Dogfight Over Russia: F/A-37 Talon & EDI vs Su-37 Terminators - Stealth (2005)
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Talon 1 manages to track and keep in visual distance of the rogue, target seeking EDI. Unknown to him, Captain Cummings in order to cover his misjudgements has given away their engine heat signatures to the Russians hoping that they would be shot down. Their stealth is compromised and when under attack by the Russian pilots, are forced to engage. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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In fact this movie tells us that in order to win a dog fight against Su37, your plane has to defy laws of physics.
apparently it's a Russian plane again ))
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I'm sure any real modern American air supremecy fighter could beat an SU37
@@deez8993 Russia Loves to change one small thing and call it a all new plane
F22 would kill it as long as it isn't seen but in a dogfight, you're fucked against an Su 37.
@@deez8993 Not in a dog fight
SU-37: Has a great thrust vectoring
7th Gen Fighter: Able to break the law of physics
UCAV performed J-Turn. Also termed Herbst maneuver. It is real, it was demonstrated by American X-31 , via thrust vectoring. As UCAV did not have a biological sub-system , it could pull 10+ G without GLOC. The flight physics are accurate in this film. I was working at Digital Domain in 2005, but on different project , when they were working on Stealth. I saw how it came together. Aircraft are CGI, but their flight trajectories were generated by sophisticated flight simulation software with help from NASA, Raytheon, Lockheed-Martin, and Northrop Grumman. SU-37, in this film, have thrust vectoring, but TVC in Sukhois is available only below 200 knots air speed, otherwise the airframe would under overstressed, crew would GLOC, and inflight structural damage could occur. For sake of story and visibility in a the film, VFX artist did crush the distances between aircraft.
*laughs in ace combat*
@@znspyder Belkan witchcraft is on the way
@@dkoz8321 that is nowehere close in being a J-turn. you must be delusional. that hollywood plane thing has a turn rate as high as a helicopter with 0 airspeed
@@znspyder Trigger alway do that lol
Everybody: talking about the physics.
Me: How many flares/chaff can this thing carry
That aircraft carries squadron worth of A-10's flares and chafs lol😆
Yes i was realy amaze by that aswell 😂😂😂😂😂😂 that flare almost took that plane down 😅😅😅
“Chafe” and flares, too lol
At the inception of it's design as far as it is known, there was a requirement that 38.2% of the aircraft weight needed to be chaff and flares to better evade short range missales. This was due to the fact that the aircraft is a steath fighter. Look it up...
Depends on design of flare. Some modern designs for large aircraft use bundle of 32 , with mix of wavelengths, packed into a cartridge. Aircraft flare dispenser can carry 30 to 60 flare cartridges. Release is on a program. One program is to prevent lock on by seeker. Other program releases bundle to saturate seeker with a soup of wavelengths.
Sukhois use 30mm canons those shells are basically grenades, but here they seem to be doing damage like pistol rounds😂
Yeah because it's hollywood and that is the main character so plot armor.
Hollywood my guy
With silencer
Plus only a few seconds of burst but here it has been firing a lot longer.
Can u stop supporting the Russians?
This movie belike: Su 37, you are the most dangerous Jet Fighter but.... this is Hollywood, and you had no hope in here lol.
Lol
Russian planes dangerous tell that to Ukraine 😘
@@funfacttrivias2121oh
no more air support? 👁️👄👁️ in Ukraine?
The su-37 never left experimental stage
@@funfacttrivias2121 dude ukraine literally lost all its troops on the donbass front that is why they moved 16k troops there from the western part of the contry
Imagine invading a country’s airspace, shooting down their jets, all but starting a war with them, and then claim they are the enemy.
Oh wait…
Russia in Ukraine be like:
@@avrocat80 🤣🤣🤣
Russian bot is obvious
@@yukik199 Anybody heard from Ya Boy Ed? He posted yesterday and nobody has seen him since.
EDI: “The chances of survival in single combat are less than 9%.”
Maverick: “Hold my beer.”
