this has to be the sickest live read that has ever been seen on youtube , the call is virtually impossible yet he makes it , this is super high level poker right here !!
Simplismente brilhante! Jogada extremamente técnica e só tenho que tirar o chapéu para o Davidi. Essa sacada de sair de lead no river e o re-raise, que polarizou a mão do adversário foi top! Jogadores medianos dariam check/fold nesse river (o check deixaria o range de mãos do adversário mais abrangente e o blefe teria um peso muito maior), esse bet, essa volta, colocou o cara de fato em blefe ou na sequência, elimimando pares, dois pares e outras combinações que obviamente só dariam call ou fold. uma verdadeira aula de poker.
What makes this even more impressive is that it's againat an asian guy. I played low-stakes poker for several years. I was a winning player but nowhere near pro level. I was not well-versed on GTO strategy, so was forced to rely on live reads more often than I should have. Asians were always the hardest to read. By far.
just amazing how skillful players we have on youtube , none of you made such call on even 11$ buy in tournament , in my opinion kitai is one of the greatest tournament player
i really think about the mindgame after the overraise to 1,5 million. there is a lot to it : usually a huge raise like this means weakness, obv not for value and wanting the enemy to fold. but they have deeper thoughts to it and its more like : if i raise so huge, it usually looks like a bluff but kitai knows that i will try that to get max value and some sort of a hero call. its up to kitai to make the right decision but in this case he was so damn right.
smart investors adjust to the message of changing markets and this is one of those cases where that is in play. It made a lot of sense. With 3 to 1 to call, its profitable even to be correct one third of the time and this is one of the situations where it can only be very strong or very weak and then you ask the question if this ace is good enough to be holdings of very weak.
There actually was a small tell at 1:27 if you can soulread (approximately 0.1% of the population have the ability to read miniscule emotional changes in facial expressions) but you are right in that Kitai didn't seem to pick it up. By the turn it did take something special to continue calling down Chen's raises, especially to pull the bluff.
The guest commentator explains it well. Chen's river raise was so polarising that he (Chen) either had the straight or had a total bluff as if Chen had medium strength hands on that board he would just call with showdown value. His raise showed Kitai that he either had the nuts or had no showdown value therefore Kitai decided that he had more buffs in his range after taking that line than straights.
Polarized hand, he raises your bluff/blocking bet on the river with a straight or with air and he calls you with a pair. 50% he was good with A high and he went for it. Great call.
exactly!! the overbet by Chen is what really made Davidi think Ace high is good here. A very good read, but idk about greatest all time. Looking someone up with Ace high is really not that crazy in heads-up play.
I really don't think this call is +ev in the long run. Theres just such a ridiculously thin amount of hand combinations that he actually beats here. His showdown value is just so poor that I don't think he is even ahead of many bluffs here. Although it looks sick and i rate kitai for having the balls to make the call I think that's being overly results based. He's just ahead here such a tiny % of the time.
ponder this...where does EV sit with leveling wars? Nowhere. Because the two ideas cannot be compared to each other. This was a leveling war, EV does not exist in this paradigm.
I think this call makes a lot of sense and its a very powerful call. There is no hand on that board that should raise the river with the exception of KQ, or perhaps an overly aggressive 8. An 8 is likely barreling the turn because he develops double gut shot outs and can get a 7, 5, or 9 to fold.. and there are few combination of developed spade outs. KQ also might barrel the turn again as it also develops outs. Chens likely holdings are, AIR (very high percentage). The only issue with the board is its very tough not to hit this board with at least something. The crux to the whole thing though is no hand other then KQ really wants to play this way.
Yeah, the raise on the river doesn't make much sense. The only hands that can raise for value are Q8 and KQ, and both seem like they would happily barrel turn with equity.
+dochmbi Actually, I think hands like 78,98 all could check back turn with showdown value. Now on the river, either of those hands would also raise. Great call from Kitai tho.
Great call. My 2 cents are that the check on the turn was Chen's blunder because its really hard for him to rep an 8 at the river. 1) Any made straight is betting for value on the turn (probably) ie 10-8 and 6-8, just because it looks like such a steal spot where his range could be potentially wide open. Remember, 3-bet pot and pre-flop 3bettor checked twice. 2) I also believe an agro guy like Chen that he's betting any turned gutshot/opened ender, or 1 pair plus gutshot.
