@@EzaneeGires You're not kidding! Especially if resolution is 900 or 1080P - with a 6 or 7'' screen, they'd DEFINITELY be able to make a portable PS4 with slightly reduced max resolution - but with screens that size it would be optimal!
it would have been amazing if they made a powerful handheld that was compatible with PS4 and PS5 games and simply used tricks like upscalling and lowering graphics on the device itself to make them run. The Vita was a great device but it lacked developer support. By just going for the PS4-5 game library you remove that problem completely. There is only a few problems with a device like that. What would be the price. How long would the battery last and what happens to those who have all their games on discs.
@@PuroKross I think the spirit of the comment was in the current timeframe with modern specs. I owned a Vita BTW, I loved it. But over time the support for it dropped like crazy. Now it's borderline possible to get PS4 level performance or greater in a handheld and like a commenter above said, to have our existing library available without having to repurchase them would be a game changer
I do love that design. The hidden keyboard and that standard Oculink port really takes the cake. But wow... With all these handhelds popping up, the resulting price wars are finally pushing these down to where they are really appealing. As much as I love my Deck, I'm really starting to think about moving to one of these other handhelds. It's just trying to decide between this, the Ally, or even the new OneXFly. Though the faster RAM on this and OneXfly is a big upside. I would prefer a slightly larger screen, but the keyboard and Oculink port may lock me straight onto this thing.
I have the 6800u version and I absolutely love it! I am playing games I that have been in my backlog forever, since if I'm at my desktop I'm gaming not dinking around.
I love that more and more of these handhelds are coming out. I cant afford one just yet but when I think about what will be available in a year or two...good times.
I would love a slimmer variant without the physical keyboard or maybe use the extra space for a bigger battery. Also Hall effect Sticks should be default in every high end handheld now.
@@shraf2kay Main question is size. Steam deck/ROG Ally too HUGE. Its not a portable gaming. Its just room gaming. U cant place Ally in ur pocket and go to work/nature. U need case or backpack for it. Use at dock-station or most long travel u will have to toilet. Win4 is near PS Vita about size. And this is PORTABLE gaming. Already bough new revision and just wait when it comes to me. :3 And price too. Ally is overprice and more weak than Win4.
@@shraf2kay Nice joke! Excellent joke! 28x11x3,2 Ally against 22x9,2x2,8 Win4. U need to be comedian! :) Sad, but TH-cam blocks links. Just find comparison of sizes Ally vs Win4 at Google. And switch to photos. Ally is little less than Steam deck. 2 cm. Win4 less at 8 cm. Are u sure? Win4 black 7640U 16/512 at Indeigogo was at 700$ price. Ally cheaper? Really? Same price for this HUGE mamoth without touchpads and keyboard? Funny. :D Ally and Steamdeck better than Win4 only for 1 option. Advertising from COLOSSES of our world Valve and ASUS. Ofc all knows about Ally/Deck and want it, but nobody knows about Win4 and dont make acessories. That's all. But chinese star still rising like Xiaomi.
If the DPad really does feel like the Vita's then that's a huge deal for me. The Series X or Xbox "Core" Controller (as they call it) is pretty great, but I never pulled off moves as flawlessly with a DPad as I did with the Vita. (I wish Valve would've used this one. It's decent for things like platformers, but I hate Steam Deck's Dpad for 2D fighting games. It basically makes me avoid a whole genre of games I could be playing.)
Yeah vita's dead was goated, those games of marvel and streetfighterxtekken had some of the most fun I've in those games because of how good the controls were
Damn I just bought the ROG Ally, too. I do like the Ally, but I have been eyeing the GPD Win4 for a while and I knew they were gonna make a 7840U version, but at the time I bought the Ally, I wasn't aware that GPD had actually lowered the prices for their base models. I think the 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD is the same price as the Ally at $699.99, and the 32GB RAM is just a tad higher, which is the one I would wanna get. I love my Ally, but I have one major problem with my Ally that makes me go back and use my Steam Deck: THE D-PAD. I love playing Street Fighter 6, but if I wanna play it handheld, I literally have to whip out the Steam Deck since it's damn near impossible to play fighters with that circle d-pad on the Ally. My favorite style of d-pad is the Playstation d-pads and the Win4 has the Vita-style d-pad, and THAT ALONE would make me be willing to trade in/sell my Ally for/towards a Win4 7840U if I could. The physical keyboard under the sliding screen is also a plus. The d-pad just seems like it'd be awesome for fighters, and I've heard a few reviewers say as much.
