Tyranids vs Adeptus Custodes 2000pts | Warhammer 40k 10th Ed Battle Report Ep54
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Today we bring out the NEW Balance Dataslate, and It's Crusher Stampede Tyranids vs the Newly buffed Adeptus Custodes. Who will win?
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Custodes Army
4:50 Tyranids Army
8:55 Battle Field Overview/ Mission
10:50 INTO THE AM
13:25 Roll Off
14:00 GAME
1:24:09 Conclusion & Post Game - เกม
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FYI the Custodes Warden FNP anility needs to be declared at the start of the phase, not when they are picked as the target.
Good game gents, the dice were certainly up to their usual shenanigans it seems!
Small thing for the Custodes player: but he seemingly forgot about Trajann's ability to allow his unit to ignore modifiers a couple of times(in the last two turns he could have ignored the penalties from Savage Roar both times, and on the second turn when he rolled a 5 for his Shadow In The Warp Leadership check which would have been a pass since Trajann ignores the Neurotyrants -1 modifier 😉)
Trajann and His unit would ignore the -1 modifier to Hit and to wound
Yup - and there was a -1 to a battleshock test that shouldn't have applied!
You are correct! We totally forgot about that until the end. Thankfully it didn't have too much of an impact on the whole game.
Great camera angles gents, really enjoyed all the different angles and focus on what's currently happening ingame. Communication is great also. It's hard to find a channel that does bat reps properly, nothing worse then looking at two dudes rolling dice and you can't even see the models or dice.
Really appreciate that! We're trying to do what's best, even if we are a "Big Budget" channel.
I love seeing you two play these specific armies. This matchup was the first video of yours I watched and I've been a fan ever since :)
Gotta give props for the Brand of sacrifice tattoo
Keep em coming, I just found you guys out and you're a perfect balance between 3h battle reports live recordings and 40k in 40minutes. I loved it!
The screamer killer has blast on its ranged attack
You have to pop your feel no pain at the beginning of the phase. Yeah it's sucks I just learned this and it makes a huge difference.
Very important clarification! Thank you!
Awesome battle teport. Loved seeing these lists! Great work guys!
Keen to see a nice tyranid list (fluffy, not super competitive) vs a few quite competitive lists in future. Leep up the amazing work!
I would say that he is able to use the strats, as when he selected his target they were an eligible choice for the strat, You're battleshock strat happened after they had already been selected.
Much like Magic, there's an order of operation. Most would sight the last in first out, but this isn't the same.
When he chose the strats and spent the CP they were legit targets.
If you had chosen to hit the unit before he chose to use strats then they would be ineligeble.
Nice to see a crusher stampede played well, even with incredibly swingy dice.
Forgetting Trajann's ignoring modifiers hurt a lot also.
With the screamer decrease I think its funny that its just 250 Points with a Tyrannocyte for a deepstriking Screamer killer
Great game as always!
Sed stampede swarm in 9th loved it good to see it used again.
So a few things Connor.
1st, the FNP ability has to be activated at the beginning of the phase.
2nd, the -1 to would when wardens are lead by a character is for range and melee.
3rd, unfortunately bikes are still trash.
4th, Venetari are amazing secondary scorers and also are good at taking out your opponents secondary scorers.
5th, Custodes are great at holding the middle and ONE flank not both. Think about putting a warden brick on center and one side no man’s land objectives with the terminators in between to support either. And don’t forget the termies teleport.
And lastly, think about putting a callidus assassin in the list. It’s a great way to even the playing field on CP since custodes have no way of gaining extra CP except to discard a secondary.
Custodes brought a 170pt handicap with the jet bike and Enhancement combo.
It's a shame that this comment is spot on, the bikes are one of the coolest units in the army.
