Historian & Armor Expert Reacts to Total War: Warhammer 3

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
  • Tobias Capwell is an independent scholar, curator, an expert on arms and armor, as well as a historical advisor for movies and TV.
    Today Toby is joining us to break down some of the factions from Total War: Warhammer 3, including the Dwarfs, Skaven, Grand Cathay, Vampire Counts, Kislev and assorted Chaos Warriors units.
    Toby Capwell is an American historian who lives and works in London. His principal interest is in European arms and armor of the medieval and Renaissance periods. He has written and spoken extensively on both the historical and the practical aspects of his subject.
    00:00 Intro
    00:39 Grand Cathay
    04:17 Chaos Warriors
    08:50 Dwarfs
    12:48 Kislev
    17:30 Skaven
    20:23 Vampire Counts
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  • @IrregularDave
    @IrregularDave 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +788

    Getting to make TWO Warhammer videos BACK TO BACK? Say it ain't so!
    In all seriousness, as a huge fan of Warhammer I love making this kind of stuff, and I'd like to extend another thank you to Toby for joining us on the video!
    If you want to see us break down more of the Warhammer universes, make sure to like the video and all that good stuff! ❤️

    • @2prize
      @2prize 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      reupload your old vids please 😭😭😭

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@2prize no. They're cringe.

    • @lilkobabunga
      @lilkobabunga 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Do Elves and the Lizardmen as well, I want to see his opinion on Aztec Dinosaurs.

    • @2prize
      @2prize 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IrregularDave you were my entire childhood😭😭😭

    • @leapofaith97
      @leapofaith97 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You've got to show him the Lizardmen, I need to know how he feels about dino cavalry.

  • @Slavesforsale1
    @Slavesforsale1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +785

    18:45 "Oh, like a hamster wheel?"
    I hate the fact that I NEVER noticed that the Skaven Doomwheel is literally just a hamster wheel.

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      I felt the same way when he said it!

    • @leadpaintchips9461
      @leadpaintchips9461 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

      What's even better is that it's supposed to be ran by two Skaven inside who are 'motivated' into running by absolutely _smothering_ them with warpdust.

    • @YouCaughtCzars
      @YouCaughtCzars 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      ​@@leadpaintchips9461if you look closely at the in game model and the real life miniature, the bottom of the wheel has a bunch of giant rats in it. You can kind of see it in the clip.
      Sometimes the rats get irritated and attack the warlock engineer piloting it lol

    • @leadpaintchips9461
      @leadpaintchips9461 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@YouCaughtCzars I love that part of this unit.

    • @brdjones3732
      @brdjones3732 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bruh

  • @gstellar96
    @gstellar96 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1081

    My favorite aspect of Warhammer Fantasy has always been how these various depictions of human cultures merge with their mythologies to do battle with your classic high fantasy dwarfs, elves, orcs, demons, and undead. It keeps a very fantastical setting grounded and makes it feel very lived in while still having dragons and magic.

    • @TaRAAASHBAGS
      @TaRAAASHBAGS 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Except they did that monumentally better in 5e and 6e than now.
      Nu-Kislev has been degraded to ice, bears, and ESG checklists.

    • @HB-fq9nn
      @HB-fq9nn 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@TaRAAASHBAGS What’s ESG?

    • @gstellar96
      @gstellar96 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @TaRAAASHBAGS While true, there's definitely too much emphasis on only bears. I wouldn't say it's a monumental loss compared to 5th and 6th and the models do look really good from the armor, uniforms, weapons,voice overs, magic, and it's been pretty universally accepted among the Eastern Europe fans from what I have been able to see from the online community.

    • @npierce14
      @npierce14 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      African people: 😔

    • @gearsandstars2489
      @gearsandstars2489 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@@npierce14Uh hello? Beastmen?

  • @peterebel
    @peterebel 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +165

    This feels a little bit like a kid showing his favourite toys to his cool uncle.

  • @sbart23
    @sbart23 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +574

    The historical accuracy can be largely credited to Perry twins who designed and sculpted miniatures for Warhammer for over 35 years and are nuts about historical reenactment (one of them lost an arm while loading up a reproduction of a medieval cannon during a recreation of Battle of Crecy).

    • @JoshIdstein
      @JoshIdstein 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

      he lost an arm loading a cannon?! now THATS metal.

    • @AbenZin1
      @AbenZin1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +125

      @@JoshIdstein Yep, and then learned to sculpt with his other hand, using a vice built into his prosthetic!