While they keyboard is way more useless then youll realize and the gpd is pretty uncomfortable because of how bulky it is, with its small battery and screen that is .5" smaller, the gpd will be the better buy. The 6" screen on the gpd 6800u i felt was too small for a lot of modern games. Heck the steam decks 7" screen sometimes makes it tough for certain games like ffxiv. Half an inch is a lot when your talking screen sizes this small. Compare the switch lite to the full switch to get an idea. Or something like a normal sized iphone or samsung to the plus sized models.
I really like the design, keyboard, and the "PS Vita-esque" design. However, the screen size is too small, and I have been having problems reading small texts in most games in Steam Deck already (7" screen), like Forza Horizon 5. So I will pass.
Oh, I love the design on this one! I really want this, especially with the Occulink connection. I wonder if GPD will release more powerful mobile AMD eGPUs? But for $800+ dollars....I dunno. I'll wait for a sale and maybe if they annouce a new eGPU later down the line. ETA PRIME...think you bring all these 7840 mobile devices and benchmark them side-by-side? Seems like they all run about the same, but surely one of them run better than the rest?
I'm happy with my gpdwin4 6800U, the mouse on the right is great, less a fan of rear triggers that aren't too well placed or aren't big enough. I ordered the G1. I would like to know if it is possible to manually change the usb/thunderbolt connector for the Oculuslink connector? if it's complicated? show it just in case. to know if visually there is a big difference with and without the oculuslink? ( I am French sorry if I express myself badly ^^ )
The external gpu still shows best that it really doesn´t matter what kind of apu they throw in the build in gpu is still by far the limiting factor and will probably be for the foreseeable future. We are just right at the entry level where it is good enough to work ok. Makes you however look forward too the next generation of apu´s.
I feel like this is the most smexy handheld on the market ATM. Pardon me if I missed it but how is the battery? You stated its bigger than the steamdeck so im guessing its pretty good battery life?
not in my opinion, the steam decks battery didn't last that long for steam games compared to GPD win4 (6800U). Steam deck also overheated and the fans were too loud, literally a jet engine loll.
Glad to see they're iterating, but I'm good with my 6800u model. It really is powerful enough for what I'm using it for. Not looking to replace my desktop, just using it to play indies or lower fidelity games (Octopath 2) plus Dolphin, Cemu, and PS2 emulation. That said, if you're on the fence about this form factor, I 10/10 would recommend. The optical mouse and keyboard makes it so versatile and convenient to manage and navigate files or setup. I don't think I could get a handheld without these built in hardware features now. The size is just perfect too
That Gbdwin 4 pro really looks like psp and that's why im interested of that because a while ago I was interested of psp and psvita consoles. Gbd wins looks powerfull too like Aya neos. Handheld videos are best. 🔥🔥
I'm a Forza guy, and one feature of the XBone/Series controllers that I find indispensable, given my gameplay settings, is rumble triggers that let me know when I'm nearing traction limits on throttle and braking in Motorsport and Horizon, so it'd be great to know when these handheld gaming PCs feature rumble triggers (or even basic rumble), if any of them do...
Crazy how the GPD and eGPU Time Spy scores are better than my PC gaming rig - So my GPU is actually a little better but my cpu is older and is only hitting around half the performance of the Ryzen.... But the convenience of a portable device and then being able to dock at home and not have a large PC sitting there is very appealing..
I might be one of the few that wants the OCulink and usb ports to be closer together. maybe merge the ports and and a merged connectors. they would still be seperate connections, just bother connectors in one housing so they can still be use by themselves if needed. that way it would be kinda like a single cable going to both devices. Oh well, guess nothing wrong with using cable sleeves to keep things tidy.
as a owner of gpd win4 i can tell what it needs to improve for next model - design must the same, dont change anything, keep the same dpad❤ - put the finger print sensor in the power buttom - put the trackpad on the keyboard - put bigger frontal speakers now there is more space after removing the finger sensor and the trackpad - a better grip design will be nice - oled screen - rgb light on keyboard would be amazing
I really like these small portable Mini PCs in this form factor, unfortunately this year is a loss for me, currently my mini pc is a zotac magnus en1060k, the 780m gpu chipset the 7840u has this year is comparatively to the 1060 gtx that I have already, looking to go to this form factor to hopefully use as my main desktop, but that may be next year, it just doesn't beat or have anything special to upgrade to just yet, except for the connections, next Rog Ally with AMDs next chip may do it with Zen 5 and 3.5 RDNA may do it for me, just no need to upgrade this year. They really need to come up with compatible docks with connections to make these portables a proper desktop with connections you really require or need.
