Reviving A Dying Game Franchise | Sonic Adventure

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  • Today I wanted to talk about Sonic Adventure.
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ความคิดเห็น • 132

  • @KingTvlip
    @KingTvlip ปีที่แล้ว +221

    I love how Sonic Team took trips to the regions they wanted to represent in the stages of the game both in Adventure and Sonic Unleashed, it makes both SA and SU feel so much more filled with love and attention to detail than other games before, or since these two.

    • @zizo5349
      @zizo5349 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well, in 2008 the internet was more widespread. They probably didn't waste money on travelling the world a second time.
      Though this doesn't mean they didn't do a good job. I love that game.

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There certainly was a lot of love put into both games which I do really appreciate!

    • @scribblecloud
      @scribblecloud ปีที่แล้ว

      i hate how i automatically read those as "sexual abuse" and "steven universe" respectively

  • @BrothaKyo
    @BrothaKyo ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I feel everytime Uekawa is brought up, I need to poke a bit of his other Sega history with Ristar, and how he was the character illustrator for that game!

    • @MarkerMurker
      @MarkerMurker ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That makes so much sense!

    • @sometf2player752
      @sometf2player752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so that explains why the style looks pretty similar

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh wow that's pretty cool 👍 My appreciation for Uekawa's work grows everyday.

  • @steve.burlander
    @steve.burlander ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Unreleated but
    this man is underrated.

    • @LannyLeArtist
      @LannyLeArtist ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True

    • @3mar00ss6
      @3mar00ss6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      sega hire this man

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the comments of all time

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks a bunch 😭

    • @steve.burlander
      @steve.burlander ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kirotalksyt no problem

  • @Outliers4Life
    @Outliers4Life ปีที่แล้ว +14

    2:19 this is why I love this channel

  • @ruru8021
    @ruru8021 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I feel its kind of a reach to say sonic was a dying franchise.
    Stagnant maybe, but dying? not even close.

  • @superfandesonic1
    @superfandesonic1 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The first time I played sonic adventure I thought it was a very short game, then I realized I had been playing a small demo xD
    Latin american knuckles is best knuckles 👌👌👌

  • @stunnastream11
    @stunnastream11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Uh...Deem Bristow....I miss him.
    He was the best Eggman in my opinion.

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      RIP Deem Bristow. Absolutely iconic Eggman VA 🙏

  • @robloxnoobtheanimator
    @robloxnoobtheanimator ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, rock fits so much to modern sonic era

  • @stewboy69
    @stewboy69 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    this man is an underrated king

  • @notsolykely693
    @notsolykely693 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It actually really hurt, when you said that Amy's story isn't fun. I hope you understand. And I'm not saying your not allowed your own opinion, I just wanted at'least one person to know how upset it makes me when they criticise her gameplay.

    • @Sing_LoveWRS
      @Sing_LoveWRS ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amy's story is over in like 10 minutes so she doesn't have too much time to shine which is pretty unfortunate, i think if she had more bite sized puzzles and more combat i think she would be more fun (which she already is but not as fun as the others like sonic knuckles or gamma)

    • @thefastcommenter7774
      @thefastcommenter7774 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cry about it, breathe in the copium while you do so

  • @YoungObedMusic
    @YoungObedMusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your commentary! Very open-minded, but not shying away from how you feel about it. This style of commentary makes me want to come back for more content!

  • @RayNheartZ.
    @RayNheartZ. ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "and big is..... i-i guess he's hubba bubba"
    that shit made me laugh so hard lmao

  • @ShatteredDream-ww2hp
    @ShatteredDream-ww2hp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *"Modern" Sonic living his worst*
    *Sonic Frontiers gets teased*
    - What is happening?
    - He is starting to believe.

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perfect mix of humor and information.

  • @NIGHTBLOODUSAGI
    @NIGHTBLOODUSAGI ปีที่แล้ว +3

    basically, sonic be switchin

  • @bobross38
    @bobross38 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yo! I love your new style with the retro tvs and all the editing! Hope your channel gets bigger!

  • @zochi_6224
    @zochi_6224 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The dudes screen at 3:51 caught me so off guard

  • @ULTIMATEH64
    @ULTIMATEH64 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video resurrected my rotting decaying body

  • @lightgivemepower6425
    @lightgivemepower6425 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Honestly I always wonder and just curious whenever people mention sonic being a dead franchise I often ask what quantifies as a dead franchise? I only bring this up because I'm starting to feel people like to throw that phrase around carelessly especially when sonic is involved

    • @utopian4769
      @utopian4769 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's because you're right, it isn't a dead franchise. Sonic hasn't been as successful as he could've been in terms of games for the past few years sure, but he's still a pretty iconic mascot of the gaming industry up there with Mario, Link, Megaman, etc. Very few people don't recognize who he is even now. He's a literal staple of pop culture. But people have this idiotic mentality that just because they don't like something anymore that that means it's dead. It's even weirder when people say that despite the dozens upon dozens of fan material and passion projects that come out every year revolving around him, not to mention the two successful live action movies that came out not that long ago, and the upcoming third movie, show, and video game.
      Who knew that such an apparently dead franchise could still have companies pulling out teeth to get to it, because it's in such great demand from fans but old and new alike.

