It's like when Terminator from the future needed to buy a power supply at present time. Terminator enters a store: - "I need a new power supply." - "Sure sir, which type of power supply do you need?" - "Any nuclear will do."
@@AbDeRRaHiMX the rest dont tho, and as much as I love it the chernobog is a pain in the ass to get set up, press h, go round and hope you get in the right seat before you get blown up
@@untrust2033 never use chernobog in a fight if you are visible on radar, activate ghost organization and put it somewhere open so no barrier will stop ur lock on, as soon as you fire at a jet its trapped and cannot attack you unless its very close, as the missiles would hit it as soon as it stop going in circles, and even in circles it will still get hit after sometime, and i mean all jets even pyro, mk2 has 0 chance, also if u get lucky and become beast in that event, dont waste the chance get a chernobog and take out ur enemies
the sad thing is that this is even "good" i saw once a american prop plane doing a cobra breaking all physic rules for killing a bf109. like inerthia suddently drops to 0 and the gravity goes between moon and jupiter in 10 seconds my heart skipped a beat that time
Virtually all anti-air missiles, whether fired by ground installation or by another aircraft, use annular blast fragmentation to destroy or damage their target. This is a more consistent and reliable way of hitting the target rather than relying on the missile making direct physical contact. The missile's warhead is ringed with metal rods that do the actual physical damage to the target when it detonates. Detonation, again, is by proximity, not by physical contact.
With that in mind, how realistic was the missile's detonation sequence here? I'm not talking about its trajectory or never-ending fuel supply or anything like that..... just specifically the impact. How realistic was it?
Surface to air missiles don't slam into the aircraft. They have proximity fuses that cause the missile to explode next to the aircraft, releasing shrapnel.
killajakez as you said they EXPLODE, the misile in this scene dont explode it just burst slugs like a shotgun in one direction, a misile explode realising material in all directions, also misiles doesnt have that much fuel and they usually fly faster than an aircraft and the good ones turns closer
A lot of SAM's are like that. F4 pilots in Vietnam described them as Telephone pole sized shotguns. But yes, It was a little unrealistic with how long it tracked and took to hit ect. In reality if the missile misses the first time, it's pretty much done.
I know there are a LOT of errors and totally ridiculous things about this scene, BUUUUUUUUUUT, it does give the sense of the terror that a missile coming at you might cause to pilots.... plus, it's epic and super entertaining. You can't deny that!
Bravo, and thank you for pointing this out my good sir because I was thoroughly confused by this somewhat radical inspection, or critique if you must. I thought we were watching a scene from a "movie"; Yet, you would have thought these guys just discovered General James Holmes himself attemted to play this video for thousands of unsuspecting fighter pilots before their BFM! Lol... All I can say is, thank the Lord this wasn't a clip from the movie Tropic Thunder. 🤣
Gary powers history 2.0 . In the case of the film you are dead in very high probability if misile impacts plane. 5 seconds and transition to black and end of the film... ... ...
Everybody talking about the fuel while me here watching that missile just following and not hitting the target till the end of the scene finally, AND IT WASNT EVEN THE MISSLE😂😂😂
Круто. Оказывается, ракеты у 9К35 работают на антиматерии с медленной аннигиляцией, а система управления использует как минимум суперкомпьютер и несколько датчиков для различных длин электромагнитной волны. Иначе я не могу объяснить, как твердотопливная ракета может так долго летать за самолётом, причём с трудом удерживаясь по скорости у него в хвосте, но не отвлекаясь ни на какие противозенитные манёвры, ложные цели и препятствия. Повторюсь, это круто.
Mr Brown The latest fighter jets don’t get detected by sams, they don’t need to fly that low for recon. SAMs are mach 8 now but don’t get a single hit these days.
Exactly, there is currently no known missile technology that can endure that long, and that high a G Force. In theory, a drone type craft "could" do this kind of maneuvering and endurance but only at subsonic, supersonic would make the drone waste fuel faster than a dunk flushing a bottle of gin. So dramatic trick, but far from real.
I know, right? It's because it's super smart. No, missiles are infinitely faster than planes, so when they miss they overshoot and then that's it. They run out of fuel and fall from the sky.
one ,,little,, correction, this is from movie Behind enemy lines which was based on true events in Bosnia. First of all, it was not the F/A-18 but F-16 was shot down, second thing it got downed by ,,KUB 2K12,, sam sistem, not with ,,9K35 Strela-10,, and pilot was rescued after 6 days...
Uhh it's not based on the actual war. The Serbs shot down one F-16 and one F-117. The Serbs genocide is real in this movie, Fuckers killed innocent Bosnians.
Damn I love the scene where the fuselage splits and the occupants engage the ejection seat.. then the explosive bolts fire.. canopy separates, etc etc. A top notch example of something you will never ever see in real life unless you are the pilot that needs a new plane.
