Here’s when you should buy Apple’s cheapest devices

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  • @jamiepoirier1444
    @jamiepoirier1444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1448

    Jonathon, I'm really liking the consumer/user focused direction on this channel. Many Apple channels seem to chase the hot button talking points with new devices (no shade to them, that's important too!), but I really like how your videos feel somewhat niche while also posing interesting questions that feel more applicable and grounded to the average tech user. Props to you and all involved!

    • @johansugarev
      @johansugarev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This remains the only LTT Chanel that delivers interesting content for me. Lost all interest in x86 since the M1.

    • @Montisaquadeis
      @Montisaquadeis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@johansugarev As a PC Gamer x86 is still completely relivent for me personally and I am liking the content that LTT is putting out on the Steam Deck and just Linux in general (month long linux challenege anyone?) So I am the complete oppisite of what you are interested in.

    • @johansugarev
      @johansugarev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@Montisaquadeis That's good. I personally don't get why the steam deck exists, but then again I don't leave the house often. My PS4 plays games just fine.

    • @necroowl3953
      @necroowl3953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Montisaquadeis not a challenge if you find it better than other OS

    • @Montisaquadeis
      @Montisaquadeis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@necroowl3953 *facepalms* I was talking about the Linux Challenge set of videos that Linus and Luke did for a month

  • @boshbogle
    @boshbogle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1348

    The base model MacBook Air is probably the best thing Apple has made in a while. I use it for school everyday and it runs all of my editing software perfectly.

    • @22Tech
      @22Tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      yeah seriously, plus the build quality and everything else is, well, apple quality, and it's super fast like you said. just wish it had more ports

    • @timsonxx
      @timsonxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oh yeah i got one for about 850€ a few months back. I use it for work and for entertainment and it is so great. Mz first mac experience and i really love it

    • @boshbogle
      @boshbogle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@22Tech definitely wish it had more ports. at least a usb a and a sd card reader

    • @22Tech
      @22Tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@boshbogle yeah, or hell even just more usb c ports on the OTHER side. that would be better than nothing, also support for more than one external display

    • @Watchandlearn91
      @Watchandlearn91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@22Tech I also love my MBA but that is one thing I would change. It would be nice to be able to charge it or plug stuff in on the other side. If they were going to stick with 2 TB ports, I wish they had gone 1 port on each side.

  • @Naviss
    @Naviss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +519

    During the holidays, Base model iPad's can drop down to $250. For the price, They are unbeatable. Even bought my parents their own as well. They really are great for everyone that just needs a tablet for general use.

    • @eric000
      @eric000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can you tell at which store? So that I can watch out for the next holidays. Thanks!

    • @Naviss
      @Naviss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@eric000 A couple years ago I got all mine from Best Buy, during Black Friday sales. I noticed Target also had them that year. With the chip shortage, and price increases now days they may not drop that low again. But I’m sure you could find a deal that’s not to far off.

    • @eric000
      @eric000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Naviss Thanks will keep in mind next holidays. I never knew this.

    • @lifeisshørt_420
      @lifeisshørt_420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow that’s an incredible deal

    • @RackaApps
      @RackaApps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep. Also WiFi only iPads are just usually better deals than the cellular models if you don't need cellular. Even in my country where Apple products are usually more expensive than the US & UK you can still get very cheap and discounted based model wifi only iPads.

  • @TheDinotz
    @TheDinotz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Honestly the M1 transition has truly made Apple an actual reasonable competitor on the laptop space. Just today managed to snag a base line Macbook Air close to damn brand new for less than 800 Euros and wow, I am impressed.

    • @mpa209
      @mpa209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, got mine a couple of Months ago for ~850€ and its brilliant

  • @Lync512
    @Lync512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +785

    I got a base model M1 MacBook air for school and development. And this thing is seriously amazing. Its far better than my other laptop that costs twice as much. And I can get away with not carrying a charger with me when I go out for school and work.

    • @RiveraShatz
      @RiveraShatz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      And u dont need to deal with windows powershell

    • @Tonyisgaming
      @Tonyisgaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I know right? Never imagined not needing a charger for my laptop. Especially with this performance.

    • @eulehund99
      @eulehund99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@RiveraShatz What's the problem with that?

    • @Lync512
      @Lync512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Tonyisgaming it’s actually kind of hard to believe. It’s closer in performance to my custom desktop than my old laptops. And I have to keep reminding myself it has no fan and is a base model computer.
      The battery as well. I love not carrying a charger. I just have to leave home with my laptop and not worry that it’ll die in the middle of the day.

    • @Lync512
      @Lync512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Greg I don’t think they’re going back to intel any time soon.
      Macs went from in my eyes over priced and lower performance than completion machines to absolutely worth the price.
      I doubt I’ll want to get another like of laptop after this to be honest.

