The Absolute JOKE of a Metaverse - Earth 2

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  • The Challenge has been updated, and the result looks VERY bad for Earth 2. The CEO is a paranoid, narcissist who thinks a "shadow cabal" of youtubers is trying to ruin him, their tech has been fairly well replicated by one youtuber in less than a week, and the community is in flames as this "Proprietary Tech" is officially called into question.
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  • @UpperEchelon
    @UpperEchelon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

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    • @Hoparistic
      @Hoparistic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Love your videos, keep exposing frauds!!!

    • @carlroy
      @carlroy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The end of Calum video is priceless!

    • @mightyraptor01
      @mightyraptor01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to play Times 2x on your Video because I was watching another Tatum video, also I always think whenever I see your thumbnail I always feel they remind me of some Call of Duty or Modern Warfare thumbnail video.

    • @Quandry1
      @Quandry1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shane didn't even just try to invalidate the Challenge as it was on going. He actually tried to invalidate it before it was even known about it or accepted. Callum spoke on it a couple different times.

    • @razorwork1
      @razorwork1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had to resubscribe to you 4 times in the last week for some reason! Wtf

  • @VimGamingProductions
    @VimGamingProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1175

    Callum dropping the mic at the end of his video saying he'd sell what he made if he isn't paid out for completing the challenge was amazing.

    • @thecalham
      @thecalham 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Wana will Smith that man so hard

    • @Nathan_Coley
      @Nathan_Coley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      So freaking good!

    • @Tnscla
      @Tnscla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Sell it to next earth

    • @chrisblake4198
      @chrisblake4198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      His counter challenge to Shane to prove E2 had actually met those requirements was the real kingslayer move.

    • @defaulted9485
      @defaulted9485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Callum went for Nuclear Revenge.
      Callum just proved, just by talking at the end of the video, that Shane is the dumbest CEO ever existing by giving some random developer 2 uncontested Nuclear Options to destroy a (dysfunctional) startup.

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    Changing the rules mid challenge is absolutely Artesian.

    • @matthewwest2482
      @matthewwest2482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      we can only hope by some miracle it crashes like them

    • @Pwnopolis
      @Pwnopolis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nice

    • @Bahcorp
      @Bahcorp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Between all socials and Artesian Builds Twitch Panel it's under his threshold even with redeeming qualities, Chaturbabies.

    • @gabler7992
      @gabler7992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      69/69

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +941

    Shane is never going to pay. he cheated and failed to pay the people that found his Egg Hunt Eggs. He is noted for not paying out. Has anybody actually succeeded in cashing out of Earth 2?

    • @anonony9081
      @anonony9081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Yep, people like him are incapable of admitting they were wrong. He will shift the goal posts and use some technicality as to why he thinks he won

    • @984047
      @984047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      People had succeeded cashing out but they are the lucky ones

    • @spottyhead
      @spottyhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@anonony9081 "I did nothing wrong. I did everything correct." - -DarkSydePhil- Shane Isaac

    • @danielclark-hughes692
      @danielclark-hughes692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@spottyhead 😆

    • @spottyhead
      @spottyhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And if you think about it both Shane and DSP operate somewhat on the same level: They tell you to believe in what they're providing you with and expect you to fork over money, constantly negate criticisms and concerns of their fanbases, remove voices or belittle anyone with an opinion that goes against theirs, and believe groups of people outside their communities will be the bringers of their downfalls and not of their own shortcomings.

  • @poeterritory
    @poeterritory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    I'd say, anyone who says the challenge wasn't met has personal stakes in Earth 2. Those who double down now deserve to lose their money.

    • @almalone3282
      @almalone3282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      #Rugpull squad

    • @TempestaDominus
      @TempestaDominus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wonder what Bigfry has to say for this?

    • @wrongthinker843
      @wrongthinker843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They already have, they paid in a ton for something worthless.

    • @almalone3282
      @almalone3282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@wrongthinker843 they paid thousands for Google map images

    • @chucklesdeclown8819
      @chucklesdeclown8819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not only deserve to lose but to not gain anything in their stocks for the next 2 years in light of the name of earth 2

  • @Kalingrato
    @Kalingrato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    No self-respecting "CEO" of any company would challenge a youtuber, or anyone else to anything. They have nothing to prove. Callum (nor anyone in the "Shadow Council") are selling anything, so even if they lose the challenge, they have very little to lose. But what happens when they actually step up to the challenge? You lose big, and that is what happened. This really is just as you said, a big dumpster fire.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      there are actually good ways to do this like many games creating lore and with company staff or even the ceo challenging youtubers to find and explain the story but doing it to a critic to discredit there critscm is really a dumb idea even if they cant do it makes you the actual dev seem really chilldish.

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adriaan4808 Funny, I’ve usually heard it the other way around; the secret group running the world are called a shadow council, and the secret group planning to screw a person over is a cabal. But the terms are pretty much interchangeable as far as most people care.