As a fighter pilot i can say this scene is pure fictional. Missiles typically do not “chase down” fighter jets as misrepresented in movies. An effective missile shot will have the missile reaching the aircraft with a much greater speed (like twice as fast). Once the motor burns out, the missile then glides to its target
Everyone with special knowledge will find movies silly when it crosses their expertise. I'm a chemist and the silliness that goes on in CSI😫 I don't doubt that nuclear plan workers cringe when watching The Simpsons.
This is ridiculous. Even playing a bit of flight sims tells you that: a. No missile flies like that. Once they've passed you, you're clear. b. I don't think that Master Caution goes on at a launch warning in the F-18. c. They're dropping just flares when they clearly state 'chaff', and dropping flares doesn't make any sense against a radar thread. However, I don't know how the F-18 CMS is configured. d. The typical American RWS/MWS doesn't sound like in the movie. They missed an opportunity here, too - It sounds way cooler. e. Once the F-18 is behind a mountain, the SAM breaks lock immediately and the missiles go ballistic. f. Why do they even enter the threat area with outer fuel tanks? Fuel tanks are typically dropped at fence-in (WAAAY before you're near your target), and all bomb stations should be immediately cleared if you have to be defensive (That's literally one switch, that gets thrown if you get the 'locked on' on your RWS).
You are right. However in reality a fighter jet against three SAM missiles will have a hard time no matter how advanced it is. Hollywood rarely depicts reality.
Three missiles at once isn't a problem. Most of the time, you defeat all at once with the same maneuver (if they're the same type). Three missile in short order is more difficult. It burns through countermeasures and bleeds energy because you have to counteract every one after the other. This leads to you without chaffs and flares with minimal air speed and low to the ground - then you're a sitting duck.
As a VAQ-140 maintainer...this is why we fly EA-18 Growlers...all SAM sites would've been, identified, jammed and destroyed before it even knew there was a jet in the sky.
@@janburda6749 cyberwarfare is still in development for optical/electro optical terminal guidance jamming. IR can be blinded, avoided and detected. These systems can't be jammed theoretically but threats from these sources can be minimized. As of now, optical missile systems aren't as common as heat seeking or radar detecting
@@carson3201 Well, I am still quite curious as to how a EW/SEAD would help the F-18 in the clip from being ambushed by a Strela-10 hidden in a forest.
@@janburda6749 just speaking generically, radar guided systems which are most common now would've been deemed useless. A set of flares would be enough to distract a IR sam from a strella.
Every movie is meant for a "gullible" audience then. There's no sound in space. F U STARWARS!!! DNA has a relative short lifespan. F U JURASSIC PARK!!! People in the middle ages had horrible teeth and knights were rapists. F U ALMOST EVERY KNIGHT MOVIE EVER!!! *sigh*
Can you explain to me what was happening here? The missile shot out projectiles, and did not strike the aircraft. Is this accurate? Proximity fuse? Please give me a SAM lesson, I can't find it online.
IAMGOD712007 Direct hits on fast maneuvering targets are very hard to achieve, so most air to air missiles and surface to air missiles (though not all) are equipped with some form of a proximity fuse. When the missile gets into its range, the proximity fuse detonates the missile and the shrapnel and blast from the missile are what achieve the kill. Now there are some SAMs and air to air missiles that require a direct kill, but this is considered by and large a less effective and less reliable method.
It depends on the maneuvers used to evade it, if you look at the comm trails behind the SAM it flanks around trying to intercept it, also it does depend on the missile, that model I believe is Russian so it uses over-powering speed to catch it's target, that I could be wrong on though.
SAM missiles chase your butt around, just like these are doing. They usually don't fly long enough to be able to catch the maneuvering plane. They run out of fuel...
umaxen01 So I guess it's easier for them to intercept the aircraft than following its butt around... less maneuvering, less fuel waste. If it's following the aircraft from behind, i think it would waste more fuel - more maneuvers to hit the target
***** Maybe, but if it's using over-powering speed, I guess that intercepting the aircraft is the easiest way to hit the target... but i don't know. I'm not an expert :)
the SA-13 strela missile only has range of 3 miles with a maximum speed of 1100 mph equipped with a dual mode photo contrast IR seeker head. so i think it is possible that the F-18 could dodge this missile but they have to try to break the lock.
Missile takes 3 seconds to close within 20 foot of the plane, that had a 30 second head start. Then proceeds to take 2 minutes to cover the remaining 20 feet.
I'm not an expert but, isn't the missile supposed to be faster than the plane, because the chase was really long and I don't think the missile can make turns like that.
It can't, the SA-6 is radar guided and engagements will typically last only a few seconds. It travels a lot faster than an aircraft as well. The pilots either get the radar indication and are able to release chaff an maneuver or they get hit by it- there's no extended chase in real life. It's almost disturbingly fast in actuality, and it's how the F16 this movie was based on got shot down in real life.
The missile looks like neither the 9M31 (SA-9) or the 9M37 (SA-13), although the depicted launcher is definitely an SA-13 Gopher. The max speed of the target of a 9M37 or 9M333 missile when fired rear-aspect is 1120km/h. The F/A-18 can achieve and sustain 1400km/h at very low altitude. But regardless of the speed, the missile should have been decoyed by the first volley of flares.