    • @silverhand9965
      @silverhand9965 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

      real Skaven behaviour

    • @vladimirthegreen6097
      @vladimirthegreen6097 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Badass

    • @cerocero2817
      @cerocero2817 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      They have their own range of historical miniatures. Their knights are probably the most detailed and historically accurate on the market.

  • @TaRAAASHBAGS
    @TaRAAASHBAGS 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +584

    I love how excited he was when he heard a unit had slings.
    Very underrepresented fantasy weapon. Extremely practical.

    • @loowick4074
      @loowick4074 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

      The same army is bringing slings and sticks and machine guns and mini nukes to a battle 😂

    • @almister
      @almister 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@loowick4074yesyes

    • @JacoDeltaco
      @JacoDeltaco 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      @@loowick4074 honestly I would rather have a sling than touch there guns with how unstable they are

    • @PhantomJavelin
      @PhantomJavelin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@loowick4074 Well, there's a whole lot more rats than there are guns.

    • @bosknight7837
      @bosknight7837 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@loowick4074based-grounded and skaven-pilled yes yes

  • @thespudofspuds8798
    @thespudofspuds8798 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +579

    Regarding Tobais's statements about how Warhammer doesn't bug him for having all this wild ornamentation and stuff: it's not just committing to the bit. It's about committing to being *fantastical*. Designs are meant to be reminiscent of real world history/armor, but real history doesn't have giant half-dragon half-ogres wielding clubs the size of minivans, so it's good to go all the way and embrace being a Heavy Metal album cover.

    • @kaythough9604
      @kaythough9604 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      I think if you learn a bit about the universe and know that belief can be strength, all of a sudden the ornamentation starts to make a bit more sense. If you know that your devotion to Khorne can make you more powerful, attaching a few skulls to your armor might start seeming like a better idea.

    • @silverhand9965
      @silverhand9965 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@kaythough9604 Yeah, it doesn't need to actually work, it just needs to make you believe that it does.
      Sure, you're probably going to get cleaved in half by a bloodthirster with or without an extra shiny armour, but in less severe cases, it might just save your life

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      You have to embrace the full send

    • @berkekaradag1410
      @berkekaradag1410 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thats why i love Warhammer. It embraces what it is.

    • @andrewdussault2315
      @andrewdussault2315 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      and the ornamentaion is not arbitrary, but reflects a culture and history, and exaggerates it a bit. i feel a lot of fantasy games have overly designed armor and arms that have not sense of context or history, and subsequently end up looking bland or unreal.

  • @SendBreadPics
    @SendBreadPics 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +249

    Gotta love when the experts can break down the realism but also understand what fantasy is.

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      🍞

    • @QuantumHistorian
      @QuantumHistorian 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      It's what happens when you bring in someone who is as much an artist as a historian.

  • @ButchJustice
    @ButchJustice 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +183

    I feel like I could watch Tobias talk about all the factions for well over an hour or two.
    He grasps the parallels and the understanding of necessary design without even seeing the cause for the effect; axe on a musket being needed when you are shooting at literal charging demons that can sometimes shrug off a round but are less receptive to an axe wound.

    • @Pedro-zu3uq
      @Pedro-zu3uq 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Honestly I would watch a 12 episodes series of him talking about fantasy lol.

    • @Teslijah
      @Teslijah 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Axe muskets were a real thing. I visited the army museum in Paris, and there were two of those weapons. One was a halberd with multiple rifle barrels. And the other was a spear with three barrels around the spearhead.
      I don’t know if they were ever used, but maybe they were supposed to catch on armor, then fire into the knight.
      Although, the ones I saw had the barrels open to the blade of the axe or spear.

    • @bosknight7837
      @bosknight7837 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TeslijahMuskets sometimes had axes attached,BUT using something like a bardiche as a musket stand was quite widespread. So,not even that unrealistic

  • @evejunkie1942
    @evejunkie1942 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    The best part about Tobias as an expert is he's not just critiquing the arms and armor from a historical perspective, he's putting it in context of a fantasy video game setting and taking that into account. It's so great to see.

  • @grillmeisterkush6396
    @grillmeisterkush6396 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +123

    "There are no half measures. Everything is as far as it can go." Yup. That's warhammer and why we love it so much.

  • @martincann5052
    @martincann5052 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +291

    Regarding the the gyrocopters: I recall from the Grudge of Drong campaign pack in the nineties that only Dwarf Brewmasters know how to make the fuel for gyrocopters, which would seem to indicate that it's alcoholic in some way. That said, oil is also a thing in Warhammer, as shown in the Gotrek and Felix series, but it's not very well understood, and only Dwarfs use it in any way.