What about 8-6? This is the sickest call I've ever seen simply because of board texture. It's kinda hard to put your opponent on nothing with this board!
John Smith This is not a good call at all... you cannot bet/ call that river, with that hand, and make a profit in the long run. It was still the good decision at this specific moment, and thats why poker is fun!
I think he just changed his mind during the river bettings. He probably thought his A high was beat by a pair so he wanted to bluff / blockng bet the river trying to induce a fold or a cheap showdwon. Once he got raised he figured his A high could actually be good since the opp range hand was completly polarized (either straight or air). Great play!
Chen would only value bet a straight on the river.. an 8 or eventually kq.. otherwise he is bluffing... great read . Kitai knew it, thats why he made a blocking bet (30% pot size) on the river...
block bet when you have aces high?what are you talking about?....and you say ''otherwise he is bluffing''....yeah can bluffing...... but with what hand????..i can tell you over 10 BLUFFING hands that chen could have...and he would still win this pot.....like....pair 2..pair 4..pair 6 A5 A7 AJ AQ AK........so a call here is just bad 99% of the time.......a re-raise is much better...if you have a read on th other player
all this hands u just wrote : pair 2..pair 4..pair 6 A5 A7 AJ AQ AK. are not bluffs, they have value. and how can he re-raise the river with those kind of hands? it has no sense. kitai's process thinking was perfect, he is a millionaire thx to this game, me and u are not. so we should give him credit for this great call, i mean he KNEW what to do, it wasnt a random call
kariba25 Just think Hassad means that with the other hands (2,4, 5, 7...) chen has (or is likely) to call the 30% blocking bet, he only 3bets for value with an 8 or if he has no showdwn value at all, so Kitai's smart enough to know chen's either pure bluffing ore pure valuing, and this is something kitais may have learned by playing with chen before (not only the pure theory is improtant between players on the circuit who know each other well !) + so far kitai's ROI is better then the best online ROI's playing GTO poker (game theoritical optimum) so people have to admit he has some hand-reading and tells-spoting skills that make some plays "no variance" for him cause he just "knows" what oponents have.. in this hand chens starts to blink 2-3x faster when kitai tanks to hero call, + you see he announces "call" just after looking at chen, I guess he had spotted something else making him even more sure of his read ( The guy knows about ICM and the value of any lost chips so beleive me it's not a spewy lucky call ) ;)
That is an amazing call! There are so many hands that can beat him. He must be getting some read off this guy from previous plays and is sensing not only weakness, but weakness where he mustn't even have an Ace high with a kicker better than a Q or K (any other kicker would hit a pair, straight or be lower than the board). Far OUT. Lost for words on this play.
I don't know if it is a winning play, but I think that it's a pretty good spot to hero. Chen is really only representing an 8 on the river, but the problem with that is that he would not really check any 8's on the turn other than 78 and 98. All other 8's should betting the turn as that would be the standard play after picking up a gut shot on the turn after c-betting the flop. Getting such a good price, i think Chen has enough hands that Kitai beats, when he takes a line that doesn't really make any sense. The only problem is he could bluff with quite a big number of better hands like better A-high, a 5 or a 7.
That is an amazing call, Chen could easily be bluffing with a 7 or a 9 in his hand, so to just call knowing he hasn't even hit is sick. Only thing that might make it easier is that if Kitai loses, he'd still have like 8 1/2 million chips versus 13 million, so its not like a make or break decision, but sick nonetheless.
Raising simply doesn't make sense on this board unless he has the nut straight. This is what was going through Kitai's mind while he was considering the call. He was just trying to figure out if it was possible Chen had the nuts or not before settling on calling. Not saying I could do the same thing but I have called with Ace high on a similar board against a high action player in a cash game before. He was in shock for a half hour after I called him down.
I'd sat that it is a +ev play and that it just simply doesn't crop up very often as spots like this aren't very good bluffing spots; hence not many people chosing to take the line that Chen did.