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haha this is a cool video but like most movies it's not realistic at all. The missile wouldn't "chase" the fighter around like that. It has a very limited amount of fuel, travels and maneuvers much faster than a jet and would just intercept the fighter at a certain point. If it missed that intercept point it would just self destruct, not try to make a big turn and go back. There's no way you could run from it like that. A more likely scenario would be that the SAM's radar is jammed. In a situation like this where he has no jamming pod or support, that F-18 would probably be screwed. That missile has radar, infrared and optical guidance so just some flares alone aren't gonna stop it.
Not only does the rocket motor never extinguish but it's also pulling 10-12 G's in the process................meanwhile disregarding all countermeasures. Fucking amazing SAM. Perhaps our military needs to consult hollywood on this amazing piece of technology!!!
The missile closes the gap between the launcher and a receding target to a 100 meters in 14 seconds. After that it chases the same target for more than a minute.
I asked a Vietnam fighter pilot about this. Quote, "You cannot out run a SAM, but you can out maneuver it. So you out maneuver it until it runs out of fuel and falls back into the jungle." In this video they now have SAM's that never ran out of fuel??
I love how the missile chases the F/A-18F Super Hornet way longer than it actually can. Another thing to note is that after missing the first time around, a missile will just crash into the ground or burn out.
@@theopot5798 a lot of militaries have SAMs , they r not exclusive to Russia. What @NoobAlike is saying that the missiles in the video are very unrealistic and over-powered.
john bonora SAM's (and most solid rockets) burn up their fuel quickly and rely partially on their inertia. This is why flares/chaff/decoys work so well: if you dodge the missile, it will not have the fuel/inertia to come back around. Additionally, the missiles move much faster than the jet, so they will not sit behind the jet following it. But... it makes for better drama :)
I believe the python-5 missile is, theoretically, capable of doubling back against a missed target. Even then it is nothing like what is shown. It only works if the aircraft is turning hard to dodge the missile. If the aircraft is flying away and just extending, the missile will have a very hard time doubling back to hit it.
2:23 is that an actual warhead? I read that modern warheads use welded rods that upon contact or close proximity would expand by explosive charge thus creating jagged circle if you will, wich would shear and shred any part of an aircraft it comes with, supposed to be extremely deadly, are there any shrapnel type warheads in use still?
99% sure thats not an actual warhead, there are a lot of variations. Something like that would be much more complicated and heavy to fit into a missile, looks like it was taken out of one of those bot narrated military voiceover channels.
Pilot" "Both tracking to the fireball! ONE DOWN! we're behind the second one, hold on while I pass it so it can come after us again!" Missile: * Does U-Turn * "Ur ass is mine bitch!" :D
Ah yes. I remember this scene. The SAM with the never-ending fuel supply.
and the unrestricted seeker gimbal that NEVER lost sight of it's mark
and how the Newtonian laws of physics just don't apply to the turning circles for a Mach3+ missile!
And the 30-second ejection sequence.
It's like when Terminator from the future needed to buy a power supply at present time. Terminator enters a store:
- "I need a new power supply."
- "Sure sir, which type of power supply do you need?"
- "Any nuclear will do."
Movie name please?
I just read that last missile was a Harvard graduate before enlisting in the Russian Air Force.
LMAOL- WELL ITS A DAMN SMART MF MISSILE
😂
Nice profile pic 😉
@@MlTGLIED who's?
@@MlTGLIED Thank you Dave
That missile has higher IQ than me.
real missile has higher IQ than author (producer). and real missile more
faster. in real pilot can dodge one time
Trump voter? Then .. yeah.
@@dsrutherford9197 Savage
Lol
The missile knows where it is, by knowing where it isn't
I keep coming back to this because it's so intense and awesome.
*knock knock*
"who's there"
"it a me, SAM"
😂😂😂😂😂😃
Knock knock
Whos there
Its DEATH
That one is so bad that it is good again xD
Hahahha
Knock knock
Who's there
SAM
SAM who?
Surface to air missile
Oh shi..
missile with an infinity amount of fuel?
Hollywood
Powered by the hopes and dreams of the sovie....... I mean "mother Russia" ....
+Skuad Kore
Wtf are you talking about surface to air missiles can follow the target for at least 5 minutes .
+Skuad Kore Powered by the anger of the Serbs...
not with that kind of maneuverability. Once the seeker head loses lock on the target, there's no way for it to somehow do a 180 and lock on again.