    • @Kalingrato
      @Kalingrato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@adriaan4808 Thanks for the correction! I edited my post. I used the word because it sounds cool, but glad to be corrected to use the proper one :)

    • @georgercop
      @georgercop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not quite correct. Callum is selling his 7-day model to any Metaverse for the low low price of $10k =P

    • @pallingtontheshrike6374
      @pallingtontheshrike6374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@georgercop hey, compared to earth 2 that's a steel

  • @fluidwolf
    @fluidwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    The fact that they changed the rules mid challenge imo makes Callum win automatically. He agreed to a challenge under specific rules and they tried to change them partway in to make him lose which means they should default imo. Even if Callum hadn't done what he did he should still win imo because he played by the rules while shane decided to try to twist them and throw random accusation out.
    The funny thing about the alleged help tmk was that the accusation came before work had even been started.

    • @ramenbramen3859
      @ramenbramen3859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      They should honor the original challenge. Having regrets after you make a bet is on you, not the person you made the bet with.

    • @QrazyQuarian
      @QrazyQuarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Moving the goalposts is the coward's go-to. The fact that Callum managed to do it despite the dirty and underhanded change is by and large a David and Goliath story that deserves universal praise and acclaim.

    • @Jokervision744
      @Jokervision744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I said somewhere that this was like kids fighting about whose mother makes best food. Game engines are filled with tools enough so that you could say that they are the mother who make the food for other mothers.

  • @chrisblake4198
    @chrisblake4198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    The other thing to remember is, the E2 devlog was meant to show what 'the team' has been doing for MONTHS. To then flip his lid and challenge Callum to do it in a week, was never going to work for Shane. He can claim whatever he likes but this young guy met or came close on every goal and did it for free in his spare time. No matter what, that makes the E2 team look like a bunch of hacks at best.
    Shane is quite literally begging people to realize his grift is precisely what KiraTV has described it as for months-- not a take the money and run rugpull, just a bunch of yokels drawing a salary for doing the bare minimum until the money runs out.

  • @Freddie7191
    @Freddie7191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    You can't really warn people against investing in Earth 2 at this point. Some people will refuse to accept everything's burning until they're engulfed in flames.

    • @treyjordan3168
      @treyjordan3168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Those Flames are already Licking at Their Feet, it's only a Matter of Time now

    • @GabbieTheFox
      @GabbieTheFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Some people are insanely dumb... I know people who have been rugged by an NFT project only to buy into another NFT project by the team that just rugged them and they still think they're the smart ones backing these projects... Despite getting rugged by the exact same team at least three times so far. Some people will refuse to accept everything is burning around them to the death.

    • @Justacheese
      @Justacheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@GabbieTheFox If you don't mind me asking. How did these people you mentioned have enough money to spend on 3 separate NFT projects?
      I don't know the exact prices of the cyrpto currency used to buy NFT's, but I got the rough idea that you would have to spend 1000s of dollars at a time for a single NFT.

    • @GabbieTheFox
      @GabbieTheFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Justacheese No idea to be honest.

    • @Justacheese
      @Justacheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GabbieTheFox Fair enough. Guess it could be people blowing their life savings on the things. Or maybe its people inheriting large amounts of money and then not know what they should do with it.

  • @noahjester8471
    @noahjester8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    Dude... Callum literally said "hold my beer", and wiped his ass with Earth 2. Fucking beautiful.
    Edit: Shane's talking out of his ass about a 1:1 recreation of Earth. The continents of Earth 2 do not shift position. The continents are constantly in a state of movement, but it takes millions of years for something noticeable to happen. Ice and water rising and dissipating isn't the only thing that happens on Earth, Shane!

    • @deathZor42
      @deathZor42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It also looks like he attached the location of water to bump map of his earth, As somebody living in the Netherlands I'm about to see a major bug coming.

    • @alyssavanderklift9296
      @alyssavanderklift9296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@deathZor42 yeah we have those issues in our history... was quite the inconvience when that bugged out irl ;p

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Then there's roads, are they going to have roads in Earth 2? they're always changing. There's no way you can keep Earth 2 up to date, which is why footage always shows rural locations, trees and grass. Sure, you can use algorithmic cleverness to make structures from aerial photography, they did it in the recent Microsoft Flight Simulator. It was okay for flying over less populated areas, but it won't work when you're supposed to be walking around and immersed in a city.

    • @noahjester8471
      @noahjester8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@6581punk Right? Like, how the fuck is this a '1:1 recreation of Earth', when so much is ignored? And I was just just talking about whole continents; Shane would need to code in things like fault lines in order to make it even slightly accurate.

    • @noahjester8471
      @noahjester8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@deathZor42 I'm not familiar with the geological layout of the Netherlands. Lay a pearl of knowledge on me, friend.

  • @Cortanis001
    @Cortanis001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    This is hilarious. Not only did he clearly win on a technical level, but he did so as a lone party with a fraction of the time E2 has had time and staff for. The fact that a lone guy could produce that in less than two weeks should genuinely make everyone who has ever dumped money into E2 consider their legal options at this point.

    • @ramenbramen3859
      @ramenbramen3859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      5 days he didn’t even need the full 7 they made a joke video with the extra time. Just think about that.

