"how do I draw tables with people like this? 72 million idiots out there and I gotta draw guys who lay down Jack's full and he's right" has he rolling 😂😂😂
I believe they are working together. The comment was a signal bro, this is collusion at it's finest! To finish it off I knew i was beat. Yeah like you saw his holdings. Dead giveaway!!
@@MCFoultier Depends how many hands he's seen played at the table. Pros like Daniel can easily pick apart someone's game. Daniel is just more vocal with guessing hand ranges.
@@zdorovyjhluzd - Right, especially if he had been playing tight until that point. Plus, raising Negreanu under any circumstance has to be a sign of strength.
That wasn't nitty at all. You're a nit for thinking it's nitty. He obviously had a read, and the other guy made it easy for him for emphatically refusing to show if he folded. So you know he wants action and he raised big. He has to either have A-high straight or one of the other two possible full boats that beat yours. With that board, in which the broadway would be the most obvious made hand, do you think someone would be reluctant to show the hand that anyone in that position could be assumed to have? He had to have Aces or Kings full in that situation. No one would be bluffing with that board
Hahaha. Was it actually proven he cheated? U can see him looking at his phone but how does that show him the other players card? Do thse shows play on tv live?
My favorite thing about being a poker dealer is getting to be there for some of these moments. I remember dealing to Jason Mercier and another pro. They took $50,000 off of a high stakes amateur in 30 min playing Open Faced Chinese poker for $800 a point and the guy had no idea he was out of his league.
I could never fold jacks full there, that was an unbelievable lay down Also Negreanus reads are disgusting. Could you Imagine how scary it would be having someone tell you what your cards are then proceed to put chips in the middle
andrew wohlfart I would use that against Daniel. He’s too trustworthy. And the guy folded jacks due to table talk and the winner agreeing to show his hand
"Just please don't raise me" maybe might be out of the line and gave some sort of indication, but still that remains the most impressive laydown I've ever seen. EVER. Kudos to Romanello
I think it's simply because these players would never angle shoot, and everyone knows it so he gets away with it. It was an honest hesitation without angle shoot intents
@@danielhenderson762 Oh come on, he makes blatant forward motion then after he draws his hand back, he looks directly into Black's eyes to gauge his reaction. It was practically a demonstration of what an angle shoot is.
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So heres the real lesson from the hand where romanello folds jacks full: standardize your open sizing. Blinds were 50-100 and opponent opened 6x for 600. Romanello likely read that raise as probably AA or KK and decided to set mine with JJ. To his dismay the board comes AKJ. Both AA and KK made sets and theres a st draw out there. When he is raised on the river he reverts back to his original read of AA or KK. What other hands would someone cold open for 6x with. If the guy holding KK raises the standard 3x (for that era) he might get 3 bet by jacks pre, and jacks will bet to protect or call a couple streets postflop. If he made a standard open he has a standard range, which is wider. The 6x open narrowed his range to top 5 hands or crazy guy raising random crap.
Daniel called the hand where the guy had 44, but there’s a lot of hands that beat 99 in that situation. Don’t think that was that difficult of a lay down
Dwan was allowed to make that forward motion with his chips as if he was going to play, then pull his hand back and look at Black to study his reaction. Those chips should've been committed to the pot 3:08
Folding Jacks Full is something that I'll never be able to do...and that's why he's there and I'm sitting on the couch covered in doritos and watching Cops on my Hi-Sense TV.
Gellar's line was weird and crazy polarizing. Then add in the speech and the changed positioning with the crossed arms, and Romanello was able to make a massive live read play. Worst case scenario, he over folds, loses about 1.8k of his stack, and looks like a huge nit. Best case scenario, he's a legend for this fold for all the public to see. Well played, Romanello. Well played.
I once folded queens full of kings. My hand QQ, flop QKK. The way one of my opponents was betting convinced me he had QK in his hand. Turns out I was right. The only reason I noticed was because I was hyper aware at the time,. I had lost with every pat hand I had the day before that game. It didn't matter what I had; full house, flush, straight, trips or whatever. Worst poker night of my life.
