was ordering… I couldn’t find a good review so I bought a board with both 😂. Now I know what I have coming!
Thanks for the review, i bought an halo 75 with baby kangaroo, do you think that baby kangaroo switches need film mod? Do they suffer too much of wobble?
I dont know how people call the BBK tactiles. They may be tactile by category but an accurate description would be "Non-Linear Linear". there is no tactility, not obvious tactile point. They feel like a weak replication of a collapsing dome, or a topre. I actually like this feeling however but its not strong enough for me.
Lol, then you must be really used to typing on an old school typewriter because the BBK are very tactical...and have significant snapback, hence the baby kangaroo name lol
@@ronniekregar3482 The snapback is quite significant for the spring that it has. I have since replaced the BBK with Keychron Mint Switches which have been closer to my liking. i was typing on cherry mx clears for 15 years prior to this
Could you do a paper test with gmk row 3 to check for interference (of the raccoons)
Just to clarify: north facing interference?
@@milktoothnu when these switches are used in a board which has north facing leds, ie the led slot of the switch faces up, the tops hit gmk keycaps of row profile 3 and sound odd.
To check this, a gmk keycap is mounted on the switch and a paper is inserted between the keycap bottom and switch top and is then pressed, if the paper falls freely it is free of interference and if it stays due to contact point between the keycap underside and switch top, it does interfere.
Hope that clears things
@@0xss Thanks for the clarification. There seems to be no north facing interference of the Baby Raccoons with Cherry profile keycaps (GMK keycaps' profile).
Here's the paper test: streamable.com/qpporu
If interference bother you that much just look for long pole switch with reduced travel
@@cauvang1183 i think they're asking that because new gateron switches usually feature a top housing mold shaped in a way that prevents CPI even with non long pole full 4mm travel switches (most notable is the Gateron Oil King and Gateron Pro Series), they are simply asking if the Baby series shares the same mold. Which the answer to is yes as shown by Milktooth's reply
Dude thank you so much for reviewing these switches, I'm pretty sure your the first person to review these and you described them really well
Thank you so much :)
Def one of my favorite reviews of these switches. Your voice and pace were so soothing as well! I hope you release more in the future, as I am a complete beginner in getting into switches
Thank you Amy :)
More videos are on the way. If you could let me know what sort of topics you'd be interested in, let me know! Goal is to make the keyboard hobby more approachable.
Great video. I'd love to see a video of Baby Kangaroos vs BSUN Hutts. BSUN's seem to have a lot of the same characteristics, but are a good 10G lighter. Then of course, compare them to the MX Brown experience (BK's seem more lateral to that with some crisp punchiness)
Normally I don’t ever comment on videos but this was a great review! I’m looking for switches for a barebones kit I’m putting together for my first keyboard. I was planning on getting the gateron milky yellow pros because they’re budget, but I am considering the raccoons as well. Do you think you could do a review between the two?? If not then do you think the raccoons are worth the extra price? Sorry for so many questions. Thanks again for a great review!
Thanks for your feedback :)
As for my thoughts on the Milky Yellow Pros vs Baby Raccoons, it's just way too subjective of a call to decide which one is "better." I really would recommend our try at-home program so you can decide for yourself as to which linear switch is best for you: milktooth.nu/
Thank you so much, I really liked, I been looking for this switches and your video made a very good description, good sound test.
Thanks Graciela, glad it was helpful.
just came across this vid and just bought some switches from you guys. good to see a store based here in the US!
Thank you Tunatuna!
Best video and sound test! Thank you
Thank you
am using baby raccoon...its perfect for me.
That is great to hear
Thanks for the wonderful review! Although both of them sound great and similar, tactiles always sound more lively (and louder).
BTW, you look so much like the Korean actor Jo Hyun-Jae! Hahah.
Cheers!
😂 Thank you!
so the baby kangaroo is like the "early bump" tactile switches keychron makes (keychron low profile optical banana/mint)? if that's the general feel, i think i'd like it.
Very descriptive & helpful review. Kudos.
Glad it was helpful!
How do the Oil Kings feel relative to the Baby Racoons? I have the Baby Racoons now on a Keychron Q1 and wanted to know if it's worth swapping the racoons for the Oil Kings.
Nice video
Thank you :-)
Great review!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This video was so good. As someone new to the hobby this is exaxtly what i needed. Just ordered my 10 trial set thanks!
is he legit? did u buy bk from his site
@@Tacosluvr777 yea I've done multiple trials and purchased switches. He is legit. Otherwise this would be quite the charade
Overall informative video but I have to say I just don't get the scale from pillow to marble. I have the baby raccoons on my NuPhy65 and they are silky smooth and not particularly clacky (as your own sound test seems to verify). Calling them "marbly" just seems like the wrong metaphor.