    • @iregretsomeofmypreviouscom3284
      @iregretsomeofmypreviouscom3284 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sonic can't die. Megaman and Bomberman are the actual diying franchises.

    • @kevinkong64
      @kevinkong64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iregretsomeofmypreviouscom3284on an interesting note, Sonic, Crash, and Spyro all had games that were considered “mixed bags” back then. Surprisingly, only one out of three managed to survive not having to go under a hiatus for a long while…and who else but the Blue Blur to still keep going.

    • @WhatIsMatter101
      @WhatIsMatter101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sonic was called a dying franchise because unlike most mascot characters, he was going toe to toe with Mario. Any deviation from his fame will be considered "dying."
      Of course the stupidities that followed didnt help. Penders owning legal rights to most Sonic character stories, Emi revealing he got railed by Drummond, Sega going almost bankrupt, the dip in quality of the games, the lack of confidence with Sonic Team's abilities and the toxicity of so called Sonic fans.

    • @lightgivemepower6425
      @lightgivemepower6425 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @WhatIsMind48 is he, though? If anything, it seems that people are comparing him to Mario despite both companies not being enemies anymore and the competition being left behind years ago.
      Yeah, you got that right. Don't forget the circle jerk and the ridiculous hot takes on Twitter when it comes to Sonic.

  • @jennyholiday88
    @jennyholiday88 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    that kanye reference didn't age well :o

  • @najadamu2724
    @najadamu2724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I fucking love Uekawa's style

  • @Vailskibum
    @Vailskibum ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Now if only we got Sonic Adventure 3 👀

    • @NotRay1995
      @NotRay1995 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wanting adventure 3 is broke.
      Wanting Rayman 4 is woke

    • @ArcKanosie
      @ArcKanosie ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @NotRay1995
      @NotRay1995 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArcKanosie are you responding to me or the comment

    • @videogameguy101
      @videogameguy101 ปีที่แล้ว

      VAIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLL

    • @MugiwaraNoRandom
      @MugiwaraNoRandom ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayo what

  • @Sydney_Angelyt
    @Sydney_Angelyt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:02 if we're counting fangames, SRB2 is a good contender

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, not really... while it DOES have pinball mechanics, the momentum physics themselves are relatively lackluster...
      - Controls too slippery for 3D.
      - Inability to run over walls or ceilings.
      - Airspeed too high, no air resistance whatsoever.
      And... while the level design in SRB2 CAN complement the engine, it doesn't have many of the things that Sonic used to have... what really turns me down, is the lack of Loop-De-Loops in the game.

    • @Sydney_Angelyt
      @Sydney_Angelyt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eldoofus controls being slippery are what makes it so fun with the speed you can get. not only that, it has the classic sonic gameplay for all characters. Ie: no treasure hunting or stealth added in.
      The only loops adventure had was automated.
      It keeps the classic designs and storytelling.
      All in all, it's way more faithful than the adventure games

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sydney_Angelyt As far as physics goes, it's not really one-to-one with the Classics, it does get some stuff right, but it's not much more faithful than Adventure1 in THAT regard (Sonic Adventure wasn't even trying to be too faithful)

    • @Sing_LoveWRS
      @Sing_LoveWRS ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eldoofus literally all of that is being overhauled in 2.3

  • @GTCrunch
    @GTCrunch ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for sharing the Dreamcast version. Needs more love compared to its sister port.

  • @FBSpark
    @FBSpark ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for reminding me to get EmuVR set up

  • @Sydney_Angelyt
    @Sydney_Angelyt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    under 20K subs? That's a shocker

  • @AngryGrape1337
    @AngryGrape1337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for the long awaited 3rd game in the series...
    Big Nukem 3D.

  • @matt4392_
    @matt4392_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Way past cool

  • @rascal3554
    @rascal3554 ปีที่แล้ว

    My buddy never fails us!

  • @GHShuffle
    @GHShuffle ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Sick video man. I'm of the opinion that SA1 is better than SA2 and doing a solid job of carrying on the elements of the classic game.
    I do feel that the lack of a saturn game hurt Sonic a lot as well by creating a new flavor of sonic with a new generation of drinkers. Classic is like Dr Phibb and Adventure was like Dr Thunder or some shit. Similar but completely different armies that would murder the other in cold blood.
    Amy as a concept was the most appealing to me but the history of the development of this game explains why Amy and Tails and Gamma just got rehashed remixed stages instead of new content that explicitly leverages their gameplay mechanics in the best way possible lol.
    The game was really made for Sonic and your comment about him getting the most love rings true. Good video overall!
    Now that you've gotten the appetizer out of the way, when you gonna move on to the main course? SONIC SHUFFLE. If you do, be sure to hit me up I'm yo nigga for that game.