Every Ace Combat protagonist (yes I'm including Monarch from Project Wingman): *silence on radio but all nodding in agreement during formation flight*
Him doing this with a 7th grn fighter against su 35
Maverick: doing this with a old big cat against 3 5th gen stealth fightrr
Maverick: "Hold the tab"...
Ding dong!!!!
In maverick doesn't had radar on 14 tomcat but how he locked into felon?
Hollywood logic
Same as rambo movie haha against vietcong
Dude I never appreciate how beautiful the SU-37 really is until THIS PARTICULAR scene, it is absolutely BEAUTIFUL
❤❤❤😊
It's basically looks like a modified SU-27.. But SU-37 doesn't exist. I think they hade made a few prototypes.. But That's it... It was discontinued..
@@mattyboy456 Su-37 Terminator was indeed a prototype for thrust vectoring. It crashed in the late 90s, but evolved into what became the Su-35 that is in service today.
The Su-37 only existed in single-seat configuration. They never made a two-seater variant, though the Flanker family has many two-seaters, notably the Su-30 family, with the J-16 being arguably the most advanced version today. There's also the Su-34 Fullback which has its own charm.
@@9999AWC anyway guys, i aint no military or fighter jet expert, just want to say it looks damn badass.
Судя на каких самолетах они летают у нас должны быть уже су-125
су 75 уже есть, а если доплатить союхмультфильму и кружку любителей авиамоделирования, то думаю можно сварганить су 10000000000000000000000025.
Этож сколько президентов за этот срок сменилось... А в рашке до сих пор правит пуйло
Судя по фильму , уже отменили перегрузку , жду такого будущего
А че за фильм?
@@lex_36 не знаю и знать не знаю как всегда крутые американцы и плохие русские которых они легко сделали
Don't you just love it when the planes you're dogfighting don't follow the simplest laws of physics? Like turning around mid-flight and preceding to fly 300 knots sideways while having a perfectly stable nose attitude, or losing all airspeed in 2 seconds, only to regain all airspeed in 1 second (the merge)
Thank god it's a movie.
@@MrMcbear Isn't this a documentary? Chronicle of air combat "Phantom of Kyiv"
ThePilotMan I know sir.
*laughs in ace combat*
He did a post stall maneuver, so basically ace combat physics
I don't know if anyone noticed, but in that movie, when it's a cockpit of a Su-37, it's not a cockpit of an SU-37, but it's a shot from the cockpit of an L-39 Albatross. (from the Czech training aircraft)
Hah, you're Czech aren't you?
@@martinplayer2348 Yeah I am 😅
Who the fuck would know that lol
@@MacDaddie9 who? Whoever is Czech could know it. I am Czech but I don't. Because I don't know almost nothing about planes overall..
@@aneko_femboy jo to bylo jasný😂
Come On...this was downright an unfair fight... But the SU-37 managed to go head to head with them. Cheers to those pilots !
Ace Combat physics
Its a movie, dont get serious
In real life, these Su-37 Terminators wouldn't stand a chance against these FA-37 Talons whatsoever. . .
@@Phantom_Of_Furyin real life these FA-37's couldnt break the laws of physics
I understand that this is a movie, still I think that SU37 would have been far harder to destroy since it uses thrust vectoring in real life.
There su30s and they put up a good fight considering their going against a 6gen supermaneuverable aircraft that regains its speed in an instant
A human pilot couldn’t make that sharp turn like EDI in real life that’s a lot of G’s on the human body
There are more Su-37's in this clip than were made IRL.
And thrust vectoring isn't a instant dogfight win mate.
True to a certain extent. However, these Russian pilots were going against a UAV and the top ace in the US Navy with far more training hours than the Russian counterparts. Trust vectoring takes a toll on the human body so the Russian pilots cannot pull 9gs for very long. It will tear the pilots apart before the planes crash.