  • @RackaApps
    @RackaApps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    This is one of the best Apple-centric channel on TH-cam.
    Doesn't try to make controversial claims that will stir up backlash.
    Doesn't try to paint other companies as bad and inferior to Apple.
    Speaks honest stuff that isn't filled with fanboy justifications.
    And most importantly puts out consumer/user focused videos that are actually helpful if you want or use Apple products. Hats off to Jonathan and the team. Simply the best out there.

  • @menjivarTv
    @menjivarTv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The base iPad 2018 was my gateway into the Apple the ecosystem, I bought it when the iPhone 11 was the newest one and for half the price you were getting a higher resolution screen and more functionality.

  • @Ben-ig3bf
    @Ben-ig3bf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I agree *somewhat*. What I can tell y'all: Dont cheap out on the mac storage and ram. you cant upgrade it after it and *trust me*, you do not wanna be stuck with 256gb storage and 8gb ram 5 years down the line.

    • @macaddress
      @macaddress  2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      Yah that's true, with RAM especially. Though, I think if you have a Mac Mini, getting an external hard drive for file storage would be better value since the computer's just going to be sitting there anyway.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah. Just backup stuff more often. Not a big deal.

    • @Ben-ig3bf
      @Ben-ig3bf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@macaddress Yes, that is true with the mac mini. I really like the older mac minis tho because you could upgrade ram. Would be so cool if apple brought back ram and storage upgrades, but apple is gonna be apple and not do that. Can always dream about it when I close my eyes tho xD

    • @DaemonViews
      @DaemonViews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Funny thing is that the 8 GB of RAM on the MacBook aren't that big of a deal. Can't remember if it was Austin or another channel that went into that.
      I have it in base stuff. External SSD for my large stuff. 1TB Samsung SSD. Upgrading to that internally...
      And the 8gb of RAM is good enough for everything for me and seems to cope way better than 8gb of RAM on a Windows device would. Where 16gb gives me the same experience day to day.

    • @monara97
      @monara97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      don't forget that most people buy the base model with what all they have. if it's enough in 5 year you can always sell it. so I wouldn't moan about it.

  • @sejoki1
    @sejoki1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    They actually fixed the "reset to update" requirement for the series 3 with watchOS 8. I still use mine every day from when I bought it in 2016, but it's just not a great experience anymore.

    • @battman505
      @battman505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Better just to add 50 dollars and go for the se

    • @Watchandlearn91
      @Watchandlearn91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@battman505 I think it's 80 bucks but still I agree. I am convinced that Apple sometimes keeps the base model products around to convince users to buy a higher end one. Like you look at the Series 3 on the product page and automatically want to get the SE or the 7.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Series 3is fine, just not as nice as the newer models. I daily drive a 3.

    • @spencercarruth9706
      @spencercarruth9706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Series 3 came out in 2017, so I find it somewhat hard to believe that you purchased said watch in 2016.

    • @zachattackp1566
      @zachattackp1566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      only on the Cellular model. I still need to unpair my GPS model.

  • @arthuralford
    @arthuralford 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I own both an iPhone SE and an iPad 9th gen, and feel I got a tremendous value without losing anything important

    • @charlieb2072
      @charlieb2072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u still own both?

  • @jessicawilson8240
    @jessicawilson8240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I always get my phones on contract and for a few phones there I would get the lowest storage option… and ALWAYS regret it. Like I’m pretty sure my first 3 iPhones were 4, 8 and 16gb in order and it was absolutely not enough. Things take up more space now, yeah, but I love that the base storage for their devices now is enough that the average casual user won’t really have to worry about it.

  • @Interface_
    @Interface_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    OMG i wartet soooo long for a new video! Good quality and interesting topic!

    • @macaddress
      @macaddress  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks!

    • @jaxfilm
      @jaxfilm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      please don’t correct the typo lol it’s hilarious

    • @Interface_
      @Interface_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jaxfilm bruh imagine you are Austrian and autocorrect kicks XD

    • @mafia_trilogy_enjoyer
      @mafia_trilogy_enjoyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "i wartet"

    • @Interface_
      @Interface_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mafia_trilogy_enjoyer As I said, German keyboard lol

  • @Standaardnaam
    @Standaardnaam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    iPhone SE is a really good phone with a great processor, for a very accessible price. For most people, and certainly for me, the only real downside is the small battery. Choosing this over the premium phone leaves you (a lot of) money to spend on e.g. a better laptop or desktop, where that money can really get you a lot of extra performance.

    • @eddiem2343
      @eddiem2343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How is the battery on it?

