I just want to tell you There's a warhammer 40k vs star wars crossover series You would like It's made by a fan with too much time, and honestly, it's very will Written and Actually pretty good It's actually the thing that got me into warhammer
Lol a 90 minute charge? I'll stick with my Skullcandy that have a 3 to 4 hour charge each bud with a block that has a 32 hour charge. $20 for Skullcandy that perform just as well as any Raycon :]
also "undead mummifed egyptian kings with enough gold drip to make a custode blush, ruling over a land of sand and skeletons that want to make the entire world their personal serfdoms"
Agree to disagree. What can I say, I am a dinosaur kid. Lizardmen are peak. Also big funny frogman cast magic nuke. I love Lord Kroak, best dead (but not really), faction leader
@thelesserone9237 the lizardmen are definitely peak (they ride dinosaurs and have frikkin' lasers, of course they're peak), but I'd argue a different kind of peak. The Skaven are peak of villany and hilarity. They're genocidal mad scientists hell-bent on world domination whose evil contraptions inspire terror in even the most stalwart opponents, yet at the same time they have all the intelligence of the Aqua Teens without Frylock, less loyalty than Starscream, and those same wicked contraptions are just as likely to backfire on them Wile E. Coyote style. That's why the rats are peak. Again, nothing but respect to the unga-bunga lizards, but different types of peak, like I said. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
I realized a time ago - Warhammer is to us what Star Trek is to our Dad´s. Some prefer Classic , some Next Generation, Some prefer 40K , some Fantasy. Some like Kirk more, some Picard. Some prefer the Emperor, some the other Emperor.
> Some prefer the Emperor, some the other Emperor. Karl Franz and Sigmar are objectively superior tho. The God-Emperor of Man is written to be a this unlikable failure. Glad Gulliman id here to wipe his butt
@@dinobro4273 Honestly preferred when we knew little about the emperor now, we know definitively he was just a moron while before we could only theorize about what had happened.
@@ArnveldCertainly, without Erebus there would be no Horus Heresy but the setting would still be interesting without that. Besides, everyone's always crying about Erebus but seems to forget about Kor Phaeron
Little detail about the pope banning crossbows: that was specifically for fighting other Christian nations (that distinction only really affected the Crusades). It was less “technology bad” and more “this is cruel. We’re supposed to be friends. Cut it out”. It didn’t change much, but it was an early attempt at creating formal international rules of engagement
It wasn't so much "cruel", as it now meant a farmer bloke who can't even read is now capable of reliably killing a lord in full plate armour which cost more than the village the aforementioned bloke lives in. Though, to be fair, said lord also probably couldn't read
The church has all sorts of ideas about Christian brotherhood and please stop sacking French churches and okay you can steal horses but you better have standards.
Part of the bretonnian code of chivalry is that knights can't use missile weapons. Knights are only supposed to ride into people in a wedge and smack them. Bretonia still has peasant militia with bows and siege catapults. You can still command peasants with those weapons. Yeomen, free and slightly richer peasants, form a sort of light Archer cavalry.
Fun fact: the Halflings had an army at one point, bases on cooks, and launching boiling soup out of giant slingshots Also, they are considered prized allies to Ogres, are immune to the cancer of Warpstone, and believe kleptomancy is just another way of appreciating others
Ogres are faced with a dilema when dealing with Halflings. Halflings make some of the best food in the old world, but they're also incredibly tasty themselves. Sometimes an Ogre will eat a Halfling's food, and sometimes they'll eat the Halfling.
That sounds a lot like the halflings in Kings of War. Their magic wielders are called Saucerors and make magic potions that do assorted things in giant cauldrons. They also make some very odd weapons out of farm machinery, seem to have domesticated trolls, and have cavalry on giant dogs, a few of which have wings.
You could take halfling regiments as part of an empire army. Mostly the normal slingers, spear militia etc. They had the nonsense hot-pot lobber, a war machine that launched a very strong curry on people.
It's funny, because the whole "It's a simple thing to know if the Tomb Kings are for you or not" part, basically every question I answered No, but they are still my favorite faction. Do I like the Mummy? It's OK I guess. Do I like Ancient Egypt? Not really. The Sphinx bit? No, I have never wondered that. I still love them though, I love the variety and the fact that this isn't just "Look, evil undead, scary huh?" and instead is like "Hey, these are undead that operate mostly like people, some are kinda good, some are kinda bad."
Walking sphinx with giant blades for its hands is 10/10 on the cool list already. Then they had to up that as well, because its Warhammer. So we got the giant with censer and magic staff in its hands which shoots lasers out of its eyes.
I thought the Dwarves were the only ones with submarines? At least, I've never come across mentions of there being submarines in the Clan-Fleets. Now, don't get me wrong, the sneaky, strike first, strike hard and die horribly if it doesn't work approach of early submarines is probably the most skaven way to wage naval warfare. And it's frankly *weird* that the Dwarves of all people have them. But, well, as I said, the only WHF submarine I've ever heard of id the Dwarven Nautilus.
@@chryssalidbait8765 in a gotrek and Felix book, the skaven have a submarine that they just stole from the dwarfs and shoved full of warp stone to make it “better.”
@@jundsheep7599 Then it exploded and their leader, the infamous Thanqoul swore vengeance against Gotrek and Felix whilst clinging onto a broken piece of the submarine out on sea. One of the most saturday cartoon villain moments of all time, perfectly fitting Thanqoul and skaven as a whole.
@@chryssalidbait8765There is barely a dwarf navy in WFRP. There is one fortress that face water, and has a fleet of river patrol craft. The dwarf fleet in Man'o'war is dominantly steam gunships of various sorts. They are heavy, armoured, hard to board and ignore wind. The submarine is fun, they make little dips under the surface.
I will never not be upset by how little attention the Chaos Dwarves get, they are the coolest thing in this setting bar none but they don't even appear in a Gotrek and Felix book just one short story. I love that they're basically "We made dwarves with none of the moral failings of dwarves...and replaced them with worse failings" hell they have a whole chaos god to themselves and they get nothing compared to the other factions
Chaos Dwarfs are more reasonable than regular Dwarfs, and its insane that its a true statement. Best example is slayers vs. infernal guard. As dwarfs, once shamed, you gotta go ahead and kill yourself, whilst taking as many enemies as you can with you. As chaos dwarfs, you get a pretty inhumane mask, but heavy armor and weaponry, and if you endure, you get to return to normal society.
I wake up this morning, September 6th, thinking to myself, "my Warhammer fantasy roleplaying group barely know anything about the setting, I better type up a primer on the world to share with them", I work all day, then get off to see this posted. Did the stars just align right or do I have some form of prescience?
I want a Thanquol tutorial on all the ways to skin an infant. It should includes at least 20 betrayls, 3 accidents, and 1 guest segment with Gotrek and Felix.
Thing about the Beastmen I kinda hate is that they became limited to just being goat people despite there being lore that there's several other animals they take the form of like Harpies, Rakasha, Lake monsters, Sasquatch, Naga etc. There's so much potential for models.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 Well you got me on the Harpies because their models are only listed in Dark Elf armies, but Total Warhammer and lore says they are Beastwomen touched by chaos. Dark Elves have a Medusa unit, not a Naga and they look different than the art given for the Snakemen. Though Daughters of Khaine would make a hard pitch to put them in AoS.
The amount of people I see who get into warhammer because fantasy ISNT the generic ass space marine circle jerk is insane and shows how strong the faction’s aesthetics are
@@FrostbiteDigitalamen, constantly hearing everyone just shit on a faction you love gets extremely tiring even if you are reasonably certain that most of them are just joking. The Tau are also in the top three most misrepresented factions if not the most misrepresented by fans of 40k in my opinion.
Outside of chaos in End times fantasy has something for almost every faction (sorry monkey boys, Arabia and others) and factions win and lose in tangible ways. Like Karak-eight-peaks for 3 factions, fall of Dawi to Chorfs, Empire almost getting destroyed by vampires, Norsca almost getting wiped out by Settra, destruction of Mordheim and other events with consequences mattering until the very end. In 40k characters dead forever come back to life because they made Imperium so central to their identity and in marketing that they can't properly focus on Eldars or Orcs or Tau without tanking their sales for the time being
39:35 The Dwarf's bestseller book's: - Book of Grudges - Book of minor Grudges - Book of major Grudges - Book of "it ain't really a grudge but I'ma treat it like a Grudge"
I also like that many of Fantasy's factions feel more authentic and plausible. The Empire doesn't irrationally hate everything it sees just so it can be really mean for no clear reason, it sees and understands the value of diplomacy and strong allies. And the factions who don't, still have something else going for them. God bless the skaven, you terrible, terrible bastards.
So does the Imperium, contrary to popular belief. But its protectorate species and allies aren’t among the few major species and so are too irrelevant to even mention beyond their existence.