780M is nowhere near a desktop GTX 1060 6 GB. The dedicated card has 6 GB of GDDR5 192 Bit 8000 Mhz = 192,2 GB/s vs 120GB/s of the LPDDR5X 7500. Those APUs seem a bit pointless outside of handheld systems. Take a look at RTX 4050 mobile, it has literally triple the performance compared to 780U and only uses 35-115 Watts. In fact, 4050 mobile is faster than than 6600M. You probably could buy a gaming laptop for 1/3 of the price of that GPD combo...
@@kmieciu4everWhat? Where are you buying a RTX 4050 gaming laptop for less than $300? The 512gb model of the GPD shown in this video is $840 which is where most decent lower end gaming laptops start in price.
@@kmieciu4everAlso the 780m is roughly equivalent to a laptop GTX 1650 in terms of performance. It sounds like the original commenter above was talking about a mini PC so they might be talking about a mobile GTX 1060 which would perform about the same. Either way the 780m is seriously not far off from a desktop 6gb 1060 in terms of performance most of the time. It's actually surprising how good it is in comparison.
Hey, JohnSmith, if you're wanting a smaller form factor mini PC you can actually get a barebones (needs ssd and ram) minisforum one with a ryzen 9 6900hx and a rx 6600m built in for like $500-$700 normally. It's a solid mini PC.
Been contemplating if I should get this not only for gaming, but for work/business purposes as it's small and great for on the go purposes. You think it's worth it and can handle even music software like fruity loops as an example?
I just ordered one for the same reason I am too much on the go and my desktop is roughly what this thing does and I use Java, blender and game on it no problem. It seems like a no brainer to me
Damn, man. I just bought an Asus ROG Ally, but I already want this. This form factor is SO appealing, as a huge fan of the PSP and PS Vita, and tho it lacks a 120 hz capable screen, I could deal with that. Besides, I can barely tell the difference between 60 and 120 fps anyway. I just don't have that kind of money to spend right now 😅
If it can console you: its screen is also 100 nit less brighter than the one of the ROG Ally, and the RX 7600M XT of its eGPU is actually much less powerfull than the RX 6850M XT of the ROG Ally
@@jpnn80that’s a thunderbolt connection tho, you can hookup any eGPU to it. The significant difference here might be the battery but I don’t think either of these systems can manage a modern game or a high preset emulation for more than 2 hours
theres only one thing i can think of that would help feel better about your desicision on the ally. you WILL have some sort of support if something goes bad. Will it be good support? idk... but in comparison to this thing, at least you can talk to someone... lmao
@@Psychodrummer31 Asus support is terribleand still probably better than GPD so yeah,if you buy through a third party like amazon though it could be alright,or Bestbuy for the Ally
I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but where do you find that live wallpaper shown near the end of the video? The dashboard style one with the charts. Thank you!
Powerful!! imagine these was produced after the PS5 and Xbox APUs ,The Next Mid Gen Refresh Will Be A Boost 4 Sure ,This This Is Keeping Up With Desktop GPUs in the Mid Tier With APU
I heard about a es version of ryzen 8000 that has an igpu with 40 cus coming up!! Thats steonger than a 7700xt intheory!! Igpu crazy and is gonna be wild and and is forfront cuz small form factor (except intel nuc (rip) ) is here to stay for awhile and becoming popular!!
That’s definitely a false rumor, Amd already confirmed that 8000 series with have rdna 3.5 with a super minimal increase of 7% percent or so. We won’t get a big bump till Rdna 4 in 2025
I love the form factor but for me the more interesting part is the supposed support for SteamOS they advertise on their website. You should make a video on this.
I know this is a nitpick and doesn't really matter in the end but still wanted to ask out of curiosity: Why aren't the buttons and joysticks symmetrical? If you look on the right half, the joystick isn't lined up with the buttons above, like most other consoles. The right joystick is also closer to the edge than the left one. I am thinking it may have something to do with it having a sliding screen mechanism.
even though i got ally last month i ordered gpd win4 also :D i always wanted it.. its the psp/vita nostalgia it gives... will be perfect for diablo iv, i just dont like that they removed the usb A port... was perfect to use with a usb stick having batocera etc..