GTA 5 Players be like: just spin in circles lol
The way the missiles follow instead of going in a straight line and intercepting annoys me so much
Yup
@@untrust2033 chernobog missiles kinda intercept though
@@AbDeRRaHiMX the rest dont tho, and as much as I love it the chernobog is a pain in the ass to get set up, press h, go round and hope you get in the right seat before you get blown up
@@untrust2033 never use chernobog in a fight if you are visible on radar, activate ghost organization and put it somewhere open so no barrier will stop ur lock on, as soon as you fire at a jet its trapped and cannot attack you unless its very close, as the missiles would hit it as soon as it stop going in circles, and even in circles it will still get hit after sometime, and i mean all jets even pyro, mk2 has 0 chance, also if u get lucky and become beast in that event, dont waste the chance get a chernobog and take out ur enemies
I never knew that those missiles can refuel midflight.
🤣
Don't you know they run on Hollywoodium
@@nash-p while being made out of chinesium
Same way they never have to reload in gunfight scenes.
The 2nd missile was a refueling one.
Hollywood: _Makes a thrilling movie about the US military_
WT and DCS players: *_"And I took that personally"_*
the sad thing is that this is even "good"
i saw once a american prop plane doing a cobra breaking all physic rules for killing a bf109. like inerthia suddently drops to 0 and the gravity goes between moon and jupiter in 10 seconds
my heart skipped a beat that time
@G E T R E K T Is DCS worth all they money?
F18 D hornet
@@armyquite4348 F/A-18F Super Hornet
@@Fox2-Videos ohh hehehe
Non F18 hornet
F18 super hornet 💪💪
They finally did it! They created a eternal energy!
Pilot: I know some advanced maneuvers to shake this missile
*Slightly turns left*
The enemy: Wow, this guy knows some maneuvers
Family guy star wars episode
This was like a train wreck
So many things were stupid or wrong but I just couldn't look away
Gave me a good laugh
2:10 This Missel are a fucking TIE Fighter
Thus is the fate of enemies of the EMPIRE...!!!
Yush, so You heard it too :P
hahahahshshsbdkkxjdbs alien technologie
Dying right now 😂😂😂
The same weapon system that caused Harrison Ford's plane "crash" probably...
0:46 that sign saying "indicator" got me laughing for the whole video lmao
What about the missile with unlimited propellant? 😂😂
@@d.h.2509 Lol that's classic 😂
0:48 When you’re in 1st place in Mario Kart and someone fires a blue shell.
To your point. th-cam.com/video/-YRDtGM0lCw/w-d-xo.html
why not some mario kart music over this chase scene.
3:10 "Made In USA" Lol 😂😂😍😍
Virtually all anti-air missiles, whether fired by ground installation or by another aircraft, use annular blast fragmentation to destroy or damage their target. This is a more consistent and reliable way of hitting the target rather than relying on the missile making direct physical contact.
The missile's warhead is ringed with metal rods that do the actual physical damage to the target when it detonates. Detonation, again, is by proximity, not by physical contact.
With that in mind, how realistic was the missile's detonation sequence here? I'm not talking about its trajectory or never-ending fuel supply or anything like that..... just specifically the impact. How realistic was it?
The reason why you first see the iron dome explosion and then the qassam/whatever
Как с мс 17
unless its the british Rapier
So what happened in the scene
Ace Combat rules: If jinking right or left doesn't shake the missile, you're probably going to die anyways.
No its fly in circles till missile lock sounds stop.
True dat.
The GTA school of flying
OWNYOMAMA or use the mig-31 and go full-speed
Pasquale Caputi would work if the Mig could reach full speed instantly
Nobody:
Oppressor Mk2 missiles: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!
Very smooth landing. And realistic. No need to eject.
agree it's just like a normal ryanair landing
Remember this video huh?
1:28 some Star Wars sound effect.
Yeah😂
Tie fighter blaster noise
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Враг. Агон. Камадир. Никита. Ридвой. Камадир
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When you Got a Opressor MK II on you.
When ur flying around and get a Chernobog lock and suddenly you got 5 op missiles on your tail.
MK II IAM SO FUCK
DELUXO HI
STROMBERG IM ARE ONE SHARK
Jet p99 lazer Hi,iam still alive to you 3.
no it's an APC with a SAM Battery
And you're flying with Bombushka xD
You're here lol
weird missile, fly subsonic has a lot of fuel, and has fucking shotgun instead of explosives
Surface to air missiles don't slam into the aircraft. They have proximity fuses that cause the missile to explode next to the aircraft, releasing shrapnel.
killajakez as you said they EXPLODE, the misile in this scene dont explode it just burst slugs like a shotgun in one direction, a misile explode realising material in all directions, also misiles doesnt have that much fuel and they usually fly faster than an aircraft and the good ones turns closer
Yes. Depends on what kind of missile. The new generation of post Soviet SAMs can turn pretty bad ass though.
A lot of SAM's are like that. F4 pilots in Vietnam described them as Telephone pole sized shotguns.
But yes, It was a little unrealistic with how long it tracked and took to hit ect. In reality if the missile misses the first time, it's pretty much done.
Foxtrop13 not all missiles are the same dumbass...
This is absolutely one of the BEST action scenes of all time. It really put your home theater Surroundsound system to work !!!
Did you know? What is this movie name?
@@jatupongkhaykhong419 behind enemies lines
F18: Chilling on Serbian air
SAM: Surprise Madafaqa !!