This just a my opinion but if you feel that you are beaten, fold always, no matter what hand you have and if you feel that you garbage hand is good, call
Dwan folding trips was a great read. Its hard to fold a set after the flop, pre turn card. Jacks full fold was an amazing read. He must of had a gut feeling or something. Crazy stuff
He grabbed the chips for a call and moved as though he was going to put them in. He then immediately looked at the opponent to see if they reacted. It's a textbook angle shot and many if not most casinos would have forced him to call for it.
The fact that Daniel Negreanu is in two of the top five reads on television assert my position that he is one of (if not the BEST) live poker player of all time
If he is nt the best he surely got the best personality. Humbold he never talks about being the best and he enjoy playing. If he looses he don't get all loud like he'll muth...
I'm honestly more impressed with players who can lay down monster hands than I am with some of the best pros currently playing. You just have so many factors working against you when it's time to decide to call or fold. You probably have all your instincts screaming at you to call his bluff and stay in the hand, have to show humility and accept the fact any of the other players could have gotten even luckier than you, you're probably already a few thousand into the pot which you know you're not getting back if you fold, and don't want to be humiliated on live television for folding the winning hand against a bluff. That Jacks Full laydown may have been the best I've ever seen...
I've noticed it too but he typically does it when he's staring off into Durrland and doesn't watch the other player for a reaction so it makes it a bit more acceptable IMO. Still a bit shady though
@@brandonkrause7308 But if you were durrr wouldn't you pretend to be looking into durrrland when you were really looking for tells? 'Specially if you're a world class player with a bunch of secret strats mortals can't fathom, surely "oddly good peripheral vision" isn't out of the question.
@@brandonkrause7308 I guess what I'm saying is, if durrr pulled that shit on me I wouldn't take my chances of what he could or couldn't see, no way no how.
Can you explain, I'm starting to get into poker but I'm trying to learn before I hop into it, what is angle shooting and how did he do it on the first clip
Angle shooting is where you grab your chips and make forward motion with them as if you're trying to bet but pull them back. It's used to get a reaction out of other players and usually frowned upon
@@hjoknvgvnn6116 Angle Shooting is not just that, its doing something against etiquette to get a reaction out of your opponent (not just forward motion)
I think a lot more people would have folded the Jacks-full in this particular instance than people think. Mainly because of how Geller was acting. From trying to hurry Romanello along, to the anxious arm fold, Geller was providing several obvious tells that his hand was big.
That JJ fold was incredible. The Negreanu 4s or 6s read was a hell of pickup but the guy gave away that he was super strong (What is it 10000 oh man come on, okay I call).
First one is an angle shoot. Dwan motioned his chips forward looking at black's reaction. Also, I can't believe it's the "best read ever". Black reraised a reraise. He basically broadcast that he's got a 10 with that. And since dwan had a small kicker that didn't pair, he knew at that point he can only beat a bluff. it wasn't that great of a fold or read.
I still don't understand why that angle shoot by Dwan was allowed, or how come the other players and commentators didn't even mention it, it was pretty blatant.
Some players have bad luck hands. I’ve folded a monster hand in certain spots. It’s a gut feeling you get from a past Deja-vu hand that played out exactly the same way. Personally, I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve been annihilated catching a full-house. Never fails, they turn over a the better boat or on few horrible occasions turned over Quads and made me absolutely sick for a week straight. It’s my bad luck hand, I’ve take too many bad beats with it. I still play it of course, but depending on the dynamics of the hand, I’m not afraid to fold it either.
Daniel isn’t reading cards, he’s guessing and he’s right . Anyone can say you have pocket 4’s or pocket 6’s, he just knows how to say it and play it. He has the gift of gab, he talks and wants to see if he can get info from the other player.
I think saying that he's guessing it's technically accurate but also kind of misleading. I've made exact hand reads like this at poker. When you know how people tend to play and how often they raise versus call, you can develop a sense for these things.
now I don't believe the last one is a great read, I mean Daniel he was so emotional about that reading, he just made 2+2 thinking how the preflop 3bet could represent some premium hands, but it must be really weird to play AA with oppo being that way convinced you had them! So sick!!
