How Much Is a Game Worth?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2023
- Today I wanted to talk about a game's worth.
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Lesson 1 about game prices. Don't judge the price for its length. Judge it for its quality. And even then, full price is now a bit too much for games
Overwatch 2 is indeed worth 0$ lmao
death blossom moment
I agree 100% as an overwatch 2 player
Play of the game
Too expensive
Too much
11:10 retro games are in a massive bubble right now because of (basically) fraudulent game appraisals and market manipulation by auction houses and appraisal companies. Karl Jobst has a few very thorough videos about it on his channel
It was bubbling before that bs.
Retro games have always been overpriced, 2015 me gave up on physical when path of radiance was 500$+, also turns out my gamecube died last year so remember to go digital for your games people, your old console will break down soon
@@thechugg4372 Or just do what I do, and own 4 Gamecubes.
@@goatbone actually it really wasn't. WATA Games and Heritage Auctions used a lot of market manipulation tactics to make the prices skyrocket extremely high. Prices had gone up to some extent before then, but once these two companies got involved the increase was like a thousand percent compared to what it was before.
Also, when that bubble bursts, it will damage accessibility even further, as people won't want to distribute their copies anymore. In either case though, piracy of these games will continue to happen, possibly even in greater levels, especially since more people are migrating to playing on PC rather than console. Most notably, people are opting to pirate Nintendo games over paying for a service that harms the consumer now. like, who should even pay to play a copy of OOT for $60 a year and need an internet connection to do so, when you could just take a copy online, run it in a community made remaster, and enjoy it better on there?
In Japan the prices are still all over the place, Pokemon costs 6000 yen while the MW2 reboot costs 10000 yen
I remember Bad Influence (UK games show) had a segment on "Are console games overpriced" and the answer was YES, they broke it down into how much manufacturing cartridges cost, how much cut the retailer should get, advertising, etc. Anyway, I don't think I've bought a full price game in YEARS. Last was probably some COD on Xbox 360. I mean other than multiplayer-focused games, most AAA games get at least a 50% discount after around 7 months on average.
Also games in the UK were £39.99 new for Mega Drive/Snes/PlayStation, then the N64 made new games £59.99, except games that came with the rumble pak, which cost £69.99, then PlayStation "Platinum" range came out for £19.99 each.
That's why I wait for physical games to go on sale for more reasonable prices
The older I get the harder it is to keep video gaming as a hobby
Honestly with how bad physical has been getting. I had to give up collecting on the ds entirely because its impossibly expensive. Luckily it seems that the average ps2 game is still dirt cheap. So now I'm all in on that console.
@@Sinistar1983 Like wise. The Pawn Shop I go too, sells all PS2 games at a flat 5 dollars. My PS2 collection has rocketed ever since.
The standard of new video games is $70 unless it’s Ubisoft then the standard is a Poptart and a Juice Box
I just got Immortal Fenyx Rising and it was 10 bucks at gamestop
I will never pay 70 for a game. Ever.
Don’t forget EA and Activision games are worth my belly button lint.
@@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels I wish you were wrong. So many Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero memories. (I even preferred Neversoft more than Harmonix in the latter case)
I had been so used to games being $50 back in the 2000's since I played on the Wii and didn't get a PS3 or 360. I guess as the result of change felt more natural to me.
I grew up in the 90s but I honestly had no idea the cost of games back then because it was always my mom buying them. It's crazy to think that the prices were not a fixed amount back then
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Agree
Thanks for showing the variety of game prices across the years. I was more knowledgeable about the $30-$35-$40 transition of Nintendo handheld games from the GB/GBC/GBA to DS to 3DS, respectively, but I wasn't overly familiar with console game pricing before the Gamecube/Xbox/PS2 generation.
Such an amazing video with such a simple answer to the question.
This was randomly recommended to me today. This was a great watch! You got a new subscriber
found your channel randomly through my recommended feed, keep up the good content
In my opinion. No game is worth over $40. It really doesn’t make sense to pay damn-near $100 for entertainment
The cut off is at 50 euros for me, half a hundred sounds about right. But I'm also buying 95% of my games second hand or after price drop to 20/15 euros
Haven't bought a 60 dollar game since smash bros for wiiU came out.
Can't fuck with no 70$ digital copy. Guess it's true that the 90s really *was* the greatest decade of all time.
Video games were significantly more expensive in the 90's. Accounting for inflation a 60 dollar game in the 90's was well over a hundered dollars in today's money.