If am not mistaken that jet bike lord is by himself so couldnt do that fall back move since he needs to be leading a unit, also he was battleshocked by the roar strat so would have wounded on 6s not 5s at 53:35, also 1:13:05 you also said 5 gone through when 6 did
The bike captain did have ceaseless hunter, which allows the bearers unit to shoot and charge in a turn it fell back. So he would still be able to fall back and charge despite losing his attached unit (as the character becomes their own unit after losing an attached)
Connor if you want a competitive list for post Dataslate that is currently 7-0 this is mine
Emperor’s Elite (2000 Points)
Adeptus Custodes
Shield Host
Strike Force (2000 Points)
CHARACTERS
Blade Champion (120 Points)
• 1x Vaultswords
Shield-Captain in Allarus Terminator Armour (165 Points)
• 1x Balistus grenade launcher
1x Guardian spear
• Enhancements: Unstoppable Destroyer
Trajann Valoris (160 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Watcher’s Axe
BATTLELINE
Prosecutors (40 Points)
• 1x Prosecutor Sister Superior
• 1x Boltgun
1x Close combat weapon
• 3x Prosecutor
• 3x Boltgun
3x Close combat weapon
Prosecutors (40 Points)
• 1x Prosecutor Sister Superior
• 1x Boltgun
1x Close combat weapon
• 3x Prosecutor
• 3x Boltgun
3x Close combat weapon
OTHER DATASHEETS
Allarus Custodians (390 Points)
• 6x Allarus Custodian
• 6x Balistus grenade launcher
6x Guardian spear
Allarus Custodians (130 Points)
• 2x Allarus Custodian
• 2x Balistus grenade launcher
2x Guardian spear
Custodian Wardens (250 Points)
• 5x Custodian Warden
• 5x Guardian spear
1x Vexilla
Custodian Wardens (250 Points)
• 5x Custodian Warden
• 5x Guardian spear
1x Vexilla
Venerable Land Raider (240 Points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
2x Godhammer lascannon
1x Twin heavy bolter
Witchseekers (50 Points)
• 1x Witchseeker Sister Superior
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Witchseeker flamer
• 3x Witchseeker
• 3x Close combat weapon
3x Witchseeker flamer
ALLIED UNITS
Callidus Assassin (90 Points)
• 1x Neural shredder
1x Phase sword and poison blades
Eversor Assassin (75 Points)
• 1x Executioner pistol
1x Power sword and neuro gauntlet
Great game and some insane rolls on both sides
Good game guys, thanks for the battle report. MVP OOE I guess. I thought tyranids were going down with the charge of Trajan, but they kinda bounced on OOE. Few mistakes here and there as mentioned in the comments, but really nice overall. Keep it up, I really enjoy to see tyranids :)
Just a couple of things I noticed: Will of the Hive Mind is once per turn, not once per battle round; and Stinger Salvoes are 0ap, not -1ap.
Great BatRep though, always enjoy watching this channel
FYI Trajan ignores modifiers. So savage roar has no affect on him or his squad
I went 2-1 at a local RTT with Crusher Stampede. BEFORE the points changes. I scored 90, 90 & 50.
Against custodes I think you would have been much better off using the "fight on death" strat, specially in situations such as the SK being charged by Trajann (who ignores modifiers as others have pointed out)
Getting to fight on a 3+ with both your +1s to hit and would seems like a great use of a CP. Specially when the alternative relies on a battleshock against leadership 5 units.
Also, OOE.. what a boss. Best hitter in the nids roster, not even close.
Nice game! I love the all monster theme all though without the Norn Emissary it felt kinda wrong to me personally. Also, wouldn´t that be a good counter to the Custodes? Having 3 of them and let them take down 3 key units of Custodes?
And i got a question. If i get in EN with my Tyrant Guard, Hive Tyrant unit, would the opponent still be able to shoot within EG of me and their unit?
Neurolictors are worth the point. Nothing else in the army can do what they do.
So im confused. Since the screamer killer doesn't bracket, does it always have the +1 to hit from crusher? or did i mishear or misinterpret what you said?
Hi, I think you misheard (or more likely I misspoke). You are right though. Once the Fex is wounded it's always hitting on 2s
Great Bat Rep !
people tend to forget, that allarus ability gives them rerolls against units with characters attached too.