3:11 That move right there from Tom. And then the look and ESPECIALLY the look he gave at 3:21, amateurs, take THOROUGH notes, because that's what a pro looks like, who picked up a serious read on a player. I'm not quite sure, HOW Tom did it, but he did. He was right about to call, when something interrupted him from doing so and that couldn't have been something going solely on in his mind.....
Take notes of what an illegal poker play looks like. That was clear forward motion with his chips by Dwan and those chips should've been committed to the pot.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 No, but it was close, I agree. It's just that he did not look at his opponent AT ALL during that movement, hence it was not angle shoot but genuine decision-making. I agree though, it should not happen to a top pro. But he really is not known for angle-shooting and this is pretty much the only hand I know of him doing suspicious movements, so I would really refrain from calling him an illegal player... mistakes happen.
That jacks full is probably the second greatest fold of all time. Doyle folding Kings to Chip Reece’s aces on a rainbow flop is still the best fold in poker history
The funny thing is, the JJ fold wasn’t really a good fold. There’s plenty of other full houses the opponent can have that you beat in that spot: -2 Combos of J10 -6 Combos of A10 -6 Combos of K10 You also beat hands like Q10 that have the straight but have the 10 as a FH blocker. Q10 could easily raise there. You’re only losing to: -3 Combos of KK -3 Combos of AA -1 Combo of 1010 ________ So, there’s 14 combos of FH’s that you beat, as well as Q10 and every other hand like AQ, KQ, QJ, that all have FH blockers with the straight that could easily raise on the river. Even QQ is a possibility to have and to raise the river with. So if you factor in all of those hands as well, that’s I believe 45 combos of hands that the opponent can reasonably have and raise the river. Meanwhile there’s only 7 combos of hands you’re losing to. I think this is always a call. The debate is whether you should raise or not. Because all those other FH’s you beat CAN call a 3 bet on the river. But safest play is to at least call. Anyway, I wouldn’t necessarily call it a “bad” fold, I just wouldn’t call it a “good” fold either.
Negreanu: See everything under the table and just laugh.. Hellmuth: I am the best reader in poker, and i know how to play every cards thay i got (after the hand)
There’s a million hero calls out there cuz people bluff a lot so hero folds are way more intriguing especially when you have second nuts or a really strong hand like nut flush against a boat or boat over boat or quads to boat and or straight flush
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20/20 and all that, but Geller did all the classic rookie tells: "please don't raise me." then buries his head down trying to feign weakness. i would think a lot of poker pros would have seen through it.
15 years later and it’s still both funny and mindboggling that people do not realise Negreanu did this ALL the time, such that you every now and then get it right and look like a genius on TV. Worked like a charm and apparently still does, given the praise here.
“Im not even sure McClean has aces, and we can see his cards” 😂😂😂 best line ever
Its terribly underrated
I dont get it
@@lot.bajrami Then you have some real problems, pal
@@CoDINmyHEART yeah, he’s lost.
i get it but its not that underrated
"how do I draw tables with people like this? 72 million idiots out there and I gotta draw guys who lay down Jack's full and he's right" has he rolling 😂😂😂
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I gotta "drop" guys, not "draw"
lol no kidding. And the 72 million idiots are all on TH-cam commenting on a world class laydown and giving Romanello advice on how to play poker.
@@mkakajoel5281draw, meaning get drawn to the same table by the tournament.
@@mkakajoel5281He says "draw".
that jacks full fold, 99.99% of players could not fold that
I believe they are working together. The comment was a signal bro, this is collusion at it's finest! To finish it off I knew i was beat. Yeah like you saw his holdings. Dead giveaway!!
I'm re-raising all happy and then hating life lol
Woopet, I need to know whether Norman likes working at that monastery!!
nikitha bakshi if i played that hand 10 times i would go broke everytime😂
Geller gave up alot of info.