    • @bigtitmaster
      @bigtitmaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@eddiem2343 not very good. My mom has one

    • @2plus2thats4
      @2plus2thats4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eddiem2343 Problem is, to my knowledge it has the same battery (size) as the iPhone 8 but uses a newer and therefore much more powerconsuming processor.

    • @---sg9zj
      @---sg9zj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@2plus2thats4 keep in mind that the newer processor is also a lot more efficient. In my testing the SE well outlasted the 8 (both at 100% battery health)

    • @logan.5413
      @logan.5413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But it still has a home button and no face id

  • @doomshead
    @doomshead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I just bought the ipad 9th gen and I'm loving it... Thanks for the validation of my purchase ❤️

  • @descendency
    @descendency 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Mac Mini M1 may be one of the best Price/Performance devices ever. It's a great device. It's shockingly fast compared to other devices in the same class/price.

  • @권율-m9c
    @권율-m9c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Apple products' longevity is just insane. I bought my iphone 7 when it first launched (maybe 2016?) and it still works really great!

  • @muneerfaizal7997
    @muneerfaizal7997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im an android user for life, a week ago I purchased the base variant of the cheapest iPad 9, i paid $390 that’s around ₹29500 with the student discount for the 64 go variant because you pay more than a quarter of its price for government tax in India & its a fact that India is a poor country most people don’t have the purchasing power to buy apple devices. Even if you have the money you should be ready to pay the extra tax. But even though I paid more than I should for a basic tablet I think its worth it because it performs much better than any android tablet in this price range, its performance can be compared to flagship devices from other brands, the only 2 things I’m missing is a USB C connector and the limitations of iPad OS Software
    Either way I’m happy with my iPad 9

  • @andrewr1355
    @andrewr1355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Love the video Jonathan. I loved my iPhone SE that I used a s a secondary/work line. Perfect for the pocket. When my 11 Pro finally kicks I’m going to get an SE. I’m also a fan of buying older Apple tech as cheaply as possible and keeping it for a year or two. Just bought a 2015 27” iMac for less than $150 US. It’s still good hardware for the next couple of years…

  • @handsomestrangr
    @handsomestrangr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I bought the 2020 iPhone SE the day it was released due to the deal at Walmart for 200 bucks off. However, the surprising part was that somehow Walmart lost my purchase plan that was supposed to be setup with Verizon. So when I went to pay off the phone Verizon said it had already been fully paid for. So basically I got the phone for 40 bucks out of pocket. Not sure how it happened but it will probably go down in my history as the best value proposition I have ever gotten. lol

  • @GiftedGuppy
    @GiftedGuppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:13 I freaked out thinking my AirPods stopped working, lol

  • @jonathonrosalia9345
    @jonathonrosalia9345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Been running the se for almost 2 years now it was a replacement for my old 6s+ the size difference was the only thing that was a issue to me and took some getting used to and for Black Friday this year I picked up a base model MacBook Air for $860 usd which to me slays most PCs and even at home I don’t use my ryzen desktop near as much as when I was daily driving my hp ultrabook now it’s just for large projects and storage.

    • @mo3r99
      @mo3r99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do you know what punctuation is?

    • @jonathonrosalia9345
      @jonathonrosalia9345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mo3r99 nope and couldn’t care what is this 1890 and we are doing long form journalism 😂

    • @beefmaster7
      @beefmaster7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I went from a 6s+ to the 2020 SE. t
      The screen shrinkage is real. Because of that, one issue I’ve found is mistyping more often on the SE due to a smaller keyboard than I’m used to.

    • @fryball1443
      @fryball1443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i am the same way about the MacBook air and my custom ryzen desktop. Also I went from the gen 1 SE to the 2020 version as soon as it came out so I was relieved to have a phone that didn't have like a 4 inch screen. i honestly hope the new SE will have edge to edge display but with touchID similar to the newer iPad air and mini

    • @jonathonrosalia9345
      @jonathonrosalia9345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beefmaster7 I have had the same issue and would like to see a se+ with touch kinda like the old 6-8 iPhones had the plus size I loved my old 6s+ as a daily driver phone it was a tablet replacement for me

  • @aayush_dutt
    @aayush_dutt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I own the iPhone SE 2 and the base model iPad. The iPad has been amazing and so has been the SE. The single complaint I keep having with the iPhone all the time is its low battery capacity.

    • @jockeyjeon9532
      @jockeyjeon9532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SE2 owner here. My previous device was an Android with a 4,100mAh battery (SE has 1,821 mAh in comparison). So, I deleted the TH-cam app and now my screen time averages 1~2 hours per week lol So my point is... Thanks, Apple for...fixing my addiction...?
      Who am I kidding.
      Just buy a power bank.
      Me, probably never. Too cheap
      I mean goddam why would you think I bought the SE from the first place?