I wonder if they have a Oculink enclosure that can fit a 3090. Get rid of my PC. I play VR games though, I wonder if this paired with a 3090 over Oculink can replace my PC?
this is what SONY should have make, a fully gaming handheld but they go make the remote play handheld 🤦♂️
Would be cool to have a pocket PS4, that's how good these APUs are getting
@@EzaneeGires You're not kidding! Especially if resolution is 900 or 1080P - with a 6 or 7'' screen, they'd DEFINITELY be able to make a portable PS4 with slightly reduced max resolution - but with screens that size it would be optimal!
it would have been amazing if they made a powerful handheld that was compatible with PS4 and PS5 games and simply used tricks like upscalling and lowering graphics on the device itself to make them run. The Vita was a great device but it lacked developer support. By just going for the PS4-5 game library you remove that problem completely. There is only a few problems with a device like that. What would be the price. How long would the battery last and what happens to those who have all their games on discs.
@@EzaneeGires that is literally what a PS Vita is (or was) supposed to be. Nobody wanted one though
@@PuroKross I think the spirit of the comment was in the current timeframe with modern specs. I owned a Vita BTW, I loved it. But over time the support for it dropped like crazy. Now it's borderline possible to get PS4 level performance or greater in a handheld and like a commenter above said, to have our existing library available without having to repurchase them would be a game changer
This one has by far the best design of its kind
It would be nice to see a side by side performance difference between the 2 igpu's from the 2 different models.
It’s barely noticeable. About 10-15%
I was thinking it would be cool to see the difference between the oculink and USB connection from the 7600m xt as well.
He doesn’t compare devices on this channel
agreed
Not much difference
Thanks! Please more videos with eGPU: new cases, new tests etc.
Very interesting topic: eGPU with different devices.
I do love that design. The hidden keyboard and that standard Oculink port really takes the cake. But wow... With all these handhelds popping up, the resulting price wars are finally pushing these down to where they are really appealing. As much as I love my Deck, I'm really starting to think about moving to one of these other handhelds. It's just trying to decide between this, the Ally, or even the new OneXFly. Though the faster RAM on this and OneXfly is a big upside. I would prefer a slightly larger screen, but the keyboard and Oculink port may lock me straight onto this thing.
Occulink is an open standard too, ya can't get an enclosure and add your desktop graphics card :)
Every hour a new handheld is born!
I have the 6800u version and I absolutely love it! I am playing games I that have been in my backlog forever, since if I'm at my desktop I'm gaming not dinking around.
I love that more and more of these handhelds are coming out. I cant afford one just yet but when I think about what will be available in a year or two...good times.
i wonder when we will start seeing foldable handhelds where the screen folds to double the size
This handheld design is so goddamn cool I wish we could get a somewhat bigger model with a bigger screen and a bigger trackpad
And a OLED screen
@@DoubleDragon5180 And a good enough battery, I'd pay top dollar for that
I agree! This would be an instant buy with a bigger screen🔥
how bout bigger screen BUT more pocketable/3DS XL larger from
@@kelvinchewjwyeah no
I would love a slimmer variant without the physical keyboard or maybe use the extra space for a bigger battery. Also Hall effect Sticks should be default in every high end handheld now.
True!
@@shraf2kay Main question is size. Steam deck/ROG Ally too HUGE. Its not a portable gaming. Its just room gaming. U cant place Ally in ur pocket and go to work/nature. U need case or backpack for it. Use at dock-station or most long travel u will have to toilet.
Win4 is near PS Vita about size. And this is PORTABLE gaming. Already bough new revision and just wait when it comes to me. :3
And price too. Ally is overprice and more weak than Win4.
@@shraf2kay Smaller what? Price or size?
@@shraf2kay Nice joke! Excellent joke!
28x11x3,2 Ally
against
22x9,2x2,8 Win4.
U need to be comedian! :)
Sad, but TH-cam blocks links. Just find comparison of sizes Ally vs Win4 at Google. And switch to photos. Ally is little less than Steam deck. 2 cm. Win4 less at 8 cm. Are u sure?
Win4 black 7640U 16/512 at Indeigogo was at 700$ price. Ally cheaper? Really? Same price for this HUGE mamoth without touchpads and keyboard? Funny. :D
Ally and Steamdeck better than Win4 only for 1 option. Advertising from COLOSSES of our world Valve and ASUS. Ofc all knows about Ally/Deck and want it, but nobody knows about Win4 and dont make acessories. That's all. But chinese star still rising like Xiaomi.