Negreanu shouldnt be allow to play poker with muggles
@@God-s---Dawg Unskilled victims rarely have enough money to make anyone rich. Negreanu beats the best and THAT's how you become rich lol!
@@God-s---Dawg Unskilled poker players will call Phil Hellmuth with pocket aces and beat him. "Honey, they called me with pocket aces!"
@@TadRaunch 😭😭😭
Lol thats an easy fold by negranu. He could be beaten by pocket 2s , 4s, 6s or 57 hand.
Juan José Hernando 🤣 👏🏼
"MAKE IT FIFTEENTHOUSAND WITH POCKET SIXES OR POCKET FOURS" god, he's so funny and so good
One of my favorite players in any game ever.
Daniel not sure he said pockets 6 or pocket 4 hahaha
If i was antill I’d be shitting my pants
i cant even begin to see how Daniel got that AA read from just one bet.
well, he didn´t know it at all or he would have folded. The guy talks all the time and if he´s right it gets televised.
@@MCFoultier Depends how many hands he's seen played at the table. Pros like Daniel can easily pick apart someone's game. Daniel is just more vocal with guessing hand ranges.
guy had raised him preflop OOP some people only do this with overpairs (me included)
@@zdorovyjhluzd - Right, especially if he had been playing tight until that point. Plus, raising Negreanu under any circumstance has to be a sign of strength.
@@truthsmiles Not to mention a casual toss of the chips might have been a signal as well.
Romanellos jacks full lay down will just forever be my favorite
That was kinda nitty. This is much harder th-cam.com/video/t23gMcfh5Ik/w-d-xo.html
@@laartwork That's Jackson and Ivey bluffing, there's no "good fold" in that hand. Romanello's fold here is world class.
That wasn't nitty at all. You're a nit for thinking it's nitty. He obviously had a read, and the other guy made it easy for him for emphatically refusing to show if he folded. So you know he wants action and he raised big. He has to either have A-high straight or one of the other two possible full boats that beat yours. With that board, in which the broadway would be the most obvious made hand, do you think someone would be reluctant to show the hand that anyone in that position could be assumed to have? He had to have Aces or Kings full in that situation. No one would be bluffing with that board
I love how the Mr Peanut graphic lands right on his head too😆
Announcer: Daniel is the only player who has access to the other player’s hand.
(Mike Postle has entered the chat)
Underrated comment :P
Poster looks deep into the crotch and gets a great read every time.
Hahaha. Was it actually proven he cheated? U can see him looking at his phone but how does that show him the other players card? Do thse shows play on tv live?
Only player at THAT table with access
The aces call by Daniel is my all time #1 favorite read.
Mine too. That shit is nuts
LBJ20XX I THINK HE HAS TWOOO ACES
It's one of my favourites too... but I like this one a little more.
th-cam.com/video/Pojna-bOlPM/w-d-xo.html
Pocket 6s or pocket 4s?
I like the one where he has deuces against 2 all-ins with an ace each, but I can’t find it anymore. Think it was wsop and a woman was in the hand.
“Top 5 poker reads ever”
1st one
Commentator “this is so obvious that he has a 10 here, he has to know to fold”
This is best by both players th-cam.com/video/t23gMcfh5Ik/w-d-xo.html
It was pretty obvious, you probably don't even play poker lmao.
It’s not an easy fold, but a solid player will make that fold most of the time. Definitely not too 5 folds ever though ...
My favorite thing about being a poker dealer is getting to be there for some of these moments. I remember dealing to Jason Mercier and another pro. They took $50,000 off of a high stakes amateur in 30 min playing Open Faced Chinese poker for $800 a point and the guy had no idea he was out of his league.
I could never fold jacks full there, that was an unbelievable lay down
Also Negreanus reads are disgusting. Could you Imagine how scary it would be having someone tell you what your cards are then proceed to put chips in the middle
andrew wohlfart I would use that against Daniel. He’s too trustworthy. And the guy folded jacks due to table talk and the winner agreeing to show his hand
Daniel is one of the best players ever but how many times does he call it and it’s wrong but we never see it? My guess it a lot of times.