@@tshavfengvang7831 Full credit to the US pilots who have far more hours of flight experience, but don’t let that fool you. During the Korean War Russian pilots actually flew the MIG15 against American F86 and those pilots were veterans of WW2 who flew against Germany. I just like Russian fighter jets because of they are designed and how they are used. The SU37 I think is one of the best prototypes of Russian aircraft that is built for dogfight since it never went into service. But it all goes to the pilots, how well do they know their planes and it’s capabilities.
Is it just me or does the Su-37 have two seats and should actually be an Su-30?
Edit: I know this movie is old but...
Yeah it basically is SU30 with SU37 camo.Besides the SU37 was only one and it crashed.
I thought Su-37 was just advance iteration of the family of flanker that was going trial and testing.
@@HappiKarafuru it was a technology demonstrator, like the F-15S/MTD
Well su 37 had a way more badass name than the other su’s. Terminator > Flanker
@@hxpocritical7108 the model they used are Two Seat Terminators, the name ain't my point
The plot armor in this movie is crazy.
2:29 "I want to understand the enemy"
How that connect on that movie tell me
@@1lezthunder1 it’s a reference to ace combat 7 where the plane pulls off the same/similar maneuver and shoots down another plane with it and then the pilot says “I wanted to understand the enemy”
@@hxpocritical7108 i know
@@hxpocritical7108 the pilot didnt shoot the su 37
Судя по тому какие незначительные отклоняемые поверхности у этих американских вундервафель и отсутсвие отклоняемого вектора тяги на двигателях - на такие маневры они не способны
В Голливуде с физикой не дружат и не дружили никогда)
Ну как не способны?!
Вон же в кино даже сняли! 🤣
В реальной жизни все ещё круче!
Даже двигатель глушит в полете и моментально перезапцскает!
у них РАПТОР уже 20 лет с отклоняемЬІм веткором летает сирию бомбит сколько мигов сколько сушек сбито кошмар
"Stealth" is for me the worst aviation themed movie ever produced.This scene is particularly embarrassing to watch. It would be fun if someone made an improved, updated version with the Americans screaming in horror: It is a pair of Su-57SM2, the Felon-E! And then the two yankee invaders being shot down.
@@user-fq9ig3xq3b ты что несёшь?
I guess the laws of physics didn't exist in this movie.
They dont in most movies.
In Hollywood with special emphasis.
Think: Ace Combat physics.
I know these are movies that break the laws of physics but you got to remember one thing...
The F/A-37 and EDI are Vtols
@@aiosquadron that maneuver at 2:28 looks like something Mihaly would do
2:35 “you could’ve done that sooner…”
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Everybody gangsta till the water starts speaking latin
more like me vs Adfx-11
I get the reference
american
American in movies:a hero
Reality world: a warcrimes a weaklings and cowards 😂
Russians in movies: cold, fearless, calculated, professionals
Russians in reality: war criminals who bomb hospitals and lose capital ships in a land war
@@thiccchungo1041 that's how war movies should be not full of lies also Russians is helping syrians removing USA rubbish (isis Wahabis radicals) so the American can't get oil freely and illegally and lies on media 😂😂😂
We’re the hero’s always. No matter what (:
@@Who-Uhm-Cares 😂😂typical Americans movie it's just fantasy but reality they all dead huh 🤣
@@AAAA-tp4gw all that talk, and still America will turn your country into a new parking lot 💀
I remember walking to blockbuster to buy this DVD, such a great memory
Movie name plz
Le harías un gran favor al mundo si nombras esa película.
@@muhammadammarali1055 stealth
@@alejoquiroga9369 stealth
@@TonyRios igual que el original?
F/A-37: *does kulbit maneuver*
Su-37: Hey! I can do that too!
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Mister X: wow, they really put his soul into that plane
Mobius 1: Finally, a worthy competitor!
Arsenal Bird: "Nice UCAV. I'll take 1000 of them please."
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Crimson 1: Hmph not bad...
Typical Hollywood movies 😒😒😒😒
Well looks like back in 2004-05, people were confused between Su 30MKI and Su 37 as both got canard, same engine same design but MKI is twin seater. Well this is not the mistake made by creators in this scene the main problem is with, in the CGI they show twin seater and F 16B/D/F like bubble canopy while in practical explosion models were crafted as single seater with as usual Su 27 canopy.