    • @daleth50
      @daleth50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jockeyjeon9532 actually I bought an SE to reduce my screen time and it worked, the small battery forces me to not use the phone

    • @jockeyjeon9532
      @jockeyjeon9532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daleth50 I also imagine this is sort of the lifestyle of EV users. Planning their trip ahead and charge their cars accordingly. For example whenever I leave town I make sure to fully charge my SE instead of keeping the healthy 80-50% rule.

  • @KaiusKing
    @KaiusKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate these types of videos! With the average consumer in mind

  • @abealc88
    @abealc88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a great video! Good to have some one explain why it’s not always in one’s best interest to buy the flagship

  • @AmeanAbdelfattah
    @AmeanAbdelfattah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LMG should have a dedicated Android channel. As a consumer I am constantly asking the same questions on both platforms. Ecosystem, when to buy, what to buy, which can do better at what for whom?

  • @dariusandreiminca9703
    @dariusandreiminca9703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who has been dealing with an se for over a year now, I've really made it feel like home, sure the screen is a little small and the battery kinda sucks, but for what it is it feels amazing to use.

  • @megafox134
    @megafox134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I literally bought an iPad using that logic just yesterday.

  • @NoChillMan
    @NoChillMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bought the base iPad a few months ago to kinda test how I'd like the Apple ecosystem, coming from Android (also my first time buying a tablet) and I absolutely love it. It does basically everything I want it to at a reasonable price. If you're willing to put another ~$130 into it, the Logitech Combo Touch case is a good addition. The keyboard is better than Apple's Smart Keyboard imo and the trackpad is a nice bonus. I don't think the iPad screen's air gap is really noticeable, but I can see how it might be an issue if you plan on drawing with an apple pencil or something.
    I think my only complaint would be the bottom-firing speakers, but after getting the airpod pros on sale it's really not an issue if I'm just watching youtube by myself, and connecting to a bluetooth speaker to get better sound if I have other people watching with me isn't a big deal either.
    I would highly recommend saving A bit of money and just getting the base iPad unless you REALLY need some of the features of the higher end models. It really is a good product for $330.

    • @user-ju7ui6is1j
      @user-ju7ui6is1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @gabeinchile2039
    @gabeinchile2039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought an 8th gen 32gb iPad for college 2 years ago and I think it has been the best investment of my school life. The storage doesn’t really bother me because we used Google Drive for everything and student accounts had unlimited space, barely needed to download anything ever. I bought a Bluetooth keyboard for the device a couple of weeks ago and I think I will get at least two or even three more years of use out of it now using it for taking notes and writing.

  • @brianzhamilton
    @brianzhamilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You say that the lightning port is the biggest drawback to the cheapest iPad, BUT that actually means your phone and tablet can share the same charger!

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's still stupid by Apple; it doesn't even supply enough power for certain accessories and transferring files is sooooo slow...

    • @brianzhamilton
      @brianzhamilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cameronbosch1213, granted. But when we're talking about the benefits of buying the cheapest Apple products, it does have some benefits.

  • @gabsttz3236
    @gabsttz3236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the iPad 9th gen with 64gb of storage, and it is AMAZING i love it! I would recommend it for students or to everyone that needs a cheap Tablet with great power and a decent amount of storage

    • @jvde96art67
      @jvde96art67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it runs even heavy games sooo well, I have the 256gb , and my old old iPad I don’t know what model still works too after 7 years maybe

  • @chrislight8922
    @chrislight8922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel and Jonathan are such a breath of fresh air

  • @vincepopo7497
    @vincepopo7497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like to keep my phones for a long time, so upgrading the storage has been key, after almost 4 years I’m still super happy with my XR, and because I upped the storage I haven’t reached the point where my apps are taking up all the space and I have to juggle them like I have had to do in the past with past phones, and although the xr wasn’t the absolute bottom of the lineup (I think), it certainly was closer to that

  • @Shadowlegend25
    @Shadowlegend25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like your channel…. Your approach on what videos to make is fantastic. You are critically asking the question that the consumer is really asking… not just straight comparison videos but deeper questions that we discover after a few weeks/ months of using our products. I am subscribing right now!

  • @yaygya
    @yaygya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel you with the iPad 3 purchase. That being said, that thing still has most of its battery capacity nearly 10 years in.

  • @b3ans4eva
    @b3ans4eva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Managed to get a good deal on an 8gen iPad because it was close to announcement time & the store wanted to retire its current stock. It’s a huge jump from a second generation iPad mini.

