Indian Muslims And Rising Hindu Nationalism | Dr. Christophe Jaffrelot and Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2023
- Join us for an insightful exploration into the dynamics of Indian Muslims’ experiences amidst the backdrop of rising Hindu nationalism. Let’s discuss the historical, social, and political dimensions that shape this complex narrative. This session aims to foster a deeper understanding of the multifaceted issues surrounding religious identity and nationalistic ideologies in contemporary India.
About the Speaker:
Dr. Christophe Jaffrelot is Senior research fellow at CERI-Sciences Po/CNRS, Professor of Indian Politics and Sociology at the King’s India Institute (London), President of the French Political Science Association and Chair of the British Association for South Asian Studies. He works as a Non Resident Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and as a Permanent Consultant at the Centre for Policy Planning Staff of the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Among his recent publications are, "The Pakistan Paradox. Instability and Resilience", London, Hurst; New York, Oxford University Press; New Delhi, Random House, 2015, (as a co-editor with A. Kohli and K. Murali) "Business and Politics in India" (OUP, 2019) and (as a co-editor with A. Chatterji and T.B. Hansen) "The Majoritarian State. How Hindu Nationalism is Changing India" (Hurst, 2019), as co-author with Pratinav Anil, "India’s First Dictatorship. The Emergency, 1975-77" (Hurst, 2020) and as sole author "Modi’s India. Hindu Nationalism and the Rise of Ethnic Democracy" (Princeton University Press, 2021).
Moderator: Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy
Next we will talk about "how USA democracy is in danger" in Beijing. And "World Peace" in Gaza.😂😂😂
A failed state is talking about democracy and minorities. Wow !!
Why Pakistanis are concerned about indian Muslims and not Chinese Muslims?
Why does not this esteemed professor do the same kind of research regarding the state of minorities in Pakistan.
It will be very helpful if Professor also study conditions of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh.
My respect towards Veer Savarkar is increasing day by day; thanks 🙏 to all theses intellectuals😂😂😂😂😂
Why did the "elite" muslims who left india in 1947 not succeed in making pakistan glorious?
Thats what makes me vote for BJP
1:33:20 every country works for its own interests….. Muslims or not Muslims…..what has Muslim countries have done to stop the war in Gaza? Indian Muslims needs to get modern education keep religion inside their homes they don’t need to carry a Muslim banner on their foreheads become productive citizens of India …….make a difference…..modern education modern thinking is the key……Jai Hind 🙏
I'll Summarise with this. Why Pakistan lag far behind India, is the prime example of why Muslims lag behind India.
I would have like to see a paper on Hindus and other religions in Pakistan. People are obsessed with India🇮🇳
It will be the first time for me that I will vote in 2024 and thankyou so much for making my mind to vote for BJP 🙏🏼
It is so ironical that this seminar is happening in Pakistan. Pakistan shud look within itself and shud not worry about India.
You guys should discuss status of minorities in Pakistan too 😂 Hippocracy at highest level.
Arab considers you second class Muslim converts... you still didn't able to understand 😅
Two main thing you have to remember 1. Hinduism is pluralistic by nature...A Hindu doesn't have any problem if you want to pray any other god or follow any religion unless you disturb them.
2. the current movement of hindu unity is only because of divicive politics by nehru and congress where you appease Muslims by giving them unimaginable favours and facilities just for votes. imagine muslum population grew from 6% to 20% in 50 years
Hindutwa is not equivalent to Islamic extremism
One important fact of India. In a Muslim dominated constituency, there has never been a Hindu representation to the Lok Sabha. On the other hand, that’s not the norm in Hindu dominated constituent. Again in those Muslim dominated constituents, the talk is mostly about religion. On the other hand, there is universal talk (mainly development) in non Muslim dominated areas.
This person did not study the CAA. Anyone can become Indian citizen if he stays for more than 11 years. But other than Muslims can get it in 6 years because all these countries he mentioned are Muslim countries.
Help me understand how will this discussion help Pakistan repay its debts or improve its economy or help feed its ‘Muslim’ population who can’t pay for food in current circumstances!
Pakistan should care about their Muslim not Indian muslim
It's funny. Dr. Christophe is complaining that Indians are successful abroad. Sir - we worked hard for it. It's not because of Mody or RSS.
India will be Hindurashtra. Anybody who does not believe in Hinduism is not needed in India. Because Hinduism is NOT A RELIGION. IT IS A WAY OF LIFE.
Why is it so difficult for intelligent people in Pakistan to change their Constitution to a Secular/Democratic.
A debate on state of education of muslims in India, in a country where 25 million children are out of school (Claps 👏👏👏)
Jab Muslim apni country main gair muslimo ko democracy aur secularism nhi dete to gair muslim country ko bhi apni country main democracy aur secularism sirf muslim ke liye nhi deni chaiye
What are the dynamics of hindus in Pakistan is no more hidden, not even 1%,so please take care of your own economy which you get from IMF, india is a HINDU RASHTRA, JAI SHREE RAM, Jai hind❤🔥
Did not answer shaqil chaudhary question, why are pak muslims worse off in education than Indian muslims?
