It’s a long trip from the cam cover to the rod bearings. Those shavings have to go through the pickup, oil pump and filter before they start wiping out bearings. I don’t think I’d sell an engine rebuild until it’s necessary.
Man you are correct about everything you've said EXCEPT anyone has got to at least try to just replace the pump and tappet first before completely giving up on the engine. If it has clearly been neglected it will surely shorten it's life, but it may run for years, or it may tear up on the way home. While these problems are definitely caused by neglectful owners, mechanics that insist on telling customers that assuming the worst possible outcome is the only way to deal with an issue are not being helpful. What well informed person would not try to just fix the problem and change oil and see if not too much other internal damage has been done? If there is already an oil pressure issue then it's too late. If there's already other issues related to neglect like turbo or timing issues, then it might be time to consider giving up on the engine, otherwise it would be reasonable to spend the modest amount to replace the pump and tappet before considering spending thousands on a new engine.
Thank you for your feedback. I will say, the vehicle has definitely not been neglected because I'm a firm believer in preventative maintenance and not reactive maintenance. That said, I have planned to look at the high pressure fuel pump as well since I would only take a few extra moments to rule out after inspecting.
I own one of these in a 2017 year model. I do follow a strict maintenance program. I heard someone say they recommend replacing that cam tappet under the fuel pump at around 60K miles. Is that something you recommend, or is frequent oil changes good enough to prevent this issue?
lol i saw that video youre talkking about and first thing that came to mind was were the hell did all that shaving metal went and he just says to replace and forget!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow people be careful
haha.. I think of you as Mr. 1.5L ecoboost now :) She was lacking common sense.. cars today are pretty idiot-proof with OLMs and tire pressure monitors and super long intervals for coolant and plugs. But you still have to follow some basic rules like checking the oil and coolant levels once a month, and not driving the thing like a fiend when it's 5 degrees out and not warmed up yet. Keep up the great videos!
Honestly, Ford could easily fix this issue so it would not continue to happen. Change the OLM to 25 percent less time or miles and a better bucket for the cam lobe to ride on. Pretty simple and cheap.
I only see this on the vehicles not maintained very well and its not common honestly so I'm not so sure they really need to change anything honestly, this pump is one of the main reasons these new engines make so much noise, they are extremely loud and clacky clicky tappy
Hey Ford boss, new subscriber here. I have a 17 F-150 2.7 and I'm getting very low gas mileage. I'm getting about 12.4 right now. I've changed the spark plugs so far and still the same. Get oil change regularly still the same. I'm thinking about getting checked out to the dealer. Do you think the high pressure fuel pump could be the problem?
No as long as you're having good success with your performance overall if the only thing that's lacking is a fuel mileage it could be something else probably not the high pressure pump
hey i just did a timing belt/ Water pump on a 1.5 with 130k on it. water pump went out. everything went pretty smooth but the new timing belt and tensioner is making some noise that kinda has me concerned. if you get a chance i have a vid on my channel thanks alot. your videos are great.
no if you get metal shavings in your engine you may as well just run it as long as you can because that motor is going to be done, once you get metal shavings in an engine you're on borrowed time
What is causing the tappet to wear down? Low pressure pump in the fuel tank? Bad camshaft? Something else? I have had my vehicle since New and have changed oil every 5k as I was told by the dealer.
A 2018 ford Fusion SE 1.5L ecoboost has the same issue with error code P0087. So do you think the cam shaft has to be replaced as well? How much will a repair like that generally cost?
I have a 2016 Ford Fusion with a 1.5 l engine. 173,678 miles, with a new timing belt less than a week old. After getting it out of the shop and driving it for about a hundred miles it began to hesitate or misfire going up hills, or any sudden acceleration. It hasn't threw a hard code, but my mode 6 data logged 21 misfires on cylinder 6, and three misfires on cylinder 3. Needless to say I had replaced the coils on the cylinders as well as all the spark plugs. That said, it still misfires under a load. The long-term fuel trim is positive 7 roughly and the short term for you trim fluctuates between 0 and -3, which I believe as well within specs. At one point I received a P025A which I believe is Fuel pump module control circuit open. So any guidance you can give me concerning the Diagnostics and troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated.