Chen is a good enough player to raise bluff the river and assuming his range is polarized to the nuts or air then as long as he bluffs in this spot more than 22% of the time Kitai has to call.
well it went to the river and it Changed everything! love how people go Oh ya easy call given away on Turn when none of you would ever make that call for that money. let alone be there....
this is so sick it's not even a hero call. how the river played out is just unbelievable. it's not even a 3 barrel bluff and call. just so sick. this is like the call of the year.
Exactly! Very unlikely that Chen would check any 8 on the turn in position. I'd like to think that I'd be able to see that as well if I were Kitai but even if I did I'd never have the balls to make the same call. KQ is a possibility. Also I think Chen could have played a hand like 54 or A5 pretty much the same way, trying to bluff the river thinking that Kitai is value betting a bigger pair or two pairs.
He doesnt have to show, but if he mucks that gives his opponent the chance to muck and im guessing he wanted to see what he was being called with. Yes he did have to act first, but he still had the option to muck, and if he does muck his opponent wins and can also muck his hand
Funny how everyone knows what gave it away when they know their cards. My experience has been just the opposite. I.e. more often than not, people tend to deliberate longer when deciding on a value bet. Supposed "tells" don't exist by themselves. Good players read well using all information. It's almost never one specific tell that "gives it away."
A 3bet on the river wouldn't be stupid. Chen could be turning a 5 into a bluff, or a better ace high, or an underpair. It's not like he has to be behind A3 to be bluffing here
chan easyly could have AK, AQ, A6-A2, 22-44 and if not bluffing KQ or Q8....with 1/4 odds this is a very thin call that sometimes gets him a split pot if you you ask me
this has to be the sickest live read that has ever been seen on youtube , the call is virtually impossible yet he makes it , this is super high level poker right here !!
Would have been sick if Chen turned a 7 or a 5 into a bluff, and after Kitai`s call realizes he has the best hand. ;)
i love davidi kitai, fucking great play
This is why he is one of the few players that a triple crown behind there names..
Proud to be Belgian!
5:47 ,,, he's betting to induce :D
that line always makes my day when i watch this
one of the best calls ive ever seen and ive watched a lot of poker
maybe try play? this is stnd call. i call hand like this every week
Those chips are just fucking beautiful
outstanding, thanks for the upload bro
Simplismente brilhante! Jogada extremamente técnica e só tenho que tirar o chapéu para o Davidi.
Essa sacada de sair de lead no river e o re-raise, que polarizou a mão do adversário foi top!
Jogadores medianos dariam check/fold nesse river (o check deixaria o range de mãos do adversário mais abrangente e o blefe teria um peso muito maior), esse bet, essa volta, colocou o cara de fato em blefe ou na sequência, elimimando pares, dois pares e outras combinações que obviamente só dariam call ou fold.
uma verdadeira aula de poker.
What makes this even more impressive is that it's againat an asian guy.
I played low-stakes poker for several years. I was a winning player but nowhere near pro level.
I was not well-versed on GTO strategy, so was forced to rely on live reads more often than I should have.
Asians were always the hardest to read. By far.
Genius read and genius call
just amazing how skillful players we have on youtube , none of you made such call on even 11$ buy in tournament , in my opinion kitai is one of the greatest tournament player
gotta love the microstakes "pros" giving their two cents worth lmfao
I know right.
Kitai is so sick. Super high level. But it's possible only in live poker and yes, it's -EV
Wow what an amazing call!
I like this one more than the Mercier vs Koskas call because Chen didn't look nervous at all...
Great call. He knew what was going on.
literally best call ever
i really think about the mindgame after the overraise to 1,5 million. there is a lot to it : usually a huge raise like this means weakness, obv not for value and wanting the enemy to fold. but they have deeper thoughts to it and its more like : if i raise so huge, it usually looks like a bluff but kitai knows that i will try that to get max value and some sort of a hero call. its up to kitai to make the right decision but in this case he was so damn right.
Magnifique!!!!!!!!!
smart investors adjust to the message of changing markets and this is one of those cases where that is in play. It made a lot of sense. With 3 to 1 to call, its profitable even to be correct one third of the time and this is one of the situations where it can only be very strong or very weak and then you ask the question if this ace is good enough to be holdings of very weak.