  • @theoldtechhandheldtinkerer4092
    @theoldtechhandheldtinkerer4092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:07 I had to deal with apple devices with only 8 and 16 GB, in Fact I think I had an 8GB iphone 3G, a 16GB, or maybe 32GB ipod Touch 4th Gen, an iPhone 5G with 32GB, a iPhone SE (1st Gen) with 64GB and now without having had a 126GB device I jumped to 256GB with the iphone 7 Plus and the 2020 iPad Pro 11", and I do happen to carry both at all times so I have an accumulated 512GB, that is if I'm not carrying my 4TB external HDD, which I can actually connect to the iPad!!. (thanks to the USB-C port, kinda was the main reason I went with the Pro.

  • @Marchelo1988
    @Marchelo1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The M1 Mac Mini is absolutely incredible. I've been using it for eight months now and it is just fantastic. I can edit 4k videos or just surf the net seamlessly. Stream music, work, have 10 tabs opened, and everything just works perfect. This is something I'm already taking for granted and I never had it before on Windows. Not even in brand new machines, I believe.

  • @Marngel
    @Marngel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There are some things I'm willing to cheap out on. The iPad, Apple Watch, and AirPods are the ones I'm willing to not get the flagship models. However, the Mac and the iPhone are the ones where I wouldn't cheap out on because those are the two most important parts of the puzzle.

    • @darkdayzero
      @darkdayzero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me, the MBA m1 is more than enough. On the iPhone though, I agree, the se 2020 is not enough. I switched to a 12 mini pretty soon.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darkdayzero . Why is SE iPhone not any good?

    • @lifeisshørt_420
      @lifeisshørt_420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertt9342 battery sucks on it, for $400 it’s not that good value. Now if you get it elsewhere for cheaper then yes it’s a much better deal

    • @lifeisshørt_420
      @lifeisshørt_420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me I personally would cheap out on everything except for AirPods. Here’s would i would do-
      iPhone 11
      M1 MacBook Air
      iPad 9th gen
      Apple Watch SE
      AirPods pro 2 (assuming it has better battery life than AirPods pro 1 and AirPods 3 but if not then I’ll choose AirPods 3)

    • @darkdayzero
      @darkdayzero 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertt9342 I didn’t say it’s not any good, I said it is not enough. The battery life is abysmal, the camera is not good enough (no night mode), small screen with big bezels. On the plus side, it is compact and has Touch ID. I got the iPhone 12 mini which fixes every problem I had with the se, but I do miss Touch ID.

  • @peteroselador6132
    @peteroselador6132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first mac was the base model mid-2009 white MacBook, which I bought the DAY before the late-2009 unibody version was announced. Worked like a charm for over half a decade, and I can still use it for some light tasks almost thirteen years later.

  • @daviddruce7787
    @daviddruce7787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agree! actually had to go check what gen was my iPad & its a 6/128Gb.Always on the go with my logi crayon everyday, never ever disappoints.

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      @user-ju7ui6is1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @priultimus
    @priultimus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, I did this but with some slight adjustments. Instead of getting the iPad, I got AirPods Pro. Frankly, as someone who doesn't need a laptop, having a Mac mini at home and my iPhone when I'm out works great. The money I could've spent on the iPad I spent on the AirPods Pro and I think I derive more value from these with their noise cancellation than I would get from an iPad. It just seems more useful to me. Great video though, I love the analysis!

  • @RadagastIRL
    @RadagastIRL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was starting to wonder when we'd get another video from you Jonathan. Glad you're back, great video. Do you guys have plans to do your own in-depth review of the M1 Pro and M1 Max MacBook Pros? Not that I didn't enjoy LTT's review of it but I'd love to get your take on it from a less "can it run games as well as a PC" point of view, maybe see what it can do as the daily driver for a content creator with a heavy video and photo editing workflow, or maybe even from a software developer standpoint.

  • @rud
    @rud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The TLDR version: I am now buying smaller hard drive capacity for my i devices and use my 2 TB iCloud for sync.
    The long version: Granted, on the cheapest MacBook Air, I got 500gb but I use external USB for FCPX editing. my newly ordered iPhone 13 will only be 256GB, compared to the 512GB iPhone 11, I don't feel the extra space has great resale value. Just before 2019, I was in ICU for 1 week and a half, and I gave a friend my CC and asked them to buy me the cheapest iPad so I was entertained while tied up to tubes and probed everywhere. The 32GB is a bit of a problem today and OS updates sometimes fail. I had to disable the feature to uninstall not often used apps because it seems to favor things in my fotos lib. so apps I use once pr month, where always uninstalled.
    But since I needed a 2TB iCloud account anyway, the strategy of choosing smaller capacity devices works well for me.

  • @Maldroth
    @Maldroth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've only ever been burned buying their first generation of something. The revision always seems to be much better, after that they are smaller changes.