The info dont match up It's a 4 cylinder you gave me a misfire count on cylinder 6 but there is no cylinder 6 Need to make sure the shop reset KAM keep Alive memory You could have a fuel pump driver module starting to act up and needs replaced
Thank you so much for your quick response. I don't know how I typed 6 when it should have been cylinder number 2. To make matters worse the number two on the keyboard/keypad is nowhere near 6. I appreciate you validating the fuel pump control module, so I will look harder in that direction. Again, thank you for the quick response and I appreciate your videos.
As I said you can replace the bucket and the fuel pump do an engine flush and keep running it as long as you can until you have to get a new engine some people have been lucky and never needed a new engine
I am now having the exact same problem you mentioned. I have changed the bucket just two weeks ago, and now I in faced with the same problem! The mechanics are telling me I have to change the Camshaft! Do you have any idea what should i do now?? What do you think I should do? What should I get to fix or change?? Please leave your advice because I just parked my car at home, I am not willing to put my car under the hand of those fake mechanics.
The problem is you can change the camshaft now and pay all the labor to do that but what's going to end up having later is it's going to come back to bite you because you have metal in the oil and even though you think you got it all out you're probably not getting it all out and now that metal is inside that engine unfortunately you're going to have to have a oil cooler flush done the right thing to do would be putting a new long black in that vehicle
What is 1.5 eco boost fuel pressure supposed to read at normal psi on the OBDII? Have 2018 sel throwing poo78. Changed fuel sensor on rail but bucking still didn't stop. Also is the high pressure fuel pump supposed to be clicking/ticking while running?
I have 2017 Escape with 80k miles oil changed every 5k miles full synthetic. Got code for low fuel pressure and engine had no power. High press pump ticking so I took off. The bucket was completely worn through with end of pump damaged also as well as cam lobe looks damaged. This motor is clean otherwise shame on Ford for not making a stronger bucket. Now Im replacing pump and bucket and hoping for the best.
Ford Australia service requirment on the 1.5 ecoboost Escape is 1 year or 15000 klms which ever comes first . So maybe dont buy a used one in Australia
Im changing out my fuel pump over the weekend . i would like to change out the Bucket/Tappet also. Do you have the part number for the part?? 2017 ford Escape se 1.5 ecoboost. Tham nk you great info.
So what it the solution then if you take off the high pressure fuel pump and pull out the bucket and see it's worn out? I have a 2.0l Ecoboost with code p0087. I get regular maintenance and oil changes so the car is well maintained. Some suggestions have been replace high pressure fuel pump and the Follower or replace the fuel pressure sensor both high and low. 🤷 Thanks!
Well once the follower is damaged there is pieces of metal now in the oil all over in the engine You are on borrowed time at thay point Replaced the bucket, chage the oil a couple times over 1000 mile period and that's it
@@FordBossMe Thanks for the reply. If I'm getting a code p0087 is there anything I could check before pulling the high pressure pump. I mean I'm sure you could check a 100 different things right? But anything obvious or likely? I know the fuel pressure sensor near the pump on the fuel rail part# cm5250 many have changed with this engine and it's worked. I just have a little rough idle and minor sluggish pickup but it only does it at certain times. Other times it runs great 🤷
So I'm having this problem I'm going to be putting on my second bucket and hpfp because it wore throw what is going to be the bust route to get rid of the slug/ clean it up ? I do have some pic's if u need me to send them. Thanks Dan
Go on Amazon and find a product called BG epr and use it every 1500 miles and keep flushing or They have a big industrial more powerful kit it's called engine restoration and I will clean that engine out really good but it's very strong and very potent and you better hope that when you clean it out you don't dislodge some things that gets in areas that it shouldn't be
2017 ford fusion SE 1.5 runs fine then after a while it shuts off and won't crank have to let it sit for a few hrs then cranks and runs like nothing never happens you got any advice for me boss?
Hi I really have the same problem of what are you talking about I have a ford fusion se 1.5L my fuel pump camshaft follower keel the car running slow and the starter is cranking this peace is giving me a pain in Azz , and I would like to get advice of what I need to fix that problem
So I have a 2016 Ford Fusion 1.5 Ecoboost that is making a loud knocking/tapping noise coming from the high pressure fuel pump and the acceleration of the car is so slow, not safe to drive. I put a new head gasket on the car and put it all back together, the car ran fine with no abnormal noises, but has slow acceleration, I changed the fuel pressure sensor and it ran great and had the original acceleration. I then ran the vehicle hard and the observation from paragraph #1 came out of nowhere I used the original fuel pressure sensor(just for curiosity) and replaced injector seals still the same knocking noise The only reason I changed the fuel pressure sensor was because the car was hard starting and low power/acceleration Now it has hard starts, has terrible acceleration and the knocking noise in the high pressure fuel pump. What advice could you give?