There actually was a small tell at 1:27 if you can soulread (approximately 0.1% of the population have the ability to read miniscule emotional changes in facial expressions) but you are right in that Kitai didn't seem to pick it up. By the turn it did take something special to continue calling down Chen's raises, especially to pull the bluff.
Very interesting hand.
This is why I love live poker and kinda hate online.
For the haters below, look up kitai on hendon mob. His live results are incredible. Which means he has incredible reading skills.
very good call
I love how everyone on TH-cam is a pro...
He just won another bracelet at the WSOP. This guy is a tournament beast. Wonder why we don't see him more in the highrollers.
that was a sick call no doubt
genius of new era poker... new Stu Ungar. its Davidi - very interesting player
The guest commentator explains it well. Chen's river raise was so polarising that he (Chen) either had the straight or had a total bluff as if Chen had medium strength hands on that board he would just call with showdown value. His raise showed Kitai that he either had the nuts or had no showdown value therefore Kitai decided that he had more buffs in his range after taking that line than straights.
Polarized hand, he raises your bluff/blocking bet on the river with a straight or with air and he calls you with a pair.
50% he was good with A high and he went for it. Great call.
exactly!! the overbet by Chen is what really made Davidi think Ace high is good here. A very good read, but idk about greatest all time. Looking someone up with Ace high is really not that crazy in heads-up play.
you see a few hero calls in heads up/ i like to play heads up., the mind games get real/
thanks !! could you also upload the hand where he calls with a J high and the hand where he calls with just a pair of five?
Awesome ! VGG
Davidi Kitai tes le meilleur !
I really don't think this call is +ev in the long run. Theres just such a ridiculously thin amount of hand combinations that he actually beats here. His showdown value is just so poor that I don't think he is even ahead of many bluffs here. Although it looks sick and i rate kitai for having the balls to make the call I think that's being overly results based. He's just ahead here such a tiny % of the time.
you guys and you ev arguments...ev does not apply to reads, it is strictly mathematical..
lol live reads
ponder this...where does EV sit with leveling wars? Nowhere. Because the two ideas cannot be compared to each other. This was a leveling war, EV does not exist in this paradigm.
i agree with you in math/logistics terms...BUT....poker is not only about numbers...is also about feel and psychology
This is not internet microstakes poker buddy, those guys are not playing only mathematic.
very impressive!
I think this call makes a lot of sense and its a very powerful call. There is no hand on that board that should raise the river with the exception of KQ, or perhaps an overly aggressive 8. An 8 is likely barreling the turn because he develops double gut shot outs and can get a 7, 5, or 9 to fold.. and there are few combination of developed spade outs. KQ also might barrel the turn again as it also develops outs. Chens likely holdings are, AIR (very high percentage). The only issue with the board is its very tough not to hit this board with at least something. The crux to the whole thing though is no hand other then KQ really wants to play this way.
Yeah, the raise on the river doesn't make much sense. The only hands that can raise for value are Q8 and KQ, and both seem like they would happily barrel turn with equity.
+dochmbi Actually, I think hands like 78,98 all could check back turn with showdown value. Now on the river, either of those hands would also raise. Great call from Kitai tho.
Great call. My 2 cents are that the check on the turn was Chen's blunder because its really hard for him to rep an 8 at the river.
1) Any made straight is betting for value on the turn (probably) ie 10-8 and 6-8, just because it looks like such a steal spot where his range could be potentially wide open. Remember, 3-bet pot and pre-flop 3bettor checked twice.
2) I also believe an agro guy like Chen that he's betting any turned gutshot/opened ender, or 1 pair plus gutshot.
What about 8-6? This is the sickest call I've ever seen simply because of board texture. It's kinda hard to put your opponent on nothing with this board!
John Smith This is not a good call at all... you cannot bet/ call that river, with that hand, and make a profit in the long run. It was still the good decision at this specific moment, and thats why poker is fun!