    • @CauseImDuncan
      @CauseImDuncan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ramenbramen3859 🤣🤣🤣 I laughed way harder at this than I should have

    • @QrazyQuarian
      @QrazyQuarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truly a David and Goliath moment.

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The real question is, did Earth 2 waste a ton of resources making their "proprietary" tech that could easily be replicated with simple plugins, OR did E2 use the same or similar plugins and Shane is upset that he got called out on it?

    • @monody
      @monody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@Bacteriophagebs
      Callum has demonstrated he's a reasonably good programmer, meaning a simple shader graph plugin wouldn't take him all that long to produce.
      Sebastian Lague, a different programmer that does videos talking about tech and demoing things in Unity, actually made something pretty similar in Unity already too (unrelated to E2 stuff or the challenge), I bring it up only because it's another demonstration of a single person going beyond what E2 has managed.
      Both answers there are troubling for Earth 2 since it's something they should have revved a loooong time ago and been much further along in general development. It could, and should, have been the basis of their whole tile concept instead of their meaningless map database that they will now have to develop a pipeline to translate the tile ownership data into whatever they make in Unreal.

  • @lordspaghettifan5300
    @lordspaghettifan5300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    This is going to end up like that Flat Earth video where a guy challenged people to 100 grand if they could prove the earth was round but changed the bet's rules every time someone actually proved it.

    • @tdsdave
      @tdsdave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's a kind of religious mindset, there is a challenge in the Quran that if anyone can create a sura( verse ) like one found in the Quran then the Quran is false. But there is no qualifying meat on the bones of what "like " entails , so it's arbitrary what the criteria of success is, and so also arbitrary why any attempt would be deemed a failure..The Quran also goes onto say that it is impossible to create such a verse. Now the only judges are Muslims , and they believe the Quran , so they must believe such a feat is impossible because the Quran says it is, and if they even consider a verse meets the goal that means they are unbelievers and will burn in hell fire. So the challenge is laid out , and the Muslim is obligated to say fail to any attempt at it, it's not really a sincere challenge at all .

  • @anonony9081
    @anonony9081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    This is funny but none of it really matters. Anyone willing to invest in a project like earth 2 already has their brain turned off and won't change their attitude based on this happening

    • @MrDiggityaus
      @MrDiggityaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s more the corporate investors and advisors that, if they have any morals, will question their involvement and financial stake.

    • @randomuserame
      @randomuserame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not for them. It's ammunition for regulators

    • @randomuserame
      @randomuserame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrDiggityaus
      > corporate investors
      > Morals
      Two opposites cannot occupy the same space at the same time. Pick one
      Also they do t give a f** about morals. They care if its a financial risk. And there is no financial risk because there's no regulation, no consumer peotection, no real legal remedy for 90% of victims, and no way to force a refund/clawback.
      *Yet.*

    • @MrDiggityaus
      @MrDiggityaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomuserame yeah that is what I meant, I just worded it wrong.

  • @arne1881
    @arne1881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I have been programming games for about 12 years now, in a bunch of different engines.. And i have to say, even IF Callum did not beat the challenge, he is still 100% correct. What was shown in the Earth 2 showcase video is something someone could do in a day or two. At least the technical part of it.. Now, making this playable, and an actual good game, thats another story..

    • @johnhonker437
      @johnhonker437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True, and making a playable game is certainly something that the Earth2 devs have NOT done, and probably never will.

    • @brendancross8793
      @brendancross8793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have any work online by any chance?

    • @arne1881
      @arne1881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brendancross8793 Yes, i do. But i fail to see how that is relevant here.

  • @Jigamanx2
    @Jigamanx2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    E2’s “demo” was way more visually appealing….that’s it. Callum seems to have replicated the demo in a week, even if we deduct points for visuals he still replicated E2’s demo in a week lmao

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also E2s demo is fake. It's just a CGI movie.

  • @anarchyxf36
    @anarchyxf36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    It's like the whole day of dra-goons fiasco all over again lol. I mean really lets run down the comparison list...
    1 - Cons a crap ton of money out of people for an immense and massive project - check
    2 - Blames youtubers for being brutally honest about their "game" (if you could call it that) being crap - check
    3 - Pays an obscene amount of money to others to make pretty graphical and rendering fantasy artwork and store bought assets only to claim it as their own, even though the "project creator" never made it - check
    4 - Project creator incites die hard brain washed morons in thier community to attack and lash out at anyone who says anything bad about said project or project creator - check
    5 - No basis lawsuits, copyright strikes, and DMCA take downs to censor anything bad said about the project creators crap scam project - big fat check on that one
    6 - Project creator self destructs and commits career suicide - yea at this point thanks to callum i'd say that's a definite check
    Yep, no... it's all just a TOTAL conspiracy against em, no reason at all they don't bring it on themselves *facepalm* lmao

    • @simonpetrikov3992
      @simonpetrikov3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1-4 on the list is enough to have a conspiracy form to go after you and 1-4 are preventable

  • @Alorand
    @Alorand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Wait, why can't our "shadowy conspiracy" start building useful tools for a virtual world from this?