I think the one in CGI unit and other in practical effects don't talk with each other much
I thought I was the only one who thought it this
I mean seriously, the 30's canopy is t h i c c compared to this one
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The su-37s were the only here that could turn full reverse it’s like they used them for the reason to show off the stealth capabilities as a fighter jet in the future
That's called Cobra maneuver for Su fighters
You do realize the Gsh-30-1 fires 30mm grenades at 900m/s. That's an huge explosion on impact and lots of kinetic force impacting the thin metal that covers the plane. One hit and the plane would be destroyed or unflyable. Here it's like they shot him with 5.62mm lol
Эти ваши компьютерные летающие утюги никогда не сравняться с СУ-37!
idzi naxui , cy 34 flying duck . send cy 37 it will be flying duck aswell
Хорошо летают только красивые самолёты.(Туполев)
👍👍👍👍🇷🇺💪💪💪💪
Ace Combat 7's new DLC?
piy
and removed aircraft from modern warships?
@@ChocoWaferRoll yeah true
X02s strike wyvern only relative is f37 talons.
@@Anthony-66 true,you have a point
With the ultra realistic logic of the film i can confirm that 7th generation aircrafts can be able to break the laws of physics 🗿
And this wouldn't make Russia/North Korea absolutely furious and start WW3/Wargames in the real world, no sirree!
I remember people back in that time rationalising this as 100% possible 😂
Отличный фрагмент. Жаль очень фантастический. Ведь Су-37 единственный реальный герой совершающий реальные эволюции в воздухе. Все остальные - сказочные герои.
Просто Су-37 настолько хорош, что победить его могут только инопришеленские технологии
@@mekov1664 которые к тому же спиздили наш су-47 с обратной стреловидностью крыла, всё трюки которые исполнила капсула с обрубками крыльев как раз могут исполнить СУ, а вот это дерьмо если бы и было способно держаться в воздухе то только по прямой и на огромной скорости
Да эти американцы умеют только унижать наших истребителей и не только.
@@Fe_Republik не хочу принижать заслуги наших авиастроителей, но первый полет американского X-29 произошел на 13 лет раньше, чем полет Су-47.
Интересный мультик!
So you invade Russian Air Space, shoot down Russian jets and say "Russia is a threat to other countries"
I know that this is a movie clip,
But sometimes it seems like it's fact
Hmmm are you saying that now
@@bl4ckrabb1t Yeah . Why you want to point missile's in direction of Russia ? The only simple thing they got to do is to stay netural neither with Russia or Nato .... but they couldn't , then here it comes war , they wanted it they're gonna deal with it !
Russia effectively pushed its own borders closer to Poland, while scaring neutral countries closer to joining nato.
@@Keith-jp6jw thats not true , border line's are where they are , from long time ago . No one pushed it .... but thats what happend when your governament is buyed by globalists ...
I’d like you to reason how annexing land to the west of Russian border isn’t expanding westward. Lol
I came back from the future! This movie was ahead of its time! AI 2024 is being deployed in the F18 hornet aircraft and in 2025 will be very strong to deploy in 6th generation aircraft like this movie predicts.
Сказка хороша только вот во всей этой сказке Су 37 не вымошленный самолёт, и в реальном бою все будет иначе! Русские самолёты самые быстрые и маневренные, с отличным вооружением и электроникой, у врага нет шансов!
Come on it's Hollywood they lied but in reality they die since Russians is well known for its heavily ground forces with extreme anti air units capable of reaching aircraft for miles Slava ROSSIYA 👍
Those stealth fighters in the movie are propaganda and breaking law of physics including the impossible 360 degrees maneuvers.
@@jzisers its hollywood hahahah its always bullshits and too many cgi edits
Su-37 aircraft are very maneuverable but they in no world are the fastest with best electronics, not by a long shot
@@thiccchungo1041 He did not exactly refer to this aircraft but possibly other Russian aircraft, TU-160 , MIG-31 , TU-22M teeth and others.