Mix Pal He said it's the sickest call, not the best.
pierrearr ''sickest call ever'' has to be a''good call'' sir.. thx for the precision anyway.
Mix Pal Just a matter of opinion, you don't decide what a "sick call" means for all other people.
Nice call, I guess Kitai expect that with 8 he will barel turn with str8 draw and that decides.
The long deliberation Chen took was a tell that he didn't have much.
david and goliath! what. a. call. my goodness!
I think he just changed his mind during the river bettings.
He probably thought his A high was beat by a pair so he wanted to bluff / blockng bet the river trying to induce a fold or a cheap showdwon.
Once he got raised he figured his A high could actually be good since the opp range hand was completly polarized (either straight or air).
Great play!
Respect
what a genius
omfg who is that guy? sick call, best i've seen
in his mind he was like wtf am i doing
Chen got caught because he does the same beating habits with weak hands. That was his tell that Kitai noticed.
Chen would only value bet a straight on the river.. an 8 or eventually kq.. otherwise he is bluffing... great read . Kitai knew it, thats why he made a blocking bet (30% pot size) on the river...
Chen May have went for value with a set , the check from Chen on the turn is massive for kitai
block bet when you have aces high?what are you talking about?....and you say ''otherwise he is bluffing''....yeah can bluffing...... but with what hand????..i can tell you over 10 BLUFFING hands that chen could have...and he would still win this pot.....like....pair 2..pair 4..pair 6 A5 A7 AJ AQ AK........so a call here is just bad 99% of the time.......a re-raise is much better...if you have a read on th other player
all this hands u just wrote : pair 2..pair 4..pair 6 A5 A7 AJ AQ AK. are not bluffs, they have value. and how can he re-raise the river with those kind of hands? it has no sense. kitai's process thinking was perfect, he is a millionaire thx to this game, me and u are not. so we should give him credit for this great call, i mean he KNEW what to do, it wasnt a random call
so if a hand has value....it cant be a bluff?.....thats just stupid...stop making commends on poker videos
kariba25 Just think Hassad means that with the other hands (2,4, 5, 7...) chen has (or is likely) to call the 30% blocking bet, he only 3bets for value with an 8 or if he has no showdwn value at all, so Kitai's smart enough to know chen's either pure bluffing ore pure valuing, and this is something kitais may have learned by playing with chen before (not only the pure theory is improtant between players on the circuit who know each other well !)
+ so far kitai's ROI is better then the best online ROI's playing GTO poker (game theoritical optimum) so people have to admit he has some hand-reading and tells-spoting skills that make some plays "no variance" for him cause he just "knows" what oponents have.. in this hand chens starts to blink 2-3x faster when kitai tanks to hero call, + you see he announces "call" just after looking at chen, I guess he had spotted something else making him even more sure of his read ( The guy knows about ICM and the value of any lost chips so beleive me it's not a spewy lucky call )
;)
That is an amazing call!
There are so many hands that can beat him. He must be getting some read off this guy from previous plays and is sensing not only weakness, but weakness where he mustn't even have an Ace high with a kicker better than a Q or K (any other kicker would hit a pair, straight or be lower than the board). Far OUT. Lost for words on this play.
sick
He' s crazy, call with high card!
i love how chen it takes chen so long to bluff his stack away
tough to make this the best hero call considering the doyle brunson call before I was born when he called with like jack high.
okay, yeah, that's pretty impressive. the info that made a lot of sense to me was "either he has an 8 or the Ace could be good".
I don't know if it is a winning play, but I think that it's a pretty good spot to hero.
Chen is really only representing an 8 on the river, but the problem with that is that he would not really check any 8's on the turn other than 78 and 98. All other 8's should betting the turn as that would be the standard play after picking up a gut shot on the turn after c-betting the flop.
Getting such a good price, i think Chen has enough hands that Kitai beats, when he takes a line that doesn't really make any sense. The only problem is he could bluff with quite a big number of better hands like better A-high, a 5 or a 7.
That is an amazing call, Chen could easily be bluffing with a 7 or a 9 in his hand, so to just call knowing he hasn't even hit is sick.
Only thing that might make it easier is that if Kitai loses, he'd still have like 8 1/2 million chips versus 13 million, so its not like a make or break decision, but sick nonetheless.