Hey TXLogic, appreciate the feedback.
I agree I can improve with my descriptions' specificity. Let me know what word you would use instead to describe these Baby Raccoons!
@@milktoothnu I thought the "honey" vs "water" metaphor was on the money - BRs are smooth but the greater actuation for force makes them more "viscous" than water. But that won't really work for the BKs since their tactile - but I suspect "marbly" doesn't work for them either.
@@TXLogic Thanks for the response, very helpful. Ultimately, as of right now, these descriptors are all subjective and there is ample room for interpretation and thereby disagreement. Something I want to move towards is a way to somehow objectively capture the essence behind switch adjectives (e.g. creamy, thocky, marbly) through measurements. This way there'd be less ambiguity when using this vocabulary.
If you have more thoughts I'd love to know. Feel free to join the Discord in the video description. I think your ideas are very acute and I'd love to chat more there. Communicating through TH-cam comments can be a bit cumbersome!
I got mine recently and coming from an OG Razer keyboard with razer green clicky gamer junk switches I actually get what he means now that I’ve tried them.
The sound and feeling sounds kind of like a fancy marble chess board with marble pieces with the felt on the bottoms, and the actuation for them makes them lowkey kind of a finger workout but once I get used to how much more effort it takes than that gaming keyboard or my Magic Keyboard I don’t think it’ll negatively affect typing.
At the end of the day it feels looks and sounds so good I’m at the point where I’ll do finger squats if that’s what it takes to keep using it
@@milktoothnu it’s like rice cake vs pound cake. Both taste good and both textures are nice but one takes more effort
I was just struggling to decide which I wanted to try on a Nuphy board I was ordering… I couldn’t find a good review so I bought a board with both 😂. Now I know what I have coming!
so which you prefer feel and sound wise?
Thanks for the review, i bought an halo 75 with baby kangaroo, do you think that baby kangaroo switches need film mod? Do they suffer too much of wobble?
The housings are pretty tight. Definitely wouldn't say that films are necessary!
Why does it feel harder than normal when bottoming out do you know? Sorry if I missed it here
No worries, I mainly attribute the hardness to their long pole stems
Out of topic... but. Dou you know a Korean actor Song Joongki? Suprised ... You look like alot..
Is this sound test with lube or no?
Stock
Aaaaaaaw why aren’t you in the US?!? The 5 switches concept is a brilliant idea! Thank you for a great review!
Thank you. We are in the US! Unless you meant something else?
Just ordered some Baby Raccoons; after watching your video…I am 100% I made the right choice for my liking :-) Thank you for such a thorough video.
yo, can you review the Lagom P64 next? thanks!
I'm not fancy enough for a P64 yet...
Amazing review! Would love to see a similiar Akko Cream Blue + Cream Yellow review! I'm subscribing for sure
Thank you for your channel! I’ve been researching about switches and it’s hard to find youtubers that actually discuss these switches!
Oh my gosh!!! This is awesome, thank you
Absolutely amazing switches. I finally replaced my Holy Panda Franken switches with Baby Kangaroos and they’re my new favorite.
did u buy from his website
Which ones were your favorite?
I like them both!
What keyboard is that in the sound test at the end?
wilba.tech Thermal
Do the bbks stick?
Be more specific?
@@milktoothnu someone told me that they "should be avoided because they stick" but i only heard it from one guy so i doubt that its a common issue..
@@deek2000 Agreed, never heard of that
I dont know how people call the BBK tactiles. They may be tactile by category but an accurate description would be "Non-Linear Linear".
there is no tactility, not obvious tactile point. They feel like a weak replication of a collapsing dome, or a topre.
I actually like this feeling however but its not strong enough for me.
Lol, then you must be really used to typing on an old school typewriter because the BBK are very tactical...and have significant snapback, hence the baby kangaroo name lol
@@ronniekregar3482 The snapback is quite significant for the spring that it has. I have since replaced the BBK with Keychron Mint Switches which have been closer to my liking.
i was typing on cherry mx clears for 15 years prior to this
How can I poke with a plastic finger like the one you have?
It's easy!
@@milktoothnu I mean, where did you buy your finger? 😂
@canuck21 www.ebay.com/itm/133681134659 Got it as a kid but this looks similar! 😅