You're going to have to go through and recheck everything that you did starting with the high pressure fuel pump pull it off check the bucket check everything
@@FordBossMe Thank you for your quick response. I have done that and nothing seems to be wrong with it. Is there anything specific I would be looking for in that area?
@@greenlion7709 first of all I don't even know what the knocking noise is second of all I would have to have the vehicle in order to really diagnosed with this is such a big problem for a comment section
I just pulled my hpfp off and the cam follower is worn down bad to the point it was wearing the bottom of the pump. The cam lobe has a lot of built up. What is my next move.
you are a bad ass you do know what you are doing its sad, ford put out sub par product it cant do this or that and forbid if you do this if I spend 30 thousand dollars al I care about it does its job get me to from point a to b and change oill 3000 mile
Hey Ford Boss..I have 2014 1.5 with 170k. It takes about 6-8 seconds to start. It idles for a short period then dies. Previous owner put in a new fuel pump and a new high pressure pump. Thoughts?
I bought a 2013 fusion 2.0 ecoboost with 110k miles. I’m not sure it was maintained well enough and I’d like to replace the tappet bucket and o ring on the HPFP haven’t worked on high pressure fuel lines before so I’m procedurally ignorant about de pressuring the system, finding BDC on the crankshaft, what parts to not reuse (bolts, high pressure fittings). Any advice or tutorials you could recommend. I figure I’d try before taking it to the dealer? Thanks!
I've seen people reuse everything and only replace the bucket and be completely fine but by the book, you replace the bucket, the high pressure fuel line, the screws that hold down the high pressure fuel pump, the O-ring for the high pressure fuel pump. But really I've seen people just pull high pressure fuel pump up take a magnetic pocket screwdriver pick the bucket out, take the new bucket put some oil around it put it back down in the hole, put the high pressure fuel pump back nice and easy making sure the surface is clean, and then replace the fuel line on it and just snuggle up nice and snug a little bit past where it was before but not going crazy and start up and monitor To pull it off you don't have to do anything crazy You just take each screw and you unscrew it a little bit by little bit on each side and just lift the pump nice and easy pull up and out. And then you can take the old bucket out look down inside and you can see where the cam was at and you just have to turn the engine to get it to go back down a little it's not going to be perfect and then you just nice and easy snug your bolts backup I've seen guys do it without even running the cam back down to where they had it.. just slowly tightening the bolts up without damaging anything It's super easy, just all depends on how you want to do it and I can't really do another tutorial with as many videos as I already have out on this motor unless something comes in so you could be waiting for a long time.
@@FordBossMe any tricks to de pressure the fuel line? unplug the battery overnight? Unplug the wire to the pump and run the engine till it stalls? Or are those bad ideas?
@@boulderghost4457 honestly I'll be 100% honest with you I let it sit overnight and then the next day I just wrap a big heavy thick rag around it and I crack the line loose and Let it bleed out into the rag it doesn't actually spray out enough to really do any harm
@@FordBossMe thank you I have one more question my fusion feeling like it's missing and sputtering kinda like it's not getting fuel only does it at speeds above 55 and there is no check engine light have is this a common problem with these cars thanks you for help
Question,, I just had the hpfp off my car to time the engine and now it is throwing a p00c6 code and not even kicking, after reassembly, I have cranked it's quite a bit, an it has fuel at the rail
I'm looking for hpfp for a lariat 4x4 2018 3.5 ecoboost and can't find with the original part number and there's no cross reference numbers any help will be highly appreciated thanks. Original part # HL3E-9178-AA
You're going to have to tell me more about the situation here you didn't explain did it damage the camshaft did it damage the high pressure pump that you replace the high pressure pump did you replace the bucket tappet You didn't tell me anything
Used cars are a big risk. It is not like a panther where you could let oil changes slide a bit. Turbos and HPFPs really need to be maintained with top quality oil. I think even the OCIs on the trip computer are too long.
yeah I agree.. I know you get a lot of value out of buying a used car, and if you know what you are doing you can find a good one, but there is definitely risk there for the average person.