Raising simply doesn't make sense on this board unless he has the nut straight. This is what was going through Kitai's mind while he was considering the call. He was just trying to figure out if it was possible Chen had the nuts or not before settling on calling. Not saying I could do the same thing but I have called with Ace high on a similar board against a high action player in a cash game before. He was in shock for a half hour after I called him down.
yea, andrew chen is a sick player too.
a fantastic read. Sickland sickness of the sickest kind.
He didn't think his Ace high was good when he bet the river; he simply re-evaluated after Chen made his polarising river-raise.
OHH GAWD
this guys won the triple crown and theres the youtube pros saying hes awful. c'mon people
If this ever happened to me in a live game id think id shit out my soul
I'd sat that it is a +ev play and that it just simply doesn't crop up very often as spots like this aren't very good bluffing spots; hence not many people chosing to take the line that Chen did.
Chen is a good enough player to raise bluff the river and assuming his range is polarized to the nuts or air then as long as he bluffs in this spot more than 22% of the time Kitai has to call.
If you understand hand ranges, this was a trivial call. Only mystery is why he took so long.
well it went to the river and it Changed everything! love how people go Oh ya easy call given away on Turn when none of you would ever make that call for that money. let alone be there....
Your point? This is a super Great call. Chen either raises with 8 or with air.
genius!
this is so sick it's not even a hero call. how the river played out is just unbelievable.
it's not even a 3 barrel bluff and call. just so sick. this is like the call of the year.
Exactly! Very unlikely that Chen would check any 8 on the turn in position. I'd like to think that I'd be able to see that as well if I were Kitai but even if I did I'd never have the balls to make the same call. KQ is a possibility. Also I think Chen could have played a hand like 54 or A5 pretty much the same way, trying to bluff the river thinking that Kitai is value betting a bigger pair or two pairs.
true
who were the two pros commeting with the usual guy?
there is a gray area between the fish and the hero call...which i think is unexplorable! ;)
remind me to take a long time everytime i play you when i have a hand
commentator nailed it at 5:10... Ive never seen a hand played so weird.. bluffing the river, then hero calling? very funny line..
that guy andrew chen blinks too much
p-p-p-p-poker face
Terence Pang poke-her face
i think thats what gave him away
nichol manio you truly are a clown if you think you can use that as a tell lol
wow
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Juanda.....
When you call a raise with nothing looking to make a move on a later street
who is doing the commentary. I like the color man.
He doesnt have to show, but if he mucks that gives his opponent the chance to muck and im guessing he wanted to see what he was being called with.
Yes he did have to act first, but he still had the option to muck, and if he does muck his opponent wins and can also muck his hand
You know how people will do stupid stuff and someone will say "That's just not poker?"
Well THAT WAS POKER.
That was no donkey call, he read his soul like a book and didnt like the ending!
There's a very fine line between a super Donkey ass call and a super Great call
Funny how everyone knows what gave it away when they know their cards. My experience has been just the opposite. I.e. more often than not, people tend to deliberate longer when deciding on a value bet. Supposed "tells" don't exist by themselves. Good players read well using all information. It's almost never one specific tell that "gives it away."
do you play on pokerstars?
A 3bet on the river wouldn't be stupid. Chen could be turning a 5 into a bluff, or a better ace high, or an underpair. It's not like he has to be behind A3 to be bluffing here
Its a nice investment for Chen. By bluffing big, he can also valuebet big, and get payed.
Chen took too much time he gave it away, as soon as kitai raise he immediately should have said all in then that probably work
roggy12345 valid point
a hero call is when you call a bet with a hand which is very weak and can most often only beat a cold bluff.
bad check on the turn by Chen, never stop barrelling !
never seen either of these two before... but what's with Chen's blinking once per second??
chan easyly could have AK, AQ, A6-A2, 22-44 and if not bluffing KQ or Q8....with 1/4 odds this is a very thin call that sometimes gets him a split pot if you you ask me
So many geniuses here lmfao. That was a fucking sick call.
Lol @ all these freerolling brofessionals giving their expert opinion.