Only on the character not whole squad
In the first Tyranid shooting phase you guys forgot about the -1 to wound ability of the wardens and for some reason you mismatched the toughness and strenght of the attacks a lot (i.e. tyranofex acid spray wounding of 3s - should have been 4s, stingers wounding on 4s - should have beed 5s)
MONSTER MASH!
Awesome video.
Does anyone know why some people call the Blade Champion a "Blade Wizard?" I feel like a boomer for not getting this lmao
It's what Bridger from the channel Table top titans calls the blade champion.
because he has a magic sword up his wizard sleeve for any job lol
I dont know about using members to skew rolls. I like watching batrepa so I can see how armies perform.
I am a newbie, may i know why tyranids can setup out of the deployment line?
The Neurolictors have Infiltrate, which allows them to do that.
Nope, trajans squad is not -1 to hit, thats why you bring trajan.
Is the acid sprayer traditionally been the best option for the tryanoflex? Just got my first model and I want to spec him up proper!
The Tfex is worth magnetizing entirely and it's pretty easy. There are several guides available online. I can give it any of the ranged weapons, or attach the birthing sac and talons to make it a tervigon.
To answer your question, yes the acid spray is the traditionally best option but it changes from edition to edition
Using fixed for custodes isn’t great cause you need the CP from discarding cards.
Unfortunately Stinger Salvos are no longer -1 AP 😭 not that it matters too much haha
Cover can't reduce your save to 2's e.g. @22:45 you said you were in cover and rolled two 2's and said you saved due to cover.
Cover can only reduce to 3+ maximum
That only applies if a weapon has no ap. If it does, the benefit of cover still happens
Not true. Benefit of Cover can remove one AP regardless of the base Save. It cannot apply to 2+ or 3+ Save against AP 0.
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Benefit of Cover: Add 1 to armour saving throws against ranged attacks.
Does not apply to models with a Save of 3+ or better against attacks with an AP of 0.
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Hey, where did you get the terrain?
It's 1st Generation Snot Goblin Gaming Terrain. He's actually just about to launch the Next Generation of it, stay tuned to the channel to learn more about it!
Does anybody know if it's tournament legal to use that old biobore? Or I must buy the new one?
As long as it's on the proper base size it's fine(i think the new one's are on a bigger base)
Absolutely can use the older model. Most tournaments will prefer you put them on the bigger base size though.
hasnt it been changed to cover can onlyl take a save to a minimum of 3+ now
Unless you have a 2+ save normally. Otherwise yes, max is 3+
Dosent trajan ignore the battle shock?
He ignores the OC 0 part, but not Battleshock all together.
He said tyrant strat abilty is once per battle round. Was this changed? My 40k app says once per turn
It IS once per turn. My smooth brain misspoke.
@@maelstromgamingstudios5240 oh right haha. And is it confirmed a unit keeps a atragagems affect, even if it becomes battleshocked in that same phase? It is verh confusing, I have no Idea.
Rule says they can't use stratagems to affect a BS unit. But the tense seems unclear haha
Custodes player: "I am bad at secondary"
Also Custodes player: *Full send to the middle*
"GEE, I wonder if going tactical would have helped score..."
No... not with that level of "tactical acumen" no.
I see people using the FW units (like Venatari)
Where do i find the rules for them? I dont want to buy them if i need to buy all kinds of obscure publications
I presumed it would be the 30k book, but isn't that all 30k stat blocks? How would it translate to 10th ed 40k?
So there must be some other publication out with 40k translstions, no?
Wahapedia should have all the rules. That's what I use
FW unit data sheets are in the free imperial armour PDFs on the Warhammer community website. They're also accessible in the app.
GO NIDS! GO NIDS! GO NIDS! If you say that right, it sounds kinda like something else. ; )
GONADS!
Says 4 sisters shows 5, says 5 terminators shows 4 lol
Firstly go nids, secondly I think you did combat incorrectly . All charges go first then the defender gets to attack back then it changes player which they decide which unit to attack back that hasn’t charge and was already in combat . Then it changes player etc
All charging units get the "fights first" ability. So you resolve all the fights first, then go alternating with the defending player activating first.