@@shraf2kay It's bigger, single USB-C port (even their mobile phone has two USB-C), no hall effect sticks, and the battery is still small.
If the DPad really does feel like the Vita's then that's a huge deal for me. The Series X or Xbox "Core" Controller (as they call it) is pretty great, but I never pulled off moves as flawlessly with a DPad as I did with the Vita.
(I wish Valve would've used this one. It's decent for things like platformers, but I hate Steam Deck's Dpad for 2D fighting games. It basically makes me avoid a whole genre of games I could be playing.)
I'd love a Steam Deck with the portability and keyboard of GPD.
I'm also a vita button enjoyer
Yeah vita's dead was goated, those games of marvel and streetfighterxtekken had some of the most fun I've in those games because of how good the controls were
Would love to see a detailed benchmark with games to see the difference between being hooked up via usb4 vs occulink.
This is by far the best handheld ive seen
I want them to put a variable refresh rate display on on these handhelds. With the lower power they could really use it.
We are really living in the future now, GPD deliver something out of dream.
These new handhelds are coming out like freaking hotcakes jfc
wow, what an incredible look, it looks like a PSP.
Beautiful unlike the other ugly Switches
If you have tasted one 7840u handheld, u have pretty much tasted all the 7840u handheld
Just a matter of form factor, screen specs, and battery capacity being the differences.. and the integrated keypads
7840u handhelds are like women. Although they might all have the same internals, they feel different in the hands, and definitely DON'T taste the same
Damn I just bought the ROG Ally, too. I do like the Ally, but I have been eyeing the GPD Win4 for a while and I knew they were gonna make a 7840U version, but at the time I bought the Ally, I wasn't aware that GPD had actually lowered the prices for their base models. I think the 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD is the same price as the Ally at $699.99, and the 32GB RAM is just a tad higher, which is the one I would wanna get. I love my Ally, but I have one major problem with my Ally that makes me go back and use my Steam Deck: THE D-PAD. I love playing Street Fighter 6, but if I wanna play it handheld, I literally have to whip out the Steam Deck since it's damn near impossible to play fighters with that circle d-pad on the Ally. My favorite style of d-pad is the Playstation d-pads and the Win4 has the Vita-style d-pad, and THAT ALONE would make me be willing to trade in/sell my Ally for/towards a Win4 7840U if I could. The physical keyboard under the sliding screen is also a plus. The d-pad just seems like it'd be awesome for fighters, and I've heard a few reviewers say as much.
Why ROG is better
It would be nice to see an Video with an High End Desktop GPU connected over Oculink and see if it can Handle +120 FPS
I love this design aesthetic so much, it's what the PS vita should've been
Can't wait to see a head to head comparsion between ayaneo air 1s and gpd under the same watt😊
They will be nearly identical....just like they are nearly identical to the 6800u devices.
While they keyboard is way more useless then youll realize and the gpd is pretty uncomfortable because of how bulky it is, with its small battery and screen that is .5" smaller, the gpd will be the better buy. The 6" screen on the gpd 6800u i felt was too small for a lot of modern games. Heck the steam decks 7" screen sometimes makes it tough for certain games like ffxiv. Half an inch is a lot when your talking screen sizes this small. Compare the switch lite to the full switch to get an idea. Or something like a normal sized iphone or samsung to the plus sized models.
12:12 casually explains his setup but omits to mention that THING to the right
That's a speaker iirc
He did a review of that Bluetooth speaker. Better looking than performing but that's the modern age
the best handheld gets even better!!!
Looks like PSP
Exactly like it
That's literally the point. GPD was trying to make it look like a PS Vita.
No waaaayyyy
The big difference is that it is a thicc boy
captain obvious
I need to get my hands on this one ... man it looks so freaking awesome.
Was happy did not buy they other one 😅
long time sub, Love your videos, you cheer me up, with all your new tech man. I wish I could get those connections!!
The best handheld this year.
got my 6800u version this year and don’t regret it.
@@vergodagoat same, buying the refresh would be unnecessary. Unless the new link port is going to be used.
onexfly coming
@@djblackshadow22 emphasis on coming
@@juansalgado6212 USB 4 port is more useful than the oculink port imo, helped greatly when reflashing the OS due to switching out the ssd
Guess we will see how well those oculink ports age. Considering the fact they where designed as internal ports I don't have much hope for them.