Only found your channel recently but really loving the content, Keep it up!
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I still have the sticker on my Super Mario Strikers for GameCube. I bought that back in 2007 for $54.99
Strikers 1 was really good... But 60 dollars good? Idk... Should've waited for strikers 2..
@@shyguy85 I rented 2 from Blockbuster and hated it
Great video as always Kiro!
Thank ya kindly.
4:09 upside down disk
20€ is pretty much my limit.
Comparing game prices to food prices feels wrong
Exactly. Video games are NOT a necessity. This feels like first world problems
That's kind of the point though? He ends the segment by saying that it doesn't always make sense to measure a thing's value by how long it takes to consume it. The burger was an example of when it doesn't make sense to measure value that way
@@cemmy410 I know, but food has it's own value when it comes to things like it's taste, nutrition, origin, etc. So comparing the two with each other feels kinda strange.
Also, you need food to survive.
@@dotdotmodYou don't need an 8$ burger from a fast food chain to survive, eating out is as much of a necessity as watching a movie.
@@Cainenghis Yeah, I guess you have a point.
What this video tells me is buying a game digitally should be cheaper than the physical version
That's why it makes sense to boycott 80€ games like Forspoken on Steam, not like it's worth even half for this particular title tho
1:27 that’s with an SNES mouse included
my favorite part was the $10 movie ticket i’d love to find those
What I've gathered is that it comes down to supply and demand. Can you get it digitally? Is it widespread on all consoles?
It's why retro games CIB can go for outrageous prices depending on the game. It comes down to collecting VS just playing?
I'm super glossing over but yeah.
Standard price should Always be low, because not everyone is flowing with cash.
Using that logic I should be able to buy a mansion because right now I am not flowing with cash.
@@user-in8qh3zf9d. You know that this isn't what I meant! But suppliers have to know not everyone is swimming in cash.
Of course short games are easier to replay, and some times truely become more fun the more you play them. A game like Mario Odyssey was an absolute blast, but I'm also not super inclined to replay it, because it is so long and the element of discovery is some what lost after you've already seen everything.
They should be worth LESS. Sure, costs of development have raised, but games are no longer selling to a couple million weirdos. Theyre selling hundreds of millions of copies, before even considering the predatory monetization basically any "AAA" game costs. Plus, most of the ludicrous profits don't even go back to feed devs, it goes back to the fat leeches at the top.
ori and the will of the wisps cost me R$120 on release, which technically is the right price when converted but it has the same purchasing power as about $90-$100
games prices suck outside the US unfortunately :/
lol i grew up with a copy of super mario land thats missing the top half of the cartridge. the board is visible and missing a capacitor but it still runs
Your final assessment on the price was most accurate of reality
The price is based on 2 factors supply(how much are available)& more importantly demand(how much a person would be willing to pay for it)
The cost of manufacture has drastically dropped for most titles apart form triple A games that need to have higher prices to off set the cost of production
Where as Indy games have much larger accessibility opportunity’s through platforms like steam & even epic to a smaller extent allowing for more diverse price ranging
If and Indy title is not selling well simply dropping the price even a small percentage can get the costs up a massive amount & this actually happen quite often on steam
I’ve got a sealed copy of Emerald for GBA that I bought in like 2017 or 2018(I can’t quite recall which year but it was around that time)that I payed 300 bucks for
The price of a sealed copy especially a appraised copy with a coffin case of a sealed Emerald is astronomical now(easily in the thousands)
& I’m prop not even gonna sell it however if I ever do it will have to be at a point or price that is not to much for a person to be willing to pay even if it’s value is much higher based on the limited supply
Hence demand being far more important then supply
I remember when back in the day when stores like EBGames (Australian Gamestop) mark up their games and sell them for $100 AUD ($66.59 USD) each, rarely had games on sales and couldn't price match with other store, which was insane. Now all thats change for the better
I remember the origingal Phantasy Star on the Master System costing $79.99 when it first came out...and you def got your money's worth out of it contentwise.
I got SMB1 for $10 at a local mall last year.
I always judge any video game as £1 per hour of enjoyable play. I use that same metric for deciding if I should continue paying for subscriptions etc also
Main question: how can a physical copy cost exactly the same as digital?
Idk if you count taxes but here in France the new price is 80€ on current gen consoles even tho you can find them for less day 1 at supermarkets
Americans: Ugh, I can’t believe I have to pay $70 for a brand new game!