Patrick Antonius knows lol 😆 😂
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I like it +respect
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"Just please don't raise me" maybe might be out of the line and gave some sort of indication, but still that remains the most impressive laydown I've ever seen. EVER. Kudos to Romanello
12:17 the way he looks at Daniel is hilarious lmao
3:05 Bit of an angleshot there innit?
huge angle shoot and a few seconds later too. He made forward motion, I would have demanded put the chips in
I'm surprised the commentators didn't call it out.
100%. Looks for his opponents reaction immediately after. Shameful play
I would've called the floor. Especially since Dwan only had 73k left. 25k near dead chips would be s lot there.
How is that not an angle shoot by Dwan. Made forward motion with chips for sure.
It definitely was.
He should be forced to call, then immediately muck his hand if he is behind.
I think it's simply because these players would never angle shoot, and everyone knows it so he gets away with it. It was an honest hesitation without angle shoot intents
@@danielhenderson762 Oh come on, he makes blatant forward motion then after he draws his hand back, he looks directly into Black's eyes to gauge his reaction. It was practically a demonstration of what an angle shoot is.
Textbook angle shot
12:14
Daniel: “Why would you check the turn? If you bet the turn I was just gonna fold.”
That’s why, Daniel 🤣🤣
Yep, Daniel wasn't sure either. Why call aces with Q10 on that flop?🤔
3:00 isn't that forward motion twice!!??
exactly my thoughts...
Getting called with Q high is your cue to rack up your chips and leave 😂😂😂
Who got called by Q high?? Dwan folds trip 10s, then QQ vs KJ, AA vs JJ, 99vs 44, Q10 vs AA
You go in hard against anyone playing that lose to call with Q high lmao
Are there even grocery stores near monasteries?
Him and Kaplan are the goats
Jason Andrews lololololololololol 😂
Hahahahahaha, the greatest comment of all time 😂😂
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@@Anlonn what about ppl that watch from their phones on the shitter? Didnt think if that one did u?
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Dwan's foward motion in the 1st clip should have been ruled a call.
Agreed
Amen
Chips never left his hand, he never says call, I don’t see how you grant that as a call.
So heres the real lesson from the hand where romanello folds jacks full: standardize your open sizing. Blinds were 50-100 and opponent opened 6x for 600. Romanello likely read that raise as probably AA or KK and decided to set mine with JJ. To his dismay the board comes AKJ. Both AA and KK made sets and theres a st draw out there. When he is raised on the river he reverts back to his original read of AA or KK. What other hands would someone cold open for 6x with.
If the guy holding KK raises the standard 3x (for that era) he might get 3 bet by jacks pre, and jacks will bet to protect or call a couple streets postflop.
If he made a standard open he has a standard range, which is wider. The 6x open narrowed his range to top 5 hands or crazy guy raising random crap.
GOATed breakdown
Daniel called the hand where the guy had 44, but there’s a lot of hands that beat 99 in that situation.
Don’t think that was that difficult of a lay down
Mike was spitting truth. That lay down was insane!!!
Dwan was allowed to make that forward motion with his chips as if he was going to play, then pull his hand back and look at Black to study his reaction. Those chips should've been committed to the pot 3:08
OMG! those aces! You can't feel safe playing poker against Daniel. It's like playing against NSA.
Folding Jacks Full is something that I'll never be able to do...and that's why he's there and I'm sitting on the couch covered in doritos and watching Cops on my Hi-Sense TV.
But after Romanello folded, what was the first thing he said?
_"Where's my Doritos?"_
Where's Obst full house fold to Ruanes straight flush? He even said Ruanes hand. Not enough credit for that hand, WSOP 2016 deep in the main event.
Gellar's line was weird and crazy polarizing.
Then add in the speech and the changed positioning with the crossed arms, and Romanello was able to make a massive live read play. Worst case scenario, he over folds, loses about 1.8k of his stack, and looks like a huge nit. Best case scenario, he's a legend for this fold for all the public to see.