    • @MrLebruleur
      @MrLebruleur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Callum is literally already doing this to Dreamworld by making Nightmareworld, give the man a break

    • @vicca4671
      @vicca4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrLebruleur I'm always humbled by his productivity. Spite is indeed the most powerful source of determination.

  • @sacb0y
    @sacb0y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The thing is I think what this dude did is actually BETTER than the tech showed in the E2 flythrough video.
    Because to me the E2 video looks like a texture, and that means the likely case is this video is Adobe Substance Designer material.
    Maybe something like this:
    th-cam.com/video/Aj8ARuWupek/w-d-xo.html
    To explain, substance designer uses math to degenerate complex textures even in realtime, it's used in some modern games for stuff like generating puddles in rain and other occasional dynamic elements. But those outputs are always texture.
    You don't need "proprietary" technology for a tech demo like this, cause it doesn't show an actual game. And the reason it doesn't show an actual game is cause the closer you get to the ground the more apparent the resolution becomes. Note how nowhere in the video (as far as I've seen shown here) do actual trees appear. Note the water above all, looks very flat without depth. Thats not real water, it's a floor that's painted like water. You couldn't even show waves on that.
    In comparison, the demo this guy made looks like an actual functional game, it has an actual real water surface with depth. It uses an apparent shader to adjust the snow, there's visible plants. This is an actual functional demo you could build a game with.
    I think the E2 videos are connecting two disconnected videos, the asset flip "playable" demo showed, and the fly through are not the same "game".

    • @PipoZePoulp
      @PipoZePoulp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bumping for visibility

    • @TheTrashman147
      @TheTrashman147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! The earth 2 video looks like a plastic model to me and not an actual 3d rendered scene like callum's

    • @kveller555
      @kveller555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment should be higher up. Those are some really good points.

  • @themiddleman1670
    @themiddleman1670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Callum is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will... something shane know very little about.
    I just saw him complete the challenge in his channel with a FUCKIN 7 days
    Lol 😂😂😂😂

    • @yungzhe
      @yungzhe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and he started with his PENCIL.

  • @Gojira_Wins
    @Gojira_Wins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I am a UE5 Indie Developer and I gotta say, Earth 2s marketing video is nothing but boring stuff you can find in most basic UE4 and UE5 engines. Just knowing how to create a landscape texture blend is enough to debunk half of this. Not to mention, E2 didn't even bother implementing "cell bombing" or "tile mixing". You just see a ton of tiles all over the place with repetitive textures. To the normal person, E2 looks great but to everyone else, it looks like baseline crap.
    E2 is not impressive and the CEO is a lying nutjob that needs to be sued into oblivion for his deceptive practices.

    • @briankennedy3038
      @briankennedy3038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please point me to an indie UE5 game with these dynamic fractal effects. I haven't seen anything this impressive with this much visual fidelity. Here's what another UE5 developer said.
      "Challengers outcome is not even close. You can not seriously look at the two side by side and claim they are similar. Furthermore, saying "pretty good for just a week", doesn't fly with me, because Callum claimed it could be done in 30 minutes.
      And no, I don't like Earth 2, am not interested in it, at all.
      Callums terrain is clearly noise based, not parametric fractal. His mountains are smooth, showing no water channeling or tectonic stress. No amount of "aesthtic tweaking" could match Earth2's, because callum is using perlin or (in my case) simplex noise. Callum would need a lot more time to reproduce what Earth 2 has done, and he would need to restart from the ground up using parametric fractals, not perlin noise.
      Callum's water does not come cloase to Earth2's. (look at it and tell me it is the same!) When the water level rises, it's just a plane (or fog) rising. The shoreline colors and biomes of the map do not change like Earth2's does.
      Earth2 deserves some respect for their Terrain Generator. I would be happy to have one like it in my game! (However, the snow system of theirs lacks compared to mine, IMHO, and their biome system also appear to just be fractal normalization, and not using actual weather / heat /moisture simulations like I am attempting) but the mountains and shore lines are gorgeous.
      Earth 2's generator appears to have a bit of a problem with reproducing flatlands. It is quite a challenge to do so with what appears to be their parametric fractal modeling. The world is not just mountains and sea, as beautiful as it may look from a glance. Their snow is poor. Note the ridge loses snow slower than the valleys, everywhere. While this would be the case in vegetated valleys, in high mountain valleys, the snow collects in the lower areas and the ridges melt first, but in niether case, does the snow stick to the ridges. They still have a lot more work to do. (my snow has the same problem)."

    • @asdfractal8115
      @asdfractal8115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@briankennedy3038 You're mixing up the texture with technical features.

