I'm sorry but 600 euros on a fake is kinda ridiculous, just buy a good real watch for that money and call it a day, you can fidn so many Seiko, Citizan and even Tissot models for that money.
Interesting stuff, Alix. Thanks for posting. Exactly how does the fake watch industry function? Where do they actually produce these things? In some nondescript warehouse on the wrong side of town? Silly questions, but I'm new to all this and it just blows my mind that this goes on. I suppose it has for many decades, or longer.
It is just amazing how the fake industry has grown. Like you, I don't understand people who buy fakes. They can just buy a very good real Seiko for much less.
Here's your answer: the only watch brand most non watch people know is Rolex. The non watch people who buy fakes care only for that brand recognition. Then don't care even if it's quartz. NH35 or Miyota is a bonus. Most people can't tell a clone and real one apart. A decent clone that copies the movement most watch makers can't tell apart. I don't really buy fakes but I can't understand people who buy an outdated piece of machinery for thousands of dollars which most people think only costs hundreds at most.
@TalkingTimepieces I agree but some watch enthusiasts think a homage is basically a tick above a replica. great topic of debate though. great content as always
@TalkingTimepieces agreed. I have several pro diver's. I jus like the 5 didget subby's and the pro diver's are basically those. very comfy, and I can basically jus wear 'em and create memories. I love tudor but to me it makes no sense to pay 5k for a rollie homage when I can get one for 80 bucks
@TalkingTimepieces I'm not defending anything; I'm being critical of your expertise. I wouldn't be seen dead in a Rolex - real or fake. That said, given that you have to sit on a wait list, with no guarantees of getting anything, I have zero issues with Rolex super clones.
@@kaczynski2333 I would say that the better reaction would be to buy a Hamilton, Longines, Omega, Seiko, Baltany, or any other watch with its own heritage
@TalkingTimepieces given that a significant percentage of Rolex consumers are *only* purchasing the watch because of the brand, I submit your statement reflects a fundamental failure of understanding of psychology.
Honestly, I have a replica. I was going to buy a real one but the stupid Rolex system makes it impossible. They let you look at the watches, give you nice marketing material m… but you can’t buy. Screw them.
What you're reviewing is not the1:1 super clone. I've seen some with 3235 movement fully decorated and interchangeable parts. You will need a x30 magnification only to see that the finishing it's not as smooth as the original. We the naked eye you wouldn't be able to see anything. As for exterior they use 904l steel, Sapphire crystal and anything else as the original the only thing they won't replicate( obviously) is the white gold bezels.
@@aldolirosi7658 they are wrong, arrogant, and unjustified to a large degree, but they are the epitome of truth. The Germans have a saying, "was kostet die welt spielt keine rolle", that roughly translates to "what costs the world doesn't play any roles". Luxury and premium products are very open and honest about what they are. I railed against JLC's recent significant price increase, but the answer is to buy a Fredrique Constant, not a fake.
For informational purposes only, that is not a high-end fake. The Skydwellers with the fixed August month can be had all day for $60-70usd on an international Chinese selling app. There are no "1:1" fakes of the Skydweller because they can't duplicate the movement. The most expensive ones have an adjustable month for $300-500usd. Waste of money.
@@TalkingTimepieces me personally, i would only buy timepieces as an investment or „money-parking“ so-to-speak. You have to consider that wearing and scratching something for 500 USD hurts way less than something for 30k USD. Thats just my view. Sure, it‘s definitely brand theft, and lying to yourself/others is absolutely dumb. You have to be honest about it being a replica. you are right. But I also understand the people that want a Rolex without worrying about scratching it or getting robbed. Plus, you can experience any watch you like before buying the real one and don‘t have to wait YEARS for a panda daytona for example. Buy it, wear it, if you think its worth it, get the original if you still want to. In the long run, you can still buy the real deal.
I know ur not like his there a saying fake it to make it No one care what on ur Wrist i thought it was about how it makes you feel or if it's past down from a family member Sentimental Memories. And great times
I'm sorry but 600 euros on a fake is kinda ridiculous, just buy a good real watch for that money and call it a day, you can fidn so many Seiko, Citizan and even Tissot models for that money.
My point exactly! Buy a watch with its own identity
Where can you buy one?
Not the purpose of this video, sorry.
There's people all over Facebook selling them
@garyw1971 good luck with that
Interesting stuff, Alix. Thanks for posting. Exactly how does the fake watch industry function? Where do they actually produce these things? In some nondescript warehouse on the wrong side of town? Silly questions, but I'm new to all this and it just blows my mind that this goes on. I suppose it has for many decades, or longer.
Sadly every luxury product or popular thing gets counterfeited, from handbags to hats
It is just amazing how the fake industry has grown. Like you, I don't understand people who buy fakes. They can just buy a very good real Seiko for much less.
Here's your answer: the only watch brand most non watch people know is Rolex. The non watch people who buy fakes care only for that brand recognition. Then don't care even if it's quartz. NH35 or Miyota is a bonus.