Makes me so tempted to upgrade from my 6800U version!
I really like the design, keyboard, and the "PS Vita-esque" design. However, the screen size is too small, and I have been having problems reading small texts in most games in Steam Deck already (7" screen), like Forza Horizon 5. So I will pass.
I love seeing the keyboard.
Oh, I love the design on this one! I really want this, especially with the Occulink connection. I wonder if GPD will release more powerful mobile AMD eGPUs? But for $800+ dollars....I dunno. I'll wait for a sale and maybe if they annouce a new eGPU later down the line. ETA PRIME...think you bring all these 7840 mobile devices and benchmark them side-by-side? Seems like they all run about the same, but surely one of them run better than the rest?
A more powerful eGpu means more power consumption and larger volume. If you don’t care about the volume, you can DIY eGpu yourself
Droix did what you want in recent video comparing many devices.
I'm happy with my gpdwin4 6800U, the mouse on the right is great, less a fan of rear triggers that aren't too well placed or aren't big enough. I ordered the G1. I would like to know if it is possible to manually change the usb/thunderbolt connector for the Oculuslink connector? if it's complicated? show it just in case. to know if visually there is a big difference with and without the oculuslink? ( I am French sorry if I express myself badly ^^ )
Having usb is better than having occulink but no usb
oclink is stronger than usb4, but 80fps and 100fps don't make much difference to me
How long do you have the gpd?
@@impeace1012 march with indigogo
“Stay tuned tomorrow as I’ll feature an even MORE powerful version!”🙄
😂
The external gpu still shows best that it really doesn´t matter what kind of apu they throw in the build in gpu is still by far the limiting factor and will probably be for the foreseeable future. We are just right at the entry level where it is good enough to work ok.
Makes you however look forward too the next generation of apu´s.
I feel like this is the most smexy handheld on the market ATM. Pardon me if I missed it but how is the battery? You stated its bigger than the steamdeck so im guessing its pretty good battery life?
It's only 10% bigger, so the battery life should be almost the same. Steam Deck is very well optimized.
not in my opinion, the steam decks battery didn't last that long for steam games compared to GPD win4 (6800U). Steam deck also overheated and the fans were too loud, literally a jet engine loll.
Glad to see they're iterating, but I'm good with my 6800u model. It really is powerful enough for what I'm using it for. Not looking to replace my desktop, just using it to play indies or lower fidelity games (Octopath 2) plus Dolphin, Cemu, and PS2 emulation.
That said, if you're on the fence about this form factor, I 10/10 would recommend. The optical mouse and keyboard makes it so versatile and convenient to manage and navigate files or setup. I don't think I could get a handheld without these built in hardware features now. The size is just perfect too
That Gbdwin 4 pro really looks like psp and that's why im interested of that because a while ago I was interested of psp and psvita consoles. Gbd wins looks powerfull too like Aya neos. Handheld videos are best. 🔥🔥
As a user of the 6800U version, been satisfied with it so far
Easy to bring in a bag and to work for those lunch breaks
I'm a Forza guy, and one feature of the XBone/Series controllers that I find indispensable, given my gameplay settings, is rumble triggers that let me know when I'm nearing traction limits on throttle and braking in Motorsport and Horizon, so it'd be great to know when these handheld gaming PCs feature rumble triggers (or even basic rumble), if any of them do...
The Ally does rumble, but no trigger rumble.
i love these handheld pcs, I cant justify buying one just yet but man im excited to see what will be out when i can
Crazy how the GPD and eGPU Time Spy scores are better than my PC gaming rig - So my GPU is actually a little better but my cpu is older and is only hitting around half the performance of the Ryzen.... But the convenience of a portable device and then being able to dock at home and not have a large PC sitting there is very appealing..
Looks like someone pulled the trackpad right from my old Blackberry..
I love that desktop background!
It’s the default Windows 11 background 🤦♂️
best computer channel period.
Was looking for its review few hours ago and now u posted this video thanks man
Could you please show us some raytracing tests at 1080p medium/high settings on the G1?
Can't wait for Zen 5 powered handhelds
I have 6800u version very happy with the little touchpad im able to play SWTOR.
I might be one of the few that wants the OCulink and usb ports to be closer together. maybe merge the ports and and a merged connectors. they would still be seperate connections, just bother connectors in one housing so they can still be use by themselves if needed. that way it would be kinda like a single cable going to both devices.
Oh well, guess nothing wrong with using cable sleeves to keep things tidy.