2:31 Jeez I got Ace Combat vibe here
Mobius one vs Yellow 13 vibes
Same for me, this slowmo is insane !
Post-Stall Manuever😳
Belkan witchcraft
Да пока что на оборот русские самолёты такие маневры могут а американские нет...
об этом говорят кадры воздушного боя под украиной
@@user-ng3bz3xs1k кадры воздушных боёв? У Украины нет нормальных сушек, 35 их легко собъёт даже не под летая к ним.
@@user-ng3bz3xs1k footages from dcs lol and your ghost of kyiv doesn't exist XD
@@Tacitus_Kilgor1899 yes, but stinger missiles do. Hell at this point I wouldn't be suprised if a russian plane got shot down by a stugna, after all if it's possible with the ka-52 alligator then the sky's the limit.
@@bartekkurkowski1516 Stugna is 2-nd gen atgm, so I demand a video proof of it's AA ability. I only saw them fired at armor and medevacs (Red cross: I'll ignore that).
This movie was actually very good tbh. The premise, the dog fights, the CGI still holds up and it’s definitely a good one to rewatch.
yeah of course the dogfights were good🤣🤣🤣🤣
specially the fact that some americans jets doesn't obey the laws of physics
1:55 "You could have done that sooner." "I want to understand the enemy."
В реальном бою, СУ 37 так искусно заходил бы в хвост этим самолётам , а не как нарисовал Голливуд
Ñ
Uraaa
В реальном бою Украинцы на старых мигах и сушках набили уже 200новейших расишстских сушек и мигов.
In real life the su37s wouldn't even have taken off due to lack of fuel
@@bartekkurkowski1516 yes that too
They actually showed their classified 6th gen aircraft worldwide
Жесткая у них самоирония, если их супер новароченные истребители, не могли сразу уничтожить наших старичков
В фильме даже и 5 %не показали на что способен су37.
It’s a movie made in 2006
FA-37 TALON didn't have thrust vector. What the magic...
RIP to rear visibility
This is some kind of nonsense. Given the concept of a new American aircraft, its aerodynamic properties are equal to those of a brick. There is no elementary physics in cinema. An aircraft with such characteristics cannot make such maneuvers at that speed. And the second fact that makes me laugh is that the American plane of the future fighter with the Russian plane of the 4th generation. If the aircraft claims to be the newest generation, it should have significant advantages over the previous generation. Remember the outlines of the SP-71, which gave it the opportunity to develop a record flight speed. If you look at the glider of the Russian Su-27 aircraft, which became the base for further modifications, then it is ideal for conducting combat at close range. And this plane has neither the one nor the other. There is not even a hint of stealth that the B-2 or F-35 have. This cinematic new American aircraft is just a living target. I'm surprised how such a film could be made.
You're surprised by the inaccuracies of a piece of fiction?
You know its a movie right? Calm down plus there was a plane that had a similar wing design that was proposed but it was difficult to keep stable though nowadays it may be more viable with computer assistance
If you saw the film, their commander gave the heat signatures to the russians allowing them to detect it.
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It's called "fiction" you larper
Sad part is, when I first saw this movie, I thought no way would a dogfight with a stealthed aircraft ever get this close. However, after seeing several DCS World videos where they try their best to emulate the RCS of stealth fighters using the missiles that were in service when this movie was made, the majority of them devolve into dogfights after the radar guided missiles are all expended.
Imagine I ironically citing DCS
@@jb76489 I mean what else are we going to cite? Battlefield? Call of Duty?
@@RedneckRapture hmm, maybe the real world?
The fact you only listed video games says so much about you lmao
@@jb76489 Ok, name a battlefield engagement between stealth fighters.
@@RedneckRapture I never said one happened. The only fighters that are definitely stealth (F-22/F-35) are operated by countries that are Allies with each other. The Su-57 and J-20 might be stealth (and that’s a big might) but there’s been no war between russia/China and an operator of f22/f35. However, the right response to not having real world data is not to treat a fucking video game as somehow definitive
0:50 this part gets me every time 🔥💯
Классная фантастика!