    • @transorm987
      @transorm987 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      It's implied that dwarfs will, in emergencies, use their extremely strong ale to power things. Though they seem to have an even stronger version that they use as fuel.

    • @kanrakucheese
      @kanrakucheese 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      For what it's worth, pure alcohol is also a main component of biodiesel alongside fats.

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      "Oil is for lubricating things, alcohol is for fueling things" might be the Dwarven way, with thier own bodies being no exception if they've taken sufficient cues from Tolkien type dwarfs ("a Dwarf's true friends are their flasks and tankards" sort of thinking).
      EDIT: Of course, this has real world precedent, Top Fuel Dragsters use fuel that is literally a specific blend of Nitromethane and Methanol (which despite being toxic, is an extremely high octane fuel in piston engines, and turbine engines will run on it too if the fuel pump and injectors can keep up with the higher fuel flow needed, or operate at a derated power level).

    • @Woodclaw
      @Woodclaw 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I remember the gyrocopter flavour text from 6th edition stating that the engine is alcohol powered (just like the pilot).

    • @shmekelfreckles8157
      @shmekelfreckles8157 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@44R0Ndinin the game as dwarfs you can forge an enchanted item for your characters called Ironwarden’s Tankard, gives them “Immune to psychology” and healing when at high enough morale. So yeah, alcoholism sometimes helps.

  • @lyooyiylklykyokyklky
    @lyooyiylklykyokyklky 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +240

    Anything with Dr. Capwell in is going to be an instant watch from me, he is such a fantastic source of info.

  • @oooeee5556
    @oooeee5556 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +232

    25:20 pretty sure those are Royal Pegasus Knights of Bretonnia, the reasons why they specifically don't carry bombs is because it goes against their troths and oaths and the knights consider ranged weaponry to be something only peasents use

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

      I bet a Pegasus pooping from 130 feet up isn't very knightly.

    • @catodes1295
      @catodes1295 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah, he's looking in the wrong place if he wants flying creatures that carry and drop bombs

    • @ComissarYarrick
      @ComissarYarrick 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Lorewise Bretonia is all about chivarly and ranged weapon are concidred "ungentlemany" and threted with disdain. There is also religious/social taboo about useing guns on bretonian soil. Their navy has a lots of cannons tho :D

    • @wmandthings
      @wmandthings 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@ComissarYarrickBretonian Bombards are a thing again in The Old World I believe

    • @LeoNardo-wm7ug
      @LeoNardo-wm7ug 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@wmandthingsThey are, but they’re for exiled knights/border princes. So moreso disgraced knights

  • @Caldwing
    @Caldwing 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +132

    The vampire counts are indeed modelled as basically dead Empire (Germanic) soldiers of various kinds. I have often wished they could get different models when they raise dead in different cultures. No need for a stat change just Bretonnian or Kislevite clothes/armour.

    • @loganwallace101
      @loganwallace101 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That is such a good idea it would look amazing

    • @20storiesunder
      @20storiesunder 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      There's an amazing mod called necromancy that does something similar.

    • @scarystories1800
      @scarystories1800 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      There is a reskin mod for the zombies like that, and a necromancy mod that lets you raise skeletons of different units like the monsters

    • @TheGingusa
      @TheGingusa 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @caldwing theres a mod for undead factions that lets you raise skeletons themed after the faction you recently battled, and the ai uses it too. i attacked some undead who have been fighting dwarves and they had skeleton dwarves in their army edit: i just realized the others said it too lol

    • @Regarded69
      @Regarded69 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Just a nitpick, I would say HRE (Holy Roman Empire) and not Germanic, since ''Germanic'' can refer to a massive timespan and the HRE also included cultures like the Czechs and Sorbians that are Slavic and Walloons that are French but all used the same style of armour, fashion and weapons in the 16th centuary ☝🤓

  • @Ake-TL
    @Ake-TL 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +220

    13:52 “Especially from cavalry”
    Gets run over by a ship on land.
    What a great timing

    • @AshenVictor
      @AshenVictor 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      Look CA just really didn't want to do naval battles so the ships have to have legs or wheels.

    • @jamesdale6792
      @jamesdale6792 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I had a good chuckle at that part 😂😂

  • @samueltrusik3251
    @samueltrusik3251 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    I am super glad you have someone who knows the game side of the game explain the things happening on the screen, so that the professional is not confused.