40:00 - In the dwarf's defence - they had sent a delegation prior to invasion, requesting the payment of the 2 coins - the count of that region responded with an insult and kicked the dwarfs out - that was triggered the invasion
Hearing the lore i just realised there is a lack of greece in Warhammer. Which is surprising because the Byzantine empire converted to fantasy would be badass.
@@AzraelVonJaeger So just a collection of city states? honestly feels like a missed oportunity. Then again by how you describe GW's treatment it is not feeling it literally is a missed oportunity;
@@dx3217 yeah there was some nice nugget of lore with an expy of Sparte and another of Rome, there was even an entire city that was dedicated to Morr. But it was never truly explored
one thing i absolutely love about the Skaven is that in some settings it would be easy to think "Wait this one faction is super advanced, why doesnt everyone just do what they do?" and for skaven its because they're basically using fantasy uranium that nobody else messes with because its poison and even the skaven die from it which lets them make advanced but volatile shit but they dont care if it explodes on them. Nobody else could make use of warp stone in this way. Maybe chorfs.
What also helps is that the skaven themselves have not a single damn clue what the hell they’re doing. Much of their technology is essentially just cobbling pieces of wood and scrap matter together with gum and duct tape, shoving magic green rocks into it until the final product either miraculously works, explodes, or miraculously works and then explode.
We're talking about GW; the guys who have sat on Dinosaur riding Space Elves using giant laser weapons for the last 30 year. Them not realising Winged Hussars riding bears is cool is very predictable
@@KawaiiCanadafreememes Too busy pushing out more Space Marines to design a range of Exodite Eldar. Even though the designs have been around for years too.
I like how Skaven are simultaneously the most over-the-top, goofy satire way of evil fantasy creature and also the most horrifying concept for fantasy creatures at the same time.
@@THENemesisXX99 Amazons being a faction of scantily clad woman will forever remain in modded territory... Making Albion into a proper island like Old World mod did would also likely screw up the world map with how out of place it would look like. Id also love both, ngl, but we got them as mods at least.
The greenskins factions. 1. normal orks: use metal weapons and lesser greenskins as slaves 2. black orks: stronger orks made by the chaos dwarfs (Duergar of warhammer). They are stronger and more skilled than normal orks. Often in charge of a tribe of normal orks. 3. savage orks: do not use metal weapons and use more greenskin magic 4. forest goblins: goblins who escaped the orks and are now living in the forest riding big spiders while getting high on spider venom. 5. night goblins: goblins who escaped the orks and are now living underground. They use mushrooms for magic and combat drugs 6. goblins river pirates: goblins that do attack on merchants ships 7. normal goblins: tribe of goblins, most often made up of mostly wolf riders since they can outrun the orks runtherders.
If people could fall in love to the concept of "Dwarfs in Space" because of Industrialist space miners that frequently shout "Rock & Stone" to each other, so much so that GW even decides to course correct and chase the trend they could've been ones defining it. Then surely army of bear cavalry from Kislev and scaled pegasus riders from Cathay (which makes them infinitely cooler then Bretonian's pegasus because their flying horse mounts are also half dragons) would be an instant smash hit to build, paint and play with on the tabletop. Personally feel its a bit of a crime that the old world is only given just the minimal amount of love and attention then what it rightfully deserves...
I was watching you play halo on stream and you screamed so loud when a sword elite jumped out that it permanently altered my phone's speaker quality. 10/10 best lore channel on youtube.
40:00 In the Dwarfs defense, first they sent a worker who got laughed at. Then a Reckoner (Dwarf IRS) who got kicked out of town. Before they sent that Dwarf army.
Teclis: With a wave of my staff and the flick of my wrist, one zap from me will kill` ya quick. So get on your knees to warp and blow but not right now I gotta go. Karl Franz: By the Sigmar, I hate it when he rhymes...
I love brettonia, but I actually like the fact that their diety is an elf one. My friend and I got into warhammer playing brettonia and wood elves because Athel Loren is cool and there’s interesting connections between how the green knights rules work and how the lore of Athel Loren works. Now I collect both armies. But yes, they are both technologically regressive compared to the other human and elf factions.
So an elf is one of the most egocentric and haughty beings in the setting. An elf goddess even more so. But said elf goddess decided she needed help and that other elves weren't good enough. So she turned to the Bretonnians. Check mate, haters.
@@PhilosophicallyAmerican I never thought of it that way. But I think it's something to do with how the Elven pantheon is basically their ancestors rather than actual deific beings. So Lileath probably chose to raise up mortal warriors into her servants rather than her descendants, who were already sworn to Kurneos and Isha. But it also seems like humans are more adaptable and receptive to those types of blessings, seeing as that is how the changes to grail knights mimic chaos chosen.
@@PhilosophicallyAmerican More like she needed cheap chaff to sacrifice as meat shields, because elven lives were too precious and too few already. For which, humans were the perfect candidate.
@@Grivehn I mean it's a win win situation if you look at the perspective of bretonnia. Your culture and society is at the brink of extinction caused by the malevolent creatures of the world. Then suddenly a foreign goddess offered you her divine power So that you can protect yourself and her people.
The Fimir have a life cycle that would demonetize Panc into Malal's dimension. It is interesting that they and the Dragon Ogres appear to be survivors of the colder, Pre-Old One Mallus, alongside the actual dragons
One really good piece of world building about slayers that I got from Gotrek and Felix books, is that perfect memory is exactly the reason why Dawi become slayers. Sure, they don't ever forget that someone screwed them over, but it goes both ways - regret or shame of that their own actions will never fade or lessen from Dawi's memory.
I would say ogres aren’t cannibals because they mostly only eat other races and everything that isn’t nailed down. But as I said ‘mostly’, which Greasus demonstrated on his method to rise to power.
27:50 man, I really wish that GW develops more the lore of Tilea. It had/has the potential for a lot of interesting plots, but nobody is using it. IRL Reinassance Italy was one of the most chaotic and interesting times in Italian history - for example, Venice once transported and entire FLEET on land in order to defeat Milan, or, to be less specific, there were a lot of mercenary leaders who managed to carve their own kingdoms - now, imagine Reinassance Italy in a fantasy setting, you could come up with even crazier ideas. For Sigmar's sake, GW even created really interesting Tilean characters like Borgio the Besieger, Lucrezzia Belladonna or Marco Colombo and did basically nothing with them.
What I love about the empire of man is that, unlike the imperium, progress is possible. They could continue progressing to the Industrial Revolution and beyond, which seems really cool in my opi… wait, what’s an end times?
It's really crazy how in 40k the imperium has been stuck in the same decade for 10 000 years while the Tau had a speed run of historical advancement in just 6000.
Pancreas has been my gateway drug into Fantasy. Giving me a few good laughs and plenty of good vibes, and now I’m railing lines of powdered warp stone like a skaven.
I wonder what % of people watching this already knew every, single, thing, in the entire video and still watched the whole damn thing and liked every second of it. I know I did. :)
45:28 There once was mass cannibalism within the Mongol army when they were besieging some chinese city. They were out of supplies so instead of breaking the siege, they picked that option to keep besieging the city and eventually took it.
@@qhu3878"elif" is a keyword used in programming to denote "else if". It will execute if the preceding "if" or "elif" statement's condition is "false" and its own "true". :3 🤓 :nerd_emoji:
Always remember: GW killed Fantasy, at least, 3-5 years before they officially pulled the plug back in 2015. Tabletop games don't just happen, they require time and investment to develop, test, market, and distribute - aggressive amounts of both if you're operating at GW's scale. This means that AoS was in development for years prior to its release, which is important because it means the time and resources that could/should have been going to Fantasy were instead being shovelled into AoS.
@@Cheese23145 to the extent that fantasy sales were stagnant because of the nature of the setting, yes. But then the way to change that is to advance the setting. Which they did. And that wasn't necessarily to everyone's liking.
Actual reason bretonia is as it is. Its a pair of simultaniously run eugenics programs to create an anti chaos force for an elf goddess doomsday prepping for end times. She chose humans over elves because we cycle faster, why breed elephants when you can breed... well... horses. The entire point is to create and store a massive army of super warriors (she stores the grail knights in magical super stasis) for the final victory vs chaos. It is implied that grail knights (who have all seen her) are actually in the know of this unlike the rest (depending on writer this can be ignored, just the circle, or all grail knight's). then of course all of this was entirely forgotten by end times and they died offscreen. Thank you gw, very cool.
13:45 Actually Halfling hunting has been outlawed since 1402. And even then it was only carried out by The Order of the Black Bear. But then again... the previous Elector Count tried to wipe them out because he fumbled a deal to build a bridge. When he only paid to build roads...