Well played, Romanello. Well played.
I play with geller in tournaments in Colorado. He is a well known maniac
It's never just quiet, there's always someone playing with their chips while they wait or think
I shuffle my chips while I study
Geller gave it away with his talking. He should have kept quiet and Romanello would have called.
Players last names on the screen, commentators call them by their first names. wtf
"Are there even any grocery stores near Monasteries" 😂
This pocket Jacks. My god. I would be very proud of myself, if I only called that.
Roberto Romanello once again showing why he is one of the best players on the tour!
Well done, Rob. 🏴🏴
not sure what I enjoy more laying down a losing full house or hero calling with Q high
Awesome fold by Dwan. Always enjoy watching him play.
If there were a table full of world class pros, Dwan would be who I'd bet my money on winning.
That Dwan fold was next level.
I once folded queens full of kings. My hand QQ, flop QKK. The way one of my opponents was betting convinced me he had QK in his hand. Turns out I was right. The only reason I noticed was because I was hyper aware at the time,. I had lost with every pat hand I had the day before that game. It didn't matter what I had; full house, flush, straight, trips or whatever. Worst poker night of my life.
So you were on Poker Stars then
This just a my opinion but if you feel that you are beaten, fold always, no matter what hand you have and if you feel that you garbage hand is good, call
Dwan folding trips was a great read. Its hard to fold a set after the flop, pre turn card. Jacks full fold was an amazing read. He must of had a gut feeling or something. Crazy stuff
Bit of an angle shot
Easy fold
He grabbed the chips for a call and moved as though he was going to put them in. He then immediately looked at the opponent to see if they reacted. It's a textbook angle shot and many if not most casinos would have forced him to call for it.
The fact that Daniel Negreanu is in two of the top five reads on television assert my position that he is one of (if not the BEST) live poker player of all time
If he is nt the best he surely got the best personality.
Humbold he never talks about being the best and he enjoy playing.
If he looses he don't get all loud like he'll muth...
Ivey, he just doesn’t say what he thinks the way Daniel does.
Awesome, another DN video. Sweet!
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Nice
Nice :D
I'm honestly more impressed with players who can lay down monster hands than I am with some of the best pros currently playing. You just have so many factors working against you when it's time to decide to call or fold. You probably have all your instincts screaming at you to call his bluff and stay in the hand, have to show humility and accept the fact any of the other players could have gotten even luckier than you, you're probably already a few thousand into the pot which you know you're not getting back if you fold, and don't want to be humiliated on live television for folding the winning hand against a bluff. That Jacks Full laydown may have been the best I've ever seen...
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Daniel Negreanu is the only player at the table that has access to the other players hole cards. Classic line
I’ve seen Tom Dwan do that border line angle shoot/forward motion a lot of times, surprised nobody has ever said anything?
I've noticed it too but he typically does it when he's staring off into Durrland and doesn't watch the other player for a reaction so it makes it a bit more acceptable IMO. Still a bit shady though
@@brandonkrause7308 But if you were durrr wouldn't you pretend to be looking into durrrland when you were really looking for tells? 'Specially if you're a world class player with a bunch of secret strats mortals can't fathom, surely "oddly good peripheral vision" isn't out of the question.
@@brandonkrause7308 I guess what I'm saying is, if durrr pulled that shit on me I wouldn't take my chances of what he could or couldn't see, no way no how.
@@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin Yeah I agree it's still really bad form, especially for someone like him who should know better
@@brandonkrause7308 I still can't figure out why nobody even commented on it, the other players, the commentators
He folded 10 3. Let’s relax here for a second. 😂
BUT IT WAS WORLD CLASS
I love Dwan, but he angle shot that first clip. Just saying.
