COMPARED TO MY AFRICA LANDCRUISER, IS THE RANGE ROVER ALL I'D HOPED IT WOULD BE? part-9 | 4xOverland
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- Insight and honesty about buying this very old car. And I compare it with the Land Cruiser I bought blind in South Africa in 2019. Part-9 of this series. The world's first and leading global 4WD adventure motoring channels.
The title of this video is "IS THE RANGE ROVER ALL I'D HOPED IT WOULD BE COMPARED TO MY LAND CRUISER IN AFRICA? | 4xOverland"
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We owned a '77 RR classic for 11 years, it had done just over 380,000 klm when we bought it from a friend, by the time we'd finished with it it had 900,000 klm plus a bit, one engine rebuild at 600,000 was the only major expense. A great car that took our family all over Australia, both our kids learnt to drive in it, wish we still had it, it'd go past everything except a petrol station.
At last, someone who has actually owned one (as opposed to all the dreamers and idiots who haven't) and tells it how it is. These cars are superb but like with most 'status symbols' they fall into the hands of people with zero status and no money with which to maintain them. Great to hear your experience.
@@stringer-ik1pc not to mention the smile it put on my face every time I drove it.
The Land Rover bug is real.
I sold my 1994 Defender 10 years ago to buy a 2006 Hilux and I still catch myself looking at them. 🙈
💯% real! We always carry on our love affairs with those previous trucks,, weather they were reliable or not.
I loved my 77 FJ40,, my 91 RR Classic.
Would I have another 🤔??
Likely not...🤷♂️.
Other fish to fry as the saying goes.
But I can also gawk 😲 and reminisce 🥰.
Cheers 🍻, G.
I have a lot of respect for toyota, but always gravitate to Land rover Defender and Classic Range Rover when I see one in a car park! They have a simplistic beauty!
I’m the same I’ve owned Land/Range Rovers for forty years and now drive a Hilux I still look at defenders out on the road and think poor sod ! 😜🇬🇧
Old trucks are fun! Taking my 95 Jeep YJ on a quick excursion this weekend. It smells, it’s uncomfortable, and it’s loud, but driving it is pure joy. I’m riding shotgun with you in spirit!
I don't use Brylcreem or pomade on my hair...I drive a Range Rover and use gear oil.
YES its ALL You Expected. Its British and you are a Brit, its a classic, its very good, its survived all these years .................Its LOVED !
Lol imagine buying a land cruiser in south africa and then finding out it was a 2wd XD
So the philosophical question is: restoration or preservation? (there might be shades in between). I'm a preservation advocate. Patina counts. Use and maintain according to usage as things have more value if they are used. The 3 dr Classic is an elegant vehicle that should be seen on the road, not in a museum.
Another professional interesting show.
For hard core remote work a well maintained older 4wd is often easier to manage. They're simpler and can usually be fixed on the trail. They're excellent teachers because you generally DIY ... the alternative is draining your bank account if you pay someone.
I do all maintenance and repairs on my ten year old D40 Navara. When I'm in the desert at least I know the vehicle ... it's one piece of the puzzle to help manage the risks.
Andrew, you are a great filmmaker! Watching your videos is always a joy! 😊
In your case Andrew, Range Rover seems to be like a romance from your youth, a love to which you think back your whole life, reliving it from time to time. However, this is just an exhilaration, nothing more, because a lifelong relationship is wise to build with someone you can 100% rely on. T.ex. with Land Cruiser J70s series and you know it very very well. :)
First thing i did on my 84 Range rover was to replace all the vacuum lines, a number of niggling issues disappeared. This vehicle depends on good vacuum lines.
Every time I look at your Chanel it’s grown a few thousand subs ..... 👍🏿
It's reality that these Landys are getting old and rare, and there's not many 70s British cars around that could ever survived nearly 50 years of use. The only ones left will be the ones that prior owners looked after and not abused.
Andrew I love the opening to this restoration series so much. It's lovely.
Love all your content! Keep up the great work.
It was a sad day when the Cruiser had to go because of the circumstances caused by COVID, but I am looking forward to see what is going to happen to the Range Rover.
Saw Lekker green one on the N1 highway just past Ysterplaat base yesterday. Had a good chuckle, driver in fast lane with window down. Somehow hitting almost 100kph. Massive grin on his face.
Man I need to rewatch the 105 series build.
Still sad to see that it had to go. But I believe she got a nice new home.
I've seen the car a couple of times and I think terrain tamer owns it. (From what I saw on their facebook page).