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you enjoyed the video!
      Also Sonic Shuffle 🤣 The forgotten masterpiece. I'll need some time to do that game justice. Months. Years. Even centuries.

    • @GHShuffle
      @GHShuffle ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kirotalksyt Let me in those DMs and you'll only need a few hours brother. You have know clue how much i learned about this game.

  • @dylanwoods5944
    @dylanwoods5944 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, loved your sense of humour. Speaking of reviving a dying franchise what are your thoughts on Frontiers?

  • @kiwithepenguin2462
    @kiwithepenguin2462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “They added big to be relaxing” me when a big fish bites 💪😡🤯

  • @Ithinkimaninkyfanidk
    @Ithinkimaninkyfanidk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    :P Idk what to say but good vid :P

  • @omnipotentowlproductions
    @omnipotentowlproductions ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sonic isn’t a dying franchise, millions of people still love it

    • @Gmodfan750
      @Gmodfan750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bet you didn't watch the video.

    • @omnipotentowlproductions
      @omnipotentowlproductions ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Gmodfan750 I did, did you?

    • @Gmodfan750
      @Gmodfan750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@omnipotentowlproductions Yes i did.

    • @thomashaugh8720
      @thomashaugh8720 ปีที่แล้ว

      Breath of the wild moved switches sonic hasn’t had that power since the genesis I would equate sonic games to gold fish snack food buy it for toddlers sing it’s praises but personally snub your nose at it… that being said sonic is a great character I would love for “his” gameplay to be more in the sense that his games are more creative polished and I’m optimistic about frontiers I just hope that the soundtrack doesn’t include shitty vocals for the music and more specifically no singing generations was good but at times boring hence why I say creative and polished… but anyway…

    • @unkownuser3851
      @unkownuser3851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomashaugh8720 Sonic Adventure 2 got pretty close with the GameCube, which was considered a dying console at a time too. I get that some of the Sonic games are a bit on the rudimentary side. But there's definitely more "advanced" aspects than what you're expressing. The early 3d games and some of the later titles exemplify this really well. Also... I don't get the comparison with breath of the wild... Just because a video game franchise doesn't move units or save consoles, doesn't make it any less valuable.

  • @modernsonicthehedgehog1998
    @modernsonicthehedgehog1998 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cool

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I thought we were done with the "Sonic is dead/dying" myth.
    What about the 2nd movie breaking records? Or everyone at the edge of their seats for Sonic Prime and Sonic Frontiers? The big boy release?

    • @wavedotwav
      @wavedotwav ปีที่แล้ว +7

      did u watch the video? its about how sonic was dying in the 90s and revived by adventure

    • @wreday720
      @wreday720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch the goddamn video first, he's saying it was dying in the 90s and Adventure brought it back

  • @sebygz
    @sebygz ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU.ARE.THE.BEST

  • @OfficialJuniperStars
    @OfficialJuniperStars ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Noice

  • @lilylyons961
    @lilylyons961 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:21 They got snapped twice again, in 2010 and 2020.

  • @themissingbits6375
    @themissingbits6375 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sure was a Sonic Adventure

  • @DrakeMystical
    @DrakeMystical ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:12 not in the Japanese version

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I can't make too many comments about the Japanese voice acting, but it seems solid.

  • @Peter-vk6hx
    @Peter-vk6hx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey Kiro talks👋can You later make a Sonic adventure 2 vid and really good Sonic adventure vid

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure I'll get around to SA2 one of these days, sure~

    • @Peter-vk6hx
      @Peter-vk6hx ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks

  • @moonheartdebates7681
    @moonheartdebates7681 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's not weird to me how the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise is in the 30s while Sonic as a character is still 15 and no there aren't contacts, his eyes are actually green just like everyone else has they're own eye color. It's just the way things are now and I don't mind it actually like modern Sonic, unlike a lot of people I have a connection to modern Sonic since I grew up in this era. I was born in the 2000s so I didn't grow up with classic Sonic, I still like Classic Sonic but I have a connection to the modern son and, no one's going to stop me from telling everyone how I feel!!!

  • @thatguyinaldi9056
    @thatguyinaldi9056 ปีที่แล้ว

    The title had literally nothing to do with the actual video but I enjoyed it anyway

  • @littenfire3563
    @littenfire3563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss Uekawa Sonic style so bad

  • @BDSFormula1
    @BDSFormula1 ปีที่แล้ว

    tails gets new va for each game

  • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
    @crashban4t.f.s.b783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes they put rock and then in Adventure 2 you can’t hear anyone talk. The music is so loud!!!!