    • @anderskronquist9750
      @anderskronquist9750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@briankennedy3038 No, Callum said one of its feature - the "metallicness" of the objects - could be done in 30 minutes. Which he did, because it's very easy to do in two of the commonly used game/3D engines available. Callum also doesn't have to reproduce the same quality that E2 had in its demo, he has to fulfil the initial requirements stated by Shane.
      Either way you look at it, Shane should not have offered this challenge to Callum, and - for E2's value to be anywhere near what they claim - Callum should not have been able to get as far as he did in just one week. This is egg on the face of Shane and E2's dev team - hey, for all I know, it's not their fault, but their CEO bragged about them publicly, so they get tarred with the same brush. For all I know, E2s super-duper proprietary stuff is mega-awesome and definitely worth all the money Shane has put into it; but that's not evident after this showing. Don't brag about your stuff then get huffy when someone asks why it's so impressive - if it really is as awesome as you say it is, you should be happy to show it off to people (put in a "not a final product" banner on it, or whatever).
      By acting in this way, it just seems so tacky and small of Shane and E2. A good-spirited challenge would've been fine - "hey, if you think you're hot shit, do it yourself in a week, man!" - and if Shane had said "man, that's pretty cool for a week - not as good as our stuff, sure, but damn, kudos!" and paid out, he would have gotten cred for it, and could have shown himself to be a better person (and probably gotten acknowledgment from the "shadow cabal" too). This is just sad.

    • @doryfishie2
      @doryfishie2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@briankennedy3038 So you're just copy-pasting a quote from an unidentified UE5 developer. You don't actually understand any of this right?

    • @reallyanotheruser7290
      @reallyanotheruser7290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@briankennedy3038 So the challenge was to use heightmap data stored on the drive. This data has to come from somewhere. Shane stated they were showing a geographical location, which tells me they were using real elevation data. Callum is using Perlin noise to create the elevation data, because he asked Shane for the real data and didnt get an answer. If Callum had the data his version would look VERY similiar (apart from the shaders). Also its clearly visible that E2 is using standard Perlin noise to create the biomes.

  • @Zgio
    @Zgio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Nothing brings me more joy than seeing UEG tearing yet a new one into Earth 2

  • @alejandrodanielcortonacost703
    @alejandrodanielcortonacost703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    These buffons are the gift that keeps on giving

    • @bloodbath-and-beyond
      @bloodbath-and-beyond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It must suck sharing the same character trait as herpes. 😂

  • @Captain_Hapton
    @Captain_Hapton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Man, if Shane Isaac's looking like Tom Hanks after he just spent a few years alone on a desert island NOW, I can't imagine what the guy's gonna look like after his biggest competitors in the metaverse space are fighting each other over Callum's project that Shane's never going to get.

    • @spottyhead
      @spottyhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trevor Phillips with a beard and some raggedy-ass hair?

  • @blackroberts6290
    @blackroberts6290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Callum is like that 'mediocre pianist guy'. but for Game Development

    • @watema3381
      @watema3381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The "Mediocre Pianist Guy" is a complete beast

    • @NemoracStrebor
      @NemoracStrebor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@watema3381 Who is the "Mediocre Pianist Guy"?

    • @thefirsttrillionaire2925
      @thefirsttrillionaire2925 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@watema3381 tell me 😩

    • @zeroundying
      @zeroundying 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NemoracStrebor look up "Fanchen Rush E," or "Penguinz0 when the villain is talented."

    • @jimjones9631
      @jimjones9631 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. It's more like an arrogant composer looking down on a pianist then it turns out the pianist is a savant and can write a composition better than he ever could

  • @MrArgus11111
    @MrArgus11111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Callum did it in a week but you are missing the big picture here: Shane ads a lot of value to Earth 2 that Callum can't such as, and, as well as, and with that I have to get something from my car.

  • @seaglass3034
    @seaglass3034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "Shadowy Cabal" is really just the internet BBB. Good job covering this god awful grift. Get bent, Shane.

  • @brandondrake4609
    @brandondrake4609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Earth 2 is one of the greatest sagas I’ve witnessed in years. Thanks for all this UEG

  • @mattguy1773
    @mattguy1773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Earth 2 is the worst sequel ever

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Earth 2: The electric scamaroo!

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    How embarrassing for Shane.
    Pay up, boy!
    🎩
    🐍no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

  • @beachside1
    @beachside1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A CEO of a company with a team of devs was just showed up by a single youtuber is sad. Shane should either pay Callum a huge salary and let him build this sheate show or just fire his whole team. Callum did this whole trailer in less that 7 days. Pretty sad for E2. Im soo glad I subbed your channel Upper Echelon. Your narration is more impressive than the CE ohhhhhh of E2. Now put on your big boy pants Shane and pay the man..

  • @sinisterhistory8801
    @sinisterhistory8801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Callum killed it. Shane better pay up
    Edit: Also, first! Haha

  • @fleiwerks
    @fleiwerks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have some understanding of how procedural generation works and I even made a blender add on that makes very detailed planets. I'm sure I could make something like Earth 2 very easily given enough time. It really isn't that impressive.

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  • @mven
    @mven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Seriously, though, do those mountain ranges look convincing to *anyone*? I mean sure they're definitely using SRTM data as a base map, but all of the high-res parts are just variations on Perlin noise! Most of those ridges are recognizably fractal absolute value Perlin, and making it look super-HD like that is really just such a wee extra rendering step that I almost feel like pulling a Callum Upton myself on this ridiculous project :D

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I felt Callum’s looked better as it didn’t look like something you could do by going to Google Earth and messing around with a few settings.