I have also see a white 105 series Land Cruiser that looked very similar to Andrew's old one.
It had a yellow ZA sticker on the bottom right had side of the rear window. If I remember correctly.
Vehicles where spotted in the Western Cape, South Africa.
So glad you are satisfied with your purchase! Unless you've loved a car, you just can't understand.
Well done for following through with your dream 👌
Shame you had to sell your land cruiser but it seems like you struck gold with this old girl!
Andrew ............Please restore it to perfection. Modernise it for your purpose. Its an equivalent to a Rolex Sub 16610.
i love your work very interesting to watch and excellent editing
Love this series
I’d love to hear more about your (likely incredibly short-lived) relationship with the late-production Range Rover Classic-hadn’t a clue you’d owned one of those, too!
Watch the video. It explains why it was short-lived.
4XO. Be thankful for what you've got ! This 45 year old truck probably covered +180,000km's in it's life due to vintage ? Glad "Daddy Dave" and 'Sir Ian' from the three stouges were able to supply all the original and aftermarket spare parts. V.
sounds like you have given it some thought , keep it as a Resto collecter with club rego and build the new troopy as a Daily driver 👍😁
Watching this now after the release of "friends cross the canning" ,I can't help but laugh at Andrew saying he will not be driving the car into remote parts of Australia.
I know, hey!
I think this old Range Rover ticks many boxes for you.
You are primarily an inveterate tinkerer and I’d imagine the list on that old girl is long. Coupled with your passion for driving on and off road which is then woven into your youthful recollections of adventure in a similar vehicle in the days gone past in a land far away with a young wife and friends. I believe this is the vehicle that we should all have to keep the juices flowing...........
I watch the ads in spite of what you said about them. I like your videos mate.
Had one the same , but had overdrive box as well 8 speed , plus the normal low and high range, was a weapon.
I know have a 03 range rover, love it too.
If not a secret, from which platform do you get music?
I really like this one Continent - The Journey
Blasphemy! Who converts a Troopy to 2WD? Great vid as always!
A stupid person? BTW. Not a Troopy. A Land Cruiser 105 4,2 diesel GLX with full-time 4WD..
Watched this after the Canning Stock series. 17:33 Andrew:"I'm not going to dive a 45 year old vehicle into remote outback Australia"
Yes. I did say that.
big fan from iceland, build an jimny overlander with trailer
Awesome! Wish we could get the jimny in the US
I've looked closely at the Jimny and taken it for 4 test drives, 1 one a good bush track and bloody hell it's a good car. You would need a small trailer to make it any good for overlanding.
I'm doing the numbers and things are looking like it might be the best value 4x4 in Aust, the only drawback is you need a trailer and they can be almost as much as the Jimny to but or build.
@@ookeekthelibrarian very interesting idea .. would love to see that ..
@@marvinshi I would be doing myself but I'm waiting on a spinal opp so could be a couple of years before I'm ready to play with the tools.
@@ookeekthelibrarian I wish you all the best with the operation and a equally speedy recovery so you can get back out here and follow your hearts desires
That has to be the best looking 4x4 ever, Take her out to the remote outback please, she won't let you down...probably!
You are still an African man and i like the fact that you will always go back to Africa, lovely continent
hoping someday you will visit kenya .. I think the travel adventure and everything in between would be EPIC .. the fusion of your narration .. your cinematography and your personal perspective on the kenyan experience would make for some awesome content perhaps you ought to consider the idea
currently the WRC is in kenya and the stories from the ground are most entertaining to say the least
@@marvinshi true,am Kenyan
@@TheTamashek nice to meet you my brother .. ts always great meeting someone from home
@@marvinshi you welcome
I live in south america, with a 2010 FJ cruiser, and overland in the Patagonia of Chile and Argentina. My pick will always be Toyota, simply because of Parts. Although the FJ cruiser is relatively rare, most the parts are compatible with Hilux, Tacoma, landcruiser, lexus, etc of similar years, plus or minus about 10 years. In remote locations, good chance I could find something that fits something in a pinch locally. Luckily, never needed a part so far; so I guess that is all hypothetical. 😋
Sometimes you have to buy blind. Lot's of people won't take the risk so you can pick up a bargain.
I once bid £1000 for a 70 series Prado. I flew to Scotland to pick it up. Lots of little faults that were exactly as described.
I went over the whole vehicle after a two day drive to get it home. Mainly the problems where caused by un-skilled people working on it.
