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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:12 Most innovative
1:16 Best budget
2:03 Best materials
3:07 Most classic
4:38 Best overall
5:51 Back-to-back sound tests
6:39 Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I can't tell the difference between thock and clack in this vid THEY SOUND THE SAME😭
This video really helped so many people and me thank you (even though I’m gonna build a wooing but with the dash switches from your company)
Heavy Tactile request. I stayed 7 years on Cherry MX Greens. Now, anything light, especially light linears feel like my fingers are hammering on the keyboard. I realized I'm tactile gang and I have to go heavy.
Heavy Tactile gang.
Wuque Studio WS Heavy Tactiles are what I'm currently running right now, and while they're a big bump up in actuation force from my Boba U4T's, it's such a nice typing experience.
I really like the JWICK JWK Taro Puree tactile switches. They are a 67g tactiles and currently the deepest sounding switch I own out of the 12 I have tried so far. Currently have them on my main typing board. They are also less exhausting in long gaming sessions than the oil kings.
Wanna punish your fingers? Give the b.stone darkeyes a shot, I've tried all the hyper tactiles and these blow them all out of the water no contest
Invyr Holy Pandas are the best tactile switches I’ve ever used. They might not be the heaviest (stock is 67g) but as a longtime Topre user they are fantastic.
You can still get them from Milktooth!
@@1155media hi could i ask you if the ws heavy tactiles sound deeper/lower pitched/thockier than the u4ts? and is the bump right at the beginning without much or any pretravel?
Sorry for the long-ass comment, I'm bored and opinionated today :)
I prefer a deeper sound profile, without deferring to over-foaming my boards (particularly PE foam), especially since I often appreciate the subtle differences between switches. That said, I've tried every single one of [the linear] switches named in this video and have sharply contrasting opinions lol. Disclaimer: as with all things, how your switches sound is A) highly subjective, B) depends on your actual auditory anatomy, and C) can change drastically depending on the board you put them in, the materials used (plate, etc), the presence or absence of foams and other modifiers, the keycaps mounted, the use of and/or type of deskmat, and many other factors. My #1 recommendation when people ask me what kind of switch they should buy is to pleeeease buy as many 10-packs of switches as you possibly can, and to do it often. Then try them in as many boards as you can, with as many different plates as you can. You'll come to find that there's no "one best switch" - you might prefer a certain switch in one keyboard and absolutely hate that same switch in the next. Arm yourself with experience and knowledge! That said, here's my thoughts on the switches our friend Milktooth has shown us today, as well as a few of my faves down below:
NEPTUNE/VENUS - deep sound, smooth feel, very little wobble, but to me the bottom-out felt a little weird and I ended up not particularly liking them, at least on the two boards I tried. I liked the sound profile well enough that I'm sure I'll come back to them again in the future and try them out in different boards
MILKY YELLOW PRO - great budget switch, medium-low sound profile, decently smooth. Def recommend but really only for the strictest budgets since there's better if your budget opens up a bit. Top 10 for me when you include price into the deciding factor though
SMOOTHIES - amazing switches at an impressively mid-tier price point. They're smooth enough with Gateron's newly upgraded lubing method. The spring is lightweight but super snappy, and they are definitely one of the lower-pitched switches I've tried. Probably a top-10 switch for me, though probably only if I swap the springs
MORANDIS - I cannot say enough about how overhyped these are. They don't feel quite as smooth as you'd expect, have issues with stem wobble, and the top-out is pretty clacky. These are mid-toned at best and I would never consider these a "deep" or "thocky" switch. Tbh you can do better with your money, I wish I could get mine back
GAZZEW LTs - Just ew. Did not like. At all. Pretty clacky and not ultra smooth or anything. Mid-tier. Nothing to write home about, won't buy again
AQUA KINGS - I did like these "okay"-ish, though I didn't really find them to be worth the price. They're decently deep/low-pitched, but not the deepest by far. Their smoothness is seriously odd to experience, but not in a bad way. They definitely feel different than most switches, I just couldn't really tell you how. Maybe a top-10 switch for me?