One thing I do kind of miss about the Oldhammer incarnation of the Empire of Sigmar that faded away towards the end of Midhammer was its heavy use of demihuman auxiliaries. In 2nd and 3rd edition, you could take halflings, dwarves, elves, gnomes, ogres and half-orcs as mercenaries, whilst 4e straight up incorporated halflings, dwarves and ogres into the army list. Given the Empire's association with "hey, diplomacy amongst humanoids is actually a decent idea when the alternative is greenskins and chaos", I kind of wish we still had that baked-in Alliance of Order feel. It's a missed opportunity for the Cities of Sigmar in AoS as well.
Father Pancreas, I'm a lifetime nerd as well as a teacher. I just wanted you to know how much I admire your work and enjoy everything that you create. Please continue doing what you do and bringing joy into the lives of thousands of people. Stay blessed elf king.
i always preferred fantasy to 40k just because of the models and setting being such a twisted and fun take on dark fantasy thats as grim as berserk but still has that red dwarf / blackadder humor snuck in.
The guy at my local GW is generally great but when I asked him about Kislev in the new Old World he said it's likely not going to happen because it will offend some people. I'm a slav and I told him there's literally nothing in fantasy outside of Witcher that represents my (general) people and I'd get into Old World immedietly if they had Kislev. I also don't know any Slav's who would be offended, there's nothing so specific in Kislev that could ignite and inter-slav rivalry's. I'm also a fan of Grand Cathay in Total War and that's unlikely to ever be made for the same reasons. :( I usually don't say this unironically but fucking "woke" bullshit.
I was in a discussion about the upcoming Space Elf update coming up later this year I was of the opinion "It's probably just going to be more Ynnari because it looks like GW just wants them all under one tent" to which he brought up an understandable point "I really think they should have a actual fan of Aeldari make some new minis, but that person would probably wind up unironically hating whatever they made even more than GW does because Aeldari players are like that." We both agreed we were both right, and resumed playing the only army that matters: Orks.
Some homeless peasant with knight equipment worship elven god Lilieath and being extremely jealous of imperial innovations and get gaslighted by Asrai because your precious Lady is elven god Lilieath.
Unpopular opinion, I hate the Skaven. They completely justify GW-tier writing. It's one thing to be the most numerous faction, it's one thing to be the most technologically advanced faction, it's one thing to be a faction that can blow up moons when the thin justification of "when they stop fighting each other for a second they can do crazy stuff." But ALL of it in one faction? And what I like about the Old World is that it's still an _old_ world. The empire is a nice middle-ground of technology and staying grounded in a sort of medieval fantasy vibe. A musket is nice tech, evens the odds with those bulked up barbarians, but it doesn't make you the master of the world full of 9-foot green gorillas and John Carpenter monsters. The dwarfs annoy me because they've got similar tech excuses going on for why they don't just literally steamroll the entire setting. "Yeah, we've got belt-fed machine guns and intercontinental ballistic-missile capable submarines. But we're gonna keep sending guys to battle almost exclusively with axes and shields because GRRR DWARF TOO STUBBORN, DWARF NOT WANT CHANGE SO DWARF NOT USE FULLY FUNCTIONAL FIGHTER JET THAT DOESN'T REMOTELY FIT IN THE VIBE OF THE SETTING BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA, BAH HUMBUG GRUMBLE GRUDGE. But when you have straight up man-portable minigun technology, the means to mass produce it, and no reservations about using it all over the place, there aren't many problems in a fantasy setting that can't (at least theoretically) be utterly beaten back with gusto. Who cares about how big and mean that troll is when you just hold the trigger and wait for results with tech so many generations ahead of everyone else in the setting that you might as well just slap a necron tomb under everyone? Oh it's ok because the gadgets blow up a lot, as if having 30 functional seconds of uninterrupted minigun fire in a battle where your enemies are lined up shoulder-to-shoulder isn't practically a single-handed battle winner. Then they just whip up 20 more and stick them on the backs of 20 more rats, because not only are these death machines effective, they're very replicable for a race of potentially billions. And the whole "constant backstabbing" schtick is what gets used to balance out the plot conveniences their moon-busting super tech allows. The Skaven blitz everyone, dazzle everybody with their big genetically-engineered beasts and unstoppable cyborg warriors on a battlefield where their opposition is still using pointy sticks, and then when all hope is lost and the war is practically in the rat's hands? LOL ME-ME TAKE THRONE FOR SELF-SELF and suddenly the rats crumble, crawl back into their caves, start it all over again next event when narrative wheels need greasing with cheap solutions and resolutions. I think they'd have a super amazing vibe going if we dropped the stupid bionic implants, laser cannons and star wars deathwheels, and just stuck to being a nigh-limitless mass of verminous disease, like a living wave of gothic black plague horror paintings. I know warhammer is all about the over the top and ridiculous, but I think it should achieve that within the vibe of the genre, if that makes any sense. 40k gets sci-fi brands of ridiculous, like planets getting mobilized as ships, grots shot in teleport cannons, etc. Old World should get more history-inspired fantasy ridiculousness, like demigryph knights and undead pirates riding zombie crabs and all that. I know that's all very nitpicky for a lot of people, but I'm just the kind of guy that likes when a particular atmosphere is preserved. I think you'd feel pretty weird watching a movie set in ancient Egypt if suddenly a Huey comes flying in to provide suppressive fire to the chariot riders. I mean granted the first viewing would be wild, but if you were one of the people really into the Egypt plot, you'd feel pretty disappointed.
@@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit Well thank you, I wasn't trying to tell anyone they're wrong or anything, the Skaven are still fun for what they are, they just make my autism anger flare up lol.
@@SnibsnBibs I think it comes across pretty well that you’re not coming down on any*one* individually for liking Skaven, so I wouldn’t worry. I can get the same way to similar problems I have with the Imperium in 40K, though most complaints about that setting have been rendered into dead horses by time lol.
@@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit I feel that so much about 40k, unfortunately I'm paranoid that it's due to the whole blackrock thing. I feel like it's become one of those properties that the fans appreciate way more than the people allowed to work on it. It's starting to feel a little..... Disneyfied 😥
I kind of agree. I love Warhammer (and especially Fantasy) because of the Idea that Humanity can persevere against these Magical threats through Technology, ingenuity, bravery and Numbers. I love the Idea of Napoleonic armies taking down Minotaurs and Trolls with Canons and Guns. But Skaven throw that in the Trash by having Lasers and Billions of Soldiers.
Hey Pancreas, hopefully one day "NowWork", addition on the dwarf slayers that is often overlooked. The Funeral is because the slayer is basically dead to their family and society. But more importantly, they will treat that death as having happened BEFORE the great dishonour was committed. So the death redeemed them, they just need to uphold their end of the bargain and go die propperly.
ahh, Warhammer Fantasy, the king of all three in my mind. yesi t's origins and inspirations are obvious on the surface BUT it's absolute greatness. OldHammer was my first touch into Warhammer as a genre, let alone into fantasy. when i was a kid my dad got access to Age of Reckoning, an MMO based on Oldhammer back in 2008-2009. that's when i saw the dwarfs and greenskins, and immediately fell in love with the world. when we moved over to WOW i was excited to see orcs and the MOMENT i clicked on them i said "...wait...that's not an orc..that's just a green guy with tusks!"
Beastmen and wood elves were both armies geared towards ambush. Wood elves have a lot of ways they can move and cover in forest terrain and can even shift the terrain itself. Beastmen seems to like sitting in ambush behind a tree and jump your army before they form up, using a big swarm of gors. Ogres were the army if you wanted to have nothing but monstrous infantry with nothing below 3 Wounds on the field. Every ogre is a nasty brute, including their basic line infantry. Gnoblars are an option.
That's why I hate Beastmen especially Khazrak (when I am playing as Carcasonne) and Taurox (when I am playing as Alith Anar) and any random beastmen warheard when I hear the event sound effect voice *BEASTMEN* I am starting to scan where the bastards will spawn. And I cant normally find them perfectly knowing that they are in province somewhere because of increased Chaos corruption.
@@Warmaster2001 I think they and wood elves had rules for ambushes in the miniature rules. I can't remember exactly how the beastmen worked on the tabletop. But wood elves had rules for literally moving forest terrain around, and moving units through forest.
It will never happen, but the new Planet of the Apes movies actually have potential to become a fantasy-esque setting. The humans are the elves; a formerly dominant race of physically weak but technologically superior peoples. Their former global civilization is made of fractured settlements clinging on to their ancient tech that they're in no position to use unless desperate. The civilized humans are basically high elves, and the feral humans can basically become dark elves and various fae creatures. The Apes are obviously fantasy humans. They are the dominant race who only came to prosper thanks to the humans who messed up, and they're only barely able to grasp what the progenitor race was capable of. They also come in different flavors like chimp, bonobo, orangutans, gorillas etc just like you can have humans, ogres, dwarves, and halfings.