How did it turn out?
Nine years later it is parked on my drive worth £3000 or £4000. Starts everyday and I would never part with it.
I did the same with my g wagon. £1600 blind buy, went to England to collect it and came with over £2k worth of spares which I sold. Not perfect but the most reliable car I've owned. Value now is unbelievable!
@@1982dsc Great vehicle the G wagon. The old ones are like the old 70 series, a vehicle that anyone can maintain.
I did think about a G wagon, but like you said the prices are just unbelievable, you got a bargain.
Well Andrew, that V8 is sounding as sweet as a Nut!
I've had 2 like yours but the best one 1980 also had the use of an Overdrive and that was an excellent tourer dogs body what have you! I wish I still had one but here in the UK they are very expensive now.
While these videos of you, sharing your experience picking up your RR have been good, what I'm really looking forward to, is your next Troopy build. Any update on that?
Arrival mid July confirmed.
Conditions you describe are a lot like what we face buying old, unrestored vehicles in Arizona. Bodies are generally good, there's minimal deep rust, but interiors and paint see a lot of wear.
I've found a good way of guesstimating how many times a vehicle odometer has rolled is to examine the condition of the pedals. The more miles, the deeper the wear. The body and interior degredation will happen regardless of mileage if left outside uncovered, but the pedal wear doesn't change much by weathering.
Another point too though, just because a vehicle is low miles, if it's old it could still suffer some mechanical issues. My '95 Chevrolet Impala SS had 6,400 miles on it ten years ago when I bought it. I'm up to around 40,500 miles now. I've had to deal with valve cover gasket failures causing oil leaks, HVAC system failure to the point that I had to replace the AC compressor and the rest of the system, and problems with sensors for both coolant level and oil level act-up intermittently. That car has been garaged its whole life, never left outside overnight except on the occasional road trip.
so all in all, even if this Range Rover has had its odometer wrap once or twice, it still seems like it's in reasonable shape and and a lower-mileage example might not be much better off anyway.
Yes, the pedals are a good way to spot the mileage. Don’t forget the gear shifter as another spot that usually tells you the mileage.
Yes. Its quite smooth.
I was wondering what happened to the Land Cruiser, I liked that build. I’m sure something interesting will turn out in the future
Great work ASPW, but why get a 105 back in 2019, if you knew very well an 80 Series would be cheaper to buy and fix and 2x as tough as a 105? I suppose I feel about the 80 as you do about the old rangie. Keep up the good work mate.
Jeez Paul Marsh is a genius
If John Rooth drives an old truck around Oz, I'm sure you can 👍🏻😁
But that's a cruisa he totally rebuilt
@@mark2073 I mean the original Milo. 👍🏻
I bought a 30 years old Dodge 4x4 from the Swiss fire department with only 30.000 kilometers (original)! Sleeping inside the garage all time, really like new, no rust, nothing..........
I'd say with a few upgrades the Range Rover will be nice vehicle to cruise with like a quieter exhaust power steering maybe AC
That was all great but the FJ40 always does it better hands down everytime.
Great episode. What car would you build in Europe?
its a year older than me and almost as good looking!
You may not truly appreciate a vehicle like this until you brake down in the middle of nowhere and can fix it yourself.
I have my 1994 80 series that has been with me since 1998. That is, the chassis because I changed the body in 2009.
Since I live in Pakistan, we get smuggled cars near the Af-Pak border and we change the body keeping the chassis original. Becoming legal.
I think it’s about time to do the same again. It stays outside of the garage because of my two other vehicles and the paint and plastics have deteriorated. Let’s see how it goes.
Spotted the 'Garden Grove' truck at 2:15!
When it comes out you should try to test out the new Ford Bronco in the states. (kind of stupid that ford isn't selling them elsewhere) It will probably be the united states' best overland vehicle
Factory stock offroad yes, probably. As a overlander it might not be because an overlander also needs loads of space for travel gear, unless you're going it alone. Even then a 4x4 van might be better.
Those pillars look so small I'd think about a rollbar. Dakar versions must have some modifications.
How did all your volunteer assistants feel about you selling the Cruiser?
With millions of TH-cam views and hundreds of phonecalls and new customers due to Andrews video, I don't think they're going to be too worried.
so, the conclusion is this range cruiser is not suitable for audio recording at high-way environment.
I know that you bought the Range Rover because of nostalgic reasons. But I’d prefer that 105 series you built any day of the week.
( sorry if I’ve messed up my sentences English not being my first language ) :)
I bought them for two very different reasons.