So, maybe two/three of these actually even come close to my top-10 favorites, but I can name three right off the bat in use in my boards right now which I like better than any of those listed here. Vertex V1s, Keebhut x Aflion Tropical Waters 2, and UHMWPE COWs. In fairness, the cows come unlubed so you have to hand-lube them, which could contribute to their relative superiority in my rankings since most hand-lube jobs are better than factory. Also, the TWv2 are discontinued, though they've hinted they may be working on a v3. As a bonus, I'll say that the Aflion Cloudy & Windy Shadows are some of the best I've tried recently. They have a very loud sound signature that I can best describe as the deepest clack you'll ever hear. Not thocky, but not exactly clacky either. Nice and snappy typing feel, and Aflion's above-average factory lube to top them off! Def some of my new faves (hint: try the heavier Cloudy Shadows in your spacebar :)
Oil kings?
@@lmapa69I just got a set of the oil kings recently. They feel and sound great! So far the smoothest linear I have tried, but my linear sample size is just 4 other switches at the moment. Though I will note they are exhausting for long gaming sessions. I was getting hand cramps after a particularly long gaming session. Getting some ceramic keycaps to for a deeper sound so I am hoping the extra weight will help make them less exhausting.
Great review! I have a few switches that I need to try now. I agree that the Gateron Smoothies are great and I love Vertex V1. I've said this in this comment section before, but Morandis are SO OVERHYPED. I do not get it at all. I guess they are being included because they are a good seller, because they are so wobbly and don't feel or sound that good to me. Makes me wonder if Hipyo is getting paid to shill them. 🤣
Agreed morandi are not it. Got them in and i wish i never bought these. The wobble is insane and nobody really talks about it. And everyone cherishes these switches. Horrible for gaming btw. Bought the venus hopefully my endgame switch and ill just restock 3x on the venus if these are it
Yeah I like Oil Kings too, but they're still towards the bottom of my faves
Another fantastic video!
I would love to see a video that talks about the evolution of switches (pom material, factory lube quality, etc.), whether classic switches like holy pandas and bobas are keeping up with the latest innovations, and tips for picking switches when there are so many good ones out there.
Every switch in this video sounded fantastic. I want them all.
One underrated aspect of the Gazzew switches is there springs they come with really great stock springs I entered the hobby with U4's and I did not know what everyone was talking about when they talked about spring crunch and a spring ping until much later because my first few switches are all Gazzew Springs
Hello Milktooth!
Been wandering on your channel for about a week, just to widen my switches references and POV.
Too bad I can't do purchases on your site from where I live, but your videos made me increase the urgency to try several switches.
Great job with the vids, the comparisons, and the detailed infos.
Also, i saw several times that some comments have a different opinion from your vids that probably valid too (and another lot with agreed opinion), so Is it possible to create a vid topic out of it that you already tried also?
I mean, this is just some idea tho.
Thank you anyway!
oil kings are up there for me too tbh, great vid g
I went from akko matcha green to ttc venus and i'm so glad I did this purchase, they sound and feel great.
I switched from the Matchas to the Akko x TTC Demons. I felt like the matchas were super inconsistent
I went from morandis to the ttc venus and very happy with my purchase as well. Loving the venus switches and special thank to milktooth for the great discount and fast delivery.
Keep in mind that akko's v3 and newer switches tend to be worse compared to their older "CS" lineup.
No one knows why akko greatly downgraded the sound of their switches especially the so called "factory-lubed".
Akko's aren't exactly bad, it's just you need to lube them yourself to make it sound good but even then, Akko is probably the worst option when choosing a budget switch.
just bought my first mechanical keyboards, one to mess with and one that's already great. An Aula f99 (SWK blue whale are amazing) and an Ajazz Ak992 (ajazz red is meh). Ak992 will be modded n stuff, new switches and thanks to you I now know what to try.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I bought a set of aqua kings and I might have just gotten a bad batch but about half of them had a horrific high-register scratchiness that was seemingly unfixable, they do feel really smooth though.
1:40 the THOCC won't STOP nor will the wobbliness.
I mean at least they don’t have leaf tick like jwicks, and wobble is not that noticable at a normal typing speed unless you have hypersensitive fingers.