In fact,it is Serbian part of Bosnia,but same time.
I don’t care what anyone says, the Egress breakdown is awesome!!!!!!!!
To all the people complaining about how unrealistic this is: Its a FUCKING MOVIE.
Byron Henry Yeah scenes from Behind Enemy Lines
+Rocker One you will regret that..
mayyaah it's probably you that will regret him becoming a fighter pilot!
0:25 as of now the IDEM camera doesn’t exist on an F/A-18F; there is however the SHARP recon pod.
That missile made Jericho missile made by Stark Industry, AI controlled by Ultron system 😂
No, it's THAAD SAM
That is a stupid-ass AI
I know there are a LOT of errors and totally ridiculous things about this scene, BUUUUUUUUUUT, it does give the sense of the terror that a missile coming at you might cause to pilots.... plus, it's epic and super entertaining. You can't deny that!
Bravo, and thank you for pointing this out my good sir because I was thoroughly confused by this somewhat radical inspection, or critique if you must.
I thought we were watching a scene from a "movie"; Yet, you would have thought these guys just discovered General James Holmes himself attemted to play this video for thousands of unsuspecting fighter pilots before their BFM! Lol... All I can say is, thank the Lord this wasn't a clip from the movie Tropic Thunder. 🤣
для всех поклонников индийского кино... 👏
@@CebastyanBoh..your the type of those guys who rise up at someones birthday party and have an never ending speech..
Gary powers history 2.0 . In the case of the film you are dead in very high probability if misile impacts plane. 5 seconds and transition to black and end of the film... ... ...
The "Made in USA" on the nose at the end got me
Everybody talking about the fuel while me here watching that missile just following and not hitting the target till the end of the scene finally, AND IT WASNT EVEN THE MISSLE😂😂😂
Radar-guided SAM on your six!
Drop flares! hehehehe
LOL
you deploy chaff for radar guided not flares
No one know what type of SAM was firing to you, So they dispense both chaff flares at the same time
Arapsaudi
indonesis
Future of war thunder
DCS now.
dixievfd55 haha yea
8.0 Ground Forces. The SA-2, SA-3, and SA-8 are all within the GF time-frame.
after the naval update i will not be suprized if they made a new tier for jets used today
Imagine we have to deal with these kind of bullshit. 4 missiles chasing you.
The solid rocket drive only burns for a maximum of 12-15 seconds, everything else is Hollywood.
depends. if it's two stages than it can be much longer. one short boost stage and one long, low thrust burn to keep the speed
Love the beginning of this movie visually effects are very realistic !👍✌️
Круто. Оказывается, ракеты у 9К35 работают на антиматерии с медленной аннигиляцией, а система управления использует как минимум суперкомпьютер и несколько датчиков для различных длин электромагнитной волны. Иначе я не могу объяснить, как твердотопливная ракета может так долго летать за самолётом, причём с трудом удерживаясь по скорости у него в хвосте, но не отвлекаясь ни на какие противозенитные манёвры, ложные цели и препятствия. Повторюсь, это круто.
These fun days are over now.
Latest SAMS don't give you a chance to show acrobats. They just give u few seconds to exit the seat
Mr Brown The latest fighter jets don’t get detected by sams, they don’t need to fly that low for recon. SAMs are mach 8 now but don’t get a single hit these days.
@@TboneI989 No man even f117 Nighthawk got killed.
Sure there's developed aircrafts which can manoeuvering against Sam's such as f35
@@TboneI989 they got s400 Sam's grand son
Reinhard Gellen LoL F35 worst? That’s why most of the worlds governments are clamouring to buy them as quickly as possible right?
Thanks to Mover now every time i see this Rhino pulling such Gs with the external tanks all i can hear is "Maintenance is gonna be pissed"
Maintenance be like: "You did WHAAAT with the external tanks on?!?!?! REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!"
yeah :)
Watching this after seeing the new top gun movie really makes you appreciate how well made it is.
The movement of the missile relative to its target is fundamentally wrong. Also, the rocket engine works for a really short time, measured in seconds.
Exactly, there is currently no known missile technology that can endure that long, and that high a G Force. In theory, a drone type craft "could" do this kind of maneuvering and endurance but only at subsonic, supersonic would make the drone waste fuel faster than a dunk flushing a bottle of gin. So dramatic trick, but far from real.
Filip Vidinovski oh sit back and enjoy it’s just TV
This is a true story, so they probably made the missile chase longer to add excitement to the movie.
Its powered by vodka. Made by papa Stalin.
F5Storm1 there is literally no missile on the planet that chases. Literally nons
i like the way how SAM slows down when it passed the plane and accelerates again
I know, right? It's because it's super smart. No, missiles are infinitely faster than planes, so when they miss they overshoot and then that's it. They run out of fuel and fall from the sky.
*Kamikaze*
@@timstich1052 how much faster than planes are they?