Being a type 1 Diabetic that's gotten into 40k over the last 2 years finding your channel feels like fate. And now I see Soulblight Gravelords in your pile? I just finished my 1000pts of my Dark Angels Successor and just picked up the Crimson Court and Bloodknights. Too weird!
You know he has said that he doesn't care about what people think of his opinions but its really frustrating (And I say this as a 40k boy) how he doesn't try to be profesional about them.
@@matijasostojic4288 Mate I'm mostly just teasing about predictability. This is a comedy show through the framework of a silly fantasy world. He's gonna throw punches, ya gotta laugh at it.
@@89Dienekes my main problem is how real it is. He doesn't have to break character from the joke to actually say some good things about them, he has to hold himself back to say some good things about them. Like I genuienly don't care about poking fun at the factions or their writing but when there is genuien disdain for something like that its kinda hard to personaly enjoy it. It goes from "Ok he's kidding around but I can wait for him to finish to actually give a proper explanation/review" to "Ok so most of the time alloted to this factions is him making fun of them and then the last minute is him saying how its alright for people to like them so he doesn't get any true hate for his opinion".
For next April Fools', he should do Bretonnia: Do. Not a Do or Don't, just Bretonnia Do, and even use the Elf Simp angle to say that Lileath chose them, and what Hot Elf Goddess Says Goes.
I had a really rough day travelling across the country and seeing “New Pancreas Video” in my subscription box made it suck so much less. Thank you Mr NoWork for your efforts.
Minor (Very Big) correction: The setting is just called "Warhammer". The "Fantasy" title was dropped in 1987 in order to differenciate between "Warhammer 40.000" and to make clear that "Warhammer" is the main product and that "40.000" the spin off. So next time someone says "Warhammer Fantasy", feel confident to correct them on their mistake as GW has a nasty habit of actually sueing stores (totaly not speaking of experience) who do not differenciate properly because they have reached LEGO levels of pettiness!!
It would also annoy 40k fans by letting them know their setting is the inferior, according to GW. It would likely also annoy GW these days. So Im all for it.
@@GrivehnAnd would the setting that has ended really be the inferior one? They're both just as good. The only reason you guys are calling it Warhammer just seems to be because you want to piss people off. Warhmmer fantasy is a better name. And it's what it Should be called.
@@Goat5747 We are calling the Warhammer franchise by its real name, the name that GW wants us to use. Calling Star Wars "Stellar Battle" just because you like the name more does not change the title of the franchise.
In case anyone cares, Alberta actually has a phone line you're supposed to call if you see a rat. They then send a combat patrol worth of exterminators to find it.
fantasy was my intro to the hobby back when i was like, 13 and is stilleasily my favorite setting for all things fantastical. i too am thrilled to share it with new comers and long-time enjoyers. love your content man, please keep doin what youre doin ✌
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I just want to tell you There's a warhammer 40k vs star wars crossover series You would like
It's made by a fan with too much time, and honestly, it's very will Written and Actually pretty good It's actually the thing that got me into warhammer
Do a video on StarCraft races in Warhammer
Lol a 90 minute charge? I'll stick with my Skullcandy that have a 3 to 4 hour charge each bud with a block that has a 32 hour charge.
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Fan Question Since you're a halo fan, if Halo did it, cross over with different franchises. Which one would you choose
For me, it would be Star Wars
Nothing about the Vampire Cosst?
So from what I'm getting, there are three types of factions in Fantasy: "Demons rock!", "Demons suck!", And *"WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!".*
And "demon crack rocks!"
also "undead mummifed egyptian kings with enough gold drip to make a custode blush, ruling over a land of sand and skeletons that want to make the entire world their personal serfdoms"
Never forget, there are also "The French"
You forgot the most important faction, RATS
@@sovietunion7643yknow technically, that’s under “Daemons Suck”. He believes he will destroy Chaos… by killing everyone.
Evil rats with nukes, laser guns, and magic crack.
You cannot get more peak. You just can't.
Agree to disagree. What can I say, I am a dinosaur kid. Lizardmen are peak. Also big funny frogman cast magic nuke.
I love Lord Kroak, best dead (but not really), faction leader
@thelesserone9237 the lizardmen are definitely peak (they ride dinosaurs and have frikkin' lasers, of course they're peak), but I'd argue a different kind of peak. The Skaven are peak of villany and hilarity. They're genocidal mad scientists hell-bent on world domination whose evil contraptions inspire terror in even the most stalwart opponents, yet at the same time they have all the intelligence of the Aqua Teens without Frylock, less loyalty than Starscream, and those same wicked contraptions are just as likely to backfire on them Wile E. Coyote style. That's why the rats are peak. Again, nothing but respect to the unga-bunga lizards, but different types of peak, like I said. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Vampirates necromancer? With WALKING SHIPS?!
@@gustavosampaio5859Agreed, the zombie pirates are a pirate metal album cover, and Grand Dread Commodore, Admiral Luthor Harkon is just peak..
The emperor of mankind is peak
I realized a time ago - Warhammer is to us what Star Trek is to our Dad´s.
Some prefer Classic , some Next Generation,
Some prefer 40K , some Fantasy.
Some like Kirk more, some Picard.
Some prefer the Emperor, some the other Emperor.
And then you have people like me, who view both DS9 and Bretonnia as superior.
@@Dogmelter42Stop telling lies.
Everyone knows Bretonnia is Star Trek: Enterprise.
> Some prefer the Emperor, some the other Emperor.
Karl Franz and Sigmar are objectively superior tho.
The God-Emperor of Man is written to be a this unlikable failure.
Glad Gulliman id here to wipe his butt
@@dinobro4273 Honestly preferred when we knew little about the emperor now, we know definitively he was just a moron while before we could only theorize about what had happened.
How dare you Magnus the Pius, Karl Franz and Sigmar are significantly better rulers than the Emperor and you know it
The greatest “comparing W40k to WFantasy” quote ever is from your Lorecrimes:
“Erebus would get out-played by the average skaven.”
Nah that’s a insult to the average Skaven, he would get outplayed by the stupidest of clan rats
Erebus is best W40k character. And the one, that made the setting interesting.
@@ArnveldStop cooking. Get out of the kitchen.
@@ArnveldCertainly, without Erebus there would be no Horus Heresy but the setting would still be interesting without that. Besides, everyone's always crying about Erebus but seems to forget about Kor Phaeron
@@MrKbonez Because Erebus was first to get memefied. And made as poster boy. Still I love Erebus and seeing people's reaction to it.
Pancreas still clocking in overtime at Bretonnia Haters Inc. I see.
It's half the reason I clicked so fast.
@@surriad1140 it is my eternal duty.
Pick em if you like en though, I’m just a voice on the internet.
He hates Bretonnia, everyone hates elves, and everyone loves greenskins. Perfectly balanced 👌.
This is not overtime this is bare minimum hate for the horse fuckers
@@pancreasnowork9939only in death does Duty end, and when it comes to hating the French, you're dante
Little detail about the pope banning crossbows: that was specifically for fighting other Christian nations (that distinction only really affected the Crusades). It was less “technology bad” and more “this is cruel. We’re supposed to be friends. Cut it out”. It didn’t change much, but it was an early attempt at creating formal international rules of engagement
It wasn't so much "cruel", as it now meant a farmer bloke who can't even read is now capable of reliably killing a lord in full plate armour which cost more than the village the aforementioned bloke lives in. Though, to be fair, said lord also probably couldn't read
@lordwunglerbeckett *can't read _Latin._ Most people in the middle ages were capable of reading their own vernacular.
The church has all sorts of ideas about Christian brotherhood and please stop sacking French churches and okay you can steal horses but you better have standards.
@@lordwunglerbeckettInfantry drill, especially large formations of infantry, is kind of re-learned.
Part of the bretonnian code of chivalry is that knights can't use missile weapons. Knights are only supposed to ride into people in a wedge and smack them.
Bretonia still has peasant militia with bows and siege catapults. You can still command peasants with those weapons. Yeomen, free and slightly richer peasants, form a sort of light Archer cavalry.
Fun fact: the Halflings had an army at one point, bases on cooks, and launching boiling soup out of giant slingshots
Also, they are considered prized allies to Ogres, are immune to the cancer of Warpstone, and believe kleptomancy is just another way of appreciating others
We need to bring this back, I want a hybrid human human ogre army that only work together to protect some halfings that make some bomb soup
Ogres are faced with a dilema when dealing with Halflings. Halflings make some of the best food in the old world, but they're also incredibly tasty themselves. Sometimes an Ogre will eat a Halfling's food, and sometimes they'll eat the Halfling.