  • @trolltollz1317
    @trolltollz1317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Well played Callum! This shit show has been entertaining to laugh at if nothing else.

  • @SleepyMatt-zzz
    @SleepyMatt-zzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The idea that the dev didn't complete the challenge because Shane said that he didn't complete "challenge 5" is a pretty laughable thing to nit-pick.
    Getting height maps from real maps is very easy, and very easy to put into unreal engine. Just use terrain party, problem solved. I used to use them a lot when I made maps on city skylines.

  • @Righteous_Destiny
    @Righteous_Destiny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Since E2 hasn't proven that they have created what they claimed, Callum's system is technically better.

  • @maximillionpegasus5654
    @maximillionpegasus5654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yea, Callum just won 10K earth 2 dollars. He can buy earth 2 Wyoming now. Good for him.

  • @Gakusangi
    @Gakusangi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One guy, not even one week. Imagine if he teamed up with one other guy that had a better eye for cinematography and they'd make something that not only could do everything Earth2's presentation did, but probably look and function even better in like a week.

  • @mitchgreen-poisson6776
    @mitchgreen-poisson6776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Even if he didn't replacate it, dude straight up did in a week what took them how long 😂

    • @spottyhead
      @spottyhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phase 1 was announced Dec 2020

  • @violatress
    @violatress 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I haven't seen such levels of delusion and incompetence since the days of Chris Chan believing he's developing a Sonichu game for Nintendo. Great job Callum for calling out these clowns. Seeing the excuses and copium from the likes of Arya will be the real entertainment here though!

  • @danepatterson8107
    @danepatterson8107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    To me, the plug-in content is decent, but looks like it was derived from free-ware plug-ins. The Earth2 video looks like an E3 non-playable graphics model presented by marketing dicks. It reminds me of the promise of Anthem prior to the actual release of Anthem... a false promise. I don't think the challenge was upheld by the challenger. But I'm no video game programmer or expert.

    • @kevin537
      @kevin537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The challenge was for technical capabilities, not artistic. Callum is not an artist, nor does he pretend to be, nor did he criticize E2's art. It is a completely different skill set.

  • @Crimson_Hawk_01
    @Crimson_Hawk_01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If my biggest investment gets butt hurt over a small fry TH-cam creator I would sell all my stock immediately!

  • @Carnyzzle
    @Carnyzzle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The best part is all the Earth 2 fanboys really thought that Callum couldn't copy what Earth 2 did

  • @juances
    @juances 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Shane's arguments trying to undermine the whole thing don't really go anywhere.
    I mean, regardless if Callum worked alone or these some shadow illuminati youtuber conspiracy, it won't change the fact that E2's team wasted months and thousands of dollars from their "investors" developing some "propietary" software that's easily replicable in a week. Even if he tries to invalidate the challenge with that argument, it still makes his devlog look bad.

  • @thereisnousername99
    @thereisnousername99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn, wish I brought popcorn.

  • @annocraft
    @annocraft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They are not the first created such a system, only just one that probably works in real time. For example, there are also renderers in various universities that deal with the evolution of Earth and Mars, among other things. It just doesn't look that good and the calculations usually take several months, but such systems already existed. Ubisoft is also working (or has) on such a landscape system for Beyond Good and Evil 2. You can even see that in one of their dev log videos.

    • @Joviex
      @Joviex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "realtime" okies!

  • @payton.a.elliott
    @payton.a.elliott 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I myself have come close to replicating this same "proprietary tech" in Unreal Engine by following a tutorial.

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  • @Cheesecannon25
    @Cheesecannon25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That insider build of E2 stuff looks like a slightly more updated version of the DRONE editor with an e2 texture applied to a few objects

    • @TinyEle
      @TinyEle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird you mention that...

  • @Cubinator73
    @Cubinator73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just wait for Earth 2 II. "We improved our proprietary lighting system!! We now use the depth buffer from different perspectives to calculate realistic shadows. The result will put even Nvidia's RTX to shame!"

  • @Blank-41
    @Blank-41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think we all knew that Shane was never going to pay in the first place.

  • @fateric007
    @fateric007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Will this dumpster fire ever burn out?

    • @Thagrynor
      @Thagrynor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God, I hope not. This is so entertaining to watch. Watching Callum, in 5 days, recreate the tech Shane "Hobo Jones" Isaac said took dozens of developers months to create and then post the video swinging that BDE right upside Shane's head like he was Will Smith and Shane was Chris Rock was amazing.

  • @Anugrah_Amriza
    @Anugrah_Amriza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The short summary of the video: _The world does Not revolve around you Shane_

  • @NSKLPs
    @NSKLPs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm fairly sure Earth2's devlog footage was just made using a software suite called "World Creator". From memory it does everything they show, to the same graphical fidelity, literally out of the box with no extra plugins or anything. It does more than what their devlog video shows, actually (it can do realtime erosion simulation and more nuanced stuff like that). It's just subscription software. You could make that footage by just editing together recordings of the project from World Creator.