Why not remember apj abdul kalam president by bjp
Truth will never be spoken that Nehru prohibited entry of Sadhus to North East India . After 1947, Verrier Elwin ( who began his career in India as a Christian missionary.) was asked by Nehru to find solutions to the problems that emerged among the tribal peoples living in the far northeastern corner of India, the North East Frontier Agency (NEFA). Elwin entered into an agreement with Nehru which prohibited the entry of Sadhus into Nagaland .[11]
Anything wrong with Hindu nationalism???
Islamic republic of Pakistan talking about Hindu RAshtra and its problems. What a irony . Correct your house first. . Baateoin ke champion
I totally disagree with the guest lecturer. We never discriminate against the minority. We work hand and hand. In my professional career and personal, I have many Muslim friends. I stay in Mumbai. Even after the Mumbai serial blasts and 26/11, there were no riots in Mumbai. That itself shows the social harmony we have.
I think professor Hoodbhyo should have more visualisation on the internal problem of Pakistan not India. That is the main problem of Pakistan, they spend all the good time investing in others instead of them.
The irony is all the people sitting here have hindu ancestors thus they carry the same blood as us. So we are of same race and same genes.
What never make any sense to me is why pakistani's are always worried about indian muslims but completly silent on chinese muslims. My Pakistani friends and intellectuals( if you have any ) please first take care of your own people and start that by first feeding them and please bring this galloping inflation down in your country and give some relive to your poor people.
We as Indians already are fed up with so many positive discriminations. The whole world is doing negative discrimination. We totally oppose one more positive discrimination in the name of Muslims.
what happened to minority population in Pakisthan since independence
Sanatan idealogy is secular in nature, which promotes pluralism, hence India 🇮🇳 is secular.
Only vote for hindu party. To demolished Christan agenda
Graduates are more Hindus because we care about education. Muslims due to their big family can't go for education and send into small petty jobs.
I would like similar study for Hindus in Pakistan and bangaladesh and discuss on this channel 😂
Can you talk about the destroying of masajids, editing Quran, restricting islamic practices by the government in China?
Why dont you do same analysis on your minority
Pakistanis' want India must continue as a secular country as it was during Neheru regime, but on the other hand they want Pakistan to thrive and continue as a pure "Islamic State". What a fun or purely Nuisance !!!
when a community has been given rights to manage your institutions in the Indian constitution, which in give rise to madrasas, then expecting more IAS, IPS from the same community is asking for too much, the community leaders of this minority has immensely failed them, therefore Uniform civil code is the need of the hour, so every section of the society can flourish together, other than thinking every thing is a conspiracy by yahood or hanood to marginalize this certain community.
BJP will win again 🙏🙏
The Whole Socio-Political discourse of Pakistani state revolves around Modi & Hindutva😂😂😂😂.... Great going keep it up 👍👍
It's very interesting he had nothing good to say About India ....
His study is very biased 😢he is not talking about the Kashmir where Hindus has been genocide so Hindus are scared of Muslims to be in our ruling party. We don’t want same fate as Kashmiri Hindus
No need to discuss about Muslims in India or any other minorities discuss Hindus in Islamic countries....can you dare to discuss
Per Capita difference is due to number of people in family and it is very high in Muslim. No birth control in Muslims. Going to madrasas for education is the problem.
"Indian Muslims And Rising Hindu Nationalism" Title itself describes their area of interest, these so-called professors are not discussing something great but as usual like any Pakistani, Islamist.
Sorry sir, Hindi is not national language we don't have any national language.both Hindi and English are official language.
It's amusing to see that two non - Indians talking about India while living outside of India 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Pakistan should tell what happened to its minorities especially hindus?
As an outsider, while it is true that hindu nationalism is on the rise in India, it is still far more tolerant of minorities than Pakistan. Minorities of all sorts are all but gone in Pakistan. So instead of looking at the "plights" of Indian muslims in India, it is perhaps more productive to reflect on the plights of non-muslims in Pakistan.
Ask GORA why today's Europe crying?
Since Dr Parvez Hoodboy talks about the Aryan Invasion Theory and looks for scientific evidence, I feel he should visit Rakhigarhi in Haryana and the Central DNA institute in India based in Lucknow that has done extensive ancient DNA mapping of the region. Since he is a scientist he would appreciate the extensive scientific work done in this space by Indian geneticists, archaeologists and scientists that provides a verifiable thesis on migration from Harappa (Rakhigarhi and other regions) to other regions in Asia. Would be an interesting exercise if you could get them on your show to probe and discuss this extensively.
BJP doesn't have Muslim MPs because they do not have Muslim members. Tickets will be given to only BJP members. Hope you will agree.
*_Thank You So Much. We'll Not Let Positive Descrimination Happen And Hold Indian Development Back._*
*_I Am A Dalit. I Have Not Taken Any Quota Or Reservation To Grow Up On Socio-Economic Ladder._*
*_I Don't Support Indescriminate Reservations Or Quota System Because, It Turns Out Into A Social Divide & Feeling Of Anger Among People._*
*_No More Positive Descrimination._*
*_Education Is Now Almost Freely Available To Everyone Of Us In Age Of Internet. You Can Learn Anything From Anywhere Can Compete With Anyone._*
*_I Don't Think There's Any Descrimination In Exams. And With The Development In Technology, Education Is Democratized._*
Pls ask from guest about minority representation in pakistan politics.😂
Why doesn’t Hoodboy make program on minority discrimination in Pakistan
When he said, India was created sechular... Khel khatam.