@@4xoverland
Right.
Since your love for this Range Rover gen, what about a project to the channel, building a custom one of these, with a Toyota engine swap, like the 3.0 D4-D and an automatic transmission? Bringing reliability, and better fuel consumption, keeping the traditional look of the car.
You had me at gear oil.
Love your content. I had a feeling you got rid of the 105. Maybe buy it back from the new owner one of these days.
Maybe I'll build another Africa 4WD?
Thinking of getting a 1990 RRC need some advice
Andrew, I have hopes of taking my 1984 Classic touring and camping into remote-ish places... am I mad? Apart from the V8 fuel bill, I'm hoping I can make it reliable and easy to fix... Is this possible?
I love you andrew
Hope its more reliable than my 2015 L405. Apparently the injectors were over fuelling and have melted two pistons. Its now essentially an out of warranty write off since it's far too expensive to repair even if I could afford it.
This was the 4.4V8 diesel with 84K miles if anyone is interested.
How does one dislike a video like this?
A troopy in America would be something.
When are you taking delivery of the Troopy mate? Should be a good build
He has a video on that exact question. Just go back a little in his catalogue.
If u didn't buy it blind and saw it in person first u still would have bought it tho or u would have left it , I reckon u got lucky mate she's a gem 4 a landrover or rangerover
The Range Rover or Land Cruiser? With hindsight, I would have bought both of them. Without hindsight, would have bought the Range Rover, but walked away from the Land Cruiser. The Range Rover was in better mechanical condition.
Is the dream tourer sold yet ??
I'm sure you have good indications as to why the mileage could be about 250,000, otherwise my calculations pitch it in at about 425,000
what would you build for Mexico and Latin America if and when you ever decide to visit us
I'd say 375,000 plus. I'm driving a 2011 Subaru Forester with 298,000 km and looks far far better that that. Even accounting for its longer life and pre autocad design, I think this has traversed far further than 275,000.
Speak nicely to the bods at Ineos….maybe you’ll get a test drive of the Grenadier in Africa?
It will be good to see the Rangie cameos, but the Troopy seemed excellent too. Excited to watch this new build. Are you going for comfort or capability? Or some of both with added liteness?
Yes :-)
Build a G-wagon Sir, in one of you vedios you really loved it so why not build one as an overlander
Not available.
what is that background noise while you talk during the drive? it seems like the sound of being sit inthe tail of a MD80 airplane close to the jet engines
Arrr paint work question answered
Is the cabin really that loud underway or is it just the mic picking up everything?
Probably even louder then what we hear in the video
Haha, that's not loud... Compared to an old series with diesel engine! Just needs a bit more sound proofing.
@@gsylass More than once I have seen Series on the UK motorway, as I drive past the driver is wearing ear defenders!
The mic and the edit mix is removing A LOT of background sound.
@@harveysmith100 best "stereo" solution I've seen for a series is a set of bluetooth earmuffs, much cheaper and lighter than sound proofing one.
This Range Rover is a low mileage car, should have close to 900000km if driven an average of 20000km per year, my 10 year old Jeep has more km on it
Did you tell us how much the vehicle was for and how much have you spent so far restoring it. If yes, then I’ve missed it.
I have not and I will not provide the costs. It's not relevant because restoring old cars can cost anything. What I spent would not be a help to anyone.
There's a 1976 3-door Rangie for sale in Melbourne with an asking price of $125,000. You've got to be kidding. Some people have far more money than sense.
@@nuggets.6774 Want to strange prices for cars, do a search for mini moke
and prices will stun any sane person and yet I still want one.
@@nuggets.6774
How much is the new 200 series in Australia?
I think I remember seeing a similar one sell for 90 thousand in auction a while back. Could be this one... absolute rip off haha
What happened to the sound? I was interested in hearing this but ugh, just can't take the audio in the car.
sorry for that one.
@@4xoverland Very unusual for your usually impeccable sound :)
If this car was a 45 year old landcruiser would you trust it in the Australian outback?
No.
@@4xoverland man u should visit Pakistan.. North and see how the old CJs and FJs are holding up 😂
I met a family driving a 1970’s Ford Bronco from Alaska to the lower 48 a couple years ago so... but all old school mechanics on that route could have fixed it, no problem.
More about now....less about then
Just fix it load it up and drive it till you break it.
Sorry Andrew,but the audio is terrable.
Bit to much Recapping Andrew
Not everyone has seen all the videos. Back story is important.