Yup they can only do this in hollywood against russians not in real life, let them enjoy it
Или? Поредната идея за военно състезална битка с изтребители
SU-57: (whistling from behind)
I love how Russia just gets renamed Su-33s for their futuristic fighters
Sanctions really do be hitting different
Zelenski is a clown
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Su-33 is just a Navy Su-27
That maneuver would've squashed the pilot's organs against his bones
Ну если у них в кабине гранатомёт у каждого лежит ,нашим тоже пр мухи на класть в кабину 🤣
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The AI Aircraft EDI was the best part in this movie.
To answer EDI's question, the programs that were built into his memory were only there as a reference that they didn't mean the attack was meant for that country but for that scenario. Ex-what happened with Ragoo. It was meant as a way that if a squadron was out flying training or something, instead of coming back to the ship for briefing they can get the info enroute to the new target.
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Дааа... Походу СУ-57 этих двоих просто порвал бы в одиночку... Раз они так долго возились с 37😂😂😂
It’s tucking hilarious that in this movie the only way for the 7th gen fighter to win is to throw the laws of physics out the window.
So that's why the su-37 entered production in this universe unlike IRL
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A 7th gen fighter would have probably yeeted the poor Su-37 hundreds of kilometers away with BVR missiles if it was realistic.
This proves the superiority of Russia technology....
Then Ukrane ruined it and proved it to be shit
@@toptiergaming6900 keep telling yourself that.
Посмотрим что стоит F-35, против нашего Су-35. Пусть победит сильнейший!
Dogfight su35 wins beyon visual range f35 wins
The F-22 already shot down both.
@@rubenlopez3364 no ones talking about f22 here
@@rubenlopez3364 its gonne be retired soon
F35 takes it no question
FunFact: if a movie creates a fictional physics breaking aircraft to fight against your aircraft it means the SU-37 is really a good jet.
Очередная американская мечта , приснившаяся режиссёру во сне .
AI can take a bunch of parameters ( air speed, weight, thrust, position, airframe durability...) calculate, execute counter measure, maneuver with perfect precision and faster than you blinking your eye with no G force limit. The era of human pilot will soon be ended.
Maybe so sir, but not today.
There are still going to be times when human passion/compassion will be needed.
Но только в фантастических фильмах Голливуда Су-37 сбивает супер новый самолёт с искусственным интеллектом 🤷♂️
Okay I guess in your timeline software can defies physics.Mine can't.
@Anuran Basak It is. I'm talking about the
G limit that humans can take. Machines can take much more than humans. Enable the manufacturer to make frames that withstands much more than usual. Therefore it can pull extreme maneuver that no human can.
Precisely the maneuver that is so particular to SU Flankers is the one that the other fictional planes make on them and the flankers never make (of course there is the problem of energy loss that the fictional planes seem not having but still)...
...some writer or some military advisor butthurted by the existence and capabilities of the SU Flanker series detected.
The move the UCAV pulled is physically impossible for even the Russian flankers, the UCAV used its VTOL system after it banked right, leveling off and hovering while rotating to track the flanker, no flanker can VTOL, the maneuver your thinking of is the cobra, where the aircraft rapidly pitches upwards, bleeding speed to allow the tailing craft to pass it.
And yes I'm aware the UCAV is of fictional design.
@@scp-049lover8 I'm thinking you just wanted to make a comment...
@@Fergutor yes lmao
*Laugh in Verner Voss with his Fokker Triplane 100 years ago*
Remember how he make a half circle rotate while firing his machinegun on a fight against 5 British Se-5 biplane fight also piloted by some of the best aces of British Royal flying corps
So, according to the movie, to beat an SU-37, you need two fifth gen fighters, one being sentient..
Just to barely win.
That says a lot about the SU-37.
It's like when Godzilla fought against King Ghidorah, he needed the Navy, Army, and US Airforce to help with a Victory because he couldn't do it on his own.