I have 2015 ford escape it shuts off if I drive 28 miles just dies no codes on dash have had it put on machine no fault code shows up has only 10000. Miles has been oil changes it shuts down 4 times then it clears out can get back home sometimes it doesn't do this.
You're going to have to check the fuel pump driver module or the fuel pump itself more than likely but with no codes to go off of I can't give you anything more than that
One of my customers has a 2018 Ford Fusion with the 1.5L ecoboost. It has a loud knocking noise at idle that goes away when you increase the engine speed. It sounds to me like connecting rod knock. Have you ever encountered this noise on a Fusion or Escape with this engine? And if so, what's causing it?
After the pumps are replaced does the computer need to be reset with a scan tool? And if the bucket is chewed up, how do you get the metal shavings out? Will it need a complete tear down? Thanks in advance.
Once you get metal shavings in there you can try to flush it as best as you can but you're not going to probably get all the metal out and your you're on borrowed time There's no real good answer for anything other than tear down or replacement
At the moment I don't it's in one of my videos where I talk about the 1.5 L coolant intrusion build you can look through the part numbers on one of my videos and find it I'm currently busy during the day so whenever people ask me specific questions like this I can't answer them right away and I'm definitely not going to walk all the way across the building to get one single part number and then come back you have to remind me first thing in the morning not in the middle of the afternoon
Wow! Great video. I love professionals like you that ain't scared to speak your mind. On the other hand, I despise these little freaky internet "mechanics" and their quick and dirty solutions. Go play a game and leave it to the pro's, internet "mechanics". People with decades on the job will run rings around your monetized tripe. Keep it up mate!
She a nurse . Have you gone to quake ford oil service center they are slow a shit she make 30.00 dollars hour She did not care . If I saw your you tube channel in 2019 I WOULD NEVER BOUGHT A 2019 ESCAPE I would spent my money repairing my gmc truck that's easy to work on and would been a lot happier
I have a 2013 fusion and I found the same problem the bucket has a whole in it and took the cam valve cover off and has black slushy oil only underneath that fuel pressure pump. What should I do next to fix this? Also everything Ike I start the car in the morning blue smoke comes out does this have anything to do with it?
You're going to have to flush that engine as best as you can You're going to have to get a new bucket, New oil and filter and you're going to need a new valve cover gasket Change everything while you're there but to be honest with you anytime you get in metal in the oil you cannot get it out of the engine 100% and you're on borrowed time so who knows how long the cars going to last could be one month could be two years could be 20 years
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I'm glad you are saying it straight forward with no bull shit. Maintenance is key as you said
It’s a long trip from the cam cover to the rod bearings. Those shavings have to go through the pickup, oil pump and filter before they start wiping out bearings. I don’t think I’d sell an engine rebuild until it’s necessary.
I agree
Man you are correct about everything you've said EXCEPT anyone has got to at least try to just replace the pump and tappet first before completely giving up on the engine. If it has clearly been neglected it will surely shorten it's life, but it may run for years, or it may tear up on the way home. While these problems are definitely caused by neglectful owners, mechanics that insist on telling customers that assuming the worst possible outcome is the only way to deal with an issue are not being helpful. What well informed person would not try to just fix the problem and change oil and see if not too much other internal damage has been done? If there is already an oil pressure issue then it's too late. If there's already other issues related to neglect like turbo or timing issues, then it might be time to consider giving up on the engine, otherwise it would be reasonable to spend the modest amount to replace the pump and tappet before considering spending thousands on a new engine.
Thank you for your feedback. I will say, the vehicle has definitely not been neglected because I'm a firm believer in preventative maintenance and not reactive maintenance. That said, I have planned to look at the high pressure fuel pump as well since I would only take a few extra moments to rule out after inspecting.
I own one of these in a 2017 year model. I do follow a strict maintenance program. I heard someone say they recommend replacing that cam tappet under the fuel pump at around 60K miles. Is that something you recommend, or is frequent oil changes good enough to prevent this issue?
Thank you for all the info on the 1.5. Quick question if you got the time. How do you check for fuel pressure on these engines?