  • @mordecaiepsilon
    @mordecaiepsilon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think you'll feature more legacy Apple products and last generation Apple products? I think it would be interesting to see how useful and capable they are now and how supported by Apple they are.

  • @arjungandhi1242
    @arjungandhi1242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a base iPad back in 2017. Still works great! May upgrade when the next round of iPad updates come around as it’s a bit slower these days. Especially when compared to my 13 mini

  • @arneyyy
    @arneyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    easily the best mac related channel on youtube

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  • @zergadis0
    @zergadis0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree about iPad - currently a basic one is literally the best value you can get from any tablet on the market, but I wouldn't really recommend anyone to buy iPhone SE - its battery is just terrible, don't expect it to survive a full day even with quite moderate usage.

    • @simonkraemer3725
      @simonkraemer3725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have a power bank at hand. with that it’s a great phone

  • @HenrikoMagnifico
    @HenrikoMagnifico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't believe you still can't zip and unzip files natively on iPadOS...

  • @RusiruNawela
    @RusiruNawela 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving these Apple ecosystem type of videos. Hope you can make more like this one. Keep it up!❤

  • @chedoodles
    @chedoodles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I've been indecisive about the Ipad 9 vs. Ipad Mini 6 and this video helped me to decide which I will like best. Thank you

  • @TacWarCrim_YT
    @TacWarCrim_YT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im using a iPad 9th generation and it works good

  • @22oreos
    @22oreos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! I'm liking the consumer-oriented vibe of this channel.
    I don't get your point at 5:56 though. Isn't that what happened with both iPhone SEs? Upgraded internals with the old body?

    • @TheEpicUser
      @TheEpicUser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It means it has a fast processor but an old look

    • @TheEpicUser
      @TheEpicUser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      6:13

  • @felipeozalmeida
    @felipeozalmeida 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked the focus on value and budget in this video. Great content!

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny enough, my parents actually got my little brother & I the Apple Watch SE for Christmas last year. Coming off the Series 0, it’s a huge upgrade.

    • @macaddress
      @macaddress  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you both using Family Setup?

    • @Neoxon619
      @Neoxon619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macaddress I don’t think so, which is weird considering that everyone in my family has an Apple Watch of some kind. Mom & Dad have a Series 4, my older sister has a Series 6 (after our dog chewed up her Series 4), and obviously my little bro & I have the SE.

  • @aletskun3877
    @aletskun3877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got a 2013 MacBook Air with a 128 gb ssd a few weeks before I entered college. I wnet through a lot of Photoshop, Illustrator, Maya, 3DsMax and a crap ton of digital illustration. It still works quite fine. The battery life is not as good anymore, but everything else works perfectly. So, my point is, just take care of your devices and they'll end up being worth of your investment

  • @blzt3206
    @blzt3206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You’re a great presenter and a valuable addition to LMG

  • @adamw.3409
    @adamw.3409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:23 the consumer models of Mac mini 2010 had a dvd-slot.. the only version without the hole was the server one...

  • @joao9656
    @joao9656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for me, the ipad 9 and the iphone xr are the best options and the ones I have. no regrets on these purchases. also, I live in a dangerous area if I get robbed it won’t hurt my pocket as much as having an iphone 13 lost

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  • @ajfromca
    @ajfromca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use the iPad 8 / 128gb / cellular. It is more than enough for me, and with the limitations of iPadOS I see absolutely no reason to upgrade.

  • @8aravindk
    @8aravindk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love a series where you buy the cheapest kit for a 5 year life cycle for example and we can periodically check in how it's holding up.
    For example, as per this video, if we buy the cheapest gear apple sold today, total cost and value and projected longevity (8GB RAM not enough 3/4 years later on base Mini and Air, 64 Storage running out on SE And iPad)
    VS
    A likely future proof build, 16GB RAM on the Air/Mini, 128GB storage on iPad/Iphone SE, total cost and projected longevity.
    That would be an interesting video to watch

  • @sieste
    @sieste 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought the Mac Mini M1 being kinda scared it would be a waste of money. I was very wrong it really rocks

  • @juli12345istRecorsi
    @juli12345istRecorsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:17 iPhones having the best screen technology? What?

    • @aymansoufan3617
      @aymansoufan3617 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They do have OLED panels.

  • @typhoon_8086
    @typhoon_8086 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the Base Model Ipad 9th Gen and it's the best value product I've bought. It's fast and the OS is Smooth and Fluid, definitely enough to get me through taking notes and doing writing assignments in College

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the new Mini with base storage and I'm in love. Grabbed a refurbed iPhone 8 and that's doing pretty well as a secondary phone

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  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the iPad 8 that is almost identical to iPad 9, and I bought it on purpose. It does everything I need (mostly painting & drawing), it's cheap, and *it has 3.5mm jack* . Same for the iPhone. I plan to buy a SE when my current iPhone dies. I can't understand what is all that "outdated look" about...