I'd say that was more like a 7th gen, lol.
Edi being an autonomous stealth drone like prototype
Trigger: hold my beer
It was proved this time how bad the performance of SU-37 is. It can't be helped because it's a movie, but in reality it can be killed in seconds.
Oh really kid?
Another propaganda eater
Another proof?
Lol, try send F-35 up against SU-35S
With all that stealth, without a great aviation, the SU-35S could've blown F-35 for seconds by doing Cobra maneuver
Can F-35 do that? Yeah, definitely would stall in first try and hit the ground
@@aizuranisukandaru9744 1)F-35 has stealth and superior BVR capabilities compared to Su-35S.
2)F-35 is not an air dominance fighter, it will be F-15E, F-15EX and F-22 that will fight for air dominance
Su 37 isn't a two seater. They didn't even try
that third one was a su30, one of the 2 seater variants of the flanker
Mustve been a Su-30 colorized in Su-37 livery.
@@calebvillar9930 and if it was an Su-30, it would've had a smoother and wider looking canopy
Its because of CGI
Su-37UB?
This movie presented the scenario of NGAD and Ai controlled advanced flying weapons long before the concept became mainstream famous.
The Stealth was ahead of its time.
That is why the physics of flying is out of reality because Hollywood was still unsure if public would accept realistic dogfight as entertaining.
Top gun did well though
@@themyththelegendphilswift3201 you mean realistic flying?
Yes, Top gun did not overtly exaggerated the flying dynamics.
But just a reminder that it is not 100 realistic. Since drama is needed to spice things up!
One of the sickest dog fight scenes out of any movie I've ever seen.
Wish this had a sequel.
otra, todos los sukhoi despues del su 27, usan empuje vectorial, por lo tanto sería mucho más maniobrable en comparación de la otra aeronave
These other aircraft are fictional
nope, solo el 35 y el 57 tienen, y en práctica no afecta mucho ya que el combate moderno es mas BvR que otra cosa
son putos aviones de septima generación de ciencia ficcion. Como va a ser mas maniobrable un sukhoi de principios de los 2000'?
I see both sides were polite enough to enter a merge before fully committed into combat (disregarding the shot from Su-37)
Dude and that jet just ate 70gs. Noice….
I dont know, but SU-37 is close competitor for F-22, maybe 6th gen YF-23, since its widely known that Flankers are really good at maneuvarability
This movie is like Talon with a pro pilot up against noob in SU-37
Well, its Hollywood, nothing in Hollywood makes sense
In merge yes but in bvr the f22 should beat the su37 and these are su30s in su37 Camo there were su37 was only a tech demonstrator
SU-37 is an extremely beautifull plane, but i dont think its closer to F22. The russian avionics are great, but they suffer on the electronic side. (radar, etc)
Ладно хоть в кино они кого-то побеждают 🤣
они и в реальности могут выиграть
@@enemarian1507ничего они не могут, если бы и могли, то выиграли бы, а не рисовали мультики!
Su37 is REAL
STEALTH IS FANTASY that’s is difference between them!
From Uzbekistan 🇺🇿🫡
Ah yes, because if you're velocity is Mach going forward, and you then alter that vector by 90 degrees, what happens is you clearly turn instantly and definitely don't just become a splat on the windshield
**G-forces have left the chat**
This movie is like ace combat, but with bad story writing.
Su 37 jet are really good...
F/a-37 too
@@budgietube1895 yeah in your American Hollywood LMFAO
Everyone talking about physics…. Yet let’s be honest this movie for something that came out in 2005 is still awesome!
physics?
Su 30,Su 35 , Su 57, Su 75, and the upcoming space plane Mig 41....... they are just awesome fighter.
Блядь, этот бред на серъезных щах ещë и обсуждают😂.
Ну а как ты хотел? Эксперты мля!
That is NOT an SU-37 Terminator. That's more like an SU-30SM with SU-37 paint job camo. I've played AC7 Skies Unknown and they modeled real life plane perfectly. In the game the SU-37 only have a single seat and the cockpit is smaller than that
Ok
No it’s SU-37, even people who made the movie said it.