That sounds a lot like the halflings in Kings of War. Their magic wielders are called Saucerors and make magic potions that do assorted things in giant cauldrons. They also make some very odd weapons out of farm machinery, seem to have domesticated trolls, and have cavalry on giant dogs, a few of which have wings.
@@screamingcactus1753 this is like a harder choice of whether to eat a knoblar
You could take halfling regiments as part of an empire army. Mostly the normal slingers, spear militia etc.
They had the nonsense hot-pot lobber, a war machine that launched a very strong curry on people.
It's funny, because the whole "It's a simple thing to know if the Tomb Kings are for you or not" part, basically every question I answered No, but they are still my favorite faction.
Do I like the Mummy? It's OK I guess.
Do I like Ancient Egypt? Not really.
The Sphinx bit? No, I have never wondered that.
I still love them though, I love the variety and the fact that this isn't just "Look, evil undead, scary huh?" and instead is like "Hey, these are undead that operate mostly like people, some are kinda good, some are kinda bad."
Same here! Also Settra, he is like 40% of my love for the faction.
@@KODarakor This. Settra is such a wonderful badass.
Walking sphinx with giant blades for its hands is 10/10 on the cool list already. Then they had to up that as well, because its Warhammer. So we got the giant with censer and magic staff in its hands which shoots lasers out of its eyes.
Skaven: we have nukes, submarines, machine guns, and early space flight
Also skaven : we give our slaves sharp sticks and rocks lmao
I thought the Dwarves were the only ones with submarines? At least, I've never come across mentions of there being submarines in the Clan-Fleets.
Now, don't get me wrong, the sneaky, strike first, strike hard and die horribly if it doesn't work approach of early submarines is probably the most skaven way to wage naval warfare. And it's frankly *weird* that the Dwarves of all people have them. But, well, as I said, the only WHF submarine I've ever heard of id the Dwarven Nautilus.
@@chryssalidbait8765 in a gotrek and Felix book, the skaven have a submarine that they just stole from the dwarfs and shoved full of warp stone to make it “better.”
@@jundsheep7599 Then it exploded and their leader, the infamous Thanqoul swore vengeance against Gotrek and Felix whilst clinging onto a broken piece of the submarine out on sea.
One of the most saturday cartoon villain moments of all time, perfectly fitting Thanqoul and skaven as a whole.
@@Grivehn I love how the skaven engineering is just steal other people’s creation and make it run on warp stone or shoot warp stone instead.
@@chryssalidbait8765There is barely a dwarf navy in WFRP. There is one fortress that face water, and has a fleet of river patrol craft.
The dwarf fleet in Man'o'war is dominantly steam gunships of various sorts. They are heavy, armoured, hard to board and ignore wind. The submarine is fun, they make little dips under the surface.
Me a bretonian main:
Im a horse boy and im proud
Stick to your guns soldier, your army is your own.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Imagine doing what Faith Steel and Gunpowder does... But just with Faith and Steel.
Democrat
“Nice Cannon bro, the Elf Goddess who simps for Humans gave me a magic forcefield because she saw my abs glisten once.”
@@utubrGamingimagine needing a god's 7.5 ph sparkling water to come close to matching a middle class German with a gun.
I for one respect Old GW for only calling him "Sultan Jaffar" and not Sultan Sheek Mohammad Mujahedeen IV. They showed real restraint with that
"Sultan Dhurka Dhurka Muhammed Jihad"
I will never not be upset by how little attention the Chaos Dwarves get, they are the coolest thing in this setting bar none but they don't even appear in a Gotrek and Felix book just one short story. I love that they're basically "We made dwarves with none of the moral failings of dwarves...and replaced them with worse failings" hell they have a whole chaos god to themselves and they get nothing compared to the other factions
Chaos Dwarfs are more reasonable than regular Dwarfs, and its insane that its a true statement. Best example is slayers vs. infernal guard. As dwarfs, once shamed, you gotta go ahead and kill yourself, whilst taking as many enemies as you can with you.
As chaos dwarfs, you get a pretty inhumane mask, but heavy armor and weaponry, and if you endure, you get to return to normal society.
Chorfs are cool.
I wake up this morning, September 6th, thinking to myself, "my Warhammer fantasy roleplaying group barely know anything about the setting, I better type up a primer on the world to share with them", I work all day, then get off to see this posted. Did the stars just align right or do I have some form of prescience?
Careful, you may gain a second head and feathers at this rate
I sure hope Thanquil is still going to get his own video someday. From what Pancreas says he's really funny.
He's hilarious.
The "poor" rat can't get a break in his books.
Seconding this. Every time Pancreas mentions Thanquil it ends up hilarious
I want a Thanquol tutorial on all the ways to skin an infant. It should includes at least 20 betrayls, 3 accidents, and 1 guest segment with Gotrek and Felix.
i watch these videos like a small orphan boy ravages a plate of crumbs during the great depression
Literally my thoughts exactly, he has a gift, a true gift
Please sir may I have some more
I just want a dedicated fantasy playlist
2024?
I think this one qualifies as a full crust
Thing about the Beastmen I kinda hate is that they became limited to just being goat people despite there being lore that there's several other animals they take the form of like Harpies, Rakasha, Lake monsters, Sasquatch, Naga etc. There's so much potential for models.
The problem is, most of those you listed are Dark Elf things already. "Beastmen" in all fantasy means "Minotaurs"
@@justinlast2lastharder749 actually snakemen, apemen, and lakemen are actual things and those are just the ones i found direct sources for
@@justinlast2lastharder749 Well you got me on the Harpies because their models are only listed in Dark Elf armies, but Total Warhammer and lore says they are Beastwomen touched by chaos.
Dark Elves have a Medusa unit, not a Naga and they look different than the art given for the Snakemen. Though Daughters of Khaine would make a hard pitch to put them in AoS.
Beastmen are the Tau equivalent based on this lol
Taurox is a communist that Maccarthy WISHED every commie was like
The amount of people I see who get into warhammer because fantasy ISNT the generic ass space marine circle jerk is insane and shows how strong the faction’s aesthetics are
This is literally the reason why I got into fantasy.
I also noticed that with Fantasy, you don't get bullied for having a favourite race that ISN'T the Imperium. (Being a Tau fan ain't easy lol)
@@FrostbiteDigitalamen, constantly hearing everyone just shit on a faction you love gets extremely tiring even if you are reasonably certain that most of them are just joking.
The Tau are also in the top three most misrepresented factions if not the most misrepresented by fans of 40k in my opinion.
Outside of chaos in End times fantasy has something for almost every faction (sorry monkey boys, Arabia and others) and factions win and lose in tangible ways. Like Karak-eight-peaks for 3 factions, fall of Dawi to Chorfs, Empire almost getting destroyed by vampires, Norsca almost getting wiped out by Settra, destruction of Mordheim and other events with consequences mattering until the very end. In 40k characters dead forever come back to life because they made Imperium so central to their identity and in marketing that they can't properly focus on Eldars or Orcs or Tau without tanking their sales for the time being
@Azorees-oj5zr Bretonnia’s fans: 🥲
39:35
The Dwarf's bestseller book's:
- Book of Grudges
- Book of minor Grudges
- Book of major Grudges
- Book of "it ain't really a grudge but I'ma treat it like a Grudge"
That forth book is pretty much “I’m mad at you, but don’t want to split your head open with an axe yet.”
"The notebook of petty grievances."
I also like that many of Fantasy's factions feel more authentic and plausible. The Empire doesn't irrationally hate everything it sees just so it can be really mean for no clear reason, it sees and understands the value of diplomacy and strong allies.
And the factions who don't, still have something else going for them. God bless the skaven, you terrible, terrible bastards.
So does the Imperium, contrary to popular belief. But its protectorate species and allies aren’t among the few major species and so are too irrelevant to even mention beyond their existence.
40:00 - In the dwarf's defence - they had sent a delegation prior to invasion, requesting the payment of the 2 coins - the count of that region responded with an insult and kicked the dwarfs out - that was triggered the invasion
Hearing the lore i just realised there is a lack of greece in Warhammer. Which is surprising because the Byzantine empire converted to fantasy would be badass.
There isn’t really anywhere for a greek themed faction to be
That would be Tilea and or Estalia ( they are supposed to be fantasy Grece/Italy/Rome), but GW forgot they existed
The border Princeton's are the Balkans at their most balkanized.
@@AzraelVonJaeger So just a collection of city states? honestly feels like a missed oportunity. Then again by how you describe GW's treatment it is not feeling it literally is a missed oportunity;
@@dx3217 yeah there was some nice nugget of lore with an expy of Sparte and another of Rome, there was even an entire city that was dedicated to Morr. But it was never truly explored
WE RALLY FOR FRANZ!!!
one thing i absolutely love about the Skaven is that in some settings it would be easy to think "Wait this one faction is super advanced, why doesnt everyone just do what they do?" and for skaven its because they're basically using fantasy uranium that nobody else messes with because its poison and even the skaven die from it which lets them make advanced but volatile shit but they dont care if it explodes on them. Nobody else could make use of warp stone in this way. Maybe chorfs.