    • @Summer-xu8qu
      @Summer-xu8qu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The major concern of SE for me is screen size (which some might like) and battery life.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Summer-xu8qu Oh, I _love_ small screens, so that's a perk for me. I don't know what to say about battery life, I never had a problem with Apple. For reference, I used SE, 5s and 8 plus.

  • @AlnisSmidchens
    @AlnisSmidchens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was burned by buying an iPod touch 4th gen. Since I was in 4th or 5th grade or so, it took a lot of saving up to buy it. Lo and behold, the new iPod touch comes out, and pretty soon mine is a slow mess and apps stop supporting it. Great looking hardware, but man did it become obnoxious to use. I then switched to Windows phone and found the experience much nicer :) However nowadays I'm using a Nokia 6.1 Android, and I'll probably upgrade to a Google Pixel (or Fairphone 4 if it gets a US release) sometime in the next year.

  • @harrytsang1501
    @harrytsang1501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going second hand, a locked red iPhone SE 2 is less than $200.
    The base iPad is too expensive second hand but you can look for the Air 3 or Pro for a similar price

  • @RowanWolf22
    @RowanWolf22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new IPad you mentioned is SO good. I got it a month ago and let me tell you 🥺 it’s so much nicer than iPad Air and unless you’re a pro, you really don’t need the pro one!
    I’ve been doing art, video calls, watching, so many applications 😭 it’s a genuine joy to use!!! And SO MUCH CHEAPER

  • @the_wiki9408
    @the_wiki9408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the M1 Air is a better buy for most than the M1 Mini given it is portable, and you don't have to buy keyboard/mouse/monitor/desk/chair for it. If you are low on space or room you can use it at the kitchen table. Plus just being portable adds a lot of value, for almost no performance loss.
    I tend to favor the XR over the SE2020 for similar price. It has a bigger screen, better battery, faceID. Performance is close enough that you will only notice in benchmarks (A12 vs 13). It just feels and looks more like a modern iPhone, where the SE feels like an upgraded iPhone 6.

  • @simonkraemer3725
    @simonkraemer3725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing you didn’t mentioned and was one tipping point to the iPad Air (besides storage that used to be way to to slow with 32gb) was the support for the Apple pencil 2. It is noticeable better and i would get mad with charging the first generation. but if you need a tablet, not a semi-full PC replacement, the iPad is just for you.

  • @sagarkapasi099
    @sagarkapasi099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rocking Macbook Pro Mid 2012 Non Retina. More Than Enough for Web Development and Android App Dev with an SSD & 4GB Ram. Only Replaced Broken Keyboard for $25 bought second hand for about $300 in 2019.

  • @Ender275
    @Ender275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only time i can think of people getting burned by the base model apple products were back when the iPhone 5C released. I knew 4 people who had them in the apple bumper cases that dropped them and had the screen spider web crack. I had a college friend who still had one in 2016 until the phone decided to vibrate for no reason then the phone wouldn’t read a SIM card. Not too long after the phone died altogether.

  • @IgorEngelen1974
    @IgorEngelen1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I so agree. You don't always need the most expensive device. My Mac mini M1 is great for teleworking and the previous generation iPad mini is ideal for reading.

  • @matthewyeomans7106
    @matthewyeomans7106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can some one point me towards those color bleed in water looking videos from the 0:15 mark? Looks amazing, want to test out some of my displays

  • @jerrymoreno1714
    @jerrymoreno1714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great vid! Great way to illustrate the value in these entry-level products!

  • @acewayx
    @acewayx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im with my iPhone se 2020 for 3 years now , 3 more left .

  • @T_t418
    @T_t418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought ipad mini 5 (256gb wifi only) right before the new ipad mini came out.
    still not as much regret after that 6th generation thing came out.
    my ipad mini custom made with a particular engraving had decided to quit working on me on the very last month of its warranty so i brought it to the apple care center and they got me a new ipad mini in just 4 days
    yeah, the mac mini is a fair choice.

  • @zachcharbonneau
    @zachcharbonneau 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 2005 Macbook for $25 and it still works. if you want cheap, go to your nearest yard or garage sale.

  • @Zer0C00L
    @Zer0C00L 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's some sweet stock music. I could listen to those fm bells for days.

  • @DaemonViews
    @DaemonViews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second handed higher end stuff has been my go to for a decade.

  • @jackblackwhole
    @jackblackwhole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still rocking the 6th gen ipad 128 gb. I just love the finger print sensor and I can consume most media on the device with great resolution. I would say Cheap ipad is the best ipad, but only if it is not your everything device.