The morandis also wobble and its driving me insane bought the venus switches hoping thats my end game
I was surprised you didn't mention the vertex v1 switches, I've been using them for a few months now and they are really great and thocky. The only downside is that they don't let any rgb through, but I don't mind that too much
How would these compare to the wisteria switches? Id love to see a video like this comparing cream thock and clack. Can we expect video’s like this for top 5 creamy and clacky aswell?
wow nice video!
hello milktook ... nice video as always. if you want tou get that " thocky sig" sound from switches, I definitely suggest you use the o-ring mounting in your neo70. because I found that neo70 is really clacky board even using PC in gasket dumble mounting (based on my experience using neo70)
keep it up man!
Thanks for the tip!
hello, wondering if the cherry switches on your website are of the hyperflide variant?
Have you had any experience with the durock ice king tactiles? If so how do they compare in deepness to the switches shown in the video?
@Milktooth are there Thocky and clicky switches out there?
Would be good to see a video on your favourites or ecommendations for those
The venus switches look tight
What lube do you reccomend for these switches?
I'd heavily recommend staying far away from the boba LT. They have a ticking problem that me and a friend found to be obnoxious. If you open them, they will tick. Regardless of what techniques you use to lube or open them.
might want to cover the ws pom+ switches
they are really deep and bassy when bottom out, but because they are light, the topout is marbly and higher pitched
Those are basically Gateron Smoothie recolors with a slightly higher bottom-out
Everywhere I’ve read are saying the invokeys black sesame are really thocky I will try them. I have Morandi and the getaeron bubblegum coming will
See
This video couldn’t have come at a better time. I just got a rainy75 and I wanna change out the switches for a better sound. I don’t want to get into key caps just yet.
Do the Venus/Neptune switches sound thin or no?
Would love to see top creamy switches
when yoinking a pack of switches can they be ordered without the factory loob?
At first i really like thock. Then pe foam comes around and everything is thock and it's getting boring. Then i went for claky-er sounding switch. But now after all of that. I still return to thock. We can never escapes...
Good video ❤
You can definitely find something good in-between, and without the PE foam! I know how you feel though, I really don't like the sound of most switches with PE foam, but I still do prefer a deeper sound in general. Keep looking and trying new switches!!!
Heya Kev! Can you do a video of Top 5/10 Hyper-Tactile switches?
What are hyper-tactile switches?
@@breezy0830 Things like Holy Pandas, U4Ts, WS Heavy Tactiles, etc.
ofc ths video appears on my feed after i bought switches to make a thocky keyboard
I'd also suggest the Vertex V1, similar sound to the TTC Venus but deeper
Wish Milktooth had em, so here I am waiting for them to ship from China 😭
I recommend Vertex V1 switches
U gotta try the MMD creams
I just bought bluish whites and it just delivered yesterday wth
you messed up the description label for the last 3 switch links. It says "Gateron Smoothie" 3 times
Fixed, thank you for the heads up
SO TTC Venus/Neptune for Linear switched with the least stem wobble and most smoothness?
I guess so. getting mine this week or next week, shall see
@@davidcoulombe3086 Nice, let us know how they are when you do.
Didnt the plastic on the u4ts change recently. Theyre not as deep anymore
I really want to find a switch with really pronounced tactility. I'm currently running baby kangaroos and I love them but I notice if I'm not constantly comparing to a linear I lose the tactility. I want something that constantly reminds me It's tactile.
You might want to try MP Tactile (SW x Haimu).
They have a unique Metal Pole that creates a poppyish sound (depends on the keeb config) and tactility. I haven't tried yet tbh, but already on my purchase list.
Too bad MP Tactile isn't available on Milktooth, tho.
Vertex V1 is not in the list
0:06 0:11 they sounded so close 😞
01:07 TTC Venus
01:12 TTC Neptune
01:59 Gateron Milky Yellow Pro
02:58 Wuque Studio WS Morandi
04:29 Gazzew U4T
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In case anyone wants to jump back and forth instantly to compare.
The WS Morandi sound lowest/deepest.
Milky yellows are the answer, least expensive for a really top tier switch imo
I was not a fan of the aqua kings at all. They are so incredibly muddy and I didnt get too much "thock" from them at all. The quinns tho, idk how they didn't make the list. Have been my go-to since I found them
Its been said before and I gotta say it again, morandis have lots of stem wobble even with films
Gateron Smoothies on the other hand are very tight with very little stem wobble and zero housing wobble.