  • @sonicthehedgehog8638
    @sonicthehedgehog8638 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can disagree if you want
    but I think that the other gameplay styles isn't bad or boring
    It's just that sonic is way too fun
    and I would argue that highly praised games like
    Mario 64 would feel the same
    (Kinda boring vibe of the other playable characters in SA1) if it was implemented like them
    Because again it's sonic being too fun
    Not the extra characters being bad
    And honestly as I mastered playing sonic
    (Using the slopes and the spin-dash)
    Tails and knuckles who I really enjoyed looked so boring that I no longer play
    and now all my new save files of the games are 100% sonic and 0% for the rest of the playable cast.

  • @Mamin9k
    @Mamin9k ปีที่แล้ว

    2:45 where that from?

  • @giggymuun
    @giggymuun ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought you’d say Sonic Rush.

  • @Faisalthefist
    @Faisalthefist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic is good

  • @PlushStarry
    @PlushStarry ปีที่แล้ว

    2:53 What’s That Song name?

  • @idkwhattonameitsothisisthe3787
    @idkwhattonameitsothisisthe3787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the Name of that weird game room?

  • @thesonicnugget6697
    @thesonicnugget6697 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch him do all Main line sonic games sonic the hedgehog Through sonic frontiers lol

  • @Mikeprower
    @Mikeprower ปีที่แล้ว

    Big is your vegetables

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye ปีที่แล้ว

    I do think Sonic adventure most of it has aged pretty well. I think the gameplay for sonic, tails, gamma, and even for knuckles has aged well. I enjoyed playing as Amy back then, but yeah looking back at it it's not as fun. However one thing that still sucked back then that obviously sucks now but yes when the game was new it sucked back then is big the cat. It's a Sonic game I don't want to go fishing for a stupid frog. You can even tell by Sonic's tone of voice that he's losing patience with big the cat when big retrieves froggy from chaos 6.
    What obviously has not a well though of course are the animations from the cutscene and yeah I mean for a lot of it the voice acting isn't very good. There's some parts that they do fine I guess but obviously for a good amount of it yeah not so much.

  • @ThatSneakman
    @ThatSneakman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can tell how many people in the comments haven't actually watched the video.

  • @MadSociety-uy6zg
    @MadSociety-uy6zg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic adventure 1 and 2 is great the story with every character is great except big the cat story and gameplay was the most hated.

  • @SHADOWZ6712
    @SHADOWZ6712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ayo 3:50

  • @tabbywarrior
    @tabbywarrior ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's not dying, I mean a lot of my friends loved Sonic Forces and felt it was finally a return to the Generations formula that we all needed. I'm not necessary agreeing with them but it certainly isn't dying, just stagnated for a bit.

    • @bobtheball5384
      @bobtheball5384 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Are your friends okay bro? 😭

    • @charicole105
      @charicole105 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sonic may have "returned" to formula with Forces, but it was a watered down, uninteresting, and poorly made replica of the formula.

    • @tabbywarrior
      @tabbywarrior ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobtheball5384 my friends are perfectly fine. They just happen to like a game that you don't.

    • @tabbywarrior
      @tabbywarrior ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charicole105 my only qualm with Forces was its length and acceleration physics, I didn't really see any other problems with it.

  • @fyb3rotik
    @fyb3rotik ปีที่แล้ว

    Really threw me off with this era of sonic lol. I thought it was gonna be about what’s going on now

  • @BlueBlur_37
    @BlueBlur_37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Title is hella deceptive bro

  • @whobz
    @whobz ปีที่แล้ว

    Pls make a video about smash bros

  • @kerfufflenubs3785
    @kerfufflenubs3785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    who told you it was a dead franchise lmaooooo

    • @xspranp7649
      @xspranp7649 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you even watch the video?

  • @videogameguy101
    @videogameguy101 ปีที่แล้ว

    People said the franchise was dying way back in ‘03.
    Sonic will live forever; kids have a different view of the games than the critics and god-awful shitty ass fanbase have.

  • @RoronoraZoro666
    @RoronoraZoro666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Umm 3:51

  • @rmcoutinho
    @rmcoutinho ปีที่แล้ว

    Hm

  • @mrmeep638
    @mrmeep638 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi kiro if you friended back rooms man 222 please come on Roblox something happened (read comite)

    • @mrmeep638
      @mrmeep638 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And I will be on in 30Mins if u go on

  • @someguyiguess5031
    @someguyiguess5031 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That desperate for clicks, huh?

  • @FishDaGamer
    @FishDaGamer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    pin me for no reason

  • @Waterypeanutbutter
    @Waterypeanutbutter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate the adventure games 💀

    • @flyforce16
      @flyforce16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thou must repent