Scan tool
Rite on Boss, true stuff.
lol i saw that video youre talkking about and first thing that came to mind was were the hell did all that shaving metal went and he just says to replace and forget!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow people be careful
People just don't understand how easily a neglected engine can self destruct. This is one of those areas that someone CANNOT "cheap out" on.
haha.. I think of you as Mr. 1.5L ecoboost now :) She was lacking common sense.. cars today are pretty idiot-proof with OLMs and tire pressure monitors and super long intervals for coolant and plugs. But you still have to follow some basic rules like checking the oil and coolant levels once a month, and not driving the thing like a fiend when it's 5 degrees out and not warmed up yet. Keep up the great videos!
Yes sir you got it
Just Uploaded one on the fusion and the difference in removal
Good video thank you for advice
Could you add me on Instagram or something I keep having a shut off problem with a fuel related problem
Needs a bigger magnet in the pan . lol.
Honestly, Ford could easily fix this issue so it would not continue to happen. Change the OLM to 25 percent less time or miles and a better bucket for the cam lobe to ride on. Pretty simple and cheap.
I only see this on the vehicles not maintained very well and its not common honestly so I'm not so sure they really need to change anything honestly,
this pump is one of the main reasons these new engines make so much noise, they are extremely loud and clacky clicky tappy
Hey Ford boss, new subscriber here. I have a 17 F-150 2.7 and I'm getting very low gas mileage. I'm getting about 12.4 right now. I've changed the spark plugs so far and still the same. Get oil change regularly still the same. I'm thinking about getting checked out to the dealer. Do you think the high pressure fuel pump could be the problem?
No as long as you're having good success with your performance overall if the only thing that's lacking is a fuel mileage it could be something else probably not the high pressure pump
hey i just did a timing belt/ Water pump on a 1.5 with 130k on it. water pump went out. everything went pretty smooth but the new timing belt and tensioner is making some noise that kinda has me concerned. if you get a chance i have a vid on my channel thanks alot. your videos are great.
I replied
So what's the recommendation? Would an oil change and filter be sufficient to get all the metal shavings out of the engine or is it something major?
no if you get metal shavings in your engine you may as well just run it as long as you can because that motor is going to be done, once you get metal shavings in an engine you're on borrowed time
You have to replace the engine because metal shavings get in everything
What is causing the tappet to wear down? Low pressure pump in the fuel tank? Bad camshaft? Something else?
I have had my vehicle since New and have changed oil every 5k as I was told by the dealer.
LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND A DIRTY ENGINE DESIGN
A 2018 ford Fusion SE 1.5L ecoboost has the same issue with error code P0087. So do you think the cam shaft has to be replaced as well? How much will a repair like that generally cost?
Honestly if you have camshaft where the all that metal is down in the engine and you can't get it out one hundred percent I would replace the engine
I have a 2016 Ford Fusion with a 1.5 l engine. 173,678 miles, with a new timing belt less than a week old. After getting it out of the shop and driving it for about a hundred miles it began to hesitate or misfire going up hills, or any sudden acceleration. It hasn't threw a hard code, but my mode 6 data logged 21 misfires on cylinder 6, and three misfires on cylinder 3. Needless to say I had replaced the coils on the cylinders as well as all the spark plugs. That said, it still misfires under a load. The long-term fuel trim is positive 7 roughly and the short term for you trim fluctuates between 0 and -3, which I believe as well within specs. At one point I received a P025A which I believe is
Fuel pump module control circuit open. So any guidance you can give me concerning the Diagnostics and troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated.
The info dont match up
It's a 4 cylinder you gave me a misfire count on cylinder 6 but there is no cylinder 6
Need to make sure the shop reset KAM keep Alive memory
You could have a fuel pump driver module starting to act up and needs replaced
Thank you so much for your quick response. I don't know how I typed 6 when it should have been cylinder number 2. To make matters worse the number two on the keyboard/keypad is nowhere near 6. I appreciate you validating the fuel pump control module, so I will look harder in that direction. Again, thank you for the quick response and I appreciate your videos.
Coolent intrusion issue
So if there are no other codes besides fuel and your bucket is bad what do you recommend to do besides replacing the engine?
As I said you can replace the bucket and the fuel pump do an engine flush and keep running it as long as you can until you have to get a new engine some people have been lucky and never needed a new engine
I am now having the exact same problem you mentioned. I have changed the bucket just two weeks ago, and now I in faced with the same problem! The mechanics are telling me I have to change the Camshaft! Do you have any idea what should i do now?? What do you think I should do? What should I get to fix or change?? Please leave your advice because I just parked my car at home, I am not willing to put my car under the hand of those fake mechanics.