  • @Empiriarch1945
    @Empiriarch1945 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Him reacting to Elves, wood elves, dark elves, lizardmen, tomb kings would be really cool.

  • @SarahExpereinceRequiem
    @SarahExpereinceRequiem 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    A lot of the older minis were sculpted by people who were into historical war games, especially Michael and Alan Perry (who now run Perry Miniatures). They were known for making things "historical" even when they were asked to make something more fantasy. The reason that the chaos dwarves are the way they are is that they were told, repeatedly to not make the hats historical. Make it more fantasy. And boy did they. I think the influence they've had on the aesthetic has carried over to things they never touched like Cathay and Kislev.

    • @silviuvisan505
      @silviuvisan505 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think their helmets are inspired by mesototamian ancient cultures.

  • @knightmareofGOD
    @knightmareofGOD 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Took Dr. Capwell pointing out the Skaven shield shape being non-human for me to think why they'd be that shape and they remind me of one of the Skaven symbols from Vermintide which might explain it

    • @m41282
      @m41282 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Yeah, the symbol of the 3 horned rat. It's a conserved motif across most of the faction.

    • @Srymak
      @Srymak 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      its basically like having a crusader with a cross painted on their shield, taken to the fantasy extreme of having a cross shield

    • @Duke_of_Quenelles
      @Duke_of_Quenelles 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And if you think about it. Skaven shields being triangles makes more sense than not. Since it would cover most of their body, due to their prominent hunch, and the weight distribution wouldn’t be as bad for a skaven as say a Norman kite shield would be.
      If you have complaints on my grammar, I’m tired.

  • @connorbozynski1006
    @connorbozynski1006 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    His comment of about the dwarf weapons and armor feeling architectural and almost like tools reminded of how during ww2, the usa made their hand grenades closer to t he shape of a baseball so new recruits were more comfortable throwing them. I imagine a similar logic is used by the dwarves. If EVERYONE in your society knows how to swing a hammer from forging and building or knows how to swing an axe because of logging or again building and cutting wood, making your primary military arsenal out of those same types of shapes could be really useful for training.

    • @Teslijah
      @Teslijah 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Their weakest melee unit carry pickaxes, right?

    • @screamingcactus1753
      @screamingcactus1753 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@Teslijah Yeah. They aren't dedicated warriors, they're actual miners going into battle with their tools. They can even use blasting charges as improvised grenades and get vanguard deployment to emulate them literally tunneling under the battlefield to come up where the enemy doesn't expect them.

    • @Kar-WoLi
      @Kar-WoLi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@screamingcactus1753 Well somehow most of the Dwarf Warriors are not dedicated Warriors. More like a Militia. If they were called to arms, the left everything behind, go to battle, and after the fight is over, they go back to whatever they were doing. But some are really Warriors like the Ironbreaker or Hammerers.

  • @louisbrandthansen4517
    @louisbrandthansen4517 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +81

    I'm so glad you got him back, 1 minute in and he's already great!

  • @QuantumHistorian
    @QuantumHistorian 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Capwell's artist side really comes through here. It's delightful to hear from someone who understands arms & armour well enough to know how form fits function, but who is enough of an artist to understand that the feelings evoked by how something is represented is the more important than direct plausibility in a game (especially in a fantasy setting). It's a perfect fusion of knowledge that makes the final analysis very insightful without being snobbish at all. More of him please!

  • @dud5606
    @dud5606 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    As for the Polish Hussars, it is believed that aside from their wings looking cool they also made a terryfying thundering sound when hundreds of hussars at once would charge on horseback.

    • @MPostma72
      @MPostma72 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      You don't need wings for that, hunderds of horses charging at you will make a thundering sound with their hooves.

    • @adamnowicki1425
      @adamnowicki1425 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      there is quite a lot of discussion about it, I heard the thundering noise came from flags on lances, also Poland had amazing technology of... making longer sticks, hussar lances were allegedly way longer than any pikes commonly used on battlefields, also wings were attached to saddles, not rider backs and mostly for decorative purpose during parades etc, not on battlefields

  • @PilgrimEnge
    @PilgrimEnge 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    23:02 He makes SUCH an excellent summary of the view I have on Fantasy, especially that bit about the lazy argument of "In fantasy you can do whatever you want".