  • @danielclark-hughes692
    @danielclark-hughes692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    UEG is making more money from Earth2 than the people buying these worthless tiles

  • @thepunchableface1506
    @thepunchableface1506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shane doesn't keep his promises. He won't pay Callum and he won't deliver E2 either.

  • @TheSDBux
    @TheSDBux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GuidebookGaming actually believes Callum won.

  • @kmurphy0620
    @kmurphy0620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NFT's make such good content, and I don't mean the plots of land or monkey pictures, but youtube videos showing how much of a sham they are.

  • @zeening
    @zeening 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this shit is incredible, callum is a legend lol i genuinely hope he sells this to one of the other projects

  • @Solkard
    @Solkard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thing is that none of the investors are likely of any notable intelligence to begin with. If they were, they would be looking at how Shane is responding to the whole thing as a big red flag. Do you really want to do business with someone who will either reneg on agreements or constantly try to redefine the terms of said agreements when an outcome becomes unfavorable for him? This shows not only a lack of integrity, but lack of foresight to have planned for such an outcome to begin with.
    This is the type of personality who sells products on eBay and then tries to justify only sending an empty box or picture of said item, because that’s what they showed in the listing. Or someone who forgets to bring their own lunch and then will eat someone else’s because it didn’t have their name on it.

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  • @KvapuJanjalia
    @KvapuJanjalia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Earth 2 IS the shadowy conspiracy.

  • @kempolar9768
    @kempolar9768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wanted to come back here to say that the number of people accusing UEG of being in "Shadow cabal" is currently at 2. Will edit if more come out.
    1. Shane Issac - Earth 2 CEO
    2. Business Casual - TH-camr trying to make more laws around copyright
    3. ...

  • @thesherbet
    @thesherbet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    just the fact that a CEO issued this challenge to a specfic youtuber is enough of a reason to never touch the project no matter what other information there is to go on.

  • @magnemoe1
    @magnemoe1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shadow cabal == honest people calling out you very obvious scam.
    Said by some who can not understand why some want to expose a scam, its no money in it.

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  • @TheArchemman
    @TheArchemman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember what my dad always tells me, whenever we good fishing. The best way to catch a fish is by its mouth.

  • @directAction3389
    @directAction3389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shane's just another guy who doesn't get how the internet works. You put yourself out there and do ANYTHING, absolutely anything at all and you WILL get some detractors. Someone somewhere won't like what you did. It's pity he hasn't grown enough of a spine to handle all this criticism very well.

  • @flightlessbird2281
    @flightlessbird2281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Callum is an absolute BOSS.
    Shane is a sham.

  • @deividaszubLT
    @deividaszubLT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol this is just made with "World machine" engine. Then in that engine you just need to change height map settings for biomes and then blend textures in any game engine.... The dude who tried to replicate earth 2 did overkill... You can even see the limits of the land you can generate with world machine.....

  • @mowsefmow8177
    @mowsefmow8177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i just don't see anybody being able to use these technologies, especially in VR, on consumer PCs for some time; not in any complex way, anyway

  • @sagenerd419
    @sagenerd419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    InB4 : some youtuber finds out earth 2 whole sale copies this youtuber's challenge project into their code 🤣

  • @Khalith
    @Khalith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whether Shane believes it or not, Callum made his point even if not a victory in this stupid challenge it’s a moral victory.

    • @duskblade1119
      @duskblade1119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the work of a single person in a week is remotely comparable to what supposedly took 60 people 2 years to accomplish, it should be a serious red flag to anyone considering investing in the latter.

  • @captainblackmane7413
    @captainblackmane7413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shame you weren't part of the shadow cabal april fool's Josh Strife did. Was hoping you were in it when I saw the other brothers getting called in it.

  • @hotchips786
    @hotchips786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont know Callums graphics and stuff looks really bad , maybe PS1 level

  • @velho6298
    @velho6298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's crazy that Upton could even achieve the same level of accuracy than million dollar company over 1.5 years

  • @ains2904
    @ains2904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They bought drone the game and instantly killed it.

  • @Rainec777
    @Rainec777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like the Earth 2 stuff is pretty basic, like some World Machine or Houdini stuff almost any one person really could do with training and a powerful rig. It's honestly more impressive Upton is showing his work as functional in UE4, while the Earth 2 stuff I've seen doesn't indicate it is something that can be played. Earth 2 is like No Man's Sky syndrome where there is no guarantee or indication that the areas in the footage shown weren't dolled up specifically to be shown off. There is no longer anything impressive about massive landscapes in modern CG. The land looking good, being properly interactible, and not running like crap on a consumer-level system is what is impressive. Upton's might be less visually pretty, but purely procedural stuff made solo in just a week would undoubtedly be. Upton totally won.

  • @SupremeRTS
    @SupremeRTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God callum deserves some serious praise

  • @A_Stereotypical_Heretic
    @A_Stereotypical_Heretic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best thing Shane can do is stfu and beg Callum to join his dev team lol starting with a 10k bonus.