@@thegreat0220 Missiles can go anywhere from Mach 2.5 to Mach 5.0 depending on the missile, the altitude, the temperature, and its weight
@@Nick-jl2yp Yeah, I recently came to know s 400 missiles go mach 15 afterlaunch
one ,,little,, correction, this is from movie Behind enemy lines which was based on true events in Bosnia. First of all, it was not the F/A-18 but F-16 was shot down, second thing it got downed by ,,KUB 2K12,, sam sistem, not with ,,9K35 Strela-10,, and pilot was rescued after 6 days...
watch?v=1lRMz1H8RUg
Vuk Mistović Yes, it's right! But this movie was supported by Navy and not AirForce. That's why F-18 ;)
this is first time I have seen this video but I knew it has something to do with Bosnia , because of the mountains
it's a fucking movie
Uhh it's not based on the actual war. The Serbs shot down one F-16 and one F-117. The Serbs genocide is real in this movie, Fuckers killed innocent Bosnians.
The missiles of 9K35 System in this film have more fuel than its in real life, lol
SAMs are way faster than jets, they would catch up with the Super Hornet very easily.
Naht my uncle sam
agreed... cuz SAM is the Surface to Air Missile which mean it must faster than the target to take it down. :)
Muhd Zikry You, sir, deserve a medal. here, have my like.
Can it catch what Starscream died as in dark of the moon?
+Luis Henrique faster they are for sure, is it more manouverable too?
2:39 this is so satisfying for me :D
This is just a cutdown scene from “Behind enemy lines” if anyone was wondering
Its Done in an Awesome way!!! 🔥🔥🔥
I know this took a lot of hardwork!!!
Damn I love the scene where the fuselage splits and the occupants engage the ejection seat.. then the explosive bolts fire.. canopy separates, etc etc. A top notch example of something you will never ever see in real life unless you are the pilot that needs a new plane.
i agree.
And the plane's IBM hard drive is burned....
Underrated.
@@liveandinstereo that too.
@@liveandinstereo to protect it’s secrets I gather
ya that was very detailed ...
As a fighter pilot i can say this scene is pure fictional.
Missiles typically do not “chase down” fighter jets as misrepresented in movies. An effective missile shot will have the missile reaching the aircraft with a much greater speed (like twice as fast). Once the motor burns out, the missile then glides to its target
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@@ninopurceladze2209 Behind enemy lines
Hell yea
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Everyone with special knowledge will find movies silly when it crosses their expertise. I'm a chemist and the silliness that goes on in CSI😫
I don't doubt that nuclear plan workers cringe when watching The Simpsons.
This is ridiculous.
Even playing a bit of flight sims tells you that:
a. No missile flies like that. Once they've passed you, you're clear.
b. I don't think that Master Caution goes on at a launch warning in the F-18.
c. They're dropping just flares when they clearly state 'chaff', and dropping flares doesn't make any sense against a radar thread.
However, I don't know how the F-18 CMS is configured.
d. The typical American RWS/MWS doesn't sound like in the movie. They missed an opportunity here, too - It sounds way cooler.
e. Once the F-18 is behind a mountain, the SAM breaks lock immediately and the missiles go ballistic.
f. Why do they even enter the threat area with outer fuel tanks? Fuel tanks are typically dropped at fence-in (WAAAY before you're near your target), and all bomb stations should be immediately cleared if you have to be defensive (That's literally one switch, that gets thrown if you get the 'locked on' on your RWS).
You are right. However in reality a fighter jet against three SAM missiles will have a hard time no matter how advanced it is. Hollywood rarely depicts reality.
Three missiles at once isn't a problem. Most of the time, you defeat all at once with the same maneuver (if they're the same type).
Three missile in short order is more difficult. It burns through countermeasures and bleeds energy because you have to counteract every one after the other.
This leads to you without chaffs and flares with minimal air speed and low to the ground - then you're a sitting duck.
well that missile was infrared guided so using flares makes sense but it still said chaff. tho sonetimes chaff is deployed in conjunction with flares.
F-18 speed is about 2000 km/h
SAM missile speed is 5000+ km/h
Also, what kind of missile is that? It shoots you instead of blowing you up?
GeFlixes in very close distance like that of the movie you have very little time to avoid anything.
As a VAQ-140 maintainer...this is why we fly EA-18 Growlers...all SAM sites would've been, identified, jammed and destroyed before it even knew there was a jet in the sky.
How does one jam an optical/IR missile system?
@@janburda6749 cyberwarfare is still in development for optical/electro optical terminal guidance jamming. IR can be blinded, avoided and detected. These systems can't be jammed theoretically but threats from these sources can be minimized. As of now, optical missile systems aren't as common as heat seeking or radar detecting
@@carson3201 Well, I am still quite curious as to how a EW/SEAD would help the F-18 in the clip from being ambushed by a Strela-10 hidden in a forest.
@@janburda6749 just speaking generically, radar guided systems which are most common now would've been deemed useless. A set of flares would be enough to distract a IR sam from a strella.