  • @nakenmil
    @nakenmil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    One of the reasons why Warhammer Fantasy appealed to me so much more than Age of Sigmar, as a world, was that Fantasy was much more anchored. It had ordinary spearmen and swordsmen, who were basically just regular people. Then you could BUILD FROM THAT to show how terrifying Chaos Chosen were, or Ogres or whatever. But with the launch of AoS, they kept all the attention on the Stormcast and others similarly exaggerated groups, like the new Ironjawz or the ghost guys or Fyreslayers, etc. so it all felt so disconnected from anything with verisimillitude. It was like slapping action figures together, there was no meat to it, imho. I'm glad Age of Sigmar has introduced setting-specific regular dudes now (I mean, they had the leftover Imperial models previously, but they never promoted them, obviously), so maybe I'll start feeling like it's not so theatrical.

    • @reaver11122
      @reaver11122 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      While I somewhat agree with you, I think it's also conserved in AoS. The Cities of Sigmar are just people doing their best

    • @snakehead7529
      @snakehead7529 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’d say listen or read the Slayer series with Gotrek as it does show more of the regular people and how stormcasts while good have their faults and can be killed by orcs or basically anything

  • @arcticfox5769
    @arcticfox5769 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    one of my favorite things about playing kislev is the war bear riders are meant to fight in the frontlines like heavy infantry and your winged hussars are used for shock tactics. so i often use my bear riders to hold up chaos heavies and then come around and smash them with the hussars.

  • @pierre-mariecaulliez6285
    @pierre-mariecaulliez6285 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Next up : Tomb "I brough a door to battle" kings, and comparing High, Dark and Wood elves ;7

  • @RYUcaEU
    @RYUcaEU 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    God i can't describe how much i love Grand Cathay's design/armors/unit style. The ancient chinese empire is just beautiful and i love the fact that this historian guy actually confirmed that all cathay units they showed him are totally accurated to ancient chinese armory/weapons❤️

    • @leadpaintchips9461
      @leadpaintchips9461 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      TBF he was talking at the time that they were showing them that it was a fantastical version of their arms/armor, or a logical extension of reality.

    • @RYUcaEU
      @RYUcaEU 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@leadpaintchips9461 yes, with "accurate" i meant relatable to their real historical weaponry/armory/etc

    • @idum7177
      @idum7177 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Eh I commented on this topic - as an enthusiast of Chinese history (esp. Song/Ming), I was pleasantly surprised when the units were revealed. If anything they tend to be on the light side of what historical Song/Ming armies would have worn, but remain very close (including the collar piece he discussed about, although the IRL version was actually more advanced than the one shown for Cathay).
      Only drawback IMHO is the aesthetics of some of the gunpowder weapons, particularly the cannons and iron hail guns considering there were plenty of IMHO better-looking examples to pull from. I also find the Dragons a bit too "short", but I understand they may want to depart from the traditional representation.

    • @marcog.verbruggen674
      @marcog.verbruggen674 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RYUcaEU The word you're looking for is "verisimilitude" or "verisimilar" - which, as you may be able to tell just from reading it, describes something that while not *accurate* to reality, carries that feeling of accuracy in its own way :)

  • @Jaggaraz218
    @Jaggaraz218 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    I was surprised that he didn't immediately mention the real life axe guns when Kislev came up

    • @vladimirthegreen6097
      @vladimirthegreen6097 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeap. I see a couple of similar weapon in Moscow museum

    • @kirkwells5134
      @kirkwells5134 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I was awaiting mention of the Streltsi who used a combination of poleaxes and firearms to conquer the steppe. Ah well.

    • @phill2065
      @phill2065 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably outside his scope of expertise since he focuses on Europe mainly

    • @vladimirthegreen6097
      @vladimirthegreen6097 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@phill2065 Eastern Europe is still Europe

    • @vladimirthegreen6097
      @vladimirthegreen6097 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kirkwells5134 they didn't conquer the steppe.

  • @Vanq17
    @Vanq17 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Wow, I think Tobias finally captured what has bothered me about Age of Sigmar all this time. Old Warhammer Fantasy was of course fantasy, but it felt plausible. Age of Sigmar goes all in on the fantasy aspect and just doesnt feel quite as plausible anymore. The AoS models all look fantastic, but its just too much.

    • @grimalkin8082
      @grimalkin8082 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Lets be honest, AOS was made when the MCU was taking off, and GW just wanted to capitalize on that cash grab. Unfortunately it came at the cost of a much better setting. Warhammer fantasy is timeless and can stand on it's own because of how grounded it is, and the problem with cash grabs is they need to be constantly kept afloat or they sink fast.