The problem is you can change the camshaft now and pay all the labor to do that but what's going to end up having later is it's going to come back to bite you because you have metal in the oil and even though you think you got it all out you're probably not getting it all out and now that metal is inside that engine unfortunately you're going to have to have a oil cooler flush done the right thing to do would be putting a new long black in that vehicle
@@FordBossMe Thanks a lot for responding sir! But, may i know what do you mean by new long black??
What is 1.5 eco boost fuel pressure supposed to read at normal psi on the OBDII? Have 2018 sel throwing poo78. Changed fuel sensor on rail but bucking still didn't stop. Also is the high pressure fuel pump supposed to be clicking/ticking while running?
Yes, did you check the bucket under the hp fuel pump? If you didn't you should have based on what you seen in this video
I have 2017 Escape with 80k miles oil changed every 5k miles full synthetic. Got code for low fuel pressure and engine had no power. High press pump ticking so I took off. The bucket was completely worn through with end of pump damaged also as well as cam lobe looks damaged. This motor is clean otherwise shame on Ford for not making a stronger bucket. Now Im replacing pump and bucket and hoping for the best.
Ford Australia service requirment on the 1.5 ecoboost Escape is 1 year or 15000 klms which ever comes first . So maybe dont buy a used one in Australia
Im changing out my fuel pump over the weekend . i would like to change out the Bucket/Tappet also. Do you have the part number for the part?? 2017 ford Escape se 1.5 ecoboost.
Tham
nk you great info.
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Do you need to change that bucket or u just doing it to do it?
So what it the solution then if you take off the high pressure fuel pump and pull out the bucket and see it's worn out? I have a 2.0l Ecoboost with code p0087. I get regular maintenance and oil changes so the car is well maintained. Some suggestions have been replace high pressure fuel pump and the Follower or replace the fuel pressure sensor both high and low. 🤷
Thanks!
Well once the follower is damaged there is pieces of metal now in the oil all over in the engine
You are on borrowed time at thay point
Replaced the bucket, chage the oil a couple times over 1000 mile period and that's it
@@FordBossMe Thanks for the reply. If I'm getting a code p0087 is there anything I could check before pulling the high pressure pump. I mean I'm sure you could check a 100 different things right? But anything obvious or likely? I know the fuel pressure sensor near the pump on the fuel rail part# cm5250 many have changed with this engine and it's worked. I just have a little rough idle and minor sluggish pickup but it only does it at certain times. Other times it runs great 🤷
So I'm having this problem I'm going to be putting on my second bucket and hpfp because it wore throw what is going to be the bust route to get rid of the slug/ clean it up ? I do have some pic's if u need me to send them. Thanks Dan
Go on Amazon and find a product called BG epr and use it every 1500 miles and keep flushing or
They have a big industrial more powerful kit it's called engine restoration and I will clean that engine out really good but it's very strong and very potent and you better hope that when you clean it out you don't dislodge some things that gets in areas that it shouldn't be
Hi, have the similar problem. Is changing the intake camshaft necessary of just the cleaning and more often oil change is enough?
2017 ford fusion SE 1.5 runs fine then after a while it shuts off and won't crank have to let it sit for a few hrs then cranks and runs like nothing never happens you got any advice for me boss?
Fuel pump driver module I'd start there
Hi I really have the same problem of what are you talking about I have a ford fusion se 1.5L my fuel pump camshaft follower keel the car running slow and the starter is cranking this peace is giving me a pain in Azz , and I would like to get advice of what I need to fix that problem
If it's worn through you'll need major internal repairs depending on how bad the cam is
So would you buy a cheap 2017 escape with hpfp problem at 130k new phazers and belt or nah?
Nahhhh
Oil pumps don't like metal shavings either.
So I have a 2016 Ford Fusion 1.5 Ecoboost that is making a loud knocking/tapping noise coming from the high pressure fuel pump and the acceleration of the car is so slow, not safe to drive.
I put a new head gasket on the car and put it all back together, the car ran fine with no abnormal noises, but has slow acceleration, I changed the fuel pressure sensor and it ran great and had the original acceleration.