It's from the movie "behind enemy lines'
Thank
SAMs fly at least at mach 3. This is meant for a gullible audience. Also, these were optical... so, there is no way the plane can survive.
Every movie is meant for a "gullible" audience then. There's no sound in space. F U STARWARS!!! DNA has a relative short lifespan. F U JURASSIC PARK!!! People in the middle ages had horrible teeth and knights were rapists. F U ALMOST EVERY KNIGHT MOVIE EVER!!! *sigh*
Can you explain to me what was happening here? The missile shot out projectiles, and did not strike the aircraft. Is this accurate? Proximity fuse? Please give me a SAM lesson, I can't find it online.
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Direct hits on fast maneuvering targets are very hard to achieve, so most air to air missiles and surface to air missiles (though not all) are equipped with some form of a proximity fuse. When the missile gets into its range, the proximity fuse detonates the missile and the shrapnel and blast from the missile are what achieve the kill. Now there are some SAMs and air to air missiles that require a direct kill, but this is considered by and large a less effective and less reliable method.
wich is the full speed of f18?
***** Yeaaaa... nobody understands that there's dozens of SAM systems out there.
you can't detect a Fox 2, it's passive-infrared. The pilot/aircraft would have no idea unless he saw it launch.
Wow haven't seen content like this in a long time!
missiles don't chase after an aircraft, they intercept it.
It depends on the maneuvers used to evade it, if you look at the comm trails behind the SAM it flanks around trying to intercept it, also it does depend on the missile, that model I believe is Russian so it uses over-powering speed to catch it's target, that I could be wrong on though.
SAM missiles chase your butt around, just like these are doing. They usually don't fly long enough to be able to catch the maneuvering plane. They run out of fuel...
umaxen01 So I guess it's easier for them to intercept the aircraft than following its butt around... less maneuvering, less fuel waste. If it's following the aircraft from behind, i think it would waste more fuel - more maneuvers to hit the target
***** Maybe, but if it's using over-powering speed, I guess that intercepting the aircraft is the easiest way to hit the target... but i don't know. I'm not an expert :)
I'm not an expert either, but with the propulsion those SAMs use would work either way within a mile, maybe, I could be mistaken on the model.
That SAM was more inteligent than George Bush.
That's not difficult.
And since when the fuck do you compare shitty politicians with good missiles? :D
That's right
if it were any smarter it would write a book.. and read it to you
Ana Paula You meant smart then Obama
the aircraft recon camera has a red light that goes on when recording starts LOL
Behind Enemy Lines was a pretty good movie.
the SA-13 strela missile only has range of 3 miles with a maximum speed of 1100 mph equipped with a dual mode photo contrast IR seeker head. so i think it is possible that the F-18 could dodge this missile but they have to try to break the lock.
I like how at 1:20 the airplane starts to crab into the turn and you can see the moment the pilot steps on the ball to correct it!
"Made in USA" .... "Destroyed in Yugoslavia"
Gawd damn... That was a Nice produced video... !
FINALLY at least a SINGLE clip when Russia can win FINALLY!!!!!
Also, the missile must run on vodka or something, never runs out!
I think, the bear inside makes additional acceleration.
XD
play War Thunder, Russia never loses. Ever.
Worlds longest burning solid fuel rocket motor.
Missile takes 3 seconds to close within 20 foot of the plane, that had a 30 second head start. Then proceeds to take 2 minutes to cover the remaining 20 feet.
they put the missile in Holywood mode
Imagine if S-400 or S-500 ?
it's a phase changing missile with quantum intrication, that's why his buddy cam so fast
Missile needs some footage & excitement before it blows itself up. Understandable
@Joe Barone Yea!! A Sam missile with a never ending fuel. Could have reached Mars.
Not bad for Hollywood standards. Excellent low level footage of the super hornet
I'm not an expert but, isn't the missile supposed to be faster than the plane, because the chase was really long and I don't think the missile can make turns like that.
It's all for Hollywood spectacle... in reality, most surface to air missiles travel many hundreds if not thousands of meters per second.
irfan123100 A lot of this wasn't very trustable. The SAM can't track like that. It doesn't do multiple attempts at attacking the plane.
It can't, the SA-6 is radar guided and engagements will typically last only a few seconds. It travels a lot faster than an aircraft as well. The pilots either get the radar indication and are able to release chaff an maneuver or they get hit by it- there's no extended chase in real life. It's almost disturbingly fast in actuality, and it's how the F16 this movie was based on got shot down in real life.
Ali Sadeq Well said.
The missile looks like neither the 9M31 (SA-9) or the 9M37 (SA-13), although the depicted launcher is definitely an SA-13 Gopher. The max speed of the target of a 9M37 or 9M333 missile when fired rear-aspect is 1120km/h. The F/A-18 can achieve and sustain 1400km/h at very low altitude. But regardless of the speed, the missile should have been decoyed by the first volley of flares.
Ah yes. They fired the SAMs that have infinite fuel and rear facing seekers.
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If that pilot it was Tom Cruise , than he will not only escape the missile , and also taking a SAM's picture.