  • @The_Slavstralian
    @The_Slavstralian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its almost a sure thing that the CEO will not pay up. You could bet your house on it.

  • @bradmiley
    @bradmiley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    .... and since Callum's version wasn't simply a blatant cash-grab, it had actual love in it. As opposed to simply mere greed.
    Blaming their failures on some kind of scary Illuminati (*obviously* Sid Alpha in a cloak and reflective sunglasses no doubt!) weaving behind the scenes evil, is the kind of easy get-out-of-jail-free card that has to be produced as fast as possible.
    And that's *vital*, since once the smoke and mirrors are removed to reveal not a wizard spinning the lead into gold, but simply just some bloke pulling levers and generating pretty illusions, the investors will actually learn the truth. And Earth2 CANNOT have that happen. They NEED people to believe in the alchemy. Otherwise, where is their USP? Gone!
    Sorry Shane, you can't move those goalposts anywhere NEAR enough. Time to dig deep, swallow hard, and pay up.

    • @spottyhead
      @spottyhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Basically taking the "Oh you're just a hater" rebuttal to the next level. I know when I stub my toe in the middle of the night I always blame the Cloud People

  • @LordHolley
    @LordHolley 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing that blew my mind on Earth 2 was how much they were charging for land. What makes that land worth anything? Especially when anybody else could go out and just make another Earth.... E3, E4, E147, all of them worth poo. Cool concept, but focus on building the community first rather than trying to BS people into thinking it's something that it's not. Then, it would have actual value.

    • @Zekium
      @Zekium 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Basically, replace lands by N*T and you'll get the answer to your question and whole statement.

  • @WoolfJ35
    @WoolfJ35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Callum whip it out and broke the damn table 👏 lol

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesterday I thought of your channel and googled “Earth 2 in 2022” - was so surreal to wake up and see you’d made a video on it today!

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  • @Jokervision744
    @Jokervision744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think anyone with slight idea what game engines do, can see the bullshit.

  • @CallumUpton
    @CallumUpton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at long last, i can sleep now 😆

  • @razorwork1
    @razorwork1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God damn that's the 4th time in a row I've had to re-subscribe to you in as many days wtf

  • @ericvenne9217
    @ericvenne9217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just want to say glad your talking about this. Because I cant stand these blatant lies. Its just buzzwords and false hype.

  • @ernieb352
    @ernieb352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Earth 2 season 2 so far has been as good as season 1, loving the show so far.

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahhh, those "proprietary" store bought plugins... remind anyone of a space game?

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Care to elaborate? Im genuinely curious... u talking about kerbal space program? And if yes, can you point me in the drama's direction? I have no clue but Im interested! Thanks!

  • @skyesfury8511
    @skyesfury8511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love that this is a gift that just keeps giving and giving and giving and giving and giving and giving.
    Shane won't pay. We all knew that from the moment the challenge was issued.

  • @tylerward4386
    @tylerward4386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should have agreed to have a 3rd party determine if the challenge was met and/or a contract drawn up. Honestly never heard of earth 2 clicked on the video because "metaverse." However it definately looks like he met the challenge as was originally written. And yeah if true, it's a massive reputation blow to the company but more than that it really should raise concern about the CEO's ability to lead a project.

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  • @carlroy
    @carlroy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ceo of this company looks like Jack Murphy.

  • @VixYW
    @VixYW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's even better if he doesn't get paid, because he said if he didn't he would sell what he had done to anyone willing to pay 10K for it. Imagine someone buying it and creating a better and more grounded competitor to E2, kicking them out of the market? That would be legendary.

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  • @ObeyBanksy
    @ObeyBanksy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said bud.... Shane Isaac is sooooo jealous of Earth 3, I heard Arya is already trying to unload his E2 squares and flip them for E3 squares.

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  • @flightlessbird2281
    @flightlessbird2281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sham paid for a video, it's not an engine, Callum made an engine

  • @NebMotion
    @NebMotion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love all these game channels calling out this bullshit

    • @user-ed6li8zn1e
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  • @khandimahn9687
    @khandimahn9687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw Callum's post when it went live. It was glorious. Josh Strife Hayes' narration was perfect. Of course Shane will complain and say anything to get out of paying up.

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  • @Yolkiooo
    @Yolkiooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Callum absolutely spanked Shane who should have been embarrassed before, but I guess it's a game of limbo figuring out how low he can go 🙄

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  • @goddimmus
    @goddimmus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had been watching Callum on and off but when he took on an entire abusive company of assholes I subbed and will continue to watch him as now, I respect him. He fucking grabbed the gauntlet that Shane dropped. He inserted the stones, grabbed his HUGE bolloks, and Thanos snapped Earth 2's entire career!

  • @allgreatnike1009
    @allgreatnike1009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Callum did everything earth 2 has done and more. E2 is now a bigger joke now than it was before... somehow.😂

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  • @GWConspiracy
    @GWConspiracy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol a crypto bro not paying when promised? How unexpected...

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