@@TeoDP7 the canopy size for the SU-37 should be smaller and it's a single seat, not two. And that canopy has the size of an SU-30SM and the SU-30 is two seated for both the SU-30SM and SU-30MK2
@@feston4032 this movie was made in 2005, the su30sm was not even flown until 2012
@@feston4032 Also, because it's a movie, the plane may not be modeled 100% accurately because of the cgi team. But it is an su37
This movie was way ahead of it's time and under appreciated. Today we are talking about Wingman and NGAD programs which are currently under development.
I think they should make another one or sequel involving Iran or Ukraine. Then to equal the playing field the adversary should also feature it's own highly advanced fictional air dominance fighter aircraft.
To address the issue of the aircrafts used in this scene.
1, How did the Russians detect these highly advanced American stealthy aircrafts?
2, on the issue of the American aircrafts not obeying the law of physics, I believe that is the aim of any air superiority aircraft development. We don't expect it to behave like any currently existing aircrafts including the terminators in this clip.
3, the idea behind the tech these aircrafts have is to penetrate and operate in any environment sovereign or contested with ease.
4, on the issue of the terminators 30mm gun punch holes on the Talon wasn't a true depiction. Of course it shouldn't be, cause we don't know the kid of advanced armour or body it's built with.
5, It wasn't meant to be a fair fight.
bro the planes are pulling at least 50 gs 😭
No, they pulling 50 gfs😭😭💀
1:55 - sounds like a muscle car.
It’s probably a sound effects.
Just imagine a 6+ gen imaginary fighter with AI is struggling to take down realistic Su 37s. This itself prooves the combat capabilities of Su37.😎
The su-37 never left the experimental stage
This is ace combat level of dog fight
Maybe the flying shovel had some tic tac technology that allowed it to stop, turn, and fire at like all the G forces which probably wouldnt bother an Ai but would definitely rip the air frame in half
One of the most scariest fight scene I've watched... Almost gave me a cosmic horror. Cause as the technology gets developed so fast, that can be real. But the problem is that those AIs can kill me too in battlefiled.
Yeah I wouldn’t worry about it. Even AI have to obey the laws of physics. What you see here is just not possible, no matter how advanced the technology.
So you need a fictional aircraft to defeat the Russian su 37
That's why I love Russia 😍
Crazy how this is also a movie right? 🤡
@@chimmychangus4249 yep 😂
An F-22 will destroy weak SU-37s and even SU-57s no problem. F-22 is true supermaneuvrability th-cam.com/video/YbzX7oGhm8w/w-d-xo.html
No just an F 22 raptor
@@jasontizol9007 F-35 is more than enough
There are more Su-37 in this scene than there are irl.
of course you are here, borders guy. 💀
Somehow It Landed on my Suggestion page just with Maverick Final Dog Fight Scene 😂.
PS : I watched both Films on Theater.
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It's a real shame the Su-37 crashed before it could actually enter service. Had it actually been mass-produced, there could've been at least hundreds of them serving alongside the Su-57. The Su-57 at least is basically a reincarnation of the Su-37 in a more stealthier body and better thrust vectoring.
It was just a prototype for SU-35, and SU-30, if I am not wrong about the last one name s. There are 3 or 4 surviving SU-37 now
@@soriniacoboni9983perhaps Russia kept it as a secret weapon also Russia ready to sell su 35 to india
Su-37: What Russia claims it has but doesn’t
Talon: What America claims it doesn’t have
US is always portrayed winning in the US movie, even if it must against law of physics !!
Развороты у них крутые, как на асфальте.
Да, работа ручным тормозом, коробкой и педалями 😄
Two seater SU-37?? That's new
Prolly the new su 37,5
available in movie version only
wow good to know what the huggin and muggin fight from ace combat was like from the drone's POV
A Russian aircraft losing a fight to a fictional aircraft. Who knew a decade later Stealth would be a such an accurate depiction of the current Russian air force...