What also helps is that the skaven themselves have not a single damn clue what the hell they’re doing. Much of their technology is essentially just cobbling pieces of wood and scrap matter together with gum and duct tape, shoving magic green rocks into it until the final product either miraculously works, explodes, or miraculously works and then explode.
We're talking about GW; the guys who have sat on Dinosaur riding Space Elves using giant laser weapons for the last 30 year. Them not realising Winged Hussars riding bears is cool is very predictable
@@KawaiiCanadafreememes Too busy pushing out more Space Marines to design a range of Exodite Eldar. Even though the designs have been around for years too.
@@Willie5000That's a detriment. If they used existing designs, they have to pay those designers. GW doesn't do that.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 They were designed by Jes Godwin, GW has been sitting on those old concept sketches for years.
I like how Skaven are simultaneously the most over-the-top, goofy satire way of evil fantasy creature and also the most horrifying concept for fantasy creatures at the same time.
God, I hope CA actually does something with Ind, Kuresh, and Nippon
Don't forget Albion and the Amazons.
And Araby also what is going in warhammer fantasy australia...?
God bless the OVA team for making Araby a reality as I doubt that's in the cards for CA
@@THENemesisXX99 Amazons being a faction of scantily clad woman will forever remain in modded territory... Making Albion into a proper island like Old World mod did would also likely screw up the world map with how out of place it would look like.
Id also love both, ngl, but we got them as mods at least.
@@chromesucks5299 Fantasy Australia doesnt exist. Its just more Chaos Wastes in that area afaik.
The greenskins factions.
1. normal orks: use metal weapons and lesser greenskins as slaves
2. black orks: stronger orks made by the chaos dwarfs (Duergar of warhammer). They are stronger and more skilled than normal orks. Often in charge of a tribe of normal orks.
3. savage orks: do not use metal weapons and use more greenskin magic
4. forest goblins: goblins who escaped the orks and are now living in the forest riding big spiders while getting high on spider venom.
5. night goblins: goblins who escaped the orks and are now living underground. They use mushrooms for magic and combat drugs
6. goblins river pirates: goblins that do attack on merchants ships
7. normal goblins: tribe of goblins, most often made up of mostly wolf riders since they can outrun the orks runtherders.
normal orcs are typically referred to as "Orc Boyz", ther's also the gnoblars and hobgoblins aswell as snotlings.
Snotball was a sport in Middenheim. You wrap a snotling in pig leather and play a version of early British street football.
If people could fall in love to the concept of "Dwarfs in Space" because of Industrialist space miners that frequently shout "Rock & Stone" to each other, so much so that GW even decides to course correct and chase the trend they could've been ones defining it. Then surely army of bear cavalry from Kislev and scaled pegasus riders from Cathay (which makes them infinitely cooler then Bretonian's pegasus because their flying horse mounts are also half dragons) would be an instant smash hit to build, paint and play with on the tabletop.
Personally feel its a bit of a crime that the old world is only given just the minimal amount of love and attention then what it rightfully deserves...
The Skaven are actually closer to Tolkien's orcs than the Warhammer orcs are.
I was watching you play halo on stream and you screamed so loud when a sword elite jumped out that it permanently altered my phone's speaker quality.
10/10 best lore channel on youtube.
Babe wake up new pancreasnowork
"Babe wake up my pancreas doesn't work!"
I hit refresh at a good time.
40:00
In the Dwarfs defense, first they sent a worker who got laughed at. Then a Reckoner (Dwarf IRS) who got kicked out of town. Before they sent that Dwarf army.
Teclis: With a wave of my staff and the flick of my wrist, one zap from me will kill` ya quick. So get on your knees to warp and blow but not right now I gotta go.
Karl Franz: By the Sigmar, I hate it when he rhymes...
May Asuryan bless you.
Bretonia is the best faction, firstly because they plow horses, and secondly because they annoy pancreas.
I love brettonia, but I actually like the fact that their diety is an elf one. My friend and I got into warhammer playing brettonia and wood elves because Athel Loren is cool and there’s interesting connections between how the green knights rules work and how the lore of Athel Loren works. Now I collect both armies.
But yes, they are both technologically regressive compared to the other human and elf factions.
So an elf is one of the most egocentric and haughty beings in the setting. An elf goddess even more so. But said elf goddess decided she needed help and that other elves weren't good enough. So she turned to the Bretonnians.
Check mate, haters.
@@PhilosophicallyAmerican I never thought of it that way. But I think it's something to do with how the Elven pantheon is basically their ancestors rather than actual deific beings. So Lileath probably chose to raise up mortal warriors into her servants rather than her descendants, who were already sworn to Kurneos and Isha. But it also seems like humans are more adaptable and receptive to those types of blessings, seeing as that is how the changes to grail knights mimic chaos chosen.
@@PhilosophicallyAmerican More like she needed cheap chaff to sacrifice as meat shields, because elven lives were too precious and too few already. For which, humans were the perfect candidate.
@@Grivehn I mean it's a win win situation if you look at the perspective of bretonnia.
Your culture and society is at the brink of extinction caused by the malevolent creatures of the world. Then suddenly a foreign goddess offered you her divine power So that you can protect yourself and her people.
0:15 Knife Ears.
short.
@@Nothing-1w3 Eww
Pompous pricks who screw up everything
@@Nothing-1w3that’s going in the book
@@Nothing-1w3THEY HAVE WRONGED US
You forgot the Fimir. The Beastmens equally abandoned yet somehow more forgotten cousins.
The Fimir have a life cycle that would demonetize Panc into Malal's dimension. It is interesting that they and the Dragon Ogres appear to be survivors of the colder, Pre-Old One Mallus, alongside the actual dragons
One really good piece of world building about slayers that I got from Gotrek and Felix books, is that perfect memory is exactly the reason why Dawi become slayers. Sure, they don't ever forget that someone screwed them over, but it goes both ways - regret or shame of that their own actions will never fade or lessen from Dawi's memory.
17:11 Elf peasant still upset their goddess loves some human knights more than them, I see.
"Although they have no use for it themselves, Skaven purposely mine gold purely to inconvenience the other races."
I F'ing love them!! 🤣
I like Bretonnia because I think Grail Knights are cool as hell. The Green Knight and Louen Leoncour are cool too
I would say ogres aren’t cannibals because they mostly only eat other races and everything that isn’t nailed down. But as I said ‘mostly’, which Greasus demonstrated on his method to rise to power.
27:50 man, I really wish that GW develops more the lore of Tilea. It had/has the potential for a lot of interesting plots, but nobody is using it.
IRL Reinassance Italy was one of the most chaotic and interesting times in Italian history - for example, Venice once transported and entire FLEET on land in order to defeat Milan, or, to be less specific, there were a lot of mercenary leaders who managed to carve their own kingdoms - now, imagine Reinassance Italy in a fantasy setting, you could come up with even crazier ideas.
For Sigmar's sake, GW even created really interesting Tilean characters like Borgio the Besieger, Lucrezzia Belladonna or Marco Colombo and did basically nothing with them.
The skaven singlehandedly was the race that got me into warhammer as a whole.
What I love about the empire of man is that, unlike the imperium, progress is possible. They could continue progressing to the Industrial Revolution and beyond, which seems really cool in my opi… wait, what’s an end times?
Oh nothing it's just Dietrich Kastners hissy fit he and his pals Sigvald and Kholek just trying to do what Mannfred trying to do in Vampire Wars.
It's really crazy how in 40k the imperium has been stuck in the same decade for 10 000 years while the Tau had a speed run of historical advancement in just 6000.
Pancreas has been my gateway drug into Fantasy. Giving me a few good laughs and plenty of good vibes, and now I’m railing lines of powdered warp stone like a skaven.
I wonder what % of people watching this already knew every, single, thing, in the entire video and still watched the whole damn thing and liked every second of it. I know I did. :)
I knew almost everthing Pancreas said.
45:28 There once was mass cannibalism within the Mongol army when they were besieging some chinese city. They were out of supplies so instead of breaking the siege, they picked that option to keep besieging the city and eventually took it.
Actually I think it was the besieged Chinese who committed the cannibalism. The siege did fail and they did win though.
Please keep the fantasy streak going with a video on Vlad Von Carstein(and then follow it up with a video on Isabella).
Or a long video covering both?
@@Aceshot-uu7yx This is the way.