Most people can't tell a clone and real one apart. A decent clone that copies the movement most watch makers can't tell apart.
I don't really buy fakes but I can't understand people who buy an outdated piece of machinery for thousands of dollars which most people think only costs hundreds at most.
jus get an invicta pro diver and call it a day. 60 bucks and you get a decent movement
An homage is always a good choice!
@TalkingTimepieces I agree but some watch enthusiasts think a homage is basically a tick above a replica. great topic of debate though. great content as always
@@ticklove1910 in its worst sense it is, but some homages punch well above their weight
@TalkingTimepieces agreed. I have several pro diver's. I jus like the 5 didget subby's and the pro diver's are basically those. very comfy, and I can basically jus wear 'em and create memories. I love tudor but to me it makes no sense to pay 5k for a rollie homage when I can get one for 80 bucks
The funny part is you didn't identify the most immediately obvious defect.
No, it's not a high quality fake.
A better fake would still be a lie
I also pointed out in the video that people would jump in to defend "better" fakes
@TalkingTimepieces I'm not defending anything; I'm being critical of your expertise. I wouldn't be seen dead in a Rolex - real or fake.
That said, given that you have to sit on a wait list, with no guarantees of getting anything, I have zero issues with Rolex super clones.
@@kaczynski2333 I would say that the better reaction would be to buy a Hamilton, Longines, Omega, Seiko, Baltany, or any other watch with its own heritage
@TalkingTimepieces given that a significant percentage of Rolex consumers are *only* purchasing the watch because of the brand, I submit your statement reflects a fundamental failure of understanding of psychology.
In my experience my Rolex watches are not the best at keeping time and yes I have them serviced
Omega never seem to skip a beat
Omega is the better watch, 'tis true.
Honestly, I have a replica. I was going to buy a real one but the stupid Rolex system makes it impossible. They let you look at the watches, give you nice marketing material m… but you can’t buy. Screw them.
Then get an homage, or buy a different watch with its own identity. It appears you just want the name on the face.
What you're reviewing is not the1:1 super clone.
I've seen some with 3235 movement fully decorated and interchangeable parts. You will need a x30 magnification only to see that the finishing it's not as smooth as the original. We the naked eye you wouldn't be able to see anything. As for exterior they use 904l steel, Sapphire crystal and anything else as the original the only thing they won't replicate( obviously) is the white gold bezels.
Fakes are fakes, amd a better fake is still a lie.
@@TalkingTimepieces insanely priced things are also a lie.
@@aldolirosi7658 they are wrong, arrogant, and unjustified to a large degree, but they are the epitome of truth. The Germans have a saying, "was kostet die welt spielt keine rolle", that roughly translates to "what costs the world doesn't play any roles". Luxury and premium products are very open and honest about what they are. I railed against JLC's recent significant price increase, but the answer is to buy a Fredrique Constant, not a fake.
For informational purposes only, that is not a high-end fake. The Skydwellers with the fixed August month can be had all day for $60-70usd on an international Chinese selling app. There are no "1:1" fakes of the Skydweller because they can't duplicate the movement. The most expensive ones have an adjustable month for $300-500usd. Waste of money.
Fakes are fakes, and not worth it for any money. He did pay 600 for it, though. A waste at any price
The movement is either a Miyota 82xx or a 2813 derivative. There are better fakes available.
True, but a good fake is just a better lie.
@@TalkingTimepieces Agreed. But to call this one a "high quality" fake is also a lie. 🙂
It was when it was new, but you are free to think what you like.
@@TalkingTimepieces 😀😀😀
This exchange is ironic at so many levels.
That SkyDweller is a 70$ fake. If he paid 600€ he got scammed pretty good. Not a clone by any stretch.
A fake is a fake, a better fake woukd still be a lie.
Just let people wear what they want and lie to themselves as much as they want. None of our business. As long as they are happy
Except it is also illegal brand theft, and is bad for the industry. Tolerating fraud foments crime like Timepiece Gentleman
@@TalkingTimepieces me personally, i would only buy timepieces as an investment or „money-parking“ so-to-speak. You have to consider that wearing and scratching something for 500 USD hurts way less than something for 30k USD. Thats just my view.
Sure, it‘s definitely brand theft, and lying to yourself/others is absolutely dumb. You have to be honest about it being a replica. you are right.
But I also understand the people that want a Rolex without worrying about scratching it or getting robbed. Plus, you can experience any watch you like before buying the real one and don‘t have to wait YEARS for a panda daytona for example. Buy it, wear it, if you think its worth it, get the original if you still want to. In the long run, you can still buy the real deal.
I know ur not like his there a saying fake it to make it No one care what on ur Wrist i thought it was about how it makes you feel or if it's past down from a family member Sentimental Memories. And great times
Then wear a watch with its own history
Not even a real one is worth 600
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