    • @CantankaGrin
      @CantankaGrin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I don't see what it has to do with the MCU. It's more to do with the fact that in 40K space marines outsell everything and they wanted more of that. They just didn't care that it doesn't really fit in a fantasy setting. It's actually worse than 40K as at least they have the Imperial guard to compare against.

    • @alexalex4041
      @alexalex4041 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@grimalkin8082 AOS has absolutely nothing to do with the MCU. The GW suits were trying for years to put Space marines into WFB because they sold like crazy, they didn't care that it was out of place, cue the Sigmarines. GW were also very protective of their IP and coming out of their lawsuit loss to Chapterhouse (or at least not the crushing defeat they wanted), so they basically nuked the un-copyrightable Old World and rebranded everything with silly copyrightable names like Orruks.

  • @noelspillis6734
    @noelspillis6734 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My favorite thing so far is that he talls about how similar the lore and such to actual design and structure when the makers of Warhammer have said "we love to steal from history"

  • @sirshotty7689
    @sirshotty7689 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    There’s one thing I really love about Sylvania and it’s that it’s derived as much from actual Romanian history as it is from the mythology of vampires. For instance, one of the order of blood knights in Sylvania are called the Order of the Blood Dragons. They were inspired by the real life Order of the Dragon which Vlad Dracul, father of Vlad Tepes (aka Dracula), was a part of. I don’t really get that with a lot of other vampire myth interpretations.

  • @Vimes1982
    @Vimes1982 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I've been watching Tobias Capwell's older lectures recently. You've got to love the humor behind all the knowledge.

  • @CrossedKatana
    @CrossedKatana 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have always apreciated grounded fantasy. I often found them more compelling than ones that go completely out there. I think its a real show of skill when creators can pull off such effective suspension of disbelief.

  • @Scandic45
    @Scandic45 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The fact you comment and inform him on the units , their names a little Lore helps the reaction so much since it gives context. Makes the experience so much more enjoyable.

  • @captainmckeggor
    @captainmckeggor 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact bombs he drops at the end needs to be blasted on full volume for modern show makers and game developers to hear.

  • @tobiashagstrom4168
    @tobiashagstrom4168 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Yeah, the guy does articulate a lot of the things I like about Warhammer that I haven't seen done as effectively in other settings. That sense that even some of the wackier elements have a purpose and a context to them, that the cultures have their own ways of thinking, their own ways to solve problems.

  • @NaamaMajava
    @NaamaMajava 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I hope we will see him in another episode for Total War Warhammer!

  • @Mastercheap
    @Mastercheap 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    5:20 If you put spike everywhere, your will eventually put one where it is useful

  • @deadlyydude5522
    @deadlyydude5522 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    this guy nailed what makes warhammer so special. Fantasy that has bits of history sprinkled in

  • @keegobricks9734
    @keegobricks9734 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    @5:30 As the Mekboy from Dawn of war 2 said "More 'umies, more prayin! Just wiff spikes dis time"

  • @archthrone5815
    @archthrone5815 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Definitely need more parts of this! Ogres! Dark Elves, High elves, wood elves, lizard men, vampire coast etc!

  • @Zacho5
    @Zacho5 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Its easy to see CAs work on real historical games have really elevated Warhammer art. Nice to see someone that gets it.

  • @lotfj
    @lotfj 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am literally playing this right now and I hope we get to see my favorites: Kislev!

  • @KanuckStreams
    @KanuckStreams 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fun fact! There are historical examples of "axe guns", although they were not widely spread because they were kind of more of a "hey look at this novel idea" rather than the simpler solution of "put a bayonet on the end of your musket and now you have a short spear."

  • @jossypoo
    @jossypoo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm so glad we've reached the era where a video about historical accuracy can have an expert that ACKNOWLEDGES that fantasy involves imagination and creative license.

  • @umbrum2
    @umbrum2 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Skaven triangle shields are based on the skaven symbol which is based on the shape of a rats head

  • @Luizguilherme-iz9yl
    @Luizguilherme-iz9yl 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    BTW how he said the thing about the vampires and landsknecht was sooooo cool

  • @daroth7127
    @daroth7127 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Please show him the 3 types of elves and their armored units! especially the spearmen from each elf faction!

  • @MegaNever2010
    @MegaNever2010 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Always nice to see Tobias talking about Fantasy elements, while understanding that they're fantastically historical in a way. ( Also nice to see my comment from last time helped with the camera work ;p )

  • @Icetubexd
    @Icetubexd 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I didn't really expect much going into this video. Fantasy Armour, especially Warhammer, is so fantastical that I thought a historian couldn't give much input or would be put off by the material. However this video was surprisingly really enjoyable, Tobias observations about the nature of armaments, design and his little tangent on appreciating the scale of the game were very entertaining. I liked that you kept the little exchanges between the producer and the historian in the video as well, very good content.