Canadians: You have no idea of the suffering we go through.
If its a couple of dollars and its on like Mac or something (since I bring my macbook with me everywhere and rearly touch the PC anymore) I might buy it digitaly. BUT if its like 10+ $ Im always gonna look for a physical release on PS or Nintendo. I just want to have the game in my hands at least. if it makes any sense
5:14 jokes on you im watching this via a mythical orb i found in the woods
What about Dreamcast games? They were $19.99 at retail.
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What is the name of the game shown at 5:46?
As a guy from brazil, i think 60 dollars is really cheap
So the real reason that the Genesis version of Hangtime cost that much is because it had to come on a large 32 megabit cartridge which cost more money to manufacture, where the PS1 version came on a CD which is much cheaper to produce and allowed for the lower profit margin.
So you’re telling me that street fighter 2 was an equivalent of $161 today? That’s insane
Wouldn't mind the $70 if we get more complete games at launch, but I know that won't happen
If a game slaps I buy their soundtrack dlc or something. Generally if I've had an hour of genuine enjoyment I want to be spending £1. Key words are genuine enjoyment, I bought MWII last year and played the £100 game (I was an idiot and got the vault ED) for 220+ hours. The game is absolutely miserable and If I could I'd have played the free modes instead. On the contrary I've played 200 hours of Bloons TD 6 which I got on sale for about £2. I've since bought the double cash mode for £14 and the soundtrack for around 5. I'd say that's good going considering it's one of my favourites!
What's the game at 6:15 called?
This is why we always see the phrase "vote with your wallet". Because only you know what good value is. As a paying customer it's your responsibility to decide which games you want to buy. Whether you pay full price or wait for a discount. Buy a physical copy or a digital copy. The industry needs to maintain that flexibility of choice.
Well that was fun
@@kirotalks. you know TH-cam can show me if you’re him or not right ?
I mean Nintendo games.prices don't drop, them being replayable or not, a Zelda isn't more replayable than a GTA or RDR nor they are more popular, yet Rockstar's games are often on sales
Imagen finding a cib turtles in time today for only 65 dollars XD
7:26 Omori only costs 25 Dollars and has the same ammount of playtime
im gonna be honest I've never paid full price for any triple A release recently
I think the only reason a physical copy of SMB1 is so much is because it’s old and it’s a novelty item, since you can just pay $20 a year to play it, plus more
The fact that most 3ds games are amazing and were sold for 20 dollars, while the switch games come out half baked and cost 60-70 dollars is terrible
I'm surprised you talked about cartridge production prices without mentioning the Neo-Geo! Absolutely massive cartridges bigger than VHS tapes for an arcade-accurate experience! Retailed at $200. And that's 90's dollars. For arcade games with short playtimes.
Then they kinda fixed it with the Neo-Geo CD afterwards. Arcade games at home for an actually normal price... and the world's longest loading times! For, again, short pickup-and-play arcade games. Ugh, what a shame.
1:20 EA charged more for an annual sports game than Nintendo did for Zelda, lmao. Seems in character.
I will never pay $70 for a video game unless it's some rare treasure from the past. These people aint gettin my money. Most games go down to $30 in the first year anyway
Thank you for telling us that a burger costs $48
I’m willing to pay $60 for most triple A games… if they work. Lately I’ve waited up to a month to buy a game, just to make sure what I’m paying $60 for isn’t secretly still in beta. Lol
I hate the fact that 70 is the new standard because in Canada they cost 90 now
90 CAD is only about 65 usd so your getting a discount
80 cad was already ridiculous
6:16 unless it's a switch game.
Thank God Nintendo isn’t changing their prices.
Well, Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom is going to cost $70.00...
Well, it's collage grads punching out games in 6 years, and company's punching out games in 1 year. Or half.
Nice gloves
Well to tell you the truth, I didn’t want to spend over 300 on an authentic Mega Man X3 Cartridge but I guess it’s worth it’s price so here we are
4:05 does the Xbox actually take discs that way?
the gameboy advance cartridges never cost more than 30 dollars apiece. it was only ever the consoles that were super expensive in the old era. the games only became 60 dollars in the xbox era.
I have a belief that if a game is no longer being sold, it loses all monetary value for the data. I also think after like 10-15 years, a game has lost all need to make money, the device it's made for is likely no longer being touched, and if the game has failed to pay back minimum expectations, it was just not meant to be.