Look's like it's a very interesting device. Test with rtx3080 via OcuLink needed!
as a owner of gpd win4 i can tell what it needs to improve for next model
- design must the same, dont change anything, keep the same dpad❤
- put the finger print sensor in the power buttom
- put the trackpad on the keyboard
- put bigger frontal speakers now there is more space after removing the finger sensor and the trackpad
- a better grip design will be nice
- oled screen
- rgb light on keyboard would be amazing
Cannot wait to get my hands on this. Ill get the G1 later but omg i cant wait
This but with an oled screen and I'm sold
How's the battery life difference with the chip change? Does the drain the battery more?
Supposedly the 7040u chips are slightly more efficient than 6000 series
@@EzaneeGiresthanks
I really like these small portable Mini PCs in this form factor, unfortunately this year is a loss for me, currently my mini pc is a zotac magnus en1060k, the 780m gpu chipset the 7840u has this year is comparatively to the 1060 gtx that I have already, looking to go to this form factor to hopefully use as my main desktop, but that may be next year, it just doesn't beat or have anything special to upgrade to just yet, except for the connections, next Rog Ally with AMDs next chip may do it with Zen 5 and 3.5 RDNA may do it for me, just no need to upgrade this year.
They really need to come up with compatible docks with connections to make these portables a proper desktop with connections you really require or need.
780M is nowhere near a desktop GTX 1060 6 GB. The dedicated card has 6 GB of GDDR5 192 Bit 8000 Mhz = 192,2 GB/s vs 120GB/s of the LPDDR5X 7500.
Those APUs seem a bit pointless outside of handheld systems. Take a look at RTX 4050 mobile, it has literally triple the performance compared to 780U and only uses 35-115 Watts. In fact, 4050 mobile is faster than than 6600M. You probably could buy a gaming laptop for 1/3 of the price of that GPD combo...
@@kmieciu4everWhat? Where are you buying a RTX 4050 gaming laptop for less than $300? The 512gb model of the GPD shown in this video is $840 which is where most decent lower end gaming laptops start in price.
@@kmieciu4everAlso the 780m is roughly equivalent to a laptop GTX 1650 in terms of performance. It sounds like the original commenter above was talking about a mini PC so they might be talking about a mobile GTX 1060 which would perform about the same. Either way the 780m is seriously not far off from a desktop 6gb 1060 in terms of performance most of the time. It's actually surprising how good it is in comparison.
Hey, JohnSmith, if you're wanting a smaller form factor mini PC you can actually get a barebones (needs ssd and ram) minisforum one with a ryzen 9 6900hx and a rx 6600m built in for like $500-$700 normally. It's a solid mini PC.
GPD should also improve to provide better software / overlay compared to the competition, especially like AYANéo
Forreal. Their software suuuuuucks
Sold my ayaneo for this reason, i cant get over how buggy their software overlay was for few months, even with release few fixes
How much better is battery life with the 7640u vs 7840u shown here?
DAMNMIT I SHOULD HAVE WAITEDDDD!!!!
This shits badass gonna cop this later
Amazing! thanks for video!
Prices are a bit ridiculous. I dropped my steam deck and some of my buttons stopped working
GPD really needs to add OLED to their devices.
ARGGGH I love my Steam Deck and my Desktop Ryzen Rig but man it looks nuts being able to have a mobile solution
Me: Sure hope I can afford gas this week.
Eta Prime: Here's another really expensive handheld I just got. 😂
This without the keyboard would be my perfect handheld.
Man that cpu is KILLING it
Been contemplating if I should get this not only for gaming, but for work/business purposes as it's small and great for on the go purposes. You think it's worth it and can handle even music software like fruity loops as an example?
I just ordered one for the same reason I am too much on the go and my desktop is roughly what this thing does and I use Java, blender and game on it no problem. It seems like a no brainer to me
I wish I could have one of this!
The rebirth of the fan favorite psp! With more raw power
How do i know what gpd4 has the oculink if usually they dont describe on amazon or ebay? Is it that all razen 7 7840 have this port?
Damn, man. I just bought an Asus ROG Ally, but I already want this. This form factor is SO appealing, as a huge fan of the PSP and PS Vita, and tho it lacks a 120 hz capable screen, I could deal with that. Besides, I can barely tell the difference between 60 and 120 fps anyway.