  • @sweracoon7931
    @sweracoon7931 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Toby's take on the Vampire Counts being the undead of the Empire is actually bang on, seeing as Sylvania is in fact a province of the Empire.

  • @FungWarb12
    @FungWarb12 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    19:36 I think the reason Stormvermin have triangular shields is because that's a "Symbol of the Horned Rat, which signifies not only the deity of the Skaven but also the Skaven race as a whole."

  • @perrenchan6600
    @perrenchan6600 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    More! More Tobias! More warhammer! MORE!!!
    Having Jason and Tobias review the space marine armouring sequence would be a dream come true.

  • @Shinobito1
    @Shinobito1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    To be fair, Chaos Armour is magical and it adapts to an mutation and/or change that occurs in the wearer. So if a warrior grow a horn or something else, his armour will change to accomodate it.

  • @AveMandrakon
    @AveMandrakon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    16:31 regarding the purpose, it was twofold as far as I recall - first was to instill terror in the enemies, as the sound of such an amount on feathers created a disorienting humming noise, and the second, more practical, was to foil any attempt at dragging the rider off the horse by using anything akin to a lasso, mainly then used by ottoman janissaries, which was one of the most feared units of that period - it was said the wings caused the noose to slide off much more easily, or even "catch" an incoming one entirely, when mounted to the saddle instead of the back of the soldier.

  • @nathanduncan6919
    @nathanduncan6919 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Toby has a great deal of understanding and quite a nuanced take on most of these designs. Its really interesting to see his perspective!

  • @Medard22
    @Medard22 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This man is speaking facts especially with the rules!
    Should've shown him some lizardmen too!!!

  • @awestruckcardboard3431
    @awestruckcardboard3431 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Love how the Slavs, Germans, And french from the 1100s to 1600s were teleported to Elfs, Dwarfs, and Greenskins, With Chaos Gods there.

  • @bmoney2011
    @bmoney2011 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Just before the 5 minute mark (starting around 4:49) he inadvertently gives the entire game away in regards to the Warhammer universe;
    "It's like they're so committed to what they're doing...there are no half-measures."
    That's essentially the ethos behind all of Warhammer.

  • @purplefood1
    @purplefood1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I like this guy, I totally agree with what he says about internal consistency.

  • @jorgeluismarchesini6482
    @jorgeluismarchesini6482 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's very gratifying to see a historian's reaction to Warhammer Total War!
    Please make more videos of him reacting to other factions!

  • @AwesomeLionSaurus
    @AwesomeLionSaurus 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This was a great video. The expert explained things really well, but was open minded about the fantasy setting and viewing it for what it is. Really agree with his argument about fantasy still needs to be grounded. Absolutely great take!

  • @Crytica.
    @Crytica. 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This man who never played this game ever encaptures exactly what we love about Warhammer fantasy and what Warhammer tries to convey. Loved this video with him as usual!

  • @AngryLemon19
    @AngryLemon19 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun fact about the goblins tied to the stones. They do that because it settles a grudge the dwarfs have against goblins and because the goblin screaming as it falls gives the same effect as a whistle on a dive bomber

  • @zjjohnson3827
    @zjjohnson3827 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    17:07 the Narnia reference made my day

  • @Joker-yw9hl
    @Joker-yw9hl 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like that he seems genuinely into this

  • @jamesnigelkunjuro12
    @jamesnigelkunjuro12 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having people like Toby Capwell and Jonathan Ferguson who respect and appreciate the Fantasical aspects and reasoning for the equipment and gear make it super fun to listen to their analysis of video game mechanics :) love seeing them featured.

  • @awsomesaucekirby
    @awsomesaucekirby 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love lizardmen ptero riders.
    They do do bombardments, just with *massive rocks*.
    They famously killed Belakor with rocks in a White Dwarf after action report

  • @yannichudziak9942
    @yannichudziak9942 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A lot of the studio staff have access to huge libraries of mediieval and historical books, even compilations of art work and such.

  • @TorvusVae
    @TorvusVae 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to see more videos with you and Toby!

  • @helafinwe
    @helafinwe 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really like this guy. Do you think you could do another Warhammer video with him showcasing Chaos Dwarfs

  • @wiaf8937
    @wiaf8937 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very interesting. thanks for recording this.