Space elf? More like SPACE LF
eilf
@@qhu3878"elif" is a keyword used in programming to denote "else if". It will execute if the preceding "if" or "elif" statement's condition is "false" and its own "true". :3 🤓 :nerd_emoji:
@@kacperkonieczny7333 I said EILF, not ELIF. As in elf milf
@@qhu3878 lol, I was trolling you
L-dar
You know, Pancreas really made Warhammer enjoyable for me. I don’t know why but every time I see a notification from him I just get giddy.
Always remember: GW killed Fantasy, at least, 3-5 years before they officially pulled the plug back in 2015.
Tabletop games don't just happen, they require time and investment to develop, test, market, and distribute - aggressive amounts of both if you're operating at GW's scale. This means that AoS was in development for years prior to its release, which is important because it means the time and resources that could/should have been going to Fantasy were instead being shovelled into AoS.
Fantasy killed fantasy. The problem GW had was you could use an army you bought in 1993 and never by another model. So it didn't make money.
@@MattyRlufc would that not be GW‘s fault?
@@Cheese23145 to the extent that fantasy sales were stagnant because of the nature of the setting, yes. But then the way to change that is to advance the setting. Which they did. And that wasn't necessarily to everyone's liking.
@@MattyRlufcthere is advancing the setting and burning everything people liked and were invested in to the ground.
@@LukasJampen and yet people didn't buy Fantasy.
Actual reason bretonia is as it is. Its a pair of simultaniously run eugenics programs to create an anti chaos force for an elf goddess doomsday prepping for end times. She chose humans over elves because we cycle faster, why breed elephants when you can breed... well... horses.
The entire point is to create and store a massive army of super warriors (she stores the grail knights in magical super stasis) for the final victory vs chaos.
It is implied that grail knights (who have all seen her) are actually in the know of this unlike the rest (depending on writer this can be ignored, just the circle, or all grail knight's).
then of course all of this was entirely forgotten by end times and they died offscreen. Thank you gw, very cool.
0:15 If you’ve convinced no one else the eldar are cool actually, you’ve convinced me. Me and my craftworld and revenant titan thank you
And my troupe of Hormogaunts!
The Empire is the best faction and Franz is the best faction leader. Brettonia is also cool.
For Sigmar and Lady!
This comment has my consent.
13:45
Actually Halfling hunting has been outlawed since 1402. And even then it was only carried out by The Order of the Black Bear.
But then again... the previous Elector Count tried to wipe them out because he fumbled a deal to build a bridge. When he only paid to build roads...
One thing I do kind of miss about the Oldhammer incarnation of the Empire of Sigmar that faded away towards the end of Midhammer was its heavy use of demihuman auxiliaries. In 2nd and 3rd edition, you could take halflings, dwarves, elves, gnomes, ogres and half-orcs as mercenaries, whilst 4e straight up incorporated halflings, dwarves and ogres into the army list. Given the Empire's association with "hey, diplomacy amongst humanoids is actually a decent idea when the alternative is greenskins and chaos", I kind of wish we still had that baked-in Alliance of Order feel. It's a missed opportunity for the Cities of Sigmar in AoS as well.
"skaven don't need gold, they mine it to piss off everyone else" this is how I would describe the skaven for someone new in warhammer fantasy
Father Pancreas, I'm a lifetime nerd as well as a teacher. I just wanted you to know how much I admire your work and enjoy everything that you create. Please continue doing what you do and bringing joy into the lives of thousands of people. Stay blessed elf king.
I do indeed love facial chair 41:37
It’s hair that tickles your balls when you sit down on it.
*yeets chair at face*
If you can't even sit on your facial hair, why have them?
"...the dark elves went to Canada."
That certainly explains all the war crimes.
Pancreas got me into warhammer fantasy and aos. I used to think that aos was terrible but the stormcast eternals are actually cool
i always preferred fantasy to 40k just because of the models and setting being such a twisted and fun take on dark fantasy thats as grim as berserk but still has that red dwarf / blackadder humor snuck in.
Harlequins are the gateway drug that leads to actually liking Eldar, worked for me
21:58 you aint slick my good sir
What did it say?
@@Joubes”What is a man? A miserable pile of semen.”
The guy at my local GW is generally great but when I asked him about Kislev in the new Old World he said it's likely not going to happen because it will offend some people. I'm a slav and I told him there's literally nothing in fantasy outside of Witcher that represents my (general) people and I'd get into Old World immedietly if they had Kislev. I also don't know any Slav's who would be offended, there's nothing so specific in Kislev that could ignite and inter-slav rivalry's.
I'm also a fan of Grand Cathay in Total War and that's unlikely to ever be made for the same reasons. :( I usually don't say this unironically but fucking "woke" bullshit.
To be fair the guy at the local GW is probably making assumptions. Most store employees don’t know much more than we do.
15:49 I'm still waiting for a day you do a full video on Kislev, but until then this is a very nice bit to tide me over.
I was in a discussion about the upcoming Space Elf update coming up later this year I was of the opinion "It's probably just going to be more Ynnari because it looks like GW just wants them all under one tent" to which he brought up an understandable point "I really think they should have a actual fan of Aeldari make some new minis, but that person would probably wind up unironically hating whatever they made even more than GW does because Aeldari players are like that." We both agreed we were both right, and resumed playing the only army that matters: Orks.
DAT'S ROIGHT LADZ!!!
WAAAGGGHHH!!!!!
"Dwarfs are synonomous with 'spite'."
And that is why I love them. Lord knows spite is the only thing that gets me out of bed in the morning.
Seeing Pancreas giving Bretonians compliment is as rare as seeing Big E being a good parent. Still love Kislev 🐻
given that you only gave about 5mins to every faction, these overviews are actually pretty good. great vid.
Sorry but, the grail conquests will continue.
*laughs in Hellstrom Rockets*
@@shanehudson3995 Those would probably miss a Pegasus knight and won't survive a big rock being hurled into them ;-)
Tilea got done dirty, they have some of the coolest units in all of the setting!
This Bretonnia slander greatly offends the Lady. We do not “fuck” our mighty steads, we MOUNT them. Do you know who I am?
Some homeless peasant with knight equipment worship elven god Lilieath and being extremely jealous of imperial innovations and get gaslighted by Asrai because your precious Lady is elven god Lilieath.
and who can forget the greatest pirate with multiple personality disorder?
Leaving out a Vampire Coast mention is criminal!
Did you watch the end of the video?
@Azorees-oj5zr well guess I got got. I thought credits rolled 😁
35:53 best summary of Dark Elves I've ever heard
He said Dark Elves went to Canada
Only an American guy could miss the satiric USA reference and point elsewhere instead
I love that Warhammer factions are just so silly ranging from holy aztec lizards riding bigger lizards and then there's just the french.
Technically they are a combination of french and arthurian tales
You can't run forever funny organ man, the Thanquol video is due!
Unpopular opinion, I hate the Skaven. They completely justify GW-tier writing. It's one thing to be the most numerous faction, it's one thing to be the most technologically advanced faction, it's one thing to be a faction that can blow up moons when the thin justification of "when they stop fighting each other for a second they can do crazy stuff."
But ALL of it in one faction?
And what I like about the Old World is that it's still an _old_ world. The empire is a nice middle-ground of technology and staying grounded in a sort of medieval fantasy vibe. A musket is nice tech, evens the odds with those bulked up barbarians, but it doesn't make you the master of the world full of 9-foot green gorillas and John Carpenter monsters. The dwarfs annoy me because they've got similar tech excuses going on for why they don't just literally steamroll the entire setting. "Yeah, we've got belt-fed machine guns and intercontinental ballistic-missile capable submarines. But we're gonna keep sending guys to battle almost exclusively with axes and shields because GRRR DWARF TOO STUBBORN, DWARF NOT WANT CHANGE SO DWARF NOT USE FULLY FUNCTIONAL FIGHTER JET THAT DOESN'T REMOTELY FIT IN THE VIBE OF THE SETTING BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA, BAH HUMBUG GRUMBLE GRUDGE.
But when you have straight up man-portable minigun technology, the means to mass produce it, and no reservations about using it all over the place, there aren't many problems in a fantasy setting that can't (at least theoretically) be utterly beaten back with gusto. Who cares about how big and mean that troll is when you just hold the trigger and wait for results with tech so many generations ahead of everyone else in the setting that you might as well just slap a necron tomb under everyone? Oh it's ok because the gadgets blow up a lot, as if having 30 functional seconds of uninterrupted minigun fire in a battle where your enemies are lined up shoulder-to-shoulder isn't practically a single-handed battle winner.
Then they just whip up 20 more and stick them on the backs of 20 more rats, because not only are these death machines effective, they're very replicable for a race of potentially billions.