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  • @wismos
    @wismos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mac Address : "the Mac mini is one of the few Mac's that have usb a support"
    Me : using an PS2 keyboard

  • @MagierMax
    @MagierMax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:00 i died inside when i saw the 100$ iphone

  • @fracturedmind8124
    @fracturedmind8124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my mom an iPhone SE to replace her tired old iPhone 6. She loves it. She doesn’t need all the latest features. She just wants to call text and take decent pictures, and she doesn’t want to give up the home button.

    • @HenrikoMagnifico
      @HenrikoMagnifico 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Mom also missed the home button when I gave her an iPhone 12, but after learning the gestures and the benefits of Face ID she loves it and says she can't imagine going back to a home button

    • @fracturedmind8124
      @fracturedmind8124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HenrikoMagnifico I let her use my iPhone Xs after I upgraded to see how she liked it before I bought her the SE, because if she liked it I was just gonna let her keep it since it was still in good shape. She didn’t like it. The FaceID she didn’t mind but she hated the gestures.

  • @ericpirotta-k4p
    @ericpirotta-k4p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I managed to get a brand NEW macbook air M2 for 1.049€ (on apple store it sells for 1.300€) and im LOVING it, very good for my university and also for coding

  • @deepfried1234
    @deepfried1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i bought the new base model iPad student discounter at $300, best deal in tech ever imo. This thing is a computer. iPadOS is getting better ever year and although it’s not perfect, I’ve switched from using windows laptops to just having this pretty much. Works swimmingly with my iPhone, it has a lot of accessories, and I LOVE the Apple Pencil. The laminated display is there, but as some random human, I really don’t care because it still feels good and responsive. they nailed it imo

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  • @amillusion1
    @amillusion1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a series 3 Apple Watch in 2020 I didn’t feel burned at all. The resale value never dropped so when I upgraded to series 5 I got most of my money back selling it on OfferUp. I upgrade to the newest budget iPad every year by trading in last year’s model (went from 7-8-9th gen). Same deal iPads trade in value always stay high so I upgrade for $100 every year.

  • @sadjesse
    @sadjesse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently bought a iPhone SE (2020) refurbished, it remplaces my worn-out iPhone 8 and I get to still use my old case. I also have a Apple Watch SE :)

  • @battman505
    @battman505 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you made this vid everyone says apple are overpriced for most people, and while in the past that may have been valid nowadays they offer great budget devices for money conscious among us.

  • @lukefuller284
    @lukefuller284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:07 I will note that my Series 3 watch (purchased December 2019) showed only 4 GB of capacity, not 8. Suffice to say I stopped updating it.

  • @charliecarrot
    @charliecarrot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a refurbished Mac Mini M1 for less than $600 and it's the most powerful computer I've ever owned. It's my only Apple device (besides a Magic Trackpad, highly recommend) and I'm falling in love with macOS. Logic Pro runs like a dream, while my 2015 Dell XPS has so much trouble with Reaper.
    There are a number of things that frustrate me since I'm used to Windows. Snapping windows to the sides seems like it should be simple. Window management in general is pretty different. The way Finder seems to obfuscate the file directory (especially at first, coming from Windows Explorer). But pretty much everything I want to do has a reasonable way to get done in macOS. I like the idea of having to learn new things and change up my workflow. And it's just a joy to use in so many ways compared to Windows. Sure, I have to learn a different style of window management, but it's not bad just because it's different.

  • @Diogo-mi9tm
    @Diogo-mi9tm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:01 i have had a ipad 6th gen for 4 years and i NEVER notice that

  • @joeycantalini7597
    @joeycantalini7597 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an awesome quality video! Also very helpful!

  • @pewdiefanno19
    @pewdiefanno19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im not an Apple user [but i have 2 iPods tho], i dont own an iPhone, iPad, nor a Mac, but i still love watching the vids of this channel

  • @newecreator
    @newecreator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here I am still rocking this iPhone SE 2nd Gen!

  • @dr.suyashgandhi2903
    @dr.suyashgandhi2903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    iPad Air 3
    6 months before though so not that burned but it was kinda sad seeing how iPad Air 2 was not updated for 5 years but air 3 got replaced 1 yr later
    Still works perfectly setting aside 3 gig ram which I need more sometimes for eg telegram will download file in ram instead of directly to storage [u have to move it once it’s completely downloaded ] which fills it up and then app crashes hard and I have to uninstall the whole app

  • @Ernels06
    @Ernels06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought iPad 9 early december to replace my netbook because it’s dead, for my usage which mainly for multimedia and basic office it’s amazing
    Very happy with my decision even though i need to adapt to lot of things because it’s my first Apple device

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  • @sammydepresso
    @sammydepresso 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a useful video about apple products.