I then ran the vehicle hard and the observation from paragraph #1 came out of nowhere
I used the original fuel pressure sensor(just for curiosity) and replaced injector seals still the same knocking noise
The only reason I changed the fuel pressure sensor was because the car was hard starting and low power/acceleration
Now it has hard starts, has terrible acceleration and the knocking noise in the high pressure fuel pump. What advice could you give?
You're going to have to go through and recheck everything that you did starting with the high pressure fuel pump pull it off check the bucket check everything
@@FordBossMe Thank you for your quick response. I have done that and nothing seems to be wrong with it. Is there anything specific I would be looking for in that area?
@@greenlion7709 first of all I don't even know what the knocking noise is second of all I would have to have the vehicle in order to really diagnosed with this is such a big problem for a comment section
@@FordBossMe Could I send a video to you and see your thoughts of it?
I just pulled my hpfp off and the cam follower is worn down bad to the point it was wearing the bottom of the pump. The cam lobe has a lot of built up. What is my next move.
If you can wait until the morning I'll make a video on this I want you to watch the follow-up video
you are a bad ass you do know what you are doing its sad, ford put out sub par product it cant do this or that and forbid if you do this if I spend 30 thousand dollars al I care about it does its job get me to from point a to b and change oill 3000 mile
you nailed it, just maintain it and it will go A to B.
Hey Ford Boss..I have 2014 1.5 with 170k. It takes about 6-8 seconds to start. It idles for a short period then dies. Previous owner put in a new fuel pump and a new high pressure pump. Thoughts?
I mean I would have to really look at it to be honest with you I can't give you any things specifically other than maybe the fuel pump driver module
@@FordBossMe Thanks for the reply. Could a hole in the bucket cause that issue?
I bought a 2013 fusion 2.0 ecoboost with 110k miles. I’m not sure it was maintained well enough and I’d like to replace the tappet bucket and o ring on the HPFP haven’t worked on high pressure fuel lines before so I’m procedurally ignorant about de pressuring the system, finding BDC on the crankshaft, what parts to not reuse (bolts, high pressure fittings). Any advice or tutorials you could recommend. I figure I’d try before taking it to the dealer? Thanks!
I've seen people reuse everything and only replace the bucket and be completely fine
but by the book, you replace the bucket, the high pressure fuel line, the screws that hold down the high pressure fuel pump, the O-ring for the high pressure fuel pump.
But really I've seen people just pull high pressure fuel pump up take a magnetic pocket screwdriver pick the bucket out, take the new bucket put some oil around it put it back down in the hole, put the high pressure fuel pump back nice and easy making sure the surface is clean, and then replace the fuel line on it and just snuggle up nice and snug a little bit past where it was before but not going crazy and start up and monitor
To pull it off you don't have to do anything crazy
You just take each screw and you unscrew it a little bit by little bit on each side and just lift the pump nice and easy pull up and out.
And then you can take the old bucket out look down inside and you can see where the cam was at and you just have to turn the engine to get it to go back down a little it's not going to be perfect and then you just nice and easy snug your bolts backup
I've seen guys do it without even running the cam back down to where they had it.. just slowly tightening the bolts up without damaging anything
It's super easy, just all depends on how you want to do it and I can't really do another tutorial with as many videos as I already have out on this motor unless something comes in so you could be waiting for a long time.
@@FordBossMe thank you! You explained everything perfectly! Subscribed!
@@boulderghost4457 I'm like half-asleep laying in bed when I voice texted that I went back and cleaned some of it up I do apologize
@@FordBossMe any tricks to de pressure the fuel line? unplug the battery overnight? Unplug the wire to the pump and run the engine till it stalls? Or are those bad ideas?
@@boulderghost4457 honestly I'll be 100% honest with you
I let it sit overnight and then the next day I just wrap a big heavy thick rag around it and I crack the line loose and Let it bleed out into the rag it doesn't actually spray out enough to really do any harm
Hi question where is the fuel filter on a 2013 se 1.6 fusion does it have both an inline ad on the pump or just one on the pump thanks
You only have a lifetime in tank fuel filter on the pump that's it
@@FordBossMe thank you I have one more question my fusion feeling like it's missing and sputtering kinda like it's not getting fuel only does it at speeds above 55 and there is no check engine light have is this a common problem with these cars thanks you for help
Have the same problem, no CEL, all air and turbo sensors replaced.. have you found the issue ?