And the whole "constant backstabbing" schtick is what gets used to balance out the plot conveniences their moon-busting super tech allows. The Skaven blitz everyone, dazzle everybody with their big genetically-engineered beasts and unstoppable cyborg warriors on a battlefield where their opposition is still using pointy sticks, and then when all hope is lost and the war is practically in the rat's hands? LOL ME-ME TAKE THRONE FOR SELF-SELF and suddenly the rats crumble, crawl back into their caves, start it all over again next event when narrative wheels need greasing with cheap solutions and resolutions.
I think they'd have a super amazing vibe going if we dropped the stupid bionic implants, laser cannons and star wars deathwheels, and just stuck to being a nigh-limitless mass of verminous disease, like a living wave of gothic black plague horror paintings.
I know warhammer is all about the over the top and ridiculous, but I think it should achieve that within the vibe of the genre, if that makes any sense. 40k gets sci-fi brands of ridiculous, like planets getting mobilized as ships, grots shot in teleport cannons, etc. Old World should get more history-inspired fantasy ridiculousness, like demigryph knights and undead pirates riding zombie crabs and all that.
I know that's all very nitpicky for a lot of people, but I'm just the kind of guy that likes when a particular atmosphere is preserved. I think you'd feel pretty weird watching a movie set in ancient Egypt if suddenly a Huey comes flying in to provide suppressive fire to the chariot riders. I mean granted the first viewing would be wild, but if you were one of the people really into the Egypt plot, you'd feel pretty disappointed.
I may disagree, but I can understand your reasoning. Well put.
@@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit Well thank you, I wasn't trying to tell anyone they're wrong or anything, the Skaven are still fun for what they are, they just make my autism anger flare up lol.
@@SnibsnBibs
I think it comes across pretty well that you’re not coming down on any*one* individually for liking Skaven, so I wouldn’t worry. I can get the same way to similar problems I have with the Imperium in 40K, though most complaints about that setting have been rendered into dead horses by time lol.
@@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit I feel that so much about 40k, unfortunately I'm paranoid that it's due to the whole blackrock thing. I feel like it's become one of those properties that the fans appreciate way more than the people allowed to work on it. It's starting to feel a little..... Disneyfied 😥
I kind of agree. I love Warhammer (and especially Fantasy) because of the Idea that Humanity can persevere against these Magical threats through Technology, ingenuity, bravery and Numbers. I love the Idea of Napoleonic armies taking down Minotaurs and Trolls with Canons and Guns. But Skaven throw that in the Trash by having Lasers and Billions of Soldiers.
51:59 bold of you to assume being an evil overlord isn’t a relatable goal
Hey Pancreas, hopefully one day "NowWork", addition on the dwarf slayers that is often overlooked. The Funeral is because the slayer is basically dead to their family and society. But more importantly, they will treat that death as having happened BEFORE the great dishonour was committed. So the death redeemed them, they just need to uphold their end of the bargain and go die propperly.
ahh, Warhammer Fantasy, the king of all three in my mind. yesi t's origins and inspirations are obvious on the surface BUT it's absolute greatness.
OldHammer was my first touch into Warhammer as a genre, let alone into fantasy. when i was a kid my dad got access to Age of Reckoning, an MMO based on Oldhammer back in 2008-2009.
that's when i saw the dwarfs and greenskins, and immediately fell in love with the world.
when we moved over to WOW i was excited to see orcs and the MOMENT i clicked on them i said "...wait...that's not an orc..that's just a green guy with tusks!"
Beastmen and wood elves were both armies geared towards ambush. Wood elves have a lot of ways they can move and cover in forest terrain and can even shift the terrain itself.
Beastmen seems to like sitting in ambush behind a tree and jump your army before they form up, using a big swarm of gors.
Ogres were the army if you wanted to have nothing but monstrous infantry with nothing below 3 Wounds on the field. Every ogre is a nasty brute, including their basic line infantry. Gnoblars are an option.
That's why I hate Beastmen especially Khazrak (when I am playing as Carcasonne) and Taurox (when I am playing as Alith Anar) and any random beastmen warheard when I hear the event sound effect voice *BEASTMEN* I am starting to scan where the bastards will spawn. And I cant normally find them perfectly knowing that they are in province somewhere because of increased Chaos corruption.
@@Warmaster2001 I think they and wood elves had rules for ambushes in the miniature rules.
I can't remember exactly how the beastmen worked on the tabletop. But wood elves had rules for literally moving forest terrain around, and moving units through forest.
Fell asleep to the thorgrim video last night to wake up to a long format warhammer fantasy video. Pinch me I must be dreaming
It will never happen, but the new Planet of the Apes movies actually have potential to become a fantasy-esque setting.
The humans are the elves; a formerly dominant race of physically weak but technologically superior peoples. Their former global civilization is made of fractured settlements clinging on to their ancient tech that they're in no position to use unless desperate. The civilized humans are basically high elves, and the feral humans can basically become dark elves and various fae creatures.
The Apes are obviously fantasy humans. They are the dominant race who only came to prosper thanks to the humans who messed up, and they're only barely able to grasp what the progenitor race was capable of. They also come in different flavors like chimp, bonobo, orangutans, gorillas etc just like you can have humans, ogres, dwarves, and halfings.
okay but how do they make the tyranid /skevan/old necorn niche work?
Just starting the video, hoping Pancreas doesn't drag my beloved Bretonnia through the mud this time
Being a type 1 Diabetic that's gotten into 40k over the last 2 years finding your channel feels like fate. And now I see Soulblight Gravelords in your pile? I just finished my 1000pts of my Dark Angels Successor and just picked up the Crimson Court and Bloodknights. Too weird!
Ahh, can't wait for my Arthurian Myth / Medieval History loving ass to go hear how my boys are the worst things in the world. Good show.
You know he has said that he doesn't care about what people think of his opinions but its really frustrating (And I say this as a 40k boy) how he doesn't try to be profesional about them.
The french deserve nothing but spite.
In and out of warhammer.
@@matijasostojic4288 Mate I'm mostly just teasing about predictability. This is a comedy show through the framework of a silly fantasy world. He's gonna throw punches, ya gotta laugh at it.
@@89Dienekes my main problem is how real it is. He doesn't have to break character from the joke to actually say some good things about them, he has to hold himself back to say some good things about them.
Like I genuienly don't care about poking fun at the factions or their writing but when there is genuien disdain for something like that its kinda hard to personaly enjoy it.
It goes from "Ok he's kidding around but I can wait for him to finish to actually give a proper explanation/review" to "Ok so most of the time alloted to this factions is him making fun of them and then the last minute is him saying how its alright for people to like them so he doesn't get any true hate for his opinion".
For next April Fools', he should do Bretonnia: Do.
Not a Do or Don't, just Bretonnia Do, and even use the Elf Simp angle to say that Lileath chose them, and what Hot Elf Goddess Says Goes.
I had a really rough day travelling across the country and seeing “New Pancreas Video” in my subscription box made it suck so much less. Thank you Mr NoWork for your efforts.
Minor (Very Big) correction:
The setting is just called "Warhammer". The "Fantasy" title was dropped in 1987 in order to differenciate between "Warhammer 40.000" and to make clear that "Warhammer" is the main product and that "40.000" the spin off.
So next time someone says "Warhammer Fantasy", feel confident to correct them on their mistake as GW has a nasty habit of actually sueing stores (totaly not speaking of experience) who do not differenciate properly because they have reached LEGO levels of pettiness!!
It would also annoy 40k fans by letting them know their setting is the inferior, according to GW. It would likely also annoy GW these days. So Im all for it.
@@GrivehnAnd would the setting that has ended really be the inferior one? They're both just as good. The only reason you guys are calling it Warhammer just seems to be because you want to piss people off. Warhmmer fantasy is a better name. And it's what it Should be called.
@@Goat5747 We are calling the Warhammer franchise by its real name, the name that GW wants us to use. Calling Star Wars "Stellar Battle" just because you like the name more does not change the title of the franchise.
In case anyone cares, Alberta actually has a phone line you're supposed to call if you see a rat. They then send a combat patrol worth of exterminators to find it.
Starting out with "Stop hating eldar"
Anyway: "Hate Bretonnia"
Why not hate both?
That skaven part following you saying you love the skaven is very funny. you are all of the above for why you might love skaven.
WHO CALLS?
The nation calls.
*THE NATION CALLS*
fantasy was my intro to the hobby back when i was like, 13 and is stilleasily my favorite setting for all things fantastical. i too am thrilled to share it with new comers and long-time enjoyers. love your content man, please keep doin what youre doin ✌
26:55 I need the context IMMEDIATELY
Its how it sounds
Some Chaos vikings stole some things. Tomb kings sailed up north and the undead burned village after village untill they found it and left.
@@RK-cj4oc other thing.
Its exactly how it sounds, Pancreas isn't even exaggerating(much...).
@@KODarakor jeepers what kinda shit did Felix get himself into.