I agree. I skipped ahead to see recap I have seen at least twice and ended the video prematurely. First time I have ever done that for this channel.
With respect some additional criticism. Other travelers have been putting out content from Africa for months and crossing borders so selling the 105 rings a bit hollow and premature now. Combined with ditching the super tourer immediately after it was built it is really adding up to a lot of content viewed where we never get to see the project used. Sure some of it is Covid, but the rest is choices that are starting to add up in a frustrating way. I was a Patreon in the past but frankly with the super tourer I was fairly convinced my money wasn't really needed and sent it on to more modest content producers who are not just doing builds to sell off, and to be frank, not stretching out a drive across Australia on bitumen into a XX episode series. This is going to be longer than the Canning Stock series which really shows how stretched out this is getting.
I live in Australia. Borders are CLOSED. SHUT!. I explained my reason for moving on from the dream tourer. It was honest and I make no excuses. I made all the content I wanted to. No passion = no videos.
1st👍
good for you 😂
If I had that Range Rover, I'd spend whatever it took to make it more well sorted than when it left the factory and I'd drive it wherever I wanted to go, on pavement or off it.
But 45 years old doesn't bother me. I'll go to the epicenter of nowhere in a well sorted Willys MB/Ford GPW.
Well sorted is well sorted. I don't see age as being altogether relevant and compared to what I have access to in new vehicles here in the USA, the older stuff has a lot more appeal.
@@jerroldshelton9367 Im a big fan of cruise control,air bags and abs but if you go remote KISS is the only way to go.
@@grahamwhittaker8844 The KISS principle is definitely the one I want in play when I'm a day's walk away or more from the slightest vestige of civilization.
What I appreciate on my daily-driver road car isn't necessarily what I want in my wild country exploration vehicle.
Andrew you recently spoke about a weight reduction in the new troopy you propose to build. This is boring. Nobody wants to see that it's hardly any change to what you did before. Why only Toyota's? They're good cars but everyone's seen Toyotas done and done again in Australia. Please.. Now before everyone gets at me in the comments and says it will break, and it's not reliable, and make reference to all this nonsense about the new off road spec silverado 1500 trail boss soon to come out in Australia, this guy has driven Africa in old lemon 4wds. What would be so bad as to what I'm suggesting with the canopy set-up from your yellow truck? I hate the drive lines in Toyota's there's so few options. I think the silverados are a much more interesting vehicle and basically an LS motor (with direct injection) and 10 speed. I'm not denying there are more electronics, a 10 speed and more complex front end. But it's not like you couldn't work with that. You just wouldn't do it out of spite and continue to ride the Toyota bandwagon or some other usual suspects 4wds in Australia. I'm not coming at this from a show pony angle there are people in Australia who build up US trucks sure. I am coming at it from an angle "you can make it work" you can overland without it being a 79! Well I'll still watch the troopy build as you have bought it already it seems.
Horrible sound. Interesting guy
How is 274k NOT low mileage for a 45 year old vehicle!
As far as I know the sub-ten thousand miles on my 1978 Range Rover {stupidly festering in a shed now for nearly 20 years ] is genuine. THAT'S low mileage, but not very wise. Will this be the year I recommission it ?
All of that donated labor and you sold the Land Cruiser? That's messed up.
Good point
Do you know what agreement we had with them? Or are you guessing? Do you not think that 2.5 million views on TH-cam wasn't sufficient? Why don't you ask them and find out, instead of judging others without any understanding? snymans4x4.co.za
I know who to speak to if I want to explore Africa in a 4x4. Cheers
Get shit for free and profit on it, capitalism 101
@@4xoverland No, I don't and I don't want to get into anyone's business, it's just the way it's presented, and without judgment, it sounds messed up. If you guys had an agreement to build up a rig and get exposure for the shops by getting YT views, again, it's your business, but by what you've said in this video, a whole lot of labor was DONATED to build up the Cruiser, not exchanged for YT exposure, and that you sold the rig because of covid. That just sounds messed up to me.
Reasonably, an experienced person would know what it means to donate time and labor to projects of other people, and they would also know how it feels when things go south. It's all I'm saying. If you meant something else, it's your channel and your vids, and I'll just let myself out. Thank you and have a great day.
The title of this video is clickbait. Half way in the video already and nothing relating to the title yet. Edited to add: There were a number of similar comments in the last 7 hours. Andrew gives his typical reply and then deletes the comment. I wonder why he left this one standing 🤔
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