Like, take for example mega man 1, that game is older than most people alive now, and grabbing the original run version is pretty much impossible legitimately, it only makes sense that it should be made free, especially since the creators of the game probably aren't making any money off the game anymore.
I of course will always give the indie studios a lot of slack here, it's painful to get that game off the ground, and so long as you have it available to obtain legitimately, I'll gladly buy it over pirating it.
I don’t think most games nowadays are worth full price since a lot of games are broken and buggy, I normally just wait 3 year to play them so they can be fixed. I had a year old game that turned out to be broken and had to wait another year. So I just wait 3 years now.
Yeah thats cool and everything but... why does "baba files taxes" exist😂?
We need to talk video about exchange rates across countries, because I'm tired of hearing Americans complaining about a game that cost them 70usd when it costs me 110nzd
Retro games wouldnt cost so much nowadays if people werent paying those ridiculous prices. It's that simple unfortunately.
Terraria is 10€/$ and that is a perfect cost for a big game.
There's one thing for sure. No game from Ubisoft, EA or Activision is worth 70 bucks.
There're a bunch of old games that're way overpriced for its value. I suppose it's priced based on its rarity, valued for collector's items.
But if it's for the gameplay, it's best to just move on, because it may not be as good as you remember it to be.
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I'm never buying a game over 60, I will rather wait for the discount and get it under 60 and avoid spoilers than accepting the ever increasing greedy shit
meanwhile, every single call of duty game, no matter how old, is still $60 fucking dollars on the Xbox store.
naah i aint paying $70 for a digital game LMFAOOO
No views but 2 likes?
Likes are updated in real time, views aren't, since TH-cam wants to make sure views are by humans, not bots.
@@lmcgregorukHow do they determine weather or not the view is a human or a bot?
TL;DW he doesn't know
if i buy a game for $60 i want it to be ATLEAST 60 hours long
Quality over quantity. Quality 10 hours over 60 hour grind fest.
@@hazelcrisp its called REPLAY VALUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t mind the 70 dollar price point if it’s a game I’m interested in or a series/publisher I like if it’s somebody like EA or Ubisoft I usually wait for a sale.
EA Ubisoft Activision SONY Square Enix
You realise joycons are the price they are because of all the extra tech in them right?
My opinion on game prices?
Honestly, I'm one of the only people who actually doesn't mind a $60 game. I guess it's because I don't care about my money anyway, but I think $60 isn't exactly *too* expensive.
But any $70 dollar game is definitely overpriced for certain.
That's purely subjective tho, how is 60 fine but not 70 ? How could you appreciate a price that accurately if not conditioned by the $60 price during all those years ?
What's your profession? For some reason i feel youre not workin for minimum wage or even near that lol
No game is worth $60 let alone $70. Inflation didn't just affect game prices but salaries as well. Also most games release unfinished with a bunch of DLCs and season passes making the base game even more worthless. Just wait for the complete edition to go on sale.
Edit: I mean this especially for digital games, I'm willing to pay a bit more for physical since those can never become as cheap as a code and they also look nice on a shelf and can be resold. But for digital $40 is the max I'd find acceptable.
It's worth 0.000001$
2 shillings
Boxes aren’t games.
world of warcraft litteraly costs hundreds of euros
That reskin mw2 absolutely isn’t worth $70. It’s just a shameless cashgrab. Then again what els do we expect of those filth types. But the ones that really are to blame are the absolute idiots still buying that crap.
Quality over quantity.
Call of duty sure as hell isn’t quality no more. It’s just a polished turd but still a turd
I am one who will say games like God Of War Ragnarök and the Deadspace remake earn their 70 dollar price points lol they're so damn good
Idk about fifa 23
SONY interactive films are worth $20, that's the price for a movie, and remakes are about the same since a big part of the job (story, Artistic direction etc, game design etc) have already been done
Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Stupid people and stupid prizes lol... Over 500 on a Graphics card? to play how many games?
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40bucks all dlc max other wise a game should be 20to30 bucks that's what I've always spent minus a few exceptions here and there like while nintendo games may not be 40 hours long but they're normally really fun to play again and again with or without friends and most games that accomplish the nintendo style fun for replay in my experience are almost always indies priced at 25 or less mean while most triple a titles are good for one playthrough except for like action style rpgs with real customization in how you play or what order you do things but boring rpgs like final fantasy for instance boring turn based gameplay no unique builds or order in which you can beat the game are definitely not worth more then 5bucks to me
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