  • @MeanBeanComedy
    @MeanBeanComedy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wait, Tobias isn't just an Expert on European arms?? He's just an Arms Expert in general? That's so cool!

  • @jackiekennedy4902
    @jackiekennedy4902 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Could listen to Toby for hours

  • @haywire3482
    @haywire3482 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd definitely love to see Toby's take on the various elven factions, especially the High Elves. Curious to see what he might have to say about the really tall helmets.

  • @bar_jumper1312
    @bar_jumper1312 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    legend of dwarf comes from the mointains, where italian miners travel up to the peak to get the gold and sold it down in the city for supplies

  • @Lewlew97
    @Lewlew97 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    13:45 I love the ship flying past as soon as he says cavalry 😂

  • @wrath6916
    @wrath6916 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He makes really good points. Great content, thumbs up!

  • @zebjensen4251
    @zebjensen4251 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can't wait to see his reaction to the lizard men and the dark elves.

  • @saintmuerte13
    @saintmuerte13 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really hope they talk about the Lizardmen at some point in this series.

  • @rqry1
    @rqry1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love Toby! Could listen to him for hours

  • @ngrader
    @ngrader 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    18:00 "No no, manling... Is for beast, yes yes. "

  • @Mr.Blob007
    @Mr.Blob007 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    would like to see Toby review on the armors in Kingdom Come Deliverance next, be it the armor sets you find in the game or the armor of npcs scattered across it or generally any fun facts about the medieval time period of it. Even a review by the HEMA expert of combat gameplay and swords for the game is welcomed😊

  • @LoremasterLiberaster
    @LoremasterLiberaster 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Knightly champions" 8:21 this guy really getas it lol, in-game they're called Legendary Lords

  • @daniellogue8365
    @daniellogue8365 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love how Toby recognizes it's fantasy and doesn't just give it zero for realism, but is really thoughtful in what the designers were trying to achieve and replicate.

  • @lexion21
    @lexion21 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what ever exuse you can make to get more Toby on here, do it!

  • @brdjones3732
    @brdjones3732 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This guy nailed what makes the Warhammer Fantasy world so great.

  • @jackthejackrabbit1947
    @jackthejackrabbit1947 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    13:48 yes, especially from C A V A L R Y THAT SHIP THAT BULDOZED THE LINE WAS DEFENANTLY C A V A L R Y

  • @rockandrolljew89
    @rockandrolljew89 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never get tired of watching him talk about weapons and armor. Keep these videos coming.

    • @theengine
      @theengine 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Buffy's strategy in the 90s...

  • @Arbiterjim
    @Arbiterjim 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love seeing these explorations of Warhammer Fantasy. It's the best setting ever made and I want to see it come back for more generations to enjoy

  • @H2OSoarin
    @H2OSoarin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @17:19 Yes we do have quite an extensive library of historical literature at Creative Assembly, it's a collection made up largely of recommendations given by our historical consultants over the years.

  • @Inugamirukazu
    @Inugamirukazu 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I find it funny that you said about the lead bullets with curse words when talking about the skavens when they are one of the greatest enemies of the dwarfs, aand the dwarfs are the ones that write their grudges on the stones to throw with their grudge throwers

  • @tommysoliz3064
    @tommysoliz3064 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Warhammer Fantasy. I wasn’t always a fan of Warhammer but pulling it back in time makes the world so lore filled.

  • @koenvk5045
    @koenvk5045 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cody cracked the Warhammer code: more spikes, more horns, MORE SKULLS!

  • @Zhentarim
    @Zhentarim 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but in addition to the game's merits, many of the visual elements are well thought out, as the company that made them was originally designed to make tabletop miniatures, so much of this must have a good amount of thought put into it.

  • @duje44
    @duje44 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ax muskets are reference to streltsi, that used bardiche and musket, and they would use bardiche as stand for shooting

  • @nothingtobeconcernedabout7477
    @nothingtobeconcernedabout7477 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Isn't one interpretation of the wings on the hussars about them appearing taller and imposing. Also one theory says that the wings flapping in the wind would make a sound, to either intimidate because the sound would announce the arrival of the elite cavalry. A less plausible interpretation being that the noise of the wings was supposed to scare the other horses with the horses of the winged hussars being used to the flapping of the wings

  • @SHOBHITAUSHESH
    @SHOBHITAUSHESH 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I see Toby Capwell...I click. Always has excellent insights & commentary