Mr. You have invited yourself to trouble. Which book or classroom makes Muslims uncomfortable in India?
IAS and IPS are purely on merit basis. There is no reservation based on religion.
This is so strange talking about India.. not uttering a single word of Pakistanis decline.. specially the country which is founded on the basis of religion. Come on guys..and to be honest..Muslims have to be progressive that is main difference why Indian Muslims are far more educated and advance than Pakistan Muslims
Thanks I have made my mind for the vote in elections due to this video.... Voting for Modi. Don't want to go back to Congress days... Was bad, really bad. Infra, incomes, services, opportunities and education everything is of good quality now. No return please... We want to cross the point of no return 😂
In USA also indians are excelling in studies and highest-paid category jobs. Majority r hindus.
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Baseless absurd thoughts presented as facts with a preoccupied prejudice in mind against Hindus. Totally disagree with the views tabled in the debate. This is not expected from the so-called intellectuals of the western world. May God bless you with real wisdom.
Conversion is not made difficult but converting people by deceit was made criminal
18:12 Matter of fact: There is no national language in India. We cherish our diversity with mutual respect and acceptance .
India is more secular now than before. Previous Indian government (INC) was anti hindu
They called guests from country which itself is responsible for India Pakistan conflict. And expect them to be non biased?! 😂😂 good luck.. They will only multiply this conflict!
Great propaganda 😂😂😂
Request to hoodbhoy for arrange lecture on Pakistani minority like hindu Christian s and others minority . The lecture will be like this fighter and facts.
Why don't you keep your discussion Pakistan centric .If you are so worried about the muslims in India then first you should open your borders for them. And if not then stop this hypocracy of worrying about them.😂😂😂😂
what about muslim which are behind the bar in Europe more then ethnic
How this discussion will help Pakistani people in queue for grabbing a bag of rice/wheat? As far as Indian Muslim are concerned, let me tell you even if we push them to go to Pakistan on our expenses they will spit on Pakistan.😅
Shahnawaz Hussain youngest MLA and minister by bjp
I would very much like to see similar results for Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan as well. Guess that will answer a lot of your questions.
They should be asked when muslims have equal or more rights, what about China demolishing Masjids and no one question but in India they just have one thing to say they are bad with muslims.
I can bet not one hindu was in that room 😂
Muslims already get reservation under OBC categroy. What is he talking abt ??? From where this Gora has came , what r his credentials ??
When a country like pak born out of hatred for other faiths and their very existence is based on religion , the outcome of which what we seeing here in this debate. The very basic issue with Pakistan and Pakistanis is to view the world as Muslims and non Muslims .
This is the very country what started as borne out for hate of Hindus and now it reached a stage where it has eliminated chunk of Hindus from their society , castigated ahmedhis by law and constitution, downgraded Shias etc., Now, they debating a liberal democracy next door whose preamble of constitution states clearly all resident of India are equal in all aspects of their existence and enjoy the same rights. This is the real tragedy of Pakistani mindset and the so called educated elite here
Why you r not talking about minorities rights in pak ???
What u had done with hindus n christian in pak since 1947 ?
First discuss about what happened to hindus of pakistan.why they are only 1 percent in pak?
Justice sachhar commitee found Muslims is much better placed in BJP/Modi run state Gujarat in govt and other life
Parvez we don't want your thoughts, kindly educate your religion how to behave with minority
Don’t worry we will send “Atta” to Pakistan. Stop all these nonsense. Begging for a billion dollars should not waste time on something bigger than your capabilities.
1:13:40 I hear this statement all the time that they are not representing “The Real Religion” …… so who is going to decide what the real religion is?
Mr. Intellectual tell your research on "Aryan invasion theory".
Pakistani may see difference between southern states and northen states. But in practice no such difference. 99.99 % of India's population considers India first and rest comes only after India. Crores of southern population settled all over India. So as nothern population.
Request Hoodboy to call an Indian intellectual and Prof Christophe on a one on one. There are too many half truths, inconsistencies and contradictions in his presentation to be taken seriously
Netherland following Indian Law i.e same Citizenship Amendment Bill no refugees for muslim 😂😂 Europe next.
Soon india will be hindu rastra
sorry, but the last time.., the quota system was introduced , it led to the patrician, the idea of quota on the basis of religion is dead on arrival.
If you that much concern about Indian Muslim why can't you take them
India is more secular now than it was ....BJP does not do appeasement politics for Muslim votes
A foreigner is teaching again. Sorry
Prof. hoodbhy should visit India to see the condition of minorities in India. All information about India is showing wrong and I'll inform information......🙈🙉🙊
I’m glad Dr Hoodbhoy brought up the differential in outcomes in UK between immigrants from India and those from Pakistan. It was a bit surprising how CJ dismissed cultural differences out of hand.