Can you explain, I'm starting to get into poker but I'm trying to learn before I hop into it, what is angle shooting and how did he do it on the first clip
Angle shooting is where you grab your chips and make forward motion with them as if you're trying to bet but pull them back. It's used to get a reaction out of other players and usually frowned upon
He does it at 3:07
@@hjoknvgvnn6116 Angle Shooting is not just that, its doing something against etiquette to get a reaction out of your opponent (not just forward motion)
I wouldn't say he angle shot, but it was pretty sus. Then again, it's Dwan, so can I really talk? He wouldn't need to angle shoot most people
I think a lot more people would have folded the Jacks-full in this particular instance than people think. Mainly because of how Geller was acting. From trying to hurry Romanello along, to the anxious arm fold, Geller was providing several obvious tells that his hand was big.
Dwan didn’t change his mind he was checking for tells if he was to call. Bit cheeky.
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That JJ fold was incredible. The Negreanu 4s or 6s read was a hell of pickup but the guy gave away that he was super strong (What is it 10000 oh man come on, okay I call).
First one is an angle shoot. Dwan motioned his chips forward looking at black's reaction. Also, I can't believe it's the "best read ever". Black reraised a reraise. He basically broadcast that he's got a 10 with that. And since dwan had a small kicker that didn't pair, he knew at that point he can only beat a bluff. it wasn't that great of a fold or read.
I still don't understand why that angle shoot by Dwan was allowed, or how come the other players and commentators didn't even mention it, it was pretty blatant.
Comentators: she has to fold her Q, its pretty obvious he gas a T
Also comentators: oh my god, what an amazing fold, he folded T3...
The Jacks full is the best fold ever
Jacks full fold was so good the peanut man popped out of his head
Some players have bad luck hands. I’ve folded a monster hand in certain spots. It’s a gut feeling you get from a past Deja-vu hand that played out exactly the same way. Personally, I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve been annihilated catching a full-house. Never fails, they turn over a the better boat or on few horrible occasions turned over Quads and made me absolutely sick for a week straight. It’s my bad luck hand, I’ve take too many bad beats with it. I still play it of course, but depending on the dynamics of the hand, I’m not afraid to fold it either.
dude: chickens out with full house
caster: wow thats world class
Are you slow?
Daniel isn’t reading cards, he’s guessing and he’s right . Anyone can say you have pocket 4’s or pocket 6’s, he just knows how to say it and play it. He has the gift of gab, he talks and wants to see if he can get info from the other player.
Thank you for that captain obvious 😆
I think saying that he's guessing it's technically accurate but also kind of misleading. I've made exact hand reads like this at poker. When you know how people tend to play and how often they raise versus call, you can develop a sense for these things.
There's definitely ranges of hands where the hand you "guess" is the only one that makes sense for that line.
"Your eyes blinked, sir. You have a set."
now I don't believe the last one is a great read, I mean Daniel he was so emotional about that reading, he just made 2+2 thinking how the preflop 3bet could represent some premium hands, but it must be really weird to play AA with oppo being that way convinced you had them! So sick!!
Romanello fold is something else.
was durrr not angle shooting there?
Yes
3:11 That move right there from Tom. And then the look and ESPECIALLY the look he gave at 3:21, amateurs, take THOROUGH notes, because that's what a pro looks like, who picked up a serious read on a player. I'm not quite sure, HOW Tom did it, but he did. He was right about to call, when something interrupted him from doing so and that couldn't have been something going solely on in his mind.....
Take notes of what an illegal poker play looks like. That was clear forward motion with his chips by Dwan and those chips should've been committed to the pot.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 No, but it was close, I agree. It's just that he did not look at his opponent AT ALL during that movement, hence it was not angle shoot but genuine decision-making. I agree though, it should not happen to a top pro. But he really is not known for angle-shooting and this is pretty much the only hand I know of him doing suspicious movements, so I would really refrain from calling him an illegal player... mistakes happen.
dude: has a bluff catcher
dude: folds
caster: wow wtf thats world class
3:32 Folding there was one helluva play
Are there even grocery stores near monasteries?? Line of the tournament from the announcers
That jacks full is probably the second greatest fold of all time. Doyle folding Kings to Chip Reece’s aces on a rainbow flop is still the best fold in poker history
Hank Azaria (actor from the Simpsons) laid down kings pre flop one year at the WSOP, that was impressive IMO.