I think this is behind the enemy lines
Realism 100
But more seriously, this is painful to watch after playing some DCS
*_Relatable 100_*
Yep, the fucking Sam always hits me
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Uuh you play DCS :)
@@julietbravo nice
that missile has more fuel than a ship
true
3 minutes is more than a ship, really!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@alastair9446 A missile doesn't have 3 minutes of fuel
haha this is a cool video but like most movies it's not realistic at all. The missile wouldn't "chase" the fighter around like that. It has a very limited amount of fuel, travels and maneuvers much faster than a jet and would just intercept the fighter at a certain point. If it missed that intercept point it would just self destruct, not try to make a big turn and go back. There's no way you could run from it like that. A more likely scenario would be that the SAM's radar is jammed. In a situation like this where he has no jamming pod or support, that F-18 would probably be screwed. That missile has radar, infrared and optical guidance so just some flares alone aren't gonna stop it.
An F18 nearly keeping pace with missiles? Thats a riot.
FOR EVERYONE WHO SAID "A SAM IS MORE FAST THAN F-18", IT'S A FUCKING FILM
2:25 a moment when You realize that there is a justice in the world... 😎😎😎
Top Gun Maverick 11 years before it got released. But with infinite fuel SAMs that go at the same speed as an F-18 😭
Not only does the rocket motor never extinguish but it's also pulling 10-12 G's in the process................meanwhile disregarding all countermeasures. Fucking amazing SAM. Perhaps our military needs to consult hollywood on this amazing piece of technology!!!
The missile closes the gap between the launcher and a receding target to a 100 meters in 14 seconds. After that it chases the same target for more than a minute.
1:51 like dat sound of the second tank hitting the ground
I asked a Vietnam fighter pilot about this. Quote, "You cannot out run a SAM, but you can out maneuver it. So you out maneuver it until it runs out of fuel and falls back into the jungle."
In this video they now have SAM's that never ran out of fuel??
I love how the missile chases the F/A-18F Super Hornet way longer than it actually can. Another thing to note is that after missing the first time around, a missile will just crash into the ground or burn out.
Its powered by vodka. Made by Stalin. #motherrussia
Not a Super Hornet. This is an old film, Behind Enemy Lines.
@@crableg2128 😂🤣👍на русской водке
If a missile like that existed, we'd have no wars
not with Russia... they have SAMs
@@theopot5798 a lot of militaries have SAMs , they r not exclusive to Russia.
What @NoobAlike is saying that the missiles in the video are very unrealistic and over-powered.
Missiles be like: "I get you, I GET you!"
These SAM missiles chase f18 sounds like 2 eagles chase their prey in the air
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This is how it feels when you're in a f/a-18c in dcs and getting bullied by a su-27 and a mig-29
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Motainnu Exe f-35’s and f-22’s rule
Tbh i like them both
@@sabercooler5024 F-14s and F-15s rule.
F18 vs MiG29
F15 vs SU27
SAM AA missles do not have that range... anyway..movies are movies
Yes they do, some modern SAM systems have range in excess of 400km.
john bonora SAM's (and most solid rockets) burn up their fuel quickly and rely partially on their inertia. This is why flares/chaff/decoys work so well: if you dodge the missile, it will not have the fuel/inertia to come back around. Additionally, the missiles move much faster than the jet, so they will not sit behind the jet following it.
But... it makes for better drama :)
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Sure, but what im saying is that many SAM systems do actually have the range and fuel capacity to travel the distance shown in this vid.
The distance, perhaps, but not the maneuverability (following the plane).
your absolutely right.
Never knew a SAM could fly that long. It can't.
Missile actually doesn’t work like that, they only have one chance or they’ll miss so they usually highly precise
Hollywood movie, so... it can shot to the moon :)
Straight to the Apollo🤣
I believe the python-5 missile is, theoretically, capable of doubling back against a missed target. Even then it is nothing like what is shown. It only works if the aircraft is turning hard to dodge the missile. If the aircraft is flying away and just extending, the missile will have a very hard time doubling back to hit it.
2:23 is that an actual warhead? I read that modern warheads use welded rods that upon contact or close proximity would expand by explosive charge thus creating jagged circle if you will, wich would shear and shred any part of an aircraft it comes with, supposed to be extremely deadly, are there any shrapnel type warheads in use still?
99% sure thats not an actual warhead, there are a lot of variations. Something like that would be much more complicated and heavy to fit into a missile, looks like it was taken out of one of those bot narrated military voiceover channels.
So this is what it looks like when *the missile knows where it is*
Pilot" "Both tracking to the fireball! ONE DOWN! we're behind the second one, hold on while I pass it so it can come after us again!"
Missile: * Does U-Turn * "Ur ass is mine bitch!" :D
F18 F Super Hornet : one of the world most advanced fighter..
Common SAM : Hold my beer..
"talk to me, Goose"
When lightning McQueen flies for the navy:
Haha, excellent reference
"Over Macho Grande?"
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