Question,, I just had the hpfp off my car to time the engine and now it is throwing a p00c6 code and not even kicking, after reassembly, I have cranked it's quite a bit, an it has fuel at the rail
Did you pull any wires off like any grounds on the back of the cylinder head or over by the airbox anywhere
Did you reset the keep alive memory
@@FordBossMe I have not
@@FordBossMe I do not believe so
Can you install it wrong? Ford said you been to install it while the cam is a BSC, I installed it while the motor was still on tdc from setting Timing
I'm looking for hpfp for a lariat 4x4 2018 3.5 ecoboost and can't find with the original part number and there's no cross reference numbers any help will be highly appreciated thanks. Original
part # HL3E-9178-AA
Send me a vin
Poissorichard.rp@gmail.com
So mine went out a day ago the little bucket could I just replace mine and mount the fuel pressure back on and it’ll be ok?
You're going to have to tell me more about the situation here you didn't explain did it damage the camshaft did it damage the high pressure pump that you replace the high pressure pump did you replace the bucket tappet
You didn't tell me anything
@@FordBossMe It didn’t damage the camshaft but it did put a small hole into the bucket is all the fuel pressure pump is still ok
Used cars are a big risk. It is not like a panther where you could let oil changes slide a bit. Turbos and HPFPs really need to be maintained with top quality oil. I think even the OCIs on the trip computer are too long.
most certainly
I can't stand letting my tc get close to 3000 miles
yeah I agree.. I know you get a lot of value out of buying a used car, and if you know what you are doing you can find a good one, but there is definitely risk there for the average person.
I have 2015 ford escape it shuts off if I drive 28 miles just dies no codes on dash have had it put on machine no fault code shows up has only 10000. Miles has been oil changes it shuts down 4 times then it clears out can get back home sometimes it doesn't do this.
You're going to have to check the fuel pump driver module or the fuel pump itself more than likely but with no codes to go off of I can't give you anything more than that
@@FordBossMe thanks
One of my customers has a 2018 Ford Fusion with the 1.5L ecoboost. It has a loud knocking noise at idle that goes away when you increase the engine speed. It sounds to me like connecting rod knock. Have you ever encountered this noise on a Fusion or Escape with this engine? And if so, what's causing it?
Is there any way that you can give me a video of this happening?
Are there any codes being flag?
No sir
No codes that is.
I don't know how to send you a video on this media.
After the pumps are replaced does the computer need to be reset with a scan tool? And if the bucket is chewed up, how do you get the metal shavings out? Will it need a complete tear down? Thanks in advance.
Once you get metal shavings in there you can try to flush it as best as you can but you're not going to probably get all the metal out and your you're on borrowed time
There's no real good answer for anything other than tear down or replacement
No computer reset is necessary
Do you have a part number for the tappet?
At the moment I don't it's in one of my videos where I talk about the 1.5 L coolant intrusion build you can look through the part numbers on one of my videos and find it I'm currently busy during the day so whenever people ask me specific questions like this I can't answer them right away and I'm definitely not going to walk all the way across the building to get one single part number and then come back you have to remind me first thing in the morning not in the middle of the afternoon
Wow!
Great video. I love professionals like you that ain't scared to speak your mind. On the other hand, I despise these little freaky internet "mechanics" and their quick and dirty solutions.
Go play a game and leave it to the pro's, internet "mechanics". People with decades on the job will run rings around your monetized tripe.
Keep it up mate!
She a nurse . Have you gone to quake ford oil service center they are slow a shit she make 30.00 dollars hour She did not care . If I saw your you tube channel in 2019 I WOULD NEVER BOUGHT A 2019 ESCAPE I would spent my money repairing my gmc truck that's easy to work on and would been a lot happier
there is a point to my video brother
I just want the owners informed that's all.
I have the same issue going on right now need to know like what's the next step I should do
I have a 2013 fusion and I found the same problem the bucket has a whole in it and took the cam valve cover off and has black slushy oil only underneath that fuel pressure pump. What should I do next to fix this? Also everything Ike I start the car in the morning blue smoke comes out does this have anything to do with it?
You probably have little metal shavings in your oil
You're going to have to flush that engine as best as you can
You're going to have to get a new bucket, New oil and filter and you're going to need a new valve cover gasket
Change everything while you're there but to be honest with you anytime you get in metal in the oil you cannot get it out of the engine 100% and you're on borrowed time so who knows how long the cars going to last could be one month could be two years could be 20 years