Of course the other guy held AA.
The funny thing is, the JJ fold wasn’t really a good fold. There’s plenty of other full houses the opponent can have that you beat in that spot:
-2 Combos of J10
-6 Combos of A10
-6 Combos of K10
You also beat hands like Q10 that have the straight but have the 10 as a FH blocker. Q10 could easily raise there.
You’re only losing to:
-3 Combos of KK
-3 Combos of AA
-1 Combo of 1010
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So, there’s 14 combos of FH’s that you beat, as well as Q10 and every other hand like AQ, KQ, QJ, that all have FH blockers with the straight that could easily raise on the river. Even QQ is a possibility to have and to raise the river with. So if you factor in all of those hands as well, that’s I believe 45 combos of hands that the opponent can reasonably have and raise the river.
Meanwhile there’s only 7 combos of hands you’re losing to.
I think this is always a call. The debate is whether you should raise or not. Because all those other FH’s you beat CAN call a 3 bet on the river. But safest play is to at least call.
Anyway, I wouldn’t necessarily call it a “bad” fold, I just wouldn’t call it a “good” fold either.
dude: has 1 pair
dude: checks
caster: wow wtf world class
Negreanu: See everything under the table and just laugh..
Hellmuth: I am the best reader in poker, and i know how to play every cards thay i got (after the hand)
Dwan seriously looks like he is from another planet
Doug Polk’s fold to Helmuth is still the best I’ve seen...
That is the greatest fold ever for sure
The Romanello fold tho WOW
you've got to have a high level of instinct to decide folding hooks without regrets.
Hand where tony g folds ace high flush to straight flush should be on here
Negreanu is a psychic.
I'm re-jamming that Jacks full hand and crying later lol
😂😭😂😭😂
There’s a million hero calls out there cuz people bluff a lot so hero folds are way more intriguing especially when you have second nuts or a really strong hand like nut flush against a boat or boat over boat or quads to boat and or straight flush
First clip sounded like they hired those announcers from Home Depot parking lot
man if that was me playing daniel i'd be scared as hell lol XD be like wtf do i do lol
A slight angle shoot from Dwan. Makes the forward motion like he was going. Ultimately throws it away....
Tom Dwan is a colluder @1:25 seat one signals him he had to cards below 10
It genuinely annoys the hell out of me how frequently this channel plays adverts. You do NOT need 48 adverts in a 15 minute video.
Andy black=Paul giamatti
We can cast him in the movie where Edward Norton is Daniel Negreanu
Good one!
Could you squeeze more adverts in
How come all of these videos are from the 2000s
JT full house lay down is sick omg
daniel's read was phenomenal
Top 5!?! Is this a joke!!??!
Heres how my list would go.
5. Mike Postle, Live at the Bike
4. Mike Postle, Live at the Bike
3. Mike Postle, Live at the Bike
2. Mike Postle, Live at the Bike
1. Mike Postle, Live at the Bike
*Honorable Mention: Mike Postle, Live at the Bike
20/20 and all that, but Geller did all the classic rookie tells: "please don't raise me." then buries his head down trying to feign weakness. i would think a lot of poker pros would have seen through it.
Dwan making that angle shot first hand. I'm suprised the announcers ignored it and most casinos would call it forward momentim forcing him to call.
What ur not showing is the literally tens of thousands of times motormouth negraneau calls it (slightly) wrong...that said, great player
Probably could've made the whole video from reads that Daniel had made. The jacks full lay down was ridiculous.
6:07 (o_O)
15 years later and it’s still both funny and mindboggling that people do not realise Negreanu did this ALL the time, such that you every now and then get it right and look like a genius on TV. Worked like a charm and apparently still does, given the praise here.
The first 2 were perfectly normal for TAG players idk what was so great about those
I've seen folding kings pre flop against aces honestly dont remember where i guess when anette obrestad took his 1st bracelet or ring
Lays down a monster. Should have paid me off on that. The fack you lay that down?
Mickey Hill check out Clowning a Rounders
Pay that man his money