I just don't have that kind of money to spend right now 😅
If it can console you: its screen is also 100 nit less brighter than the one of the ROG Ally, and the RX 7600M XT of its eGPU is actually much less powerfull than the RX 6850M XT of the ROG Ally
@@jpnn80that’s a thunderbolt connection tho, you can hookup any eGPU to it. The significant difference here might be the battery but I don’t think either of these systems can manage a modern game or a high preset emulation for more than 2 hours
theres only one thing i can think of that would help feel better about your desicision on the ally. you WILL have some sort of support if something goes bad. Will it be good support? idk... but in comparison to this thing, at least you can talk to someone... lmao
60fps to 120fps depends on the game e.g fighting games. Fir shooters I don't really see a difference
@@Psychodrummer31 Asus support is terribleand still probably better than GPD so yeah,if you buy through a third party like amazon though it could be alright,or Bestbuy for the Ally
imagine the future RDNA's, Damn im so excited. 4k 120hz portable handheld gaming pc SHESH🔥
Fan noise will bring u back to earth quickly
PS Vita and PSP GO had a baby.
I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but where do you find that live wallpaper shown near the end of the video? The dashboard style one with the charts. Thank you!
Wallpaper engine
It's cool but by the time it comes out I'll have forgotten.
This is how you make a handled PC. Not like that impudent identity crisis ALLy
the psp design is just fire
Powerful!! imagine these was produced after the PS5 and Xbox APUs ,The Next Mid Gen Refresh Will Be A Boost 4 Sure ,This This Is Keeping Up With Desktop GPUs in the Mid Tier With APU
This is crazy, it runs like my gtx 3080 at 1440p.......that that thing is huge
Hi, would like to know what desktop background are you using. Look awesome!
Could you add Trail Makers and Teardown to your testing list? Both games will give a good cpu-gpu test as they're physics games. The latter, more so.
When docked, can it drive a 5120x1440 monitor?
Will the WIN4 be able to output 144hz to a portable monitor without the egpu? for AAA gaming? Thanks
I heard about a es version of ryzen 8000 that has an igpu with 40 cus coming up!! Thats steonger than a 7700xt intheory!! Igpu crazy and is gonna be wild and and is forfront cuz small form factor (except intel nuc (rip) ) is here to stay for awhile and becoming popular!!
That’s definitely a false rumor, Amd already confirmed that 8000 series with have rdna 3.5 with a super minimal increase of 7% percent or so. We won’t get a big bump till Rdna 4 in 2025
In your reviews moving forward, can you please do more benchmarking with how it runs LLMs?
I love the form factor but for me the more interesting part is the supposed support for SteamOS they advertise on their website. You should make a video on this.
Finally thing with rx780m and 7500mhz ram
This is literally the best mobile PC you can buy. I wish I had the extra cash to buy one.
TV gaming ready.
i've just preorded one of these with the whopping 64gb of ram and 4tb SDD,
can't wait to play starfield on the bus! XD
I know this is a nitpick and doesn't really matter in the end but still wanted to ask out of curiosity: Why aren't the buttons and joysticks symmetrical? If you look on the right half, the joystick isn't lined up with the buttons above, like most other consoles. The right joystick is also closer to the edge than the left one. I am thinking it may have something to do with it having a sliding screen mechanism.
What software do you use to show all the hardware info/FPS, in the top right corner?
Afterburner
@@blues05 Thank you
Whats the difference between Ryzen 7840u and Z1extreme
IIRC, it's basically the TDP range. Z1 extreme has lower idle, I believe.
The Z1 has some parts of the silicon turned off to save on power
What are you using for animated wallpapers? I’ve seen you have it on windows and Linux and I’d love to set it up on my pc/steamdeck
most likely wallpaper engine
even though i got ally last month i ordered gpd win4 also :D i always wanted it.. its the psp/vita nostalgia it gives... will be perfect for diablo iv, i just dont like that they removed the usb A port... was perfect to use with a usb stick having batocera etc..
ChimeraOS both with and without the Oculink Dock???👀
I wonder if they have a Oculink enclosure that can fit a 3090. Get rid of my PC. I play VR games though, I wonder if this paired with a 3090 over Oculink can replace my PC?
On Amazon you can but the Oculink board and adapter to build one
@@ETAPRIME I'll have to look into that. I don't have a handheld with a Oculink board but that will be on my list when I update my WinMax 2.
you need 1dock egpu or osmeta egpu dock. both got oculink and can use desktop Gc. you need to buy power supply according to your gc requirements.
This thing is nuts